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Speaker 1: tech dot TV. You're really taking advantage of that email

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Speaker 1: If you follow me on social media, you know that

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Speaker 1: I just go back from a family vacation to Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: We plan this thing so long ago. It was so

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Speaker 2: nice to go. But isn't it weird how when you're

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Speaker 1: I just looked at my show clock here and it

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Speaker 2: The area code for Hawaii. It was weird anyway. Isn't

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Speaker 2: it odd that how when you go on vacation you

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Speaker 1: Like when you're planning a vacation, you think you want

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me. I don't know, but I'm always like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: But it was great on this trip.

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Speaker 1: I challenged myself to disconnect, which is always a challenge

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Speaker 2: How did I do?

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Speaker 1: I think I did pretty well, I said I was

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Speaker 1: always testing something, so I wanted to see you know,

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Speaker 1: Samsung's got this new two hundred megapixel camera, so I

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Speaker 1: Also why I was able to disconnect, the signal was

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Speaker 1: see the highlights of my trip, I've got them on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram stories. I did all that stuff, tried to

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Speaker 1: And what was really cool is it would get you

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Speaker 1: Is that happening elsewhere in the US?

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Speaker 7: You know it is.

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Speaker 8: Urban areas, of course, are very attracted to it.

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Speaker 7: It's a good solution.

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Speaker 8: Ranges are getting longer and longer in terms of all

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Speaker 8: electric range of the vehicles, and we're having more amenities

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Speaker 8: available and people are seeing the reliable transportation that they

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Speaker 8: can count on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're here to talk about the Ionic six.

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Speaker 1: This is a car that you're putting up against the

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Speaker 1: Tesla Model three and the poll Star two, two really

449
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Speaker 1: nice cars.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about some of the key features on.

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Speaker 1: The Ionics six, and so some people might be confused.

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Speaker 1: They might think, well, wait, I heard of the Ionic five.

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Speaker 1: Is this the same car and upgrade to that car?

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Speaker 1: So it's totally different car than the five.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 8: It's a four door car. We call it a streamline concept.

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Speaker 8: It's an aerodynamic four door. It has a trunk, so

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Speaker 8: you know it'll anyone who's coming out of a Sonata

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Speaker 8: or something like that will recognize it.

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Speaker 1: It's got this unique design so it almost inside it's

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Speaker 1: very sizable.

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Speaker 2: Outside it looks.

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Speaker 1: Pretty compact and the back has almost like a sport

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Speaker 1: like design.

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Speaker 2: Was that intentional?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Everything comes from the aerodynamics, the efficiency of the vehicle.

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Speaker 8: You ask about the key aspects of the vehicle, the

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Speaker 8: selling points. I think the ultra fast charging. We have

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Speaker 8: eight hundred volt charging, ten to eighty percent charge in

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Speaker 8: eighteen minutes. We also have a four hundred volt charging,

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Speaker 8: which is kind of legacy fast charging, so that'll be

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Speaker 8: a huge benefit for customers.

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Speaker 1: Now, the eight hundred vault charging is that mostly for

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Speaker 1: home or we see those on the road as well.

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Speaker 8: Eight hundred volt is only available at charging stations that

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Speaker 8: offer it, so it's something that is the next stage

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Speaker 8: of ultrafast charging.

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Speaker 2: So the car is sort of ready for that absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: They talked up recycled materials in the car. I saw that.

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Speaker 2: Do you recall any of those in there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we, among other things, fishing nets, you know, which

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Speaker 8: probably get dropped in the ocean a lot. I'm not

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Speaker 8: sure the exact you know, composition chemically and nylon or something,

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Speaker 8: but we utilize those two make the carpets in the car.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely a trend I'm seeing with other automakers, and

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Speaker 1: not just auto but also tech gadgets in general, a

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Speaker 1: lot more recycled materials. Okay, I thought this was a

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Speaker 1: cool feature, the phone as a key. So this utilizes

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Speaker 1: Apple Wallet and also Samsung's pass where your phone literally

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Speaker 1: becomes a key and you can lend the key to

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Speaker 1: someone that way.

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Speaker 8: That's right, you can send your send your key to

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Speaker 8: someone with limited restrictions. If you want, you can rescind it,

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Speaker 8: you can take it back. It really makes you know

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Speaker 8: sharing your car or emergency situations, you can you can

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Speaker 8: with your phone, you can get in and drive your car.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of tech features, there is one thing that I

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Speaker 1: think is kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: I always love.

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Speaker 1: Hitting Easter eggs, and there is one with this car.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of lighting and you call it something unique.

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Speaker 1: Explain the lighting and also the Easter egg that people

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Speaker 1: can look for sure.

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Speaker 8: The vehicle has a theme of we call parametric pixels.

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Speaker 8: You'll see these little dots of light all around the

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Speaker 8: car at really over seven hundred of them, and it's

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Speaker 8: pretty impressive and they're a design element. There's also a

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Speaker 8: statement that this is an advanced, something different you haven't

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Speaker 8: seen before. But on the steering where we didn't want

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Speaker 8: to go with a conventional brand logo on the steering wheel,

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Speaker 8: so we decided to put some dots to show some lighting,

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Speaker 8: dots to show some interactivity with the car in terms

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Speaker 8: of when you're when you're talking to the car to

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Speaker 8: ask it to do something, it can recognize that. But

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Speaker 8: we put four dots there and then we recognize that

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Speaker 8: four dots is actually is actually h and Morris code.

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Speaker 7: So it's a little easter egg for you.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. And I was playing with some of the lighting

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 1: The ambient lighting people love, you know, switching the way

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Speaker 1: the lighting looks inside the car. And the best way

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Speaker 1: I can describe the parametric pixels is it's almost like

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Speaker 1: an eight bit video game.

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Speaker 2: It looks really cool and retro but also modern.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely. I think that's the point. And to your point,

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Speaker 8: the ambient lighting is really cool. You know, you've got

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Speaker 8: sixty four colors times to over four thousand combinations. You've

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Speaker 8: got some combinations that some designers have worked up for

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Speaker 8: you to calm you or to energize you. So really

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Speaker 8: cool features and lets you personalize the interior of the car.

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Speaker 2: Okay, over the air updates.

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Speaker 1: Is this something that Hyundai has done in the past,

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Speaker 1: because I know you're promoting this as a big new

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Speaker 1: feature for this car.

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Speaker 8: Well, we've done it with navigation maps. We've had that

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Speaker 8: for a few years, and now we're rolling it out

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Speaker 8: to actually the car systems can be updated over the air.

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Speaker 8: So that's a huge benefit. We think of it as

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Speaker 8: the car being able to get better over time.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of like the smartphone.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to go into the store

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Speaker 1: to update your phone.

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Speaker 2: I mean it used to be to update I remember,

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Speaker 2: you know, if.

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Speaker 1: You had a navigation system, you'd have to go to

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Speaker 1: the dealership and pay a fee to get that updated.

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Speaker 1: And now, of course we just all get our phones

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Speaker 1: updated overnight.

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Speaker 8: Right in terms of navigation systems maps, that's you know,

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Speaker 8: still happening. So it's really a recent development. So this

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Speaker 8: is great. As the car is electrified, we become more

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Speaker 8: like those gadgets that we have in our pockets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love this feature.

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Speaker 1: You actually showed it off yesterday in a demo where

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Speaker 1: the car can become a giant power outlet. So one

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Speaker 1: of the chargers you plug it into the side of

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Speaker 1: the car and you can basically plug something into it

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Speaker 1: to power it.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 8: Our model has a seventy seven point four kilowatt hour battery,

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Speaker 8: which is pretty big. We'll power the car for three

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Speaker 8: hundred and sixty one miles, which is for its class,

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Speaker 8: leading for all electric range, and it eliminates range anxiety.

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Speaker 8: But the what we call V to L, which is

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Speaker 8: there's an accessory plug that you can take the charging

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Speaker 8: port and you can plug it into your refrigerator in

570
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Speaker 8: case of outages. You can take it on a can

571
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Speaker 8: camping trip, all sorts of use cases, and you can

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Speaker 8: set it so it won't run out your battery.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, so you can say, like leave twenty percent

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Speaker 1: on my battery so that you know I can get

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Speaker 1: back home.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, you don't want to.

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Speaker 8: You know, no one wants to run out their battery

578
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Speaker 8: all the way and be stuck somewhere.

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Speaker 1: So blue Link is sort of your connected subscription service

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Speaker 1: that you've had.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of the connectivity of the car.

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Speaker 1: And there's some pretty major changes to that subscription where

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Speaker 1: it's going to be included for the lifetime of the owner.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty sizable shift.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we've made a big investment in blue Link, you know,

586
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Speaker 8: a decade ago, and we've gotten more and more subscribers.

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Speaker 8: You know, allows you to turn on your car, remotely

588
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Speaker 8: locate your car, turn on your air conditioning for certain models.

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Speaker 8: It's really a great tells you when to service the car.

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Speaker 8: And now what we've done is we've made it a

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Speaker 8: part of the car. We've made it standard. No subscription

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Speaker 8: fees after the initial trial period whether you know, we

593
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Speaker 8: have a long trial period anyways, but you know this

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Speaker 8: we go out to ten years now.

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Speaker 1: So so the Ionic five was a top ten best

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Speaker 1: selling EV in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that will happen with the six?

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Speaker 8: You know, we're not focused on volume. We're focused on satisfying,

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Speaker 8: you know, what customers want. And this is an alternative

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Speaker 8: Theonic five. It has a lot of the same characteristics.

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Speaker 8: It has a little bit more range if you want that,

602
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Speaker 8: and the interior has some pretty neat features to personalize it.

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Speaker 1: And for folks wondering about Hyundai in general, what do

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Speaker 1: you say to them, You've worked for different car companies,

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Speaker 1: what do you say about the Hondai brand.

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Speaker 8: Hundai moves fast and they provide quality products. It's it's

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Speaker 8: really impressive. You know, they never stand still, they never

608
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Speaker 8: take second best.

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Speaker 2: All right, John Simmons of Hyundai, thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: chatting with me today. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'll have more rich on Tech right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight one O one.

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Speaker 1: can also go to the website rich on tech dot

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Speaker 1: tv the numbers right at the top. And yes, i

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Speaker 1: will tell my story about saving a life, but I've

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Speaker 1: got so many calls to go to here, so let's

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Speaker 1: go to my leen first in Fontana, and I promise

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Speaker 1: I'll do it at the end of this before the break, Eileen,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Hi, I'm waiting for your story. I did a Heimnik

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Speaker 10: one time and felt like a hero too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't feel like. I mean, my kids thought

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Speaker 1: I was a hero, but I was just doing the

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Speaker 1: right thing, so.

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Speaker 10: Right, Okay, anyway, first thing, I think it was last

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Speaker 10: week that you mentioned the flighty dot com website and

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Speaker 10: it sounded really interesting. And when I go to that website,

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Speaker 10: all I get is a h offer to buy the dolmazing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the app, it's called flight app dot com f

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Speaker 1: L I g h T y app dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's yep, that's the part.

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Speaker 1: And I used it over the weekend too for the

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Speaker 1: for the Hawaii trip and it was fantastic. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it was only off by five minutes when we landed,

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Speaker 1: which was amazing.

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Speaker 11: Wow.

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Speaker 10: So anyway, Oh that sounds so wonderful. Yeah, anyway, the

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Speaker 10: other thing I have, I started a business about thirty

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Speaker 10: five years ago and out of my home and would

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Speaker 10: use that number, and at that time I don't. And

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Speaker 10: then finally I got an eight hundred number also, but

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Speaker 10: we're going to be moving about forty miles away, and

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Speaker 10: I think that maybe a different telephone company. And I

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Speaker 10: didn't know if landline numbers are portable at all, what

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Speaker 10: to do to make it portable.

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Speaker 1: I believe landline numbers are portable just like a cell

651
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Speaker 1: phone number. So if you have a landline, I would

652
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Speaker 1: contact a company that does it. And yeah, I believe

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Speaker 1: you can just do it just the same way you

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Speaker 1: would a cell phone number.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I hadn't tried, so I hate to hate. I'm

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Speaker 10: sorry to wasted your time.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, it's a good it's a good

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Speaker 1: question because I think that people, probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: people probably keep these numbers because they're wondering if you can,

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Speaker 1: and they're worried you can't.

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Speaker 2: So if you know you can, it's a good you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a good thing. If you want to switch it

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Speaker 2: to a cell phone line, you can do that. The

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Speaker 2: only thing to know about that is you probably have

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Speaker 2: to call your provider and get some sort of pin

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Speaker 2: number or account number. Just have everything that.

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Speaker 1: Just call your provider and ask all the information that

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Speaker 1: you need to support the number, because there are if

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Speaker 1: you do it wrong, it could get hung up and

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Speaker 1: like never never land. So just really know that information

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Speaker 1: before you go into it.

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Speaker 10: And here's something the thing that just happened recently and

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Speaker 10: it's kind of frightened me. A friend of mine called

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Speaker 10: me and was wanted to know about the money deal

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Speaker 10: that I had offered, you know, told him about emailing

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Speaker 10: him about and I hadn't done that. And anyway, he

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Speaker 10: said that what I supposedly said him was here I

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Speaker 10: got fifty thousand dollars out of this program. And then

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Speaker 10: when he followed that, and then they were asking for

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Speaker 10: fifteen thousand dollars deposit. And I don't know how that happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what happened.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like your email got hacked, and so your

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Speaker 1: email address got hacked, maybe an old one that you used,

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Speaker 1: and what they did was once they hacked that email address,

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Speaker 1: they used your account to send out emails to everyone

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Speaker 1: in your contact book, and so to keep that from happening,

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Speaker 1: you really need to Number one, get rid of old

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Speaker 1: email accounts if you're not using them, or at least

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Speaker 1: you know you can delete the account or at least

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Speaker 1: lock them down as much as you can. So typical

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Speaker 1: hacks at this point are a lot of social engineering attacks,

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Speaker 1: which means that people get they get access to your Facebook,

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Speaker 1: they get access to your Instagram, they get access to

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Speaker 1: your email, and they use your good name to send

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Speaker 1: out information to your friends and try to scam them

696
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Speaker 1: because people will take a second look because it's coming

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Speaker 1: from you. And so you want to be sure that

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Speaker 1: you lock down your accounts both with a strong password

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Speaker 1: and also to factor authentication on every and all accounts

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Speaker 1: that are available, because that's really the best way to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself. So that's what i'd recommend. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: do it, Eileen, and find the flighty app and get

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Speaker 1: that landline transferred. You can do it all right, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the call, appreciate it. Phone lines are open at

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned that Google is dropping support for yet another product,

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Speaker 1: and I've talked about this on the show. This is

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Speaker 1: my problem with Google. I love Google, but they have

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Speaker 1: such a short attention span when it comes to things.

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Speaker 1: Now you can argue that these things have been out

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Speaker 1: since twenty twelve, and okay, fine, it's been a good

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Speaker 1: ten years since people had these these things in their home.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is yet another Google product is getting sunset,

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Speaker 1: and this time it is Dropcam and Nest Secure. So

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Speaker 1: in one year, on April eighth, twenty twenty four, you

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Speaker 1: will not be able to use your Dropcam anymore or

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Speaker 1: the Nest Secure home security system. Now, existing dropcam users,

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Speaker 1: according to The Verge, will be able to keep using

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Speaker 1: them until April eighth, twenty twenty four, after which you

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Speaker 1: will not be able to access them with the next app.

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Speaker 1: So Google, in the meantime is offering a free indoor

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Speaker 1: wired Nestcam to Dropcam owners who subscribe to Nest Aware.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not a subscriber, they'll give you a

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Speaker 1: fifty percent off coupon. But if you're a subscriber like

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Speaker 1: myself and I have a Nestcam, I can go on

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Speaker 1: their website and I can get a free Oh sorry,

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Speaker 1: I have a Dropcam. I can get a free wired Nestcam,

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Speaker 1: so I will definitely be doing that. The promotion runs

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Speaker 1: through May seventh, twenty twenty four, so you have a

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Speaker 1: bunch of time. In fact, you have time even past

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Speaker 1: when the dropcam will stop working. Now, the Dropcam, to

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Speaker 1: its credit, did come out in twenty twelve. The pro

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Speaker 1: version came out in twenty thirteen, and then of course

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Speaker 1: Google bought this company. Everyone wondered what would happen to Dropcam.

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Speaker 1: It sort of became Nest. Nest made their own cameras,

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Speaker 1: they were more expensive, they had more features, more AI,

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Speaker 1: and now Nest Cam is pretty much their brand. And

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Speaker 1: then the next Secure. That's another story because I believe

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Speaker 1: when Nest Secure came out and people were asking me

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Speaker 1: should I subscribe to this?

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Speaker 2: I said no.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I'm not sure I

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Speaker 1: trust Google with something that you don't really want to

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Speaker 1: buy a security system very often, and I've purchased two

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, and it's something that you don't really

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Speaker 1: want to sit and replace and change.

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Speaker 2: So here's a deal.

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Speaker 1: Google recently signed a deal with ADT to offer this,

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Speaker 1: you know, their own kind of security system. And let's see,

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Speaker 1: do I have the name of that security system.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I have it, but it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like a self installed security system, kind of like

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Speaker 1: what simply Safe offers, kind of like what Ring offers.

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Speaker 1: But to be perfectly honest, if you're buying a self

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Speaker 1: install security system, do you really want ADT? I mean,

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Speaker 1: ADT is the company that people know that you have

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Speaker 1: someone come to your house, they install the security system.

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Speaker 2: It's a three year deal.

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Speaker 1: You're not really paying for the system, but then you're

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Speaker 1: paying the fifty five to seventy dollars or whatever it

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Speaker 1: is a month for your security monitoring. And so people

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Speaker 1: that wanted the alternative, they went to a company like

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Speaker 1: Simply Safe, they went to a company like Ring, and

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Speaker 1: now they're giving Nest Secure customers a free next generation

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Speaker 1: security system from ad T or a two hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: credit to use on the Google Store. I'd use the

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Speaker 1: two hundred dollars credit on the Google Store, and personally,

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Speaker 1: I would not go with the Nest Secure or whatever

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Speaker 1: their new system is, and I would just go with

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Speaker 1: something like Simply Safe, or I would go with Ring,

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Speaker 1: because I think those companies are a little bit more

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Speaker 1: dedicated when it comes to I mean, I think ADT

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Speaker 1: is fine, but I just I don't. To me, I

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Speaker 1: want something that's a little bit more forward thinking, something

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Speaker 1: like a simply safe that was created as an alternative,

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Speaker 1: or something like the ring system that I think is

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Speaker 1: very good and it's an alternative. And again, you have

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Speaker 1: to subscribe or you you know, there's options for it,

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Speaker 1: but it's just easier. And Google says, yes, you can

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Speaker 1: cancel the ADT subscription at any time. But the reality is,

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Speaker 1: I would say, go out to work. All right, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you the story about the life. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: I'm on the beach in Hawaii, sipping on my tie

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Speaker 1: and no joke, you know, I'm reading my book Sun

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Speaker 1: is Shining, beautiful beach, and I hear like offen the

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Speaker 1: you know, to the right, like help, and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a joke. Like who who says help on

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Speaker 2: the beach?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like unless it's a joke. And all then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden we hear help, my dad needs help, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can't sit here, and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: around and people are just standing there like not doing anything.

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Speaker 1: And so I must have been a thousand feet from

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Speaker 1: where this person is, and so they're out in the sea,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I look and I'm like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: like what just happened to this guy?

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Speaker 2: Like a shark?

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Speaker 1: Like what is going on? Like I don't know for

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Speaker 1: this kid to scream? Right, So I just jump up,

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Speaker 1: drop everything, and I run over to I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what this probably this person probably needs like

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Speaker 1: one of those things, like those like life raft things.

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Speaker 1: And I saw it on the beach when I was

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Speaker 1: walking in, so I ran, I grabbed it.

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Speaker 2: I swam out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not like a very physical guy, like I'm

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Speaker 1: not like mister athletic, but I can run really fast,

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Speaker 1: and so I ran and I can swim fast, and

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Speaker 1: I swam to this guy and it was me and

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Speaker 1: another person, and he kind of just swam out.

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Speaker 2: But I had this little thing.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up. It's called a rescue tube. And

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Speaker 1: the person we were able to get on the tube

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Speaker 1: and drag him back in to shore. And I guess

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Speaker 1: this guy he was wearing a life jacket, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he couldn't swim or what, but he

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Speaker 1: was very thankful that we got him in. He was

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Speaker 1: not bitten by a shark. He just I guess lost

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Speaker 1: his footing he lost I don't know what he just lost.

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Speaker 1: He just couldn't swim back to shore. And so we

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Speaker 1: did kind of save his life. I guess in a way.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened if we didn't.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, I looked up on my Apple Watch

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Speaker 1: after this whole situation to see kind of like where

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Speaker 1: my heart rate was at that minute, and believe me,

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Speaker 1: it was up. So that's my story from Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Don't be the bystander effect when you see something happening,

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Speaker 1: spring into help.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people went and dialed nine one one.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, but you do need some people that actually

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Speaker 2: go and physically helped the person. I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: I was running into, but I did it, and uh

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 1: All fine anyway, Thanks for listening. All right, rich On

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Speaker 1: Tech phone number, Triple A rich.

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Speaker 2: One O one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here chatting

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Speaker 1: technology with you at Triple A rich one O one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four to one

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Speaker 1: zero one is the phone number email address Hello at

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Speaker 1: Richon Tech dot TV. All right, so let's just go

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Speaker 1: to Kevin in Walnut, California, to start off this hour.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 5: Thank you Rich, and welcome belated welcome to KFI. So

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Speaker 5: glad you were the replacement for Leo.

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Speaker 6: And Happy Easter.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Christian.

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Speaker 9: Is.

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Speaker 5: I have a whole bunch of old cell phones, sensoring

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Speaker 5: and other brands. I want to donate them or destroy

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Speaker 5: them because I don't want any of the data context

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Speaker 5: information going to somebody else.

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Speaker 6: How should I do that?

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Speaker 2: So the first question is can you turn these phones on?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I can, Okay, So if you can turn them.

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Speaker 1: On, then I would go through the settings on the

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Speaker 1: Android and are they all Android?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: I would go through the settings and I would format

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Speaker 1: them so you can go into settings and then it's basically,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's different variations depending on the Android model,

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Speaker 1: but usually you can go into Advanced.

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Speaker 2: And then systems. Let's say I I have a Samsung

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Speaker 2: right here.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if we go into settings and then we

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Speaker 1: go into let's see about phone and then reset and

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Speaker 1: then it says reset all settings, reset, network settings, reset,

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Speaker 1: accessibility settings, or factory data reset. Factory data reset is

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Speaker 1: the one that you want and that will erase all

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Speaker 1: of your data, including files and downloaded apps. And you

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Speaker 1: can also do the same thing on the iPhone if

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Speaker 1: you go into Settings General and then reset and then

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Speaker 1: basically you're looking for the factory data reset make sure

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Speaker 1: that all the important stuff you need is backed up.

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: That's the way that you can, you know, get that

882
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: stuff on a different phone. But if you really want

883
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: to be secure, you know, you might want to do

884
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: this process twice. But I think that once should probably

885
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: be sufficient for most people. If especially if you're donating them.

886
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: The second you donate these phones to a reputable organization,

887
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: they're going to do the same thing.

888
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: They're going to wipe them as well.

889
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: So does that help, Yeah, definitely. And I have one

890
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: more question, rich Sure, I got a IPTV service from

891
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: a Canadian firm to watch mostly Asians programs like from

892
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: India and also cricket. Is that illegal in US to

893
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: do or is it legal?

894
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's tough to know based on how this box

895
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: is working. But I call these black boxes IPTV, so

896
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily illegal. I mean that's a term that

897
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, it depends how they're taking this programming. So

898
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: some of these boxes, you know, they offer a lot

899
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: of programming based on streams, and they just put that

900
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: stream in an easy way, or maybe they present it

901
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: in a way that is not the way that the

902
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: provider wants, Like maybe they take the stream outside of

903
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the app that the provider typically offers it through and

904
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: they just make it easier to find, or they make

905
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: it easier to watch.

906
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: So it really depends.

907
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: But typically I don't recommend those boxes because they do

908
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: operate in a gray area and so you don't really

909
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: know what you're getting, and well, I don't think someone's

910
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: going to come to your front door and arrest you

911
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: for it. I don't feel good using something like that

912
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: just because it's not the way it's intended. Like if

913
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: you're getting a service for free that you should be

914
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: paying for, then yeah, there's probably a problem there, like

915
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: it's something that you probably shouldn't be doing. But if

916
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: it's just being presented in a different way, like if

917
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: they're just putting YouTube streams on there or channels in

918
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: a different way that they are and then they're typically presented,

919
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: then you know, again it's a gray area. So the

920
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: main thing about those boxes is that sometimes the software

921
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: is not up to date, they're the service or the

922
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: support can can be all over the place. I just

923
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: personally don't recommend them because of that reason. So it

924
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: sort of comes down to a personal Uh, you know

925
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: what you're comfortable doing. But I, you know, I work

926
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: in the content creation world, and so personally, I like

927
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: to pay for the stuff that I'm streaming. And it

928
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: sounds like Kevin, because you're you're wondering about this, you

929
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: probably already know the answer. So I hope that helps,

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Speaker 1: and I do appreciate calling and thanks for the kind words.

931
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Speaker 1: All right, if you want to call in Triple eight

932
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Rich one oh one is the phone number. That's eight

933
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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

934
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Speaker 1: This is something that's affecting a lot of folks right now.

935
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Speaker 1: If you have a Western Digital hard drive, they're my

936
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: cloud service has been down for a while. It's been

937
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: down for apparently more than twenty four I know that

938
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: I've been getting emails about this for about a week,

939
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Speaker 1: so I think it's been closer to a week now.

940
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: And I just got an email yesterday from Western Digital

941
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: because I had one of their drives in the past

942
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: that I was testing. It was called the eb which

943
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: I really liked and I didn't even know they were

944
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: still supporting it, but they sent an email about this

945
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: whole situation. But according to Ours Technica, folks are locked

946
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: out of their local drives many times because of this

947
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: my Cloud system. So Western Digital issued a release saying

948
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: that the company learned there's been an unauthorized third party

949
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: that gained access to a number of the company's systems

950
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: AKA they were hacked, and the company believes that the

951
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: unauthorized party obtained certain data from its systems and they're

952
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: working to understand the nature and scope of that data

953
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: AKA they're trying to figure out how many passwords and

954
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: usernames were taken and if folks, if these hackers were

955
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: able to access the data on people's drives or that

956
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: was stored in the cloud. So, as you can see,

957
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: this could be a major problem. This is affecting the

958
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: my Cloud, the my Cloud Home, the MyCloud Home duo,

959
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: the sand Disk eb and the sand Disk I expand

960
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: wireless charger. And I'm a big fan of these sand

961
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: disk products. The eb I was a huge fan of

962
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: when it came out. When it SYNCD with Google Photos,

963
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: that functionality went away, so I didn't really recommend it anymore,

964
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: but I still recommend the sand disc I expand not

965
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: necessarily the wireless charger, but I do like their little

966
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: drive that they have. So the outage means that users

967
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: cannot access data stored in my cloud, and it also

968
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: extends to some of these things that you need around

969
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: my cloud. And so the log in service is just

970
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: not available, and so people are saying, hey, wait, I

971
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: can't access my hard drive that's sitting in my living room,

972
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: but it's not letting me access it because I need

973
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Speaker 1: to log in through the my Drive service or the

974
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: MyCloud service. So what I got from Western Digital and

975
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure this effects or this will extend to everything,

976
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: but there is a feature that allows you to access

977
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: your stored files locally using a feature called local access.

978
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: And this feature allows you to directly access your personal

979
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: files from a Windows or Mac computer that's connected to

980
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: the same network as your device. But you have to

981
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: enable it. So you go to your browser and you

982
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: connect to your device's dashboard.

983
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: And remember we were talking about this earlier.

984
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: It's usually a number of IP address that's printed on

985
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: the bottom of the device, so you navigate there and

986
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: look for the local access feature. You enable that feature

987
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: and you can create a new local access account and

988
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: then using that account, you can go through and access

989
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: the files on your drive. But this is again not

990
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: very good. We're seeing this more and more and I

991
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: just can't believe how many times I'm seeing these companies

992
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: that are getting hacked. And it's a problem because these

993
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: online services that we rely on are not usable during

994
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: that time, could be a week, could be a couple

995
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: of days. But also your information is then put at risk.

996
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: So if you're using the same login information for this

997
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: MyCloud service as you use for other services, if they

998
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: were able to get this information from Western Digital, now

999
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: they've got your log in for another service that you

1000
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: use the same log in and password for. So the

1001
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: big thing to know here is that you always want

1002
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: to use unique log in, unique password for everything that

1003
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: you're logging into because that way, if one of these

1004
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: services gets hacked, they can't use it on a different service.

1005
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: And Disney Plus moving on now is launching with ads

1006
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: on Roku. So if you are waiting for Disney Plus

1007
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: and that AD supported plan, which is a little bit

1008
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: cheaper than the AD free plan, actually it's not, it's

1009
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: the same price. They just made it ad supported, but

1010
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: it is available on Roku, and so Roku users can

1011
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: now use Disney Plus with or without ads. It took

1012
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: them about four months to get this going. The reason

1013
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: probably because Roku likes to get a cut of ad revenue.

1014
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: So the way Roku works is that all the ads

1015
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: that are shown on there, some of them make money

1016
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: for Roku. So let's say you're Disney Plus and you

1017
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: stream a show and it has, you know, six minutes

1018
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: of commercials. Roku gets a small cut of the commercials

1019
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: and that ad time on that service, even though it's

1020
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Disney Plus. It's a unique way that they kind of

1021
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: came up with stuff. So Roku is really an advertising platform.

1022
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: And that's why those Roku boxes are so cheap, because

1023
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Roku sells you those at an inexpensive cost, and then

1024
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: they make it up on the services that you subscribe to.

1025
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: In fact, they may even get a cut of the

1026
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: price you pay to Disney Plus for this plan. And

1027
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: so that's probably why it took so long, because Disney

1028
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Plus is probably like, ah, we're big, we don't need

1029
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: to pay you anything, and Roku is like, now, we're

1030
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: not gonna put you on our platform unless you pay US,

1031
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: and Disney Plus said, Okayku, you're pretty big, so we'll

1032
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: give you a little cut of that money. It's all

1033
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: about recurring revenue streams at this point, because it started

1034
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: out where the services would just put the apps on

1035
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: there and they didn't really care because it was good

1036
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: for everyone. They would sell the hardware, they'd sell other

1037
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: movies and things on the side. But now someone like

1038
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Roku is saying, yeah, we're pretty big out there, We're

1039
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: like one of the top streaming platforms. We're going to

1040
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: take a cut of some of this money that people

1041
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: are spending on these things. So that's what's happening there.

1042
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: But if you have Roku, you can now use Disney

1043
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: Plus with ads.

1044
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: I believe is it six.

1045
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Ninety nine still when it came out, it was six

1046
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: ninety nine, so I'm not sure how much it is

1047
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: at this point. I pay for like the Disney Bundle.

1048
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: According to GameSpot back on December eighth, it was eight

1049
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: dollars a month.

1050
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, I got to look that up.

1051
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it's it's one of these things

1052
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: where Disney Plus added the ads supported plan, but it

1053
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: was the same price as pep or paying before they

1054
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: had ads, so it was like ad free. So anyway, Yeah,

1055
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: it's confusing. All I know is every month you get

1056
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: these these bills and you're like, did I watch Disney

1057
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: Plus this month?

1058
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: Did I?

1059
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: All?

1060
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 9: Right?

1061
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we still get a lot

1062
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: more to talk about. We're going to talk to the

1063
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: CEO of a company that is attempting to bring I

1064
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: message to Android users.

1065
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: And then later in the.

1066
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Show, we're going to talk about the movie that I

1067
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: watched on the plane, Tetris on Apple TV. Plus my

1068
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: friend Dan Ackerman from CNAT we'll talk He wrote a

1069
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: book on Tetris, so we'll talk all about that, plus

1070
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: your calls at Triple eight rich one on one eight

1071
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: eight eight seven four two.

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Speaker 2: Four one zero one. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here chatting about technology with you at Triple

1074
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one. Max is in Newport Beach, California. Max,

1075
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: Welcome to rich on Tech.

1076
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: Thank you for taking my call.

1077
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 9: Rich.

1078
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 6: I'm a little older guy. If I know what button

1079
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 6: used to push, I'm good. Otherwise I'm not ethnically savvy.

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00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 7: Read more.

1081
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 6: My homes seven years ago got new TVs and new

1082
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 6: stereo stuff and everything I want to cut the cord.

1083
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 6: I'm apprehensive because I don't know I need help. I

1084
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 6: don't know who to call. I know what I want

1085
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 6: to do, but I have no clue what to do

1086
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 6: or how to do it. Okay, how do I find

1087
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 6: somebody that can come to my house and help me?

1088
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: Okay? You want someone?

1089
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: Well, I mean most of the time people di why this,

1090
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: Because that's what's so great about it is that you

1091
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: don't really need someone.

1092
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: So how many TVs are we talking here?

1093
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 9: Four?

1094
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so you got four TVs and you want to

1095
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: have the same programming across all of them?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I have I have Sono system in the house.

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Speaker 1: Also, Oh wow, you've got sons one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was just playing with mine this morning.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I need somebody to come out and really show

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Speaker 6: me how to work stuff, okay, because I'm confused.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean, look, there's a lot of there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of local people that can do that. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of national services that can do that. If

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Speaker 1: you want someone that's you know, local, I would just

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Speaker 1: go to yelp and find someone that maybe that mounts

1107
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Speaker 1: TVs that runs a service like that that can do

1108
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, they do more than mount TV's, they run cable.

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00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: They really know their stuff. So if you want someone

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Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, a little bit more handholding

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00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: to get through this, that's who i'd recommend someone.

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Speaker 7: What do I look under on Yelp?

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Speaker 1: I would search let's see here, let me let me

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00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: actually search here. It's probably someone that like cable installation,

1115
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: let's see, or video camera installation, because those people are

1116
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: usually you know, the people that know what they're doing

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00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: with all this stuff. They don't do just that, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the people that I had come mount my TV,

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00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: they would do all kinds of stuff, they would run

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Speaker 1: video cameras IP. So I would search something like that.

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00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: You can also, let's see if you search tech support,

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00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: like tech support in home tech support. You can do that,

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00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: and there's people like that'll bring up a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of stuff. Network. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: computer I T services. I mean there's a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of people that will do that. Your computer guy, I

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00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot. So I would search something like that,

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Speaker 1: But realistically, I think it's easier than that. I think

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: what you need to do do you watch cable? Do

1130
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: you need cable TV or like certain channels?

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00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 6: I want sports, I want to I want to get

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00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 6: you know, I want to get some of the local channels, okay,

1133
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 6: you know, like HGTV and the golf channel and some

1134
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 6: of the sports.

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00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 5: But we only used to.

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Speaker 6: Be to streaming services Netflix and Prime for some reason.

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Speaker 6: My Prime thing it's very slow and uh everything. But

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Speaker 6: but I want to be able to get some of

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00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 6: the local channels and to get my streaming. But I

1140
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Speaker 6: want to cut the cable.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well you mean the cable like the s Yeah,

1142
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the cable is yeah, yeah, exactly. Now here's the thing

1143
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: with cutting the cable is that when you cut the cable,

1144
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: typically the internet price goes up, and so that could

1145
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: be a little bit of an issue. So right now

1146
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: you're probably on some sort of bundle deal that they

1147
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: give you the cable and the internet all in one.

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00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: When you call them up and say, okay, I'm cutting

1149
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: the cable part, they say, okay, well your internet's.

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00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: Going to go up to this price.

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00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: So you know what you need to do is really

1152
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: have the cable ready to go. You live in Newport Beach,

1153
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: you may be able to get the Verizon five G

1154
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: like the wireless box we were talking about, or the

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00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: T Mobile Home Internet, So that could be a way

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00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: to save on some of your cable costs. But I

1157
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: think that at the end of the day, you need

1158
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: to pick a streaming device, which I'd recommend either a

1159
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: Roku or an Apple TV would kind of get expensive,

1160
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: but you told me you have so nos so that

1161
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: tells me that you've got, you know, a decent setup

1162
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: there and you're not afraid to spend money, so that's good.

1163
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: Maybe an Apple TV that's kind of simple, and then

1164
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: a Fire TV that's also really easy that's from Amazon.

1165
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: And then you need the cable service. If you want

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Speaker 1: to get something like HGTV and you want to get

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00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: something like the Golf Channel, you're probably going to have

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Speaker 1: to look into a service like YouTube TV, which is

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00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: going to run like eighty bucks a month. There are

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Speaker 1: other services out there. There are services that are cheaper

1171
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: like Filo. Filo TV is another one, and that will

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Speaker 1: give you some of the channels. It doesn't do a

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Speaker 1: lot with sports, and so this is seventy channels for

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Speaker 1: fifty bucks a month.

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Speaker 2: And if let's just I'm just going to look up

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Speaker 2: and see if golf is in there. So Golf channel

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Speaker 2: is not on there, and so what you want to

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Speaker 2: do is I would look up golf channel streaming service

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Speaker 2: and see which channel, which streaming provider has that that's

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Speaker 2: the cheapest.

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00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: And so if you go on their website, it will

1182
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: should tell you that I'm looking at this right now.

1183
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: So you need to figure that out. And then you

1184
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: need to just once you get all those things in line,

1185
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: connect them all up. So you've got you UG in

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00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: the streaming stick, and then you've got your service, and

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Speaker 1: then you've got you already said you have Netflix and Prime.

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: Now the only other thing you said is that your

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00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: Prime is really slow. So that tells me you may

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Speaker 1: have an issue with your router. And since you're going

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00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: fully streaming, you may want to upgrade your network to

1192
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: something like a mesh network system.

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Speaker 2: I recommend systems from.

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Speaker 1: Euro E E r O and also Villo v I

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Speaker 1: l O, but there are many others that will do it,

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00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: like Neckgear ORB. But also you may be able to

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: just go through Spectrum and ask them for a Wi

1198
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: Fi extender and they have those as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, good question coming up.

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Speaker 1: We are going to talk to the CEO of Sunbird Messaging.

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: They are bringing I message to Android. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich

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00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out talking technology with you at Triple

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00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: A Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one. Email address hello

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00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: at rich On Tech TV. Tom wrote in and said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I was listening to your description on the show regarding

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00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: United Airlines and the purchase of snacks using a credit card. So,

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Speaker 1: if I understand correctly, you have to use United Airline

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Speaker 1: app United Airlines app with a card attached. You can't

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Speaker 1: pay with a credit card by itself.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was trying to explain. So that's

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Speaker 1: what trips people up, is that you cannot present a

1215
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Speaker 1: credit card on United Airlines to pay for snacks and

1216
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: so and by the way, they do give you some

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Speaker 1: free snacks.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to do this. This is if you

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00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 1: Buy one of their boxes or a burger or something

1221
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: like that. But yes, you need to have the credit

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Speaker 1: card stored inside the app before you get on the

1223
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Speaker 1: airline because you cannot even though there is Wi Fi

1224
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: on the airline, you can't download the United Airlines app

1225
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: once you're on the airline, so once you're in flight,

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00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, so you have to set this all

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Speaker 1: up before and so literally I just watched people, you know,

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00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: as the flight attents are going down the aisles, and

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00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: they're just explaining this to everyone because it is kind

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00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: of confusing, like when are you not able to for something?

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00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: So it'd be nice. I get why they're trying to

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: do the contact list payment stuff, but it would be

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00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: nice if they were able to accept credit cards. But

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: they've got all kinds of stuff they even accept. I

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00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: think it's like Venmo or PayPal by like QR codes,

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00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: so they do give you options just if you're flying United.

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00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: My advice download any airline you go on, download, even

1238
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: if it's just a one time thing, download the app

1239
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: before you get on the plane because a lot of

1240
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: times you do get some benefits and features by downloading

1241
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: the app that you wouldn't typically get if you didn't.

1242
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: Like for Southwest, for example, you can activate free messaging

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00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: on the airline even if you don't pay for the Internet.

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00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: You can still get like I message and stuff and

1245
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: some other things as well. Same thing on United, even

1246
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 1: if you don't pay for the Internet. You can still

1247
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: activate free messaging, but you have to activate it first.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's how it all works, all right. Speaking

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: of messaging on the line, we've got Danny Misra. He

1250
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: is the CEO of Sunbird Messaging. They are bringing I

1251
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Message and other messaging apps to one messaging app called Sunbird,

1252
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: which is available on Android.

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00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: And Danny, welcome to the show.

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00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, thank you, Rich, thank you for having me, and

1255
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 12: happy holladays all those celebrating.

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: Thank you. So let's talk about Sunbird.

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00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: So this has been an app that a lot of

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: people are excited about because not only does it bring

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00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: I Message to Android, but it brings a unified messaging

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: we've gotten there's so many messaging apps at this point,

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00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: and so tell me what you're building with Sunbird.

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00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 12: Absolutely, we are so very excited. And so you know,

1264
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 12: there's a massive, massive, pent up demand to fix messaging

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00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 12: between androids and iPhones. I've never had an iPhone personally.

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00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 12: I've had an Android my whole adult life here and

1267
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 12: so I was one of those people that had to

1268
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 12: ask my parents who were maybe babysitting my kids, who

1269
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 12: were sending me videos blow resolutions you know, being in

1270
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 12: the group chat where everyone basically made fun of me

1271
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 12: and you know, kept on doing like to emphasize dislike.

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 12: If you know, if you have an Android, then you

1273
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 12: know what I'm talking about. You know that that kind

1274
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 12: of torture. And and so Garn and I, who have

1275
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 12: known each other for you know, over a decade, and uh,

1276
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 12: and he has this background in messaging and I have

1277
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 12: a background in cybersecurity and it, et cetera, said we

1278
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 12: can solve this problem. But then that the way that

1279
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 12: we solved it meant that we can do the same

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00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 12: thing for any messaging type. That was the big aha

1281
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 12: moment there. So I Message is actually just you know,

1282
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 12: maybe you can call it the prototype for some bird,

1283
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 12: but it happens to be just this ridiculous demand for

1284
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 12: androids and iPhones to finally communicate well with each other.

1285
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: Right yeah, well, okay, so let's talk about that whole situation.

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Because Apple overnight can launch I Message on androids and

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: they would be the number one messaging app pretty much

1288
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: in the US. Maybe I don't know about in the world,

1289
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: because there's a big emphasis on I Message here in

1290
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: the US, which is just not present anywhere else in

1291
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: the world. So why is Apple not releasing that. Let's

1292
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: start with that.

1293
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 12: Well, I can't really speak for them. I just know

1294
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 12: that they've been asked about it, and you know they've

1295
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 12: said it's not a priority for their users, right, So

1296
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 12: Apple focuses on their users and their ecosystem. If they

1297
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 12: were to create let's say, an API where it opens

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 12: up I message to the world, that's a huge business

1299
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 12: in itself, and that would take a couple of years. Similarly,

1300
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 12: you saw you know, Google do that with OURCS, right,

1301
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 12: create a messaging protocol based on opening up an API,

1302
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 12: and there's only one company that actually has access to API,

1303
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 12: which is faandsome. So you know, to create a business

1304
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 12: around an API, it takes years, and by then, we

1305
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 12: do believe we'll have millions and millions of users that launched.

1306
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 12: We know we're going to have millions of users.

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: So okay, I guess my big question is, well, how

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Speaker 2: does it work? Number one?

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Speaker 1: So you sign up on I mean right now, it's

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Speaker 1: a wait list, so there's some beta users and I

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Speaker 1: got a little taste of this. I got to try

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Speaker 1: this out myself, and so it's pretty simple. You just

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Speaker 1: kind of sign in with your Apple ID. But let's

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Speaker 1: talk about security because that you know, Apple doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: allow that per se like they don't. It's not like

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Speaker 1: with Google where they allow you know, you can authorize

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Speaker 1: third party apps with your Google app or your Google

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Speaker 1: logging right, like Apple doesn't really have that provision for this,

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Speaker 1: So you're sort of doing something that Apple may not like.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, tell me how that's how that's gonna work.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's it's a little hard to get

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Speaker 12: into the technical weeds, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 12: that's what the invention is.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 12: Two parts of this right privacy, security and confidentiality being

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Speaker 12: one of them. You know, Darren the inventor is twenty

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Speaker 12: years in fintech dealing with banks and technology before ten

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Speaker 12: years of messaging, and me personally, I have twenty years

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Speaker 12: in it, you know, in the last ten of which

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Speaker 12: has been in cybersecurity and compliance, you know, dealing with

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Speaker 12: things like GDPR in Europe and ISO twenty seven thousand

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Speaker 12: and one, auditing and stock to readiness right and the

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Speaker 12: California Consumer Protection So I know, privacy in and out,

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Speaker 12: and a huge part of this app is not storing data,

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Speaker 12: so that ties into the second part of your question,

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Speaker 12: which is the actual invention here? So what is the invention?

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Speaker 12: So the invention is maintaining encryption, right, So using the

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Speaker 12: native authentication. So for you, when you logged into I message,

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Speaker 12: it's user name, password and two factor authentication. But when

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Speaker 12: you add what's app into some bird, you're just scanning

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Speaker 12: the QR code so without getting two and that same idea.

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Speaker 12: Now it's in some bird also, so the next app

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Speaker 12: it's going to be using their authentication. So we're basically

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Speaker 12: building let's call it relay services in the cloud, right,

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Speaker 12: So relay services that get and this is what we

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Speaker 12: have a patent filed on as well. Right, So relay

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Speaker 12: services in the cloud that automatically open up the relay

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Speaker 12: maintain the encryption, right. And the cool thing is is

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Speaker 12: that as soon as it goes through our servers, it

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Speaker 12: automatically gets purged from our servers at the same time,

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Speaker 12: because if you're not storing data, you can't have compliance issues.

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Speaker 12: You can have hacking issues, right if you don't store data.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: My guest right now is Danny Mezrahi, CEO of Sunbird,

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Speaker 1: and they are building a messaging app that not only

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Speaker 1: brings I message to Android, but also a unified inbox

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Speaker 1: for all different types of messengers including WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger,

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Speaker 1: your text messages, later, Telegram, Discord, RCS, slack. You want

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Speaker 1: one place for all messages.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're.

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Speaker 4: Building, right, Rich.

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Speaker 12: Remember when we first got Outlook for the first time,

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Speaker 12: and I don't know your age, but you know I'm

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Speaker 12: old enough to have had Outlook with you know, I

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Speaker 12: attached my AOL address. You know, that's maybe too much

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Speaker 12: information now really show on my age, but you know

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Speaker 12: I attached my AOL, I touched my hot Hotmail, I

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Speaker 12: attached my Yahoo all to Outlook, right, which is called

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Speaker 12: the thin client. So think some bird as a thin client.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 12: So it's it's just the window to see all these messages.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 12: But when you look at all the data and you

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Speaker 12: see that people are spending four point two hours every

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Speaker 12: day scrolling through their messaging apps, going back and forth

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Speaker 12: between them, right, we want to claim a couple of

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Speaker 12: those hours. We want to make it a little easier

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Speaker 12: for people to say I don't have to go or

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Speaker 12: you know, we have I have a friend that said

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Speaker 12: that he got a message from a Facebook friend and

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Speaker 12: it was a very important message, and it was a

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Speaker 12: very timely message and basically a friend was in need

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Speaker 12: and he didn't have any other people that he communicated

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Speaker 12: on Facebook Messenger with.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you have it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed it, right, And this happens a lot

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Speaker 1: with LinkedIn messages. You know, these these services that you

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Speaker 1: sign up for and you may not check very often,

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Speaker 1: but if they're all in one place, of course you're

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Speaker 1: going to see them much much quicker. What about cost

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Speaker 1: for all this? Are you going to charge for this

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Speaker 1: service when it comes out? And when do we expect

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Speaker 1: to see this?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I mean right now, it's a free app and it

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Speaker 12: plans to be free through launch, and you know, with

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Speaker 12: millions and millions of users, frankly, we can keep it

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Speaker 12: free because then we have funding. I mean, you know

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Speaker 12: this is not brain surgery, right, so you know we

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Speaker 12: want to keep it free. We want to get the

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Speaker 12: user count up, and we want to keep our costs

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Speaker 12: a little. You know, we're getting our costs lower and lower,

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Speaker 12: which has been great, and so we're going to keep

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Speaker 12: it free.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 12: We do think we're going to have some premium premium features.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to, you know, do too much spoilers

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Speaker 12: in terms of you know, what are going to be

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Speaker 12: premium premium. I mean, we have some really cool features

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Speaker 12: like chat, GPT, changing the tone of a message, and

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Speaker 12: you know, face Android to Android face time, right, we

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Speaker 12: have some really cool features and store. The big, the

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Speaker 12: big subscription model that we do four C for now

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Speaker 12: would be unlocking the rest of the apps. We know

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Speaker 12: at launch we're going to do, you know, I Message

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Speaker 12: and WhatsApp or and or WhatsApp and Facebook and or

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Speaker 12: SMS and or r cs. Right, we think there's going

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Speaker 12: to be four or five you know, free apps at launch,

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Speaker 12: and we can get tens and tens of millions of

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Speaker 12: users just based on that, and that's what we want.

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Speaker 6: That's absolutely what.

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Speaker 9: We want, you know.

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Speaker 12: And then after that, if you want to unlock Telegram, Signal, line, discord, right, LinkedIn, messaging,

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Speaker 12: team spaces, all of these are doable, right the way

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Speaker 12: that the invention is any messaging app that we want

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Speaker 12: to bring into it, we can do that based on

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Speaker 12: the invention.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, We're gonna have to leave it there,

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Speaker 1: but it's very intriguing. And you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I did get to try the I Message on there

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Speaker 1: and it works.

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Speaker 2: My messages were coming through.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting there texting from an Android phone and

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Speaker 1: my wife and kid were getting the messages on their

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Speaker 1: iPhones and they were in blue, so blue bubbles on

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Speaker 1: Android both ways, it did work. Danny Mezrahi from Sunbird Messaging,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 2: How can folks find the app?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sumbird app.

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Speaker 12: I mean you could put some bird messaging into Google.

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Speaker 12: At this point, we're coming up a lot. You know,

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Speaker 12: we've been very very fortunate with a lot of great

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Speaker 12: you know, coverage and and but you know slombird app

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Speaker 12: dot com. You know, share this with your Android friends,

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Speaker 12: share this with you know, anyone who's you know, making

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Speaker 12: green bubbles in the group chat, and we love more

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Speaker 12: people on the wait list, and soon we're going to

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Speaker 12: get the app there everyone. We're working, you know what,

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Speaker 12: off on making sure that that happens.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks so much for joining me today. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: that coming up. Oh, rich Demiro here Rich On Tech

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Speaker 1: triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one.

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Speaker 2: Good song.

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Speaker 1: Courtney recommended that we play how to Save a Life

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Speaker 1: by the Fray thanks to my story about helping to

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Speaker 1: save a life in Hawaii. But I'm telling you, I

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Speaker 1: know I'm laughing now. But the thing the thing to

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Speaker 1: know this thing, where's my note? I wrote this down.

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Speaker 1: What it's called a rescue tube. That is what it's called.

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Speaker 1: I took a picture of this thing. It's like kind

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Speaker 1: of that long floaty thing that is. That was the

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Speaker 1: key to the entire rescue operation because I knew that

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Speaker 1: this adult I would not be able to swim back

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Speaker 1: to shore. But with the rescue tube, that floaty thing

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Speaker 1: that was, I told him to grab onto that and

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Speaker 1: I pulled that had a nice big cable like a cord,

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Speaker 1: and so I basically pulled him back into shore with that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: learn where the rescue tube is. When you go to

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Speaker 1: a beach, learn where the rescue tube is. That's my

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Speaker 1: advice to you. All right, let's go to Ron in

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Speaker 1: Orange County. Ron You're on with Rich Welcome.

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Speaker 5: To the show. Oh, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hold on and take you off to speak of Okay,

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Speaker 2: take off speaking.

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Speaker 11: I have a small business, sure, and I've been operating

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Speaker 11: it for years, and I'm trying to get better organized. Essentially,

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Speaker 11: when someone calls in, I want to be able to

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Speaker 11: input in some type of software, some affordable software that

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Speaker 11: I can dis log everything in, name, the phone number,

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Speaker 11: what they're calling about, so forth.

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Speaker 2: And do you have this software already?

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Speaker 11: No, I'm asking you, Okay, what would you recommend an

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Speaker 11: affordable software?

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Speaker 9: If not free?

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news is we live in an amazing

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Speaker 1: time right now, with so many great software options. So

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Speaker 1: I think what you're talking about is CRM software. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard that term?

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Speaker 2: I assume have.

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Speaker 1: I believe now you know this is not a small

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Speaker 1: business show. I'm not a small business owner. Well actually

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Speaker 1: I am, but I you know CRM is like customer

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Speaker 1: relationship management or something like that, right, And so you

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Speaker 1: know you want to put this information in there and

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Speaker 1: be able to remember the last time you talked to

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Speaker 1: this person, remember the last time they called, what they're

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Speaker 1: you know, and just it's it's kind of an address book,

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Speaker 1: but with more features, right right? Okay, So the big

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Speaker 1: company that I think revolutionized this world is Salesforce. They

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Speaker 1: came out with CRM software that was, you know, all

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Speaker 1: in the cloud and very different. So I think that

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Speaker 1: that's probably a you know, kind of the basic CRM

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Speaker 1: software that everyone knows, right and you have you heard

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Speaker 1: of that company Salesforce?

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Speaker 9: No? No, I haven't, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So Salesforce, I think is kind of like the

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Speaker 1: gold standard when it comes to this, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: going off of what I've heard in the past, what

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Speaker 1: I know, but Salesforce is kind of like the big one. Now,

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Speaker 1: with that said, there may be competitors that offer stuff

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Speaker 1: that is cheaper. You said you wanted something that is

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Speaker 1: less expensive, and so I'm looking at theirs. They're big

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Speaker 1: product customer three sixty, and I'm trying to look for pricing.

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Speaker 1: And that's where it gets a little tricky because it's

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Speaker 1: saying try for free, but it's not really saying how

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Speaker 1: much this is going to cost me. And so what

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Speaker 1: I would do is you can do a free trial,

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01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 1: which on their website, but I would look for some

1524
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: other alternatives to this. And so when I look for alternatives,

1525
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm seeing something called HubSpot hub Spot, and HubSpot puts

1526
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: the pricing right on the front page.

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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 9: Now this.

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01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: H that's yeah, that's that's a little expensive for that one.

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: So you're talking eight hundred dollars a month. That's probably

1530
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: not something you want to do. Then you've got something

1531
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: called Zoho Zho and I'm looking at that. That's fourteen

1532
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: bucks a month. That's sounding probably a little bit better.

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 5: Huh huh.

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So Zoho is something that's no, it's flexible, so

1535
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: there's no lock in, and it's looks like it's something

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: that might be worthwhile looking at. But those are just

1537
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: a couple of the companies that I would look at.

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01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: And the thing that I would do too is have

1539
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 2: you ever used the search the versus search versus versus?

1540
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,919
Speaker 1: So if you type in something on Google Salesforce versus,

1541
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: and then it comes up with all of the other

1542
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: companies that compete against that, So it's saying Salesforce versus,

1543
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: HubSpot Service, now, Zendesk, Shopify, So one of those companies

1544
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: may be something. So it's just a little bit of research.

1545
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: Now.

1546
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: Also, if you go on YouTube and you search hey,

1547
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 1: best CRM software Small Business twenty twenty three, that's another

1548
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,480
Speaker 1: way to look for the companies that people are recommending,

1549
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: and also you get a little taste of what they

1550
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: can do and a little idea of the features, and

1551
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: you say, oh, yeah, that's the feature I want.

1552
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: That's that's the cool thing.

1553
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: Some of these may be more complicated than you need,

1554
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: but that's the way that I would sort of research

1555
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: that situation.

1556
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: And you know what kind of company you're running.

1557
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 9: I have a legal service business.

1558
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: Okay, so legal services, so you know you want to

1559
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: keep track of your customers and all the things that

1560
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: they need and maybe even include some documents in this

1561
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: online service as well. So but that does that help

1562
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: you to kind of get you on the past?

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 9: Great your he I do appreciate.

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: All right, Ron, good luck with the legal services. People

1565
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: need them, you know when you need them. You don't

1566
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: want to need them, but sometimes you do, and when

1567
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: you do, you know it all right. Before we go

1568
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: to break here, let me tell you about best Buy

1569
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: launching these new recycle by mail technology boxes. This is

1570
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: so cool because someone like me, I have so much

1571
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it garbage, but so much

1572
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: stuff laying around the house. You know, you get these

1573
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: cables that you don't want to part with. You've got

1574
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: an old gadget here and there that you just don't

1575
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: You can't really throw out gadgets in the trash. You

1576
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: don't want to for environmental reasons. You want to recycle

1577
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: them properly, and so the first thing to do is

1578
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: to donate them if you can. But if they're not

1579
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: something that you would donate but you've just been holding

1580
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: on to. They now have these prepaid boxes from best

1581
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: buy dot com two options. A small box is twenty

1582
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: three bucks. It carries up to six pounds. A medium

1583
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: box can carry up to fifteen pounds. You order the box,

1584
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: you pay it. When it gets to your house, you

1585
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: fill it up with all your old gadgets lying around

1586
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: the house, whether it's a tablet, cords, keyboards, whatever it is,

1587
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: and they've got a full list of products that they

1588
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: will recycle. You take the prepaid box to your nearest

1589
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: UPS drop off or you schedule a pick up with UPS,

1590
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: and boom, your electronics are recycled. Best Buy says they

1591
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: are the nation's largest collector of e waste. They've recycled

1592
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: more than two point seven billion pounds of electronics. This

1593
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: is a pilot program, so we don't know if this

1594
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: is going to continue. But there's also other ways you

1595
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: can recycle stuff. You can drop off old electronics at

1596
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: best Buy. Sometimes they may charge you for some of

1597
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: that stuff, so it depends what it is like. If

1598
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: it's a big TV, they may charge you a little bit.

1599
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: There's an online service called gizmo Go that I recommend.

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01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: I've been to their recycling facilities gizmogo dot com. When

1601
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: I had to recycle my mom's computer, I brought it

1602
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: to Staples and it was completely free. And I know

1603
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,440
Speaker 1: that they ended or they stopped the program during the

1604
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: COVID pandemic, but check out Staples as well because they

1605
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: have a really good recycling program. Hopefully they've started again.

1606
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up later in the show, we're going

1607
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: to talk Tetris. I watched the movie on the plane.

1608
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: It's on Apple TV plus. We're going to talk to

1609
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,480
Speaker 1: my friend Dan Ackerman about all things Tetris plus. Walmart

1610
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: the next place you might charge your EV. You're listening

1611
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: to Rich on Tech, Give me a call eighty eight

1612
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 1: rich one O one. All right, now we're getting into

1613
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: the weeds with these songs. Ah oh, you know, you

1614
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel after you help save someone's life.

1615
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: Until you do it. And I'm telling you that handshake.

1616
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: I got a handshake from the guy. He was just

1617
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: like thank you. And you know, my kids and my

1618
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: wife they were by my side.

1619
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: They felt like a movie. We were running off into

1620
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: the sunset.

1621
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: And then I ran to my chair and finished my

1622
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: my tie. But I'm telling you, I looked at my

1623
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: Apple Watch my heart rate and I could see the

1624
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: exact time when I darted up from my chair to

1625
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: run out into the water. And again, like I said,

1626
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not like a mister athlete, but I

1627
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: can run fast. I do run and I can swim

1628
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: decently fast too. Anyway, let's go to a welcome back,

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: by the way, Rich DeMuro here, Rich on Tech Talking

1630
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: Technology triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight

1631
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: seven four to two for to one zero one.

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: Doug is in San Jose. Doug, you're on with Rich.

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 9: Hi there, Thanks for taking my call.

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,440
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling.

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01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 9: I'm wondering if you are aware of any problem nationwide

1636
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 9: with comcasts keeping their system up and running. And the

1637
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 9: reason I asked is because there's been an ongoing problem

1638
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 9: in my area of San Jose, which is ironic giving

1639
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 9: it the capital of Silicon Valley.

1640
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is.

1641
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 9: And the just in the past three or four days

1642
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 9: there have been system attages. This one is going on

1643
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 9: twenty four hours.

1644
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Okay, so and this happens quite often.

1645
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 11: Now.

1646
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: I've heard people complain about this service up there, but

1647
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't live up there, so I

1648
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: don't really know. And I feel like internet service can't

1649
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: really be out nationwide for a long way or for

1650
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: a long time, because you know, that would be pretty wild.

1651
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: So how long has it been out for you? And

1652
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: why is it out?

1653
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 9: I have no idea why it's out. Contasts will never

1654
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 9: provide that information. A few months ago they came through

1655
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,480
Speaker 9: and upgraded the system to quote unquote improve your experience.

1656
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 9: Hasn't exactly hasn't exactly done that interesting? I mean I've

1657
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 9: been on the phone with their phone techs who are

1658
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 9: ten thousand miles away, and then I've talked to their headquarters,

1659
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 9: which is I think is in Minneapolis. I'm not sure.

1660
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 9: I mean, I've been up and down the system, even

1661
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 9: complained to the FCC, and that's because I'm a cranky

1662
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 9: old man. But I need my I need my Internet.

1663
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, it's frustrating. It's totally frustrating. And

1664
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: this is the reason why I hate the fact that

1665
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: many people only have one option for Internet at their home,

1666
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: maybe too if you're lucky, I mean, and the second

1667
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: one may not be that good. But we are seeing

1668
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: more options come along with these wireless companies, the verizons

1669
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: of the world, the t mobiles, even the satellite Internet

1670
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: and some of these wireless internet companies. But I think

1671
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: one of them is not doing too well, so that's

1672
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: not really worked out pretty good. So most people, like

1673
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: I said, they don't have that many options, and so

1674
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck with this service. And also, you know,

1675
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: it comes down to the price you pay. Like you know,

1676
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe you have a different option, but it's more expensive.

1677
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: But let me kind of bring this out so that

1678
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: if you're having trouble with your service, you understand there's

1679
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: a couple of things you can do. So first off,

1680
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: I know that Exfinity has an outage map and you

1681
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: can put your address in so a lot of times,

1682
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: if you're having trouble with your internet Internet it can

1683
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: be localized to your home or to your neighborhood. Something

1684
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: that's happening there. You know, someone runs into a power

1685
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: line and you know, brings down the line. So I

1686
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: understand that these things are going to happen, but if

1687
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: it's going out over and over, it could either be

1688
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: the hardware on your end, it could be your neighborhood,

1689
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: or you know, it's just something is not right. And

1690
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: so the first thing I would do is check the

1691
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 1: Infinity outage map, and I would say almost every single

1692
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: service at this point that's online, you know, including ones

1693
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: that you don't pay for something like an I message,

1694
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: they all have these status maps. So if you type

1695
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: in like Apple service status on the website on Google,

1696
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 1: it will tell you if these things are functioning properly.

1697
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: So you can see a system status right now for

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: everything that Apple offers, the app Store, Apple Account, Apple Arcade, FaceTime,

1699
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: Find My game Center, home Kit. It will tell you

1700
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: if these things are down. So if you're having a

1701
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: problem with I Message, you can go there and see, Okay,

1702
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: is it just me or is it everyone that's having

1703
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: a problem with this stuff. So that's one way of

1704
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: doing it. Again. Infinity has its own which I'm looking up.

1705
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: It's exfinity dot com slash slash status map and you

1706
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: type in your address and it will tell you if

1707
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: that address is having a problem. And so in this case, Doug,

1708
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: you can type in your actual service address. I'm not

1709
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: going to ask you for that on the radio, but

1710
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: you can type that in and it will tell you

1711
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: is this a problem for everyone or just you?

1712
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 2: So that's Exfinity.

1713
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: Whether whether your service is Infinity or AT and T

1714
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, they should have something similar to that. The

1715
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: other thing is a website called down Detector, and this

1716
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: website is a sort of a bigger website that will

1717
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: tell you what's having trouble at any given time. And

1718
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: if you look the top things that are having trouble

1719
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 1: at any given time or always the Internet services themselves.

1720
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the top kind of things that

1721
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: are down. Spectrum, Verizon, Starlink, T Mobile, AT and T

1722
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: is on there, and then you go down Inxfinity is

1723
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: actually lower on the list cos you know it has everything.

1724
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: But you can see a little line of when people

1725
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: submit things that are wrong with these services. So if

1726
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: you see a spike and the line looks like it's red,

1727
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: that means there's a problem at any given time. And

1728
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: so this is downdetector dot com. You can type in

1729
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: the service you're having problem with. Let's say, or Instagram

1730
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: isn't working.

1731
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: I N S T A g r M.

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01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: You type in Instagram and it will show you if

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01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: Instagram is having trouble, and let's see, does it go

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Speaker 1: by Instagram Maybe it doesn't, Maybe it just goes by

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Speaker 1: Facebook or Meta.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 1: I'll type in Facebook, and so here's Facebook telling you

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, and then you can type in a problem.

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: You can say I'm having a problem with Facebook, website, app, login,

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01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 1: something else, and then it gives you the outage reports

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01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: for the last twenty four hours. You can see if

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01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: you're having trouble, and there's been a whole bunch of

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01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: people that are saying we have outages as well. You

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01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: can understand that. So that's a website called downdetector dot com.

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01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: And then this is another website that's really good. So

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: if you're having trouble accessing website, like people will tell me, hey, Rich,

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble accessing Rich on tech dot tv and

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01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: I go on my phone and it's working just fine

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01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: for me. So this website, if you go to down

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01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: for Everyone or just me dot com, you can type

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: in a website so I'm gonna type in rich on

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01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: tech dot tv and it goes to that website from

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: its own browser, and so it checks to see is

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01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: it down for everyone or just you? And it's telling

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: me it's just you. Rich on tech dot tv is up.

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01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: And you can check a different website if you want,

1757
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: so if you're having trouble with a specific website, you

1758
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: can see if it's for everyone or just you. So

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: those are three good resources for looking up you know,

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01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: what's going on in your area, Doug. I know it's frustrating,

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: and especially with Internet, it's really frustrating when it goes down.

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: Thankfully we have our phones. You can pop into that

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: hotspot if you need it. But when it's going on

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01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 1: a couple of days or you know, weeks even, or

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: if it's just happening over and over, that's when it's

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01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: time to try to figure out what exactly is going on.

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Speaker 1: So good question. Thanks for in and appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: Walmart launching coast to coast EV fast Charging network across

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Speaker 1: all of its stores, so they are building their own

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Speaker 1: coast to coast EV fast Charging network by twenty thirty,

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: so basically you will be able to go to a

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01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: Walmart store and charge your car fast. And this is

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: kind of the trend that we're seeing with these fast chargers.

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01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: They're starting to pop up at more and more stores.

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Speaker 1: So Walmart says they already have thirteen hundred fast charging

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Speaker 1: stations across two hundred and eighty retail stores with Electrify America.

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01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: But this is going to be a coast to coast

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01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So Walmart says that they have, let's see,

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: by twenty thirty, they're going to build this. They say

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01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: they have a store club located within ten miles of

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01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: approximately ninety percent of Americans, okay, and it'll be at

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01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: super centers, neighborhood markets, and Sam's Club, so you'll be

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01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: able to go into the store and charge while you

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01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: go into the store. They didn't say if it's going

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01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: to oh, yep, in line with our purpose, we aim

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01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: to offer everyday low price charging, so this is not

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 1: going to be free charging, but they will have low prices,

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: and we know Walmart definitely has low prices, so it

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01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: should hopefully be pretty reasonable. But again, this is the

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01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: charge that we're seeing. You know, these chargers are showing

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Speaker 1: up at more and more stores, which I think is

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01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: very convenient because they have the space, They've got the

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01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: parking lots, and it's very easy to charge inside these

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01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: stores because you know, are outside these stores because you

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01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: can run in for something. And really, when it comes

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01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: to electric car charging, let's be honest, most people are

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Speaker 1: charging at home or at work. This is for when

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Speaker 1: you're on a road trip or you just need a.

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Speaker 2: Quick fill up.

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Speaker 1: To have a location like Walmart is very convenient because

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Speaker 1: if you know where one is, or if you're even

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01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: on a road trip you see that Walmart sign on

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01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: the side of the road, you know, Okay, I'll take

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01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: a little pit stop at Walmart, I'll charge my car

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01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: and I'll be on my way, and I know it's

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01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: going to be a pretty good price. So glad that

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Walmart is doing that.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we're going to talk to

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: my pal Dan Ackerman from CNET.

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01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: My day's at c NEET.

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01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: It feels like it's further and further away, but we're

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01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: going to talk to Dan Ackerman. He wrote a book

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: about Tetris, and then when I saw the movie, I said,

1815
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: we got to talk to Dan about the movie and

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01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: Tetris in general. All these years later, I'm still playing

1817
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: Tetris and yes I had the original game Boy, so

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him. And we'll also talk about Google

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01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: bringing air Drop, their version of air drop to Windows.

1820
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: So if you have an Android phone, it is now

1821
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: much easier to transfer files from your Android phone to

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 1: your Windows computer. All that plus your calls at triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two, four to one zero one. If you have

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: a question about technology, give me a call. Phone lines

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Speaker 1: are opening. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology with

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Speaker 1: you at triple eight rich one oh one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about recycling Earlier. I mentioned the Staples

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: recycling and it went away during COVID, but.

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Speaker 2: It is back.

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Speaker 1: So probably one of the easiest places to recycle stuff

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01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: is your local Staples store. So they said that they

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Speaker 1: have recycled one hundred and fifty three million is that million? Yeah,

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01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: pounds of technology since twenty twelve, and you can basically

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01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: just bring it in for free as far yeah free.

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Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed. We brought back my mom's computer

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01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe how easy it was. In fact,

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01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: look at this. They'll give you five bucks in rewards

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01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: when you recycle or shred in store. And this is

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01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: not We're not you know, you can do like things

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01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: like ink cartridges, but this will. They'll take back almost anything.

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01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: Adapters and cables, all in one, computers, battery backup cable,

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01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: satellite receivers, calculators, camquarders, E readers, fax machines, GPS devices,

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01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: all this stuff that you have sitting there and you

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01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: don't want to throw in the trash because it's bad

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01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: for the environment. You can now it to a staple store.

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01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: So what can't be recycled there? Air conditioners, alkaline batteries, appliances,

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01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: floor model, printers and copiers. Can you imagine? Can you

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01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: imagine unloading that from your car? Like here you go,

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01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: let me, here's my copyer, my xerox machine, kitchen, appliances, lamps,

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: large servers, large speakers, smoke detectors, televisions. Don't bring TVs there,

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01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 1: they cannot recycle them at staples. Computers, yes, how about monitors, yes, monitors,

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01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,799
Speaker 1: you can printers, all that good stuff. So anyway, really

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01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: easy to recycle there. I was quite impressed, but the

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01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: box now we have options. In fact, next week I'm

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01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: going to a recycling plant down in Carlsbad, and so

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01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to see first hand. You know, Earth Days

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01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: coming up, so I'm going to see firsthand how they

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01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 1: recycle some of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty wild. I mean they it's like melting

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01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: and shredding and all this good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Better Business Bureau put out some tips about how to

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Speaker 1: give yourself a spring digital makeover. They're teaming up the

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01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: National Cybersecurity Alliance to remind you that not only when

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01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: you spring clean like this today, I opened up my

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01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: garage and I said, we got to get rid of

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01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. And so not only do you

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01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: want to get rid of all of your physical clutter

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01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: in your house when you spring clean, remember the digital

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01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: clutter and also security. So they gave a couple of tips.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read some of them here because I thought

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01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,879
Speaker 1: they were pretty good. I mean, it's stuff you've heard before,

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01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 1: but I think that it's good to reiterate this stuff.

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01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: So Number one, lock down your login, so make sure

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: that your logins are complex and unique. So if you're

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: having trouble with this concept, I'm telling you you can't

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01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: add a one or a exclamation point to your word

1880
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: that you use over and over and expect it to

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01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: be safe. That is just not the case. So please

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01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: use complex passwords. You can generate them even if you

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: don't use a password generator. Okay, if you just type

1884
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: in password generator on the way and you go to

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01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: a website like Norton Password Generator, one Password password Generator,

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01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: Bitwarden Password Generator, all of these websites have password generators

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01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: online and you can just go there and generate a

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01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: secure password. So even if you don't want to use

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01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: one of those apps, I always recommend you can actually

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01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: just do this online and write down the password. That's

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01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: better than nothing. So do that two factor authentication. I've

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01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: talked about it a million times. Please please please put

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01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: that on any account that will accept it. Update your

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01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: system and software, update your software.

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01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: You have to do it.

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: I know we don't like change, but you have to

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01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: do this because that's what keeps your software secure and safe,

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01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: and it's what the hackers do.

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01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: They use exploits.

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01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: So when software gets old, there are known exploits, there

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01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: are known ways of cracking that software and getting in

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01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,919
Speaker 1: and doing bad stuff, and so if you update your software,

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01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: you're staying at least a little step ahead of some

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01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: of the problems that have been found and they're patched.

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01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: Back it up.

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01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Back up your personal and workplace data by making electronic

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01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: copies backups of your most important files. Use the three

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01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 1: two one rule to help guide you. You want three

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 1: backup copies. I know it sounds like a lot, two

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01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: different media types and one offline in a separate location.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you an example of the iPhone. Okay,

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01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 1: now when you say three different places, so one of

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01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: those places could be your phone, and then you want

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01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 1: it in two other places. So maybe you plug your

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01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,919
Speaker 1: phone into your computer and you do a full backup

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: of that computer or that phone that is stored on

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Speaker 1: your computer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now that's two.

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01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: Now you've got your data on your phone, you've got

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Speaker 1: it on your computer, and then you want it in

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Speaker 1: a third place. So let's say you use Google Photos

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01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: for your photos, use iCloud for your important files. That

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01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: would be three places that would be sufficient. So again,

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Speaker 1: I know we don't want to do this stuff, we

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01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: don't want to pay for storage online, but do it

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01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: because if it has weepens to you and you'll lose

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01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: your stuff. And believe me, I get the emails. It's

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01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: not fun people lose this stuff.

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Speaker 2: We had an email.

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Speaker 1: We had a person the other day who said they lost,

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01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen thousand photos on their phone.

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Speaker 2: Because they just didn't check the backup.

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Speaker 1: At the very least, if you're an Amazon Prime customer,

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Speaker 1: just download the Amazon Photos app. It's free and it

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01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: will download your photos or will it will back up

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Speaker 1: your photos to the cloud unlimited. It's not going to

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Speaker 1: do videos unlimited, but it will do photos unlimited. If

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01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: you're an Amazon Prime customer, take advantage of that. At

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01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: least get the pictures uploaded. And by the way, you

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01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: can't just download this app and never open it again.

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01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: You have to open up the app every once in

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Speaker 1: a while to make sure that you are actually backing

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Speaker 1: up your pictures.

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Speaker 2: I also like Google Photos.

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Speaker 1: Of course you've heard me talk about that clean up

1946
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Speaker 1: your online presence. So this is a good one too.

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Speaker 1: And this is something that I do often on my phone.

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Speaker 1: I will just go through my phone and just kind

1949
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Speaker 1: of delete apps that I don't use anymore. That's good

1950
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: to do because if an app you know has access

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Speaker 1: to your contacts, your photos, you're not using it, you

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Speaker 1: don't really want that.

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Speaker 2: Also, make sure that.

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Speaker 1: You get rid of old accounts, and so if you're

1955
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Speaker 1: not using an account anymore, just go ahead and delete it.

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Speaker 1: There are ways to delete these accounts. There used to

1957
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: be a website that I've liked. Believe it's just delete me.

1958
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: And so if you go to just delete me, just

1959
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Speaker 1: delete dot me, it will give you a whole list

1960
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Speaker 1: of ways to delete accounts. So if you want to

1961
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Speaker 1: delete your Instagram or your Aol or anything Adobe, it

1962
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Speaker 1: will tell you how to do that.

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Speaker 2: There was another one I liked.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what the other one wash Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember right now off the top of my head,

1966
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: But there was a there was another website that would

1967
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: help you delete these things. But if you just google

1968
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: the service that you want to delete, along with delete,

1969
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Speaker 1: you should find instructions online with how to delete that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So please do these.

1971
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Speaker 1: Things, clean up your online presence, and just get these

1972
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Speaker 1: things in order before it's too late. All right, Coming up,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Dan Ackerman. He is author of

1974
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Speaker 1: The Tetris Effect. We're going to talk all things Tetris.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, one of my favorite games in the world.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the feedback section of the show

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Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later, but first we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about one of my favorite games in the world, Tetris.

1981
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Speaker 1: I watched the new Apple TV Plus movie on the airplane,

1982
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Speaker 1: and I thoroughly enjoyed it. A little nostalgic, little fun,

1983
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Speaker 1: little action, little intrigue, little saga. Here to talk about

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Speaker 1: all of it is Dan Ackerman, who I used to

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Speaker 1: work with at Cenet. He wrote the book called The

1986
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Tetris Effect, which is available on Amazon way before the

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Speaker 1: movie came out.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Rich good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Dan, let's just be clear the show was not based

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Speaker 1: on your book, but since you're the Tetris expert, I

1993
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Speaker 1: figured we'd chat about Tetris.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. The producers of the movie did a great job.

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Speaker 4: They did not license my book, but it covers the

1996
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Speaker 4: story in a very similar way.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about Tetris. First off, what drew you

1998
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Speaker 1: to this game to write a book about it?

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Speaker 4: You know, what I was really interested in is Less

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Speaker 4: the game, which is an important game, one of the

2001
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 4: most important games ever, but really the story behind it,

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01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 4: which reminded me of kind of a Silicon Alley tech

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Speaker 4: startup story, except it took place in the Cold War

2004
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 4: Soviet Union in the nineteen eighties. But the parallels between

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01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,919
Speaker 4: this and you know, the story of the service Facebook

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Speaker 4: or any other social media company or a big tech

2007
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 4: company really jumped out at me.

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Speaker 1: And so was the movie. The movie is called Tetris.

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Speaker 1: It's on Apple TV plus. Was it did it say

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Speaker 1: based on a true story? I think it did so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much of this was true as you

2012
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Speaker 1: watched it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I got to say most of it was pretty was

2015
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Speaker 4: tracking pretty well with the history as I wrote it,

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Speaker 4: up until maybe like the last twenty minutes where they

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Speaker 4: get into the the KDP agents beating people up and

2018
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Speaker 4: the car chases. Everything up until then is actually pretty

2019
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 4: dead on, even though it seems like you have these cartoonists,

2020
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Speaker 4: you know, characters in the Soviet Union trying to shake

2021
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Speaker 4: people down, and you have all this confusion about all

2022
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 4: these people buying for the rights of the game. Really,

2023
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 4: I'd say seventy five eighty percent of that stuff happened

2024
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Speaker 4: pretty darn close to how they put it in that movie.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So how did you do research for your book?

2026
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Speaker 4: You know, when I was sitting down to tell this

2027
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Speaker 4: story in my book, obviously I got in touch with

2028
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Speaker 4: a lot of the primary people in the you know,

2029
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Speaker 4: in the story, and a lot of the characters usually

2030
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Speaker 4: portrayed in the film are people I interviewed for the book.

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Speaker 4: Henk Rogers, like Depositov, even Starter Maya, our Colla from Nintendo,

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Speaker 4: Howard Lincoln, So a lot of the characters, and they

2033
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Speaker 4: all had great stories to tell, and they all told

2034
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Speaker 4: the stories from their own point of view, so there

2035
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Speaker 4: were some discrepancies and you kind of have to go

2036
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Speaker 4: through it and say, this guy remembers it this way,

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Speaker 4: this guy remembers it that way, and try to figure

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Speaker 4: out what the most likely version of the truth.

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Speaker 2: Wash and what is so great about Tetris? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So of course I got the Game Boy back in

2042
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Speaker 1: I don't know what year it was, but that was

2043
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Speaker 1: kind of like the first thing I remember having as

2044
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: a kid was like this, I think it was ninety dollars.

2045
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: I bought a like KB toy store, and I think

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01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: Tetris was the game that was included with it, right,

2047
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean that was a.

2048
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 4: Real big part of Tetris's long term success was getting

2049
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 4: packed in with that game boy. And it happens very

2050
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 4: much like you saw in the Texas movie where Hank

2051
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 4: Rogers convinced Nintendo to put this new game in Tetris

2052
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Speaker 4: instead of something like a Donkey Kong game or a

2053
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Speaker 4: Mario game or a Zelda game, even though those games

2054
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 4: have huge built in audiences. And the pitch was this

2055
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,480
Speaker 4: is a game for people who would never call themselves gamers,

2056
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 4: you know, parents, teachers, people who didn't have game console.

2057
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Speaker 4: It's really more of a puzzle. And if they think, oh,

2058
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 4: I'm just playing this little box I bought at like

2059
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 4: you said, a KB twys or ninety bucks, but it's

2060
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 4: a puzzle, almost like a crossword and not a video game,

2061
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 4: well then I'm into it. And that's why so many

2062
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 4: people played Tetris. But you they would never call themselves gamers.

2063
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Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean, because yeah, anyone can play it, anyone

2064
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: can pick it up. It's been made into so many

2065
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: different variations. I mean I was playing, you know, a Tetris,

2066
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: I think I've played it on every single device I've

2067
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Speaker 1: had since the Game Boy, whether it's a console box

2068
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: or whether it is a I'm just trying to think,

2069
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Speaker 1: like all the different ways I've played over the year, so,

2070
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, smartphones, cell phones, and it's all had different names.

2071
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 1: Is the Tetris Company still around and are they still likened?

2072
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Like what's the deal with Tetris at this point in time?

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

2074
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Speaker 4: One of the nice things about the company and the

2075
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 4: game is that there's a Tetris company and it's run

2076
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 4: by Hank Rogers and his daughter, and the LECTIPOSIV was

2077
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Speaker 4: a partner in that, and these two guys who were

2078
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 4: the protagonist of that film and the protagonist of my book,

2079
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 4: and I think the agonists in real life ended up

2080
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 4: owning the rights to the game and they've been administering

2081
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 4: it ever since. So it's one of these great stories

2082
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 4: about you know, creative ip where the good guys actually win.

2083
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: And what is it about Tetris that I mean you

2084
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: said that anyone can play it. I mean it's a

2085
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: puzzle and it's simple, but I still can't get enough,

2086
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: you know, thirty years.

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01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 4: Later, you know it's it's the geometic spatial you know,

2088
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 4: you know, recognition of the patterns. Scientists study how the

2089
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 4: game affects your brain, and they've shown that it can

2090
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,879
Speaker 4: help people prevent them from developing PTSD after traumatic incident

2091
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 4: because it rewires and rewrites some of the you know,

2092
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 4: memory pathways in the brain that are traumatic event would

2093
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 4: would write to you know, long term, so you'd have flashbacks.

2094
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 4: And other scientists have studied how your brain is more

2095
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 4: efficient playing Tetris. It's not that you get better at

2096
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 4: the game, it's that your brain uses less power to

2097
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 4: do the same amount of mental work in the game.

2098
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 4: So there's something very unique about how it's a game

2099
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 4: but there's no story and there's no characters. It really

2100
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 4: requires a lot of unconscious thinking and that's something that

2101
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 4: even a lot of twitch games don't have.

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Speaker 1: So I was going to ask you, I'm gonna put

2103
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: you on the spot. Is there a game similar to

2104
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: Tetris that you've seen in the past couple of years

2105
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: that you would recommend people play, Like if you love Tetris,

2106
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 1: like something that you've seen that would be just as fun.

2107
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 4: You know, I always loved Luminous, and I think candy

2108
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 4: Crush style games have a little bit of that, you know,

2109
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 4: in spatial pattern Recognition Rush. It's really tough to beep

2110
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 4: the original, especially when there were still kind of interesting

2111
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 4: new versions coming out even all this time later.

2112
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Speaker 9: There's a game.

2113
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 4: Called Tetris Effect that there's a really nice job of

2114
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 4: updating and modernizing the game, and it actually works in

2115
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 4: virtual reality, which is a whole another level. And I

2116
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 4: think it's just really fantastic in the VR three D space.

2117
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 4: And you can do that on you know, Oculus and

2118
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,520
Speaker 4: on PlayStation VR and regular PCVR.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I have to try that one, okay, Hevin, I said,

2120
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Speaker 1: I played on all the platforms. I have not tried

2121
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: it in VR. Yeah, I kind of do that. Well, okay,

2122
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: so you said Candy Crush and what was the other one?

2123
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: Luminous.

2124
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 4: Luminous is a great one, and that's actually one of

2125
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 4: the guys who designed that new texas of that game.

2126
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 4: Luminus was one of his earlier games.

2127
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Speaker 1: What surprised you when you're writing the book, anything that

2128
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 1: you really were surprised at?

2129
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 4: You know, there are a couple of really surprising things

2130
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 4: that did not make it into the movie version that

2131
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 4: you saw. But Russia really wanted to get into the

2132
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 4: business and manufacturing Nintendo console, being in business with Nintendo

2133
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 4: in a big way. And they tried to convince Howard

2134
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 4: Lincoln and other people at Nintendo of this, and they

2135
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 4: took him, Howard Lincoln, who's in the film. They took

2136
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 4: him to one of the top secret cosmonaut training facilities

2137
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 4: and gave him a big tour and so, you know,

2138
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 4: we can put the Nintendo logo on the side of

2139
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 4: a rocket going up. You know, anything you want, we

2140
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 4: can do it. Let's make a deal. And of course

2141
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 4: that didn't happen because you can imagine how you know,

2142
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 4: not great a Soviet Union manufactured Nintendo entertainment system would be.

2143
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 4: But the fact that they did all that and gave

2144
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 4: him this, like the behind the scenes secret Cosna tour,

2145
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 4: I was always one of the wildest parts of the story.

2146
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is wild that we would have

2147
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: been forever change. We'd be talking about banning Nintendo at

2148
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: this point like we are with TikTok if that was

2149
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Speaker 1: the case. Okay, so do you recommend do you recommend

2150
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Speaker 1: that folks watched this movie on Apple TV bus I

2151
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Speaker 1: watched it on a plane, and so I have a

2152
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: different place in my brain for movies that I watch

2153
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: on the plane, because it's like, Okay, you know, I

2154
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: wasn't my regular self when I was watching this, but

2155
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it, and I thought some of it

2156
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: was like, actually, the characters were so over the top

2157
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: that I thought at some point it was almost like

2158
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Speaker 1: a characature of a character. But that's what part of

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Speaker 1: the love. Part of what I liked about this movie

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Speaker 1: was that, Yeah, what I.

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Speaker 4: Liked about it was it really carries forward that Cold

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01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 4: War spy thriller theme, which is the same way I

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01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 4: wrote about the book, And I don't think anyone had

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01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 4: really covered the Order of Texas like that before. But

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Speaker 4: it's pretty dark, true to life. Some of the outrageous

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01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 4: stuff really happened. Sometimes the characters are a little different

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01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 4: than they kind of invented, like that KTB bad guy

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Speaker 4: who you know most of his stuff was actually done

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01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 4: by one of the other characters in there. But until

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Speaker 4: you get to the car chases and like the fistfights,

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01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 4: it really wasn't all that exaggerated. Shockingly wow.

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Speaker 1: All right, if you want to try Apple TV Plus

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01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: if you don't have a subscription, I just looked in

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Speaker 1: the target app if you're a Target circle member, you

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01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: can go into my Target on the app Apple tv

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01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 1: Plus free for three months, so you can sign up

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Speaker 1: watch this completely for free. So that's one way of

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Speaker 1: doing it. I'm sure there's other ways of getting Apple

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Speaker 1: tv Plus. Dan Ackerman is my guest from Cnet. Dan,

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01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: how are things going since I left Cnet? Probably what

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Speaker 1: fifteen years ago? At this point, I.

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Speaker 4: Can't I can't imagine that it's been that long.

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Speaker 6: That is crazy.

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Speaker 4: But of course I always look running into you at

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Speaker 4: Apple events and other type events. It seems like there's

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Speaker 4: a huge network of NEET alumni out there and we

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01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 4: all just keep you know, stay in touch and keep

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01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 4: running into each other.

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Speaker 2: And you're covering what over there at this point, you know, a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of computer stuff and gaming, home entertainment, really a

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Speaker 4: lot of that tra personal tech that you think of

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Speaker 4: the brand.

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Speaker 1: All right, absolutely go follow Dan Ackerman on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: all the different social media platforms that he's on. And Dan,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to play more Tetris now.

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Speaker 2: All right, take care?

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're going to have the feedback

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Speaker 1: section of the show. The more I do, the show,

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01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: the more feedback we get. Plus, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: you how Google is now guaranteeing that if you your

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Speaker 1: flight price goes down, they will pay you the difference.

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Speaker 1: I'll explain that coming up right here on rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here closing

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Speaker 1: out the show with you with the feedback segment. But first,

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, I just want to tell

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Speaker 1: you about the new feature on Google Flights, which, if

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01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: you heard me talk about booking travel, I pretty much

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Speaker 1: only use Google Flights to look up my flights, and

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Speaker 1: so this is flights or I should say shop for

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Speaker 1: flights flights dot Google dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'm on there multiple times on.

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Speaker 1: A daily basis, so I love this website and they're

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Speaker 1: adding this new feature that basically, if your price goes

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Speaker 1: down on the flight, they will reimburse you. So if

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Speaker 1: you see a flight with this price guarantee badge, they

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Speaker 1: are confident that the price you see will not get

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Speaker 1: any lower. So Google, of course has a ton of data.

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Speaker 1: They know they've been tracking historic pricing data for flights,

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Speaker 1: and they bought a company that helps them do that,

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01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: so they know that they think the price isn't going

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Speaker 1: to go down before you fly, and so if it does,

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Speaker 1: they will send you back the difference via Google pay.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of annoying, but I'd rather have PayPal, but

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01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: I'll take Google pay whatever. But you have to see

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Speaker 1: this badge. You have to see this flight price guarantee badge.

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Speaker 1: And it does not show up on every flight. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I searched a whole bunch of flights. I didn't get

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01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: it to show up once. But in their example they

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01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 1: they showed like like a what was it like an

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01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: Alaska Airlines flight. So if you see that little badge,

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Speaker 1: you can do that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: The other thing you can do on Google Flights is

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Speaker 1: just track the price of your flight. But I've found

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Speaker 1: a couple of times the price of the flight will

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Speaker 1: go down when you track it. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: it just goes up. So my advice stays with all

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01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's still the same all these years later.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to booking a plane flight, if the

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Speaker 1: price seems good to you at the time, go ahead

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01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: and book it. Because it may go up, it may

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01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: go down a little bit, But the reality is, if

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01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: it feels like a fair price, go for it, because,

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01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: believe me, I've tracked prices for a long long time,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes they just never go down or they never change.

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01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes they just go up and up and up, and

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01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: you just feel kind of like, why do I keep

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01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 1: watching this price go up?

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Speaker 2: You just got a book when it feels right to

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Speaker 2: your Ruth.

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Speaker 1: Wrote in feedback section, Hey, Rich, I watch you on

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01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: WGNTV in Chicago and listen to your podcast. In the

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01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: last three weeks, my visa card has been hacked repeatedly,

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Speaker 1: which means issuing a new car every time. Chase has

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01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: been good about sending fraud notices. Any suggestions. Also, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting a second visa card so I'm not left with

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01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: nothing while waiting for a new card. Thanks Ruth in

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01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Glenn Allen, Illinois. Ruth, my advice is to not use

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Speaker 1: your the same card online that you're using out and about,

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01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 1: so I would think about getting a separate card just

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01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: for online purchases. Or you can use a website that

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01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 1: I use. It's called privacy dot com and you have

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Speaker 1: to link it up to your debit card or your

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01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: checking account or I think a savings account. But it

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Speaker 1: gives you a one time use virtual card number, So

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Speaker 1: that's a way to get around this, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think Chase offers virtual card numbers, but some of the

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01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: other credit card companies do. But I would look into

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Speaker 1: using virtual card numbers, so when you're shopping online, you

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01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: can use a one time card number that does not

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Speaker 1: give away your actual credit card because for some reason,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is these I don't know

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01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 1: why how they get it. But sometimes you use your

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01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: credit card online, next thing you know, it's hacked. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen just online. It could happen in store too,

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Speaker 1: so it just really depends. But I would try to

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Speaker 1: limit the exposure to your credit card number. My rule

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Speaker 1: of thumb I try to use my debit card as

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01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 1: much as possible, So anytime my card leaves my hand,

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01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 1: I typically like to use a credit card just to

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 1: give me that little buffer between myself and that number.

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01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: So a credit card, if it gets hacked, a lot easier.

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Speaker 1: You don't really have to worry about as much. You

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01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: just call your company and say, hey, look this happened,

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01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: and they're going to reverse the charges. But if your

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01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 1: debit card, it's a little trickier because the money already

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01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: comes out of your account. So again my rule of

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01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: thumb if the card leaves my hand, I usually like

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01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: to use a credit card. The other way to do

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01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: it is to use tap to pay, which protects both

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01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: your debit card number and your credit card number equally well.

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01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 1: And anytime you can online shop with something like Google

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01:46:55,680 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Pay or Apple Pay, and a lot of times you

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01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: have to shop from your phone to get that button

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01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: to show up, but you can do that as well.

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01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Like on the Southwest app I was talking about it

2298
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: was booking a flight. It was very easy to book

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01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: because I could just use Apple Pay right through my phone.

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01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: So again, limit your exposure privacy dot com is also

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01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: a good way to do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here. I have so much feedback now from

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01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 2: the show. John writes in.

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01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: John from Appleton, Wisconsin says, another very informative show. You

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01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 1: had a nice discussion about free and Paige streaming services

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01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: with commercials or ad free. Here's my question. When TV

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01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: shows are sold for syndication, there's content removed to make

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01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,839
Speaker 1: room for more commercials. Not sure if that's the case. Okay,

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01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Today when we stream Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld x Files, are

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01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,839
Speaker 1: we seeing shows in their entirety as they first appeared

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01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: on network TV? Or are we seeing the edited version.

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01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing the shows in their entirety because

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01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 1: with streaming they can do whatever they want, so there's

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01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: no need to cut anything. It doesn't need to fit

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01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: into this. You know, typically it's twenty three minutes of

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01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 1: show seven minutes of commercials per hour, so I don't

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01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: think they need to cut anything when it's streaming. In fact,

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01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: I was watching Friends and Seinfeld on streaming services and

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01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was the entire entire show. So

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01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: I think that that's probably your best bet. And these shows, man,

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Speaker 1: they keep having a life.

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01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 2: Huh.

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01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,759
Speaker 1: Many years after I did a show, I did a movie.

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01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: I did It's gonna Sound funny. I was on the

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01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: cutting room floor of Zoolander two, Like they didn't even

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01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 1: use my part, and I'm still getting residual checks when

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01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: people watch that movie.

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01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess because they paid me to be

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01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 1: in the movie. I somehow, even though I didn't end

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01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: up in the movie. You know, when it comes to

2332
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff, you still get your check. So I

2333
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 1: still just got to check. This weekend wasn't much, but

2334
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: still there. And it shows you all the places people

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01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 1: watch it streaming is a big one. Mark says, I'm

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01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: a bit behind. Listening to episode number twelve. Two observations.

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01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: One woman had a friend with an iPad was asking

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01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 1: about a chromebook. One option is maybe getting a keyboard

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01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: case for the iPad instead of a chromebook. It's cheaper

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01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: and no need to learn a new device. Any bluetooth

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01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: keyboard would work with an iPad. Yeah, an iPad is

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01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 1: a good alternative. I think if you're just consuming content,

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01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,839
Speaker 1: an iPad is really good. But I think a chromebook

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01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: is a little bit easier if you're trying to do

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01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 1: more on there, and so I think that's I'll recommend

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01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: an iPad when I think it's necessary. But I think

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01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: in that case, I actually forgot it might have been

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01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 1: a good option. I just forgot completely. Second item was

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01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 1: about the woman with a Lisa computer. Those are selling

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01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: for up to fifty thousand dollars on the market for

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01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 1: vintage technology these days.

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01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if she mentioned she had a Lisa

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01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 1: or she worked on Alisa back in the day.

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01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 2: So that's oh gosh, this is a long one.

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01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Robert, retired web developer, says, regarding the woman who called

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01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 1: into your show, who asked for advice and how to

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01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: monetize her idea for an app. Instead of creating a video,

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01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: I would have suggested a catchy name for your app,

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01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: register that domain typically twenty bucks a year, host that

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01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: domain six a month, six bucks a month. Well, and

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01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 1: then use a website builder to create a website, kind

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01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: of a live website with placeholders to show people how

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01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,879
Speaker 1: the app would function. And then as time becomes available,

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01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,560
Speaker 1: she can build out the website more and more and

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01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: higher a web designer as necessary. Okay, that's interesting, but

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01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 1: most people, he says, do not know how to find

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01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: a VC. Even if they did, a VC would not

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01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: want to talk to them. Yeah, that's interesting advice, I guess.

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01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's one way. And then a lot of

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01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: people wrote in about this whole two point four gigahertz

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Speaker 1: versus five gigahertz stuff and gets a little complicated. But

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Speaker 1: one person said a Lynksys MR nine thousand router worked

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Speaker 1: well and they were able to split the signal and

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Speaker 1: give each a separate name, So if you want to

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Speaker 1: do that. And finally, oh, Mario said rich, I just

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Speaker 1: wanted you to suggest resist ever calling yourself dumb and

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Speaker 1: don't refer yourself as dumb. I guess I called myself.

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Speaker 1: I said I felt dumb. I don't what it was about,

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Speaker 1: but I did say I felt dumb.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for this episode of

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Speaker 2: the show. You can find me on social media at

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Speaker 2: rich on tech, my website richon tech dot tv.

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Speaker 1: Go there to watch my TV segments. My name is

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Speaker 1: rich Merrol. Thanks so much for listening. There are so

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Speaker 1: many ways you can spend your time. I do appreciate

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Speaker 1: you spending it right here with me. I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you real soon.