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Speaker 2: Man ever since I've been retired. The truth is I've
Speaker 2: been staying busy. I'm working on becoming a multi sport athlete.
Speaker 2: Any day, anytime. I'm the amateur best in the world.
Speaker 2: I've even become a Papa shot king. I gotta stay
Speaker 2: competitive for the kids.
Speaker 3: I'm not stoppable ball mag Come on now, who won't smoke?
Speaker 3: I've been staying in shake.
Speaker 2: And with everything I got going on, I've been really
Speaker 2: trying to stay on top of my social media game. Wait,
Speaker 2: am alive?
Speaker 3: Didn't mean to do that again.
Speaker 2: You know I love the grill and I'll become a
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Speaker 3: Man, what's next?
Speaker 2: You know what?
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bullyball, presented by DraftKings. I'm Rachel Nichols. That
Speaker 1: is always as to Marcus Cousins. And look who we
Speaker 1: got in the building today. A mean l hass and
Speaker 1: welcome my friend.
Speaker 4: I'm still alive. My voice is a little shot, but
Speaker 4: I'm still alive.
Speaker 1: Well, all three of us were in India this weekend,
Speaker 1: so we're all a little worse for wear. Everybody everyone
Speaker 1: kind of some slack here today. I do want to
Speaker 1: start with All Star weekend. Some good things. Look, let's
Speaker 1: talk about Stephan Sabrina for just a second. This was organic.
Speaker 1: It felt amazing. The moment was incredible. I was lucky
Speaker 1: enough to be in the building so I didn't have
Speaker 1: to hear Kenny Smith ruined the moment on top of
Speaker 1: what was going on, which was great. I thought it
Speaker 1: was phenomenal that they both put themselves out there like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know most of the other players in
Speaker 1: that building would not have done that, frankly, and the
Speaker 1: fact they're already talking about next year maybe bringing in
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark and Klay Thompson in and making it a
Speaker 1: double thing or something like that, I thought it was incredible.
Speaker 1: We love that, right, book, I do, man.
Speaker 5: I think that was an incredible, you know deal. Definitely
Speaker 5: the highlight of the weekend, which is kind of a
Speaker 5: good thing and bad thing to be said, but like
Speaker 5: I said, I think that was a really dope thing.
Speaker 5: It definitely added some excitement to the weekend. It was something,
Speaker 5: it was something different that we hadn't seen before. And obviously,
Speaker 5: I think when it comes to fixing that issue of
Speaker 5: you know, actually making the weekend competitive, yeah, bring in
Speaker 5: the girl and give her a chance to kick your
Speaker 5: ass and we gonna definitely see guys come out there
Speaker 5: and compete, and that's what we got to see. So
Speaker 5: hopefully we might have to start adding some females to
Speaker 5: the mix in general, just to excite, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: put a little more energy into too the weekend.
Speaker 1: So if you want to improve something, bring a woman in.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Go ahead me No.
Speaker 4: At this point, I'm excited about any star that wants
Speaker 4: to come and play hard. You're a star, you want
Speaker 4: to play hard, that's it is sold. You come right
Speaker 4: away because we'll get to it. But we need to
Speaker 4: get some of these guys out.
Speaker 1: Of here, all right, We'll get to it. Get to it.
Speaker 1: So what are you your problems? Besides the weather? I mean,
Speaker 1: went on a weekend long Twitter die trib about the weather.
Speaker 1: But besides the weather, what do you want to get
Speaker 1: to about what's wrong with All Star Weekend.
Speaker 4: That's a conversation I'll have with the commissioner directly. But
Speaker 4: as far as the All Star Weekend and imost, I'm
Speaker 4: going to start with Sunday because Sunday is the biggest problem.
Speaker 4: We had a game where we had three total fouls.
Speaker 4: If you added up every foul by every person.
Speaker 3: And gave it a one.
Speaker 4: Dude, he still wouldn't be in foul trouble even in
Speaker 4: the first half of a game. Right, Three total fouls,
Speaker 4: three total shot box guys openly walking through the motions,
Speaker 4: Guys telling you in their comments to the media, I
Speaker 4: don't care, it's not important, it's not a big deal.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, look, people, I hate when people say, oh,
Speaker 4: the eighties in the night. You don't have to go
Speaker 4: that far back, DeMarcus. When you played in the All
Speaker 4: Star Game, y'all played hard. Kobe Duwayne Wade, Carmelo, Anthony Lebron.
Speaker 6: All of these guys played hard in an.
Speaker 4: All Star game. They put on a show. Did they
Speaker 4: die for loose balls and have flagrant fouls?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: But you didn't also just say, all right, go ahead,
Speaker 4: just lay it up. Okay, I'm gonna throw a full
Speaker 4: court he gonna lay it up over there. And the
Speaker 4: problem with all of these guys is they don't understand
Speaker 4: that it's messing with the money. It's not about paying
Speaker 4: them extra money. It's about, Hey, TNT pays a lot
Speaker 4: of money for this thing, and we're up against a
Speaker 4: new media deal, and that money feeds br which feeds
Speaker 4: the salary cap, which feeds what the max salaries are.
Speaker 4: So if TNT or whoever gets the rights next year
Speaker 4: to say I don't want to do this anymore, well,
Speaker 4: I don't want to pay that much. That affects everybody,
Speaker 4: brings the money down, So I just don't work.
Speaker 1: So far from that happening. I mean, that's the problem
Speaker 1: is there's not a connection there because you know, the
Speaker 1: next media deal, the money is going to go up.
Speaker 1: It's going to go up. Whether it goes up, yes,
Speaker 1: it's going to go I'm willing to sit here and
Speaker 1: say that they will make more money from the next
Speaker 1: media right steel than they did from the last one.
Speaker 1: And like until that connection actually gets made, Like I
Speaker 1: don't see that. I don't see that, Hey, it's going
Speaker 1: to mess with our money. I don't see that actually
Speaker 1: sinking in. Why would it. It's not messing with anyone's money.
Speaker 6: Is there my fault? Book?
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, because you're a name that
Speaker 4: I brought up in this way. Is there a way
Speaker 4: we get like recently retired players and people from the
Speaker 4: Players Association to convince guys to hey man, this is serious.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's the problem right there. As a competitor,
Speaker 5: you know, as an All Star, all of these things
Speaker 5: come with a responsibility. So and that responsibility is to
Speaker 5: go out there and compete, like simple as that. So
Speaker 5: the fact that you have to be convinced that's a
Speaker 5: problem like that doesn't make sense. This is your job.
Speaker 5: This is what you do on an everyday basis. This
Speaker 5: is your occupation. So when you clock into your occupation,
Speaker 5: you should be a professional about it.
Speaker 3: And that's just going out there, playing harder, competing.
Speaker 5: Like you said, it shouldn't be guys out there diving
Speaker 5: on the floor and things that and that just because
Speaker 5: nobody wants to get hurt in a game.
Speaker 3: That really doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: But it does matter to these fans, it does matter
Speaker 5: to the league, It does matter for everybody else that's
Speaker 5: coming behind us.
Speaker 3: It does matter.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, everybody wants to leave with
Speaker 5: their health and all of that. So obviously you want
Speaker 5: to create some type of a balance. But just as
Speaker 5: far as putting on a good show, just being competing
Speaker 5: at some type of a level, give me more than
Speaker 5: sixty percent, you know what I mean. I feel like
Speaker 5: that's our responsibility. So the fact that you're asking, can
Speaker 5: we convince them that's the issue right there, Like it
Speaker 5: shouldn't even have to come to that.
Speaker 1: It's not like people didn't try. Right going into this game,
Speaker 1: Adam Silver talked about how it was going to be
Speaker 1: more competitive. Joe Dumars go and talk to several of
Speaker 1: the players about how important it was to the league
Speaker 1: and to the TV rights and everything else for us
Speaker 1: to be competitive. Guys told me they were talking on
Speaker 1: the bench that, like Trey Young said that he and
Speaker 1: Donnam Mitchell we're talking on the bench afterward about how
Speaker 1: it could be more competitive, and yet it's not actually happening.
Speaker 1: And there's you know, some people have come up with
Speaker 1: with tweaks, right. Bill Simmons came out and said that,
Speaker 1: you know, we shouldn't have a three point line in
Speaker 1: the All Star contest, just to get everybody back to
Speaker 1: sort of you know, play and playing more competitive ball.
Speaker 1: Because it's true. I had guys say to me afterward,
Speaker 1: Like Paul George said to me afterward, He's like, look,
Speaker 1: we're not playing foll We're not picking guys up from
Speaker 1: ninety feet and Dame's hitting these shots from from half
Speaker 1: court and what are you supposed to do to defend
Speaker 1: that in an All Star Game. I get that, and
Speaker 1: the skill level there is super high. But yes, the
Speaker 1: idea of maybe removing the three point line, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, my little tweak like that would be like,
Speaker 1: let's require all first year All Stars to be in
Speaker 1: the dunk contest. If it's your first year in the
Speaker 1: All Star Game, you have to be in the dunk contest.
Speaker 1: And I understand that dunkin's hard on the body, but
Speaker 1: these are younger going to be younger players with that rule,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. That's my crazy rule I do.
Speaker 1: The biggest issue though, is priorities. This is where the
Speaker 1: NBA has to decide what is most important to them
Speaker 1: because being an All Star weekend, what appears to be
Speaker 1: most important is sponsorship opportunities. Right, it's the sponsors. It
Speaker 1: is a weekend that the league has turned into for
Speaker 1: the sponsors to have great tickets to the game. The
Speaker 1: sponsors have these players running around and doing ten obligations
Speaker 1: over a twenty four hour period. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 1: too tired to play basketball. I don't buy that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that it is message to them over and
Speaker 1: over through the weekend that the game is an afterthought.
Speaker 1: It's literally the last thing out of fifteen things that
Speaker 1: they are being asked to do. If you are deciding
Speaker 1: that sponsors are the most important part of the weekend,
Speaker 1: the building is going to be absolutely dead like it
Speaker 1: was on Sunday. People are not going to give players
Speaker 1: and yell at them and give them a hard Can
Speaker 1: you imagine if a Rocker Park crowd was in there
Speaker 1: and guys didn't bother defending. Can you imagine how the
Speaker 1: fans would get on these players and embarrass them and
Speaker 1: make them want to compete harder, of course, but instead.
Speaker 7: It was just I mean, there is a point I
Speaker 7: looked at at the lower bowl in the first half
Speaker 7: and there was maybe a quarter of the seats for empty,
Speaker 7: and you're looking at that being like, okay, again, it's
Speaker 7: up to the players to play.
Speaker 1: I am not shifting responsibility. I am just saying that
Speaker 1: you create an environment that feels bigger or smaller, and
Speaker 1: it feels smaller with all these sponsors. And it comes
Speaker 1: back to again priorities. It's like the sixty five game
Speaker 1: rule and how do we get load management to stop?
Speaker 1: The priority for each owner is winning a championship, which
Speaker 1: is fair, which is fine, But that is the reason
Speaker 1: why owners complain in the boardroom about load management the
Speaker 1: TV deal and then tell their own teams, hey, it's
Speaker 1: okay if you load manage because I want my guys
Speaker 1: fresh for the playoffs. You have to decide what's most important.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the league as a whole, from
Speaker 1: players to the league office to the sponsors on down,
Speaker 1: has put a competitive All Star game is their actual
Speaker 1: highest priority. All these other things are taking a front seat.
Speaker 3: Damn, you hit it on the head right. You hit
Speaker 3: it on the head right.
Speaker 1: You just have to decide what's most important.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 5: And we've spoken on this briefly before where it's also
Speaker 5: where we do have to create a balance for these
Speaker 5: All Star guys, and hey, hey, if it comes to
Speaker 5: a situation to where you know, we don't want the
Speaker 5: All Stars to have to do all the because at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, this is a business. We
Speaker 5: do need these All Stars and superstar players and NBA
Speaker 5: guys in general.
Speaker 3: We need them to network and push these sponsors. We
Speaker 3: need all of that.
Speaker 5: Like all of this matters, but in this case, it
Speaker 5: has to be some type of a balance to where
Speaker 5: these all Stars can get the rest that's necessary. Maybe
Speaker 5: it's an idea where we bring in other NBA guys
Speaker 5: that didn't make All Star or a borderline All Star,
Speaker 5: and they're the ones that's connecting throughout the weekend, networking
Speaker 5: with these sponsors, and we do get these All Stars
Speaker 5: the opportunity to get some rest. Or maybe it's cutting
Speaker 5: half to where it's a little bit of the All Stars,
Speaker 5: a little bit of the guys that were borderline, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So it has to has to
Speaker 5: be some type of a balance in order to get
Speaker 5: the perfect, you know, solution at the end.
Speaker 3: It is so I agree with you one hundred percent, Rachel.
Speaker 6: It's there's you know, economics.
Speaker 3: There's a way to handle this.
Speaker 4: If I have If I'm selling one hundred tickets for
Speaker 4: five dollars a pop, they sell out real quick, right,
Speaker 4: So what do I do. I raise the price to
Speaker 4: the point where like, okay, now people are waiting and seeing.
Speaker 6: So it's the same thing here.
Speaker 4: If there are so many sponsors and they're all willing
Speaker 4: and they all want All Stars there, then it's on
Speaker 4: the league to raise the price for those sponsors you
Speaker 4: want to you want to get Kawhi Leonard in here
Speaker 4: is going to cost this much versus some of the
Speaker 4: younger All Stars will cost this much. But Rachel and Boogie,
Speaker 4: I want to I want to put a spotlight on
Speaker 4: someone else who has some control in this situation that
Speaker 4: we haven't talked about, and it's the coaches, because in
Speaker 4: every one of these disappointing All Star games, there are
Speaker 4: players that do take it seriously and at least give
Speaker 4: some effort.
Speaker 6: I thought Damian Lillard did, Danna Sano did down clearly,
Speaker 6: Devin Booker right.
Speaker 4: So what I want to see from the coaches is, hey,
Speaker 4: I know Luca was a starter. If he's doing that,
Speaker 4: sit his ass down, put book in the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: Your rival is going to be playing your minutes, and
Speaker 4: you gotta sit your ass down here and play eight
Speaker 4: or nine minutes for the game. And let's see if
Speaker 4: you like All Start Weekend as much and if not,
Speaker 4: don't be an All Star. I mean this as someone
Speaker 4: who loves Luka Doncic's game. I think he's incredible. I
Speaker 4: think it's only a matter of time before he becomes
Speaker 4: an MVP and a champion in this league. But what
Speaker 4: he did on Sunday night, Doug, I don't want that.
Speaker 4: If that's how you're gonna be, just sit down, it's cool.
Speaker 4: You don't want to play, Just don't play. Play the
Speaker 4: guys who want to play. And I think the coaches
Speaker 4: have some responsibility in that. In that regard, I agree
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 1: No, no doubt. And by the way, all this concern
Speaker 1: about injuries, I do want to say this, and you
Speaker 1: had a lot of guys after say well, hey, at
Speaker 1: least no one got hurt. We wouldn't want anyone to
Speaker 1: get hurt. You guys, I mean, maybe you have better
Speaker 1: memories than me. The only injury significant in an All
Speaker 1: Star Game I can remember, and obviously I don't go
Speaker 1: back more than you know twenty five years here is
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade broke Kobe's nose, right, and that's the only
Speaker 1: one I can remember. And like that wasn't something that
Speaker 1: hampered Kobe for the rest of the calendar. Gear I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think that the fear
Speaker 1: of being injured in All Star Game is a little
Speaker 1: overwrought to the point where it's kind of an excuse
Speaker 1: for everything, and look, we had a guy at the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl who got injured walking on the field, so
Speaker 1: there's always going to be some fluke stuff somewhere. But
Speaker 1: I think that's an overwrought concern as well. I do
Speaker 1: want to move on. You mentioned the coaches. You mentioned
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard dame owned All Star. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: he won MVP, he won the three point Contest, he
Speaker 1: had a great outing. Doc Rivers. I don't know. He
Speaker 1: hasn't had that many wins with the Bucks, but he
Speaker 1: won the All Star Game with the team that was
Speaker 1: considered the less stacked team. Still, things not going well
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee fired each well when the Bucks fired Adrian Griffin. Guys,
Speaker 1: I just want to remind you of the numbers that
Speaker 1: Griff have put together a thirty and thirteen start to
Speaker 1: the season. They are now three and seven in their
Speaker 1: first ten games under Doc. There's been a lot of
Speaker 1: criticism of Doc Rivers, both you know, online but also
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in a lot of player circles
Speaker 1: and a lot of sort of behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of well what did you expect?
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. I did speak to Doc at All
Speaker 1: Star and I want you, guys, to listen to what
Speaker 1: he told me about. It wasn't just the Bucks who
Speaker 1: wanted him. Guys, so Milwaukee's getting getting criticism right now,
Speaker 1: But he said this, I.
Speaker 8: Had committed to taking a year off. I had two
Speaker 8: other teams that had already called doing the season, and
Speaker 8: we wouldn't even take the interview. And you know, this
Speaker 8: one came about, and I thought that, you know, just
Speaker 8: the fact that it was the teams you know from
Speaker 8: where I went to school at and the type of team,
Speaker 8: the starter, like this is the all star starter.
Speaker 4: We just did forty minutes.
Speaker 8: I told all the guys that we have to beat
Speaker 8: and I'm playing them all forty minutes in the game
Speaker 8: of borrow.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was just it was a lot. And yeah,
Speaker 8: it was like I was joking. They put me on
Speaker 8: a clock. It's not like I had a week to decide.
Speaker 8: So it was a tough one.
Speaker 1: Can I ask who the other two teams were?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, try, it was good.
Speaker 3: That was a good try.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so two teams want to go, So Bookie,
Speaker 4: we got to guess.
Speaker 6: We gotta do some some guesswork here. You won't go first?
Speaker 6: Or should I go first?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: You go ahead, you go first, all right, I'm guessing
Speaker 4: the guy that just got fired would be one of them.
Speaker 4: So I would say Brooklyn would be one of those
Speaker 4: situations where they hit up Doc and said, what do
Speaker 4: you think?
Speaker 5: Okay, I agree, I can see that scenario. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say the Lakers.
Speaker 1: It's been speculation since he said I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Say the Lakers for sure.
Speaker 5: I don't think aud and prying around, and you know,
Speaker 5: they kind of they kind of get off on knowing
Speaker 5: that they did things under the radar, like you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, So they liked the element of surprise.
Speaker 3: So I can definitely see the Lakers being that other team.
Speaker 1: Well, the Bucks are the ones who got him. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you how it's going. They lost right
Speaker 1: before the break to a Memphis team. This was the
Speaker 1: game they had before the All Star break. Memphis was
Speaker 1: starting starting two guys on ten day contracts starting, and
Speaker 1: by the way, I think one of them had just
Speaker 1: gotten there like two days earlier, so like not even
Speaker 1: like guys on like multiple back to back ten days
Speaker 1: who had you know, been in with the system or anything.
Speaker 1: Started two players who are on ten days. Jannis afterward
Speaker 1: had a lot to say. Here was his quote. He said,
Speaker 1: we have to want it. Man, Enough with the talking,
Speaker 1: enough with the our shit don't stink mentality. Do we
Speaker 1: really want it? Are we putting in the work? And
Speaker 1: then he said, guys are tired. That's an excuse, new coach,
Speaker 1: that's an excuse, the system, excuse, new defense, excuse, he
Speaker 1: goes all of it, excuse. So, but what is your
Speaker 1: worry level for the Bucks right now they're sitting in
Speaker 1: third in the East.
Speaker 5: It definitely should be, you know, some concern, nothing nothing severe,
Speaker 5: because these are all very fixable, you know problems. I
Speaker 5: agree with Janni's like, at some point the players have
Speaker 5: to you know, self reflect and look at themselves.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: The coach isn't playing the game. Uh, the players are. Uh,
Speaker 5: it's no excuse. You can't blame the coach. You can't
Speaker 5: blame the system, you can't blame it. This is a
Speaker 5: team with two guys on ten day contracts, and not
Speaker 5: to ever knock any you know guy at this level
Speaker 5: with their abilities, but we're talking about a team that's.
Speaker 1: Starting starting, yes, talking.
Speaker 5: About five NBA starters to all stars against a team
Speaker 5: that's just trying to stay afloat and hopefully sell some
Speaker 5: tickets and get their star player back next year. Like,
Speaker 5: it's two different scenarios, So it's no excuse to ever
Speaker 5: drop games like that. It does happen, but in their
Speaker 5: situation where they're trying to write this ship right before
Speaker 5: the playoffs, it's no excuse for that. There's got to
Speaker 5: be a lot more urgency with this team. You kind
Speaker 5: of watch them and you know, outside of Dame and
Speaker 5: Janni's being the stars that they are, like, you could
Speaker 5: just see the problems within that the chemistry isn't quite there.
Speaker 5: You can tell that some guys don't really enjoy playing
Speaker 5: one another. You could tell that guys aren't happy for
Speaker 5: the next guy. We've seen a few clips from Big
Speaker 5: feather Brook Lopez where he's kind of, you know, giving
Speaker 5: Dame some grief about shot selection and things of that nature.
Speaker 5: Those all signs that this team isn't together, that there
Speaker 5: isn't camaraderie and they're not all on the same page.
Speaker 5: But like I said, these are things that are fixable.
Speaker 5: You can't continue to blame the coach for even though
Speaker 5: his shit stinks too. But this is on the players
Speaker 5: to get correct, like effort, you know, energy and playing
Speaker 5: where urgency doesn't come from the coach. That comes from
Speaker 5: the players. Players set that standard. That's something you have
Speaker 5: to come out and do every single night. Players set
Speaker 5: that standard, not the coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you know, first of all, I
Speaker 4: keep thinking about the guy who signed a ten day
Speaker 4: two days earlier.
Speaker 6: Was what plays was he running?
Speaker 4: He's just floppy and horns right every time now because
Speaker 4: he can't even he can't tell me you knew the
Speaker 4: play calls At that point, I think there's there's on
Speaker 4: both sides.
Speaker 6: Like Boogie said, On the.
Speaker 4: One hand, no disrespect to young guys or ten day
Speaker 4: guys or whatever, but you got two All Stars and
Speaker 4: a guy who finished second or third Defensive Player of
Speaker 4: the Year voting last year. You got enough to win
Speaker 4: against a team that's going straight to secaucas for the
Speaker 4: lottery machine.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, this game, I'll be honest, fans
Speaker 4: don't understand the need for structure.
Speaker 6: We're never just rolling the ball out and playing pick.
Speaker 6: There's structure.
Speaker 4: There's got to be systems, how we know how we're defending,
Speaker 4: who's helping who, Where am I supposed to be when
Speaker 4: the ball's over there versus when it's over here, right,
Speaker 4: and then offensively a hierarchy.
Speaker 6: And getting guys going.
Speaker 4: And I think one of the biggest things we've all
Speaker 4: noticed about the Bucks is you have a great finisher
Speaker 4: in Giannie, you got a great perimeter player in Dame.
Speaker 6: Why do they never have any action together? Why is
Speaker 6: it like they're running two different things separate from one another.
Speaker 6: And I think that comes down to you got to
Speaker 6: have a system and a playbook in place.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be complicated, it doesn't have to
Speaker 4: be the old Flip Saunders encyclopedia where it's like a
Speaker 4: thousand pages, but you got to have something so that
Speaker 4: when we go out there, the guys know, hey, this
Speaker 4: is what we're doing. Our first option out of this
Speaker 4: is this, Our second option is this, our third option
Speaker 4: is this, And if that fails, then Dame makes something happen,
Speaker 4: or Gianni's makes of that happened. It feels like they
Speaker 4: get to that fourth emergency object a lot faster than
Speaker 4: they should.
Speaker 1: Well we'll see. I mean, look, one of the things
Speaker 1: Doc said about coaching in the All Star Game is
Speaker 1: you know he was I will give him credit. He
Speaker 1: has said over and over and over again, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is Griff's award. I don't see why I'm here. This
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. They should have given it to someone else.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that he kept saying that, and he
Speaker 1: said he wanted to use the week. Well, he said
Speaker 1: he wants to use the week to play golf, but
Speaker 1: also to be able to sort of, you know, look
Speaker 1: at the team. You know, he came into the job
Speaker 1: running and that he wanted to be able to sit
Speaker 1: down and take the week and look at the team
Speaker 1: and kind of come up with some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he will still do that too. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he will also still play golf. But it does
Speaker 1: beg the larger question of, you know, what mobility is
Speaker 1: there in the East. We have already seen, right Cleveland
Speaker 1: come up to that number two spot in the East.
Speaker 1: Take you know, Milwaukee was was really wedged in there,
Speaker 1: but now Cleveland has come up in there. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Sixers also clearly have lost seven of
Speaker 1: ten going into the break because of the beat injury,
Speaker 1: and they are definitely trying to make a go of
Speaker 1: it and be competitive until he gets back, if and
Speaker 1: when he can come back, but they're not the team
Speaker 1: that they were, So there is mobility in that Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: I want to know who you guys think We've got
Speaker 1: about a third of this season to go. Who do
Speaker 1: you guys think is in the position in the Eastern
Speaker 1: Conference to climb into the standings. With Milwaukee not quite
Speaker 1: sure who they are and the Sixers obviously having the
Speaker 1: injury problems they've.
Speaker 5: Had, I mean, the team that sticks out to me
Speaker 5: just right off top is the Miami Heat. We know
Speaker 5: for a fact that they're a second half team. They've
Speaker 5: shown They've shown these patterns over and over again. This
Speaker 5: is usually the time of year with Jimmy Butler starts
Speaker 5: to we start seeing the big games from Jimmy. He
Speaker 5: is going through you know, his personal family issues right now,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure once he's passed that he gets back
Speaker 5: to this, gets back to basketball. You know, he'll be
Speaker 5: locked in, ready to finish out the season that we're
Speaker 5: accustomed to see seeing from him. So the Miami Heat
Speaker 5: stick out right away from me on top. With the
Speaker 5: addition of you know, Terry Rozier, who hasn't quite found
Speaker 5: his rhythm with this team yet, but I think he
Speaker 5: was the perfect piece to go along with this team.
Speaker 5: So we can see this team, you know, make some
Speaker 5: noise in the second half and definitely move up the rankings.
Speaker 1: Well that Rosier, I mean, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with his injury. They says spring me. It's
Speaker 1: week to week. I don't know. I mean, if he's
Speaker 1: out for a long time, obviously that's going to be
Speaker 1: an issue. But I agree. I mean, they're a potential
Speaker 1: mover for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the beauty of Indiana me of Miami, is
Speaker 4: that they have a next man up mentality, and so
Speaker 4: there are guys that are not like unaccustomed to being
Speaker 4: called upon it. Now, Okay, now you're playing major minutes.
Speaker 4: They're ready and they they've got enough there to keep
Speaker 4: it going until they can get everyone healthy. But as
Speaker 4: you can probably tell, the other team I was going
Speaker 4: to say, is Indiana, and I think you know something.
Speaker 6: They did a really big move by getting.
Speaker 4: Pascal Siakam in there, but it just coincided with Tyre's
Speaker 4: Halliburton getting hurt, and so they weren't really quite all
Speaker 4: healthy and all together all at the same time for
Speaker 4: an extending amount of time. Even when Halliburton came back,
Speaker 4: he's on a minute restriction and all that. Now, if
Speaker 4: you had a little bit of a break, he's going
Speaker 4: to be one hundred percent. I'm excited to see what
Speaker 4: the Indiana Pacers can do with a full strength roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think there's some of that
Speaker 1: stuffs up for grabs, and seating in the East is
Speaker 1: going to be important. I know the East doesn't look
Speaker 1: as stacked as the West in terms of maybe how
Speaker 1: much of a thicket and competitive going through the early
Speaker 1: rounds of the playoffs are going to be. But what
Speaker 1: seating you get is definitely going to be a factor
Speaker 1: in the East because you don't want to face some
Speaker 1: of those teams at the bottom, and you know, if
Speaker 1: you only have to go through one of them to
Speaker 1: get to the one of the other big sort of
Speaker 1: boys on the block to get through the conference finals,
Speaker 1: I think that will make a big difference. I want
Speaker 1: to look at the West too, though, because guys, the
Speaker 1: West is insane. I mean, we have had guys bunched,
Speaker 1: teams bunched, you know, in the top four have basically
Speaker 1: been been trading places for a while and completely you know,
Speaker 1: half a game, a point point point oh of a game,
Speaker 1: you know, different from each other, and then at the
Speaker 1: bottom too. The Mavericks, who I think were even out
Speaker 1: of the playing at one point or at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the play in are now the seventh seed. They've
Speaker 1: won sixth straight going into All Star. They have the
Speaker 1: tenth easiest strength of schedule going forward. The Warriors eight
Speaker 1: of ten that they won going into All Star and
Speaker 1: had like a weird loss in there too where Klay
Speaker 1: Thompson kind of has had a brain freeze, so that
Speaker 1: easily could have been nine out of ten. Los Angeles
Speaker 1: the Lakers have won six out of seven going into
Speaker 1: All Stars. So like, you've got you've got teams on
Speaker 1: the come up and they're getting squeaked. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: so much going on in there. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, what's your look going into this?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I feel bad for Minnesota and
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City, two young teams that are have been playing
Speaker 4: great all year long, and their reward is you're gonna
Speaker 4: have to play one are these teams that comes out
Speaker 4: of the play and that's not going to be your
Speaker 4: typical seven or eight seed I'm going to go against.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go against with the mat, the mat
Speaker 4: says the Warriors have the easiest scheduled remaining strength to schedule,
Speaker 4: and obviously I have a lot of respect for everyone there,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go against math and I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: the Phoenix Suns who have the toughest schedule remaining, but
Speaker 4: I think they're healthy. And then also the addition of
Speaker 4: Royce O'Neil. I thought before they did that deal, they
Speaker 4: had a lot of guys that were masquerading as rotation
Speaker 4: players that weren't really rotation NBA players. These were guys
Speaker 4: that were there and playing because they didn't have a
Speaker 4: whole lot of depth. I think the second half of
Speaker 4: the season, with everyone healthy and you add Royce O'Neill
Speaker 4: as another guy who can come off your bench, you
Speaker 4: can rely on to play some tough defense, to hit
Speaker 4: some three pointers.
Speaker 6: I think that's going to help them.
Speaker 4: So that's the team that see rising the most in
Speaker 4: the second half of the season.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to land with the Mavericks. I think
Speaker 5: they made some really really good moves at the deadline.
Speaker 5: The addition to PJ Washington, the big fella Washington Gaffer.
Speaker 5: I think Gafford is a more experienced version of the
Speaker 5: young guy they having Lively, So I think that was
Speaker 5: a perfect move for them. A lob threat, a guy
Speaker 5: that can protect the rim, get up and down the floor,
Speaker 5: you know, his game. Compliments Luke and Kyrie will and
Speaker 5: to add you know, a stretch forward PJ Washington who
Speaker 5: shoots it at a very high clip, can put the
Speaker 5: ball on the floor a little bit, can make plays,
Speaker 5: you know, for that Dallas offense, and also is another
Speaker 5: compliment piece to Luca and Kyrie. So I think they
Speaker 5: made some brilliant moves at the deadline. I think this
Speaker 5: team will only get better. You know, Kyrie did miss
Speaker 5: some time, so he'll be getting back into the swing
Speaker 5: of things. And I think it's just enough amount of
Speaker 5: time left in the season for this team to really
Speaker 5: find their strive and you know, going to the playoffs
Speaker 5: with some confidence.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna roll with the Mavericks.
Speaker 1: Well, they're on a good role. We had a great
Speaker 1: final kick set up here for some teams. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be some very competitive games in this final part of
Speaker 1: the season. I'm psyched about that. All right, it is
Speaker 1: time for Oh yes, DraftKings, I will take that bet.
Speaker 1: Let's look at the odds for Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Up on the DraftKings Board, go Bear heavy favorite again
Speaker 1: to win the award. This would be his fourth time
Speaker 1: that would tie the great Ben Wallace for the most ever.
Speaker 1: So He's at minus six point fifty. Jared Allen is
Speaker 1: at plus one thousand, Wemby's at plus two thousand. Chet
Speaker 1: is at plus twenty five hundred, So the gap is
Speaker 1: huge there. Wemby, I just want to point this out.
Speaker 1: He's leading the league in blocks, He's fourth and defensive rating.
Speaker 1: So I know Gobert is the heavy favorite. But if
Speaker 1: you want to put down money that will actually get
Speaker 1: you money, I don't know if you go with Wemby.
Speaker 1: The last team with a sub five hundred record to
Speaker 1: have a Defensive Player of the Year was the Spurs.
Speaker 1: That was eighty six with Alvin Robertson. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what, buggy, where would you go? Would you take
Speaker 1: the bet on Wemby or someone else too? Just is
Speaker 1: Gobert and that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm rolling with Wemby. I'm gonna take the bet on Wemby.
Speaker 5: And the reason I said that is, you know, this
Speaker 5: is a young up and common superstar for this league.
Speaker 5: The product is going to be pushed. He's just and
Speaker 5: not to take away from any of his talent, he's
Speaker 5: he's that good of a young player that he's even
Speaker 5: in this conversation as a rookie. Obviously you know the
Speaker 5: company around him and where the where the team is at,
Speaker 5: where the team is at at this point the season
Speaker 5: isn't in favor of him winning, but you can't take
Speaker 5: away the impact that he brings every night. You can't
Speaker 5: take away his abilities, and you know, the way he's
Speaker 5: producing at this young age, like he has to be
Speaker 5: credited for what he's doing. And I would not be
Speaker 5: surprised to see, you know, Rookie of the Year Defensive
Speaker 5: Player of the Year in the same season for Winby.
Speaker 5: I think he's that good. I think I think he's
Speaker 5: that talented. I think he ran away with the Rookie
Speaker 5: of the Year at this you know, at this point
Speaker 5: in the season.
Speaker 3: So it just makes sense for me. It makes sense
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be I wouldn't be a afraid to say
Speaker 5: he wins it this year. So that's my choice.
Speaker 3: Rachel.
Speaker 4: You asking me who I think is gonna win it
Speaker 4: or who I think should win it?
Speaker 1: Because I'm asking you, would you put your money down?
Speaker 1: Would you put your hard earned cash down on anyone
Speaker 1: but Rudy Gobert to win DPOY.
Speaker 4: So if it's me betting my money, it's because I'm
Speaker 4: trying to predict what the voters, of which I am.
Speaker 6: Not one, are going to do.
Speaker 4: And I think they're just going to look at Minnesota
Speaker 4: is the best team, and they've had the best defense
Speaker 4: one and two all year long, and their best defensive
Speaker 4: player is Rudy Gobert, and that's what they're gonna pick.
Speaker 6: Do I agree? No, But I'm not trying to lose
Speaker 6: money and be right. I'd rather rather maake.
Speaker 1: What do you think if you were voting, what would
Speaker 1: you what would vote? Who would you vote for?
Speaker 4: Him? On?
Speaker 6: So and I thought about this a boogie before before
Speaker 6: we started.
Speaker 4: A lot of the names I want to vote for
Speaker 4: are disqualified because the sixty.
Speaker 6: Five game rules. So Joel Embiid was the name. He's out.
Speaker 4: I can't vote for him. Evan Mobley is a guy,
Speaker 4: and then we then to Jared Allen. I think Evan
Speaker 4: Motway has been a bigger force on the defensive end
Speaker 4: for Cleveland than even Jared Allen has been, but again
Speaker 4: he doesn't qualify. So now I'm left with guys that
Speaker 4: I don't know that they're the.
Speaker 6: Best defensive player of the in the league, but I
Speaker 6: do know.
Speaker 4: They make a massive defensive impact, and kind of like
Speaker 4: what we talked about before the show Boogie, I know
Speaker 4: they're gonna be on the floor in clutch times, in
Speaker 4: a playoff situation.
Speaker 6: They will be out there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: So the two guys I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: The two guys I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Derek
Speaker 4: White for the Celtics. I think he does an excellent
Speaker 4: job on the best offensive wing player in the league
Speaker 4: every single night, and he's able to hold his own
Speaker 4: offensively as well, which I'm still kind of amazed at
Speaker 4: what kind of player he's become on the offensive end.
Speaker 6: The other name I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: And obviously they're going to need to win a lot more,
Speaker 4: but they also have an elite defense is Bam out
Speaker 4: of bio. I don't think he gets enough credit for
Speaker 4: being the center of not just the center and position,
Speaker 4: but the center of a defense that makes up for
Speaker 4: a lot of other people's deficiencies out there, and the
Speaker 4: fact that the heat.
Speaker 6: With all the injuries they've had.
Speaker 4: They think only Memphis has had more games lost injury
Speaker 4: than Miami this year.
Speaker 6: For them to still be competitive.
Speaker 4: Still be about five hundred and still be a top
Speaker 4: ten defense, A lot of that is BA out of bio,
Speaker 4: So you know, what, the hell with it.
Speaker 6: BAM's my pick.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I got to get
Speaker 1: to doom Scroll because you know, here at Bully Bow
Speaker 1: we keep track of all the socials and all the
Speaker 1: petty and all the little backs and for us, so
Speaker 1: you don't have to We just come here every week
Speaker 1: we will catch you up on how petty everyone is being.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that George Curl and Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 1: are really laying it down for us on doom Scroll
Speaker 1: this week. Mellow recently stated on his podcast he was
Speaker 1: talking to Dwayne Wade. He said a deal was basically
Speaker 1: done for him to go to the Lakers in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: The deal was Mello and Nynae for Odum and by them.
Speaker 1: He said that George Carl nicked the deal because he
Speaker 1: did not want Melo to be competing against him George
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference. So we'll start there. We've got
Speaker 1: more George Carl and Mellow to come here. But just
Speaker 1: even on this one trade, I guess, Boogie, how good
Speaker 1: do you think that Laker team would be? Because I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that Melo and Kobe would have co existed
Speaker 1: that great. What do you think?
Speaker 5: I think it could have been something special, especially coming
Speaker 5: off you know, they were on the downside of you know,
Speaker 5: winning at that point with Lamar Oldham the big fellow
Speaker 5: Andrew buying them so kind of bringing in that spark,
Speaker 5: a younger spark, and I think even more talent. It's
Speaker 5: hard to sit here and say that team wouldn't have
Speaker 5: been dangerous impossible.
Speaker 1: I think it would have been dangerous. I just think
Speaker 1: that Chris Paul possibility is the one to me that
Speaker 1: was always like man CP and Kobe that fit and
Speaker 1: all of that. I don't know what, but you think
Speaker 1: Mellow and Kobe would would have been able to work
Speaker 1: out who shot win and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: You got two dynamic offensive guys like Mellow and Kobe
Speaker 5: on the same team. Like it's obviously it's a hypothetical
Speaker 5: thing because it didn't happen, and I can speak in
Speaker 5: hypothetical terms. If that does work and they do figure
Speaker 5: out how to make it work. That's a very, very,
Speaker 5: very scary team and could possibly result in multiple championships.
Speaker 5: So I'm kind of sad that it didn't happen because
Speaker 5: I would have loved to have been able to see
Speaker 5: that and see how I play it out. But obviously
Speaker 5: we're speaking hypothetical, so all I can say is I
Speaker 5: think that would have been a very dangerous team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that when you involved. First of all,
Speaker 4: the Lakers are coming off with two championships, so I
Speaker 4: think Carmelo would walk in, to be honest with you, Rachel,
Speaker 4: with a level of maybe just take it down a
Speaker 4: notch in terms of humility, because hey man, you walking
Speaker 4: into a the team that's been dominating this league, be
Speaker 4: the best player in the league at that point, and
Speaker 4: see obviously Phil Jackson at that time has still looked
Speaker 4: at as a guy who knows how to get the
Speaker 4: most out of people. I think the triangle offense would
Speaker 4: have helped Carmelo still get his shots but also kind
Speaker 4: of play within the flow. We saw him play really
Speaker 4: well in New York in the triangle at times, so
Speaker 4: I don't I think doing that with Again, you gotta
Speaker 4: remember the two bigs would have been Gasol and n Nay.
Speaker 6: Both of those guys are good passers.
Speaker 4: High IQ guys can do the high low thing and
Speaker 4: then defensively really good moving their feet, so they'd help
Speaker 4: Carmelo in that way.
Speaker 3: I think, honestly.
Speaker 4: And then the last part is maybe Kobe gets to
Speaker 4: age a little bit more gracefully as opposed to if
Speaker 4: you look at that last stage of his career, he
Speaker 4: was pushing hard, hard, hard because he had no help.
Speaker 6: You got Carmelo. Now it's like I get to.
Speaker 4: Maybe be a little Olympic Kobe to his Olympic mellow,
Speaker 4: focus on some of other things, elongate my career and
Speaker 4: we keep winning.
Speaker 6: Now in terms of.
Speaker 4: In terms of George saying no to the deal, Oh man,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell y'all a little story.
Speaker 6: It's a quick story. This thing kills me.
Speaker 4: When I was in Phoenix, we were trying to acquire
Speaker 4: a player.
Speaker 6: Should I say names? Should I just keep it?
Speaker 1: This has been a lunch time, you can, okay.
Speaker 4: Travis Deaner. Travis Deaner was the point guard that Marquette
Speaker 4: when Dwayne Wade was there, and he was a decent
Speaker 4: little guard. He could shoot he pushed tempo or whatever.
Speaker 6: But he was not like a world beater or whatever.
Speaker 4: Travis Deaner was on an expiring contract in Orlando, getting
Speaker 4: zero burned, zero play. We wanted a backup for Steve.
Speaker 4: We said that this kid looks like he could run
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that we run. Throw him a
Speaker 4: second round pick, which is a lot for a guy
Speaker 4: who never plays and is going to leave at the
Speaker 4: end of the year. Orlando said no. And the reason
Speaker 4: why I was because they they felt that if they
Speaker 4: traded Travis Diener to us in our system, he was
Speaker 4: gonna look great, and then they would look silly for
Speaker 4: having not played him. And they'd rather not get an
Speaker 4: extra asset for a guy they have no plans for
Speaker 4: than to allow him to be successful make them look silly.
Speaker 4: In the same way for George, you don't like Mello,
Speaker 4: you don't think he's a winner, you say all these things,
Speaker 4: So why would you say no to him playing on
Speaker 4: another team? Why are you so worried that someone else
Speaker 4: can get more out of him than you could? And
Speaker 4: that's the part that always kills me in this league.
Speaker 4: It's like, if you think he's so good, then players
Speaker 4: ask why are you trying to trade him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, look, the Mellow George Carl thing
Speaker 1: wasn't good in the moment. It hasn't been in since.
Speaker 1: It's flared up again over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: which is sort of unexpected. But last week, Mello was
Speaker 1: telling a story on his pot about Carl calling him overrated.
Speaker 1: Poor Deth of shrimp catches strays in that story, I
Speaker 1: feel bad for him. Carl responds to him on Twitter.
Speaker 1: He calls Mellow overrated again as a response to the
Speaker 1: story about him calling Mellow overrated. And then yesterday, Uh,
Speaker 1: George continued the smoke toward Mellow. He tweeted out a
Speaker 1: picture of Jokic, he wished him a happy birthday. He
Speaker 1: called Nikola Jokic the greatest players who ever wear number
Speaker 1: fifteen in Denver Hoop's history, which we of course know
Speaker 1: Mellow War fifteen, and then he tagged Mellow in the post.
Speaker 1: I mean, book you played for George? You you can
Speaker 1: chime in here.
Speaker 5: Where do I start, Rachel, It's like dealing with a
Speaker 5: bitter baby mother.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna put it like this.
Speaker 5: We're all you know in this, in this game, in
Speaker 5: this in this occupation.
Speaker 3: We're all flawed. We have our we have our good qualities,
Speaker 3: we have our bad qualities.
Speaker 5: So through it all, you of you know, you try
Speaker 5: to make the best STU, which every player tries, every
Speaker 5: coach tries. In this situation, you have a Hall of
Speaker 5: Fame coach. On the other hand, you have a Hall
Speaker 5: of fame, a first ballot Hall of Fame player. Neither
Speaker 5: accomplish the ultimate goal. So I'm not really understanding how
Speaker 5: one can say the other is overrated when y'all both
Speaker 5: accomplished and didn't accomplish the same exact things, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 3: So that's where it's. Hey, man, just ride off in the.
Speaker 5: Sunset, brother, Like George, you had your career, Like it's
Speaker 5: over right off in the sunset, like to still be
Speaker 5: living in the past. Like and it's and it's and
Speaker 5: it's constantly it's it's like every year it's something he
Speaker 5: has something to say about somebody right off in the sunset, George,
Speaker 5: Like you know your time is coming gone. It happens
Speaker 5: that every player ride off in the sunset, bro. And
Speaker 5: you know, I wish you nothing but peace and happiness,
Speaker 5: but it's given bitter and miserable bro, like it really is.
Speaker 5: And I'm not even you know, I'm not saying these
Speaker 5: things to start a war with George or anything like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, i could put my petty boots on the
Speaker 5: go all day with this dude, but I'm not really interested.
Speaker 3: Like I'm really not.
Speaker 5: And I got plenty stories out I can validate exactly
Speaker 5: how Melow, There's plenty of that. But George, just ride
Speaker 5: off in the sunset. Bro, Please please for your family,
Speaker 5: for your own sake, for your own happiness, just right
Speaker 5: off in the sunset.
Speaker 3: That's all I got, I'd say.
Speaker 4: I think when we're so far removed from it, like
Speaker 4: it gets a point where, like Boogie said, who cares, man,
Speaker 4: just be cool, Like it's okay to say, man, we really.
Speaker 6: Butted heads back then.
Speaker 4: But now we're both done with our careers, we're looking
Speaker 4: back at it and say, you know what, we accomplished
Speaker 4: some things. They went to a conference finals, They pushed
Speaker 4: the Lakers to six games, They won a.
Speaker 6: Bunch of games. Why remember the bad things as opposed
Speaker 6: to just celebrate and remember the good times?
Speaker 1: Exactly see, and in that note of peace and harmony
Speaker 1: and love for your fellow man, we will wrap things
Speaker 1: up today. I'm glad we solve the all star problem. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing that so many other things. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's always so fun to have you with us. You
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Speaker 1: the games start again. Bye bye, gentlemen.