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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: you home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williams and it's a Wednesday. But the Steelers did be

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Speaker 1: practice today. I didn't know that they had a team run. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tom and wanted to give some guys who were

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Speaker 1: a little banged ups a chance to get back to

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Speaker 1: the lineup and see where they're at. Um. That would

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Speaker 1: be course at Firemouth. You want to see where he's at. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's he missed last week's game with this.

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Speaker 1: That was the second concussion in a month. Um, So

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Speaker 1: that gets that clock going. Still. It's good, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: still doing physically, don't get out and do some physical activity,

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Speaker 1: little team bonding, you know kind of thing. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: of course, folks, they did all their meetings and all that,

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Speaker 1: right they Yeah, today was their film breakdown day of

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Speaker 1: of everything that happened, happened that was bad at the

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Speaker 1: other day and um, you know, and and so they

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Speaker 1: did that. Uh. They could also get Kevin Dotson back

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Speaker 1: this week. Before we go there, I just want to

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Speaker 1: get your quick thoughts on this. I'm sure half of

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Speaker 1: the people listening are going they're terrible. They need to

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Speaker 1: practice double not cut it in half. You know, back

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Speaker 1: when I was in you know, we were gone three days.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't see it that way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and this more than anything, I trust Tom Win as

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Speaker 1: much as any coach in the league of how to

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Speaker 1: handle the team, how to get them. You get an

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Speaker 1: extra coming up this, you know, after this one. These

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Speaker 1: guys are in fact trade Trade Turner spoke today, as

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Speaker 1: did Joe Hayden, and somebody asked the trade turner, you

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Speaker 1: know how he felt right now. Of course he's coming

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Speaker 1: back off an injuries. Well he heard his knee a

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Speaker 1: little bit and he said, I feel like it's week seventeen.

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Speaker 1: It's week seventeen. Usually the news the face line and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I veterans that have been on around the block. Let

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Speaker 1: on the Rooks. I mean, the Rooks never remember had

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Speaker 1: anything close to this, but getting Dotson back. Matt Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, if if you look at the Steelers slump

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Speaker 1: or whatever you wanna call it, they've lost four their

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Speaker 1: four their six last U lost four their last six games.

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Speaker 1: That coincides with thoughts and going out of the lineup, right,

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Speaker 1: Maybe not a coincidence, Maybe not a coincidence. So I

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Speaker 1: looked up the yardage UH in sacks allowed with Dotson

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Speaker 1: without Dotson, So in six games without dots and the

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Speaker 1: Steelers have averaged seventy seven rushing yards per game. They

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Speaker 1: allowed seventeen sacks in those six games. In the nine

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Speaker 1: games that they've had Kevin Dotson in the lineup, UH,

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Speaker 1: it is eighteen sacks allowed and they've averaged nine point

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Speaker 1: seven rushing yards per game. And if you remember, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a hundred yard rushing game in their first

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Speaker 1: five games, okay, and then they put a string together

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Speaker 1: five straight hundred yard rushing games going into that the

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Speaker 1: Troy game. He got hurt into the Troy game, so

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Speaker 1: they were That's when we were talking about the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Seemed like it was kind of getting his footing. It was.

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Speaker 1: I still believe that it didn't follow through and end

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Speaker 1: up being great after the fact, but it was getting

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Speaker 1: better at that point of the season, There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: about that. And then he went out of the lineup

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Speaker 1: and everything kind of fell part of a little bit

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Speaker 1: again because your shoff, it wasn't like, okay, they just

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Speaker 1: the abusing five different guys. There, four different guys in

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Speaker 1: that spot, like it turned into a rotation because guys

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Speaker 1: kept getting hurt, you know. And in the last three

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Speaker 1: games it's been John Leglue, who you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: But he started the last three games. Yeah, that's not ideal.

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Speaker 1: Not he drew it up back between two rookies, between

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Speaker 1: two the left side. Nobody was helping him out to

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Speaker 1: the left side of the line is incredibly inexperienced, yes,

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Speaker 1: and average talent if you can combine the three of

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Speaker 1: there is. I'm not suggesting he's John Hannah or you

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Speaker 1: clearly their most valuable offensive lineman now for game day

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Speaker 1: as well as going forward. You know, like who's the

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Speaker 1: definitely him. So again, I mean most lines best linemen

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Speaker 1: take the best lineman out and you're just having massive

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Speaker 1: continuity issues. That's doubles your problem because enough problems as

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Speaker 1: it is. And I wonder how much of Kendrick Greene's

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Speaker 1: that continuity that you're building and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: there's a different guy next to every game. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: and why Banner is not in and I mean Banner

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Speaker 1: doesn't even play guard. Yeah, I know, I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: about continuity in the line. Well, he hasn't. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: the COVID list like he's just no, there's no there's

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Speaker 1: no reliability availability really right, no, But I think it's clear.

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Speaker 1: they've been about the most continuity of any line in

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Speaker 1: the league, you know. And some of that was just

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Speaker 1: because Munchak was so great at developing the Finnis and

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Speaker 1: guys great, but they really value playing the same five

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Speaker 1: put someone else in. They're always gonna lean towards let's

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, you know, if they do get him back

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Speaker 1: go back out and start running the ball effectively, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, not that they I mean they ran the ball, Okay, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Two of the last three games. They had a hundred

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Speaker 1: was like it was like eight carries for thirty six yards.

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Speaker 1: to mention. I mean, I think fourth and one you

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Speaker 1: like that. You don't help him in protection. You know,

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Speaker 1: without questions, I mean, it's pretty simple. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: it goes. Just for for reminder's sake and those first

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Speaker 1: One as the lines, and it's the game that you

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Speaker 1: they've remember us talking after the Packer game and when

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Speaker 1: been some criticism of Naja Harris um well, he lacks vision,

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Speaker 1: he's he's not hitting the hole most quickly. That kind

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Speaker 1: very in favor of the Harris Pick I still am.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a foundational player. We talked about leadership

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Speaker 1: no room if you put him behind Cleveland's offensive line

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Speaker 1: And it's also the rookie wall thing with considering his

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Speaker 1: say is I'm not convinced he's ever going to be explosive.

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Speaker 1: that way. But he's a grinder, you know. He's he's

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Speaker 1: like Levi on Bell and that sustain or a grinder,

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Speaker 1: in the season, even in the preseason, he always fell forward,

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Speaker 1: always fell forward, and even now he largely a falls forward.

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's a grind. I mean, and you know

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Speaker 1: there's no fans or buts about the game against the Titans.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think he does fall forward typically,

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Speaker 1: you know, but he's not getting any help up front, no, none.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, he's such a tough eval right now

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Speaker 1: because my concern is what I didn't have a concern

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Speaker 1: coming out of Obama is unlike Bell, when Bell would

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Speaker 1: it was an explosive human being move. And Harris is powerful,

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Speaker 1: he's fast, he's agile. But explosive might not be the

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Speaker 1: in camp next year ago, how he looks explosive, drops

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Speaker 1: of hard. I don't blame him at all for the

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Speaker 1: I'm not sold. He's what I thought he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: gonna get the argument once again in the off season, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, with what the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: me is don't give him the big deal, move go

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Somebody, you know, somebody that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, here's another one to throw

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Speaker 1: what the Patriots would be much worse with Mills right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking here at Davis Mills stats. I'm

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Speaker 1: And it's not like he's been He's had a couple

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Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that also now goes into

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Speaker 1: of that. That's very possible, And a big reason he

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Speaker 1: And but I'm not implying, boy, they shouldn't have taken

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Speaker 1: sit there Arreus Leonard argument. Nobody had a first round

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Speaker 1: should have taken Darius Leonard. He was a second round guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's talking two years after the draft that you pick

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Speaker 1: take a T. J. Watt to right. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: every seven teams passed on him. And you can't be

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Speaker 1: what because no one thought he was gonna be a

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Speaker 1: take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll continue this conversation down the

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Speaker 1: rabbit hole here as we spend some time. Well maybe

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Speaker 1: we're getting a little Brown's talk in the next second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to do some of that. Let's do that

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