WEBVTT - 014 Rich on Tech Radio Show - April 8, 2023 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.039 Google drop support for yet another product. Best Buy launches 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.600 boxes that make it easy to recycle old gadgets, even cables. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.960 How to make your cell phone calls sound clearer. Plus 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.760 your tech questions answered. What is going on? I'm Rich 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.200 Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show where 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.320 I talk about the tech stuff I think you should 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.880 know about. It's also the place where I answer your 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.920 questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at ktlaight Channel 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.239 five in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. What a 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.840 show it's going to be. Phone lines are now open. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.240 Let me press the magic button to open those triple 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.680 A Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.440 four to two four one zero one. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.640 Kim is standing by to screen your calls. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.800 Give me a call. If you have a question about technology. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.480 Email is also open. Send it to hello at on 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.520 tech dot TV. You're really taking advantage of that email 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:08.360 I've noticed. So yeah, you know the goal of this 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.040 show was to get like less emails, but it's actually 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.200 created more emails. So yes, I get to your email. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.600 It may take a bit, but I do read them. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:18.080 Believe me. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.520 If you follow me on social media, you know that 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.440 I just go back from a family vacation to Hawaii. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.280 We plan this thing so long ago. It was so 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.440 nice to go. But isn't it weird how when you're 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:30.920 on vacation. Oh wow, that was weird. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.840 I just looked at my show clock here and it 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.160 literally showed eight oh eight, which is the ZIP or. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.240 The area code for Hawaii. It was weird anyway. Isn't 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.240 it odd that how when you go on vacation you 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.959 are happy to come back home? Did you do you 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:44.919 ever think that would happen? 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.720 Like when you're planning a vacation, you think you want 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.160 to stay there forever, but after a couple of days. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.000 Maybe it's just me. I don't know, but I'm always like, Okay, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.800 I can get back to my routine. I can get 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.280 back to going to the gym. I can get back 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.280 to eating like a standard meal and not you know, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.560 the most food you could ever imagine. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.640 But it was great on this trip. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.760 I challenged myself to disconnect, which is always a challenge 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.520 for someone like myself because I'm trying to keep up 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.200 with the news. I'm getting questions from a lot of 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.480 people from all over the place. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:16.360 How did I do? 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.800 I think I did pretty well, I said I was 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.080 only going to use one phone the entire trip, which 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.120 I pretty much did. I did bring two phones, but 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.240 I only used one the whole time. You know, I'm 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.120 always testing something, so I wanted to see you know, 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.600 Samsung's got this new two hundred megapixel camera, so I 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.040 was like, I want to see how it does. I 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.880 also want to compare the selfie camera on both the 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.720 Samsung and the iPhone. So I did that, and by 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.320 the way, Samsung does a lot better. One of the 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.840 things I've noticed much much better with HDR. So when 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.240 you're taking a picture of like a sunset behind you 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.960 or in front of you with a selfie, Samsung just 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.639 does a little bit better processing on that. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.440 I don't know why, but that's just a thing. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.520 Also why I was able to disconnect, the signal was 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.480 terrible all along the beach. My wife and I were 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.360 like laughing, We're like, we found the one place in 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.919 the world that has no signal, and so we pretty 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.880 much were forced off of our phones because they just 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.280 didn't work, and the Wi Fi was pretty much non 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.440 existent unless we were in our place. So it was good. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.400 It was nice to disconnect for a little bit. I 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:15.920 did a little tiny bit of work so I can 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.120 prep for this show. Of course, if you want to 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:19.760 see the highlights of my trip, I've got them on 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.520 my Instagram stories. I did all that stuff, tried to 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.480 do that towards the end of the trip, and I 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.760 also challenged my kids to no roadblocks for the week, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.240 so I said, you know, let's see if you can 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.200 do no roadblocks, which you know I'm not a fan of, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.480 and they did also know YouTube that one they were 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.360 not so successful at. In fact, my kid at the 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.520 end of the week with the roadblocks, he's like, Dad, 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.920 you know what, I actually kind of liked not playing 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.000 roadblocks all week. And I was like, okay, can we 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.080 keep that going when we get home, and he said 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.520 no because he was already on it this morning. I 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.400 did encourage my kids to download Apple Arcade games. So 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.880 if you're not familiar with Apple Arcade, the games there 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.320 are pretty much free of any in app purchase is 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.480 and also, as far as I know, you can use 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.320 them without an Internet connection. So a lot of these 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.680 games that are online on the iPad, you know, they 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.640 show a lot of ads and they you need internet 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.760 to play them. So if you're looking for something that's 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.600 sort of offline. The Apple Arcade games are really good. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.880 It is like, I think five dollars a month to 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.920 do that, but you can sign up for a free 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.320 trial often if you look in the target app. I 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.240 know it's weird, but if you look in the target 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.000 app in the like kind of settings area, there's always 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.880 like an offer for a couple of free months of 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.960 Apple Arcade and Apple Fitness and Apple Music. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.680 So definitely check there. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.360 Also Best Buy a lot of times has deals where 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:36.719 you can get a couple of free months of the 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.760 Apple subscription stuff. The other thing that was really cool 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.400 is this little device from Nintendo called the Game and Watch, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.000 and it's almost like a game Boy, but just for 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.960 one game or maybe two or three. It has like 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.240 three built in games. So we had the Mario one 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.880 and it just has like the original old school Super 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.880 Mario Brothers game, Super Mario Brothers two, and then some 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.840 other game. But it's just a simple little device that 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.880 you can charge up. I was surprised to see that 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.119 it did use USBC, which was cool, and my kids 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.080 loved it. So they would just swap and play and 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:09.800 it was great. And I said, this is like old 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:14.360 school days when you had to watch someone play video games, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.560 you would watch them play while you waited for your 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:18.440 turn to play. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:19.520 And that's how it worked. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.039 Now when I travel, I even though I'm not working, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.400 I love to see the trends that are happening. So, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.120 for instance, I took United Airlines over there. They don't 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.960 take cash on the plane, and for some reason, this 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.120 always trips people up. You're supposed to store your credit 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.360 card in the app before you go, so it's all 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.800 contact lists, and for some reason, nobody could figure this out, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.479 Like it's very farign to like everyone on the plane, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.280 so everyone has their cash out and the flight attends 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.279 they're like, oh, sorry, you can't take cash, and like what? 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.360 And then you gotta go online. You gotta connect your 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.440 device to the Wi Fi. You gotta download the app, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.240 which you can't do when you're in the air. You 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.560 gotta link link up your credit card. So that always 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.440 trips people up, which I always laugh at because I 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.720 see it happen every single time I take United. The 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.800 weather apps do not work at all in Hawaii. So 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.080 I'm not talking about Apple's weather app, which had some 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.719 issues this week. It was literally down for a couple 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.400 of days. I did notice that but if you believe 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.400 the weather forecast that we were looking at on the 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.040 apps before we went to the island, we wouldn't have 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.000 gone because it just seemed like it was horrendous, like 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:24.120 really really bad, like windy, rainy, cold. And we got yes, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.320 we got wind, we got rain, we got cold. But 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.000 as they say on the islands, if you don't like 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.480 the weather, just wait five minutes. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.839 It literally changes. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.120 And so we had fantastic weather for I would say 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.000 ninety nine percent of the time. But if we believe 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.600 the weather app I'm not kidding, we would have diverted 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.599 to a different destination. The other thing I noticed in 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.320 this I absolutely love is kudos to whoever the Toast 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.279 salesperson is on the island. And Toast is a tech 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.320 company that does they do like, let's see, how do 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.640 they describe themselves a restaurant point of sale and management system. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.240 So whoever their salesperson is in Hawaii is they get 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.479 an A plus? Because I noticed a lot of restaurants 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.320 were using their handheld order tablet, which is basically like 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.240 a small kind of phone tablet kind of thingy that 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.840 lets the waiters type in your order as you say it. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.840 So it's nice and a fission and it sends it 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.640 straight to the kitchen. But then, better yet, at the end, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.280 when you're all done, you can just tap your card 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.160 to this little device and they don't need to take 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.680 your card away, which I love. And better yet than that, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.320 some of the restaurants were actually printing QR codes on 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.720 the receipt which you can scan with your phone and 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.480 then use Apple Pay or Google Pay or PayPal or 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.880 Venmo to just take care of your bill immediately. Now, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.840 that only worked when you had a signal, which I 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.240 didn't a lot of the time, so that was kind 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:44.880 of tricky. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.679 But when it did work, it was awesome. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.200 And what was really cool is it would get you 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.880 out of the restaurant faster, because you know, after you're done, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.120 you know you want to dine, We like to dine, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.920 but after you're done, when your bill comes, you're done. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.600 You want to get out of there. You know, the 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.200 wine is gone, the food is gone, the plates are 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.160 piled up. It's like, I want to get out of 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.960 this restaurant, and so all you want to you don't 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.600 want to wait for the waiter to come back ten 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.840 minutes later with your bill because at that point they're 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.400 done kind of serving you and it could take a while, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.240 so I love being able to do that. All right, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.559 let's see what else? Oh, this was good? The ways 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:23.040 to find things to do? So Number one. I usually 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.320 sort on Yelp by most reviewed, but I've noticed that 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.800 sometimes these days, since everyone uses Yelp, it almost might 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.080 be better to go to the second most reviewed restaurant 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.640 because the first one has a line like Disneyland. So 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.160 maybe give a little business to the second restaurant that's 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.360 the most popular because the first is just slammed. Google 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.120 Maps also pretty good. I use this the top rated 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.880 filter to narrow down restaurants that I might like. And 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.760 then on Instagram, this is a cool feature that I 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.880 used to find a couple of places that we went to. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.840 You can actually search on Instagram. It's kind of a 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.080 hidden feature. You do a search and then you click 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:58.800 the city that you're going to, and then there's a 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.560 big X. You click that, and then it shows you 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.560 all of the most Instagram spots in that area, but 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.480 you can sort them by restaurant attractions. Things like this, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.040 and that has found helped us find a couple of 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.160 cool places too, particular on this trip, one place called 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.880 Slappy Cakes, which I thought was a cool concept. You 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.199 make pancakes on a griddle on your table, kind of 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.520 like Benny Hanna, but at your own table for pancakes. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.600 And then this other thing called Maui Fruit Ninja, and 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.040 this guy was like literally standing outside. It's like a 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.280 pop up kind of shop that was standing outside of 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.760 our hotel one day and I found it through Instagram. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.760 So Instagram does work if you're a business, to put 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.160 the time into Instagram because people are on there, people 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.599 are looking, people are noticing. So that is something that 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.440 you should really put some time into marketing because people 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.439 do find places on Instagram. And before you go, I 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.520 should have followed my own advice, which I forgot to do. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.120 I said on Instagram, Oh, you should use offline maps 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.360 your next trip, and sure enough, I forgot to download 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.360 the offline maps, and so when I got there, I 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.040 finally had. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.439 To do it because the signal was so bad. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.280 But definitely, before you go somewhere, download offline maps on 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.160 Google because that basically saves the maps to your phone 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.680 and that will mean that you'll be able to navigate 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.080 a lot easier when you get to your place. I 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.240 did also have one one wild thing that happened while 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:16.360 I was on the beach, and I'm gonna tell you 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.199 after the break because I've got to go to break here. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.760 But I actually had to help save a life. And 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.640 this was not something that was planned obviously, and it's 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.400 not something that you would ever think would happen, but 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.480 I had to do it. And so I will tell 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.760 you the story of how I had to save someone's 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.600 life on the beach in Maui when we come back. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.120 But first, let me tell you about the show We've 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.720 got coming up here. Lots of stuff going on, Google 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.880 dropping support for another product. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.360 I'm going to tell you what that product is. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.720 I got lots of feedback, so later in the show, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.960 I will share the feedback that you have given me. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.240 And we've got great guests this week. Hyundai is going 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.280 to join me to talk about their latest ev that 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.120 they hope will take on the Tesla Model three. The 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.800 CEO of an app that wants to bring I message 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.640 to Android users is also going to joined me, and 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.120 later in the show, my old pal Dan Akerman from CNET. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.359 He's gonna join us to talk all things Tetris, including 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.120 the new Apple TV Plus movie that I watched on 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.920 the plane. But first it's gonna be your turn. Your 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.600 calls coming up next at triple eight rich one O one. 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.360 That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.400 To one zero one. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.000 I'm rich Dmiro and you are listening to rich on Tech. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.640 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:35.240 out talking technology with you. You can find me on 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:40.800 social media at rich on Tech. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:46.760 and Twitter, the website richon Tech dot TV. All right, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.240 so I said I was gonna tell you the story 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.680 about saving a life in Hawaii, So let me let's 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.400 go to Shirley first. Let's do that. Let's see, uh oh, Cheryl, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.400 let's go to Cheryl. Am I saying that right, Cheryl 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:00.000 and Palmdale. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.120 Yes, that's correct. Thank you for taking my call. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.120 How's it going great. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.680 I'm looking forward to hearing the story, and I'm glad 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.440 you were at the right place at the right time 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:10.199 to save a life. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.080 Oh my gosh, it was I think my heart is 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.160 still beating from what happened. But I'll tell the whole 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.040 thing in my anyway. So tell me what's going on 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.040 with you and then I'll get to that. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.319 I just want to know if there's some tips or 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.400 anything that I should be doing to make my internet 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:30.400 router safer. I'm trying to save money. So Verizon was 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:35.200 having a deal to where I could try their Internet gateway, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:36.400 you know the five gear. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.079 Yeah yeah, yeah, or for a year. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.240 For free and if it works out, well, then I 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.040 can cut my you know, internet cord and save myself 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.720 like almost two hundred dollars a month. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:47.160 Yeah. 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.960 Well, I got that same text, and I forgot to 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.439 actually act on it. They said, hey, We're going to 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.560 give you a year of like internet for free, and 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.679 I said, wait what? And then they sent me a postcard. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.400 So I still haven't done it. But the problem is 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.840 now where you are Do you get five G coverage? 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.840 Because I don't where I live. Yeah, okay, see that's 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.920 the thing. If you have five G that's amazing because 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.600 you're going to get a speed that's pretty good. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:08.520 Where I live. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.240 I have only lteve available with Verizon, and so I 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.600 don't get the fat like the speed is really not good. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.320 It's like maybe ten down or something. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.200 Are you getting? Have you done a speed test on 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.880 this new wireless. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:21.000 No I'm not. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.160 Okay, Well here let me want. Yeah, so let me 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.480 tell you what to do. It's just go to the web. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.600 So when you're connected to this new Wi Fi, I 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.440 assume you're running two right now, you have like your 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.360 old and your new one running ye okay, so you 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.280 can tell in your computer which one you're connected to. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.720 One's Verizon, one's the other the other brand. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:38.839 Yeah okay. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.440 So when you're on the Verizon one, just go to 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.880 the website called fast dot com. And so if you 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.720 go on that website on your computer, it will instantly 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.960 do a quick speed test and you can see how 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.240 fast your internet is through Verizon. And so so the 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.960 first thing I would do is connect to Verizon, do 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.760 the fast dot com, and then I would go to 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.000 you know, connect to the other Wi Fi from your 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.360 other provider, and go to the same website and compare 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.600 the SPEEDSKA. Now, typically if you have five G it's 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.800 going to be fine. You don't need a super high 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.440 speed to do all this stuff like the Netflix, and 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.280 unless you're uploading giant video files like I am because 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.160 of my job, you really don't need very fast internet 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.080 up or down. I mean it's you know, twenty five 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.000 fifty will be just fine. You may get faster than that. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.200 With Verizon, I think they guarantee about anywhere from fifty 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.040 two to one hundred maybe. Okay, anyway, so how to 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.040 keep it secure? I actually think that the Verizon Internet 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.560 is very secure because it's it's a wireless connection and 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.840 it's just between you and the tower, and so there's 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.040 really not much you need to do to secure that. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.480 I think what it really comes down to is what 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.040 you're doing on the web and staying secure there. And 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.600 ninety nine percent of the problems that I'm seeing from 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.000 people right now have to do with people getting phished, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.520 some sort of phishing attack where they're clicking a link 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.560 in an email and that's installing malware on their system 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.720 or it's stealing their login or passwords. So that's what 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.080 I'd be most careful about. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.480 Okay, So I opt on the side of caution and 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.920 I don't click on Jack. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.080 Yeap, that's a that's a good I like that. I'm 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.040 gonna get a bumper sticker. I don't click on Jack. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.120 Okay, But what about like that? You know, everything is 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.240 like one nine two one six eight. Do I need 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.640 to change that or anything with that? 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.480 That's that's your IP address, that's basically that's how it 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.560 assigns things into your network, like the different devices you have, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.440 so they all get a little addressed. That's basically how 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.160 the network finds your your devices, and so that's only 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.280 on your inside network and when it comes to your 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.520 outside network, really nobody else can get into that unless 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.640 you give them access, and they have access to your router. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.640 So once you know, the router kind of protects you 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.360 from the outside world. There are devices that can make 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.360 things a little bit more secure. There's a device called 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.960 FIREWALLA if you really want to get you know, really 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.280 want to get fancy and put like a basically a 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.000 hard firewall between you and your internet connection or your 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.480 internet connection in the outside world, you can get something 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.440 like that. It's a little device starts at at like 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.640 two hundred dollars. I don't know if you need it, though, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.680 I really don't. I think it's it's better to just 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.400 kind of be aware because most of these modern routers 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.320 have the privacy protections built in that you need. Now, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.120 if you're looking to say private as you surf, that's 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.000 a whole nother story. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:20.480 That's where VPNs come in. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.800 But I don't think that the average person needs that 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.760 unless you specifically want that. But for what most people 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.360 are doing day to day, you know, just being on 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.280 guard is really the best advice I have. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.560 Okay. And should I change like the password that's like 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.720 on the bottom of the you know, the one that 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.800 came with the box or that doesn't really matter? 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:40.800 I would I mean, I don't think you have to, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.920 because nowadays a lot of those are are they make 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.760 them pretty complex, But I would say that that's something 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.760 that you could probably change, but make sure it's just 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.800 as complex as the one on the bottom, okay. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.760 And so to change it, I would still need to 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.600 log into that to the URURL. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:58.880 The one, nine, two whatever. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.040 And then oh yeah, my last question, because I know 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.800 you have to go like there's WPA two and K 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.480 and three, which one's the best one to get to have? 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.520 So I would go with the what is the default one? 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:12.480 What is it on right now? 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:14.000 WPA two? 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.120 Okay, So I would leave it there, So I don't 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.520 think you need to change that. There's different there's different 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.080 standards that come out over the years, but the old 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.720 one was I believe w EP, which they had. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:27.600 But I would just leave it where it is. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.760 So I think WP A two might be I've got 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.639 to look this up, but I think that's the most recent, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.800 but I would go with that one and stay there. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.960 Okay, thank you so much. All right, Cheryl, and I'm 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.199 loving your show. I was bummed that Leo was leaving, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.840 but excited that you were stepping in. And I listened 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.080 to you on your KFI segment. I can't catch you 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.280 on the news because I might I might work. And 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.640 then plus the five AM one is like I love 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:53.120 you but I. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.120 Can't get well. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:54.720 I love you too. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.000 Thanks so much, Cheryl for listening and watching and all 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.440 that good stuff. And coming up, we're going to talk 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.800 to Hyundai about their new Ionic six. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:04.800 Welcome back to the show. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.800 Rich Demiro here, Rich on Tech on location in Phoenix, Arizona, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.919 where Hyundai has been doing media test drives of the 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.040 new Ionic six EV. They brought me out here to 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.600 test drive it and with me now is John Simmons 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:18.680 of Hyundai to. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.560 Talk about it. John, thanks so much for joining me. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:21.959 It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:23.320 Nice location. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.520 Oh it's beautiful out here. I mean we got the 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.680 great weather. I hope it's not raining in California, but 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:28.240 I hear it is. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.040 It has been for a while now, all right, Now, 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.120 before we get to the ionics six EV Hondai recently 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:40.240 became the world's third biggest car maker after Toyota and Volkswagen. Congratulations, 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.359 And what do you attribute that to? 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:43.920 I think, you know, just great products. 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:48.000 I'm just committed to bringing products that customers really want 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:48.800 to the market. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.280 Okay, So let's talk about this Ionic brand, because we've 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.960 got this new car, but it's part of a EV 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.520 brand that Hyundai is building, the Ionic. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.160 What does that mean and why? 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.320 Well, we're dedicated to an electronic future, electric future in 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.720 terms of vehicle transportation, and we see by twenty thirty 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.400 the market will be at least fifty percent EV, so 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.040 we're preparing for that. And this egm P platform which 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.359 is underlying these three vehicles that we're planning under the brand, 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.640 means these will be dedicated electric vehicles. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:24.160 Now in California, we've seen a lot of momentum with evs. 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.320 Is that happening elsewhere in the US? 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:27.679 You know it is. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.760 Urban areas, of course, are very attracted to it. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.160 It's a good solution. 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.960 Ranges are getting longer and longer in terms of all 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:42.240 electric range of the vehicles, and we're having more amenities 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.959 available and people are seeing the reliable transportation that they 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:46.520 can count on. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.520 Okay, so we're here to talk about the Ionic six. 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.399 This is a car that you're putting up against the 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.800 Tesla Model three and the poll Star two, two really 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:55.520 nice cars. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.840 Tell me about some of the key features on. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.359 The Ionics six, and so some people might be confused. 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.480 They might think, well, wait, I heard of the Ionic five. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.159 Is this the same car and upgrade to that car? 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.680 So it's totally different car than the five. 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:08.320 It is. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.480 It's a four door car. We call it a streamline concept. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.840 It's an aerodynamic four door. It has a trunk, so 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.280 you know it'll anyone who's coming out of a Sonata 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.480 or something like that will recognize it. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.840 It's got this unique design so it almost inside it's 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:25.720 very sizable. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:27.919 Outside it looks. 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.639 Pretty compact and the back has almost like a sport 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:31.680 like design. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:33.040 Was that intentional? 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:33.560 Yeah? 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.480 Everything comes from the aerodynamics, the efficiency of the vehicle. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.399 You ask about the key aspects of the vehicle, the 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.760 selling points. I think the ultra fast charging. We have 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.760 eight hundred volt charging, ten to eighty percent charge in 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.040 eighteen minutes. We also have a four hundred volt charging, 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.919 which is kind of legacy fast charging, so that'll be 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.480 a huge benefit for customers. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.119 Now, the eight hundred vault charging is that mostly for 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.160 home or we see those on the road as well. 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.359 Eight hundred volt is only available at charging stations that 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.479 offer it, so it's something that is the next stage 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:09.560 of ultrafast charging. 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.120 So the car is sort of ready for that absolutely. 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:12.600 Now. 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.240 They talked up recycled materials in the car. I saw that. 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.320 Do you recall any of those in there? 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.880 Yeah, we, among other things, fishing nets, you know, which 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.520 probably get dropped in the ocean a lot. I'm not 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.560 sure the exact you know, composition chemically and nylon or something, 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.520 but we utilize those two make the carpets in the car. 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:31.639 It's interesting. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.879 It's definitely a trend I'm seeing with other automakers, and 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.040 not just auto but also tech gadgets in general, a 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.159 lot more recycled materials. Okay, I thought this was a 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:44.080 cool feature, the phone as a key. So this utilizes 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:48.280 Apple Wallet and also Samsung's pass where your phone literally 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:49.840 becomes a key and you can lend the key to 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:50.520 someone that way. 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.159 That's right, you can send your send your key to 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.520 someone with limited restrictions. If you want, you can rescind it, 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.239 you can take it back. It really makes you know 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.280 sharing your car or emergency situations, you can you can 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.120 with your phone, you can get in and drive your car. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.840 Speaking of tech features, there is one thing that I 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:08.600 think is kind of cool. 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:09.240 I always love. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.880 Hitting Easter eggs, and there is one with this car. 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:15.000 There's a lot of lighting and you call it something unique. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.640 Explain the lighting and also the Easter egg that people 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:18.760 can look for sure. 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.280 The vehicle has a theme of we call parametric pixels. 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.240 You'll see these little dots of light all around the 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.840 car at really over seven hundred of them, and it's 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.480 pretty impressive and they're a design element. There's also a 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.520 statement that this is an advanced, something different you haven't 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.800 seen before. But on the steering where we didn't want 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.760 to go with a conventional brand logo on the steering wheel, 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:43.040 so we decided to put some dots to show some lighting, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.960 dots to show some interactivity with the car in terms 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:47.760 of when you're when you're talking to the car to 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.199 ask it to do something, it can recognize that. But 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.879 we put four dots there and then we recognize that 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:58.080 four dots is actually is actually h and Morris code. 0:22:58.119 --> 0:22:59.280 So it's a little easter egg for you. 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:01.560 Awesome. And I was playing with some of the lighting 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:02.080 last night. 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.240 The ambient lighting people love, you know, switching the way 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.680 the lighting looks inside the car. And the best way 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.240 I can describe the parametric pixels is it's almost like 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:12.520 an eight bit video game. 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.040 It looks really cool and retro but also modern. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.120 Absolutely. I think that's the point. And to your point, 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.640 the ambient lighting is really cool. You know, you've got 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.399 sixty four colors times to over four thousand combinations. You've 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.199 got some combinations that some designers have worked up for 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.280 you to calm you or to energize you. So really 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.720 cool features and lets you personalize the interior of the car. 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.040 Okay, over the air updates. 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.200 Is this something that Hyundai has done in the past, 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:40.919 because I know you're promoting this as a big new 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:41.879 feature for this car. 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.480 Well, we've done it with navigation maps. We've had that 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.720 for a few years, and now we're rolling it out 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.960 to actually the car systems can be updated over the air. 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.120 So that's a huge benefit. We think of it as 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:54.920 the car being able to get better over time. 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:56.760 I mean it's kind of like the smartphone. 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.000 You know, you don't have to go into the store 0:23:59.040 --> 0:23:59.920 to update your phone. 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:01.840 I mean it used to be to update I remember, 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:02.400 you know, if. 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.199 You had a navigation system, you'd have to go to 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.800 the dealership and pay a fee to get that updated. 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.159 And now, of course we just all get our phones 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:10.080 updated overnight. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.399 Right in terms of navigation systems maps, that's you know, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.239 still happening. So it's really a recent development. So this 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.600 is great. As the car is electrified, we become more 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.040 like those gadgets that we have in our pockets. 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:23.840 Okay, I love this feature. 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.840 You actually showed it off yesterday in a demo where 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.600 the car can become a giant power outlet. So one 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.159 of the chargers you plug it into the side of 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.440 the car and you can basically plug something into it 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:36.040 to power it. 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:36.680 That's right. 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.760 Our model has a seventy seven point four kilowatt hour battery, 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.960 which is pretty big. We'll power the car for three 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.359 hundred and sixty one miles, which is for its class, 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:50.200 leading for all electric range, and it eliminates range anxiety. 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.320 But the what we call V to L, which is 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.960 there's an accessory plug that you can take the charging 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.320 port and you can plug it into your refrigerator in 0:24:58.359 --> 0:24:59.959 case of outages. You can take it on a can 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:04.080 camping trip, all sorts of use cases, and you can 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.600 set it so it won't run out your battery. 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.520 Finally, Yeah, so you can say, like leave twenty percent 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:10.640 on my battery so that you know I can get 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:11.120 back home. 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:12.399 Absolutely, you don't want to. 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.879 You know, no one wants to run out their battery 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.400 all the way and be stuck somewhere. 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:21.520 So blue Link is sort of your connected subscription service 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:21.919 that you've had. 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.560 It's kind of the connectivity of the car. 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.359 And there's some pretty major changes to that subscription where 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.879 it's going to be included for the lifetime of the owner. 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.960 That's a pretty sizable shift. 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.719 Yeah, we've made a big investment in blue Link, you know, 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.200 a decade ago, and we've gotten more and more subscribers. 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.520 You know, allows you to turn on your car, remotely 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.360 locate your car, turn on your air conditioning for certain models. 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.400 It's really a great tells you when to service the car. 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.200 And now what we've done is we've made it a 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.119 part of the car. We've made it standard. No subscription 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.000 fees after the initial trial period whether you know, we 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.560 have a long trial period anyways, but you know this 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.240 we go out to ten years now. 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:02.600 So so the Ionic five was a top ten best 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.400 selling EV in twenty twenty two. 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.560 Do you think that will happen with the six? 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.119 You know, we're not focused on volume. We're focused on satisfying, 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.280 you know, what customers want. And this is an alternative 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.400 Theonic five. It has a lot of the same characteristics. 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.320 It has a little bit more range if you want that, 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.960 and the interior has some pretty neat features to personalize it. 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.159 And for folks wondering about Hyundai in general, what do 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.240 you say to them, You've worked for different car companies, 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:29.800 what do you say about the Hondai brand. 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:35.840 Hundai moves fast and they provide quality products. It's it's 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:39.000 really impressive. You know, they never stand still, they never 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.240 take second best. 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.240 All right, John Simmons of Hyundai, thanks so much for 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:44.919 chatting with me today. I really appreciate it. 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:45.640 Thank you. 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.240 I'll have more rich on Tech right after this. 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.800 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.920 out with you talking technology at Triple eight one O one. 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.760 That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.480 zero one. No need to write the number down. You 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.639 can also go to the website rich on tech dot 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.119 tv the numbers right at the top. And yes, i 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.120 will tell my story about saving a life, but I've 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.960 got so many calls to go to here, so let's 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.040 go to my leen first in Fontana, and I promise 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.679 I'll do it at the end of this before the break, Eileen, 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:24.480 Welcome to the show. 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.320 Hi, I'm waiting for your story. I did a Heimnik 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.160 one time and felt like a hero too. 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:31.920 Well, I don't feel like. I mean, my kids thought 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.280 I was a hero, but I was just doing the 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:33.880 right thing, so. 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.880 Right, Okay, anyway, first thing, I think it was last 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.560 week that you mentioned the flighty dot com website and 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.360 it sounded really interesting. And when I go to that website, 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:50.080 all I get is a h offer to buy the dolmazing. 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.639 Okay, the app, it's called flight app dot com f 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.520 L I g h T y app dot com. 0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:58.840 That's yep, that's the part. 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.399 And I used it over the weekend too for the 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.960 for the Hawaii trip and it was fantastic. In fact, 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.639 it was only off by five minutes when we landed, 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:06.480 which was amazing. 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:06.680 Wow. 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.000 So anyway, Oh that sounds so wonderful. Yeah, anyway, the 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.399 other thing I have, I started a business about thirty 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:17.400 five years ago and out of my home and would 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.680 use that number, and at that time I don't. And 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.399 then finally I got an eight hundred number also, but 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.280 we're going to be moving about forty miles away, and 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.040 I think that maybe a different telephone company. And I 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:34.520 didn't know if landline numbers are portable at all, what 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:35.800 to do to make it portable. 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.520 I believe landline numbers are portable just like a cell 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.520 phone number. So if you have a landline, I would 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.320 contact a company that does it. And yeah, I believe 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.480 you can just do it just the same way you 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:49.600 would a cell phone number. 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.520 Okay, I hadn't tried, so I hate to hate. I'm 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:53.760 sorry to wasted your time. 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.480 Well, no, no, no, it's a good it's a good 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.640 question because I think that people, probably a lot of 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.520 people probably keep these numbers because they're wondering if you can, 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.040 and they're worried you can't. 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.920 So if you know you can, it's a good you know, 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.240 it's a good thing. If you want to switch it 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.800 to a cell phone line, you can do that. The 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.440 only thing to know about that is you probably have 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.240 to call your provider and get some sort of pin 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.880 number or account number. Just have everything that. 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.560 Just call your provider and ask all the information that 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.400 you need to support the number, because there are if 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.760 you do it wrong, it could get hung up and 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.960 like never never land. So just really know that information 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:27.960 before you go into it. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.440 And here's something the thing that just happened recently and 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.680 it's kind of frightened me. A friend of mine called 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.880 me and was wanted to know about the money deal 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:42.760 that I had offered, you know, told him about emailing 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:47.320 him about and I hadn't done that. And anyway, he 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.920 said that what I supposedly said him was here I 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.040 got fifty thousand dollars out of this program. And then 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.840 when he followed that, and then they were asking for 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:02.840 fifteen thousand dollars deposit. And I don't know how that happened. 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.200 Well, I'll tell you what happened. 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.040 It sounds like your email got hacked, and so your 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.719 email address got hacked, maybe an old one that you used, 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.120 and what they did was once they hacked that email address, 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.880 they used your account to send out emails to everyone 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.960 in your contact book, and so to keep that from happening, 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.800 you really need to Number one, get rid of old 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.960 email accounts if you're not using them, or at least 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.080 you know you can delete the account or at least 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:33.360 lock them down as much as you can. So typical 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.960 hacks at this point are a lot of social engineering attacks, 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.200 which means that people get they get access to your Facebook, 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.720 they get access to your Instagram, they get access to 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.520 your email, and they use your good name to send 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.479 out information to your friends and try to scam them 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.680 because people will take a second look because it's coming 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.080 from you. And so you want to be sure that 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.760 you lock down your accounts both with a strong password 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.200 and also to factor authentication on every and all accounts 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.640 that are available, because that's really the best way to 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.560 protect yourself. So that's what i'd recommend. Make sure you 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.240 do it, Eileen, and find the flighty app and get 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.480 that landline transferred. You can do it all right, Thanks 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.760 for the call, appreciate it. Phone lines are open at 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.480 eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.080 eight seven four to two four one zero one. I 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.200 mentioned that Google is dropping support for yet another product, 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.240 and I've talked about this on the show. This is 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.280 my problem with Google. I love Google, but they have 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.720 such a short attention span when it comes to things. 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.360 Now you can argue that these things have been out 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.120 since twenty twelve, and okay, fine, it's been a good 0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.680 ten years since people had these these things in their home. 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.320 But the reality is yet another Google product is getting sunset, 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:53.520 and this time it is Dropcam and Nest Secure. So 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.840 in one year, on April eighth, twenty twenty four, you 0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.479 will not be able to use your Dropcam anymore or 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:04.160 the Nest Secure home security system. Now, existing dropcam users, 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.480 according to The Verge, will be able to keep using 0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.520 them until April eighth, twenty twenty four, after which you 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.680 will not be able to access them with the next app. 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.440 So Google, in the meantime is offering a free indoor 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:19.680 wired Nestcam to Dropcam owners who subscribe to Nest Aware. 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.880 So if you're not a subscriber, they'll give you a 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.120 fifty percent off coupon. But if you're a subscriber like 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.400 myself and I have a Nestcam, I can go on 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.320 their website and I can get a free Oh sorry, 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.160 I have a Dropcam. I can get a free wired Nestcam, 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.240 so I will definitely be doing that. The promotion runs 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.320 through May seventh, twenty twenty four, so you have a 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.520 bunch of time. In fact, you have time even past 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:44.360 when the dropcam will stop working. Now, the Dropcam, to 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.840 its credit, did come out in twenty twelve. The pro 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.640 version came out in twenty thirteen, and then of course 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.400 Google bought this company. Everyone wondered what would happen to Dropcam. 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.840 It sort of became Nest. Nest made their own cameras, 0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:02.800 they were more expensive, they had more features, more AI, 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.360 and now Nest Cam is pretty much their brand. And 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:12.120 then the next Secure. That's another story because I believe 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:13.960 when Nest Secure came out and people were asking me 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.000 should I subscribe to this? 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:15.560 I said no. 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.080 And the reason why is because I'm not sure I 0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.320 trust Google with something that you don't really want to 0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:24.600 buy a security system very often, and I've purchased two 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.080 in my lifetime, and it's something that you don't really 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.920 want to sit and replace and change. 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:32.360 So here's a deal. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:37.440 Google recently signed a deal with ADT to offer this, 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.000 you know, their own kind of security system. And let's see, 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.320 do I have the name of that security system. 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:44.880 Let's see. 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.880 I don't know if I have it, but it's like 0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.240 it's like a self installed security system, kind of like 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.800 what simply Safe offers, kind of like what Ring offers. 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.400 But to be perfectly honest, if you're buying a self 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.239 install security system, do you really want ADT? I mean, 0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.680 ADT is the company that people know that you have 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.120 someone come to your house, they install the security system. 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:04.120 It's a three year deal. 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.560 You're not really paying for the system, but then you're 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.880 paying the fifty five to seventy dollars or whatever it 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.640 is a month for your security monitoring. And so people 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.120 that wanted the alternative, they went to a company like 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.960 Simply Safe, they went to a company like Ring, and 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:22.360 now they're giving Nest Secure customers a free next generation 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.640 security system from ad T or a two hundred dollars 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.600 credit to use on the Google Store. I'd use the 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.280 two hundred dollars credit on the Google Store, and personally, 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.319 I would not go with the Nest Secure or whatever 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.560 their new system is, and I would just go with 0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.640 something like Simply Safe, or I would go with Ring, 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.479 because I think those companies are a little bit more 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.880 dedicated when it comes to I mean, I think ADT 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.640 is fine, but I just I don't. To me, I 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.960 want something that's a little bit more forward thinking, something 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.680 like a simply safe that was created as an alternative, 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.719 or something like the ring system that I think is 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.600 very good and it's an alternative. And again, you have 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.319 to subscribe or you you know, there's options for it, 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.560 but it's just easier. And Google says, yes, you can 0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:08.359 cancel the ADT subscription at any time. But the reality is, 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.200 I would say, go out to work. All right, let 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:12.640 me tell you the story about the life. Okay. So 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.400 I'm on the beach in Hawaii, sipping on my tie 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.000 and no joke, you know, I'm reading my book Sun 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.880 is Shining, beautiful beach, and I hear like offen the 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.839 you know, to the right, like help, and I'm like. 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.880 Okay, that's a joke. Like who who says help on 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:28.200 the beach? 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:28.400 Right? 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.520 Like unless it's a joke. And all then all of 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.640 a sudden we hear help, my dad needs help, and 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.879 I'm like, okay, I can't sit here, and I'm looking 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.680 around and people are just standing there like not doing anything. 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.080 And so I must have been a thousand feet from 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.799 where this person is, and so they're out in the sea, 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:44.840 and you know, I look and I'm like, oh gosh, 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.080 like what just happened to this guy? 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:46.720 Like a shark? 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.239 Like what is going on? Like I don't know for 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.799 this kid to scream? Right, So I just jump up, 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:55.000 drop everything, and I run over to I was like, 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.120 you know what this probably this person probably needs like 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.480 one of those things, like those like life raft things. 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.160 And I saw it on the beach when I was 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:02.920 walking in, so I ran, I grabbed it. 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:03.759 I swam out. 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.640 And I'm not like a very physical guy, like I'm 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.520 not like mister athletic, but I can run really fast, 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.759 and so I ran and I can swim fast, and 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.560 I swam to this guy and it was me and 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.879 another person, and he kind of just swam out. 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.000 But I had this little thing. 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.480 I looked it up. It's called a rescue tube. And 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.560 the person we were able to get on the tube 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.279 and drag him back in to shore. And I guess 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:24.759 this guy he was wearing a life jacket, so I 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:26.520 don't know if he couldn't swim or what, but he 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.759 was very thankful that we got him in. He was 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.040 not bitten by a shark. He just I guess lost 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.640 his footing he lost I don't know what he just lost. 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.279 He just couldn't swim back to shore. And so we 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.160 did kind of save his life. I guess in a way. 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:39.640 I don't know what would have happened if we didn't. 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.719 And believe me, I looked up on my Apple Watch 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.799 after this whole situation to see kind of like where 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.080 my heart rate was at that minute, and believe me, 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.600 it was up. So that's my story from Hawaii. 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:50.799 Do the right thing. 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.840 Don't be the bystander effect when you see something happening, 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:55.000 spring into help. 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.719 A lot of people went and dialed nine one one. 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.320 That's fine, but you do need some people that actually 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.239 go and physically helped the person. I didn't know what 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:05.000 I was running into, but I did it, and uh 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:05.360 it was. 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.839 All fine anyway, Thanks for listening. All right, rich On 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.360 Tech phone number, Triple A rich. 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:12.759 One O one. 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:17.200 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here chatting 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.960 technology with you at Triple A rich one O one 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:25.040 eight eight eight seven four to two four to one 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:29.200 zero one is the phone number email address Hello at 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:34.399 Richon Tech dot TV. All right, so let's just go 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.719 to Kevin in Walnut, California, to start off this hour. 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:38.879 Kevin, you're on with Rich. 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:44.120 Thank you Rich, and welcome belated welcome to KFI. So 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.360 glad you were the replacement for Leo. 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.080 And Happy Easter. 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:49.560 Thank you. Christian. 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:49.800 Is. 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.640 I have a whole bunch of old cell phones, sensoring 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.560 and other brands. I want to donate them or destroy 0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.000 them because I don't want any of the data context 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.960 information going to somebody else. 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:03.279 How should I do that? 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.759 So the first question is can you turn these phones on? 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:08.479 Yes? 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.520 I can, Okay, So if you can turn them. 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:14.520 On, then I would go through the settings on the 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.120 Android and are they all Android? 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:18.040 Yes? 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:18.920 Yeah, okay. 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.400 I would go through the settings and I would format 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.440 them so you can go into settings and then it's basically, 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.760 you know, there's different variations depending on the Android model, 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.160 but usually you can go into Advanced. 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.160 And then systems. Let's say I I have a Samsung 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:34.440 right here. 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.960 Let's see if we go into settings and then we 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:42.160 go into let's see about phone and then reset and 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.520 then it says reset all settings, reset, network settings, reset, 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:50.560 accessibility settings, or factory data reset. Factory data reset is 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.719 the one that you want and that will erase all 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.200 of your data, including files and downloaded apps. And you 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.000 can also do the same thing on the iPhone if 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.640 you go into Settings General and then reset and then 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.719 basically you're looking for the factory data reset make sure 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.799 that all the important stuff you need is backed up. 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.239 That's the way that you can, you know, get that 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.160 stuff on a different phone. But if you really want 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.160 to be secure, you know, you might want to do 0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.840 this process twice. But I think that once should probably 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.600 be sufficient for most people. If especially if you're donating them. 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.840 The second you donate these phones to a reputable organization, 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:24.839 they're going to do the same thing. 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:26.080 They're going to wipe them as well. 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.960 So does that help, Yeah, definitely. And I have one 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:36.759 more question, rich Sure, I got a IPTV service from 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:42.080 a Canadian firm to watch mostly Asians programs like from 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:46.520 India and also cricket. Is that illegal in US to 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:47.680 do or is it legal? 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.000 Well, it's tough to know based on how this box 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:56.200 is working. But I call these black boxes IPTV, so 0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.719 it's not necessarily illegal. I mean that's a term that 0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.880 you know, it depends how they're taking this programming. So 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.239 some of these boxes, you know, they offer a lot 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.560 of programming based on streams, and they just put that 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.120 stream in an easy way, or maybe they present it 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.000 in a way that is not the way that the 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.799 provider wants, Like maybe they take the stream outside of 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.600 the app that the provider typically offers it through and 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.560 they just make it easier to find, or they make 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:23.560 it easier to watch. 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:25.200 So it really depends. 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:29.080 But typically I don't recommend those boxes because they do 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.600 operate in a gray area and so you don't really 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.120 know what you're getting, and well, I don't think someone's 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.920 going to come to your front door and arrest you 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:42.839 for it. I don't feel good using something like that 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.560 just because it's not the way it's intended. Like if 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.440 you're getting a service for free that you should be 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.920 paying for, then yeah, there's probably a problem there, like 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.200 it's something that you probably shouldn't be doing. But if 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.239 it's just being presented in a different way, like if 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.640 they're just putting YouTube streams on there or channels in 0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.400 a different way that they are and then they're typically presented, 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.239 then you know, again it's a gray area. So the 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.840 main thing about those boxes is that sometimes the software 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.600 is not up to date, they're the service or the 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.200 support can can be all over the place. I just 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.759 personally don't recommend them because of that reason. So it 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.719 sort of comes down to a personal Uh, you know 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.399 what you're comfortable doing. But I, you know, I work 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.799 in the content creation world, and so personally, I like 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:28.120 to pay for the stuff that I'm streaming. And it 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.960 sounds like Kevin, because you're you're wondering about this, you 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.280 probably already know the answer. So I hope that helps, 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.240 and I do appreciate calling and thanks for the kind words. 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.440 All right, if you want to call in Triple eight 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.560 Rich one oh one is the phone number. That's eight 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:46.680 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.040 This is something that's affecting a lot of folks right now. 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.200 If you have a Western Digital hard drive, they're my 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:57.680 cloud service has been down for a while. It's been 0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.880 down for apparently more than twenty four I know that 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.040 I've been getting emails about this for about a week, 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.040 so I think it's been closer to a week now. 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:09.040 And I just got an email yesterday from Western Digital 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.560 because I had one of their drives in the past 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.359 that I was testing. It was called the eb which 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.840 I really liked and I didn't even know they were 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.279 still supporting it, but they sent an email about this 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:23.200 whole situation. But according to Ours Technica, folks are locked 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.799 out of their local drives many times because of this 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:31.680 my Cloud system. So Western Digital issued a release saying 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.880 that the company learned there's been an unauthorized third party 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.360 that gained access to a number of the company's systems 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.520 AKA they were hacked, and the company believes that the 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.719 unauthorized party obtained certain data from its systems and they're 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.040 working to understand the nature and scope of that data 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.880 AKA they're trying to figure out how many passwords and 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:54.880 usernames were taken and if folks, if these hackers were 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.600 able to access the data on people's drives or that 0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.000 was stored in the cloud. So, as you can see, 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.960 this could be a major problem. This is affecting the 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.200 my Cloud, the my Cloud Home, the MyCloud Home duo, 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.600 the sand Disk eb and the sand Disk I expand 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.239 wireless charger. And I'm a big fan of these sand 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.360 disk products. The eb I was a huge fan of 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.600 when it came out. When it SYNCD with Google Photos, 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.600 that functionality went away, so I didn't really recommend it anymore, 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.520 but I still recommend the sand disc I expand not 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.959 necessarily the wireless charger, but I do like their little 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.920 drive that they have. So the outage means that users 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.160 cannot access data stored in my cloud, and it also 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.600 extends to some of these things that you need around 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.960 my cloud. And so the log in service is just 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.040 not available, and so people are saying, hey, wait, I 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.040 can't access my hard drive that's sitting in my living room, 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.120 but it's not letting me access it because I need 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.200 to log in through the my Drive service or the 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:57.840 MyCloud service. So what I got from Western Digital and 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.680 I'm not sure this effects or this will extend to everything, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.480 but there is a feature that allows you to access 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.000 your stored files locally using a feature called local access. 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.080 And this feature allows you to directly access your personal 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.239 files from a Windows or Mac computer that's connected to 0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.719 the same network as your device. But you have to 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.880 enable it. So you go to your browser and you 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:21.440 connect to your device's dashboard. 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:22.920 And remember we were talking about this earlier. 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.600 It's usually a number of IP address that's printed on 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.440 the bottom of the device, so you navigate there and 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.200 look for the local access feature. You enable that feature 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.759 and you can create a new local access account and 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:39.560 then using that account, you can go through and access 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.239 the files on your drive. But this is again not 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.560 very good. We're seeing this more and more and I 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.239 just can't believe how many times I'm seeing these companies 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:54.520 that are getting hacked. And it's a problem because these 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.839 online services that we rely on are not usable during 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.279 that time, could be a week, could be a couple 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.399 of days. But also your information is then put at risk. 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.120 So if you're using the same login information for this 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.440 MyCloud service as you use for other services, if they 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.000 were able to get this information from Western Digital, now 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.799 they've got your log in for another service that you 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.960 use the same log in and password for. So the 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:25.799 big thing to know here is that you always want 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:30.040 to use unique log in, unique password for everything that 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:33.080 you're logging into because that way, if one of these 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.080 services gets hacked, they can't use it on a different service. 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.560 And Disney Plus moving on now is launching with ads 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:45.040 on Roku. So if you are waiting for Disney Plus 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.279 and that AD supported plan, which is a little bit 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:51.520 cheaper than the AD free plan, actually it's not, it's 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.319 the same price. They just made it ad supported, but 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.520 it is available on Roku, and so Roku users can 0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.799 now use Disney Plus with or without ads. It took 0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.800 them about four months to get this going. The reason 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:07.680 probably because Roku likes to get a cut of ad revenue. 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.600 So the way Roku works is that all the ads 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:14.120 that are shown on there, some of them make money 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.799 for Roku. So let's say you're Disney Plus and you 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.040 stream a show and it has, you know, six minutes 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.680 of commercials. Roku gets a small cut of the commercials 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.000 and that ad time on that service, even though it's 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.360 Disney Plus. It's a unique way that they kind of 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.920 came up with stuff. So Roku is really an advertising platform. 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.560 And that's why those Roku boxes are so cheap, because 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:40.080 Roku sells you those at an inexpensive cost, and then 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.640 they make it up on the services that you subscribe to. 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.400 In fact, they may even get a cut of the 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.680 price you pay to Disney Plus for this plan. And 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:50.720 so that's probably why it took so long, because Disney 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.960 Plus is probably like, ah, we're big, we don't need 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.839 to pay you anything, and Roku is like, now, we're 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.080 not gonna put you on our platform unless you pay US, 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.680 and Disney Plus said, Okayku, you're pretty big, so we'll 0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.239 give you a little cut of that money. It's all 0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:08.720 about recurring revenue streams at this point, because it started 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.759 out where the services would just put the apps on 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:13.920 there and they didn't really care because it was good 0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.120 for everyone. They would sell the hardware, they'd sell other 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.920 movies and things on the side. But now someone like 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.200 Roku is saying, yeah, we're pretty big out there, We're 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.759 like one of the top streaming platforms. We're going to 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:26.879 take a cut of some of this money that people 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.839 are spending on these things. So that's what's happening there. 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.720 But if you have Roku, you can now use Disney 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:33.560 Plus with ads. 0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.640 I believe is it six. 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.680 Ninety nine still when it came out, it was six 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.239 ninety nine, so I'm not sure how much it is 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.040 at this point. I pay for like the Disney Bundle. 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.399 According to GameSpot back on December eighth, it was eight 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:50.240 dollars a month. 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:51.840 Anyway, I got to look that up. 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:53.879 I'm not sure, but it's it's one of these things 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:58.880 where Disney Plus added the ads supported plan, but it 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.719 was the same price as pep or paying before they 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:05.439 had ads, so it was like ad free. So anyway, Yeah, 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:07.719 it's confusing. All I know is every month you get 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:09.720 these these bills and you're like, did I watch Disney 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:10.479 Plus this month? 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:12.239 Did I? 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:12.719 All? 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:12.880 Right? 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:14.359 Coming up on the show, we still get a lot 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.200 more to talk about. We're going to talk to the 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.680 CEO of a company that is attempting to bring I 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:20.880 message to Android users. 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:21.680 And then later in the. 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.680 Show, we're going to talk about the movie that I 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.319 watched on the plane, Tetris on Apple TV. Plus my 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.520 friend Dan Ackerman from CNAT we'll talk He wrote a 0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.960 book on Tetris, so we'll talk all about that, plus 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.160 your calls at Triple eight rich one on one eight 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.200 eight eight seven four two. 0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.759 Four one zero one. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.880 Rich Demiro here chatting about technology with you at Triple 0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:50.080 eight rich one oh one. Max is in Newport Beach, California. Max, 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:51.839 Welcome to rich on Tech. 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:54.200 Thank you for taking my call. 0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:54.560 Rich. 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.560 I'm a little older guy. If I know what button 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.960 used to push, I'm good. Otherwise I'm not ethnically savvy. 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:02.279 Read more. 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:07.040 My homes seven years ago got new TVs and new 0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:10.600 stereo stuff and everything I want to cut the cord. 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.600 I'm apprehensive because I don't know I need help. I 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.600 don't know who to call. I know what I want 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.600 to do, but I have no clue what to do 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.760 or how to do it. Okay, how do I find 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.080 somebody that can come to my house and help me? 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:27.920 Okay? You want someone? 0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.440 Well, I mean most of the time people di why this, 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.279 Because that's what's so great about it is that you 0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:34.480 don't really need someone. 0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:37.240 So how many TVs are we talking here? 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:38.200 Four? 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.360 Okay, so you got four TVs and you want to 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.480 have the same programming across all of them? 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.480 Yeah, and I have I have Sono system in the house. 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.280 Also, Oh wow, you've got sons one of my favorites. 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.080 I mean, I was just playing with mine this morning. 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:52.600 I love it. 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:56.319 Okay, I need somebody to come out and really show 0:49:56.440 --> 0:50:00.000 me how to work stuff, okay, because I'm confused. 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.000 Okay, Well, I mean, look, there's a lot of there's 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.759 a lot of local people that can do that. There's 0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.279 a lot of national services that can do that. If 0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.800 you want someone that's you know, local, I would just 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.840 go to yelp and find someone that maybe that mounts 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:17.040 TVs that runs a service like that that can do 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.400 you know, they do more than mount TV's, they run cable. 0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:22.919 They really know their stuff. So if you want someone 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.239 to kind of, you know, a little bit more handholding 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.640 to get through this, that's who i'd recommend someone. 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.400 What do I look under on Yelp? 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.600 I would search let's see here, let me let me 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.920 actually search here. It's probably someone that like cable installation, 0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:43.839 let's see, or video camera installation, because those people are 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:47.000 usually you know, the people that know what they're doing 0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:51.200 with all this stuff. They don't do just that, you know, 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.040 like the people that I had come mount my TV, 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.439 they would do all kinds of stuff, they would run 0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:01.040 video cameras IP. So I would search something like that. 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.680 You can also, let's see if you search tech support, 0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:08.840 like tech support in home tech support. You can do that, 0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.560 and there's people like that'll bring up a whole bunch 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.399 of a whole bunch of stuff. Network. I mean, there's 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.839 computer I T services. I mean there's a whole bunch 0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.239 of people that will do that. Your computer guy, I 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.440 mean there's a lot. So I would search something like that, 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:25.279 But realistically, I think it's easier than that. I think 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.160 what you need to do do you watch cable? Do 0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.520 you need cable TV or like certain channels? 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.640 I want sports, I want to I want to get 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.440 you know, I want to get some of the local channels, okay, 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:37.840 you know, like HGTV and the golf channel and some 0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:38.839 of the sports. 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.279 But we only used to. 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:44.800 Be to streaming services Netflix and Prime for some reason. 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:50.680 My Prime thing it's very slow and uh everything. But 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:52.000 but I want to be able to get some of 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.520 the local channels and to get my streaming. But I 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:57.080 want to cut the cable. 0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:00.479 Okay, well you mean the cable like the s Yeah, 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.799 the cable is yeah, yeah, exactly. Now here's the thing 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.960 with cutting the cable is that when you cut the cable, 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.839 typically the internet price goes up, and so that could 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:11.759 be a little bit of an issue. So right now 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.279 you're probably on some sort of bundle deal that they 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.799 give you the cable and the internet all in one. 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.000 When you call them up and say, okay, I'm cutting 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.360 the cable part, they say, okay, well your internet's. 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:21.960 Going to go up to this price. 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.720 So you know what you need to do is really 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.959 have the cable ready to go. You live in Newport Beach, 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:32.600 you may be able to get the Verizon five G 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:34.840 like the wireless box we were talking about, or the 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.120 T Mobile Home Internet, So that could be a way 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.080 to save on some of your cable costs. But I 0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:41.319 think that at the end of the day, you need 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.680 to pick a streaming device, which I'd recommend either a 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:48.480 Roku or an Apple TV would kind of get expensive, 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.080 but you told me you have so nos so that 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.560 tells me that you've got, you know, a decent setup 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.680 there and you're not afraid to spend money, so that's good. 0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.239 Maybe an Apple TV that's kind of simple, and then 0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.120 a Fire TV that's also really easy that's from Amazon. 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.799 And then you need the cable service. If you want 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.600 to get something like HGTV and you want to get 0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.160 something like the Golf Channel, you're probably going to have 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.799 to look into a service like YouTube TV, which is 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.560 going to run like eighty bucks a month. There are 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.680 other services out there. There are services that are cheaper 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:23.239 like Filo. Filo TV is another one, and that will 0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.480 give you some of the channels. It doesn't do a 0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:29.840 lot with sports, and so this is seventy channels for 0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:30.839 fifty bucks a month. 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:32.600 And if let's just I'm just going to look up 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.880 and see if golf is in there. So Golf channel 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.319 is not on there, and so what you want to 0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:41.040 do is I would look up golf channel streaming service 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.480 and see which channel, which streaming provider has that that's 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:47.200 the cheapest. 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.359 And so if you go on their website, it will 0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.600 should tell you that I'm looking at this right now. 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:54.920 So you need to figure that out. And then you 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.960 need to just once you get all those things in line, 0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.279 connect them all up. So you've got you UG in 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.040 the streaming stick, and then you've got your service, and 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.400 then you've got you already said you have Netflix and Prime. 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.960 Now the only other thing you said is that your 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.359 Prime is really slow. So that tells me you may 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.799 have an issue with your router. And since you're going 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:17.080 fully streaming, you may want to upgrade your network to 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:18.720 something like a mesh network system. 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.000 I recommend systems from. 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.239 Euro E E r O and also Villo v I 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:25.759 l O, but there are many others that will do it, 0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.279 like Neckgear ORB. But also you may be able to 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.560 just go through Spectrum and ask them for a Wi 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:32.520 Fi extender and they have those as well. 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:34.560 All right, good question coming up. 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.440 We are going to talk to the CEO of Sunbird Messaging. 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:42.719 They are bringing I message to Android. You're listening to 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:47.960 rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:51.520 DeMuro here hanging out talking technology with you at Triple 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.879 A Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four 0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.919 to two four to one zero one. Email address hello 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:02.120 at rich On Tech TV. Tom wrote in and said, Hey, 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.760 I was listening to your description on the show regarding 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:08.000 United Airlines and the purchase of snacks using a credit card. So, 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.200 if I understand correctly, you have to use United Airline 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.080 app United Airlines app with a card attached. You can't 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:16.440 pay with a credit card by itself. 0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:17.040 Is that correct? 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.879 Yes, that's what I was trying to explain. So that's 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.279 what trips people up, is that you cannot present a 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.879 credit card on United Airlines to pay for snacks and 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:27.399 so and by the way, they do give you some 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:28.000 free snacks. 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.400 You don't have to do this. This is if you 0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:29.719 want to. 0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:32.280 Buy one of their boxes or a burger or something 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.800 like that. But yes, you need to have the credit 0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.960 card stored inside the app before you get on the 0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:40.719 airline because you cannot even though there is Wi Fi 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:44.440 on the airline, you can't download the United Airlines app 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:48.720 once you're on the airline, so once you're in flight, 0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:50.160 it doesn't work, so you have to set this all 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:53.680 up before and so literally I just watched people, you know, 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:55.680 as the flight attents are going down the aisles, and 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.040 they're just explaining this to everyone because it is kind 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:00.600 of confusing, like when are you not able to for something? 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.200 So it'd be nice. I get why they're trying to 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:06.239 do the contact list payment stuff, but it would be 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.279 nice if they were able to accept credit cards. But 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:10.440 they've got all kinds of stuff they even accept. I 0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.360 think it's like Venmo or PayPal by like QR codes, 0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:16.280 so they do give you options just if you're flying United. 0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:20.239 My advice download any airline you go on, download, even 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.800 if it's just a one time thing, download the app 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.000 before you get on the plane because a lot of 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.560 times you do get some benefits and features by downloading 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:30.920 the app that you wouldn't typically get if you didn't. 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:35.120 Like for Southwest, for example, you can activate free messaging 0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.200 on the airline even if you don't pay for the Internet. 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.640 You can still get like I message and stuff and 0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:42.799 some other things as well. Same thing on United, even 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:44.959 if you don't pay for the Internet. You can still 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.640 activate free messaging, but you have to activate it first. 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.240 So that's that's how it all works, all right. Speaking 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.920 of messaging on the line, we've got Danny Misra. He 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:58.840 is the CEO of Sunbird Messaging. They are bringing I 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:03.960 Message and other messaging apps to one messaging app called Sunbird, 0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:05.600 which is available on Android. 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:07.520 And Danny, welcome to the show. 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:10.640 Yeah, thank you, Rich, thank you for having me, and 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.400 happy holladays all those celebrating. 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:16.040 Thank you. So let's talk about Sunbird. 0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.360 So this has been an app that a lot of 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:22.760 people are excited about because not only does it bring 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:26.320 I Message to Android, but it brings a unified messaging 0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.840 we've gotten there's so many messaging apps at this point, 0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.160 and so tell me what you're building with Sunbird. 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:32.360 Yeah. 0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:37.920 Absolutely, we are so very excited. And so you know, 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:41.480 there's a massive, massive, pent up demand to fix messaging 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:44.240 between androids and iPhones. I've never had an iPhone personally. 0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:48.120 I've had an Android my whole adult life here and 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:50.760 so I was one of those people that had to 0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:54.240 ask my parents who were maybe babysitting my kids, who 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:57.640 were sending me videos blow resolutions you know, being in 0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.800 the group chat where everyone basically made fun of me 0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:03.840 and you know, kept on doing like to emphasize dislike. 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:05.600 If you know, if you have an Android, then you 0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:07.440 know what I'm talking about. You know that that kind 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.280 of torture. And and so Garn and I, who have 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.080 known each other for you know, over a decade, and uh, 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:15.240 and he has this background in messaging and I have 0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:18.440 a background in cybersecurity and it, et cetera, said we 0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:21.640 can solve this problem. But then that the way that 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.120 we solved it meant that we can do the same 0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.560 thing for any messaging type. That was the big aha 0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:31.400 moment there. So I Message is actually just you know, 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.520 maybe you can call it the prototype for some bird, 0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:37.240 but it happens to be just this ridiculous demand for 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.080 androids and iPhones to finally communicate well with each other. 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:43.440 Right yeah, well, okay, so let's talk about that whole situation. 0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:47.960 Because Apple overnight can launch I Message on androids and 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.760 they would be the number one messaging app pretty much 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.400 in the US. Maybe I don't know about in the world, 0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:55.640 because there's a big emphasis on I Message here in 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.000 the US, which is just not present anywhere else in 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.840 the world. So why is Apple not releasing that. Let's 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:02.280 start with that. 0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:06.200 Well, I can't really speak for them. I just know 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.760 that they've been asked about it, and you know they've 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.400 said it's not a priority for their users, right, So 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:16.960 Apple focuses on their users and their ecosystem. If they 0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:20.800 were to create let's say, an API where it opens 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.400 up I message to the world, that's a huge business 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.640 in itself, and that would take a couple of years. Similarly, 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.600 you saw you know, Google do that with OURCS, right, 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.400 create a messaging protocol based on opening up an API, 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.240 and there's only one company that actually has access to API, 0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:41.720 which is faandsome. So you know, to create a business 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:44.160 around an API, it takes years, and by then, we 0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:47.360 do believe we'll have millions and millions of users that launched. 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.520 We know we're going to have millions of users. 0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:52.160 So okay, I guess my big question is, well, how 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:53.080 does it work? Number one? 0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:55.360 So you sign up on I mean right now, it's 0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.120 a wait list, so there's some beta users and I 0:59:58.160 --> 0:59:59.680 got a little taste of this. I got to try 0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.360 this out myself, and so it's pretty simple. You just 1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:05.880 kind of sign in with your Apple ID. But let's 1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:09.160 talk about security because that you know, Apple doesn't necessarily 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:12.280 allow that per se like they don't. It's not like 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.720 with Google where they allow you know, you can authorize 1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:17.520 third party apps with your Google app or your Google 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:20.840 logging right, like Apple doesn't really have that provision for this, 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.840 So you're sort of doing something that Apple may not like. 1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:26.960 But I mean, tell me how that's how that's gonna work. 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:29.560 Yeah, I mean it's it's a little hard to get 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:31.520 into the technical weeds, but at the end of the day, 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:32.800 that's what the invention is. 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:33.560 And so. 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.800 Two parts of this right privacy, security and confidentiality being 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:41.760 one of them. You know, Darren the inventor is twenty 1:00:41.800 --> 1:00:45.040 years in fintech dealing with banks and technology before ten 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.600 years of messaging, and me personally, I have twenty years 1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:50.360 in it, you know, in the last ten of which 1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:53.960 has been in cybersecurity and compliance, you know, dealing with 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:58.040 things like GDPR in Europe and ISO twenty seven thousand 1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.760 and one, auditing and stock to readiness right and the 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:04.560 California Consumer Protection So I know, privacy in and out, 1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:09.200 and a huge part of this app is not storing data, 1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.840 so that ties into the second part of your question, 1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:14.680 which is the actual invention here? So what is the invention? 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:18.880 So the invention is maintaining encryption, right, So using the 1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:22.360 native authentication. So for you, when you logged into I message, 1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:25.760 it's user name, password and two factor authentication. But when 1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.600 you add what's app into some bird, you're just scanning 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:32.360 the QR code so without getting two and that same idea. 1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:34.760 Now it's in some bird also, so the next app 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:37.720 it's going to be using their authentication. So we're basically 1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:40.840 building let's call it relay services in the cloud, right, 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:43.080 So relay services that get and this is what we 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:45.760 have a patent filed on as well. Right, So relay 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:50.200 services in the cloud that automatically open up the relay 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:53.560 maintain the encryption, right. And the cool thing is is 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:56.280 that as soon as it goes through our servers, it 1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:59.040 automatically gets purged from our servers at the same time, 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:02.320 because if you're not storing data, you can't have compliance issues. 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:06.040 You can have hacking issues, right if you don't store data. 1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:06.439 Right. 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:10.600 My guest right now is Danny Mezrahi, CEO of Sunbird, 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:13.640 and they are building a messaging app that not only 1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:17.360 brings I message to Android, but also a unified inbox 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:21.160 for all different types of messengers including WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:27.160 your text messages, later, Telegram, Discord, RCS, slack. You want 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:28.760 one place for all messages. 1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:29.680 That's what you're. 1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:31.120 Building, right, Rich. 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:33.720 Remember when we first got Outlook for the first time, 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:36.000 and I don't know your age, but you know I'm 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:37.760 old enough to have had Outlook with you know, I 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:41.320 attached my AOL address. You know, that's maybe too much 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:43.880 information now really show on my age, but you know 1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:47.240 I attached my AOL, I touched my hot Hotmail, I 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:49.960 attached my Yahoo all to Outlook, right, which is called 1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:53.440 the thin client. So think some bird as a thin client. 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:53.919 Right. 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:57.040 So it's it's just the window to see all these messages. 1:02:57.560 --> 1:02:57.720 Right. 1:02:57.760 --> 1:02:59.560 But when you look at all the data and you 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:02.400 see that people are spending four point two hours every 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:05.680 day scrolling through their messaging apps, going back and forth 1:03:05.720 --> 1:03:08.400 between them, right, we want to claim a couple of 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.720 those hours. We want to make it a little easier 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:12.480 for people to say I don't have to go or 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:14.920 you know, we have I have a friend that said 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:18.440 that he got a message from a Facebook friend and 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:20.800 it was a very important message, and it was a 1:03:20.920 --> 1:03:23.880 very timely message and basically a friend was in need 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:26.840 and he didn't have any other people that he communicated 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:28.280 on Facebook Messenger with. 1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:29.360 Right, so you have it. 1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:31.400 Yeah, I missed it, right, And this happens a lot 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:34.560 with LinkedIn messages. You know, these these services that you 1:03:34.600 --> 1:03:36.920 sign up for and you may not check very often, 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:39.360 but if they're all in one place, of course you're 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:42.480 going to see them much much quicker. What about cost 1:03:42.600 --> 1:03:44.080 for all this? Are you going to charge for this 1:03:44.200 --> 1:03:45.960 service when it comes out? And when do we expect 1:03:45.960 --> 1:03:46.320 to see this? 1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:48.080 Yeah? 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:49.760 I mean right now, it's a free app and it 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:53.000 plans to be free through launch, and you know, with 1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:55.640 millions and millions of users, frankly, we can keep it 1:03:55.680 --> 1:03:58.280 free because then we have funding. I mean, you know 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:01.080 this is not brain surgery, right, so you know we 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:02.600 want to keep it free. We want to get the 1:04:02.720 --> 1:04:05.000 user count up, and we want to keep our costs 1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.360 a little. You know, we're getting our costs lower and lower, 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:11.280 which has been great, and so we're going to keep 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:11.640 it free. 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:11.840 Now. 1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:14.960 We do think we're going to have some premium premium features. 1:04:15.400 --> 1:04:18.080 I don't want to, you know, do too much spoilers 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:20.280 in terms of you know, what are going to be 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:22.640 premium premium. I mean, we have some really cool features 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:25.320 like chat, GPT, changing the tone of a message, and 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:28.000 you know, face Android to Android face time, right, we 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:30.920 have some really cool features and store. The big, the 1:04:30.960 --> 1:04:34.040 big subscription model that we do four C for now 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:37.080 would be unlocking the rest of the apps. We know 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:39.880 at launch we're going to do, you know, I Message 1:04:40.000 --> 1:04:44.080 and WhatsApp or and or WhatsApp and Facebook and or 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:47.600 SMS and or r cs. Right, we think there's going 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:50.280 to be four or five you know, free apps at launch, 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:52.240 and we can get tens and tens of millions of 1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:54.640 users just based on that, and that's what we want. 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:55.440 That's absolutely what. 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:56.440 We want, you know. 1:04:56.480 --> 1:05:03.120 And then after that, if you want to unlock Telegram, Signal, line, discord, right, LinkedIn, messaging, 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:06.400 team spaces, all of these are doable, right the way 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:08.680 that the invention is any messaging app that we want 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:10.640 to bring into it, we can do that based on 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:11.160 the invention. 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:13.960 Interesting, all right, We're gonna have to leave it there, 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:17.600 but it's very intriguing. And you know, like I said, 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:19.480 I did get to try the I Message on there 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:20.080 and it works. 1:05:20.200 --> 1:05:21.439 My messages were coming through. 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.280 I was sitting there texting from an Android phone and 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:27.040 my wife and kid were getting the messages on their 1:05:27.080 --> 1:05:30.160 iPhones and they were in blue, so blue bubbles on 1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:35.920 Android both ways, it did work. Danny Mezrahi from Sunbird Messaging, 1:05:36.480 --> 1:05:37.640 Thanks so much for joining me today. 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:39.240 How can folks find the app? 1:05:40.400 --> 1:05:41.240 Yeah, sumbird app. 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:43.560 I mean you could put some bird messaging into Google. 1:05:43.600 --> 1:05:45.400 At this point, we're coming up a lot. You know, 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:47.640 we've been very very fortunate with a lot of great 1:05:47.720 --> 1:05:50.160 you know, coverage and and but you know slombird app 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:53.080 dot com. You know, share this with your Android friends, 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:55.760 share this with you know, anyone who's you know, making 1:05:55.920 --> 1:05:57.760 green bubbles in the group chat, and we love more 1:05:57.800 --> 1:05:59.440 people on the wait list, and soon we're going to 1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:01.320 get the app there everyone. We're working, you know what, 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:03.440 off on making sure that that happens. 1:06:03.720 --> 1:06:05.960 All right, Thanks so much for joining me today. Appreciate it. 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:08.160 Coming up, we are going to talk about best Buy 1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:11.520 launching recycle by mailboxes. So if you have a bunch 1:06:11.520 --> 1:06:14.160 of cords and cables and gadgets laying around the house, 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:16.800 you can now send them in for recycling. Details on 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:22.560 that coming up. Oh, rich Demiro here Rich On Tech 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:26.760 triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven 1:06:26.840 --> 1:06:29.360 four to two, four to one zero one. 1:06:31.840 --> 1:06:32.400 Good song. 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:36.120 Courtney recommended that we play how to Save a Life 1:06:36.120 --> 1:06:40.720 by the Fray thanks to my story about helping to 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:45.160 save a life in Hawaii. But I'm telling you, I 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:47.920 know I'm laughing now. But the thing the thing to 1:06:48.040 --> 1:06:52.160 know this thing, where's my note? I wrote this down. 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:55.720 What it's called a rescue tube. That is what it's called. 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:57.640 I took a picture of this thing. It's like kind 1:06:57.640 --> 1:07:00.760 of that long floaty thing that is. That was the 1:07:00.880 --> 1:07:04.120 key to the entire rescue operation because I knew that 1:07:04.200 --> 1:07:06.080 this adult I would not be able to swim back 1:07:06.120 --> 1:07:08.880 to shore. But with the rescue tube, that floaty thing 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.320 that was, I told him to grab onto that and 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:13.840 I pulled that had a nice big cable like a cord, 1:07:14.120 --> 1:07:18.280 and so I basically pulled him back into shore with that. So, yeah, 1:07:18.960 --> 1:07:20.560 learn where the rescue tube is. When you go to 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:23.080 a beach, learn where the rescue tube is. That's my 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:25.240 advice to you. All right, let's go to Ron in 1:07:25.320 --> 1:07:28.400 Orange County. Ron You're on with Rich Welcome. 1:07:28.120 --> 1:07:30.760 To the show. Oh, thank you, thank you. 1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:32.960 Hold on and take you off to speak of Okay, 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:33.720 take off speaking. 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:37.200 I have a small business, sure, and I've been operating 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:40.600 it for years, and I'm trying to get better organized. Essentially, 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:43.560 when someone calls in, I want to be able to 1:07:44.320 --> 1:07:49.320 input in some type of software, some affordable software that 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:53.360 I can dis log everything in, name, the phone number, 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:56.040 what they're calling about, so forth. 1:07:58.080 --> 1:07:59.560 And do you have this software already? 1:08:00.200 --> 1:08:03.480 No, I'm asking you, Okay, what would you recommend an 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:05.200 affordable software? 1:08:05.280 --> 1:08:06.120 If not free? 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:08.400 Well, the good news is we live in an amazing 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:12.560 time right now, with so many great software options. So 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:14.920 I think what you're talking about is CRM software. Have 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:15.600 you heard that term? 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:16.200 I assume have. 1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:20.000 I believe now you know this is not a small 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:22.360 business show. I'm not a small business owner. Well actually 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:25.000 I am, but I you know CRM is like customer 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:29.720 relationship management or something like that, right, And so you 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:31.960 know you want to put this information in there and 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:34.320 be able to remember the last time you talked to 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:37.040 this person, remember the last time they called, what they're 1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:39.400 you know, and just it's it's kind of an address book, 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:44.559 but with more features, right right? Okay, So the big 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:48.559 company that I think revolutionized this world is Salesforce. They 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:51.840 came out with CRM software that was, you know, all 1:08:51.880 --> 1:08:55.000 in the cloud and very different. So I think that 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:58.519 that's probably a you know, kind of the basic CRM 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:01.280 software that everyone knows, right and you have you heard 1:09:01.320 --> 1:09:02.400 of that company Salesforce? 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:03.920 No? No, I haven't, all. 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:05.720 Right, So Salesforce, I think is kind of like the 1:09:05.720 --> 1:09:07.519 gold standard when it comes to this, and I'm just 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:10.320 going off of what I've heard in the past, what 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:14.280 I know, but Salesforce is kind of like the big one. Now, 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:18.479 with that said, there may be competitors that offer stuff 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:21.080 that is cheaper. You said you wanted something that is 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:24.760 less expensive, and so I'm looking at theirs. They're big 1:09:24.760 --> 1:09:29.439 product customer three sixty, and I'm trying to look for pricing. 1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:33.120 And that's where it gets a little tricky because it's 1:09:33.160 --> 1:09:36.280 saying try for free, but it's not really saying how 1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:39.280 much this is going to cost me. And so what 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:41.360 I would do is you can do a free trial, 1:09:41.520 --> 1:09:43.560 which on their website, but I would look for some 1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:47.240 other alternatives to this. And so when I look for alternatives, 1:09:47.280 --> 1:09:52.920 I'm seeing something called HubSpot hub Spot, and HubSpot puts 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:54.639 the pricing right on the front page. 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:55.639 Now this. 1:09:57.080 --> 1:10:01.920 H that's yeah, that's that's a little expensive for that one. 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:04.320 So you're talking eight hundred dollars a month. That's probably 1:10:04.320 --> 1:10:07.439 not something you want to do. Then you've got something 1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:12.000 called Zoho Zho and I'm looking at that. That's fourteen 1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:14.080 bucks a month. That's sounding probably a little bit better. 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:15.240 Huh huh. 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:21.040 Okay, So Zoho is something that's no, it's flexible, so 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:24.000 there's no lock in, and it's looks like it's something 1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:28.000 that might be worthwhile looking at. But those are just 1:10:28.080 --> 1:10:29.880 a couple of the companies that I would look at. 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:33.479 And the thing that I would do too is have 1:10:33.560 --> 1:10:38.759 you ever used the search the versus search versus versus? 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:41.919 So if you type in something on Google Salesforce versus, 1:10:42.600 --> 1:10:44.439 and then it comes up with all of the other 1:10:44.720 --> 1:10:48.639 companies that compete against that, So it's saying Salesforce versus, 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:55.320 HubSpot Service, now, Zendesk, Shopify, So one of those companies 1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:57.759 may be something. So it's just a little bit of research. 1:10:58.080 --> 1:10:58.280 Now. 1:10:58.320 --> 1:11:00.960 Also, if you go on YouTube and you search hey, 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:05.799 best CRM software Small Business twenty twenty three, that's another 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:09.480 way to look for the companies that people are recommending, 1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:11.240 and also you get a little taste of what they 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:13.479 can do and a little idea of the features, and 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:14.960 you say, oh, yeah, that's the feature I want. 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:16.120 That's that's the cool thing. 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:18.840 Some of these may be more complicated than you need, 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:21.200 but that's the way that I would sort of research 1:11:21.280 --> 1:11:22.200 that situation. 1:11:22.840 --> 1:11:25.360 And you know what kind of company you're running. 1:11:26.360 --> 1:11:28.000 I have a legal service business. 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:30.479 Okay, so legal services, so you know you want to 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:32.720 keep track of your customers and all the things that 1:11:32.760 --> 1:11:35.559 they need and maybe even include some documents in this 1:11:36.000 --> 1:11:39.280 online service as well. So but that does that help 1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:41.040 you to kind of get you on the past? 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:43.640 Great your he I do appreciate. 1:11:43.320 --> 1:11:45.920 All right, Ron, good luck with the legal services. People 1:11:46.040 --> 1:11:48.320 need them, you know when you need them. You don't 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:50.439 want to need them, but sometimes you do, and when 1:11:50.479 --> 1:11:53.479 you do, you know it all right. Before we go 1:11:53.520 --> 1:11:55.160 to break here, let me tell you about best Buy 1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:59.080 launching these new recycle by mail technology boxes. This is 1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:01.320 so cool because someone like me, I have so much 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:03.439 I don't want to call it garbage, but so much 1:12:03.439 --> 1:12:05.720 stuff laying around the house. You know, you get these 1:12:05.800 --> 1:12:08.200 cables that you don't want to part with. You've got 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:10.240 an old gadget here and there that you just don't 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:12.640 You can't really throw out gadgets in the trash. You 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:16.160 don't want to for environmental reasons. You want to recycle 1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:18.720 them properly, and so the first thing to do is 1:12:18.760 --> 1:12:21.120 to donate them if you can. But if they're not 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:23.559 something that you would donate but you've just been holding 1:12:23.600 --> 1:12:26.800 on to. They now have these prepaid boxes from best 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:30.360 buy dot com two options. A small box is twenty 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:33.120 three bucks. It carries up to six pounds. A medium 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:36.320 box can carry up to fifteen pounds. You order the box, 1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:38.479 you pay it. When it gets to your house, you 1:12:38.560 --> 1:12:40.760 fill it up with all your old gadgets lying around 1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:44.160 the house, whether it's a tablet, cords, keyboards, whatever it is, 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:46.080 and they've got a full list of products that they 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:49.040 will recycle. You take the prepaid box to your nearest 1:12:49.160 --> 1:12:52.240 UPS drop off or you schedule a pick up with UPS, 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:56.400 and boom, your electronics are recycled. Best Buy says they 1:12:56.400 --> 1:13:00.000 are the nation's largest collector of e waste. They've recycled 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:03.960 more than two point seven billion pounds of electronics. This 1:13:04.040 --> 1:13:05.880 is a pilot program, so we don't know if this 1:13:06.000 --> 1:13:08.760 is going to continue. But there's also other ways you 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:11.519 can recycle stuff. You can drop off old electronics at 1:13:11.520 --> 1:13:14.040 best Buy. Sometimes they may charge you for some of 1:13:14.080 --> 1:13:15.720 that stuff, so it depends what it is like. If 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:17.680 it's a big TV, they may charge you a little bit. 1:13:18.240 --> 1:13:21.120 There's an online service called gizmo Go that I recommend. 1:13:21.160 --> 1:13:26.639 I've been to their recycling facilities gizmogo dot com. When 1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:29.280 I had to recycle my mom's computer, I brought it 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:33.040 to Staples and it was completely free. And I know 1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:36.440 that they ended or they stopped the program during the 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:39.599 COVID pandemic, but check out Staples as well because they 1:13:39.600 --> 1:13:42.479 have a really good recycling program. Hopefully they've started again. 1:13:43.360 --> 1:13:44.880 All right, Coming up later in the show, we're going 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:48.080 to talk Tetris. I watched the movie on the plane. 1:13:48.160 --> 1:13:49.920 It's on Apple TV plus. We're going to talk to 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:53.480 my friend Dan Ackerman about all things Tetris plus. Walmart 1:13:54.360 --> 1:13:57.120 the next place you might charge your EV. You're listening 1:13:57.200 --> 1:13:59.920 to Rich on Tech, Give me a call eighty eight 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:04.679 rich one O one. All right, now we're getting into 1:14:04.680 --> 1:14:10.800 the weeds with these songs. Ah oh, you know, you 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:13.920 don't know how you feel after you help save someone's life. 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:17.759 Until you do it. And I'm telling you that handshake. 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:20.600 I got a handshake from the guy. He was just 1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:23.640 like thank you. And you know, my kids and my 1:14:23.720 --> 1:14:25.200 wife they were by my side. 1:14:26.200 --> 1:14:28.720 They felt like a movie. We were running off into 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:29.680 the sunset. 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:31.840 And then I ran to my chair and finished my 1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:35.439 my tie. But I'm telling you, I looked at my 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:37.760 Apple Watch my heart rate and I could see the 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:40.280 exact time when I darted up from my chair to 1:14:40.360 --> 1:14:42.360 run out into the water. And again, like I said, 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:45.120 I'm not I'm not like a mister athlete, but I 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:48.559 can run fast. I do run and I can swim 1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:53.080 decently fast too. Anyway, let's go to a welcome back, 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:55.880 by the way, Rich DeMuro here, Rich on Tech Talking 1:14:55.920 --> 1:14:58.519 Technology triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:01.559 seven four to two for to one zero one. 1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:05.400 Doug is in San Jose. Doug, you're on with Rich. 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:08.800 Hi there, Thanks for taking my call. 1:15:09.120 --> 1:15:10.440 Thanks for calling. 1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:15.400 I'm wondering if you are aware of any problem nationwide 1:15:15.520 --> 1:15:21.000 with comcasts keeping their system up and running. And the 1:15:21.080 --> 1:15:24.719 reason I asked is because there's been an ongoing problem 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:30.240 in my area of San Jose, which is ironic giving 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:32.240 it the capital of Silicon Valley. 1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:33.640 Yeah, that is. 1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:36.320 And the just in the past three or four days 1:15:36.320 --> 1:15:40.880 there have been system attages. This one is going on 1:15:41.000 --> 1:15:42.160 twenty four hours. 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:46.479 Oh wow. Okay, so and this happens quite often. 1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:46.559 Now. 1:15:46.560 --> 1:15:49.680 I've heard people complain about this service up there, but 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:52.200 I you know, I don't live up there, so I 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:55.200 don't really know. And I feel like internet service can't 1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:58.360 really be out nationwide for a long way or for 1:15:58.439 --> 1:16:01.719 a long time, because you know, that would be pretty wild. 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:03.920 So how long has it been out for you? And 1:16:03.960 --> 1:16:04.639 why is it out? 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:09.120 I have no idea why it's out. Contasts will never 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:15.160 provide that information. A few months ago they came through 1:16:15.200 --> 1:16:19.480 and upgraded the system to quote unquote improve your experience. 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:26.840 Hasn't exactly hasn't exactly done that interesting? I mean I've 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:30.400 been on the phone with their phone techs who are 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:35.240 ten thousand miles away, and then I've talked to their headquarters, 1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:38.559 which is I think is in Minneapolis. I'm not sure. 1:16:39.880 --> 1:16:42.400 I mean, I've been up and down the system, even 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:47.120 complained to the FCC, and that's because I'm a cranky 1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:50.439 old man. But I need my I need my Internet. 1:16:50.560 --> 1:16:54.519 I get it. Yeah, it's frustrating. It's totally frustrating. And 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:57.960 this is the reason why I hate the fact that 1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:01.639 many people only have one option for Internet at their home, 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:05.160 maybe too if you're lucky, I mean, and the second 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:07.639 one may not be that good. But we are seeing 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:12.320 more options come along with these wireless companies, the verizons 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:16.040 of the world, the t mobiles, even the satellite Internet 1:17:16.120 --> 1:17:18.400 and some of these wireless internet companies. But I think 1:17:18.840 --> 1:17:20.679 one of them is not doing too well, so that's 1:17:20.680 --> 1:17:23.479 not really worked out pretty good. So most people, like 1:17:23.520 --> 1:17:25.680 I said, they don't have that many options, and so 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:28.280 you're kind of stuck with this service. And also, you know, 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:30.400 it comes down to the price you pay. Like you know, 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:32.640 maybe you have a different option, but it's more expensive. 1:17:33.680 --> 1:17:35.920 But let me kind of bring this out so that 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:40.400 if you're having trouble with your service, you understand there's 1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:41.960 a couple of things you can do. So first off, 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:46.439 I know that Exfinity has an outage map and you 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:49.280 can put your address in so a lot of times, 1:17:49.280 --> 1:17:51.639 if you're having trouble with your internet Internet it can 1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:54.800 be localized to your home or to your neighborhood. Something 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:57.639 that's happening there. You know, someone runs into a power 1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:00.320 line and you know, brings down the line. So I 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:02.800 understand that these things are going to happen, but if 1:18:02.800 --> 1:18:05.760 it's going out over and over, it could either be 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.720 the hardware on your end, it could be your neighborhood, 1:18:08.920 --> 1:18:11.760 or you know, it's just something is not right. And 1:18:11.800 --> 1:18:13.640 so the first thing I would do is check the 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.799 Infinity outage map, and I would say almost every single 1:18:17.360 --> 1:18:20.559 service at this point that's online, you know, including ones 1:18:20.560 --> 1:18:22.960 that you don't pay for something like an I message, 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:25.080 they all have these status maps. So if you type 1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:30.559 in like Apple service status on the website on Google, 1:18:30.960 --> 1:18:33.839 it will tell you if these things are functioning properly. 1:18:33.920 --> 1:18:35.800 So you can see a system status right now for 1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:42.040 everything that Apple offers, the app Store, Apple Account, Apple Arcade, FaceTime, 1:18:42.160 --> 1:18:45.160 Find My game Center, home Kit. It will tell you 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:47.160 if these things are down. So if you're having a 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:49.920 problem with I Message, you can go there and see, Okay, 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:51.760 is it just me or is it everyone that's having 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:53.920 a problem with this stuff. So that's one way of 1:18:53.920 --> 1:18:58.160 doing it. Again. Infinity has its own which I'm looking up. 1:18:58.160 --> 1:19:01.920 It's exfinity dot com slash slash status map and you 1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:04.240 type in your address and it will tell you if 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:07.639 that address is having a problem. And so in this case, Doug, 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:10.040 you can type in your actual service address. I'm not 1:19:10.080 --> 1:19:12.080 going to ask you for that on the radio, but 1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:13.720 you can type that in and it will tell you 1:19:14.120 --> 1:19:16.040 is this a problem for everyone or just you? 1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:18.280 So that's Exfinity. 1:19:18.880 --> 1:19:21.240 Whether whether your service is Infinity or AT and T 1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:24.720 or whatever, they should have something similar to that. The 1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:28.240 other thing is a website called down Detector, and this 1:19:28.280 --> 1:19:31.720 website is a sort of a bigger website that will 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:34.960 tell you what's having trouble at any given time. And 1:19:35.000 --> 1:19:37.719 if you look the top things that are having trouble 1:19:37.760 --> 1:19:40.759 at any given time or always the Internet services themselves. 1:19:40.800 --> 1:19:43.320 So I'm looking at the top kind of things that 1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:49.479 are down. Spectrum, Verizon, Starlink, T Mobile, AT and T 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:52.560 is on there, and then you go down Inxfinity is 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:56.519 actually lower on the list cos you know it has everything. 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:59.320 But you can see a little line of when people 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:01.960 submit things that are wrong with these services. So if 1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:05.479 you see a spike and the line looks like it's red, 1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:08.160 that means there's a problem at any given time. And 1:20:08.240 --> 1:20:11.160 so this is downdetector dot com. You can type in 1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:13.800 the service you're having problem with. Let's say, or Instagram 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:14.439 isn't working. 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:16.080 I N S T A g r M. 1:20:16.479 --> 1:20:20.120 You type in Instagram and it will show you if 1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:23.479 Instagram is having trouble, and let's see, does it go 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:25.439 by Instagram Maybe it doesn't, Maybe it just goes by 1:20:25.520 --> 1:20:26.639 Facebook or Meta. 1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:27.320 Let's see. 1:20:27.360 --> 1:20:31.560 I'll type in Facebook, and so here's Facebook telling you 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:33.439 you know, and then you can type in a problem. 1:20:33.479 --> 1:20:36.639 You can say I'm having a problem with Facebook, website, app, login, 1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:39.799 something else, and then it gives you the outage reports 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.439 for the last twenty four hours. You can see if 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:44.160 you're having trouble, and there's been a whole bunch of 1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:46.920 people that are saying we have outages as well. You 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:50.360 can understand that. So that's a website called downdetector dot com. 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:54.160 And then this is another website that's really good. So 1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:57.479 if you're having trouble accessing website, like people will tell me, hey, Rich, 1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:00.360 I'm having trouble accessing Rich on tech dot tv and 1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:02.519 I go on my phone and it's working just fine 1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:05.160 for me. So this website, if you go to down 1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:09.080 for Everyone or just me dot com, you can type 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:11.040 in a website so I'm gonna type in rich on 1:21:11.120 --> 1:21:15.080 tech dot tv and it goes to that website from 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:19.600 its own browser, and so it checks to see is 1:21:19.640 --> 1:21:22.920 it down for everyone or just you? And it's telling 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:26.360 me it's just you. Rich on tech dot tv is up. 1:21:26.760 --> 1:21:28.800 And you can check a different website if you want, 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:31.720 so if you're having trouble with a specific website, you 1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:35.760 can see if it's for everyone or just you. So 1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:38.840 those are three good resources for looking up you know, 1:21:38.920 --> 1:21:42.160 what's going on in your area, Doug. I know it's frustrating, 1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:45.960 and especially with Internet, it's really frustrating when it goes down. 1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:49.000 Thankfully we have our phones. You can pop into that 1:21:49.040 --> 1:21:51.160 hotspot if you need it. But when it's going on 1:21:51.240 --> 1:21:53.600 a couple of days or you know, weeks even, or 1:21:53.640 --> 1:21:55.960 if it's just happening over and over, that's when it's 1:21:55.960 --> 1:21:58.680 time to try to figure out what exactly is going on. 1:21:58.800 --> 1:22:02.400 So good question. Thanks for in and appreciate the call. 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:08.320 Walmart launching coast to coast EV fast Charging network across 1:22:08.360 --> 1:22:11.240 all of its stores, so they are building their own 1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:14.320 coast to coast EV fast Charging network by twenty thirty, 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:16.439 so basically you will be able to go to a 1:22:16.520 --> 1:22:20.120 Walmart store and charge your car fast. And this is 1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:22.719 kind of the trend that we're seeing with these fast chargers. 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.040 They're starting to pop up at more and more stores. 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:28.280 So Walmart says they already have thirteen hundred fast charging 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:33.120 stations across two hundred and eighty retail stores with Electrify America. 1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:36.040 But this is going to be a coast to coast 1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:41.040 kind of thing. So Walmart says that they have, let's see, 1:22:41.200 --> 1:22:43.559 by twenty thirty, they're going to build this. They say 1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:45.680 they have a store club located within ten miles of 1:22:45.680 --> 1:22:49.519 approximately ninety percent of Americans, okay, and it'll be at 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:52.640 super centers, neighborhood markets, and Sam's Club, so you'll be 1:22:52.640 --> 1:22:55.200 able to go into the store and charge while you 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:57.759 go into the store. They didn't say if it's going 1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:01.120 to oh, yep, in line with our purpose, we aim 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:04.160 to offer everyday low price charging, so this is not 1:23:04.200 --> 1:23:06.679 going to be free charging, but they will have low prices, 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:09.360 and we know Walmart definitely has low prices, so it 1:23:09.400 --> 1:23:13.479 should hopefully be pretty reasonable. But again, this is the 1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:17.000 charge that we're seeing. You know, these chargers are showing 1:23:17.080 --> 1:23:19.360 up at more and more stores, which I think is 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:21.720 very convenient because they have the space, They've got the 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:25.160 parking lots, and it's very easy to charge inside these 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:27.680 stores because you know, are outside these stores because you 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:29.960 can run in for something. And really, when it comes 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:32.400 to electric car charging, let's be honest, most people are 1:23:32.439 --> 1:23:35.040 charging at home or at work. This is for when 1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:36.720 you're on a road trip or you just need a. 1:23:36.760 --> 1:23:37.439 Quick fill up. 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:41.360 To have a location like Walmart is very convenient because 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:43.400 if you know where one is, or if you're even 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:45.240 on a road trip you see that Walmart sign on 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:47.519 the side of the road, you know, Okay, I'll take 1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:50.120 a little pit stop at Walmart, I'll charge my car 1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:52.360 and I'll be on my way, and I know it's 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:54.880 going to be a pretty good price. So glad that 1:23:54.920 --> 1:23:55.960 Walmart is doing that. 1:23:56.800 --> 1:23:57.160 All right. 1:23:57.200 --> 1:23:59.240 Coming up on the show, we're going to talk to 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:02.000 my pal Dan Ackerman from CNET. 1:24:02.120 --> 1:24:03.120 My day's at c NEET. 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:05.200 It feels like it's further and further away, but we're 1:24:05.200 --> 1:24:06.920 going to talk to Dan Ackerman. He wrote a book 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.599 about Tetris, and then when I saw the movie, I said, 1:24:09.600 --> 1:24:12.160 we got to talk to Dan about the movie and 1:24:12.240 --> 1:24:15.000 Tetris in general. All these years later, I'm still playing 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:17.479 Tetris and yes I had the original game Boy, so 1:24:17.520 --> 1:24:20.080 we'll talk to him. And we'll also talk about Google 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:24.080 bringing air Drop, their version of air drop to Windows. 1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:26.240 So if you have an Android phone, it is now 1:24:26.400 --> 1:24:29.760 much easier to transfer files from your Android phone to 1:24:30.280 --> 1:24:33.759 your Windows computer. All that plus your calls at triple 1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:36.639 eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven four 1:24:36.680 --> 1:24:38.600 to two, four to one zero one. If you have 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:41.920 a question about technology, give me a call. Phone lines 1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:47.200 are opening. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:51.000 to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology with 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:54.960 you at triple eight rich one oh one eight eight 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:58.840 eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1:25:00.200 --> 1:25:02.919 We were talking about recycling Earlier. I mentioned the Staples 1:25:02.960 --> 1:25:05.400 recycling and it went away during COVID, but. 1:25:05.360 --> 1:25:05.960 It is back. 1:25:06.560 --> 1:25:10.200 So probably one of the easiest places to recycle stuff 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:14.000 is your local Staples store. So they said that they 1:25:14.000 --> 1:25:19.040 have recycled one hundred and fifty three million is that million? Yeah, 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:23.560 pounds of technology since twenty twelve, and you can basically 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:26.760 just bring it in for free as far yeah free. 1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:30.400 I was pretty impressed. We brought back my mom's computer 1:25:31.040 --> 1:25:34.000 and I couldn't believe how easy it was. In fact, 1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:36.080 look at this. They'll give you five bucks in rewards 1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:39.640 when you recycle or shred in store. And this is 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:41.200 not We're not you know, you can do like things 1:25:41.200 --> 1:25:43.840 like ink cartridges, but this will. They'll take back almost anything. 1:25:43.880 --> 1:25:48.280 Adapters and cables, all in one, computers, battery backup cable, 1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:54.880 satellite receivers, calculators, camquarders, E readers, fax machines, GPS devices, 1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:56.600 all this stuff that you have sitting there and you 1:25:56.600 --> 1:25:58.280 don't want to throw in the trash because it's bad 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:01.080 for the environment. You can now it to a staple store. 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:06.680 So what can't be recycled there? Air conditioners, alkaline batteries, appliances, 1:26:07.760 --> 1:26:11.080 floor model, printers and copiers. Can you imagine? Can you 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:14.040 imagine unloading that from your car? Like here you go, 1:26:14.240 --> 1:26:19.080 let me, here's my copyer, my xerox machine, kitchen, appliances, lamps, 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:24.080 large servers, large speakers, smoke detectors, televisions. Don't bring TVs there, 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:28.759 they cannot recycle them at staples. Computers, yes, how about monitors, yes, monitors, 1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:32.799 you can printers, all that good stuff. So anyway, really 1:26:32.840 --> 1:26:36.040 easy to recycle there. I was quite impressed, but the 1:26:36.400 --> 1:26:40.519 box now we have options. In fact, next week I'm 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:44.120 going to a recycling plant down in Carlsbad, and so 1:26:44.160 --> 1:26:46.080 I'm going to see first hand. You know, Earth Days 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:47.639 coming up, so I'm going to see firsthand how they 1:26:47.640 --> 1:26:48.799 recycle some of this stuff. 1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:52.200 And it's pretty wild. I mean they it's like melting 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.120 and shredding and all this good stuff. 1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:57.240 Better Business Bureau put out some tips about how to 1:26:57.240 --> 1:27:01.400 give yourself a spring digital makeover. They're teaming up the 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:06.040 National Cybersecurity Alliance to remind you that not only when 1:27:06.080 --> 1:27:08.360 you spring clean like this today, I opened up my 1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:09.760 garage and I said, we got to get rid of 1:27:09.760 --> 1:27:12.360 some of this stuff. And so not only do you 1:27:12.439 --> 1:27:14.559 want to get rid of all of your physical clutter 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:17.040 in your house when you spring clean, remember the digital 1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:20.439 clutter and also security. So they gave a couple of tips. 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:21.840 I'm gonna read some of them here because I thought 1:27:21.840 --> 1:27:23.879 they were pretty good. I mean, it's stuff you've heard before, 1:27:24.360 --> 1:27:26.719 but I think that it's good to reiterate this stuff. 1:27:27.200 --> 1:27:32.559 So Number one, lock down your login, so make sure 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:37.479 that your logins are complex and unique. So if you're 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:40.800 having trouble with this concept, I'm telling you you can't 1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:45.320 add a one or a exclamation point to your word 1:27:45.560 --> 1:27:47.680 that you use over and over and expect it to 1:27:47.720 --> 1:27:50.479 be safe. That is just not the case. So please 1:27:50.840 --> 1:27:54.240 use complex passwords. You can generate them even if you 1:27:54.280 --> 1:27:57.840 don't use a password generator. Okay, if you just type 1:27:57.840 --> 1:28:01.640 in password generator on the way and you go to 1:28:01.800 --> 1:28:07.080 a website like Norton Password Generator, one Password password Generator, 1:28:07.120 --> 1:28:12.040 Bitwarden Password Generator, all of these websites have password generators 1:28:12.120 --> 1:28:15.320 online and you can just go there and generate a 1:28:15.400 --> 1:28:17.479 secure password. So even if you don't want to use 1:28:17.479 --> 1:28:20.160 one of those apps, I always recommend you can actually 1:28:20.200 --> 1:28:22.920 just do this online and write down the password. That's 1:28:22.960 --> 1:28:26.639 better than nothing. So do that two factor authentication. I've 1:28:26.640 --> 1:28:30.479 talked about it a million times. Please please please put 1:28:30.520 --> 1:28:33.800 that on any account that will accept it. Update your 1:28:33.840 --> 1:28:37.360 system and software, update your software. 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:38.519 You have to do it. 1:28:38.600 --> 1:28:40.760 I know we don't like change, but you have to 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:44.000 do this because that's what keeps your software secure and safe, 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:45.599 and it's what the hackers do. 1:28:45.640 --> 1:28:46.920 They use exploits. 1:28:47.160 --> 1:28:50.360 So when software gets old, there are known exploits, there 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:53.720 are known ways of cracking that software and getting in 1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:56.919 and doing bad stuff, and so if you update your software, 1:28:57.120 --> 1:28:59.320 you're staying at least a little step ahead of some 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:01.559 of the problems that have been found and they're patched. 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:03.479 Back it up. 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:07.440 Back up your personal and workplace data by making electronic 1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:11.400 copies backups of your most important files. Use the three 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:14.759 two one rule to help guide you. You want three 1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:17.679 backup copies. I know it sounds like a lot, two 1:29:17.680 --> 1:29:21.040 different media types and one offline in a separate location. 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:23.759 Let me give you an example of the iPhone. Okay, 1:29:24.320 --> 1:29:27.560 now when you say three different places, so one of 1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:30.000 those places could be your phone, and then you want 1:29:30.040 --> 1:29:32.640 it in two other places. So maybe you plug your 1:29:32.720 --> 1:29:36.919 phone into your computer and you do a full backup 1:29:37.000 --> 1:29:39.479 of that computer or that phone that is stored on 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:40.040 your computer. 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:41.439 Okay, now that's two. 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:43.639 Now you've got your data on your phone, you've got 1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:45.360 it on your computer, and then you want it in 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:48.080 a third place. So let's say you use Google Photos 1:29:48.120 --> 1:29:52.080 for your photos, use iCloud for your important files. That 1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:55.240 would be three places that would be sufficient. So again, 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:57.200 I know we don't want to do this stuff, we 1:29:57.200 --> 1:29:59.240 don't want to pay for storage online, but do it 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:01.840 because if it has weepens to you and you'll lose 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:04.280 your stuff. And believe me, I get the emails. It's 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:05.960 not fun people lose this stuff. 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:06.599 We had an email. 1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:08.960 We had a person the other day who said they lost, 1:30:09.240 --> 1:30:11.680 you know, thirteen thousand photos on their phone. 1:30:11.400 --> 1:30:13.040 Because they just didn't check the backup. 1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:15.839 At the very least, if you're an Amazon Prime customer, 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:19.200 just download the Amazon Photos app. It's free and it 1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:22.400 will download your photos or will it will back up 1:30:22.400 --> 1:30:25.000 your photos to the cloud unlimited. It's not going to 1:30:25.040 --> 1:30:27.800 do videos unlimited, but it will do photos unlimited. If 1:30:27.840 --> 1:30:30.960 you're an Amazon Prime customer, take advantage of that. At 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:33.519 least get the pictures uploaded. And by the way, you 1:30:33.520 --> 1:30:35.960 can't just download this app and never open it again. 1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:38.080 You have to open up the app every once in 1:30:38.080 --> 1:30:41.000 a while to make sure that you are actually backing 1:30:41.080 --> 1:30:42.080 up your pictures. 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:44.479 I also like Google Photos. 1:30:44.479 --> 1:30:46.840 Of course you've heard me talk about that clean up 1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:49.000 your online presence. So this is a good one too. 1:30:49.000 --> 1:30:51.160 And this is something that I do often on my phone. 1:30:51.280 --> 1:30:53.280 I will just go through my phone and just kind 1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:57.200 of delete apps that I don't use anymore. That's good 1:30:57.240 --> 1:30:59.080 to do because if an app you know has access 1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:01.280 to your contacts, your photos, you're not using it, you 1:31:01.280 --> 1:31:02.080 don't really want that. 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:04.240 Also, make sure that. 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:07.400 You get rid of old accounts, and so if you're 1:31:07.520 --> 1:31:10.080 not using an account anymore, just go ahead and delete it. 1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:13.040 There are ways to delete these accounts. There used to 1:31:13.080 --> 1:31:16.920 be a website that I've liked. Believe it's just delete me. 1:31:17.520 --> 1:31:20.800 And so if you go to just delete me, just 1:31:20.880 --> 1:31:24.040 delete dot me, it will give you a whole list 1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:26.080 of ways to delete accounts. So if you want to 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:30.640 delete your Instagram or your Aol or anything Adobe, it 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:31.760 will tell you how to do that. 1:31:32.760 --> 1:31:33.840 There was another one I liked. 1:31:33.840 --> 1:31:37.479 I'm trying to remember what the other one wash Gosh, 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:39.240 I can't remember right now off the top of my head, 1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:43.240 But there was a there was another website that would 1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:45.160 help you delete these things. But if you just google 1:31:45.760 --> 1:31:49.639 the service that you want to delete, along with delete, 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:52.920 you should find instructions online with how to delete that stuff. 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:54.240 So please do these. 1:31:54.120 --> 1:31:57.800 Things, clean up your online presence, and just get these 1:31:57.840 --> 1:32:01.360 things in order before it's too late. All right, Coming up, 1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:04.559 we're gonna talk to Dan Ackerman. He is author of 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:07.760 The Tetris Effect. We're going to talk all things Tetris. 1:32:08.160 --> 1:32:10.639 Coming up, one of my favorite games in the world. 1:32:11.040 --> 1:32:15.800 You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 1:32:15.840 --> 1:32:20.240 On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. 1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:24.280 We're gonna get to the feedback section of the show 1:32:24.320 --> 1:32:27.040 coming up a little bit later, but first we're gonna 1:32:27.040 --> 1:32:31.200 talk about one of my favorite games in the world, Tetris. 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:35.280 I watched the new Apple TV Plus movie on the airplane, 1:32:35.400 --> 1:32:40.120 and I thoroughly enjoyed it. A little nostalgic, little fun, 1:32:40.240 --> 1:32:44.759 little action, little intrigue, little saga. Here to talk about 1:32:44.800 --> 1:32:47.960 all of it is Dan Ackerman, who I used to 1:32:48.000 --> 1:32:50.240 work with at Cenet. He wrote the book called The 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:54.120 Tetris Effect, which is available on Amazon way before the 1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:54.680 movie came out. 1:32:54.760 --> 1:32:55.679 Dan, Welcome to the show. 1:32:57.080 --> 1:32:58.400 Hey, Rich good to talk to you. 1:32:58.720 --> 1:32:58.840 Now. 1:32:58.920 --> 1:33:01.120 Dan, let's just be clear the show was not based 1:33:01.160 --> 1:33:04.600 on your book, but since you're the Tetris expert, I 1:33:04.720 --> 1:33:06.519 figured we'd chat about Tetris. 1:33:08.240 --> 1:33:11.080 Yeah, exactly. The producers of the movie did a great job. 1:33:11.120 --> 1:33:13.200 They did not license my book, but it covers the 1:33:13.200 --> 1:33:14.519 story in a very similar way. 1:33:15.040 --> 1:33:18.360 So let's talk about Tetris. First off, what drew you 1:33:18.680 --> 1:33:20.439 to this game to write a book about it? 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:24.000 You know, what I was really interested in is Less 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:25.840 the game, which is an important game, one of the 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:29.040 most important games ever, but really the story behind it, 1:33:29.080 --> 1:33:33.400 which reminded me of kind of a Silicon Alley tech 1:33:33.520 --> 1:33:36.360 startup story, except it took place in the Cold War 1:33:36.439 --> 1:33:40.200 Soviet Union in the nineteen eighties. But the parallels between 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:42.919 this and you know, the story of the service Facebook 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:45.240 or any other social media company or a big tech 1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:46.920 company really jumped out at me. 1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:50.839 And so was the movie. The movie is called Tetris. 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:54.679 It's on Apple TV plus. Was it did it say 1:33:54.720 --> 1:33:56.439 based on a true story? I think it did so. 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:58.000 I mean, how much of this was true as you 1:33:58.040 --> 1:33:58.519 watched it? 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:00.240 Yeah? 1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:03.000 I got to say most of it was pretty was 1:34:03.080 --> 1:34:06.040 tracking pretty well with the history as I wrote it, 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:08.160 up until maybe like the last twenty minutes where they 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:11.200 get into the the KDP agents beating people up and 1:34:11.280 --> 1:34:14.920 the car chases. Everything up until then is actually pretty 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:17.680 dead on, even though it seems like you have these cartoonists, 1:34:17.840 --> 1:34:20.519 you know, characters in the Soviet Union trying to shake 1:34:20.560 --> 1:34:22.640 people down, and you have all this confusion about all 1:34:22.680 --> 1:34:25.479 these people buying for the rights of the game. Really, 1:34:25.960 --> 1:34:28.679 I'd say seventy five eighty percent of that stuff happened 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:30.960 pretty darn close to how they put it in that movie. 1:34:31.160 --> 1:34:33.759 Wow. So how did you do research for your book? 1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:37.240 You know, when I was sitting down to tell this 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:39.760 story in my book, obviously I got in touch with 1:34:39.800 --> 1:34:42.559 a lot of the primary people in the you know, 1:34:42.840 --> 1:34:44.679 in the story, and a lot of the characters usually 1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:47.719 portrayed in the film are people I interviewed for the book. 1:34:47.880 --> 1:34:53.719 Henk Rogers, like Depositov, even Starter Maya, our Colla from Nintendo, 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:55.800 Howard Lincoln, So a lot of the characters, and they 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:58.479 all had great stories to tell, and they all told 1:34:59.240 --> 1:35:01.280 the stories from their own point of view, so there 1:35:01.280 --> 1:35:03.240 were some discrepancies and you kind of have to go 1:35:03.320 --> 1:35:05.720 through it and say, this guy remembers it this way, 1:35:05.840 --> 1:35:08.000 this guy remembers it that way, and try to figure 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:10.720 out what the most likely version of the truth. 1:35:10.600 --> 1:35:13.479 Wash and what is so great about Tetris? I mean, 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:14.320 I know what I mean. 1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:16.760 So of course I got the Game Boy back in 1:35:17.000 --> 1:35:18.880 I don't know what year it was, but that was 1:35:18.920 --> 1:35:21.000 kind of like the first thing I remember having as 1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:23.400 a kid was like this, I think it was ninety dollars. 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:26.599 I bought a like KB toy store, and I think 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:29.320 Tetris was the game that was included with it, right, 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:31.400 I mean that was a. 1:35:31.360 --> 1:35:34.280 Real big part of Tetris's long term success was getting 1:35:34.320 --> 1:35:36.880 packed in with that game boy. And it happens very 1:35:36.960 --> 1:35:39.280 much like you saw in the Texas movie where Hank 1:35:39.360 --> 1:35:42.639 Rogers convinced Nintendo to put this new game in Tetris 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:45.280 instead of something like a Donkey Kong game or a 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:47.920 Mario game or a Zelda game, even though those games 1:35:47.920 --> 1:35:51.559 have huge built in audiences. And the pitch was this 1:35:51.720 --> 1:35:54.480 is a game for people who would never call themselves gamers, 1:35:54.840 --> 1:35:59.040 you know, parents, teachers, people who didn't have game console. 1:35:59.400 --> 1:36:01.439 It's really more of a puzzle. And if they think, oh, 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:03.280 I'm just playing this little box I bought at like 1:36:03.320 --> 1:36:05.280 you said, a KB twys or ninety bucks, but it's 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:08.840 a puzzle, almost like a crossword and not a video game, 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:10.880 well then I'm into it. And that's why so many 1:36:10.960 --> 1:36:14.360 people played Tetris. But you they would never call themselves gamers. 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:17.160 Interesting, I mean, because yeah, anyone can play it, anyone 1:36:17.200 --> 1:36:19.559 can pick it up. It's been made into so many 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:23.080 different variations. I mean I was playing, you know, a Tetris, 1:36:23.439 --> 1:36:25.760 I think I've played it on every single device I've 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:29.080 had since the Game Boy, whether it's a console box 1:36:29.240 --> 1:36:33.000 or whether it is a I'm just trying to think, 1:36:33.040 --> 1:36:35.040 like all the different ways I've played over the year, so, 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:37.840 you know, smartphones, cell phones, and it's all had different names. 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:41.679 Is the Tetris Company still around and are they still likened? 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:44.040 Like what's the deal with Tetris at this point in time? 1:36:45.240 --> 1:36:45.439 Yeah. 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:47.880 One of the nice things about the company and the 1:36:47.920 --> 1:36:50.639 game is that there's a Tetris company and it's run 1:36:50.640 --> 1:36:53.840 by Hank Rogers and his daughter, and the LECTIPOSIV was 1:36:53.840 --> 1:36:55.680 a partner in that, and these two guys who were 1:36:55.720 --> 1:36:59.280 the protagonist of that film and the protagonist of my book, 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:02.040 and I think the agonists in real life ended up 1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:04.760 owning the rights to the game and they've been administering 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:07.639 it ever since. So it's one of these great stories 1:37:07.680 --> 1:37:11.960 about you know, creative ip where the good guys actually win. 1:37:12.479 --> 1:37:14.559 And what is it about Tetris that I mean you 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:16.720 said that anyone can play it. I mean it's a 1:37:16.720 --> 1:37:21.200 puzzle and it's simple, but I still can't get enough, 1:37:21.320 --> 1:37:22.439 you know, thirty years. 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:27.479 Later, you know it's it's the geometic spatial you know, 1:37:28.040 --> 1:37:31.519 you know, recognition of the patterns. Scientists study how the 1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:34.400 game affects your brain, and they've shown that it can 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:38.879 help people prevent them from developing PTSD after traumatic incident 1:37:38.920 --> 1:37:42.160 because it rewires and rewrites some of the you know, 1:37:42.400 --> 1:37:46.080 memory pathways in the brain that are traumatic event would 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:48.760 would write to you know, long term, so you'd have flashbacks. 1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:50.920 And other scientists have studied how your brain is more 1:37:50.960 --> 1:37:53.639 efficient playing Tetris. It's not that you get better at 1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:56.000 the game, it's that your brain uses less power to 1:37:56.040 --> 1:37:58.040 do the same amount of mental work in the game. 1:37:58.320 --> 1:38:00.479 So there's something very unique about how it's a game 1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:03.519 but there's no story and there's no characters. It really 1:38:03.520 --> 1:38:06.320 requires a lot of unconscious thinking and that's something that 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:07.840 even a lot of twitch games don't have. 1:38:08.520 --> 1:38:09.680 So I was going to ask you, I'm gonna put 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:12.160 you on the spot. Is there a game similar to 1:38:12.280 --> 1:38:14.599 Tetris that you've seen in the past couple of years 1:38:14.600 --> 1:38:17.280 that you would recommend people play, Like if you love Tetris, 1:38:17.320 --> 1:38:19.800 like something that you've seen that would be just as fun. 1:38:21.120 --> 1:38:24.000 You know, I always loved Luminous, and I think candy 1:38:24.040 --> 1:38:26.439 Crush style games have a little bit of that, you know, 1:38:26.600 --> 1:38:30.559 in spatial pattern Recognition Rush. It's really tough to beep 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:33.320 the original, especially when there were still kind of interesting 1:38:33.360 --> 1:38:35.599 new versions coming out even all this time later. 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:36.599 There's a game. 1:38:36.479 --> 1:38:41.080 Called Tetris Effect that there's a really nice job of 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:43.640 updating and modernizing the game, and it actually works in 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:47.200 virtual reality, which is a whole another level. And I 1:38:47.200 --> 1:38:50.240 think it's just really fantastic in the VR three D space. 1:38:50.479 --> 1:38:53.040 And you can do that on you know, Oculus and 1:38:53.120 --> 1:38:55.520 on PlayStation VR and regular PCVR. 1:38:55.720 --> 1:38:57.639 Oh, I have to try that one, okay, Hevin, I said, 1:38:57.640 --> 1:38:59.400 I played on all the platforms. I have not tried 1:38:59.400 --> 1:39:01.400 it in VR. Yeah, I kind of do that. Well, okay, 1:39:01.400 --> 1:39:03.000 so you said Candy Crush and what was the other one? 1:39:03.080 --> 1:39:03.920 Luminous. 1:39:04.520 --> 1:39:06.840 Luminous is a great one, and that's actually one of 1:39:06.880 --> 1:39:09.280 the guys who designed that new texas of that game. 1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:11.280 Luminus was one of his earlier games. 1:39:11.600 --> 1:39:13.760 What surprised you when you're writing the book, anything that 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:15.600 you really were surprised at? 1:39:16.760 --> 1:39:18.759 You know, there are a couple of really surprising things 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:21.680 that did not make it into the movie version that 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:25.680 you saw. But Russia really wanted to get into the 1:39:25.720 --> 1:39:30.320 business and manufacturing Nintendo console, being in business with Nintendo 1:39:30.400 --> 1:39:32.840 in a big way. And they tried to convince Howard 1:39:32.840 --> 1:39:34.840 Lincoln and other people at Nintendo of this, and they 1:39:34.880 --> 1:39:37.760 took him, Howard Lincoln, who's in the film. They took 1:39:37.800 --> 1:39:40.920 him to one of the top secret cosmonaut training facilities 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:43.360 and gave him a big tour and so, you know, 1:39:43.360 --> 1:39:45.320 we can put the Nintendo logo on the side of 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.120 a rocket going up. You know, anything you want, we 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:49.080 can do it. Let's make a deal. And of course 1:39:49.080 --> 1:39:52.200 that didn't happen because you can imagine how you know, 1:39:52.439 --> 1:39:57.080 not great a Soviet Union manufactured Nintendo entertainment system would be. 1:39:57.200 --> 1:39:59.400 But the fact that they did all that and gave 1:39:59.439 --> 1:40:01.720 him this, like the behind the scenes secret Cosna tour, 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:03.920 I was always one of the wildest parts of the story. 1:40:04.080 --> 1:40:06.519 Oh my gosh, that is wild that we would have 1:40:06.520 --> 1:40:09.040 been forever change. We'd be talking about banning Nintendo at 1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:11.200 this point like we are with TikTok if that was 1:40:11.240 --> 1:40:15.960 the case. Okay, so do you recommend do you recommend 1:40:15.960 --> 1:40:18.160 that folks watched this movie on Apple TV bus I 1:40:18.200 --> 1:40:20.240 watched it on a plane, and so I have a 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:22.519 different place in my brain for movies that I watch 1:40:22.560 --> 1:40:24.800 on the plane, because it's like, Okay, you know, I 1:40:24.840 --> 1:40:27.360 wasn't my regular self when I was watching this, but 1:40:27.439 --> 1:40:29.360 I still enjoyed it, and I thought some of it 1:40:29.400 --> 1:40:32.400 was like, actually, the characters were so over the top 1:40:32.560 --> 1:40:34.120 that I thought at some point it was almost like 1:40:34.120 --> 1:40:37.200 a characature of a character. But that's what part of 1:40:36.960 --> 1:40:39.719 the love. Part of what I liked about this movie 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:42.160 was that, Yeah, what I. 1:40:42.080 --> 1:40:44.400 Liked about it was it really carries forward that Cold 1:40:44.479 --> 1:40:47.080 War spy thriller theme, which is the same way I 1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:49.240 wrote about the book, And I don't think anyone had 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:52.040 really covered the Order of Texas like that before. But 1:40:52.200 --> 1:40:54.880 it's pretty dark, true to life. Some of the outrageous 1:40:54.880 --> 1:40:57.920 stuff really happened. Sometimes the characters are a little different 1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:00.400 than they kind of invented, like that KTB bad guy 1:41:00.760 --> 1:41:03.040 who you know most of his stuff was actually done 1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:05.479 by one of the other characters in there. But until 1:41:05.520 --> 1:41:07.680 you get to the car chases and like the fistfights, 1:41:07.760 --> 1:41:10.679 it really wasn't all that exaggerated. Shockingly wow. 1:41:10.760 --> 1:41:13.320 All right, if you want to try Apple TV Plus 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:16.400 if you don't have a subscription, I just looked in 1:41:16.479 --> 1:41:19.559 the target app if you're a Target circle member, you 1:41:19.600 --> 1:41:21.960 can go into my Target on the app Apple tv 1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:24.599 Plus free for three months, so you can sign up 1:41:24.720 --> 1:41:27.640 watch this completely for free. So that's one way of 1:41:27.680 --> 1:41:29.599 doing it. I'm sure there's other ways of getting Apple 1:41:29.640 --> 1:41:33.519 tv Plus. Dan Ackerman is my guest from Cnet. Dan, 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:36.040 how are things going since I left Cnet? Probably what 1:41:36.120 --> 1:41:39.200 fifteen years ago? At this point, I. 1:41:39.320 --> 1:41:41.519 Can't I can't imagine that it's been that long. 1:41:41.640 --> 1:41:42.400 That is crazy. 1:41:42.439 --> 1:41:44.080 But of course I always look running into you at 1:41:44.120 --> 1:41:46.599 Apple events and other type events. It seems like there's 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:49.080 a huge network of NEET alumni out there and we 1:41:49.120 --> 1:41:50.760 all just keep you know, stay in touch and keep 1:41:50.800 --> 1:41:51.599 running into each other. 1:41:51.800 --> 1:41:55.960 And you're covering what over there at this point, you know, a. 1:41:55.880 --> 1:41:59.320 Lot of computer stuff and gaming, home entertainment, really a 1:41:59.360 --> 1:42:01.479 lot of that tra personal tech that you think of 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:02.719 the brand. 1:42:02.960 --> 1:42:07.800 All right, absolutely go follow Dan Ackerman on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 1:42:07.880 --> 1:42:11.080 all the different social media platforms that he's on. And Dan, 1:42:11.080 --> 1:42:13.000 thanks so much for joining me today. I can't wait 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:17.640 to play more Tetris now. 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:17.519 All right, take care? 1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:20.120 All right, coming up, we're going to have the feedback 1:42:20.200 --> 1:42:22.120 section of the show. The more I do, the show, 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:24.320 the more feedback we get. Plus, I'm going to tell 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:29.040 you how Google is now guaranteeing that if you your 1:42:29.120 --> 1:42:32.200 flight price goes down, they will pay you the difference. 1:42:32.280 --> 1:42:35.840 I'll explain that coming up right here on rich on Tech. 1:42:38.360 --> 1:42:41.519 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here closing 1:42:41.520 --> 1:42:46.000 out the show with you with the feedback segment. But first, 1:42:46.000 --> 1:42:47.479 before we get to that, I just want to tell 1:42:47.520 --> 1:42:51.360 you about the new feature on Google Flights, which, if 1:42:51.360 --> 1:42:54.280 you heard me talk about booking travel, I pretty much 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:57.600 only use Google Flights to look up my flights, and 1:42:57.640 --> 1:42:59.840 so this is flights or I should say shop for 1:42:59.840 --> 1:43:01.799 flights flights dot Google dot com. 1:43:01.880 --> 1:43:03.559 I'm on there multiple times on. 1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:06.120 A daily basis, so I love this website and they're 1:43:06.120 --> 1:43:10.759 adding this new feature that basically, if your price goes 1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:14.479 down on the flight, they will reimburse you. So if 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:18.000 you see a flight with this price guarantee badge, they 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:20.439 are confident that the price you see will not get 1:43:20.439 --> 1:43:23.439 any lower. So Google, of course has a ton of data. 1:43:23.960 --> 1:43:27.320 They know they've been tracking historic pricing data for flights, 1:43:27.320 --> 1:43:29.080 and they bought a company that helps them do that, 1:43:29.720 --> 1:43:32.760 so they know that they think the price isn't going 1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:36.200 to go down before you fly, and so if it does, 1:43:36.360 --> 1:43:39.240 they will send you back the difference via Google pay. 1:43:40.080 --> 1:43:42.519 That's kind of annoying, but I'd rather have PayPal, but 1:43:42.680 --> 1:43:45.960 I'll take Google pay whatever. But you have to see 1:43:45.960 --> 1:43:50.240 this badge. You have to see this flight price guarantee badge. 1:43:50.479 --> 1:43:52.320 And it does not show up on every flight. In fact, 1:43:52.360 --> 1:43:54.080 I searched a whole bunch of flights. I didn't get 1:43:54.080 --> 1:43:57.559 it to show up once. But in their example they 1:43:59.400 --> 1:44:01.840 they showed like like a what was it like an 1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:04.960 Alaska Airlines flight. So if you see that little badge, 1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:05.680 you can do that. 1:44:05.720 --> 1:44:05.840 Now. 1:44:05.880 --> 1:44:07.280 The other thing you can do on Google Flights is 1:44:07.360 --> 1:44:10.920 just track the price of your flight. But I've found 1:44:11.000 --> 1:44:13.000 a couple of times the price of the flight will 1:44:13.040 --> 1:44:14.960 go down when you track it. A lot of times 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:18.960 it just goes up. So my advice stays with all 1:44:19.520 --> 1:44:21.400 you know, it's still the same all these years later. 1:44:21.479 --> 1:44:23.880 When it comes to booking a plane flight, if the 1:44:23.920 --> 1:44:27.040 price seems good to you at the time, go ahead 1:44:27.040 --> 1:44:29.880 and book it. Because it may go up, it may 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:32.200 go down a little bit, But the reality is, if 1:44:32.200 --> 1:44:34.599 it feels like a fair price, go for it, because, 1:44:34.680 --> 1:44:36.960 believe me, I've tracked prices for a long long time, 1:44:37.800 --> 1:44:40.080 and sometimes they just never go down or they never change. 1:44:40.080 --> 1:44:41.920 Sometimes they just go up and up and up, and 1:44:41.960 --> 1:44:44.519 you just feel kind of like, why do I keep 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:45.599 watching this price go up? 1:44:45.600 --> 1:44:46.960 You just got a book when it feels right to 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:48.679 your Ruth. 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:52.000 Wrote in feedback section, Hey, Rich, I watch you on 1:44:52.160 --> 1:44:55.400 WGNTV in Chicago and listen to your podcast. In the 1:44:55.479 --> 1:44:58.240 last three weeks, my visa card has been hacked repeatedly, 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:01.160 which means issuing a new car every time. Chase has 1:45:01.200 --> 1:45:04.160 been good about sending fraud notices. Any suggestions. Also, I'm 1:45:04.200 --> 1:45:06.720 getting a second visa card so I'm not left with 1:45:06.760 --> 1:45:09.439 nothing while waiting for a new card. Thanks Ruth in 1:45:10.600 --> 1:45:16.200 Glenn Allen, Illinois. Ruth, my advice is to not use 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:19.040 your the same card online that you're using out and about, 1:45:19.160 --> 1:45:22.479 so I would think about getting a separate card just 1:45:22.520 --> 1:45:26.040 for online purchases. Or you can use a website that 1:45:26.080 --> 1:45:29.720 I use. It's called privacy dot com and you have 1:45:29.800 --> 1:45:32.080 to link it up to your debit card or your 1:45:32.280 --> 1:45:36.000 checking account or I think a savings account. But it 1:45:36.040 --> 1:45:39.080 gives you a one time use virtual card number, So 1:45:39.160 --> 1:45:41.080 that's a way to get around this, and I don't 1:45:41.080 --> 1:45:43.320 think Chase offers virtual card numbers, but some of the 1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:46.000 other credit card companies do. But I would look into 1:45:46.040 --> 1:45:49.200 using virtual card numbers, so when you're shopping online, you 1:45:49.240 --> 1:45:51.439 can use a one time card number that does not 1:45:51.520 --> 1:45:54.719 give away your actual credit card because for some reason, 1:45:54.760 --> 1:45:56.640 I don't know what it is these I don't know 1:45:56.720 --> 1:45:58.960 why how they get it. But sometimes you use your 1:45:58.960 --> 1:46:01.840 credit card online, next thing you know, it's hacked. And 1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:04.160 it doesn't happen just online. It could happen in store too, 1:46:04.280 --> 1:46:08.160 so it just really depends. But I would try to 1:46:08.560 --> 1:46:12.200 limit the exposure to your credit card number. My rule 1:46:12.200 --> 1:46:14.840 of thumb I try to use my debit card as 1:46:14.880 --> 1:46:18.679 much as possible, So anytime my card leaves my hand, 1:46:19.280 --> 1:46:21.519 I typically like to use a credit card just to 1:46:21.560 --> 1:46:25.799 give me that little buffer between myself and that number. 1:46:25.960 --> 1:46:28.880 So a credit card, if it gets hacked, a lot easier. 1:46:28.960 --> 1:46:30.439 You don't really have to worry about as much. You 1:46:30.479 --> 1:46:32.439 just call your company and say, hey, look this happened, 1:46:32.479 --> 1:46:35.760 and they're going to reverse the charges. But if your 1:46:35.800 --> 1:46:38.240 debit card, it's a little trickier because the money already 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:40.200 comes out of your account. So again my rule of 1:46:40.240 --> 1:46:42.479 thumb if the card leaves my hand, I usually like 1:46:42.560 --> 1:46:45.439 to use a credit card. The other way to do 1:46:45.520 --> 1:46:48.280 it is to use tap to pay, which protects both 1:46:48.280 --> 1:46:50.920 your debit card number and your credit card number equally well. 1:46:51.439 --> 1:46:55.639 And anytime you can online shop with something like Google 1:46:55.680 --> 1:47:00.160 Pay or Apple Pay, and a lot of times you 1:47:00.200 --> 1:47:02.040 have to shop from your phone to get that button 1:47:02.080 --> 1:47:03.960 to show up, but you can do that as well. 1:47:03.960 --> 1:47:05.600 Like on the Southwest app I was talking about it 1:47:05.640 --> 1:47:07.360 was booking a flight. It was very easy to book 1:47:07.400 --> 1:47:10.240 because I could just use Apple Pay right through my phone. 1:47:10.280 --> 1:47:13.519 So again, limit your exposure privacy dot com is also 1:47:13.520 --> 1:47:14.360 a good way to do that. 1:47:16.120 --> 1:47:17.960 Let's see here. I have so much feedback now from 1:47:18.000 --> 1:47:19.920 the show. John writes in. 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:24.040 John from Appleton, Wisconsin says, another very informative show. You 1:47:24.080 --> 1:47:26.960 had a nice discussion about free and Paige streaming services 1:47:26.960 --> 1:47:29.880 with commercials or ad free. Here's my question. When TV 1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:33.360 shows are sold for syndication, there's content removed to make 1:47:33.479 --> 1:47:36.839 room for more commercials. Not sure if that's the case. Okay, 1:47:37.360 --> 1:47:40.400 Today when we stream Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld x Files, are 1:47:40.439 --> 1:47:42.839 we seeing shows in their entirety as they first appeared 1:47:42.840 --> 1:47:46.000 on network TV? Or are we seeing the edited version. 1:47:46.920 --> 1:47:49.240 I think you're seeing the shows in their entirety because 1:47:49.280 --> 1:47:51.719 with streaming they can do whatever they want, so there's 1:47:51.720 --> 1:47:54.080 no need to cut anything. It doesn't need to fit 1:47:54.120 --> 1:47:56.760 into this. You know, typically it's twenty three minutes of 1:47:56.800 --> 1:48:00.200 show seven minutes of commercials per hour, so I don't 1:48:00.200 --> 1:48:04.040 think they need to cut anything when it's streaming. In fact, 1:48:04.120 --> 1:48:07.240 I was watching Friends and Seinfeld on streaming services and 1:48:07.280 --> 1:48:10.040 it seemed like it was the entire entire show. So 1:48:10.160 --> 1:48:13.920 I think that that's probably your best bet. And these shows, man, 1:48:13.920 --> 1:48:14.840 they keep having a life. 1:48:14.920 --> 1:48:15.400 Huh. 1:48:15.560 --> 1:48:17.759 Many years after I did a show, I did a movie. 1:48:18.640 --> 1:48:21.840 I did It's gonna Sound funny. I was on the 1:48:21.840 --> 1:48:25.320 cutting room floor of Zoolander two, Like they didn't even 1:48:25.400 --> 1:48:27.880 use my part, and I'm still getting residual checks when 1:48:27.920 --> 1:48:28.720 people watch that movie. 1:48:28.760 --> 1:48:29.240 I don't know how. 1:48:29.320 --> 1:48:30.960 I mean, I guess because they paid me to be 1:48:31.000 --> 1:48:33.760 in the movie. I somehow, even though I didn't end 1:48:33.880 --> 1:48:35.760 up in the movie. You know, when it comes to 1:48:35.760 --> 1:48:37.680 all this stuff, you still get your check. So I 1:48:37.720 --> 1:48:40.600 still just got to check. This weekend wasn't much, but 1:48:41.000 --> 1:48:42.800 still there. And it shows you all the places people 1:48:42.840 --> 1:48:46.599 watch it streaming is a big one. Mark says, I'm 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:50.280 a bit behind. Listening to episode number twelve. Two observations. 1:48:50.680 --> 1:48:52.679 One woman had a friend with an iPad was asking 1:48:52.760 --> 1:48:56.240 about a chromebook. One option is maybe getting a keyboard 1:48:56.280 --> 1:48:58.599 case for the iPad instead of a chromebook. It's cheaper 1:48:58.920 --> 1:49:01.400 and no need to learn a new device. Any bluetooth 1:49:01.439 --> 1:49:04.479 keyboard would work with an iPad. Yeah, an iPad is 1:49:05.120 --> 1:49:08.719 a good alternative. I think if you're just consuming content, 1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:10.839 an iPad is really good. But I think a chromebook 1:49:10.880 --> 1:49:12.439 is a little bit easier if you're trying to do 1:49:12.520 --> 1:49:16.719 more on there, and so I think that's I'll recommend 1:49:16.760 --> 1:49:18.800 an iPad when I think it's necessary. But I think 1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:21.720 in that case, I actually forgot it might have been 1:49:21.760 --> 1:49:25.560 a good option. I just forgot completely. Second item was 1:49:25.600 --> 1:49:29.080 about the woman with a Lisa computer. Those are selling 1:49:29.080 --> 1:49:31.040 for up to fifty thousand dollars on the market for 1:49:31.120 --> 1:49:32.599 vintage technology these days. 1:49:32.760 --> 1:49:33.160 Wow. 1:49:33.680 --> 1:49:35.400 I don't know if she mentioned she had a Lisa 1:49:35.520 --> 1:49:37.679 or she worked on Alisa back in the day. 1:49:38.200 --> 1:49:43.320 So that's oh gosh, this is a long one. 1:49:43.920 --> 1:49:47.800 Robert, retired web developer, says, regarding the woman who called 1:49:47.800 --> 1:49:49.720 into your show, who asked for advice and how to 1:49:49.720 --> 1:49:52.519 monetize her idea for an app. Instead of creating a video, 1:49:53.920 --> 1:49:56.280 I would have suggested a catchy name for your app, 1:49:56.400 --> 1:49:59.080 register that domain typically twenty bucks a year, host that 1:49:59.120 --> 1:50:03.080 domain six a month, six bucks a month. Well, and 1:50:03.120 --> 1:50:05.599 then use a website builder to create a website, kind 1:50:05.600 --> 1:50:08.840 of a live website with placeholders to show people how 1:50:08.880 --> 1:50:11.879 the app would function. And then as time becomes available, 1:50:11.920 --> 1:50:13.560 she can build out the website more and more and 1:50:13.640 --> 1:50:18.880 higher a web designer as necessary. Okay, that's interesting, but 1:50:19.040 --> 1:50:20.720 most people, he says, do not know how to find 1:50:20.760 --> 1:50:22.479 a VC. Even if they did, a VC would not 1:50:22.479 --> 1:50:26.800 want to talk to them. Yeah, that's interesting advice, I guess. 1:50:26.800 --> 1:50:28.720 I mean that's one way. And then a lot of 1:50:28.720 --> 1:50:31.760 people wrote in about this whole two point four gigahertz 1:50:31.840 --> 1:50:36.080 versus five gigahertz stuff and gets a little complicated. But 1:50:36.600 --> 1:50:41.080 one person said a Lynksys MR nine thousand router worked 1:50:41.120 --> 1:50:43.000 well and they were able to split the signal and 1:50:43.040 --> 1:50:45.600 give each a separate name, So if you want to 1:50:45.640 --> 1:50:49.760 do that. And finally, oh, Mario said rich, I just 1:50:49.800 --> 1:50:53.760 wanted you to suggest resist ever calling yourself dumb and 1:50:53.800 --> 1:50:57.719 don't refer yourself as dumb. I guess I called myself. 1:50:57.760 --> 1:51:00.679 I said I felt dumb. I don't what it was about, 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:01.760 but I did say I felt dumb. 1:51:01.760 --> 1:51:04.519 All right, that's gonna do it for this episode of 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:07.559 the show. You can find me on social media at 1:51:07.680 --> 1:51:10.080 rich on tech, my website richon tech dot tv. 1:51:10.560 --> 1:51:12.479 Go there to watch my TV segments. My name is 1:51:12.560 --> 1:51:14.439 rich Merrol. Thanks so much for listening. There are so 1:51:14.520 --> 1:51:16.799 many ways you can spend your time. I do appreciate 1:51:16.840 --> 1:51:19.080 you spending it right here with me. I will talk 1:51:19.120 --> 1:51:20.559 to you real soon.