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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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Speaker 1: Todd's Lucky. It's Friday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: It's the All Star break.

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Speaker 1: Time to relax and kick back. Did you guys do

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Speaker 1: anything fun over the All Star Break?

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Speaker 2: Ruben?

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Speaker 1: What'd you do over the All Star Break?

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Speaker 2: I didn't really do much. Did a little WYP action.

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Speaker 2: I did the radio little This All that I hosted

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Speaker 2: with my man Jody Mack, who is a icon. I've

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Speaker 2: been doing it for years and years and years, New York, Philly, everywhere.

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Speaker 2: His dad was a GM and A and an executive

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Speaker 2: for many many years, Mets, Detroit Tigers, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Right, did you watch the All Star Game or catch

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Speaker 1: any highlights or anything like that?

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Speaker 2: Got some highlights? I watched a little bit of the game,

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Speaker 2: but not very much, to be honest, because you know,

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Speaker 2: I have a life. Jim, How was Jim? How was

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Speaker 2: the All Star Game? For you?

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Speaker 3: I just want to make a point about Jody Max's dad,

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Speaker 3: Joe Joe McDonald, legendary former Mets GM and one of

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Speaker 3: the nicest guys in baseball. If you've ever had an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to meet him, it's kind of special to meet him.

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Speaker 3: So I'd seen him around a ballparks a lot of

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Speaker 3: times in spring training, very friendly. But one day I

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Speaker 3: was after you guys, Rubin won the World Series in

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Speaker 3: twenty eight, right before spring training, I went down and

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Speaker 3: spent a couple of days with Charlie Manuel to do

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Speaker 3: a series of stories just about how life is, life

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Speaker 3: had changed and you know, being a world champion. And

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Speaker 3: he was predictably great and funny, and I think we

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Speaker 3: talked fishing. It might have went fishing. But one day

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Speaker 3: we went for barbecue. We went to this place called

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Speaker 3: People's Barbecue, you know, very southern, just kind of a

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Speaker 3: dingy old pig stand, you know, a rib house, and

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Speaker 3: we got some ribs and Joe McDonald was in there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we bumped into Joe McDonald's many years ago.

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Speaker 4: But that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Joe McDonald used to go I'm still goes to games.

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Speaker 2: I mean goes to games. He lives in Lakeland, I believe,

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Speaker 2: So it was like he's always going to games. I

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Speaker 2: I think he might be in his nineties and I

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Speaker 2: still think they go into baseball game from time to time.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, man, he's a baseball He's a base talking

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Speaker 2: about a baseball lifer.

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Speaker 3: Holy he lives in the Lakeland area because of his

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Speaker 3: time with the Tigers and Charlie being over in winter Haven.

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Speaker 3: It's all kind of right there. But my All Star break,

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Speaker 3: you know, I love the Star Game. When I was

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Speaker 3: a kid, it was one of the highlights of my

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Speaker 3: summer and I think I've covered about twenty of them.

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Speaker 3: It's always stiflingly hot. I mean whenever your wherever it is,

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Speaker 3: it's just always a thousand degrees. But anyway, I settled

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Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns pitch the top of the first inning, and

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Speaker 3: I watched Paul Skeins go out to pitch the bottom

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Speaker 3: of the first and the power went out. We had

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Speaker 3: a hallacious storm. Power went out, so I couldn't watch

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Speaker 3: the game. And we're kind of recording here about forty

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Speaker 3: nine hours later and I still have no power. But

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Speaker 3: I was able to get the generator going and get

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Speaker 3: to bring to people what they want to Toddpod.

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Speaker 5: Hey, but this is this is the second iteration of

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Speaker 5: this pot because we tried to do it earlier with

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Speaker 5: your phone. We try to had some real issues and

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Speaker 5: and in fact, there was one part where Jimmy actually

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Speaker 2: He didn't know he was on. He didn't know it

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Speaker 2: was Fortunately he was clothed, but it would have been

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Speaker 2: a heck of a shot had he not, had he

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Speaker 2: been a little short with his shorts. I was.

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Speaker 3: I was properly attired. I haven't showered in a while,

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Speaker 3: but I was properly tired.

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Speaker 2: But that would have been a good That was a

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Speaker 2: great comeback for all the things that I did to

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so good, so good.

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Speaker 2: So good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I watched the All Star Game. The Phillies pretty showed

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Speaker 1: up pretty well. All three guys, all the three infielders,

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Speaker 3: I think my favorite image from the All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: It's gotten so big.

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Speaker 4: You know, and so like it's like it's like.

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Speaker 2: A lot of popping, a lot of popping circumstance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the red carpet and the clam of it all.

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Speaker 3: But it was really cool to see Alec Bohm go

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Speaker 3: down the red carpet with his mom and dad. That

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Speaker 3: was you know, getting to the big leagues is a

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Speaker 3: family affair. It's a it's a family journey. And I

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Speaker 2: He also had a very cool jacket on right that

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Speaker 2: shot had this whole like the path to the major leagues,

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Speaker 2: all the stops that he had, and had all the

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Speaker 2: logos of the teams that he played for as he

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Speaker 2: was matriculating through the system kind.

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Speaker 1: Of high school all the way up to the big

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Speaker 2: And he really showed well in the in the really

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Speaker 4: That was greatly and it really came out.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that was really cool and shows

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Speaker 2: a lot about what this team's about is like pretty

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Speaker 2: much every single person that was there for the All

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Speaker 2: Star Game for the Phillies they were all there to

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Speaker 2: support them, all on the field, helping them, supporting them,

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Speaker 2: giving them love, and that's a really neat thing and

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Speaker 2: that's not the case for a lot of the other teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there were some other players that didn't

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Speaker 2: For one another.

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Speaker 1: And it is a really really good, real good clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: Really unique and really cool, and it's it's a joy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean, so the kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Phillies kick off the second half on Friday night against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: They're coming off this fantastic first half, sixty two wins, franchise.

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Speaker 2: Record before the break.

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Speaker 1: They've got I think they're tied for second in baseball

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Speaker 1: and runs per game. The rotation has the best rotation

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Speaker 1: they they're down to thirteenth now. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: we thought about this, some storylines to look for in

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Speaker 1: the second half, and number one probably Zach Wheeler and

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Speaker 1: Ranger Surez returning to dominance and easing any concerns about backs,

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Speaker 3: I gotta go number one there, because this is a

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Speaker 3: team that's built on its starting pitching. Starting pitching is

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Speaker 3: the bedrock of the team. And those are two hugely

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Speaker 3: You're gonna lean on in the second half. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: really lean on in October. You know, the rotation leads

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Speaker 3: the leads the majors in era. It literally is the

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Speaker 3: they the Philly say both of them mets and back issues,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not doubting that. Probably a little twins or something,

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Speaker 4: Maybe a little fatigue.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to see them come back next

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Speaker 3: just looking like outstanding major league pitchers again looking like

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Speaker 4: Up to the people in the seats.

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Speaker 2: And I think I actually think that that Wheeler was

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Speaker 2: still pitching pretty well. But there's you know, obviously, because

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Speaker 2: In his first you know, fourteen starts or whatever, thirteen starts,

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Speaker 2: pitching with a lot more effort than he was in

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Speaker 2: You could see he was forcing the pitches into the

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Speaker 2: trying to force the pitches into the strike zone, not

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Speaker 2: nearly the same command with his breaking ball, change up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ranger one hundred and fourteen innings. At the All

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Speaker 1: Star break season he had sixty two. I think his

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Speaker 1: career high was in twenty twenty two. He might have

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Speaker 1: had eighty four innings at the All Star breaks. So

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Speaker 1: he's way beyond what he's ever ever been before. So

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Speaker 1: you get Wheeler going, you get Suarez going, everything starts

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Speaker 1: to feel a little bit better about the health of

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Speaker 1: the rotation. Number two storyline, maybe number two thing to

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Speaker 1: watch is just just overall health. This is something that

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Speaker 1: Rob Thompson talks about a lot. You know, you say,

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Speaker 1: what are you concerned about?

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Speaker 2: Rob? Right now?

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Speaker 1: He's like, I just the health of my players. The

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Speaker 1: health of my players. I got to keep these guys healthy.

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Speaker 1: You're getting JT. Real Muto back. You know, you survive

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner bing out, you survive the groin injury from

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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, you survive the hamstring injury for Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, you said you mentioned complimentary players maybe at

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Speaker 2: What should they do? Well?

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Speaker 4: And Zach is that a lot of money?

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Speaker 3: That type of a financial outlay, to me embodies being

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Speaker 3: This thing hasn't even begun to heat up yet. We

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Speaker 4: You don't know.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I look at Washington. They got a

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Speaker 3: If if if they go south over the next two weeks,

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Speaker 4: So I still think all of this.

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Speaker 3: I think the the you know, the check and flag

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think it's green flag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been waved yet.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think it's been waved yet.

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Speaker 2: On the trade deadline, well you don't think that Hunter

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Speaker 2: That was that was one. That was one. We got

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Speaker 4: But okay, I rode a couple of Hey, let me

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Speaker 3: They took a center fielder with the number one pick,

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Speaker 2: I think that conspiracy theory has been a little too

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Speaker 3: Tell me you you you were Dave Debrowski's counterpotters, a GM.

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Speaker 2: I think he's to do something, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: got that old school mentality. They's got to do something

437
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Speaker 2: to improve this team. You heard Harper talk about it,

438
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: how it gives him chills to think about what David

439
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: Browse's gonna do. But I do, but I do, and

440
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Speaker 2: I know I like the way he pushes buttons, But

441
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have liked it, but

442
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: that's what he does. But again, I think that Dave

443
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: knows he was the game. He's been a champion. He

444
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: understands the importance of what another little piece can can bring.

445
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be a huge one. It

446
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: can be a small one. This team doesn't need a

447
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: huge one. I don't think we did in certain spots.

448
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: We needed a big arm, We needed a right fielder,

449
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: we needed you know, we needed some arms at times

450
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: to shore up our rotation. But but this team that

451
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: doesn't have those kind doesn't have those gaping holes that

452
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: you get that that make you worry.

453
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of I was gonna say, it reminds

454
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Speaker 1: me of two thousand and eight c C. Sabathia. Who's

455
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Speaker 1: gonna get Ceciza Bath. You gotta get ceizabath You gotta

456
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Speaker 1: get Ceisa Bathy. And I don't remember what you guys

457
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: offered the Indians to get him, but obviously you fell short.

458
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: And then you go out with go out and get

459
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Speaker 1: Joe Blatton and it was kind of like, Eah, he's okay,

460
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Speaker 1: But that was an upgrade. I remember Pat Gillick always

461
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: used to talk about incremental upgrades. You can upgrade your

462
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: team a little bit, even just a little bit, it's

463
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: worth it. You get Jo Blattin and end up winning

464
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: the World Series that year.

465
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Speaker 3: Well, hey, Rubin, didn't you think a little bit about

466
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: Manny Ramirez that year?

467
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Speaker 4: Or was it one of those years?

468
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Speaker 2: One of those years we talked a little bit about

469
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Speaker 2: a lot about Manny. I think it was a year

470
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: after that we talked a little bit about Manny. We

471
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about uh that one year we

472
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Speaker 2: were we were talking about Beltran. I mean, there's a

473
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on. Bel Tran ended

474
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Speaker 2: up being moved for Zach Wheeler. That's right.

475
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Speaker 1: Woo, that's right, San Francisco, how about that?

476
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Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, interesting stuff there. But you know, I

477
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: think I do think that this team is a way

478
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Speaker 2: more complete team. I think that that that an incremental,

479
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: uh little incremental push would would boost the clubhouse a

480
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: little bit and also boost this ball club.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the stars they've brought in the

482
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: last starting with Real, Mudo and Harper, but every off

483
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: season they bring in stars and you know.

484
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: They've been all in.

485
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Speaker 3: It's it's really time to cash in and a little

486
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 3: tweak hare of there, Phil a Hole could do Wanders Todd.

487
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: If you can only do one the right handed bat

488
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Speaker 3: or the reliever or what are you doing?

489
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Speaker 2: Man?

490
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Speaker 1: That's a great question. I just don't know who the

491
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: right handed bat would be. But I I kind of

492
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: have flashbacks to the postseason last year where I felt

493
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: like Rob was a little short handed at times and

494
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: he was kind of he kind of boxed himself in

495
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: with the way were they were using guys and and

496
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: who was available and who wasn't available, And so I

497
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: think just to have another guy that he can go

498
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: to and feel confident and is would be would be big.

499
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Speaker 2: You're talking are you talking about the out of the pen?

500
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about out of the pen? And and and

501
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: I say that because I can't remember who were at

502
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Speaker 1: this Sorry, might have been Scott Lawber at the inquiry

503
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: broke it down and it's it's not I think a

504
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: lot of people know this. In the postseason, cook for

505
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: the starting pitchers is quick, so you're going to your

506
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: bullpen a lot in the postseason. So I think having

507
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Speaker 1: another quality arm, you know, if you're going to pull

508
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: somebody in five and two thirds innings and now you

509
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: know you're doing that a lot. You want to have

510
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: an extra armor in there that you can really rely

511
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Speaker 1: on and trust. So I would I think the arm

512
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: to me would be a bigger difference maker.

513
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Speaker 4: I agree.

514
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Speaker 3: If I can only do one, I'm trying to get

515
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Speaker 3: a stun gun arm.

516
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mason Miller, that's what everybody wants.

517
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Speaker 2: That's if you want. Then you're having to give up

518
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: both Crawford and Miller, or or Crawford and you know

519
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: Painter or Miller and Painter. I mean, I just I

520
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: love the arm. I he he only has eighty some

521
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: innings pitched in his major league career. It's an electric arm,

522
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Speaker 2: there's no question. And it's an arm that's got a

523
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: U C. L issue. He started, they put him in

524
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: the bullpen. He bitched well towards the end of the year.

525
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: Last year, he's dominating. Now, I get it. I love him,

526
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But you got to think big

527
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: pic small picture. You know micro and macro. In this

528
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: day and age, you use micro macro guys. Okay, let's

529
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: step it up.

530
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Speaker 1: Let's let's step it up micro macro. I I failed

531
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Speaker 1: my ape contest in high school. I took a p

532
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: econ my senior year, I did not get a single

533
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: college credit for I bombed out.

534
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: So I still don't know what micro.

535
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Talk to me about micro and macro Please.

536
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Speaker 4: I love I love maclarooons.

537
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: That's good, especially now. They're way better now than he

538
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: used to be. I mean, the nice little shell on

539
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: the outside.

540
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Speaker 1: Nice.

541
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Speaker 2: Oh that's great, But.

542
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: So uh, you know you talk about I think this

543
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: is a moment right where the front office has to

544
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: really know the players at the top of their system, right,

545
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you really think Aiden Miller

546
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Speaker 1: is going to be a superstar, or if you maybe

547
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: have a little bit of doubt, I mean that's I mean,

548
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: that's so important. I think at the trade deadline is

549
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: really doing and self evaluating your own talent. So yeah,

550
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: because if you really, if Dave Dombrowski true believes that,

551
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: like Aiden Miller is going to be a star, superstar,

552
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: and he thinks Andrew Painter's gonna come back and be

553
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: an ace in this rotation kind of take over for

554
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler and Aaron Nolan a couple of years. I

555
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: don't know how you trade him for Mason Miller when

556
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: you're already a very, very good team. But I guess

557
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: if there's some doubts or kernels of doubt, maybe then

558
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: you throw caution to the wind and trade him.

559
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why they make the big bucks.

560
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: That's why gas make the big bucks, because I mean, really,

561
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: the self evaluation is so important. You know, I made

562
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: I made some trades. I made a ton of trades,

563
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: moving a lot of talent, young talent. Neil Corossco and

564
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: maybe Darnault probably the biggest two. Hap ended up pitching

565
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: very well. But guys that didn't kill you, Guys who

566
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Speaker 2: weren't Hall of famers when they walked out. They weren't

567
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: like perennial All Stars, but good players. But other than that,

568
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: I mean, of all the moves that we made, those

569
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: really were the three guys that had some impact in

570
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: the major at least were good major league players. I

571
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: just feel like, you know, prospects or prospects and et cetera,

572
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: et cetera, but you really have to. I think that's

573
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Speaker 2: one of the most important things is an organizations evaluate

574
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Speaker 2: your own so that you're to make the right decisions

575
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: down the road.

576
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Speaker 3: It would be so much easier if the image in

577
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: the crystal ball were to flash in neon lights. You

578
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: really win the World Series if you do this move,

579
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: because it's all about winning the World Series. And there's

580
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: no executive that wouldn't make a move if he knew

581
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: he was gonna win the World Series. But it's a

582
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: it's a tough call, man. You're right, that's why they're

583
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Speaker 3: in the big chair.

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Speaker 1: Another thing to look forward, I think in the second

585
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: half we're talking. We just talked about additions, trade deadline,

586
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Speaker 1: we talked about keeping guys healthy. How about some how

587
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: about some of those complimentary towards the bottom of the

588
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: lineup just stepping up and showing up a little bit more.

589
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Bryce and Stott. I'm talking about maybe

590
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Speaker 1: a little bit more consistency of Nick Castianos has actually

591
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: played pretty well sincepin May. How about Sir Anthony Dominguez

592
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Speaker 1: getting on track and staying on track. I think that

593
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: would use a lot of concerns and that and if

594
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Speaker 1: they do getting another bullpen piece and he steps up, boy,

595
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: now your bullpen looks really good. So Stott, Dominguez, some

596
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Speaker 1: of these guys again lower half of the lineup, that

597
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: could really I think make a difference. And in the

598
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Speaker 1: back end of the bullpen.

599
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Speaker 3: All of the above. I mean, you nailed it with

600
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Speaker 3: the names. They could use some more from every one

601
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: of those guys, because the most important guys on this

602
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: team are the ones.

603
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Speaker 4: That are here right now.

604
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they could get a little bit more from that,

605
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Speaker 3: from the guys who've produced at kind of the back third.

606
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Speaker 3: If Stott can come alive like he was last year,

607
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: what a boon that would be. Castianos has performed better,

608
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Speaker 3: as we articulated over the last few weeks. If you

609
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: can get a smidge more for him, and you can

610
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: add some consistency, you take it. Dominguez is a huge one.

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Speaker 3: He had a pretty good little run going and on

612
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: Sunday he was behind everybody and he was throwing meat

613
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: balls and they were hitting him into the parking lot.

614
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: But they need more from him too.

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00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge Bryce and Stott fan and have been

617
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: from the very beginning. I mean, we have to remember

618
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: this guy was a short step when they went to

619
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Speaker 2: the World Series and he did he was like a

620
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred. But he's really improved. I think

621
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Speaker 2: he's a much better hitter than he has shown this year.

622
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Speaker 2: I think his mechanics have gotten messed up. I think

623
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Speaker 2: that his thought process has gotten a little away from him.

624
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: He's in between right now. He's trying to It seems

625
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: like he's trying to hit the bottom of the ballpark,

626
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: which is not his game. I think he's a gap

627
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: to gap guy. He handles the ball. He at one

628
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: point in his career, and I think he will do

629
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: it again. He handled the ball away and drove the

630
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Speaker 2: ball the other way with with some authority with base

631
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: hits over there, and I just feel like he's gotten

632
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: away from his game plan. He's not using that top

633
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: hand like he was using last year, which he talked

634
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: about a lot in the first part of the season

635
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 2: and kind of carried it all the way through the season.

636
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Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna be a breakout year for him.

637
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: It's been a struggle, But I do know that there's

638
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: plenty of baseball left for him to get to the

639
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 2: point where he's a You know that the real Bryson

640
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: Stott arises and comes forth, because I will tell you this.

641
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: And they put j T up ahead of him, they

642
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: put Castillano's up ahead of him in that lineup, and

643
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: they slide or they you know, intermix those guys and

644
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: Bryson Scott starts to swing it. You talk about length

645
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: in your lineup, Holy smokes, that's something that's that the

646
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: pitcher's just looking at the lineup, going who do I go?

647
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: Who do I get? And so I think he is

648
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: really important and a lot more important than just a

649
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: just an extra guy. If he if he comes alive

650
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: and becomes the guy that he will be eventually and

651
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: can be Nelly look out National League.

652
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Speaker 1: I mean he was hitting three hundred mid August last season.

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Speaker 1: You talk about guys, can you still have a lot

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Speaker 1: of time to play? Trey Turner can tell you that

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Speaker 1: from last year he was. He was not very good

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Speaker 1: until first weekend of August, and then he turned it

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Speaker 1: on towards.

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Speaker 2: Me maybe Bryce and Stottney's a standing up.

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Speaker 1: There we go, there we go.

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Speaker 2: Standing get him roll on, get it, get him rolling

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And then the last thing I think it would be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. And the first four things we talked

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Speaker 1: about it was all geared towards winning the World Series.

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Speaker 1: This is all the only thing that matters with this team,

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Speaker 1: you know, get into the playoffs, winning a franchise record

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Speaker 1: regular season.

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Speaker 2: If they don't win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: No one's going to care. And this this last thing

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Speaker 1: is not have anything to do with the World Series.

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Speaker 1: But can Bryce Harper run down his third n L

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Speaker 1: m V. That'll be a fun thing to watch in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Ken Zach Wheeler, who came into the season.

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Speaker 1: Remember spring training he says, I'm learning a splitter because

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Speaker 1: I want to win a cy Young, which was awesome.

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Speaker 1: You remember that I'm learning another pitch because I want

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Speaker 1: to win a cy Young. Yeah, I love the honesty.

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Speaker 1: Can that happen? And and then can Trey Turner get

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Speaker 1: enough play appearances? He should if he plays every day

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Speaker 1: by by September to qualify for batting title and be

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Speaker 1: the first Phillies player to win a batting title since

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Speaker 1: Weddy Ashburn in nineteen white that's crazy. Yeah, Bobby Bray

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Speaker 1: on this team, you know, we thought I could win

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Speaker 1: a batting title. Chase that only had a couple of

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Speaker 1: years where he was hitting over three thirty. You thought

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Speaker 1: he might have won a batting title. Hasn't happened since Whitey,

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Speaker 1: So Harper, MVP, Wheeler, cy Young, Turner batting title. Those

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Speaker 1: will be kind of some fun things to watch as

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Speaker 1: this team gears up towards the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some great names. You look at Otawi, who might

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Speaker 3: be the favorite right now for MVP. You just wonder

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Speaker 3: if I mean he's DH would people take that into consideration.

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Speaker 3: Where Harper's on the field every day playing first base. Yell,

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Speaker 3: it's just having a good year for a contending team.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So, uh, you know, I think.

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Speaker 3: Right now Zach Wheeler leads the league in e er,

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Speaker 3: but thing he's tied with Sale.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a nice race.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And I do expect Trey Turner to stay up there

702
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Speaker 3: high in average. It's just if he gets enough at bats, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I had my colleague Paul Cassello, who's

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Speaker 1: a whiz figuring out doing numbers, and he said, if

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Speaker 1: he plays every day with the amount of bats the

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Speaker 1: plate appearances he's averaging, by the end of season, he

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Speaker 1: should clear the minimum, which the thing is like a

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Speaker 1: five hundred and two plate appearances appearances, he.

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Speaker 2: Should clear that.

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Speaker 1: He should clear that by about seventy five plate appearances,

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Speaker 1: so he should qualify.

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Speaker 2: He should qualify.

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Speaker 4: Harper thing, Oh, Tani could win the triple Crown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's nut. Yeah, Yeah, he's going crazy, and I

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00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: was the one I was one pushing hard for. If

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Speaker 2: somebody were to sign him, I would have signed him

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00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: as a hitter. As a hitter, only put him in

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Speaker 2: right field or d HM or do whatever. The whole

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Speaker 2: pitching thing. Great, that's like gravy for me. But when

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Speaker 2: you have this kind of a talent, you need to

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Speaker 2: have this guy on the field every single day wheeling

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Speaker 2: that poll because he can, because he can do some damage. Man,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's super impressive. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know it's great to have him on the mound

725
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: and it's a wonderful story, But man, I would have

726
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Speaker 2: just signed him to be a hitter. I don't know

727
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Speaker 2: if it would have been seven hundred million, but I

728
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: certainly would have paid him a whole bowtload of money

729
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Speaker 2: to be just an offensive player.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what Otani?

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00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: I think this is?

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00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: After the All Star After the All Star Game, somebody

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Speaker 1: asked him who impressed him the most while he was

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Speaker 1: while he was in Texas this week, he said Bryce

735
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Hert impressed him the most, watching him how he prepares

736
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Speaker 1: for the game and just watching him go about us

737
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: into business. I thought that was kind of cool show. Heyo,

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Speaker 1: Tony saying the guy that impressed him the most was

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 2: Not surprised, So there you get surprised. He's a routine guy. Man,

741
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 2: he's locked in. And let me tell you something. Bryce

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Speaker 2: Harper is a hell of a hitter. I mean he

743
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: is a hell of a hitter. I mean he drives

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Speaker 2: ball the opposite way. He can pull the ball, he

745
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: can hit the ball for power the other way. He

746
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: can put the ball for power on the pool side.

747
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: He can do a lot of things, and he can

748
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Speaker 2: do it at the right time too. Man. He rises

749
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Speaker 2: to the occasion. So it'll be fun to watch him

750
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Speaker 2: try to run down that MVP. Don't count out Trey

751
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: Turner for the MVP, yeah, because I will tell you, man,

752
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: he'll get some he you know, he may end up

753
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Speaker 2: with a top five if he continues to do the

754
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: damage he's doing. Say he hits you know, fifteen more

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: home runs to the end of the year. Yeah, you're

756
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: starting looking at some crazy numbers now. Now he doesn't

757
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: have the RBIs, but you got the stolen bases and

758
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: both some stolen bases. Yeah, never know.

759
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Harper has been Player of the Month twice. Yeah, he

760
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: might have a ridiculous second half. Oh yeah, you look

761
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: at the way how good he's playing. He's healthy and

762
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Speaker 3: he's such we call him the showman. He loves the

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Speaker 3: center stage. And right now it seems like the Phillies

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Speaker 3: are like the center of baseball, even more so than

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Speaker 3: they were last year. Definitely more so than they were

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Speaker 3: last They're like the center of baseball, best record, forty

767
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Speaker 3: four thousand every night, you know, dominating their their town,

768
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Speaker 3: dominating their their game.

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Speaker 4: He might just feed off all of that spotlight in

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Speaker 4: that glare and even take it to another level.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, if you have it. It reminds me

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Speaker 2: of Gary Matthews when he say hey man, when I

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Speaker 2: was a batley he goes, he looked at me and goes, hey,

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Speaker 2: it's time for the show.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly what Bryce Harper is thinking every single

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Speaker 3: night at time of the show, and he wants that

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Speaker 3: ring more than anything.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the m v P is uh. I

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Speaker 4: think he likes that too. I think he's gonna he

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Speaker 4: would not I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would ever admit it, but especially

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Speaker 1: if it's if it's like who's going to win it?

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Speaker 4: Show?

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00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Hey, or Bryce Harper. I think that could keep him

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Speaker 1: laser focused.

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Speaker 2: You know. I think he would love that.

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Speaker 1: He would love that challenge and try to running down

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Speaker 1: the big guy and out in l aes.

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Speaker 2: You think about it. I mean, he gets that third

790
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: m v P man. The man's going to the Hall

791
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Speaker 2: of Fame. Yeah, I mean, how could he not m

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Speaker 2: v P. Yeah, he's probably there.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, he's close, He's close.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get there. Yeah. That locks him. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, so Philly's Pirates this weekend, it's gonna be Aaron Nola.

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00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: It's going to open it up on Friday night, and

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Speaker 1: then it's gonna be Chris saying Chez and Tyler Phillips

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Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday. Rob Thompson did not announce which day.

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Speaker 2: They will pitch.

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Speaker 1: They will pitch the rest of the weekend, those final

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Speaker 1: two games in Pittsburgh, and then some way, shape or form,

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Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler and Ranger Soars will open up that three

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Speaker 1: game series beginning Monday night in Minnesota. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: how they line it up, see how it goes, and

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Speaker 1: we will be back on Monday to talk more Phillies. Guys, Jim,

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Speaker 1: I hope you get your power back on. You can

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Speaker 1: take a shower before Monday.

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Speaker 2: Please do, because I could smell if from here.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a perfect segue. I will be smelling you

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Speaker 3: guys later.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely smelling you. You guys.

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