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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's Tuesday at

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty am Central Time, and that means only one thing.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Mix Shots with Mickey Spagnola inside the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studio at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls inside his own SWBC Mortgage studio, and I

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Speaker 1: am at my home as well. And we are one

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Speaker 1: week in two days away from the start of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one National Football League Draft, and lots going

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Speaker 1: on because what I guess is a well, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of sort of virtual off season around the National Football

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Speaker 1: League is underway this week and there's so much to

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Speaker 1: talk to talk about over the next hour here on

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Speaker 1: Mick Shots, Mickey, Everson, how you're doing. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: Nicky first, Mickey, since it's your name on this show.

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Speaker 1: That's a scary proposition. I'm doing her fine. They're the

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Speaker 1: one responsible. Yes, I'm responsible. For us being here right now.

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Speaker 1: Everything's good. It's a beautiful day, and we got activity

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Speaker 1: out on the football field here over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of days. And Everson, how are you doing? I am

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Speaker 1: doing wonderful, so good to be here. By the way, Bill,

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Speaker 1: you were late signing on. So I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the T and yes, every everything here is

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Speaker 1: Spagnola's fault. So I'm want to put those disclaimers out

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Speaker 1: there right now and just let you know, uh, spacts,

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Speaker 1: you actually have a front row seat, don't you to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboy practices to even maybe Dak Prescott's recovery. Have

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Speaker 1: you been watching them out there? They's been practicing. I

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Speaker 1: heard these out there practicing with anybody and anyone that

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Speaker 1: would trying to catch his passes. I've heard you were

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Speaker 1: out there on the end zone one day trying to

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Speaker 1: catch them passes. So have you been checking them out?

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Speaker 1: Have you been checking out his progress or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I know better than go and try to catch his passes.

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Speaker 1: I learned that long time ago in uh A quick

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Speaker 1: story in nineteen ninety three, after Troy Aikman had his

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if they played in Mexico City that year.

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Speaker 1: They played a game that I wasn't covering, and I

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Speaker 1: went out to watch him throw and Babe Laffenberg was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be there to catch for him, and Babe

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Speaker 1: he went out and said, yeah, i'll catch some, and

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Speaker 1: Troy goes on, I don't know you. You need to

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Speaker 1: wear some gloves and the guy goes, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: and I said, ain't no way. I need these hands

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Speaker 1: This poor guy's hands were beat red before Babe got

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Speaker 1: not catching Deak. I haven't seen him throw the football.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him do his rehab work, and he's moving

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Speaker 1: story for you. You know, he used to throw extremely hard.

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Speaker 1: Of course, being at Grambley, he was the first black

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Speaker 1: He calls me all the time. He's a big mouth

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Speaker 1: football went between his two fingers and split the webbing

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Speaker 1: and blood start flying all over the place. And and

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Speaker 1: that should have been That should have been sign enough

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Speaker 1: to consider catching one of his pants. Oh man, So Bill,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been in the way of a Troy Achman

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Speaker 1: of bringing it back to the draft. I think Gil

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Speaker 1: Brandt may say to this day that Troy Aikman had

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Speaker 1: velocity on his footballs, because uh, first one makes your

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Speaker 1: the way, he was so accurate. So practices, you know,

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Speaker 1: background on Gil Grant and being an athlete when he

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Speaker 1: I have not seen any evidence that he played the

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Speaker 1: or I mean anybody, mascot, come on, anything? Better watch

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Speaker 1: your gated of the University of Wisconsin. Right well, I

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Speaker 1: trust Wikipedia, ever Son, you'll love this all right. Gil,

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Speaker 1: a native of Milwaukee, attended North Division High School, where

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Speaker 1: He also lettered in basketball and track. He enrolled at

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Speaker 1: the University of Wisconsin but left after two years. So

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Speaker 1: And he turned into a base that was that was

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Speaker 1: background as a defensive back that led Gilbrandt to signing

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls real Okay, didn't draft him, but signed him

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Speaker 1: be Trey Lance just because of he hasn't had that

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Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan. He's been doing some

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Speaker 1: interviews pre draft stuff, and he said, looking at what's

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Speaker 1: football team and those are words for this team to

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Speaker 1: feeling kind of different about Trey Lance. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: all the years that he was in college. I look,

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Speaker 1: if someone grabs him, they're they're getting a complete athlete,

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Speaker 1: trick plays. I don't think Trey Lance is looking forward

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Speaker 1: then you start looking at fields the way they have

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Speaker 1: So that's the difference between whether Troy Aikman did back

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Speaker 1: that's pretty telling stuff right there. Guys. That's that's just ignored.

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Speaker 1: And we're still on this quarter the bad thing as

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Speaker 1: but get hurt. So I don't know, man, to me,

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Speaker 1: it seems like analytics aren't working in misregard. They're not

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Speaker 1: using it in the same manner as they use it

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Speaker 1: this far as calling the football game. That's just my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I can go a little step further with it. Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton in twenty eleven Panthers went six and ten his

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Speaker 1: Marcus Russell JaMarcus Russell four and twelve. Time Sleep at Times,

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Speaker 1: Sleep at time. So the Dallas and the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: did a little more research. I took you back to

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four on that quarterback. This is your

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00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: and two thousand and four. That was the year Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning was the number one overall pick. Of the San

497
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers traded to the Giants. Philip Rivers was the

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Speaker 1: pick of the Chargers in two thousand and four Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: The Giants went six and ten after making the Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning pick. The Chargers, however, went twelve and four that year,

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Speaker 1: and they drafted Philip Rivers. That's right, there's a big

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00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: difference there. Though Philip Rivers did not play. Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: was the quarterback real Q Goodwin william I like that.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. So so here you go. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about Trey Lance. The best place for Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: might be with a team that's already got a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so that he can learn underneath that quarterback, and then

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00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity that may be the way to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trey Lance might have the most successful any

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks if he goes that way. Case in point,

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00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes placed behind Alex Smith the first year and

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00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: then his lights out when he finally gets an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to play. So basically what you're saying is the Washington's

514
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: will move up and take Trey Lawrence and Trey Lance.

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00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, because they got Ryan Fitzpatrick to man the

516
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: ship in the meantime. Okay, I gotta get this the

517
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins last year. Yeah, I gotta get this off my

518
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: chest here, and I want you guys to figure out

519
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: if my logic is just totally off base. So yesterday

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00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: was the start of the basically offseason workouts, and nineteen

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00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: teams have decided that they don't want to participate in

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00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: the offseason workouts. The Cowboys, on the other hand, for

523
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: these last two days, they've got a morning workout session,

524
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: afternoon workout session. And if I'm just kind of coming

525
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: up with a ballpark figure, they've probably had fifteen guys

526
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: working out in each session. And what's going on now

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00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: in the first phase, Let's be clear, the first phase

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00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: is basically strength and conditioning, all right, just strength and conditioning.

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: What the part we see The guys are out on

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Speaker 1: the field doing They're running exercises, different kind of routines.

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00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: And then if there's any meetings afterwards, those meetings are virtual, right, Well,

532
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: the nfl PA has come out and say they want

533
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: a total, total virtual offseason, just like last year. Okay,

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00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: my question is, how do you do strength and conditioning virtually?

535
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Like are you gonna sit there and they're gonna film

536
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: you while you're doing what the strength and conditioning coach says.

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00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: And they're talking about And they had a pretty lengthy

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00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: media conference yesterday with Demorris Smith and J. C. U. Tetter.

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00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: Tretter the president, the player president for the NFLPA, and

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00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: all they kept saying is, you know, they want the

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00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: players safe in the offseason, this and that. Okay, so

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00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning, If if you're coming into the facility

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: to lift weights and run under their jurisdics and jurisdiction

544
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: of the strength and conditioning coach, you're getting tested every day, right,

545
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: You're you're You're not You're You're not just coming in

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00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: and being around a bunch of people that you may

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00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: end up getting infected. Right, So if if, if, if

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00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: that's not the safest environment to do your strength and conditioning,

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00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: what is And if you're doing on your own, where

550
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: are you working out? Because not everybody has a home gym, right,

551
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: and not everybody's gonna run is hard as you do

552
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: when you got fifteen guys along with you, So to me,

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00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. And they talked about guys working

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: out on their own. Have any of you guys been

555
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: in a gym lately to work out because the PANDEC

556
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: it's over. At least where I go, ain't nobody even

557
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: got a mask on. They're not testing temperatures or anything.

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00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: So how is that safer in the offseason to get

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00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: ready for a football season then coming into the facility.

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00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: So I just think there's a little bit of BS

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00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: going on here. And Everson, I know you're a big

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00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: union guy, but the nfl PA, to me, is trying

563
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: to come out and Smith D. Smith said yesterday, this

564
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: is not a boycott. This is just talent players to

565
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: do what's safest for them. Okay, I get it. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing I get is they're trying to appease

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Speaker 1: their membership for that seventeenth game getting approved. Right, they

568
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: did a trade out, they did some finance, they got

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00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: some financial concessions to give the owners the right to

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: give them a seventeenth game. Now, all of a sudden,

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00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: they're worried about their offseason and staying healthy. Well, how

572
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: do you stay healthy working out on your own? Now

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00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: I get the OTA parts. I was never a fan

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00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: of OTAs. If you were going to do OTAs, the

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00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: OTAs should be like walkthroughs, right, But they put a

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: helmet on, and all of a sudden, you know, guys

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00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: will be guys right, and suddenly you start getting competitive

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00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: and guys are jumping and leaping for catches and falling

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Speaker 1: on their shoulders without you know, and got shoulder pads on.

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00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: So I get that part of it, But I don't

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Speaker 1: get these four weeks of not participating and strength and

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00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: conditioning and you're telling me that helps your body be

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Speaker 1: ready for the start of training camp. I just don't

584
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: get that part of this whole deal. I hear what

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00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: you're saying, Spags, And like you said, heavy union guy

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: was a union rep for the Cowboys back in eighty

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00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: seven during the whole scrub thing scap thing. But what

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00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: you found out, as they found out in education, they

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00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: found out it was safer for the kids to go

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Speaker 1: to school as opposed to staying home from school and

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00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: learning virtually. They found out that as you come to school,

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00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: you have all the mechanisms in place, the protocols in place,

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00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: as you said, in regards to testing and things of

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00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: that nature. To me, it's a no win situation because

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00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: you can still have those problems, you can still infect

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: others while you have practice together. Because you can bring

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00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: that from home to the practice field. But either way,

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00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: if you go home and work out, you won't be

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00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: as competitive, that's very true. You won't improve as well

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00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: by just working out on your own, that's also very truth,

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00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: unless you're an extremely unique player who's very motivated, which

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00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot of are motivated, but just the odds of

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00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: that happening are very high. I do understand the concern there.

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00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: To me, like I said, it's a no win situation.

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00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: You can get it at home and bring it there,

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: or you can come and work out with some guys

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00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: who brought it to the practice field and then you

608
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: could take it home. So those kind of things are

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00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: still a concern here. And you know it's when it's

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: all said and done, the union's just reacting to the

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00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: way society is. If we could have had this thing

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00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: under control by now, by everyone doing the right thing,

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00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even be having this conversation, Spadge. So that's

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00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: like trying to put out a fire that started a

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00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: long time ago and it's still burning way back there

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00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: and now you're trying to control it here in the present.

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00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: So to me, it's still tough either way. Spadge and

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00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: I do agree in part with what you're saying, But

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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: what do you do? What is the alternative? Well, to me,

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00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: if you're coming into the facility, you're getting tested every day,

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00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: You're not getting tested going anywhere else. So to me,

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00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: how is that safer? And in a letter that Demorris

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: Smith and J. C. Teter sent out to the union members,

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00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: there's a sentence in here that says it is the

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00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: recommendation of the nfl PA, based on our medical experts

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00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: advice that if the voluntary offseason program is in persons

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00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: in person, players should not attend. Now they may choose

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00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: whatever word they want that it's a personal decision. And

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Speaker 1: he didn't like it during the press conference yesterday when

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00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: somebody mentioned it was a boycott. This is not a boycott,

631
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: this is not a strike. This is personal preference. I

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00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: get it. But you're telling guys that the nfl PA

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00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: COVID Committee that we that we suggest they have an

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00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: entirely virtual off season. Once again, I get it. On

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00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: the OTA practices and maybe the mini camps and how

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00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: they how they do those things, but strength and conditioning,

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00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: to me, that does not having that doesn't help you prepare.

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00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you did in the

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00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: off season because you didn't have OTAs or quarterback schools

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Speaker 1: back then, right, you were on your own. We had

641
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Speaker 1: mini camps. You had a mini camps like a couple, right,

642
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: that was a couple of mini camps. Yes, we did.

643
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Speaker 1: That's true because I remember, gosh, I can't remember who

644
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Speaker 1: it was one of the linebackers back in the seventies.

645
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Speaker 1: Um oh, gosh uh and and I asked them, no

646
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Speaker 1: one in Hollywood. It was the guy from Mississippi State,

647
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Speaker 1: go barn, No, it was from Mississippi State. Lewis. Did

648
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Speaker 1: Lewis Lewis? I asked D. D Lewis. I asked D. D.

649
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Lewis one time in an interview. I said, so in

650
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: the off season, what did you to get ready? And

651
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: he goes, well, he goes every day, at least for

652
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: a couple hours. I would sit in the pool and

653
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: do twelve ounts curls. That was his offseason. D D.

654
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Lewis to the athletes these days, that is extremely unfair.

655
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: Please don't compare DD Lewis's off season. You know, come on,

656
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: man an. So that was the but no better then,

657
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, if training camp was to get ready for

658
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: the season. Now you want to be running before you

659
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: go to training camp, right, So I just don't get

660
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: the logic behind the whole thing. Plus that basically the

661
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: NFL has basically said all tier one and Tier two employees,

662
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: so that's all coaches, anybody else that is around the

663
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: players on a daily basis that they have to be

664
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Speaker 1: vaccinated and if they're not vaccinated, then they can be

665
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: around the players on a daily basis. And they're saying,

666
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: we're not requiring you to be vaccinated, We're just suggesting

667
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: to be around the players that you better be vaccinated

668
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: otherwise you've got to do your job from a fire,

669
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty good move. And they

670
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: basically are telling teams to make sure that they're educating

671
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: all their employees to get vaccinated, not requiring it, but

672
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Speaker 1: educating them to the point of holding vaccination sites at

673
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Speaker 1: your facility to help everyone get vaccinated, including family members.

674
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: So they've taken that step. But now to say, now

675
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to get paid two hundred,

676
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy four two hundred and seventy five

677
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: dollars a day in the offseason for virtual workouts, go

678
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: ask some teachers how well students pay attention when they're

679
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: zooming classes. I had one teacher telling me that, you

680
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Speaker 1: know what, how do I get kids not to fall

681
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Speaker 1: asleep during my lesson? Because I'll look up and I

682
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Speaker 1: get there, there's a kid's sleeping, right, and there's no

683
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Speaker 1: parent there to wake him up. And some guys don't,

684
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: and I'll be one of them. I can sit in

685
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Speaker 1: a class and watch it on a screen. I learned

686
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Speaker 1: better if I'm actually doing it, like if you got

687
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Speaker 1: me on the field walking me through steps. And I

688
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: remember back in the gosh, I can't remember. It was

689
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Speaker 1: late nineties. Maybe the Cowboys had a running back and

690
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Speaker 1: he was local. It was a free agent, and they

691
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Speaker 1: finally decided figured out that he learned better on the

692
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Speaker 1: field instructions then he did looking at a video or uh,

693
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Speaker 1: you know a grease screen or whatever they call it

694
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Speaker 1: in diagram. Yeah, it's like it wasn't it was Thompson.

695
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Speaker 1: It was Thompson. You're right from Irving, Irving Mccarvinghchool. I

696
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Speaker 1: know it was Irving High School. No, they would love

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Speaker 1: to a Vattie Matt mccarthur, but five hundred and twenty

698
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Speaker 1: five yards in one game in high school. I think

699
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Speaker 1: it was probably against MacArthur. So anyway, I just I

700
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: just don't I just don't understand the logic of this

701
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Speaker 1: whole thing. But now I think you brought up a

702
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: good point. It's all about the vaccinations. I mean, let's

703
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Speaker 1: be real, if you're talking about vaccinations being there, then

704
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: no one's going to even make this argument at all.

705
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: All excuses will be out of the window. So that's

706
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: the magic word of there. Man. The vaccinations must be done,

707
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: at least be educated on it. And if you're gonna

708
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: put out a mandate as opposed to putting out a

709
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: virtual of minicamp, I think the mandate should be or

710
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: at least the importance should be on everyone getting vaccinated,

711
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: not just to when you say, I'm sure you talking

712
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: about players as well, I'm assuming if you're talking that,

713
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: but the players should be vaccinated and their families. I mean,

714
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: it's out there for everyone right now, so to me,

715
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: no excuses for that. This off season. The vaccinations should

716
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: be the priority, not necessarily whether the workouts are virtual

717
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: or not, because if we get the vaccinations done, then yeah,

718
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: OTAs can be virtual. But then as we improve into

719
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: the as we get into the off season, further into

720
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: the off season, then you maybe you're looking at the

721
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: change of mindset. You're looking at a change of mindset

722
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Speaker 1: and all the leadership, and then we can go back

723
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: to being being normal, so to speak. You know. And

724
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: their other point was not having it was having a

725
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: virtual offseason improved play. I don't know what they were watching, right,

726
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: It certainly wasn't this team, I guarantee you that. And

727
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: what they wanted to point out to mention the injuries, Yeah,

728
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: to mention, and they said the injuries went down. I

729
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: don't see where injuries went down didn't apply to this team, right,

730
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: that is a lie? Yeah, And they pointed out that

731
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: pain the teams were so good. They scored more points

732
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: in any NFL season twelve thousand, six hundred and ninety two,

733
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: and there was an average of forty nine point six

734
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: points scored a game, the highest since nineteen seventy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know why they scored so many points because the

736
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: defenses were so terrible. Yeah, so that doesn't make better football.

737
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: I just don't agree with their argument. And then one

738
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: other thing on this vaccine, I know we probably got

739
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: to go here, but I saw where the Buffalo Bills

740
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: have basically put out a mandate and said if fans

741
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: are not vaccinated, they will not be able to attend

742
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: Bills games. And they're getting ready to use something called

743
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Speaker 1: an Excelsior Pass app and it's only for people. It's

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00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: eligible for people that live in the state of New York.

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00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: And they said there'll be no exceptions, not religious or medical.

746
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Either you're vaccinated or you're not going to be allowed

747
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: into the games, and you have to have the app

748
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: to show people that you've been vaccinated. So I don't

749
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Speaker 1: know if that's extreme or not, but that's the step

750
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Speaker 1: they're taken in Buffalo. We don't have time to get

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Speaker 1: into this. But what do they do about people who

752
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: have had COVID and are not a candidate to be vaccinated?

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Speaker 1: Haven't heard that part yet, Okay, all right, that's something

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Speaker 1: to think about. All right, We continue with more mix shots.

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Speaker 1: the draft, and Mickey, you're Stephen Jones talking defense, defense, defense,

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Speaker 1: So what about an offensive lineman. When you want to

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Speaker 1: take your offensive lineman in this draft, I would take

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Speaker 1: one as early in the second round, maybe the third

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Speaker 1: or fourth. I would take an offensive tackle. And I

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Speaker 1: don't have to have the best offensive tackle or the

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Speaker 1: second best. Just give me somebody that has some quality better,

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Speaker 1: better than any of these swing tackles the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: employed over the last four years. That's all I'm asking for.

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Speaker 1: A guy that can step in and be my swing tackle.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to start. He would have the capability

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Speaker 1: of playing a little guard maybe if if, if needed.

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00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: But again, that backup offensive tackle spot, to me is

813
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Speaker 1: the one spot that they need to take care of

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Speaker 1: in this draft that I need somebody that can play.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be a first rounder, maybe not even

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Speaker 1: a second rounder, but third, fourth. Give me somebody that

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Speaker 1: I can sink my teeth into to grooming as we

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Speaker 1: move forward. And I'm sure there's some guys there that

819
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Speaker 1: you know they'll have something wrong with them, but you

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Speaker 1: figure out they've got some traits that you can work

821
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Speaker 1: with better than undrafted free agents that the Cowboys had

822
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Speaker 1: to start last year at both spots when with Eric

823
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Williams drafted third round, Bard round. Yeah, that's a good pick.

824
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Glary a second round, Adam's second round, Solomon Page second round,

825
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Speaker 1: and a bunch of those guys started at guard before

826
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: they moved out to tackle too. By the way, So

827
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: are any of those guys out there now? I mean

828
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Speaker 1: in the second, third round? You know, Bill up those guys.

829
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Speaker 1: He's looking right now as we speach, all right, So

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Speaker 1: you're wondering, are there are there second rounders, third rounders

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Speaker 1: that are going to be available that I think they're

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Speaker 1: probably you can you can find them. You can find them,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So, but Mickey, you are would not be

834
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Speaker 1: in favor of if Piney Seul or Ray Shawn Slater,

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Speaker 1: who are the top two ranked tackles that most people

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Speaker 1: talk about, are there for the cowboy Boys for the

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Speaker 1: taking at number ten or even in a trade back

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Speaker 1: scenario with Slater at number fifteen or fourteen or something

839
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: like that, you would not be in favor of one

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Speaker 1: of those guys at that point, I just think that's

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Speaker 1: that's using your resources as an embarrassment of riches to

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Speaker 1: think that I have to have a first round guy

843
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Speaker 1: at every spot on the offensive line. Ask Everson if

844
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Speaker 1: he ever, how many first round offensive lineman he played with. Right,

845
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Speaker 1: go go look at the Cowboys. Remember I don't even

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Speaker 1: remember my offensive lineman teammate's names. I'm sorry, Go look

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Speaker 1: at the Cowboys when they were winning, when they were

848
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Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls. The highest, the highest drafted offensive lineman

849
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Speaker 1: of that entire group was Larry Allen, and he didn't

850
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: get there until nineteen ninety four. Right. The others were

851
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: third rounders or free agent. Gogan was like a sixth

852
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: or seventh rounder in a twelve round draft, right off

853
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: of cur Crawford. Kerr was a third rounder, if I

854
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: remember correctly, Nate Newton, undrafted Mark two, and a undrafted

855
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: Mark Stepanowski third round. So you don't have to have

856
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: a first round guy at every spot. You find me

857
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: a second, third, fourth round guy that I can develop

858
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: and get in there and and have some have some talent.

859
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: They're out there. You just gotta but to use a

860
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: first round pick again on another offensive lineman. You got

861
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: to tell me that the defensive guys that I've got

862
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: high on my board are no longer available, no longer available,

863
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: and then I could maybe qualify it. But those guys

864
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: are going to be gone, Bill, Won't they be gone

865
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 1: in the top nine? Uh? Seul will be gone. Uh Slater.

866
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: Slater would probably be there at ten. Is he the

867
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: guy with the short on Well? Well, you know that's

868
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: the thing on the measurements on these because we didn't

869
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: have a combine this year. How much do you believe

870
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: all the measurements. There's there's an inconsistency on all. Right.

871
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: If there's the guy at Northwestern, does he really know

872
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: how to measure the arm length is at uniform across

873
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: the every pro day? I seriously doubt it. Slater at

874
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: thirty three inch arms, Pine Sewel thirty three and a

875
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: quarter inch arms, So it's not much difference there in

876
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: their arm length. But I didn't do the research. I

877
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: can't remember if I mentioned it on last week's show

878
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: or not. If you look around the NFL and look

879
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: at specifically at either tackle spot, but especially at left tackle,

880
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: and I think if you're drafting in the first round

881
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: a tackle that it needs to be someone who has

882
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: the ability to eventually replace Tyring Smith whenever he retires

883
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: at left tackle. If you look around the league, there

884
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: are very few tackle that with an arm length of

885
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: less than thirty four inches. It's just it gives them

886
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: a big advantage. Tyrant Smith, for example, has thirty six

887
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: inch arms and eleven inch hands. Speaking of hand size,

888
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: So again, if we if we are to assume that

889
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith and Lell Collins are ready to go, and

890
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: to me, they wouldn't have given them those restructured contracting

891
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: ready ready to go meaning ready to play, yes, ready

892
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: to leave, yeah, ready to play, yes, ready to go

893
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: the opening day. Right. They wouldn't have restructured their contracts

894
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: if they didn't feel like whatever surgeries they had took

895
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: care of what they needed. So if if those guys

896
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: are good, you're not going to draft a guy better

897
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: than Tyrn Smith, I'm sorry, And so that guy's gonna

898
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: sit on the bench. That would be like the Green

899
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: Bay Packers taken a quarterback last year or with wherever

900
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: they were twenty sixth pick or whatever, and he sat

901
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: on the bench and they didn't improve their team. Now

902
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: you may and I understand the draft isn't always for

903
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: this year. You got to look down the road. But

904
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: there's gonna be other tackles that you can you know,

905
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: these aren't the last tackles, you know, like the last

906
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: picture show, this is the last tackle show. Right. Same

907
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: thing with Kyle Pitts. I understand he's great, right, but

908
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the last tight end to ever come around.

909
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: That's gonna be good. In two years, There'll be another

910
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. So to me find you know there, I

911
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: saw the guy from Michigan. I think they they can

912
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: consider him a guard, maybe tackle. Jalen Mayfield. Is that

913
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: the guy from Michigan. Yep, Jalen Mayfield. He's six five,

914
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six pounds. You know, he may

915
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: be a second third round guy according to one board.

916
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: I saw. Take a guy like that and you talk

917
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: about you talk about arm length right, thirty two and

918
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: five eight cinches. That's why he's a guard. He's not

919
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: playing tackle in this league. He's not even got arms

920
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: long enough to play center. He can't even reach his

921
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: food on the plate if he pushed you far away

922
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: from the table. That's how short is on. Well, there was,

923
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: and there was. I have to say, though, there was

924
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: a guy from Nebraska. If we're picking at ten, if

925
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: we're picking at ten, everyone's not gonna be gone. Yeah,

926
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: this is this is like so out of the ram

927
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: of possibility, all the postles not gonna be gone, and

928
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: Collamore and Collin's not gonna be gone. Not to mention

929
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: the dbs s ten talking Farley, we're talking, all of

930
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: them are not gonna be gone, especially with the five

931
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you have, possibly in the first one. All of

932
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: them are not gonna be gone. We're gonna have our

933
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: choice to pick whoever we need. If it's not gonna

934
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: be a linebacker, it's gonna be one of these defense back.

935
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: So no, I just don't see that scenario. It's not

936
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: even logical. And Steven answered the question about defense, and

937
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: they were asking about different positions, and he said the

938
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: defensive needs. He goes, it's across the board. We can't

939
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: and then he went on to say, we can't have

940
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: enough linebacker. He was talking about the game today, right,

941
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: He said, you can't have enough linebackers who can cover.

942
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys obviously need more than one right, and

943
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: so that leaves that open. But he was very definitive defensively.

944
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: We have to get better and I'm telling you that's

945
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: I just can't see him being lulled to any other position.

946
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: He also had a great answer when he was asked

947
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: about Jerry's comment about Pitts that he was intrigued by

948
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: the tight end. Well, sure he's intrigued. Everybody's intrigued by him.

949
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: And Steven as or did this way, he said, certainly

950
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Jerry was just commenting on it. All right, Everson, I've

951
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: got a homework assignment for you before next week. We're

952
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: talking about the linebackers. I want you to go look

953
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: at Jeremiah Owusue Corama from Notre Dame. Yeah. Yeah, I

954
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: want you to take a pounds. Yeah. I wouldn't know

955
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about him. Guy can because somewhat of

956
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: a hyper if he wanted to, because he wants what

957
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing four five forty you know. Oh yeah, I'm

958
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: going for that that highlight tape of his Wow, it's

959
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: something else. Um and and you talk about the new breed,

960
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: what Mickey, what Stevens talking about? There? The day and

961
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: age where a linebacker who can cover this guy is.

962
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean in sub packages. He's one of your starting linebackers,

963
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: and he can in the in the base defense, he

964
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: can play safety for you. You could you you could

965
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: use him in a nickel the way they wanted to

966
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: do last year, you know, use him as a nickel

967
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: guy as opposed to going with a small defensive bat. Yeah,

968
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: instead of putting instead of putting Everson Walls linebacker, you know,

969
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: instead of putting. Hey, man, come, you don't know what

970
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of work I did in New York when they

971
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: moved me the safety baby. I have the I have

972
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: the pitch nerves to show for it. I'll stick in

973
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: here if I have to. And then the other the

974
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: other thing. Uh. An homework assignment for both of you

975
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: for next Tuesday? Who is who is the guy that

976
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: you want the Cowboys to come away with in the

977
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: first round? And you can throw in other guys if

978
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: you'd like, depending on how much research you want to do.

979
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: But who do you want the Cowboys to get in

980
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: the first round next week? Okay? All right, got assignment,

981
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: all right, and we will talk at you again next

982
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: week here on Mick Shots Gold Cowboys. This has been

983
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,480
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984
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,720
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