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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome back on a Monday, DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: Rhett back together as we recap some of the week

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Speaker 1: six action. Buck, How are you doing, man? Have you

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Speaker 1: got you tamed down the travel a little bit this week?

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Speaker 1: That's good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we kept it, We kept it domestic, so it

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Speaker 2: was it was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Just back and forth to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Got a chance to be there in the building when

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars played the Colt so it was good.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that game in a minute. Rhet Other

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Speaker 1: than Indiana just getting absolutely smashed by Michigan. How is your.

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Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for bringing that up. But yeah, all is

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Speaker 4: all is good. It's the start of a new season.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got we got six games and six

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Speaker 4: all is good. On the college front. We're gonna figure

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Speaker 4: it out. And I got a chance to be in

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Speaker 4: studio for game day highlights and final as you did

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago there, Ditch and uh and

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Speaker 4: excited to kind of run through some of these games here.

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Speaker 4: I think there were some kind of interesting points throughout.

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Speaker 1: I think we jump right into it here. Again, we

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Speaker 1: always take the big eight here that we want to

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Speaker 1: one of these undefeateds going down. We'll get to both

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Speaker 1: these games here, but if we start with a big one.

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Speaker 1: The Brown's beating the forty nine Ers. They're at home,

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Speaker 1: it is a nineteen seventeen game. Obviously, at the end,

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Speaker 1: brock Perty is able to get a drive, they have

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Speaker 1: a makeable kick for Jake Moody. He misses it, and

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ersuf for their first loss of the season,

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Speaker 1: and they do it at the hands of PJ. Walker.

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Speaker 1: So no Deshaun Watson. They've got their backup quarterback in there,

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Speaker 1: got tweeted out on bluck that they are Shanahan's one

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Speaker 1: And if you listen to the podcast which we've referenced

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay trying to hire somebody from the Fangio Tree

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Speaker 1: because he had struggled against that defense. Well, it's the

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Speaker 1: same exact thing with Kyle Shanahan. He you know, Chris

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Speaker 1: Caserk's their defensive line coach. They run that jet front,

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Speaker 1: was coaching with Jim Schwartz forever. It's the same front,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan complete fits, no matter where he's been, no

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Speaker 1: matter what personally has and Buck when I went back

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Speaker 1: and looked at it, I pulled up the numbers. Fifty

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban famously have said the best defense in all

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Speaker 2: in the passing game, and it basically becomes, my guys

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Speaker 2: We're not switching, we're not doing anything. We're playing fast

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Speaker 2: as you're allude to. And when Schwartz took the job

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's it. Huh, the the glass slipper

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Speaker 4: I think the forty nine ers are going to be okay,

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Speaker 1: But you know is hold up, hold up, hold up?

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Speaker 1: When I interrupted there, you know who runs that exact

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's a fair point. That's a fair point.

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Speaker 4: And you got to you gotta confront your demons at

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Speaker 4: So, you know, is it a different ballgame if Christian

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Speaker 4: But but I want to get the Bucky on this though,

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Speaker 4: real quick. Two things Number one McCaffrey missing time, which

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Speaker 2: The usage like hey, let's talk about it, talk about

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Speaker 3: We're talked about it other weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's time. You pick your spots with him, Man,

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Speaker 3: It's so tempting though.

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Speaker 2: He's so good that you don't want to take him

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Speaker 3: But you're right, you got to protect him against himself.

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Speaker 2: No, that's that's the game that everybody wants to see.

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Speaker 4: Complimentary football. You love to see it. And then from

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Speaker 1: Late. Yeah, I was just going back through Josh Allen's numbers,

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Speaker 2: But that five man front allows them to stop to run,

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Speaker 2: And I'll say this about Jerry Goff to me, has

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Speaker 2: been the most impressive part of it. Like the guy

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Speaker 2: that we've tried to replace in multiple mock drafts in

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Speaker 2: multiple years, continues to kind of be like the franchise

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Speaker 2: quarterback that they needed. Yesterday Sunday was a game where

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Speaker 2: they needed him to be at a high level. The

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Speaker 2: guy has a solid game, three hundred and fifty three yards,

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Speaker 2: has two touchdowns, aman Ras Saint Brown, you.

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Speaker 3: Just talked about them, twelve catches two to four yards,

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Speaker 3: and then Jamison Williams. We had a Jason Williamson side.

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Speaker 2: That catch was as hard as it can come to

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Speaker 2: look over too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look great. Great.

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Speaker 2: But here's what I love and can appreciate about the Lions.

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Speaker 2: The Lions have assemblar really really tough team with players

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Speaker 2: that are tough and gritty. They've upgraded the talent level

447
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Speaker 2: and the people that they brought in fit what they

448
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Speaker 2: want to be. Eight and Hutcherson is all day high

449
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Speaker 2: motor socker. You look at some of the other guys

450
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Speaker 2: that they brought in. Those guys are are high motor, tough,

451
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Speaker 2: grizzled players, and quietly, this team is developing the confidence

452
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Speaker 2: where they feel like they can go toe to toe.

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Speaker 2: When you look at their their wins. They have a

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Speaker 2: win against the Kan City Chiefs. There's not going to

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Speaker 2: be a team that they fear going forward. And so

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Speaker 2: we may talk about them like a couple of years ago,

457
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Speaker 2: like the Cincinnati Bengals road the magic carpet ride to

458
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. It's not out of the question that

459
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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions are one of those teams that we're

460
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Speaker 2: talking about kind of finding a way to the final

461
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Speaker 2: four of the tournament, maybe making it in They.

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Speaker 4: Still got five games left than in the Division DJ

463
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Speaker 4: in nine division.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot still to

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Speaker 1: be decided here inside this division. But I wanted I

466
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Speaker 1: pulled up a couple numbers because I wanted to point

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Speaker 1: them out here. So we talk about golf. Golf had

468
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Speaker 1: a great game this offense. Last year, I averaged twenty

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Speaker 1: seven point five points a game. This year they're averaging

470
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Speaker 1: twenty eight points a game. So okay, it's that's a

471
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Speaker 1: huge number that puts them up in the top ten

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Speaker 1: of the league. But there's there's just a little little

473
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Speaker 1: improvement there. This defense last year was given up twenty

474
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Speaker 1: five point one points a game. This year they're giving

475
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Speaker 1: up eighteen point eight. They are a touchdown better on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. That to me is

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Speaker 1: a story of this Lions team, and that's why they've

478
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Speaker 1: entered into the elite echelon of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And it's not only that DJ like in a league

480
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Speaker 2: that we talked about being a pass happy league.

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Speaker 3: They're crushing people in the running game.

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Speaker 2: They have not given up over one hundred yards in

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Speaker 2: any of the six games. And so what happens You're

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Speaker 2: now playing one dimensional against a team that has a

485
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Speaker 2: pass rusher in Aiden Hutchinson cover guys in terms of

486
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Speaker 2: all the new guys that they brought in, they play

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Speaker 2: a lot of man coverage and they challenge you, and

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Speaker 2: like you said, we're finding out there are a lot

489
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Speaker 2: of receivers that cannot win one on one on the outside.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, the last time that they didn't

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Speaker 4: allow a one hundred yard rushing output in six straight games,

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Speaker 4: they were called the Portsmouth Spartans.

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Speaker 1: Nice night, it's been a minute. It's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: Good nug shout out to the research department.

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Speaker 3: On that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah done.

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Speaker 4: It was the Lions research department.

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Speaker 1: To put it out.

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Speaker 3: That was great, That was great.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the other big, big game of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That was the Jets Eagles game. We'll jump into that

503
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Speaker 1: one right after this. All right, the other undefeated team,

504
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Speaker 1: there were only two, and they both went down in

505
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Speaker 1: games against backup quarterbacks too. If you think about Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers being the starter at the beginning of the season

507
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Speaker 1: for four plays before handing it off to Zach Wilson. Obviously,

508
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Speaker 1: brock Perty we discussed a little bit earlier losing to PJ. Walker,

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Speaker 1: But in this game, the Eagles they I mean, you could,

510
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Speaker 1: we can. We'll get to the Jets and we'll talk

511
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Speaker 1: about them in just a second. I will say this

512
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Speaker 1: felt like a stubborn loss for the Eagles, and that

513
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Speaker 1: it felt just run the ball. You've got to lead

514
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Speaker 1: early in this game. Run the ball. Make the Jets,

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Speaker 1: who are missing several offensive linemen, make them have to

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Speaker 1: travel the length of the field. Your front has been dominant,

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Speaker 1: You're just getting after the quarterback like crazy in this game. Instead, Man,

518
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Speaker 1: it was the turnovers, one after another after another, and

519
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Speaker 1: then at the very end, Buck, I mean that one

520
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Speaker 1: where you could run the ball, choose some clock and

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Speaker 1: finish the game punt, make them have to drive. Instead,

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Speaker 1: you throw a pick. Are you kidding me? It felt

523
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Speaker 1: like a stubborn approach on the Eagle side of the things.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's been like that all year for

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. I feel like the Eagles are trying to

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Speaker 2: prove that there's something that they're not. And sometimes that

527
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Speaker 2: happens when you pay the quarterback. There's a feeling of

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Speaker 2: we need to justify There needs to be a justification

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Speaker 2: for why we paid him, or we need to validate

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Speaker 2: why he's two hundred and fifty two into the whole

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Speaker 2: whatever that is. This team can run on anybody. They

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Speaker 2: proven that they can run on everybody. They could run.

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand why the cuteness comes into it.

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Speaker 2: They take to me unnecessary gambles, They go for it

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Speaker 2: on fourth down when they don't need to.

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Speaker 3: I just can't understand why.

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Speaker 2: And I heard Nick Sirianni after the game, so he

538
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Speaker 2: didn't have to say anything to the team. The player

539
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Speaker 2: stood up and talked about accountability and all those things.

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Speaker 3: And I get that the players need to.

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Speaker 2: Be accountable, but coach need to be accountable too. Man,

542
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Speaker 2: just get to win. It doesn't matter what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: Just get to win.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you this, from what you saw,

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Speaker 4: was it a couldn't run it or wouldn't run it situation?

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Speaker 4: Because look, the Jets defense is pretty stout now with

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Speaker 4: Quinn Williams up there.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

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Speaker 4: Moseley had a terrific at Quincy Williams two. They were

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Speaker 4: all over the football in this one. So would you

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Speaker 4: say it was more just they they didn't or they

552
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Speaker 4: really couldn't.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it was a choice. I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: pull up the numbers here. But I watched the game,

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Speaker 1: went back and watched it on tape. They had some

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Speaker 1: they had some pops that they could run it a

557
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Speaker 1: little bit. They just they just got away from it.

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Speaker 1: And that one, I don't care if you get stuffed

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. If you get stuffed the

560
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and have the punt, you still run

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Speaker 1: that ball on that particular down. So, uh, you know. Look,

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Speaker 1: they they they averaged three point six yards of carry, so,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of that's coming with with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtz, who was their most successful runner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, its scrimswift.

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Speaker 1: Swift didn't do anything. But I mean that's that's the

567
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Speaker 1: whole point. If you've got Jalen Hurts, who you're given

568
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Speaker 1: eight carries too, I mean, he's proven he can kind

569
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Speaker 1: of be that eight to twelve carry guy. At the

570
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Speaker 1: end of the game, you're running quarterback power whatever you

571
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Speaker 1: have to do at that point in time to chew

572
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Speaker 1: the clock and try and finish the game off. But

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Speaker 1: they didn't do it. Now, I want to jump over

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Speaker 1: to the Jets side because I want to spend too

575
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Speaker 1: much time with the Eagles, because this was completely about

576
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Speaker 1: the Jets and their defense and what they were able

577
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Speaker 1: to do. I wanted to pull up this number here.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, Okay, pressure percentage, right, this is which is

579
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Speaker 1: a great number. We can talk about sacks and that's

580
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Speaker 1: you know, that's great, but how much pressure are you

581
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Speaker 1: applying to the quarterback? Listen to these names here, who

582
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Speaker 1: are I'll work from five up to one in pressure percentage.

583
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Speaker 1: This is a minimum hundred snaps okay through PFF on

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Speaker 1: pressure percentage. Number five is Max Crosby. You think we

585
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Speaker 1: would all agree he's an elite player. Number four is

586
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, who's been a disruptor, disruptive guy in this

587
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Speaker 1: league who's been paid. Number three is his teammate, Michah

588
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Speaker 1: Parsons and those numbers. Michah Parsons is at twenty three

589
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Speaker 1: or where is it here? No, Michaeh Parsons is at

590
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Speaker 1: twenty one point one percent. Number two is Miles Garrett.

591
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Speaker 1: All right, so where are the odds on this list?

592
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: These are all elite guys. Miles Garrett widely considered the best.

593
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Speaker 1: If not him, then Parsons. Those are two and three

594
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Speaker 1: at twenty one point one and twenty two point two.

595
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Speaker 1: Bryce Huff is number one in the league in pressure

596
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Speaker 1: percentage and he's at twenty eight point nine percent. He's say,

597
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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? He's over six percent above Miles

598
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Speaker 1: Garrett eight and Micah Parsons Like that is insane.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you what's his what's his sample size

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Speaker 4: on that compared to the other guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll pull it up right now.

602
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Speaker 4: So this only because I'm just saying, like, you know,

603
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Speaker 4: he's got probably got the ability to be pretty fresh

604
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Speaker 4: with the way that they can run.

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Speaker 1: So he's rushed, He's rushed one hundred and fourteen times. Yeah,

606
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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett has rushed one hundred and thirty five times.

607
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Speaker 1: That Parsons has rushed one hundred and forty two, Lawrence

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Speaker 1: one hundred and two. Uh, you know, so he's you

609
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Speaker 1: know Max Crosby's he's rushed two hundred and twenty one snatchez.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, he's the one who's every snack. He's

611
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Speaker 1: playing a ton, so you could probably give him a

612
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Speaker 1: little benefit that his should be even higher. I mean

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Speaker 1: that when you look at the percentag there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: that he is a little bit lower because he's rushed

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Speaker 1: so much, But he's not that far off, you know,

616
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Speaker 1: from those other guys in terms of attempts and buck

617
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: It just shows you too, there's always going to be

618
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Speaker 1: a premium on fastballs, like he's got a little bit

619
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Speaker 1: of power to him, but making no mistake, he is

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Speaker 1: winning with speed and agility off the edge.

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Speaker 2: It's beIN agility, like that's the one thing you don't

622
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Speaker 2: have to have a lot of different pitches in your bag.

623
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Speaker 2: You just have to have one that is dominant and

624
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Speaker 2: that speed kills because what it does is changes everything.

625
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Speaker 2: It changes how the person has to set and you

626
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: have to kick, then you set up other things. It's

627
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Speaker 2: just so much that you can do. It's funny in

628
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Speaker 2: a league where we just talk about coveting pass rushers

629
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Speaker 2: and passers and those things. Ye after year, it's the

630
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Speaker 2: elite guys, the guys with elite witness, and I think

631
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Speaker 2: there's something to be learned from that when it comes

632
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Speaker 2: to when we get to the spring and we're looking

633
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Speaker 2: at these guys, there's certain traits that translate the sac

634
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Speaker 2: production and we just got to continue to identify him

635
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Speaker 2: and talk about it over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like I said, blinking light at the stops

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Speaker 2: on and.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to flip over again. Dominant

639
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: from the from the Jets defense, taking the ball away,

640
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Speaker 1: rushing the pass, or they were all over the field.

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Speaker 1: Quincy Williams is going to be, if not a for

642
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: sure a pro bowler, he might be an all pro

643
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: the way he's playing. He's been awesome at the second

644
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: level of the defense. Offensively, you know there's there's growth

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00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: right with with Zach Wilson. I think we from what

646
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Speaker 1: we've all seen, we've all seen him getting better. Now

647
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Speaker 1: does that mean he's playing great? No, there's still there's

648
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: still when I watch the tape, he's still missing some things.

649
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: He's not seeing everything clearly. But I'll tell you what

650
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: he's he's learned from the point of the difference between

651
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: a taking a bad sack and turn and making a

652
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: bad turnover is immense. You can say, okay, those are

653
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: both negatives in the grade book, but buck Man, there

654
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: is when you get a chance to maintain possession and

655
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: kick threes. In this league right now, there's so much parody.

656
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: We've only got three teams with the losing record in

657
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: the AFC, And I was talking to something about this morning. Man,

658
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: if you kick field punt, don't turn the ball over,

659
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be five hundred or above in

660
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: this league because people are gonna lose games. They're gonna lose.

661
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: Them, man.

662
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: Marty Seanham used to stand in front of the team

663
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: and say this all the time. More games are lost

664
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: than one. Guys, if you can just figure out how

665
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: not to give the game away to the other team,

666
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: they'll just find a way to give it to you.

667
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: So if you don't turn it over, you don't allow

668
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: big plays, big passes, the flow over your head, you

669
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: don't have dumb and stupid penalties. And if you win

670
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: the kicking game, you are going to be in a

671
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: lot of games, and ultimately you will win a lot

672
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: of those games. And to me, coming from a coach

673
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: that won two hundred regular season games, every time I

674
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: look at the league, particularly now, the way the parody

675
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: has made it where every game is an eight point

676
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: or fewer game, he just.

677
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: Don't mess it up.

678
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: If you don't mess it up, you're going to win

679
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: four more games than you lose.

680
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: He's got one pick in his last four games. So

681
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: and we can say he's still missing some things. Like

682
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: I said, there's some he left some things out there.

683
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: But I do think what this has done is he's

684
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: he needed to play, He needs get experienced, he needs

685
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: to see things, he needs to learn from things. And

686
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the problem is when you turn the ball over as

687
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: much as he had been, he's in and out of

688
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: the lineup. You can't play him. So now it's like, okay, hey,

689
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: we can deal with hey on that sack A you

690
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: know if we can get that ball, throw it away.

691
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Those are lessons we can learn. But if you're frazzled

692
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: and throwing red zone interceptions and costing us points repeatedly,

693
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: like I can't keep putting you out there for you

694
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: to learn this stuff.

695
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Aaron Rodgers coming over was worth his

696
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: wait and go, not only in just his four plays

697
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: that he played before he got hurt, but what he's

698
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: been able to do with Zach Wilson, He's been the

699
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: best quarterback coach that he could ever have because every

700
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: day he got a chance to not unless see Aaron

701
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: Rodgers prepare. But we know that Aaron Rodgers was a

702
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: low turnover guy. He's a winning quarterback. So all of that,

703
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: all of those like whispers in his ear, take care

704
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: of the ball.

705
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: This is when you throw It's made him a better

706
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: quick look.

707
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: He may never live up to a play up to

708
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: what he was the second pick overall, but he certainly

709
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: can be a functional starter for a team that is

710
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: loaded on defense. And I think he's done enough now

711
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: that if you're the Gets, you're like, no, no, we

712
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: can keep Zack Wilson. We can keep Zack Wilson and

713
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: find a path for him to be the starting quarterback

714
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: going forward. To me, it's been a win win situation

715
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 2: for the Jets and the fact that they're sitting at

716
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: with three and three or whatever.

717
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Three and three not the bye. Yeah, another thing out,

718
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Oh real quick, Rett, I was gonna get you on

719
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: this real quick. The other thing that stood out to me, Man,

720
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: they're he said, remember when he got hurt, when Rogers

721
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: got hurt, and we said, oh, okay, thirteen personnel, Like

722
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: that's their answer here because you can run the ball

723
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: out of that. It's going to give you simplified looks.

724
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna get one on ones with Garrett Wilson. They

725
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: really don't. I mean, Lazard dropped the ball, he had

726
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: a big penalty. I'm not a huge Lazard fan, like

727
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: he's okay, Randall Cobb just I mean, those are Aaron

728
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers type players. But they've got one true receiver. I mean,

729
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: they missed Corey Davis with him retiring. But thirteen personnel

730
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: is the answer to a lot of these problems. And

731
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: this is the game where they busted that out more.

732
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: And then when you're not in thirteen getting empty, just

733
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: getting empty, and let's let him get the ball out

734
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: of his hand quick. And that was something I saw

735
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: in this game. And I'm sitting here watching this going

736
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, geez, like that's just just just use the

737
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: tight ends. And Rutger to me, is the one who

738
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: I think has got a chance to be somebody that's

739
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: a real big part of this thing. And he's better.

740
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: He's more talented than those other two. I like Conklin

741
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Uzama's kind of more of an inline guy. Rutgert's got

742
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: a chance to be really good. I think his role

743
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: should increases the season goes along.

744
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate you bringing up my nightmare from this weekend.

745
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: Michigan lived in thirteen personnel all day long. I gottall, Hey,

746
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: how about Aaron Rodgers. I mean they're talking about him

747
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: coming back to the last quarter.

748
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Of the season, modern modern, modern medicine.

749
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: So seeing him pre game throwing the ball around, what

750
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: what are you doing?

751
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: Like?

752
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: You can't watch that and tell me he's not coming

753
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: back this year. He's coming back a hundred percent. Do

754
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: you remember? Yes, I got to look it up, but

755
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: uh do you remember when? Uh? When? What's his name? Why?

756
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: Cam Akers? When he came back in like six months though,

757
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: is that what it was? Six months, which was still

758
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: which was which was crazy fact incredible. Yeah, And I

759
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: remember thinking that. I remember thinking like, he's gonna be hobbled,

760
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: and and I was like he looked as as explosive

761
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: as I'd ever seen him when he came back from that.

762
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: I just think that with medically, they have got ways

763
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: to do this.

764
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: So now I'm saying, I'm saying, like four months to

765
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: put him at the end of December January, like if

766
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: they can kind of hold on.

767
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: And I mean, he's not gonna have to wear and

768
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: tear on his body of the part we're talking about

769
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: running back like he doesn't need I mean, he just

770
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: needs to sit back in a rocking chair and pitch

771
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the ball around sitting there.

772
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: When Dan Marino came back, he just said the shotgun

773
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: didn't move. I mean, he can be a statue and

774
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: just it changed the running game. But just having him

775
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: around gives them hope. I think his presence gives everything,

776
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: just gives them hope to if we can just hey,

777
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: we just get to December kind of close and you

778
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: can take us over the top.

779
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: I feel like that feeling gives them a little something.

780
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if he didn't end up coming back, just like, hey,

781
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: he's going. If they believe he's coming back, it's worthing.

782
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: All right, Buck, What do you got for the next one? Here?

783
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: Hey?

784
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: Man?

785
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals knocking off the Seattle Seahawks. This is

786
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: a game where they had no business winning based on

787
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: what they did offensively. They couldn't really move the ball consistently.

788
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: They didn't get anything done. Zach Taylor talked about, Hey,

789
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just better to win ugly than to lose pretty,

790
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: and that's what is happening.

791
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Their defense stepped up four sacks, had a.

792
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: Couple takeaways, had two critical fourth down stops inside the

793
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: ten in the last two minutes. Like the Bengals defense,

794
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: lou and Roumo doesn't get enough credit for what he's

795
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: been able to do. Early in the year they were struggling,

796
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: but I think people forgot about the departures that they

797
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: had in the secondary. Jesse Bates von Belle didn't love

798
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: Eli Apple.

799
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: But he was another.

800
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: So three fourths of your secondary is gone right away,

801
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: and so bringing in those young players, they're beginning to

802
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: play better. And then we know upfront, man, they just

803
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: got all those energy as a bunny's just getting after it,

804
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: hustling and making things happen.

805
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: They're in the mix.

806
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how good this team is, but I

807
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: know they're just kind of giving themselves a chance until

808
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and dead offense can figure it out.

809
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 4: And you know what I'll say is, you know, I

810
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: think we've all kind of been caught up in the

811
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow calf situation. And you know, man, if he

812
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: could just you know, we talked about it here, can

813
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 4: he just can they hold on right till the bye

814
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: week crucial stretch here? Now they're three and three, which

815
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: is great, But you know, the one thing that's kind

816
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: of flown under the radar here is this is the

817
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: last ranked rushing offense in football, dead last. They don't

818
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: run it a lot, They're they're way down there in attempts.

819
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: And when they do run it, I mean they're way

820
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: under four yards to carry right now, which you know,

821
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: you look at as kind of like the Mendoza line

822
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: for success, right you want to try to stay on

823
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: schedule with the run game average about four yards to pop.

824
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: They're way down there. Joe Mixon, you know, has been

825
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: relatively irrelevant for much of this season. And you know

826
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: what the biggest thing that stuck out to me is,

827
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: you know, just look at and how PFF looked at

828
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 4: the offensive lineman and Orlando Brown is by far their

829
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: lowest graded offensive lineman in the run game. And don't

830
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: we kind of agree that that's that's kind of where

831
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: he excels.

832
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of supposed to be it's supposed to be

833
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: the good side.

834
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he is by far been their worst in

835
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: the run game. And you know, Alex Kappa is kind

836
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: of right there with him, which again, you look at

837
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: Kappa is like, that's that's a dude who can kind

838
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 4: of mash in the run game. And they're not getting

839
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: that right now. So I don't know if it's if

840
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: it's commitment or if they're not committed to it because

841
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: they know that they're not good at it right now,

842
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: one of the two. But there they are putting a

843
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on that pass game.

844
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: I looked up our get off numbers, which we do

845
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: each and every week on here, because I was curious

846
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: where Trey Hendrickson is. Trey Hendrickson, of all the edge

847
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: rusher's minimum one hundred snaps number one get off as

848
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Number two is Josh Sweat. Number three is

849
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson Jrixy get and and that's another one where

850
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Buck I feel like, you know, we again we talk

851
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: about and by the way, right behind him is Darryl Taylor,

852
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham, Bryce Huff, Nick Bosa, Hassan Reddick. So it's good,

853
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: its stat's good, it matters, but I feel like it's dude,

854
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: there's just he knows how to rush man like they're

855
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: when you combine if that's the whole thing, Like if

856
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: you can combine polish with the get off, like forget it.

857
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: Like that's why he's and he doesn't. I feel like

858
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: he still doesn't get mentioned like with those other guys.

859
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: He's one of the best.

860
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: Free agent signings on the defensive side of the ball

861
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: in the last ten years. You know how many people

862
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 4: thought that Saints that season he had with the Saints

863
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: was a flash in the pan.

864
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: That's that's the thing.

865
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: There's like a three and a half, a three plus

866
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: year sample size of his dominance off the edge, just

867
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: one thing to be a one year one. It's another

868
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: thing to do it with the Saints, and then everyone's like, ah,

869
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: we benefited from being opposite or beside camp Jordan, and

870
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: then he goes to Cincinnati first year, bang, second year,

871
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: whoa third year We're still talking about it. At some

872
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: point you have to give him credit. And you talked

873
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: about like the get off and the skill. I think

874
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: it's underestimated the competitive stamina that you need to have,

875
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: the relentlessness because there's one thing, Oh I'm gonna try

876
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: and get here. I don't get home, I'm gonna stop

877
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: on the play. But it's another thing to be an

878
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: all day sucker where you're just going and going and

879
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: going energy in Africa that you fall into two or

880
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: three sacks a year. He has that ability, plus what

881
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: you talked about, the physical skills and in the Polish

882
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: to do it. He's been Look, he's been a huge

883
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: addition to their their defense and without him, I can't

884
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: even imagine what their defense will little like man, No.

885
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: He's getting by the way, look what's the what's their schedule?

886
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: Real quick? By the way, Rhett coming out of it,

887
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: they got their buy. I think it's brutal coming out

888
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: for the Saints. I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, sorry.

889
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: For the Bengals, they've got their buy. I know Buffalo,

890
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: I believe it.

891
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 4: They got San Francisco Buffalo, an upstart Houston team, and

892
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: Baltimore Pittsburgh.

893
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, they gotta be they better get rested up.

894
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: They fought their way to five hundred, which it feels

895
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: like the whole AFC is in the same boat. So

896
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: it feels like you just got to hang around here,

897
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: like if you can get to if you're seven and

898
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: I feel like seven and seven, we're gonna have a

899
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: bunch of teams at like seven and seven, six and seven,

900
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, eight and six, Like it's gonna come down

901
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: to the end there. You just got to stay in

902
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: the pack. You can't fall behind. You gotta at least

903
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: hove around that five hundred and navigate through the difficult

904
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: part of your schedule.

905
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting to see Like this division though, with Baltimore

906
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: and Cleveland and Cincinnati and even Pittsburgh. It's gonna be

907
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: really interesting to see how this plays out. Really competitive division. Everyone,

908
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: No one's playing great, but no bad team in the mix.

909
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a bad team.

910
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: I'll get us to Commander's Falcons here, guys. As we

911
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: get to a couple more games here and look, you

912
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: know this is man the faces of Arthur Smith. If

913
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: you if you've ever seen a facial expression spell frustration,

914
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: just go back and look at at what Arthur Smith

915
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: was given to you on the sidelines here watching Desmond Ridder,

916
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: particularly in the second half, and this is this is

917
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: the game again, Like you look at the box score

918
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: in this thing, and you're like, how in the world

919
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: did the Falcons lose? They had thirteen more first downs,

920
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: they ran thirty more plays than the Commanders, They outgained

921
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: them by two hundred yards. The Atlanta defense kept the

922
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: Commanders under two hundred total yards and Atlanta was still

923
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: trailing by two touchdowns to start the fourth quarter. Well,

924
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: turn it over on downs twice and you throw three

925
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: picks on the second half and they can start to

926
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: fall apart pretty quickly. So I think with Desmond Rider

927
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: of what we've come to the conclusion is he is

928
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: not yet nearly to the point where you can count

929
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 4: on clean games from him consistently. You know, he had

930
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: a good game last week and we're praising him for it,

931
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: and then comes back and it's you know, it's a stinker,

932
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: particularly in the second half. You know, the first interception,

933
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: he throws three picks in this game. First interception quick

934
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: game absolutely telegraphs that you can see Kendall Fuller reading

935
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 4: his eyes the whole way breaks on the ball, picks

936
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: that thing off. Second is the worst. The you're on

937
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: the two yard line with a third and goal and

938
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 4: it's a delay of game and obviously, you know, we

939
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on in the headset.

940
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Is it on him?

941
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: It's the play not come in clear or on time,

942
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: you know, don't know that. But you back up to

943
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: a third and seven and he lets a fade away

944
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: off his back foot under pressure, fly up into the

945
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: end zone. Like it's like a you know, hail Mary

946
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 4: at the end of the game, and like you could

947
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: just sit there and play and kick a field goal

948
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: and move on, get some points. And it's picked, you know,

949
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: an easy interception. This third one I was kind of

950
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: curious about. I don't know if you guys had a

951
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: chance to watch this. This is at the very end.

952
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: They had a bunch of chances here in this game.

953
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 4: They motioned Bjon Robinson out of the backfield. They get

954
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: a nice matchup, right, you get a linebacker to come

955
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: out with him in a one on one situation man coverage,

956
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: but it's jam and Davis, all right, what does jam

957
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: and Davis have in spades? Athleticism and speed. He's got

958
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 4: really good coverage on Vijon, but on a third down

959
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: where you gotta have it at the end of the game.

960
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 4: How often are you going to call how often is

961
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: it going to be a half field read? How often

962
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: is the other half of the field going to be

963
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: basically dead? And I'm not sure that it was in design,

964
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 4: but Kyle Pitts just jogs off the line as the

965
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: slot player on the other side, and there's nowhere else

966
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: for Ridder to go and he throws a bad ball.

967
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: You know it's behind Bijah. That whole sequence was kind

968
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: of weird to me.

969
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to phrase this properly because when I

970
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: watched this game, I've seen Ridder play well yeah before

971
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: we saw it just previously in that game. I don't

972
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: think he's very talented. That makes any sense at all.

973
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: But there's a throw in this there's a throw in

974
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: this game. Buck. It was an inbreaker. I can't remember

975
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: if it was a dig or a skinny poster what

976
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: it was, but I'm watching it going the ball is

977
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: never going to get there, like not getting there like

978
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: he's got it. Just the ball has no life whatsoever

979
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: on the football. And I'm like, man, I just don't

980
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: know how physically talented he is. I think he's smart,

981
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: I think he's tough. I think he's a great teammate,

982
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: he's a leader. I think he's gonna he's gonna have

983
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: some games where he plays well. I just don't know

984
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: like what the high end, like what the ceiling is

985
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: on this thing. It feels low to me.

986
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, difference between good to great is a mess. And

987
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: we're not even talking about.

988
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Almost who's backup right, and and you're limited?

989
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we see Arthur Smith's faces like that, you're

990
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: just the exasperation because what man, it's like two games

991
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: that they dropped where they probably could have if they

992
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: had just a little more, a little more at quarterback,

993
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: they could do it. So it puts them in a

994
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: bad situation because you're looking at cal Pitts, you're looking

995
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: at John neu Smith and Drake London by the way,

996
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: you know John Robinson, and you're just looking at this

997
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: team and you just it just makes you wonder, right,

998
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this, and who says that they

999
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: want to pay this, But what would Kirk Cousins do

1000
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: with that?

1001
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: Would they be better with a Kirk Cousins.

1002
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: That's my Kirk, that's my landing spot. That's the perfect

1003
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: spot for him.

1004
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, like like like, what what would they do

1005
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: with with with a veteran quarterback who has some pulse

1006
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: on the wall. It doesn't have to be like the best,

1007
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: but man, just a good to very good quarterback in

1008
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: that situation where he can run the football. Because they

1009
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: can run it and that defense is playing pretty well,

1010
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: you just wonder, man are they are they missing out

1011
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 2: on a twenty three twenty twenty three season they could

1012
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: have playoff appearance, you know, a division title because they're

1013
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: just not good enough at quarterback.

1014
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. I'll go to RHTT

1015
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: and Bucky. You can follow it up like if I

1016
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: told you tomorrow you had to go win a game,

1017
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: and I told you you could have Ritter or Josh Dobbs,

1018
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: who would you take.

1019
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: I'll take Josh Dobbs.

1020
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Bucky didn't even hesitate red at least hesitate Bucks has

1021
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: fired that thing out in two seconds. Yeah, My point

1022
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: was going to be that I thought you guys would

1023
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: at least have to think about it, which clearly Rhett

1024
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: has had to think of rhtt at Buck's like, na, yeah,

1025
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: I'll take Dobbs. Yeah. But which which further is my point,

1026
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: which is just I just don't know how good he is.

1027
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean what this is team six for

1028
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs, right and he's actually probably playing his best

1029
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: football of his career right now. Ye and I don't

1030
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: even know, you know, just Rid or Ha even have

1031
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: the mobility that Josh Dobbs has, no, which.

1032
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Is he doesn't use he doesn't use it. If he does,

1033
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: Dobs will use it.

1034
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing too. I don't feel like

1035
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: he's utilizing all of his all his superpowers. Yeah, like

1036
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: he's in the pocket, but he's not running. He's not

1037
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: giving me the added element. At some point he has

1038
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: to give you something beyond just being the drop back passer.

1039
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's good on that one. Let's yea.

1040
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: But we gotta we gotta go. We gotta crank through

1041
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: these last two here because we've spent I think, and

1042
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: like you guys said, rightfully so on some of those

1043
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: bigger games spin a little longer. Raiders Patriots, This game

1044
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: was tough on the eyes. Went back and was watching it.

1045
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: It was painful to watch. It's just not a lot

1046
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: of excitement with either one of these franchises. Somehow, the Raiders, though,

1047
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: find themselves at five hundred twenty one seventeen. The Raiders

1048
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: get this one done. To me, it was it was

1049
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: really about two rookies that I wanted to go back

1050
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: and look at. When I looked at the box score,

1051
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: I was glad to see Michael Mayer finally get involved.

1052
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Five for seventy five. Hit him in the flat, use

1053
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: him on a check down, hit a shell across, gave

1054
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: you some run after catch.

1055
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: You know who that's good for.

1056
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: I know it's good for you.

1057
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: You win the tight end day.

1058
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Okay, did you did you have did you have him?

1059
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: Mayor?

1060
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: He had Mayor? Nice? That was a good move. That

1061
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: was a good move. He gave me some run after catch.

1062
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 1: And then the other rookie was Trey Tucker, the rookie

1063
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: hat of Cincinnati, who could fly. He was undersize, a

1064
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: little underd five to nine, one hundred and eighty two pounds,

1065
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: ran four four flat plays faster than that and hit

1066
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: a big play. He had two for fifty seven, they

1067
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: hit him on a slot vertical again. I you know,

1068
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: there's kind of that shich. Guys, were you excited to

1069
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: watch Patriots?

1070
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

1071
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: Man, I'll be honest, I was focusing more on the

1072
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Raiders side of things when I watched the video, because

1073
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: it's nothing to get me excited about the Patriots right now.

1074
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Just I've talked, I feel like we've kind of said

1075
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: been there, done that, sec there's nothing's until something changes.

1076
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know that we're using our time wisely

1077
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: to talk about him.

1078
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: He did, and then he kind of messed it up.

1079
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: I was hoping for I tellted it as maybe he

1080
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: can be uh Bill Belichicks, Lamar Jackson come in and

1081
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: just save today. They run a different offense and do

1082
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff.

1083
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, not so much, not yet, not.

1084
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: Yet, that's enough.

1085
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: But Max Crosby's a closer dude, absolutely, I mean just

1086
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: a freak. Nobody plays that hard for that long, every

1087
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: snap in that well, for every snap like.

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00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: That, with the with the attention of every team that

1089
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: they play focused on him, every single team, and he

1090
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: still does it all right, Buck last one here Ravens

1091
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Titans Baltimore wins that one in London twenty four to sixteen.

1092
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they wanted.

1093
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: They were able to get Jay Flowers in the end

1094
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: zone for the first time. But with the Ravens, look,

1095
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: the more things change, the more they stay the same.

1096
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: Like they talk all off.

1097
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: Season about their offense, We're gonna do this and throw

1098
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: it all over and then they end up having to

1099
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: win because their defense kind of dominates today. And it

1100
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: was a I would say, a team on offense playing

1101
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: with one arm behind their back. Ryan Tannehill isn't good enough,

1102
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: Malik Willis isn't ready. They have one punch and that's

1103
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. He has to do everything, even though he

1104
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: took a wildcat thing like down the sidelline, which is

1105
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: crazy to me that you know, hey, he's in the backfield,

1106
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: there's no quarterback, he's getting it running.

1107
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: It still goes around the Cornerbard's up. There's one thing.

1108
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: But the Ravens are still sitting here there the top

1109
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: of the division there there.

1110
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: It certainly isn't how we thought it would look when

1111
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: they made this big deal about the offense, but they're

1112
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: good enough to.

1113
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: Win games and their defense continues to show up.

1114
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's where we at with the Titans right now, right,

1115
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 4: Will Levis, That's where we're at.

1116
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just go just throw them out there

1117
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: and see what happens.

1118
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 4: What I mean, unfortunately, you know that opens maybe that

1119
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: opens up the window here for one of the young quarterbacks.

1120
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean it's you got to at some point,

1121
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: you got to know that this ship is sailed with

1122
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: the way that that team was constructed with Tannehill.

1123
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 1: Right I I to me this and the offensive line

1124
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: is not good. Yeah, they're terrible. So you I mean,

1125
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: it was a matter of time before Tannehill was going

1126
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: to get nicked and then he gets hurt. We saw

1127
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: milink it out there. She's just holding the ball forever.

1128
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, I just thought the skill

1129
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: wise that Levis was further advanced, and you know, coming

1130
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: through the draft process then Malik was coming through his

1131
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: draft process. I just would like to see what you

1132
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: have there. I would throw Will Levis out there. This

1133
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: is a guy we were talking about, and I know

1134
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: he has his faults and it's not all perfect, but

1135
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: this is a guy who had like he had top

1136
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: five type ability. Now none of us, none of the

1137
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: three of us, had him all the way up there

1138
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: in terms of where we ranked him, but we ranked

1139
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: him as a first round player. Like, get him out there,

1140
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: let him play, see what he can do.

1141
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean give you some juice.

1142
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: A team with something, right, yeah, it is something.

1143
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Any something, because I mean I just don't know where

1144
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: they go, Like they're just kind of like a hum franchise.

1145
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is great, but they don't have anything around him.

1146
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: And let's be honest, even on the out side, like

1147
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: signing NW Hopkins, Trylan Burk, Like they're just a very

1148
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: slow team. They're a slow team, and it's just so

1149
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: hard to win in this league when you look at

1150
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins running up and down the field and

1151
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: this team is unable to do it.

1152
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: No, speaking of those, I still don't I was there

1153
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: for the game. I called the for the charge. I

1154
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: don't know how the Chargers lost that Tennessee Titans team,

1155
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: and I still don't know how they lost to them.

1156
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: That was bad loss. But I am, uh, I've got

1157
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: to run because I've gotten it up to uh to

1158
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: where Bucky is right now. So far you're you're at

1159
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: home right right, I see your beautiful background there. I

1160
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: am get up there and call this Cowboys charge a game,

1161
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: which we can talk about a little bit tomorrow. Anything

1162
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: you guys want to add before we jump out of here.

1163
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 4: I mean, the last thing I'll say.

1164
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: C J.

1165
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: Stroud went one hundred and ninety one pass attempts without

1166
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: an interception, and not on his one hundred and ninety

1167
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: second he forced one in Adult and Schultz. But boy,

1168
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 4: his boy, Nico Collins forced the fumble and the didn't

1169
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 4: hurt him and they got right back.

1170
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: Happened, no problem. Uh what were gonna say?

1171
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, I didn't know, No, no, I didn't know.

1172
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: If you guys have been paying attention to college football,

1173
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: but guitar hills a Nana top ten, I don't like.

1174
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: Well, I was told we're inching towards. We're now inching towards.

1175
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: You know. Help me, help me with this one, Help

1176
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: me with this one.

1177
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: I was told.

1178
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I was told if your team loses on a Tuesday

1179
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 1: night that it doesn't doesn't count. Right? Is that true?

1180
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm traveling and you know, going out

1181
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: there at Dallas. I'll be going out to Dallas for

1182
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: my daughter's wedding. Like you know, check into the hotel

1183
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I guess I'll see if

1184
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: there's some Seinfeld reruns on or something.

1185
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1186
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy crap, is this is a real game

1187
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: right now? We're playing on Tuesday night football. Here we go,

1188
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. Got us. I'm not a fan of the

1189
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday night football. I'm sorry. I gotta say it. Whatever,

1190
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. All right, let's get out of here, guys.

1191
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,719
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1192
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: one of those five star reviews, we appreciate that. If

1193
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: you like the show and leave us a little review

1194
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,120
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1195
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: days a week, including a video show on Tuesdays, so

1196
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that as well. We'll see

1197
00:51:51,400 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: you next time right here on move the sticks want