Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is a certified freak seven
Speaker 1: days a week. Welcome about that for the holidays to
Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansince. I come to you from a virtual
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal and you
Speaker 1: know who it is, Colleen who? Hey? What's what's up? Guys?
Speaker 1: What is that T shirt you're wearing? What do you mean? Why? Wait?
Speaker 1: Do you are? This is a heel turn Jeremiah Brooks
Speaker 1: the sticks T shirt? This is just something I pulled
Speaker 1: out of the laundry. Just tell me that you didn't
Speaker 1: buy it. Please tell me you didn't put money in
Speaker 1: his pocket. No one's bought it, Dan, don't worry this.
Speaker 1: This was a gift. This was a gift from d
Speaker 1: Day and now it's my gift to you. Well, it
Speaker 1: is clear that Daniel and uh I guess Bucky was
Speaker 1: part of the mailing campaign to um sent this shirt
Speaker 1: to everyone at NFL media save for uh the four
Speaker 1: of us, including Chris Wesley. You know now everyone tweeted
Speaker 1: about it and has it it? Wait so you so
Speaker 1: Mark is now turned this into he wants the free merch.
Speaker 1: I don't want it. I just think that it was
Speaker 1: a very targeted, um nonsense to the four of us
Speaker 1: I needed. We're running low on the dish rags, so
Speaker 1: I was hoping one would come from me, but apparently
Speaker 1: not in the mail yet. I found my mom's favorite,
Speaker 1: my favorite Eagles T shirt that I owned. My mom
Speaker 1: was using it in a pile of rags to clean
Speaker 1: the house, which is very fitting. And I'm sure I
Speaker 1: can find some more of those right now if I
Speaker 1: loved it's absolutely Colleen. Always a joy when you join
Speaker 1: us here on the show, especially here um during the holidays.
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving here in America on Thursday. Very strange Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: what's been a very strange year. We still have each
Speaker 1: other though, and we also have and I'm just teasing
Speaker 1: this because I want to get into the end of
Speaker 1: the show. We have Erica tam posts appearance on The
Speaker 1: Weakest Link that aired Monday night on NBC, and I'll
Speaker 1: say this as a tease. They were good things from
Speaker 1: the show. We'll start with The Strongest Link in the
Speaker 1: last round, and once again it's Erica and not so
Speaker 1: good things from the show. I'm tempted to just ask
Speaker 1: both and me to smell your first names. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a true gift. I'm really excited to talk about it,
Speaker 1: all right, And okay, maybe we'll have some special guests
Speaker 1: at the end of the show as well, so that's
Speaker 1: coming up later. Also, we have to dig into the
Speaker 1: big Thanksgiving schedule in the NFL, as tradition dictates three
Speaker 1: NFL games played on Turkey Day, and we're gonna preview
Speaker 1: all those. Will check in on an updated Hot Bunt
Speaker 1: Hot Butt Power rankings amongst head coaches as we head
Speaker 1: down the street. But before any of that, we must
Speaker 1: finish the week eleven slate with a Monday Night football recap.
Speaker 1: It's pretty well ward outstretched head at it too far,
Speaker 1: too far for Brett and intercepted. Jordan's Fuller comes off
Speaker 1: with his second interception of the night, and it was
Speaker 1: the game sealer by Jordan Fuller. We picked off Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: the decisive play in a victory for the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 1: who improved to seven and three and keep themselves right
Speaker 1: in the mix at the top at the at the
Speaker 1: top of the NFC West and for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: You started asking some questions, Colleen, We started asking some questions.
Speaker 1: I can't believe those two Brady interceptions. Like, first of all,
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of watching this game with Wes
Speaker 1: and Keisha and Link. So maybe that's a humble brag
Speaker 1: to start the show at this point, but it was
Speaker 1: so awesome. Your and John who John Ronald gonzalaz Bo
Speaker 1: Mars twel is, an American sports writer, was married NFL
Speaker 1: meda broadcaster Colleen Wolfe. John, who was a Pisces, resides
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a there was a cake for Erica, but
Speaker 1: we won't get into that right now. Um, that's for
Speaker 1: later in the show. So watching this game though, I
Speaker 1: mean those two interceptions that Brady through, they were horrendous.
Speaker 1: They were just awful throws right to Jordan Fuller, both
Speaker 1: of them. Obviously, that last one sealed the game. But
Speaker 1: I thought for sure when the Rams gave the ball
Speaker 1: back to Tom Brady at the end there, I thought
Speaker 1: it was kind of a curious decision to be so
Speaker 1: conservative on Sean mcveigh's part. And then they gave Tom
Speaker 1: Brady the ball back with like two and a half
Speaker 1: minutes to go, and I thought that Brady was going
Speaker 1: to get it done for the Bucks, and that did
Speaker 1: not happen. Like the fact that the Rams weren't able
Speaker 1: to take the Bucks out of it at any point
Speaker 1: of the game. I think was frustrating because they played
Speaker 1: Jared Goff played so well in the first half and
Speaker 1: then some of that shine came off in the second half.
Speaker 1: But I it's just so hard to understand this Bucks offense,
Speaker 1: Like some weeks they'll look amazing and then other weeks
Speaker 1: just a little loss. I don't know. I think McVeigh
Speaker 1: trusted his defense. Now, he loves he loves to run
Speaker 1: on third and long, and he loves to not go
Speaker 1: for it on for it down, and that that conservatives
Speaker 1: and bothers me. But he's such a good coach, and
Speaker 1: I think he had a feel for that game. The
Speaker 1: Bucks had the ball eight times in the second half
Speaker 1: and they got a hundred and thirteen yards. Then for
Speaker 1: the fourth the third quarter, they didn't move the ball
Speaker 1: at all. I think he trusted his defense, and that's
Speaker 1: a credit to why I think one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I think Sean McVeigh is such a good coach.
Speaker 1: Like ont a night where the number one running game
Speaker 1: in the league couldn't do anything. They were able to
Speaker 1: win throwing the ball. After a season where they go
Speaker 1: nine and seven, which felt like everything's going terrible for
Speaker 1: the Rams, they bring back the same exact offensive line
Speaker 1: everyone hated their fine and he changes their defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: from an all time legend who brought them to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to a guy no one ever heard of,
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley. And that's like the most important thing a
Speaker 1: coach can do is is hiring a good coaching staff.
Speaker 1: And Staley has made all the difference. And you saw
Speaker 1: it last night, the fact that they've shut down the
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Bucks and back to back week Staley
Speaker 1: has been Uh he's a candidate mark for eurod Award
Speaker 1: Coordinator of the Year. Little Brandon Staley love, I think
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, this is a Rams defense that's
Speaker 1: given up nineteen or fewer points in six games. Uh.
Speaker 1: We keep talking about the Bucks. This one of the
Speaker 1: difference making defenses. Well, the Rams are right there, and
Speaker 1: you know, I look at Bruce arians the whole Bucks thing.
Speaker 1: Do agree with Colleen sort of a week to week thing,
Speaker 1: And I think I feel the same way as a person,
Speaker 1: But you don't want to feel that way. About a
Speaker 1: football team that we were, you know, projecting to the
Speaker 1: NFC title game. And I look at Bruce Arians. You've
Speaker 1: been uh swept uh in Tampa Bay this season by uh,
Speaker 1: you know, by the by the Saints. Okay, you've been
Speaker 1: You've been beaten by Sean McVeigh. Is this a difference
Speaker 1: making coach? UM? I love Bruce Arians. I've always sort
Speaker 1: of adored his upfront nature and in the way that
Speaker 1: he calls players out. He called Tom Brady out today
Speaker 1: for maybe just sort of not being all there with
Speaker 1: his reads and in the way he's seeing the field.
Speaker 1: And Fuller said that on the second pick, all he
Speaker 1: did was watch Brady's eyes. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: to make of all of it. Um. On the on
Speaker 1: the Bucks offensive side, Uh, we are in deep November
Speaker 1: and they're talking about the fact that they're still sort
Speaker 1: of warming up and figuring out who they are. UM,
Speaker 1: I'd be concerned. This feels like a team that could
Speaker 1: be picked off, UM in the playoffs. I just I
Speaker 1: don't project them to the super Bowl at any point
Speaker 1: at this I think they will get there. Here's the concern.
Speaker 1: If you're a Bucks fans. Bucks fan, did you peak
Speaker 1: because a month ago they looked absolutely unstoppable, and it
Speaker 1: did cross my mind at the times, like things are
Speaker 1: going so perfectly for this time, for this team right now,
Speaker 1: and everyone's in love with them and they're playing so well.
Speaker 1: But it was the end of October, and it's like,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when you hit a valley? Are you
Speaker 1: able to climb out of it? That's that's where they
Speaker 1: are now. I just sometimes I have doubts, just like
Speaker 1: I did at the end of Brady's Patriots career, where
Speaker 1: when the competition steps up and you have a fast,
Speaker 1: ferocious defense like the Rams, for instance, he just starts
Speaker 1: to look a little bit old. And I thought he
Speaker 1: looked old in this game. Some of the plays there
Speaker 1: was a throw. I know London Fournet dropped a bunch
Speaker 1: of passes, but I think the last drop he had
Speaker 1: was when Brady essentially was seeing ghosts in the pocket
Speaker 1: and just fired a screen past the Fournett near as
Speaker 1: shins Uh and you know, getting rid of the ball
Speaker 1: before before he would have liked to, I think led
Speaker 1: to that first really grim interception. So they're interesting and
Speaker 1: and gret and Mark you should know that I was
Speaker 1: on the NFL Now with Andrew Siciliano this morning, and
Speaker 1: he made a point to bring you up by name
Speaker 1: and say you know some people I don't want to
Speaker 1: say who, and then he said Mark Sessler, Uh, don't
Speaker 1: seem to give the Rams any respect or love. Well
Speaker 1: how about now? And you yourself said Mark on Thursday's
Speaker 1: preview podcast that you needed to see the Rams deliver
Speaker 1: a big performance against the Bucks. Well they did. Are
Speaker 1: you in now on the l A Rams? Well, whatever
Speaker 1: it takes to get on, you know, are the network
Speaker 1: that I'm employed by, but doesn't UM seem to want
Speaker 1: me on there too often. I'll take whatever whatever I
Speaker 1: can get, but I will say that I will say
Speaker 1: this like, um, yes, yes, because the Rams they've had
Speaker 1: a couple of losses that leave me questioning their d NA,
Speaker 1: who they are, what they're seeling is UM. I have
Speaker 1: questions about every NFC team though there's no perfect team
Speaker 1: in the NFC, so they're one of those imperfect operations.
Speaker 1: But that said, to go out and do what they
Speaker 1: did last um, and you saw a better version of
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. And when they're wide receivers are operating the
Speaker 1: way they were. Uh, you see that you see the potential,
Speaker 1: so I'm not ruling them out in order. I have
Speaker 1: this innate dislike for the team based on the film
Speaker 1: I'm watching. It's more the fact that, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get it's it's the it's that I am told
Speaker 1: that I must be pro Rams no matter what I think.
Speaker 1: That this is in your own head, voices in your head.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm disgusting. You know what I'm discussing
Speaker 1: That were propaganda by liking the Rams. That's not true.
Speaker 1: You feel that kind? Do you feel that because we're
Speaker 1: gonna you know, we're gonna be I know what you're
Speaker 1: all going to say, you're only doing you don't feel it.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that before ever, never once? You know what,
Speaker 1: when you got when I'm working for like um Pact,
Speaker 1: like the PAC twelve conferences, like blogging website, you will
Speaker 1: know that I'm right UM one and a shout out
Speaker 1: to Jared Goff as well. Without his left tackle, without
Speaker 1: a running game, Uh, this you would think could be
Speaker 1: the set up where the Tampa Bay Bucks would torment
Speaker 1: him and he didn't have a perfect game. Intercept Colleen
Speaker 1: alluded to it wasn't a perfect game but he did
Speaker 1: throw for over three to night yards. He moved the ball,
Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup and Robert Woods combined for twenty three catches.
Speaker 1: They were the first teammates and Rams history to both
Speaker 1: have at least ten catches in a game. It was
Speaker 1: just a really really good night uh for the Rams,
Speaker 1: and really a great two weeks because forget that narrative
Speaker 1: that was in place there Greg when people are saying, Ah,
Speaker 1: the Rams, I know their records good, but they swept
Speaker 1: the NFC East and they have a couple of losses
Speaker 1: against good teams. Can't say that anymore after what's happened
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Uh. And now the Bucks, well, they're
Speaker 1: very complete. I don't think I I do worry about
Speaker 1: them being able to keep up in a shootout like
Speaker 1: last night. They should have put that game away. Their
Speaker 1: defense really uh kept them ahead, but the the offense
Speaker 1: kept trying to let the Bucks back in. That could
Speaker 1: be a problem in the playofs. But they're very complete
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Whereas the Bucks are
Speaker 1: like before we move on, like the team they remind
Speaker 1: me of the most is the two thousand nineteen Bucks,
Speaker 1: which gets back to Mark's point, which is if you
Speaker 1: really watch the Bucks last year, every game they would
Speaker 1: have two to three quarters sometimes stretches where they look
Speaker 1: like world beaters, and then it would all fall apart.
Speaker 1: And the defense is definitely better lot this year, and
Speaker 1: they played well enough last night to win. I thought
Speaker 1: the Bucks defense, But that's been the case with this
Speaker 1: Bucks team throughout. And you do wonder if, like, look
Speaker 1: Brady throwing deep twenty times in the last three weeks
Speaker 1: and not complaining one of them. At some point you
Speaker 1: gotta think, like, is this is this the right approach?
Speaker 1: Where's Chris Godwin? Like you would think Chris Godwin and
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown throwing short? Uh? That would worked with Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: Like having Tom Brady with a running back with no
Speaker 1: running box backs that can catch the pass. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like having Mark Sessler on a Sunday
Speaker 1: without a Browns game to to make them crazy. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense for us doing this podcast while
Speaker 1: Mark is working for the Pack twelve. It wouldn't feel
Speaker 1: we don't we don't want that, all right, Wait one
Speaker 1: more thing really quick, Um, Mike Evans touchdown. I feel
Speaker 1: like we just have to give that a shout out.
Speaker 1: When he dragged like multiple dudes into the end zone,
Speaker 1: would not be denied. That was like superhero stuff. He's
Speaker 1: so strong. I don't know how he does it. I
Speaker 1: think I speak for Mark not impressed. No, I am
Speaker 1: not really impressed by that impressed athletic move. You're cletely
Speaker 1: unimpressed by his physical There there a value add these bucks.
Speaker 1: They're entertaining. Whether they're good or bad. They bring a
Speaker 1: lot to this season. We needed it. I will be
Speaker 1: canceled by the end of the show, So everything's fine.
Speaker 1: It did absolutely nothing for me. I did nothing, all right,
Speaker 1: didn't move the needle. That's fine. Moving on, Oh, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Somebody in Club Dug does Chris Westling locked
Speaker 1: up the Rams against Tom Brady and shocking development, the
Speaker 1: Rams pulled it off. What a what a waste? Because
Speaker 1: the Great Chris Wesling hates clubs. So he's gonna come
Speaker 1: in there and he's gonna leave within ten minutes. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good to see. Maybe I can buy
Speaker 1: him a beer or something. He's not getting bottle service.
Speaker 1: Best lack of the year. I mean, that's a heavy underdog.
Speaker 1: That's a that's calling your shot. That's good. Well, he
Speaker 1: also had to make a lock like hours into Sunday's action,
Speaker 1: so he was left without, you know, a bevy of choices.
Speaker 1: But but but a nice luck. All right, Let's now
Speaker 1: move on and pivot quickly, lady and gentlemen to Thursday
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving three games. How about that. It's tradition. Let's jump
Speaker 1: right into it. Texans at Lions, and you know, you know, Colleen,
Speaker 1: they couldn't even the Lions have been such a disappointment,
Speaker 1: both to the people of Michigan and surrounding territories and
Speaker 1: people that cover the league that just want things to
Speaker 1: be fun up in Detroit because it's been so long.
Speaker 1: We had thought on this podcast that the Lines would
Speaker 1: at least beat the Panthers in Week eleven and then
Speaker 1: go into this game with a real sense that they
Speaker 1: could like get into the playoff mix properly with a
Speaker 1: win against the Texans. But they didn't give us that
Speaker 1: by getting shut out by Carolina. It's it's so disappointing
Speaker 1: because I keep believing in them for some reason. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm in an abusive relationship with the Lions,
Speaker 1: because like they just keep doing the same exact thing,
Speaker 1: and I keep expecting them to actually show some signs
Speaker 1: of life. And obviously it's a tough setch right now
Speaker 1: for the Lions. They're coming off the twenty to nothing loss,
Speaker 1: and I mean the Lions defense couldn't stop former xfl
Speaker 1: ace P J. Walker and his first start like that
Speaker 1: cannot happen. Also, you know you have that staffords them
Speaker 1: is obviously an issue. And now it's just a couple
Speaker 1: of days removed from that game. How much better is
Speaker 1: it even going to be? Plus they're dealing with a
Speaker 1: lot of key injuries with their playmakers. I mean, they
Speaker 1: seriously have missed Kenny Golladay. There's a chance that he
Speaker 1: returns on Thursday, but Danny A. Mendola and DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 1: I'm not like DeAndre Stift to steal in concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: So they have a lot of issues going on, and
Speaker 1: they're going up against the Texans defense that allows over
Speaker 1: four hundred yards per game. So someone's gonna get right here.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not sure which who's going to be,
Speaker 1: And I guess it's going to be the Texans because
Speaker 1: I can't keep taking the Lions. They got no juice.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I don't know what the fan
Speaker 1: situation is gonna be there in Detroit, um, but what
Speaker 1: a what a dead atmosphere. Uh, it would be in
Speaker 1: theory for this team because they're just a dead team.
Speaker 1: They had one quarterback hit last week on p J. Walker,
Speaker 1: you know, so that's Matt Patricia's defense. And then when
Speaker 1: you're right when they take away Golladay and Swift, that
Speaker 1: that's all the juice they have. We're on the other side.
Speaker 1: You got Deshaun Watson, who I who would be in
Speaker 1: my top five quarterbacks in the NFL this year? I
Speaker 1: would I would put him behind kind of the three
Speaker 1: m VP candidates everyone's now kind of circling as the
Speaker 1: biggest ones, which would be Wilson, Mahomes, and Rogers. I
Speaker 1: would put Josh Allen fourth, and I would put Watson five.
Speaker 1: And he's coming off one of the best games of
Speaker 1: his career against the defense the Patriots, who has a
Speaker 1: lot of similar DNA in terms of how they want
Speaker 1: to try to stop Watson, and he's one of the
Speaker 1: hardest ones to scheme against because they now since O'Brien left,
Speaker 1: he's suddenly running way more, much much more. I think
Speaker 1: that's I think that has to do with Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: leaving that they decided this, you know, please scramble some more. Um.
Speaker 1: But he's still such a good pocket quarterback. He's been
Speaker 1: so accurate, so I expect a lot of points, especially
Speaker 1: if goladays back, which at least make this thing watchable.
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, you mentioned the fifty two yard flea
Speaker 1: flicker that Detroit scored against Carolina. That would have made
Speaker 1: that game, um, somewhat you know, watchable early on it
Speaker 1: was called back by penalty. The Lions had no answer
Speaker 1: for that. They never came back and and hunched Carolina
Speaker 1: in the face, um, in the mouth. On any level,
Speaker 1: I find this to be, unfortunately, a game of zero consequence.
Speaker 1: The Texans are fun to watch, but the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: have become synonymous with crappy early game on Thanksgiving that
Speaker 1: they continue to call a tradition. Uh, some traditions should
Speaker 1: be canceled. We've canceled a lot of traditions. They've given
Speaker 1: us some good games though, in fairness to them, and
Speaker 1: one of them and they were and they've been called
Speaker 1: David Blow was David Black. You get David Blow in there,
Speaker 1: but you know if it's alone on this island. Last year,
Speaker 1: didn't I broach very lightly the idea of taking the
Speaker 1: Lions off Thanksgiving? And you did this? Yeah, why do
Speaker 1: they have? You know? Well, it's either it's you've got
Speaker 1: the Dominican sue stomping match shop in a terrible area,
Speaker 1: or you've got nothing. They have no identity, so I don't. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a slight disgrace that this game will
Speaker 1: occur on a national television scale. Um, But we'll deal
Speaker 1: with it and there will be two better games after.
Speaker 1: This is why the theory it doesn't work that they're
Speaker 1: mark excited for the early game on Thanksgiving. This is
Speaker 1: why it does not work. Park Scessler today that no,
Speaker 1: I just it was like a while frankly, so we know. No,
Speaker 1: you know what, I always like, I peer at the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving slate, you know before, kind of like ten days before,
Speaker 1: and the minute I saw this, I just thought, you're
Speaker 1: wasting three hours of my time. So okay, So Greg,
Speaker 1: you say the reason for keeping the Lions on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: is they don't have anything else. Okay, The Lions are
Speaker 1: one of the have nots of the league, and they've
Speaker 1: been that way for a long time. But they're not alone.
Speaker 1: So if we're really going to turn this into charity,
Speaker 1: why not just rotate that game with all the havenots.
Speaker 1: I don't know they stepped up at I there is
Speaker 1: a reason to it. But at some point in the
Speaker 1: like fifties or seventies, you know, I sound stupid here,
Speaker 1: they stepped up and they said we'll take it. We'll
Speaker 1: do that game decades. They've had it for a while. Forties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Lines have played eighty games on Thanksgiving their thirty
Speaker 1: seven forty one and it's a family tradition. You're trying
Speaker 1: to take that away from the Patrick's. They don't have
Speaker 1: the freelance, know, they don't have anything else to game? Wait,
Speaker 1: why don't the Patras and the freelance have anything else?
Speaker 1: I'm saying identifying who they are, I'm saying the Lions
Speaker 1: don't give them much joy, but it's a family tradition.
Speaker 1: You go to the Lions game. They actually have a
Speaker 1: good record on Thanksgiving. You know. Game two. Let's move
Speaker 1: on before Cessler's head explodes. Cessler, this is a good
Speaker 1: one for you. Wait, Colleen, I know you're you're doing
Speaker 1: Are you doing any Thanksgiving work this week. If no,
Speaker 1: you're not actually, because I was gonna say you could
Speaker 1: steal You could steal some of those lines in analysis
Speaker 1: from Sessler for for the Network on Thursday. But I
Speaker 1: guess that I don't play well. Come join me at
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. It's a vibrant operation up Max Washington
Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys. All right, the Cowboys play a
Speaker 1: lot of Thanksgiving games too, but I've always enjoyed the
Speaker 1: Cowboys a little more popping circumstance. Creed played halftime once
Speaker 1: at what else needs to be said? So here's a
Speaker 1: game I've now. I've turned the corner on the NFC East.
Speaker 1: I embraced the chaos and how disgusting it is. It's
Speaker 1: probably harder if you're a fan of one of those
Speaker 1: teams like a Connie Fox, like a tiny box. But
Speaker 1: for for me, I love it. And this is why
Speaker 1: I love it. Colleen Angelo, Yeah, I get it. I
Speaker 1: I now think the Cowboys are gonna win the division.
Speaker 1: Last week, I thought the Giants are gonna win the division.
Speaker 1: The week before that, I thought the Eagles are gonna
Speaker 1: win the division. So there's there's something beautiful to that
Speaker 1: level of anarchy where it's almost impossible, as a quote
Speaker 1: unquote analyst to have like a take that less more
Speaker 1: than two weeks. I don't know if I would describe
Speaker 1: the NFC East as like a beauty a full thing. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty ugly. Like the winner of this game
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving will be the first team to reach four
Speaker 1: wins in the division to take the lead. I mean
Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. And it's all on
Speaker 1: the shoulders of Alex Smith and Andy Dalton, Like what
Speaker 1: what year is this is? How? How is this the thing? And? Uh?
Speaker 1: Something to watch here. Terry McLaurin and Antonio Gibson they
Speaker 1: both had injury designations on like the Monday estimation practice report.
Speaker 1: Now that could also just be a maintenance day for them,
Speaker 1: so it's just something to watch. But Terry McLaurin obviously
Speaker 1: is super underrated. Um, I feel like he's just kind
Speaker 1: of stuck in this Washington purgatory and maybe maybe if
Speaker 1: he has a good game here, he'll get some of
Speaker 1: the love he deserves. But it's all about that that
Speaker 1: Washington pass rush. They were all over the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: that first game earlier in the year. Now, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: didn't have Zach Martin for that game, and he looked up.
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good it in the role that they
Speaker 1: put him in last week against the Vikings. I mean,
Speaker 1: he bounced from guard to right tackle and didn't allow
Speaker 1: a sack. But the Washington pass rush is a lot
Speaker 1: different than the Vikings pass rush. I don't I can't
Speaker 1: um consistently expect the Cowboys they to have nice things, though, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It feels like they're the better team here.
Speaker 1: Their their defense is legit played well for three weeks,
Speaker 1: and I include that Vikings game. The Vikings are a
Speaker 1: really good offense and they got enough stops there to
Speaker 1: win the game. And Randy Gregory's at it a lot.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence kind of has a stretch every year where
Speaker 1: he looks like one of the best players in league.
Speaker 1: And he's like in that stretch. And yet right when
Speaker 1: you think that the Cowboys are gonna turn the corner,
Speaker 1: that's when they rip your heart out. If you're a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. And I think this Washington team is frisky.
Speaker 1: I think they've been a little watchable. I think Alex
Speaker 1: Smith's been I just I don't mind watching them because
Speaker 1: I think they're getting what they can out of what
Speaker 1: they have, especially on offense. I think they're pretty well coached.
Speaker 1: I think Alex Smith has played well. People are kind
Speaker 1: of like condescending and how they think he's played. I
Speaker 1: think he's played like you would expect aux Fit to play.
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, yeah, he's been nice, but no
Speaker 1: one thinks he's good. He's pushed now, No, no, not
Speaker 1: at all. I mean he's not. Let's let's calm down that.
Speaker 1: I know you've been hitting this bang of this drum
Speaker 1: that everybody's being condescending with Alex Smith. But he's not
Speaker 1: a special player either. I mean there's a way that
Speaker 1: he's He's right. He he just looks like an NFL quarterback, though,
Speaker 1: so does any Dalton. I mean, they're they're similar, they've
Speaker 1: they've been he looks like an NFL quarterback. I didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily expect that, and I think it gives them a
Speaker 1: chance to win because they do have some dudes that
Speaker 1: are fun. Antonio Gibson is so fun to watch. It
Speaker 1: would be great if he had sort of a breakout game.
Speaker 1: You would never know that he's playing running back as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver because He's a truck that just carries
Speaker 1: people along each week, and I just feel like, I
Speaker 1: can you know you were saying you picked a different
Speaker 1: team each week, Dan, I feel like maybe after this game,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be picking the Washington football team because I
Speaker 1: kind of like him in this. They're the last team
Speaker 1: on my bingo card for the NFC East, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Let me let me say this. Let me say this.
Speaker 1: I kind of enjoyed as chaotic as the locking up
Speaker 1: the Saints. So I was last week and being all
Speaker 1: bored of the Jamison Express and then ending up on
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and that working out. I like being in
Speaker 1: the eye of the hurricane at the NFL right now
Speaker 1: when it comes to locks of the week and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get behind the Dallas Cowboys is I understand this
Speaker 1: could backfire terribly, but I really liked what I saw
Speaker 1: from their offense and I think that will carry the
Speaker 1: day here. They're going to continue to score points. And
Speaker 1: that's why I lock up America's team o Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: it gives me another thing to root for or being
Speaker 1: a bad mood about what it's time to carve the turkey. Well,
Speaker 1: look at this shammers to turkeys this week something. Do
Speaker 1: you know? You often have locks that I find unrewarding, Dan,
Speaker 1: But Um, I would say the last two that you've
Speaker 1: unfurled on us to quite um delight. This one is
Speaker 1: this having entertain You know, I like this, I like
Speaker 1: and and I called the last game that we discussed
Speaker 1: a game of no consequence. Um. You would think the
Speaker 1: two teams that are three and seven, UH can't offer
Speaker 1: much more. But this game has tremendous consequence. Because I've
Speaker 1: said all along and I'm sticking to this, I don't
Speaker 1: care which one of the four teams on the Bingo
Speaker 1: card win the division. They will win a playoff game.
Speaker 1: So it's just deciding which teams some high fire UM
Speaker 1: is gonna tumble to in January in total disgrace and
Speaker 1: go into an offseason with a billion questions. So I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see who wins this, UM, I would say,
Speaker 1: I would I would say you should all just check
Speaker 1: out let Mark do two hours on the state of
Speaker 1: pro football. No, I just think I'm with you, Dan.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas has the most life energy right now.
Speaker 1: The Giants I would put second. Um, I would put
Speaker 1: Washington third, and I and and I'm sorry, Colleen, I
Speaker 1: think I cut you. Probably you kind of agree with
Speaker 1: me that the Eagles are an eyesore and like they
Speaker 1: needed to go be Eveland in a game where they
Speaker 1: could have won. Um, they just simply can't get it done.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that winning a division, um, if
Speaker 1: you're Philadelphia, has any it makes any sense at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer deeper questions every game now. When I
Speaker 1: turn on the Eagles, I just feel emotionless, and it's
Speaker 1: it's just a chore that I have to do and
Speaker 1: there's no way around it. It just needs to get done.
Speaker 1: And so it's more of like just enduring the Eagles,
Speaker 1: uh and and just waiting for what I expect to
Speaker 1: be the result. Every week. I can I can relate
Speaker 1: to that, and I can totally relate to that. Hey,
Speaker 1: um and using the Bingo card analogy, don't be surprised
Speaker 1: when the free square in the middle somehow wins the
Speaker 1: NFC East. I'm going Giants a home game in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Mark Blumbo wins the NFC East, All right, let's let's yeah,
Speaker 1: let's pick the NFC East winner. You've got Giants, Gregg,
Speaker 1: I'll take Cowboys, Connie, you gonna ride or die of
Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Eagles, Eagles, Let's go and Sizzler, what
Speaker 1: would you pick again? Dallas, Dallas? All right, let's see
Speaker 1: what happens, all right, the late game, and this one is, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: in a COVID nineteen world, a lot up in the air.
Speaker 1: As we record on Tuesday, early afternoon on the West coast,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens Ravens traveling to Hines Field to face
Speaker 1: the undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers. It should be a great game, um,
Speaker 1: featuring a as I said, undefeated Tenano Steelers team that
Speaker 1: is really uh playing excellent on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: and then a Ravens team that's been one of the
Speaker 1: disappointments of the a f C of this season and
Speaker 1: they are in desperate need of a win. So they
Speaker 1: got a bit of a cornered animal Game five going
Speaker 1: on here. And yet Greg uh with the news early
Speaker 1: this week about various COVID nineteen list designations, You don't
Speaker 1: know what version of the Ravens we're gonna see, or
Speaker 1: if we're gonna see anything at all. Yeah, right now,
Speaker 1: the game's still scheduled. We we do you know, um,
Speaker 1: the two running backs j K j K. Dobbins, who's
Speaker 1: coming off his best game, and mark ingram are are
Speaker 1: on the COVI list. We don't know who the other
Speaker 1: players are that tested positive, but the you're just kind
Speaker 1: of wondering what's left of the Ravens. I was totally
Speaker 1: planning to take the Ravens in this game, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of like because it just feels like, like
Speaker 1: you said, cornered animal. And the first half of that
Speaker 1: Ravens Steelers game was the most surprising first half that
Speaker 1: I've seen any two teams play all year. The Ravens
Speaker 1: made the Steelers look like the Jets. It's it was.
Speaker 1: It was amazing, but they didn't take advantage enough on
Speaker 1: the scoreboard and they end up blowing that game. And
Speaker 1: you think about that game, and you think about the
Speaker 1: Titans game where they had a big lead. The kind
Speaker 1: of the last thing the Ravens had left, um is that, Okay,
Speaker 1: they played great with the lead, and now they don't
Speaker 1: even have that left. They don't have their two guys
Speaker 1: in the middle of their in their defensive line, they
Speaker 1: don't have a great offensive line, and now they can't
Speaker 1: even hold leads. Like, if they can't hold leads, what
Speaker 1: do they have? So it is hard to picked them.
Speaker 1: Here you're going full died oh here, Rosenthal, because you're
Speaker 1: going down with this ship. Two weeks ago, I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I think that close, but I'm taking the
Speaker 1: Steelers win. It's just too I'm just gonna say, two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, you have the Ravens is the number one,
Speaker 1: number two team in football. So there's there's doubt creeping
Speaker 1: in for a lot of people that definitely banked big
Speaker 1: on the Ravens entering well, they are different quickly. Just
Speaker 1: they are a very different team than when they played
Speaker 1: in Week eight. If you think about it, they've lost
Speaker 1: those running backs, they've lost two offensive linemen, they've lost
Speaker 1: their blocking tight end. So on top of them being disappointed,
Speaker 1: they're like different. Along with the COVID stuff, it just
Speaker 1: feels like to the whole the Ravens offensive line is
Speaker 1: just a liability for this offense and that sort of
Speaker 1: is the place where all of their issues I feel like,
Speaker 1: really stems from because the offense hasn't looked the same
Speaker 1: and obviously it's no coincidence that you come into the
Speaker 1: year without Marshal Yanda, and then you lose Ronnie Stanley
Speaker 1: and it feels like things really went downhill after that,
Speaker 1: and you think of out the way that Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: looked Week eight. I mean four total turnovers in that game,
Speaker 1: two interceptions, two fumbles. Things obviously just have not been
Speaker 1: going the same way for them on offense. And then
Speaker 1: as you mentioned on defense, there Brandon Williams, I mean
Speaker 1: he was he's on the COVID list now because of
Speaker 1: close contact and Klaas Campbell he didn't practice on the
Speaker 1: Monday estimation practice report. So if they don't have those
Speaker 1: two guys again, their defense looks completely different too. I
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more with the fact that you point the
Speaker 1: offensive line out. I mean, this entire offense is built
Speaker 1: around the concept of a dominating offensive line, and um,
Speaker 1: what they're missing this year. I mean, we Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: had his best game last week, but they have not
Speaker 1: had the Mark Andrews of last year. They have they
Speaker 1: are down, Nick Boyle. Their tight end group um is
Speaker 1: not a strength the way it was a season ago.
Speaker 1: So you so they're just not able to function um
Speaker 1: the way that a team that won fourteen and two
Speaker 1: uh last season and and I I would question a
Speaker 1: little bit. I've never I would never say this about
Speaker 1: the Ravens historically because I think that their DNA is toughness. Uh,
Speaker 1: they will beat you up, and they were beaten up
Speaker 1: by the Titans. We talked about the A. J. Brown
Speaker 1: play on on Sunday. I mean, just you know, breaking tackles,
Speaker 1: ripping through Ravens defenders. And I was because I think
Speaker 1: I have a similar play to them, Mike Evans play.
Speaker 1: So you know, that was impressive. And I think two times,
Speaker 1: two games in a row, the Titans embarrassed the Ravens
Speaker 1: physically and something out of you. Mark, I have a
Speaker 1: question for you. All right, let's think post vaccine world.
Speaker 1: You get the two shots. Okay, you get the shot,
Speaker 1: you go into quarantine for two weeks to get the
Speaker 1: booster shot, and guess what you're in the majority in
Speaker 1: terms of uh, your defense, your immune system. Now you
Speaker 1: go have fun society that they roll it out great
Speaker 1: the vaccine and now everyone's having fun again. They start
Speaker 1: rolling sporting events back, they start rolling live music back.
Speaker 1: And I have it. I have an option for you.
Speaker 1: I have a ticket. I have three tickets. Okay, your
Speaker 1: first post Pandemic Concert. Okay, and it's all as Keith
Speaker 1: Hansas would say. Everything's on the arm, the tickets, free,
Speaker 1: open bar, the little food that you like, ramen, all there,
Speaker 1: and one of these three artists, Dido, Dido has got
Speaker 1: some great songs we love. Dido's got some great songs,
Speaker 1: got great songs we love Ido. And yeah, and your
Speaker 1: choice too. Choice three Little Debbie Post Pandemic Comeback Concert,
Speaker 1: you can own. Only pick one. Died out a zero
Speaker 1: factor in this. The other two concern me. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that Little Debbie and Colleen are different people, so
Speaker 1: I'd need to explore that topic a bit. Um, How
Speaker 1: could I not pick any? Like it would probably be
Speaker 1: at like like on the the roaming front lawn of
Speaker 1: Enya's castle. Um, you know you'd bring up, you'd bring
Speaker 1: a few tasty treats with you, maybe some drinks and
Speaker 1: like you're listening to Enya in like Ireland with the
Speaker 1: sea before you I go in. You don't know, you
Speaker 1: don't know, and you couldn't show up on your podcast
Speaker 1: and St. Lucia oh um, post Pandemic needs a little St.
Speaker 1: Lucia vibe, so that I'd have to think about that
Speaker 1: and get back to you on that one. I would
Speaker 1: love to see. I just have this image of Mark
Speaker 1: and a surprisingly aggressive Enya mosh pit in front of
Speaker 1: a castle coats of like Limerick. I think your mom
Speaker 1: would be there. She's a big en your fan. Deb
Speaker 1: loves Enya. That's the one thing. Um, All right, there
Speaker 1: you go. That's Thursday. That's Thanksgiving action. And just a reminder,
Speaker 1: so we just preview three games because of the holiday
Speaker 1: here in the state. It's our schedules a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Our preview episode where we preview the rest of the
Speaker 1: week twelve games that will go up Friday, um, late
Speaker 1: afternoon here in excuse me Friday, hopefully early afternoon here
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, late afternoon on the East Coast,
Speaker 1: and morning time overseas in the UK and surrounding areas.
Speaker 1: So look for that. And yes, also the NFL Network
Speaker 1: program will air on Saturday morning, UH previewing all our
Speaker 1: UH takes on week twelve. All right, before we get
Speaker 1: the weakest link talk, I want to just I want
Speaker 1: to check in here, um, Connie and the boys on
Speaker 1: the hot Butt Power rankings. Now, everybody knows the old
Speaker 1: zuser is right in the NFL dot Com Power rankings.
Speaker 1: But I also have kicker power rankings, which have a
Speaker 1: really um, really passionate audience. And I have butt power rankings. Okay,
Speaker 1: and and and it's not the type of but you
Speaker 1: thinking of. It's not in a listit thing. It's about
Speaker 1: which coaches have job security and which coaches don't. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him into categories first, categories, the biggest one.
Speaker 1: It's the one you want to be in, the biggest button,
Speaker 1: the biggest butt. Uh. This category I labeled untouchable. Can't
Speaker 1: touch his butt a k A freezing butts, but in
Speaker 1: a good way, a real good way. Here we go,
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Brian Flores, and please, after you hear these names,
Speaker 1: jump in if you think any of these coaches are
Speaker 1: even in the slightest bit of danger. With six games
Speaker 1: to play for most teams in the NFL season, McDermott, Flores, Belichick, Tomlin, Stefanski,
Speaker 1: how about that. I don't think anything can get that
Speaker 1: guy fired, even with that organization involved in Cleveland. John Harbaugh,
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, Rabel, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, Ron Rivera, the
Speaker 1: Bearded Boy, Matt Lafleur, Mike Zimmer, Sean Payton, Mattie Rule,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, Pete Carroll, Cliff Kingsbury, and Kyle Shanahan. I
Speaker 1: think everybody in the NFC West is completely safe those
Speaker 1: of the nineteen. Anybody that you think aren't absolutely lock
Speaker 1: lock it up safe out of that group, no debate,
Speaker 1: Well done, Okay, So keep in mind. Also, we've already
Speaker 1: had two guys get canned. We lost Bob Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn. And in my past studies of the
Speaker 1: hot butts um, usually on any given any given black
Speaker 1: Um Sunday or what is it, black Monday, we end
Speaker 1: up firing our league four to eight head coaches, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna right, yeah, it's it's eight is a full
Speaker 1: quarter of the league, which is just bonkers to think
Speaker 1: about it. We're gonna be potentially in that area because
Speaker 1: here's the category I put is probably safe. I'm not.
Speaker 1: It's not for certain Bruce Arians who just missed the
Speaker 1: cut for me, but I think he's probably safe, and
Speaker 1: maybe recency bias for what happened Monday night is why
Speaker 1: he's on this list, but he's there for me. Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor probably safe. Doug Peterson probably safe and Joe Judge
Speaker 1: probably safe. I have judged theirs. I didn't like some
Speaker 1: of the reporting out in New York around this Mark
Speaker 1: Columbo situation, and that he's rubbing people the wrong way.
Speaker 1: And if the giants flamed out and and things are
Speaker 1: really ugly behind the scenes, could that lead to a
Speaker 1: one and done scenario. I think Judge should be in
Speaker 1: the locks because I think the organization loves him, and
Speaker 1: I think they think these little ferrets talking to the
Speaker 1: media are are the enemy, so and and and they've
Speaker 1: been pretty well coached, so I think he'd be totally safe.
Speaker 1: Arians is an interesting one. This is probably the right
Speaker 1: category because to me, he could almost be like a
Speaker 1: surprise retirement out of nowhere, you know, just based on
Speaker 1: his his recent past too. I feel like Arians isn't
Speaker 1: he should he should be, he should see this Brady
Speaker 1: thing through. But you're right, what if it went totally
Speaker 1: crazy ugly? Brady is uh guaranteed money into next year,
Speaker 1: his his whole salary next year. Because Peterson is interesting,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. I think Peterson like the one
Speaker 1: thing that seems to happen when you get to the
Speaker 1: point where and look at he's got a super Bowl ring,
Speaker 1: so like he's piste off, he's annoyed the credibility like
Speaker 1: peple like feel like I'm sorry, but I feel like
Speaker 1: Philly fans have basically forgotten about the super Bowl at
Speaker 1: this point and everyone attached to it. Um, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure Carson Wentz is the quarterback next year despite the
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, or at least could be in a competition.
Speaker 1: And Doug Peterson, you know what I see popping up
Speaker 1: on my Twitter timeline is this? I think it's like
Speaker 1: Credential or something where it's like Doug Peterson knows how
Speaker 1: to invest, you should do the same. And it's like
Speaker 1: the comments um off of these promoted tweets. I think
Speaker 1: it's like Credential insurance or it's some insurance company. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. It's it comes up every Monday morning, every
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, and it is getting flamed and it's like
Speaker 1: he has lost his buy in and poor timing on
Speaker 1: ads and reads like what happened at w I P
Speaker 1: Connie's all old gig? Why is everything connected to dud Pieterson?
Speaker 1: Ill timed? It's very ill timed. Well, he's about the book, right,
Speaker 1: now you know the book is an ill time party
Speaker 1: to Mark, it was a little about Frank, the real
Speaker 1: brains behind the operation. I just I don't need coach biographies,
Speaker 1: um like two years into the job. Like, give it
Speaker 1: to me with some with a story to tell. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about this Devil's advocate here? I'm with you. Mostly
Speaker 1: the fact that David Tyree wrote a book is everything
Speaker 1: you need to know. But what if Kevin Stefanski takes
Speaker 1: the Browns to the super Bowl next year? You're buying
Speaker 1: that book leader, Leadership and glory. The Kevin Stefanski story copies.
Speaker 1: They can't get on the guy can't do it all. Right,
Speaker 1: now let's move on. Now we get into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a legitimate danger zone here. Uh this is
Speaker 1: I call, and that's the sound you don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: Butts are starting to warm up, Mike McCarthy. I think McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you could say eggs should be a tear higher. But also,
Speaker 1: let's say the Cowboys do Go three and thirteen, and
Speaker 1: this discension behind the scenes continues to pop up, and
Speaker 1: we get a seth worker sham explosive story that comes
Speaker 1: out in December. At some point I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just it's something to track. Then you have Vic Foggio.
Speaker 1: Just keep an eye on Vic because Vick are you there?
Speaker 1: And I need to hear Vix but sizzling, Ricky? Do
Speaker 1: we do? We really need to hear that? Right? It's
Speaker 1: like you know, dandemic and Thanksgiving week? Yeah, well listen,
Speaker 1: this is the yin and the yang. Vic Foggio always
Speaker 1: gonna look the point some fingers if he has to,
Speaker 1: So it could be Foggio that bites it. Uh, Anthony Lynn,
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about that. He needs probably a
Speaker 1: strong finish, I think to guarantee that he comes back.
Speaker 1: And then Matt Naggy with the Bears. I put him
Speaker 1: at fifty fifty. Uh, what do you guys think about that?
Speaker 1: Who was the first one? I think McCarthy is way
Speaker 1: safer than that. I would maybe flip him in Zac
Speaker 1: Taylor if I if there's some reports that a Cincinnati
Speaker 1: in terms of some turmoil behind the scenes with that
Speaker 1: coaching staff, um, that would be concerned. I think when
Speaker 1: when does Jerry Jones go one and done? Like he's
Speaker 1: hired a lot of bad Cowboys coaches with a lot
Speaker 1: of bad records, not just Garrett, and he sticks with them,
Speaker 1: so I don't think he's gonna want to admit a mistake.
Speaker 1: Is not getting any younger though I get it. I
Speaker 1: think Lynn is a lot safer to Um. You can
Speaker 1: you could argue, um why, but uh, I think they
Speaker 1: believe that they have the right group. And I and
Speaker 1: I do wonder if the pandemic, especially with a team
Speaker 1: like the Chargers, you know, not known to be spending
Speaker 1: extra money, uh over the years, are they really gonna
Speaker 1: want to like blow things up? I think you give
Speaker 1: Talsco and Lynn another year just because they don't want
Speaker 1: to bother and they give they give him a little
Speaker 1: pass somewhat because it's a tough situation. I mean on
Speaker 1: the Bears front, you know, because that ownership group is
Speaker 1: so glacier, like um, maybe they stick with it or
Speaker 1: maybe you know, Ryan Pace and Matt Nige have like
Speaker 1: Patty Hurst ownership and there is no one making decisions
Speaker 1: and they'll stay forever. But they should be removed. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no argument, there's no growth, there's no vision. Um,
Speaker 1: what they've what they've envisioned exactly well right, I mean,
Speaker 1: but what what they've envisioned is what is saying, don't
Speaker 1: do football wise, So, uh, we need to want to
Speaker 1: direction that Maggie would look like with a real quarterback. Though, No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. I know. But isn't
Speaker 1: it a little unfair to say that he's a bad
Speaker 1: coach because you had you had three years to choose
Speaker 1: the right quarterback, to find the right quarterback in free agency,
Speaker 1: to hire actual competition from Matt Mitch Robiski that which
Speaker 1: they chose not to do. I mean, I would say
Speaker 1: the average Bears fan has probably run out of patients.
Speaker 1: Do we need another year of this? And they'll shove
Speaker 1: them on primetime three you know, three nights a year
Speaker 1: and we're all dealing with it. I don't. Let's move on, Yes,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Indeed, Uh, finally, this is the butt
Speaker 1: in flames division. It would take I think, something close
Speaker 1: to an act of God to get these guys hinees
Speaker 1: from being completely charred by the time we get to
Speaker 1: January Court. Everything about this is un adam gaze. I
Speaker 1: feel awkward. Yeah, that's been my role in this segment.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, Doug Maron. I feel tightened. The
Speaker 1: torture scenario it can why I feel uncomfortable and Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1: Those are the three. So I think Gates, Maron, Patricia,
Speaker 1: b O b dan Quinn. That's five. And then I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get one to two other guys picked off.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say we're gonna be replacing If I
Speaker 1: had to guess seven head coaches, Patricia make it to
Speaker 1: the end of the season at this point, I would
Speaker 1: say yes, but you never know, it might be one
Speaker 1: of those situations where they want to fire guy and
Speaker 1: get a get a jump start on there. You have
Speaker 1: a new owner to which is you know, I know
Speaker 1: it's the Ford family, but it's it's been a new owner,
Speaker 1: a new member of the family. Uh. So she uh,
Speaker 1: we'll have to make her presence felt at some point.
Speaker 1: And looks six games a long time, especially for a
Speaker 1: guy like Naggy. I think that was a perfect It's
Speaker 1: like how these six games go. Maybe it shouldn't inform it,
Speaker 1: but it will inform it a ton for a guy
Speaker 1: like Naggy. But I think you're right about all the
Speaker 1: all the locks. I was thinking I was watching these
Speaker 1: games and especially like the bad teams, wouldn't this be
Speaker 1: the worst year ever to be the worst teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're at You're Adam Gaze and you're You're the Eagle
Speaker 1: like to be a bad team in East Coast market,
Speaker 1: Like you're in the middle of a miserable pandemic. And
Speaker 1: there's probably nothing more miserable being than being on a
Speaker 1: head coach of a bad football team. And uh, and
Speaker 1: everyone in the middle. I think it's in this season
Speaker 1: there's personally there's no fans in the stands. Uh. There
Speaker 1: people are distracted in general by what's going on in
Speaker 1: the world, and you kind of go under the radar
Speaker 1: just a little bit. It doesn't okay. I thought maybe people,
Speaker 1: including myself and our show like would have a little leeway,
Speaker 1: but we have, and we're it's basically all the same
Speaker 1: as normal. Like they're they're getting buried in Philadelphia, aren't they? Like, yes,
Speaker 1: this seals a little extra, all right, So there you go.
Speaker 1: Those are the hot butt rankings. And just because there's
Speaker 1: some pearl clutching going on on the podcast, no one's
Speaker 1: butts are actually harmed in the making of that segment.
Speaker 1: It's all fun. That's it. That's it. But acting then
Speaker 1: by you on you know you and Erica, those sessions
Speaker 1: that you that you do behind the scenes to record
Speaker 1: the UM I kind of enjoy it all right, as
Speaker 1: promised before we say goodbye and head towards the Thanksgiving holiday. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's talk weakest link and let's do it. Let's let's
Speaker 1: bring it. Let's get the round table going in. Let's
Speaker 1: get Erica and of course who was on the weakest link.
Speaker 1: Let's bring in, uh, the great, the iconic Lakisha Westling,
Speaker 1: who watching the show with us. And let's also bring
Speaker 1: in the great Gonzo John Gonzalez. Look at that dude,
Speaker 1: that's the dude right there. He has not given up
Speaker 1: on the Eagles yet. All right, let's uh, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Okay, how are you doing, Lakisha? You look
Speaker 1: beautiful here. Think I'm all over the place. It's chemo Tuesday,
Speaker 1: so I'm running around like crazy with you know, taking
Speaker 1: care of Chris and Lincoln stuff. But I am excited
Speaker 1: to be here right now though. I miss you guys.
Speaker 1: What a queen? Also, John Gonzalez, Yes, as I said,
Speaker 1: wearing the old school Eagles hat. John, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: Buddy kin FC East leading Philadelphia Eagles turned and everybody
Speaker 1: and what are we discussing, were we disgusting America's abject
Speaker 1: ferrier on national television? Because yeah, you're using you're used
Speaker 1: to that. Huh. You guys look adorable by the way,
Speaker 1: huddled around that microphone. What a couple. The Wolves are, well,
Speaker 1: the Gonzals, the Gonzals, Wolves. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Erica First, A big picture take, Erica,
Speaker 1: what what were your thoughts when? And if you haven't
Speaker 1: watched yet spoiler alerts. Erica successfully navigates through the program. Okay,
Speaker 1: she She even gets it to the point where she masterfully,
Speaker 1: like uh, like a cor Leone, Don picks out the
Speaker 1: dummy and says that's the guy need to be against
Speaker 1: at the end of the show to win the weakest link,
Speaker 1: and then it didn't quite work out. Erica, take us
Speaker 1: through it well. First of all, I just would love
Speaker 1: to hear Greg's thoughts on the show. I'm proud of
Speaker 1: you for like advertising, I didn't watch it live. I think,
Speaker 1: of course not, but I was. You know, we all
Speaker 1: got crazy deadlines here and Thanksgiving weeks that about me.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you because like you've owned this and
Speaker 1: you you did better than I thought you did tell
Speaker 1: you know you it wasn't a secret. You told us
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. I knew you were gonna
Speaker 1: blew it, blow it, and I hadn't. Oh really, I
Speaker 1: thought we were all playing along. I um, I was impressed.
Speaker 1: Just let you put yourself out there like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's good. I would be I would be
Speaker 1: like not wanting anyone to watch. That'd be ashamed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it was. It was very very very very very
Speaker 1: very funny how it ended, and it's it was even
Speaker 1: more fun to watch you guys watch it and be
Speaker 1: like live texting and everyone's sort of freaking out as
Speaker 1: it got worse and worse because I was on the
Speaker 1: entirety of the show. Had I been voted off the
Speaker 1: first or second round, it would have been like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was stupid. I was on a game show whatever.
Speaker 1: But I made it all the way to the final
Speaker 1: and I lost to the dumbest person possible on the show,
Speaker 1: And so to me, I was like like sick to myself. Mike,
Speaker 1: you guys like forty five grand like I I was
Speaker 1: so like it was painful, and he had a ton
Speaker 1: of softball questions. I knew every single one of his questions,
Speaker 1: it wasn't fair. It was the biggest regret question. What
Speaker 1: was the question that you in Russian? Was No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't big. It was actually this one, Erica. Okay, Jane,
Speaker 1: I asked you for one word for the Hebrew word
Speaker 1: that means a little goodbye in peace, and you gave
Speaker 1: me too. And what were those two words mozel popters typhenated.
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, I have two more words for you,
Speaker 1: varied by Jane Lynch in the biggest You know what
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought you had the right answer, so
Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge. Thanks. It was much harder
Speaker 1: now I made that up. It was so hard though
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh yeah, I knew every single one of
Speaker 1: these questions, Like it's really easy when you're sitting on
Speaker 1: your couch and you don't have you know, six ft
Speaker 1: Jane Lynch looking down your like soul like it was,
Speaker 1: and there was like a hundred people behind cameras and
Speaker 1: every it was. It was terrifying. I couldn't imagine it. Lakisha,
Speaker 1: you are such a a beam of optimism in times
Speaker 1: of crisis, and and what were your thoughts on how
Speaker 1: Erica comported herself during the program. I thought she was
Speaker 1: the best, Like she was the one that had like
Speaker 1: the best personality. She was so likable, Like I just
Speaker 1: I'm literally was just rewatching it right now, Like girl,
Speaker 1: you killed it, Like everyone else was just so stiff
Speaker 1: and stuffy and like she got she had a lot
Speaker 1: of um chemistry with um Jane, Like, it just was
Speaker 1: so much fun. I was proud of you. It was
Speaker 1: like watching like my little sister, you know, on stage.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I am so with Lakisha. My one
Speaker 1: note here was that she you were the only person
Speaker 1: that had any tangible chemistry with Jane Lynch, which is
Speaker 1: you know that that suggests a larger role for you
Speaker 1: in in mass media and um uh and start making
Speaker 1: in general. And the person you lost to this Aaron Fellow. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for his follow up to Tom Brokaw's the
Speaker 1: Greatest Generation. One of the dimmest figures I've ever witnessed
Speaker 1: on a television set. Just to be fair, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me more about the screw salesman. Yeah, that's him.
Speaker 1: That's it was terrible. It was horrible. That's what was
Speaker 1: so crushing about it, because I definitely respected how you
Speaker 1: handled the two rickey navigating it. You almost got voted
Speaker 1: out right at the beginning. You barely survived that. In fact,
Speaker 1: you were out because it was a tie and the
Speaker 1: person that had the rights of the tiebreaker as the
Speaker 1: strongest link had voted for you. But then they switched
Speaker 1: to the other person, which I don't understand the rules
Speaker 1: of the game too. Well, that's stunned me. So that
Speaker 1: was great to see. Um I did. I did like
Speaker 1: your line after you went down in the finals in
Speaker 1: sudden death and tragic circumstances, getting shut out in five questions. Uh,
Speaker 1: you had set you had set up the chessboard so well,
Speaker 1: and then when you have to do your talking head, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is what you had to say, and it was
Speaker 1: a shoeout. I'm never gonna love this down. They asked me,
Speaker 1: probably like they interviewed me for twenty minutes, and that's
Speaker 1: what they took it was. They kept going, they kept
Speaker 1: being like, so, how does it feel to lose to Aaron?
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, oh, you know, like I was
Speaker 1: trying to like play nice and they'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: how does it feel to lose to that idiot? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, um, I think he, you know, did his best,
Speaker 1: and then I, like, you know, did the shoe lines.
Speaker 1: So I don't even remember anything that I really you
Speaker 1: got screwed, literally, I said that when they cut that
Speaker 1: from the show. Come on, John, did you think did
Speaker 1: you think that Erica and I want to get to
Speaker 1: these questions before we say goodbye? The sudden death questions?
Speaker 1: So no spoilers, but did you think it was a
Speaker 1: bit of almost the fix was in a little bit
Speaker 1: when you looked at the questions that the dummy got
Speaker 1: and then you got the questions that I do like
Speaker 1: to tease Erica. Uh, and you know, I was excited
Speaker 1: for her to make the finals. But the final questions, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought they were were considerably easier than Erica toll.
Speaker 1: The big one I thought you could have done better on.
Speaker 1: But the other ones that were difficult. I thought that
Speaker 1: the what was it the scorpio sign or leaver or
Speaker 1: whatever that was, I didn't know that are difficult. But
Speaker 1: you did set up the board so well. And I
Speaker 1: was the run it all the at and listeners who
Speaker 1: go and listen to you guys and are on on
Speaker 1: run it said that it was like blowing the lead
Speaker 1: and that is what I was getting at Ricky was
Speaker 1: that you's so enjoyably you you enjoyed the experience, and
Speaker 1: you promoted it and you wanted everyone to watch. It
Speaker 1: would have been like Scott Norwood, you know, promoting the
Speaker 1: like a tape delay of the Super Bowl before Bill's Giants.
Speaker 1: It was like, everyone's gonna come see this, like in
Speaker 1: the final moment. But it was great. Yeah, Well, some
Speaker 1: of us are on NFL network on Saturday mornings at
Speaker 1: seven am, Gragg and some of us are on NBC,
Speaker 1: so they want people to watch it. We have a
Speaker 1: great group chat called the A T. M. Bastards on
Speaker 1: on text and and Colley named it, so come after
Speaker 1: her if you think it's inappropriate, and and we were
Speaker 1: all live going back and forth. It was fun watching
Speaker 1: a live program that wasn't sports. Uh the way we
Speaker 1: were watching it. Greg was not on the chat. And
Speaker 1: then there were some questions. People are Greg, people are
Speaker 1: ask some questions behind the scenes, Uh, should Greg be here?
Speaker 1: Should he be in Bob with this moment? Did Greg
Speaker 1: even watch it? And now here's the ultimate test, Greg,
Speaker 1: would you would you agree to me running the sudden
Speaker 1: death questions by you putting you in the in the
Speaker 1: sudden death chair, just to show the audience what the
Speaker 1: questions were and get someone new for the uh Q
Speaker 1: and a back and forth here. I mean, I did
Speaker 1: not watch the whole show. If that's watch at some
Speaker 1: point lakha that I don't think that said something doesn't
Speaker 1: alright show right? No link was link was out by then? Alright,
Speaker 1: mom had to get a drink on wait, wait before
Speaker 1: we really quick, before we do this. Who where did
Speaker 1: you get the cake? What? What? What was the cake story?
Speaker 1: I got the cake? Um for? Like I woke up.
Speaker 1: It was the first thing I did. I was like,
Speaker 1: I must go to the bakery. And fine, she woke
Speaker 1: up and it was the first It was its EA
Speaker 1: week and I will do what I want and that
Speaker 1: means I will sleep in until noon and then go
Speaker 1: get a cake. The first thing I did was go
Speaker 1: to a bakery. Uh but my god, they spelled your
Speaker 1: name wrong. And then I kind of thought that was
Speaker 1: even funnier. So it was good. It was so good.
Speaker 1: You guys posted on Instagram and I like looked at
Speaker 1: the box. I was like, there's no way they made that.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, did they do that on
Speaker 1: purpose or they just rolling. It was classic. It was
Speaker 1: comasoul saying our faces. When we opened it up, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll I'll be fine, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Um all right, Greg you dad. That's all you have
Speaker 1: to do is beat You have to get one to
Speaker 1: beat Erica and to I thought it was show. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's try it to to defeat Umar. Aaron? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me with that? Aaron? Anyway, here we go Stanford.
Speaker 1: Stanford Grad students Sergey Brinn and Larry Page launched what
Speaker 1: revolutionary internet search engine bing is Google? Who is the
Speaker 1: only American Idol contestant to win an Oscar? Jennifer Hudson correct?
Speaker 1: When England's King George the Fifth changed his surname in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen, what became the official last name of the
Speaker 1: British royal family. I don't know. The correct answer is Windsor.
Speaker 1: Who was the first female US Secretary of State? Kind
Speaker 1: of Liza Rice earlier Madeline Albright? Of course, And this
Speaker 1: is to defeat you gotta answer quick, right, yeah, faster
Speaker 1: and than you're doing it. In astrology, what is the
Speaker 1: only sign of the zodiac that is represented by a
Speaker 1: non living object? Oh? Aries, Sorry, Libra, you have tied
Speaker 1: Aaron but defeated Erica. Oh she didn't get any right, yea,
Speaker 1: the all bright one hurts, but yeah, you gotta answer
Speaker 1: it fast, job Mark? What did why did? Why didn't
Speaker 1: Greg watch Erica on the weakest, like, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know he mentioned you mentioned a deadline. I
Speaker 1: don't know what type of deadline that we had to write.
Speaker 1: I have to file my picks for today. We got
Speaker 1: another show coming up today and we had to file
Speaker 1: our entire tape request and everything for game debut by today.
Speaker 1: There's we also have children going on. But it was
Speaker 1: last night, right that? What do you think I was
Speaker 1: doing last night? I'm just now realized that he really
Speaker 1: didn't watch it, So I'm going I'm too gullible, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, it's okay, Erica will watch again. I
Speaker 1: watched ever again. But you also could not care less.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of they worked together. I look at
Speaker 1: Erica Moore as like, you know, a colleague rather than
Speaker 1: a friend, you know what I mean. So we tried
Speaker 1: to keep that separate. Okay, see you next time. It
Speaker 1: just got dark on a different box on the show today. Alright,
Speaker 1: anybody have final thoughts, uh Lakisha and John before we
Speaker 1: say goodbout you. I just yeah, I just can't believe
Speaker 1: that Aaron dude just rewatching it. Like he got so
Speaker 1: many freaking questions wrong. And it's just like out of
Speaker 1: all the people on the panel to like make it
Speaker 1: and win, that's what that's what hurts so bad. And
Speaker 1: I thought I was doing the right thing. But then
Speaker 1: he gets you know that he couldn't get the he
Speaker 1: didn't even get the NBA and he was like men's
Speaker 1: basketball like it was so those questions were so bad.
Speaker 1: He messed up the rainbow flag, which is like and
Speaker 1: Evan the one dude, like the Nicki Minaj what was that?
Speaker 1: The Cardi b question Fantasia like no, come on, just
Speaker 1: just a terrible, terrible showing. And um, you know, Emma,
Speaker 1: Emma and I put out a broadcast episode late last
Speaker 1: night recapping what happened where I was locked in a
Speaker 1: room eight hours before taping. Go check it out, very good,
Speaker 1: So check out. You might have lost, but the rest
Speaker 1: of us won with all the names that you provided
Speaker 1: to thank you for the bottom of my heart, because
Speaker 1: that will never leave our DVR. And I spend much
Speaker 1: of the holiday weekend, chopping that up stave until delete
Speaker 1: status for sure. And let's give the final word to
Speaker 1: the host, Jane Lynch, who who sent off Ricky Hollywood thusly,
Speaker 1: and have a great holiday everybody, and we will see
Speaker 1: you tonight on Friday. Eric gain some knowledge tonight, and
Speaker 1: that knowledge is that maybe this type of thing isn't freaky.
Speaker 1: I'll be thanks to everybody. Hi,