1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast should probably take more hr class. Yes, 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Greg Rose withal what's up? Buzz hey Dan? Oh yeah, 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Happy Monday. Everybody have a nice weekend. I did I 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: think that we still all parameters that a human resources 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: department would would ask and demand in glowing terms. That 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: was a very like nineties six FM start to a 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: morning show start like seven am, Like hey guys, like, 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: how's the weekend. Sometimes I feel like it's my destiny 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: in like twenty years, I'll be on some like z 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Morning Zoo making a nice paycheck but hating myself privately. 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: We hung out yesterday. We did. We did. That was nice, 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Dan and I pronounced uh Mark and I took the 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: respective families to a little brunch. So four boys ages 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: what mine are? Three and one yours? And seven full 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: gamut h We actually walked by we all met up 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: outside the restaurant and we walked by one of those 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: things where people are just giving away their stuff on 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: the lawn, just like take it it says very l 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: a type giveaway. Yeah, and no joke Greg. There was 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: a toolbox there and I said to Mark, let's get 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: this and give it, give it to Greg on the 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: show on Monday, and then uh, we were in agreement. 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Good idea. On the way back, let's grab it. Came back, 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: it was gone well and our kids were very um. 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: Gregg famously has never had a toolbox, never had a toolbox, 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: and like that that got on the radar of all 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the children that could. I didn't know, I don't, but 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: maybe they're like, who is like why does this Greg 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: person not have a toolbox? And it was hard to 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: explain to kids the dynamics there, but there was a 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: it was a conversation that lasted all the way into 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: the restaurant. They could not wrap their head around seven. 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: Luke was like, I use a hammer. It's like okay, 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: well there's you know, it's a lot happening here. This 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: is a big show, guys. Greg still doesn't have a toolbox. 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: But we have a really good show for you today 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: because it is time every year, Uh, the scientists they 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: go down to the lab and they come up bloodied 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: and bruised, egos, hurt, sometimes shattered, but they mend their 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: fences at the end and they produce a Top one 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: and one free Agents of the Offseason edition. Uh so 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: it's live on NFL dot com right now, go check 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: it out. Does have a vanity or all? It has 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: to Greg Top one oh one free Agents. There you go, 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash Top one oh one free Agents 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: and today's show, the guts of today's show will be 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: breaking down West and Greg's Top one oh one. How 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: did it go this year? By the way, between you guys, 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: because it is it does get sometimes a little bit combative. 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: Did you where were you guys this year compared to 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: other years? Well, there's only like eight players worth grading. 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: So the next two were more like coin flip territory. 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: We were cool. It's you know, it's still ongoing. You know, 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: guys are getting cut today and we're adding them to 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: the list. Uh. We were coming up with some new 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: players and so big debates on whether Pernell McPhee or 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Charles Johnson should be on the list. So it's it's 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: it's a never ending process. Do you have any It 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: does end, by the way, when free agency starts, we 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: stop adding players. But while good players and there's gonna 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: be many of them over the next couple of weeks 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: get added to the mix. Why not do you have 66 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: any issues with uh, the editorial department that is frothing 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: to get this thing out there. But it's at a 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: time where so much news as churning, players getting released. 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: At it you almost have to write the column twice 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: because so many players get released over the next couple 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: weeks that you're you know, you're when does when? Does 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: the work ever in? It's just life in the big city. Yeah, 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the big leagues, Mark, I just heard them complaining about 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: it behind this, so I thought i'd bring it up. 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: This is of the USFL, this is the National Football League. 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: People want, people want that list. A lot of excitement 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: in the building, a lot of pop in the building. 78 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. But before we break down 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: the top of one on one, we have some news 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: to get to and Lindsay fault, Lindsay, are you a millionaire? 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Do you have some news on that? But we're gonna 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: save it for the next show because I'm working some 83 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: things out. It sounds well, it sounds like almost certainly 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: that our producer is a millionaire. So that's I think 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna go come in under a millionaire, but I 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: think it's going to be or she discovered she's quietly 87 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: in a mountain of debt, because if she's, if she's 88 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: a multimillionaire, Uh, she wouldn't be. I'm not here right now. 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Those aren't Who aren't every listener? Every show listeners might 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: not know that Lindsay recently unearthed a large bitcoin uh 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: collection of some kind. I'm not too familiar with what's 92 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: going on with a bit bitcoin industry, but I know 93 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: it's a are you right now? One thing I've learned 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: in my forty four years on this planet is that 95 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: you do not need a financial advisor if you do 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: not have money. So she's got to have some money coming. 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some money, Mommy, I've got a 98 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: drug problem. Blake Bortles, Blake Portals and by the way, 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that's just one of the many drops that can be 100 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: found on Go get my Lunch dot org. Nick Fourtiers, 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: fine fine homage to be around the NFL podcast. Uh, 102 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: here we go. Blake Bortles got an extension rap sheet 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: report rap sheet. By the way, who's gonna be on 104 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: our show? Uh? In Indianapolis. We're gonna be at the 105 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: combine or we're all leaving tomorrow. We'll do two shows 106 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: from Indie and then come on back to Cali. But 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: rap Sheet is gonna be on Wednesday show anyway. Jacksonville 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: signed quarterback Blake Bortles to a three year contract. The 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: team announced. Rap Sheet reported the deals worth fifty four million, 110 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: including twenty six and a half million and guaranteed money. 111 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: The new deal replaces borls current contract had one year 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: remaining on it. Uh That one year, of course, was 113 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: the fifth year option of his rookie deal. Now a 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: lot of people getting all fired up West. How can 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles get an extension? He stinks the Jaguars should 116 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: have been going after Kirk Cousins and and and and 117 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: and jumping through their Super Bowl window. Uh So, now 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: people think that they're doubling down on Blake Bortles. But 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: maybe that's not quite the case here, is it? This 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: seems like more of salary captain management than a huge 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: commitment to the quarterback. To me, when I look at this, 122 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: it's about freeing up money for this year and then 123 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: at the penalty of I believe it's seven million dollars 124 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: to cut him if he doesn't work out next year, 125 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: and even that seven million dollars it was reported this week, 126 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: has offset language in it. So, for instance, if Bortles 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: has a pretty poor season and the Jaguars caught him 128 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and some other team pays him three million dollars to 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: be their backup next year, that's three million dollars less 130 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: than they'd have to pay. It's much ado about nothing. 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: Think they mismanaged giving him the fifth year extension or 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: option a year ago at this time because when he 133 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: got hurt, that locked him into two thousand and eighteen 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: in terms of being their quarterback. And I and I 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: do wonder if they didn't have that option whether they 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: would at least have poked around with case keen Um 137 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: or or Bradford or who knows just looked around the quarterback. Yeah, 138 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: because he's he's expected to be ready for O t s, 139 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: but the injury was an issue. I I don't think 140 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: it stops them on any level for planning for the future. 141 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: If they found a quarterback in the draft that they 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: wanted to either maneuver their way up for or someone 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: that fell to them, I don't think it prevents anything 144 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: in terms of future planning. How often do you give 145 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: a franchise someone you view as a franchise quarterback a 146 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: three year extension. Well, but I get what you're saying, 147 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: but I think they did mess this up because they 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: locked themselves in with Bortles. And I think a lot 149 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: of people agree and I certainly feel this that Bordles 150 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: is not the short or long long term mantel answer 151 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. And they should have been all in on 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and that made so much sense I thought 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: for both sides. And basically what they did they punted 154 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: on a Cousin's pursuit. So I think they have lost here, 155 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: but they have there's no reason to get nuts about 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: the extension itself. But aren't they pivoting off the mistake 157 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: they made pre It's just pivoting off the fifth year 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: option mistake. I don't know if this the whole thing. 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it was handled well, is my opinion 160 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: on it. If you know, if I'm another a f 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: C contender, super Bowl contender, I'm happy about this. Yes, 162 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: it's great, and and you could look at it more like, 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: why would Bordles do this deal? If anything, it's it's 164 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: a face saving thing by the Juggers. Hey, you wanted 165 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: a better deal. You're our franchise quarterback. That is a 166 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: tricky position. I mean, ultimately is their starting quarterback and 167 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: you have to support him publicly. But if you look 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: at what he got out of the deal, it's an 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: extra half million or a million dollars this year and 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: that's about it. If for some reason he keeps getting better, 171 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: he's actually underpaid, like he got very definitely not a 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback cont right, it's he got. He really got 173 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: very little out of very little in terms of guarantees 174 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: or in terms of a great contract. If for some 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: reason he did get way better than there really was. 176 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: With all these contract quarterback contracts that have already happened 177 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: and are going to continue to happen from Kirk Cousins 178 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: on down, this is a total outlier and they cut 179 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: Ivory and this contract lowers their cap. What West said 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: initially that it was a cap maneuver. They took a 181 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: lot off the cap for this season so that then 182 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: go spend some more money in free agency. Here's another 183 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: quarterback who is uh possibly not getting paid big money 184 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: from his current team, case Keenum she doesn't have a 185 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: current team, he's gonna be a free agent, and there was, um, 186 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, people wondered would the Vikings use their franchise 187 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: tag on Keenum, who came off last year's amazing, amazing 188 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: strong but very strong season behind center for the Vikings. 189 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: But Minnesota will not use the franchise tag, according to 190 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: rap Sheet, per sources with knowledge of the team's thinking, um, 191 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, your thoughts on Minnesota's move, I think in 192 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the last I mean, we're gonna keep getting new waves 193 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: of information about Kirk Cousins and where he might go. 194 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, a week ago, the Jets 195 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: with their we're just gonna throw money at you, seemed 196 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: like they might be the lead dog if you could 197 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: convince Kirk Cousins to care about the Jets in that way. 198 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: But it sounds to me like the Vikings are absolutely 199 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: making a genuine preparing for a genuine push here. Gil 200 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Brandt tweeted today he said, if I were a betting man, 201 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I'd say that that's where he lands, and certainly interest 202 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: on both sides. All I would say is that Gil Brandt, 203 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: one of his closest friends is Bill Parcels and one 204 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: of the closest friends the Bill Parcels has is Mike Zimmer. 205 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: There is a avenue of information there where gil brand 206 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: could know what the Vikings are thinking. And there's no 207 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: buzz around Sam Bradford, there's no buzz around Teddy Bridgewater 208 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: with the Vikings right now. They could bring Teddy Bridgewater 209 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: back and still pursues someone else. But I think that 210 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, if he the Vikings we talked about this week, 211 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: that's your attractive landing spot with Jacksonville out of the mix. 212 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I like this avenue of information that our cartographer Mark 213 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Cel just laid out here, from Old Parcels to brant Well, 214 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: all the degrees of gil Brant. There's a question whether 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, at least Pro Football Talk raised the question 216 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: whether he's even going to be a free agent. That 217 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: that's not even a dent settled. The third general manager 218 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: has discussed that. Yeah, but that's it's and I've to 219 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: be fair, we we've sort of forgotten about on some 220 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: level because we're listing him as a free agent because 221 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: that's that's where he's listing. You didn't forget it. We 222 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: didn't forget it. Better we had discussions about it in 223 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: the lamb. We yeah, a little private Me and West 224 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: conversations downstairs. Uh, we'll get more into keenam a little 225 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: bit later in the show. I guarantee you moving on. 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters trade from the Chiefs to the Rams that 227 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: went down late last week or is an official It's 228 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: official once a new league gear kicks in, But it's happening. 229 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: It's a done deal anyway. No one knew what the 230 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs got back in exchange for the number one corner 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: at You expected it to be something steep and saucy. 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: Not so much. The Rams send back a second and 233 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick uh, and the Rams I believe, 234 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: send back to k C a sixth round pick uh 235 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: to get the deal done. So Greg that the Rams 236 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: land themselves a premier cornerback and they didn't even have 237 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: to give up a first round pick to get it done. No. 238 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: And I saw this, you know, draft pick hall that 239 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: they got, and I thought, oh, that sounds about right. 240 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I see a lot of reaction that the Rams really 241 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: snooker the Chiefs and what a great deal and it 242 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: and it may prove to be. We we talked about 243 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: how much we liked Peters is fit. But in terms 244 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: of just knowing that the Chiefs were fairly dead set 245 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: on tradeing Um, there's a report out there that they 246 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: were trying to for the last three weeks. This sounds 247 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: about what I would expect that they could get from 248 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters. He's not He's not exactly a clean prospect 249 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: if he was a NFL draft pick, you know, as 250 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: talented as he is. I think it's telling that the 251 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: two men who drafted him, who were there when he 252 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: was drafted in Kansas City, Chris Ballard and John Dorsey, 253 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: who are now running teams, didn't even investigate. They didn't 254 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: want to trade for him at all. And I think 255 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: the rest of the league knows that right because when 256 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: it came out and talked about the forty Niners and 257 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: the Browns also pursuing him, but that's it's come out later. 258 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: The Browns absolutely did not presume him. So the forty 259 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Niners were maybe the other team out there that got out. 260 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: They got out, drafted out essentially the Rams like out. 261 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: No other team in the NFL would have given up 262 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: a second and a fourth to get The report was 263 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: that they tried to trade him for three weeks and 264 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: this was the best offer they except. The only thing 265 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: is that, I mean, who knows what's going on behind 266 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the scenes. I mean what we've seen overtly during that 267 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: Jets game was a bit of an issue. And it's like, 268 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's just a it's a lot to ask in 269 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: a trade to bring him onto He wasn't the first. 270 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't the first thing to come up between Marcus 271 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: Peters and his in his coach is in the organization 272 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: not being thrilled with him. That happened on and off. 273 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: I would say for three seasons. When I look at 274 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: this deal, it's a tacit acknowledgement that the Alex Smith, 275 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, justin Houston, Eric Berry, Tom Bowie nucleus of 276 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: the past half decade maxed out early last October when 277 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: they were five and oh and they were never gonna 278 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: get any better than that. And I think when you're 279 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: trading for Peters, you're also understanding you probably are looking 280 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: at paying him huge money or else the deal doesn't 281 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: make sense, and that that lowers his value. With all 282 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: this said, I think it was a great move for 283 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: the Rams that they get Marcus Peters essentially for two 284 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: years and ten million dollars on onto that team. I 285 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: still like the move. Moving on the Carolina Panthers created 286 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: some cap room cutting veterans Charles Johnson and Kurt Coleman. Uh. 287 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Johnson has been there forever drafted in two two thousand 288 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: seven out of Georgia and Uh mark an thing from 289 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: these deals or these moves that surprises you or something 290 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: that was expected. It seemed like this was something people 291 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: have talked about happening. I mean, Charles Johnson may be 292 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: done with football at this point and he barely Yeah, 293 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: And it's like with Coleman, he's about to turn thirty. 294 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the like this, like we just about 295 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs that there, maybe they're moving on from some 296 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: of the key players they've had on them. Coleman and 297 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: I would call him a key player, but they're getting 298 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: younger at safety. Yeah, two players in clear decline. Coleman 299 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl caliber player in two thousand fifteen. 300 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: Uh played through some injuries in two thousand and sixteen 301 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: and was kind of a liability last year. Both players 302 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: were liabilities last year. It's a nice run for Charles Johnson, 303 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: eleven years in one place. Overcame a lot too, got 304 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: a got a huge contract right after the lockout, and 305 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: that I think that you're right West. I bet that's 306 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: probably it for Charles Johnson. And finally another some more 307 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: roster house keeping, the Bears released Parnell McPhee and Quentin 308 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Demps uh. Together. The move creates over ten million dollars 309 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: in cap space, over seven million connected to McPhee. Uh. 310 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: McPhee signed a five year deal worth almost thirty nine million, 311 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: and but cannot stay on the field. Uh, so they 312 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: decided to move forward. Bears are going to spend a 313 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: lot of money. I looked at this, these two moves, 314 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: which both happened on Monday, not as connected, but as 315 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: two teams that could be competing for receivers in free agency. 316 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers are gonna be looking at receivers, 317 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: maybe Sammy Watkins. I think the Bears are going to 318 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: be looking for receivers. Alright, that's what's happening in the news. Okay, 319 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: nice little appetizer, some wings, uh for the boys, Mark, 320 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: we got you some ums hummus or maybe some spinach dip. 321 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: That's Marks again. No, you're the boys. But in terms 322 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: of the appetizers, the the the intro was inclusive of all, 323 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and then you dug down to what the menu items. 324 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Maybe subconsciously the wings is like, yeah, yeah, the bulls, 325 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: the guys sit around eating me and the vegetarian boy. 326 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: That maybe that's what was that was that was coming from. Ultimately, 327 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: what I was trying to do is be inclusive. But 328 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: then my subconscious ratted me out. That's what happened there. 329 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Your subconscience revealed you to a villain anyway. So that 330 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: was the appetizer. Now the main course. Oh yeah, the 331 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Free Agency Top one hundred and one count down. Well, 332 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of a count up actually because you guys, 333 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: we don't, you know, try to get too cute with 334 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: this um. You started one, you take it all the 335 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: way to one on one, and good job of the 336 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: branding for the second straight year it is one and one. 337 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: After that disaster, the top nine think it was in 338 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: one on one every year except for that one regrettable year, 339 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: so it's never even been one there. It's kind of like, uh, 340 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: in like the eighties when Coca Cola went to New 341 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Coke for that brief da and it was a total 342 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: boot doggle. It was a pr collapse and they scrambled 343 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: back and said, no, no, no, this is Coca Cola classic. 344 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: Baby went back. Baby. It's like when when your boys 345 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: YouTube made the album that just automatically downloaded onto your phone, 346 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: and that annoyed me. I couldn't get that thing off 347 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: my phone for nineteen months and I finally had deep suits, 348 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: deep search how to do it. That was also you 349 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: could could call that a major pr boondoggle. You two's 350 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: the Songs of Innocence album not their best work either, 351 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: so a little double double banging there upon society. Um, anyway, 352 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: now the top one on one NFL free agents, UM, 353 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: Wes and Greg, we're gonna go down to the lab Mark. 354 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to come? I'll join all right, we're 355 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: all I mean for some of it. Yeah. Yeah, As 356 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: West has said, I actually have access downstairs, but I don't. 357 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't like to do that. I'm I'm kind of 358 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: like the every man. I like to just down and 359 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: maybe I'll maybe I'll join you. Uh and and but 360 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: since this special occasion, the spinach Tip is gonna come 361 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: downstairs too, So let's let's let's go downstairs. Let's go 362 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: there we go, everybody, watch your stuff bring out the gamp. 363 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: It's a little hunted back. We have a we might 364 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: have a a ghost situation, but don't worry about that. 365 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: Um Here we are in the lab and it's time 366 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: to go through it all. Let's start, Let's get it going. 367 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: How do we want to break this down? How do 368 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: we want to talk about this? Greg? This is the 369 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: type of stuff maybe you talk about before the show, 370 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: but cause we're gonna do it in real time, pull 371 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: back the cart and open the kimono. Top one one, Greg, 372 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: why don't we just start at the top. I mean, 373 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: start with with the big names, which somewhat we've talked 374 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: about on this show. But our top five is Cousins Breeze, 375 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: Levan Bell, DeMarcus Lawrence, and ziggy Ansa. One thing that 376 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: stands out to me having been through the process. Alan 377 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: Robinson ended up I believe, at number five, ahead of 378 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: ziggy Ansa initially and not really upset Chris Wesley, I 379 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: mean he was how upset? Well, it didn't make any 380 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: sense to me that a pass rusher in his prime, 381 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: averaging thirteen sacks in his last two healthy seasons was 382 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: behind a wide receiver who's not only coming off an 383 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: a C. L. Injury, but has given a free pass 384 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: for an absolutely horrendous two thousand sixteen seasons. He struggled. 385 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: I think answas, and I think in the end he's 386 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: gonna get franchise tag. Both of these guys might not 387 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: even make it to the free agent market. Ansa's kind 388 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: of underwhelmed over the last few years as a guy 389 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: who's loaded up with a couple of big games again 390 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: some really poor tackle and nine of his sacks in 391 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: three games. And and a guy you watched week after 392 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: week and you think, good runs, good run stopper, not 393 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: a huge difference maker. And he's a little older than 394 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: you would think coming off of his first contract because 395 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: he was old entering the league. But he's still a solid, 396 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: still a solid pickup if you get him. There's no 397 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: pass rushers out there. I mean, assuming none of these 398 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: guys through Allen Robinson get to market, well, Cousins is 399 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: getting there. Well, it sick beyond Cousins, Like the what 400 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: what we're left with? The number seven is our top 401 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: free agent? Is an ominous entry. Well, Cousins the free 402 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: agent because I know, but with Cousins, we already had 403 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: dug so deep into the Cousins narrative that it's like, 404 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: here's the rest of that. You are you're taking shots 405 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: at the top one on one right now, I don't understand. 406 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a good top twenty this year because Cousins, 407 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: he's a legit. That makes it if you took Cousins 408 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: out of this, if he like that, then what what? 409 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: What are you lest more problems? I don't know. We 410 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: had Jari's bird ranked number on one year. We've got 411 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater and we did, we do and I do 412 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: think it. Drew Brees is the forgotten man in this 413 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: entire scenario. When I hear that he's going to accept 414 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: between twenty and twenty five million to resign in New Orleans, 415 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: I just don't buy it. I don't see why he 416 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: would he would take such a low deal, and and 417 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: I do think there's a decent chance he gets to 418 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: free agents. But it's not just insiders who have changed 419 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: their tune. It's Drew Brees himself who has commented it said, 420 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't want the drama this time around, so I 421 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: just want to go for a super Bowl. Yeah, that 422 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: felt wrapped up to me. Do you feel like this 423 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: that we could be a combine in a couple of days, 424 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: and there could be some sort of insane rumor that 425 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: creeps out if Drew Brees is really dead set on 426 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: helping out the Saints, essentially, that's what it'll take. But 427 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I I he's a guy who's been with the NFL 428 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: p A, He's a guy who's always it's so undervalued 429 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: for him to be making that sort of money that 430 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just complicated. You're right, he's probably not 431 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna go to another team. It's that old question because 432 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: you can't ever say, oh, he's made an of money. 433 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: But Drew Brees probably has made enough money. But I mean, 434 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't like get after the guy if 435 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: he says I want to max out, because I know 436 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't probably don't have, and I don't need to 437 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: hear about helping out the rest of the team. When 438 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: you look at the money that Mickey Loomis and Ton 439 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: Ben's and and the rest of the franchise has spent 440 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: over the last X amount of years, almost all of 441 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: it has been poorly spent. And Drew Brees is by 442 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: far the most important player in franchise history. It's just 443 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: tricky because he's he's aging, and yes he's not gonna 444 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: apparently hold them over a barrel. And I mean it 445 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: says when you're right up that he's a lead pipe 446 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: block to resign with the saint. You know we each right, Uh, 447 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: that would be my right okay, But it sounds a 448 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: little violent, but I like to like the energy around it. 449 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: It's fair. That's that's some that's old age gambly parlance. 450 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Read pipe block. Yeah, I had to look that up 451 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: in the Greg jargon Index. Greg uses it like four 452 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: times a day. I feel like lead pipe is lead 453 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: pipe block? Really? Uh a little? I think it is. 454 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: I feel I've heard that feels like something for someone 455 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: that is, you know, trying to be on the lamb 456 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: from gamblings. That's when the lead. Sometimes I'll be at 457 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: the commissaries Greg like, oh yeah, I'm a lead pipe 458 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: block for the grilled chicken sandwich. Today it's like, Greg, 459 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: stop using gambling parlance at the office. It's legal moving on. Um, 460 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: you know who. I think that's all right. So you 461 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: have Sheldon richards said at seven mark you were getting 462 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: at that if if if you after cousins, if Sheldon 463 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: Richardson is the next truly likely guy to be really 464 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: out there. I think it's come up on the show 465 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: a little surprising. Maybe he's a top ten guy, but 466 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: maybe that's the market. I think he's a guy who 467 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: has the potential at least to be a big time 468 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: difference maker, and at at the very least he's helped 469 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: he's helping out your team as a starter. I mean, 470 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: when we look past him, let's say, in the top ten, 471 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy and Sammy Watkins, who's coming 472 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: off a very underwhelming year, has always been a little 473 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: more hyped up than he has been productive a guard 474 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: in Andrew Norwell, who's certainly played well but not not 475 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: a superstar. In Kyle Fuller, who in two of his 476 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, four NFL seasons, has been a net negative 477 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: and has been really good and interesting in the other two. 478 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: So none of the to make it to free agency, 479 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: it's almost like you have to have something a little 480 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: off with you. We had so many players in these 481 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of guys West and I 482 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: disagreed on, but they all had similar stories, which were 483 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: they showed some potential and looked like great players at 484 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: some point, but something's gone seriously wrong in between, and 485 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: it's whether it's injuries for the most part, or it's 486 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: poor production or some sort of off the field red flag, 487 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: like something's gone wrong for most of these guys for 488 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: them to get a guy to bring up because first 489 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: of all, in this era, I don't know what's what 490 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: if it's indicative of a bigger situation, but every year 491 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: it teams. Now we hear with the draft classes not 492 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: a lot of elite offensive lineman prospects, and then there's 493 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: not a lot of guys that hit the market that 494 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: don't have major red flags or age or injury concerns 495 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: or whatever. Norwell would be a guy who think is 496 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna get paid huge, bunny, because it's such getting talent 497 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: and young talent as it's it's such a premium right 498 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: now and in the case and I'm looking at your 499 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: right up here. Uh, this could have been a situation 500 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: of the Panthers just salary wise, tying up too much 501 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: money already with their line. I think I want some managre. Norwell, 502 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: give me him. I think if he was a tackle, 503 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: he'd be getting at Matt Cleil money. I still wonder 504 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: what the market is for guards. Kevin Zeitler got paid 505 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: last year, but I think he was regarded as a 506 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: better talent than Andrew Norwell. Norwell is a guy who 507 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: shows the influence that Pro Football Focus has had. Now 508 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: when we're rating guards, what what the hell do we know? 509 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: For the most part, we're basing it off of what 510 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: we hear and what we read and what coaches say. 511 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: Norwell got a second team All speak for yourself, but continue, no, 512 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: nor All got second team All Pro almost exclusively off 513 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: of his great PF grade. I think it's fair to 514 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: say I don't think the fifty Associated Press voters like 515 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Bob Costas were necessarily breaking down the to be into 516 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: a banging of Costas. I'm just saying the ape like 517 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Norwell is a guy who the Panthers basically chose Trey 518 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Turner was going to get their long term money probably 519 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: a guard last year, and I wish that we had 520 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: Mark and I wrote that free agent fits article. I 521 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: should have put Norwell on the Giants because the Giants 522 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: have Dave Gettlman there who was there with Norwell, and 523 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: plenty of money to spend in a big time need 524 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: go where. But you know, as we head into draft season, 525 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell, first line untrafted out of Ohio State, give 526 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: me a break with the draft. I am so now 527 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: we've we've banged the Associated press voting in the draft. 528 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: I think he'll get paid a lot because there's just 529 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: been there's been a lot of sub pro Bowl guards 530 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: that have been paid about eight nine million dollars a 531 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: year when they get to free agency the last few years, 532 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and Norwell seems to be at least at or maybe 533 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: even above that. I would go eleven to sixteen. Super saucy. 534 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: Super Saucy will start with Keenum, who you have at 535 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: eleven here? Uh, And I think this is interesting. I 536 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: actually looked up your uh that disastrous top ninety nine 537 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: lists from two thousand and sixteen just to see because 538 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: there is that connective tissue between Case Keenum and now 539 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick coming off his one big year with the Jets. Uh, 540 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: you had Fits at twenty three. You have Keenum at eleven, 541 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: which makes sense because Keenum seems to have a higher 542 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: ceiling he's younger, but at the same time, a lot 543 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: of question marks still for eleven on this Fitzpatrick certainly 544 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: didn't live up to that rank of nut got one 545 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: year twelve million from the Jets. Keenum will get a 546 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: multi year deal, right, Yeah, I would think so. And 547 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Keenum is the guy who who played like a top 548 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: twelve quarterback last year, but he's also the guy who 549 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: got benched for Jared Goff the year before and was terrible. 550 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: He was also the guy who the Texans dumped, the 551 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Rams dumped twice and then resigned him. He's all of 552 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: those guys, so you have to you have to evaluate 553 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: all that. But he's a guy, like a lot of 554 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league, who was almost wholly dependent on 555 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: his surrounding talent and coaching. And when we talk about 556 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: each of these players, whoever is here has something wrong 557 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: with him, it's more of his history predating this past season. 558 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Because if that were if that were your your all 559 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: loane sample size, people would be chased napturim. But I 560 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: think people are still spooked by the idea of giving 561 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: him more than a one year deal or two year deal. Well, 562 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: as I said before the show, two thousand and seventeen 563 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: is just as gone as two thousand and fourteen. None 564 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: of these seasons mean anything next year. He's someone I 565 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: think that's always been probably a little better if you 566 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: look back at than his reputation even with the Texans, 567 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: for instance, that if you compare into the other quarterbacks 568 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: that played in almost each one of his spots, he 569 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: generally played better than those other quarterbacks. So you're right, 570 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of about the situation brought him down. But 571 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: he can be a good player, obviously in the right system. 572 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a free agent last year. He 573 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: wasn't even on our list a year ago, and he 574 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't get signed for for a month. And it's because 575 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a huge arm. I don't think he 576 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: has like the anticipation that you normally like to see. 577 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't think people think of him as necessarily. He's not. 578 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: He's not viewed as a durable guy either. He's not 579 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: viewed as like he's Tom Brady on the field, like 580 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: breaking them and knowing Tom Brady on the field, but 581 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: like that he's necessary. He's an instinctive player, not necessarily 582 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: reading the entire defense and winning before this name. It's 583 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: just telling to me too, when a team like Minnesota 584 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: if they could, if you knew you could get case 585 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: Keenom to do the same thing next season that he 586 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: did this past season, you wouldn't have a problem having 587 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: that happen again, and there seems to be very little 588 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: interest in bringing him back. You you love Kyle Fuller. 589 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: I want to point out before out of the top ten, 590 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: Chris Westling really is into Kyle Fuller. Yes, big Fuller 591 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: got a full on you know what? Yeah, like like 592 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: you said, I don't know just the love for Kyle Fuller. Well, 593 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: like you said, he's had two really good seasons, and 594 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: he's had two seasons that were affected by injury when 595 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: he's been healthy. And this was one of the philosophical 596 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: disagreements that Greg and I have. If I see a 597 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: guy play well when he's healthy, I'm willing to take 598 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: a chance on that upside versus a guy who's just 599 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 1: average at his best, but he's durable and you can 600 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: rely on him. I want the guy with the upside. Yeah, 601 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: I think, I mean I do too. It we just 602 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: disagreed on who has upside and who doesn't. Know Fuller 603 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: Fuller has had he's had a season where he's been 604 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: healthy and he's lost his confidence and and he struggled, 605 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: But I still had him in my top twenty. I 606 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: think there's very few young cornerbacks that you know, could 607 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: start and could help your team, and that's why I 608 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: had him as a top twenty guy. I you like 609 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: the rest of this saucy tip, I will take a 610 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: little bit of exception fuller. We just talked about him 611 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: two good years, two questionable years, Malcolm Butler. Okay, maybe 612 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: he wasn't that great this year, but two very good 613 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: years before that. Entering his season at number twelve, I 614 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: feel like he's a top ten frabacy guy. How did 615 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: he fall out of the top tip? Well, I've talked 616 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: about this many times to Malcolm Butler. The Patriots told 617 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: us what they thought of him, and I'm not talking 618 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl. I'm talking about the fact that 619 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: he was never used on number one guys that he 620 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: was he was. They would play Logan Ryan in the 621 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: safety over the top against prototypical number one receivers, and 622 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: then as soon as Stepan Gilmore got there, they would 623 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: play Gilmore on on prototypical number one receivers. Certainly depended 624 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: on the matchup. I mean, he famously would be the 625 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: guy who goes against Antonio and if it's a smaller, quicker, 626 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: smaller number one. But nobody's putting Malcolm Butler on Julio 627 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: Jones no, but that's I mean, that's so he's not 628 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: like a first team All prolock every year, but he's 629 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: not a number one corner it's gonna make a fortune, 630 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: I think. I think the way that he played in 631 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: he I don't know if there are more than five 632 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: or six number one corners by that definition. I think 633 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: he was a top ten to twelve cornerback where he 634 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: was a big time difference maker if you use them 635 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: the right way and you match them up with the 636 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: right people. And I don't know if there's more than 637 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: five or six cornerbacks who are like beyond that where 638 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: you're just like that's that's like a name more than 639 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: five or six off the top of our heads. You're 640 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: talking about guys like Darius Slay, Casey Hayward, Patrick p Pederson, 641 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman um all also all some of the highest 642 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: paid guys in league. I think Butler will get paid 643 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: though he will be somebody that somebody will value. Maybe 644 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: pay is the number one even if he isn't quite that, 645 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: he is someone that will get I think knocked a 646 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: little bit for his Like the guy when when you 647 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: don't get drafted high, I think it keeps hurting you 648 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: throughout the process because so many teams hold onto how 649 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: they felt and they're just like, this guy is not 650 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: really that talented. We saw him as an undrafted guy. 651 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: The Patriots helped to make him look better, and I 652 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: think it'll knock him. Like, for instance, the next guy 653 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: I believe on the list is Trumaine Johnson, right, And 654 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: I think Trumaine Johnson, if I had to, you know, 655 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: put a sandwich on it, will get more money than 656 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. I mean also, I don't know if coaches 657 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: should care at all, but like the most notorious benching 658 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: that we've seen in the last like five years, Super 659 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday, Malcolm Butler. Does that not affect I mean, 660 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: I think I've joked, I've joked about it, but I'm 661 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of serious too, Like the Patriots did him absolutely 662 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: no favorite at all. So not only does he have 663 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: that undrafted stay condom if you want to call it that, 664 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: he also has this like character concern of on some 665 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: level coming off a Super Bowl benching. Uh could affect 666 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: this mark. It's fair. You have Teddy Bridgewater and Sam 667 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: Bradford back to back fifteen and sixteen. I'm I guess, 668 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: how do you guys, do this was? I know West 669 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: we just talked about in the last show. You you 670 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: think that Teddy Bridgewater is a massive question mark and 671 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: no assumption should be made. Greg, you believe he is 672 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: the next Joe Montana? So how did you? How did 673 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: you figure this? None of this is true? Um, you 674 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: just average out the two rankings. So had Teddy Bridgewater 675 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: number one. Yeah. I was surprised to hear um how 676 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: down West was and I and I get that he's 677 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: pointing out his inconsistencies, but I was heartened to see 678 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: that West clearly saw some upside in Bridgewater because he 679 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: still had him as a top twenty player. West adam 680 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: twenty I had a ninth on my list. Is that 681 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: a commentary on this list? Yeah? I told you there's 682 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: only eight players this year in four years because because 683 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: twenty two me so is at least you think you 684 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: would think he has a chance to help you as 685 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: a starter at some point, because otherwise why would he 686 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: be that best case scenario? He has a chance to 687 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: he has a chance to be that guy. Now, I 688 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: think there's very little chance we're gonna ever see best 689 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: case scenario with Keddy Bridgemain Quarter quarterback definitely gets a 690 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a bump because of because of the 691 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: position and because of the I mean, he's a boom 692 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: or bust scenario for me. Though. We could do this 693 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: for the next five hundred years and you will never 694 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: again have a scenario where three quarterbacks from the same 695 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: team ranked top sixteen in this exercise. That is one 696 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: of the most peculiar sandwiched around to defensive backs from 697 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: the Rams. It is. It is one of the most 698 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: peculiar scenarios of any free agent class ever. If you're 699 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: measuring that, it has to be the two defensive backs. 700 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't care about thee that's it's just I find 701 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: it's so strange. It is. It is bizarre, and it 702 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: shows how valuable quarterbacks because Sam Bradford, in theory is 703 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: it has is a huge dread flag and Bridgewater has 704 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: huge red flags. But because they play quarterback and because 705 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: they've been pretty solid fairly recently, it's like they're worth 706 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: taking a chance on at least over you know some 707 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: other guys. When you look at the guys who are 708 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: behind them on the list, let's say, like Nate Solder 709 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: or Bashad Brill and who certainly have potential. I mean 710 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: those guys have been healthy and been below average starters 711 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: at their positions at some points. If you go back 712 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: and watch Week one of last year, you would have 713 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford and your top five. Yeah, he had the 714 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: I do the QB Index during the season, and that 715 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: wound up as the second highest graded game by any 716 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: quarterback all season. And I remember thinking early on, like, wow, 717 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: that was crazy that Sam Bradford has this this score 718 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: from that game, Like, I hope I'm not just like 719 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: overrating because it was the first week and ended up 720 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: holding up. I think one Aaron Rodgers game beat him. 721 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean he still has coaches around the league that 722 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: love him too. That game was one of the best 723 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: ball placement performances I've ever seen. Everything was just right 724 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: on the receiver's hands in stride. It was it was 725 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: breath take h mark. Anything from let's say eighteen to 726 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: twenty four you want to bring up or do you 727 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: want to shoot ahead to the top thirty. I don't 728 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: can be interesting to see what happens with Kenny Vicaro 729 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: at twenty four because it sounds like he's been linked 730 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys forever and that they want to pay 731 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: him a lot of money potentially, I do you think 732 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be worth that money. He seems like 733 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: pretty streaky in New Orleans good season, bad season. I 734 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: feel like the Cowboys have had safeties coming out of 735 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: their ears the last year or two and they need cornerbacks. Yeah, 736 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: he's He's a guy I think the Saints never knew 737 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: totally what to do with and eventually grew frustrated with him. 738 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: So that's not a good sign for a young player. 739 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: But he's also a very versatile player who can cover, 740 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: who can hit like you look at. He's the type 741 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: of guy I think gets over faded free agency because, 742 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: like the draft, he's a very toolsy type of guy 743 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: that some team will look at and think, all right, 744 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: we can make him into a start like Greg Williams. 745 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I would love him some Kenny Vecaro, 746 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: Like that's a Greg Williams type a player. I think 747 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: he's gotten so much credit for his versatility, but probably 748 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: not enough criticism for his coverage. How about this, What 749 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: kind of contract do you give Jimmy Graham one year? 750 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: This is like two years at most. Right, this is 751 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: one of the guys that West and I disagreed on 752 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: the most. Maybe we go through a few a few 753 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: of them, but Wes had him ranked number eighteen on 754 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: his list, and I had him forty or thirty eight 755 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: on my list because at this point he's kind of 756 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: just a guy don't want it, I don't want on 757 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: my team. It just feels like there's at least a 758 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: fifty percent chance he's just gonna fall off a cliff 759 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: and not really help you much at all. He needs 760 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: to go to the right situation to not disappear entirely. 761 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: He's one year removed from a n three yard season 762 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: in an offense that didn't feature him. He's someone that 763 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: just it's kind of just watching him using the eye 764 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: test that he just he's lost so much quickness off 765 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: of where he as. He's almost tough to watch running 766 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: routes now that he reminds me a little more of 767 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: like a Jason Witten type. And when you have a 768 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: guy who can't block and has that kind of lack 769 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: of movement, it's like a guy whose career I think 770 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: could end earlier than you would have. I mean, why 771 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: not back to Seattle. They don't have a ton of 772 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: tight end right now, and he they did kind of 773 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: find a way to unlock him in the red zone 774 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: at least Lash you had a couple of good games. Yeah, 775 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: that's that's a good question. I just feel like he 776 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: they haven't maximized him in Seattle, and I think guys 777 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: like this are tricky. Like Greg said, he hasn't moved 778 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: as well. We were saying the same things about Antonio 779 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: Gates in his early thirties, that he was on the decline, 780 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: that he wasn't moving as well coming off of um 781 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: some some foot injuries, and then he bounced back with 782 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: a huge season and looked fast again. You just never 783 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: know with guys uh in the thirties. I've heard some 784 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: buzz on Graham to the Bears where Ryan Pace is 785 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: former Saints guy. Uh in the thirties to uh By 786 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: low guys I could have value. I think Vonte Dave 787 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: this coming off the cornerback for the Colts, coming off 788 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: two injury plague seasons, and we've talked about him a 789 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: little bit of Ready, Tyler Eiffort the tight end, another 790 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: guy with injury history, but probably won't cost you a 791 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: ton either of those guys, and then the payoff could 792 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: be big if they bounce back stay healthy. That's a 793 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: good point because if these guys weren't coming off the injury, 794 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: if they both played sixteen games last year, I think 795 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: they're both top ten on this list. Right effort maybe 796 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: the biggest X factor in the entire list because he's played. 797 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: It's not just he's coming off an injury. He is. 798 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: He is an injury. He's been injured his entire career 799 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: three three out of four years. He's a literal injury. 800 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: If he wasn't so good in that one season, his 801 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: career would basically be over because you don't see NFL 802 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: players survive, not miss. Essentially missing three out of four seasons. 803 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: He's played ten games in the last two seasons. He's 804 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: played twenty four his entire career, and almost in more 805 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: than half of those was in one season. So when 806 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: three out of the four seasons he's essentially given you nothing, 807 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: and he's got persistent back issues, which is a tough 808 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: thing to overcome. With all that said, when when he 809 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: was out there, he was probably a top two or 810 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: three tight end, So there's like no way to know 811 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: what what he is. But the fact that the Bengals 812 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: are kind of done with him doesn't speak too. Well, 813 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: I think you have trade. You guys have Trey Burton 814 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: U two spots ahead of Eiffort. Uh and Burton of 815 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: course kind of got locked behind zach Ertz and Philly. 816 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: And he's a guy. So it's interesting if you are 817 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: in the market for a tight end those two guys. 818 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: That's a that's that's a decision to make there, because 819 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: Burton is more untested but seems to pass all the 820 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: smell test of it all that he could be a 821 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: guy that steps into a bigger role. Eiffort has already 822 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: proven it. But it's all bank. You didn't get locked 823 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: behind zach Ertz on the Philly Special? Oh yeah, which 824 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: is which, by the way, has been trademark Now, well 825 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: there's been claim filed. Claims. Eight different groups have filed 826 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: for trademark for the Philly Special, including the Eagles. I 827 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: feel like the Eagles should should potentially be the front 828 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: runner there. It's one of the one of them. They 829 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: were the eighth to the file the trademark. Stupid, if 830 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: you have that play in the bag for the Super Bowl, 831 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: you file that before the game. Well, the Patriots have 832 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: name filed them pre Super Bowl MultiMate. Do you know 833 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: what they're doing, because I think I don't know the business, 834 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: the trademark business. Don't trademark lawyers, but like, yeah, dude, 835 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: and then that way, if if it's if it's a 836 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: matter of like first come, first serve, get off me. 837 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm already I've already trademarked. I love the idea. I 838 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: think you ask where their brains are? You know what 839 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: if that they're thinking about trademarking a potential trick play 840 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 1: you put your you put your version of Ernie Adams 841 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: on the legal team like two weeks ahead of time 842 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 1: and say get on this. Yes, uh moving on. Isn't 843 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: their version of Ernie Adams one of Greg's good friends. 844 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: Well that may be a stretch, but but it's but 845 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the job responsibilities are Greg, Greg 846 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: all sour in the face about that um that comments 847 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: comment real no comment? There one player that we skipped 848 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 1: over here talk about an X factor? How about twenty 849 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: nine Dion Lewis. I can't wait to find out where 850 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: he winds up? Are you just queuing up west to 851 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: just because no? Because it's like talk about him, been 852 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: three years building him up on this podcast. I know 853 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: that's why That's why the heel turn on d It's 854 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: not even a heeln, it's just evaluating a player. So 855 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: he don't you don't feel like he would fit almost 856 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: anywhere else. I think he would fit great in a 857 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: lot of places as a role player, as a complimentary back. 858 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: I would not want to count on a guy who's 859 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: injured as often as Dion Lewis and his undersized to 860 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: be my main workhorse. He's like, come on, you, you 861 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: put me behind John Brown. John Brown hasn't done anything 862 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of years and he's been on the field. 863 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: Here's another be behind n J Gaines. But that would 864 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: be like ranking Dion Lewis in too things, ranking John 865 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: Brown like ranking Dean Lewis in two thousand and fourteen. 866 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: Low you you ranked the talent, not the most recent season. 867 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: Listen as someone that pounded the table for Lamar Miller 868 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: in free agency. I know how these guys are going 869 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: to perform with their new teams, and Dean Luis is 870 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Saw that Lamar Miller may get cut. 871 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: You know. Ouch, Uh, here's the guy I think you 872 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: guys have been a little bit unfair with in the blurb. 873 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know which one of you wrote the blurb, 874 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: But Jordan Matthews a thirty nine Uh, you wrote he 875 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,479 Speaker 1: proved in Philly he could produce out of the slot 876 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: with two catches in his first three years. He proved 877 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: in Buffalo he's not talented enough to transcend problematic surroundings. Now. 878 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: A nice piece of writing, like the sentence. However, I 879 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: think I was banged up from day one. They're literally 880 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: day one. He jacked up his finger, never was healthy. 881 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: I almost look at that year as a wash. And 882 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 1: and he's still to me a guy that has some 883 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: real potential. He's too high for me, even at thirty nineties. 884 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: Too high for me. I think he's a major injury 885 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: risk going forward. He's he's been limited to the slot 886 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: in his career, and he's not an outside receiver. I 887 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: don't I'm not wild about Jordan Matthews. Yeah, Jordan's I 888 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: wrote that, by the way. Uh, But I had him 889 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: a little higher than West. I think the fact that 890 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles even traded him, and and I don't think 891 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: they really saw him as a guy who's gonna be 892 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: a huge difference maker. That he was a nice kind 893 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: of piece of the puzzle. He had production of of 894 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: a top receiver, but I think they saw more as 895 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: a three or a four type in the slot. He's fine, 896 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: but they I think they love that trade for them. 897 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: They got Nelson Aghilar on the field, who I think 898 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: did things that that Jordan Matthews could not break. Rhyames 899 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: A thirty five at forty three, he's heading towards his 900 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: age thirty five season. Uh, is this any fear that 901 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: forty three is not high enough for Miko who might 902 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: come after you guys in a big spot. She probably 903 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: thinks he's topped three. I think Greg wrote the write 904 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: up here if I'm guessing anyhow, quest did you have 905 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: any apprehension mcnico Grimes did not cross my mind when 906 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: I was writing this. And as I said before you 907 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: heard that, I just battled the big c. I'm not 908 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: afraid of Miko Grimes. Uh. He was one of the 909 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: guys randomly that we agreed on the most. We both 910 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: we had them almost identical in our rankings in the 911 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: early forties. And so yeah, it's like on the same page, 912 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: do you want one year of a quality cornerback or 913 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 1: do you want several years of a guy who's coming 914 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: off injuries, who's young and hasn't realized his potential. To me, 915 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: it just speaks like at some point you just want 916 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: the guy you can plug in there and play and 917 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: not worry about the next three or four years. He 918 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: was right next to on my personal list, but he's 919 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: much lower on on the overall list. Uh star load 920 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: lele or as Dan likes to call him, who who 921 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: was a guy. And that was one where I struggled with, 922 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: was like, he's a young player who's played a lot 923 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: of snaps, but is anyone actually sure that he's been 924 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: any good at any point in his career, Like, has 925 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: has he even been an asset? Or has he been 926 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: a negative? And this is one where I'm definitely I'm 927 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: admittedly influenced by the Pro Football Focus grades because I 928 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen load of La make a huge difference, especially 929 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: not the last year or two. And they've they've bury 930 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: him in their in their grades, and I'm thinking, like, 931 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: just because he's a first round pick and we know 932 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: his name, doesn't mean we have to rank him that high. Well, 933 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: he's I think his problem is he's made as many 934 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: impact plays in his typical season has Sheldon Richardson made 935 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: last season, which is not very many. Um, I want 936 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: to read my favorite blurb if you guys don't mind, 937 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: and um, we find it first and I'm really excited 938 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: to read it for me to just like start talking 939 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,959 Speaker 1: about Tarrell Pryor or something for a second. Troll Prior 940 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: in our top ten last year, by the way, took 941 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: a big, uh big dive down to thirty three. Although 942 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: that was higher than I think I had him or 943 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: that I thought he would go, ultimately generous. That feels 944 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: pretty generous. I think if we had in time will tell, 945 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: I think we ultimately were pretty high overall on some 946 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: very risky wide receivers that haven't produced in the last year. 947 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: Two him, John Brown, Donte Moncrief, guys who I feel 948 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: like if they were at other positions, maybe they wouldn't 949 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: have been ranked this side, but we've seen them be 950 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: difference makers, like Terrell Prior at quarterback. Not so yet, right, 951 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I wanted Terrell Prior higher. He's still the guy who 952 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: gave fits to a lot of really good cornerbacks in 953 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. Brown's one him back. It's a 954 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: mysterious free agency twist, but at number forty nine, Livesey 955 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: can I get something little sexy? I know which I 956 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: know which one is? Joshua Count, quarterback, Oh yeah, the 957 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: red flag injury risk entering his age thirty United season. 958 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 1: The Count is perhaps most valuable as a wet nurse, 959 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 1: talented but raw young Stallion West, And you can start 960 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: writing one after another, and all of a sudden, what 961 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: was happening in your world? You know? All right? Like 962 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: all right, these things are bleeding into I just gotta 963 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: like spice it up a little bit, West. I know 964 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: that spice is the right word. Yes, I know we 965 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: don't put our names on each one of these blurbs, 966 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: but that one deserved a little c W. Yeah it 967 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: would you? Would you object if I asked the editors 968 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: to just, you know, let everyone know that that was you. 969 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: I like it, and well, whether it's good or bad, 970 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 1: I will tell you it's stopped me in my tracks. 971 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: It's it. I mean, you know, when you read, immediately 972 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: the mind brings visuals and they're very disturbing. With this sentence, right, 973 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: get might get a little monotonous reading a hundred one blurbs. 974 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm thinking of the reader, throw a 975 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: little spice. Josh Town, father of like three young boys. Now, 976 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: Doubling is a wet nurse for a raw young stallion. 977 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: That is look that is a biggerative protection. He is 978 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: a you know, this is getting off topic, but if 979 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna make like a top ten list of NFL 980 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: players who just kind of have the look of a 981 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: guy that might be in a pay cable after one am, 982 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: where are you over there? I feel like Josh McCown 983 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: could have had. I think Josh McCown could have if 984 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: he weren't Josh McCown and he were like the seventh 985 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: biggest person on Madman with his hair, his jawline totally fay. 986 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: You see him like knocking on there and he's just 987 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: like delivery. Honestly, I see him the opposite direction. If 988 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: he wasn't an NFL quarterback, he would be the guy 989 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: with the acoustic guitar at the church, like playing music 990 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 1: for kids and stuff, no doubt about that, But that 991 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: that bleeds in his actual image. I think on some level, 992 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: shout out to Prince of Mukamara, who's ranked on the 993 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: list for the fourth straight year. Weirdly is but he's 994 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: a free agent. Every year he signs a one year contract. 995 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: He's solid and he ends up like in our top fifty, 996 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,479 Speaker 1: amiens up between thirty. Literally, why couldn't you just read 997 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: that blurb? That was one I liked your bluri. Let's 998 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: skip to the end of the list. You can check 999 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: out the whole list to get at NFL dot com, 1000 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: slash top three on Top one free Agents. I always 1001 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: like the end of the list. You have Frank Gore, 1002 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: The Inconvenient Truth sitting at one hundred and uh at 1003 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: one oh one, You've got a drum roll at one 1004 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: oh one. Always a lot of fun. Who gets put 1005 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: the final man? Usually it's a it's a bit of 1006 00:51:51,680 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: an in joke. J Color, congratulations Jay with we just 1007 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,919 Speaker 1: made a face like bile came up in his mouth. 1008 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: There was a discussion on Twitter in which Evan Silva 1009 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: was included, and he ranked him in his top thirty five. 1010 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: I believe yeah, big fish. His reason was if he 1011 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: gets signed. Silva's formula is I rank guys on what 1012 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: their average annual contract would be. That's a different and 1013 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: my retort to that would be the average annual contract 1014 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: of zero would still be zero. He doesn't belong on 1015 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: your list. Nobody's going to sign him. Jay's probably had 1016 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: him back to the booth maybe Jay, Yeah, back was 1017 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: he ever there? Well, you know he's agreement to go 1018 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: to the booth again. He is conference called, didn't he 1019 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: about his Yeah? The whole uh he maybe? Uh? I 1020 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: know he had to deal with Fox? Right? Is Fox 1021 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: doing Thursday football this year? They are? I think it's 1022 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Now if I could put a sandwich on 1023 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: Cutler Thursday nights, my aversion to Cutler on the field 1024 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: might not extend to the to the broadcast both. I mean, 1025 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: if he's good about the bat, let's let's put him on. Well, 1026 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: he at least deserves a completely clean if. I feel 1027 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: like it's a really a career, kind of a cherry 1028 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: on the Sunday here to get to the one. I 1029 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: feel like it was his whole career was kind of 1030 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: a preamble to this moment. I would rest in for this. 1031 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: I would agree that being ranked one of one is 1032 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: probably the highlight of his football. And you guys made 1033 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people happy. No Colin Kaepernick on this list. 1034 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: I hope you feel good about yourself. Well, it's funny 1035 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: you say that we, uh we overlooked him and he's 1036 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 1: gonna be on there. We have a lot of people 1037 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: were adding pell mcfee's coming on there. Kaepernick, Where did 1038 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: you rank McPhee before he utterly flamed out with the Bears. 1039 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: I think he was in his very hot or yeah, 1040 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: mcpheel being the eight. Kaepernick was seventies six last year 1041 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: and we kind of we just do the list based 1042 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: off players who were on teams last year. We kind 1043 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: of forgot about him. So I think he's gonna greg 1044 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: is La Garrett Blunt at ninety three simply as an 1045 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: act of anger out of you because he left your 1046 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: team and wiped your clean and he's a lead pipe 1047 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: block for a Lombardi three. I know you guys don't 1048 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: like ll Garrett Blunt, but to me, West and West 1049 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: had him a little higher than me, but he had 1050 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: him in the mid eighties, so they weren't They weren't 1051 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,479 Speaker 1: too off. Nobody signs him until July every year. Real quick, 1052 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't play you know third he yet? Real quick 1053 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: before I want to just check in with one more thing. 1054 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: What breaking news. The Cleveland Browns have claimed wide receiver 1055 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: Larry Pinkered Bio Waivers from Jacksonville. Pinkard six hundred ninety 1056 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: six pounds, entering his second season out of Old Dominion, 1057 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: originally signed as an undrafted free agent. You send back 1058 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: in son of a Bit. I thought something real happened 1059 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: to the Browns vastly just just wasted. That was real. 1060 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 1: That's from their official press release. In fact, I was 1061 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna ask Greg to give us one more uh player. 1062 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have time. Might have just 1063 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,399 Speaker 1: messed up five moment of show, but oh yeah, I'll 1064 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: be cool about it. Greg, Do you have one other 1065 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: guy who want to bring up from your top one 1066 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: on one? I'll bring up Paul Richardson because I think 1067 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: he and Mark Easley are two intriguing young receivers that 1068 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: are coming off of their best seasons and uh, I 1069 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: think could both make a lot of money this year. 1070 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: How about you? I am searching, all right, Paul Richardson 1071 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs book it. Uh. I just to circle 1072 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: back to last year's two thousand seventeen top ten. How 1073 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: that chuck out in terms of guys that made an 1074 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: impact or did not. The list that last year was 1075 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey at number one, Calais Campbell at two. Guy 1076 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: almost won defensive Brandon Williams, the defensive tackle UM UH 1077 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: that state in Baltimore three donta high tower at four 1078 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: injury wiped out his season. A J Bouyer Texans cornerback. UH. 1079 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: He signed the big deal with the Jaguars and did 1080 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: his things. Stephan Gilmore start off shaky in New England, 1081 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: good for and then had a big closed his year. 1082 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler UH signed with the Browns. How was Zeitler? 1083 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: Nothing really was good with the Browns last year. But 1084 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean Zeitler according to I don't judge right guards, 1085 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: but you know PFF, he had a nice mark. He 1086 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the issue they had. They had other issues. They 1087 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: did other issues above Kevin Zeitler number eight, here's the 1088 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: first miss. But what are you gonna do? Adrian Peterson, 1089 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: who I asked Greg downstairs? Is he on your current list? 1090 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: He's still under contract with the UH Cardinals. Was a 1091 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: two year deally signed with the Saints. He'll probably get cut. 1092 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: Will he find his way on your top one oh one? UH? 1093 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: If in one he has released, I would put him. 1094 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: I would definitely put him on. He had several games 1095 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: last year that told me he can still play. He 1096 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: is going to be thirty three next year, number nine 1097 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: al prior. Uh, so he dropped. That's my pick that 1098 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm doubling down on terrelle Per. I don't I 1099 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: think people are writing him off for a bad season. Uh, 1100 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: in in with with Washington, but I I thought he 1101 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: really played well with the Browns the year before. He 1102 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: was also, I mean, he was dealing with injuries all 1103 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: last season. My question with him might be more character driven. 1104 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: The fact that the Browns, for whatever reason, we're totally 1105 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: cool with letting him go and then signing Kenny Britt 1106 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: and then and Washington things going sideways as well. Well. 1107 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: They offered him money like he thought his value was 1108 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: gonna be much higher, and he was wrong. I think 1109 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: it's fair, it's fair to question some of that stuff. 1110 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: Dottery Poe was your number ten last year, and uh 1111 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: who's solid? He was solid for the Falcons. And I'm 1112 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: looking at the rest of the top twenty. Andrew Whitworthy 1113 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: had at seventeen. He was certainly a top five guy 1114 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So there you go. 1115 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: Check it out there. It is. How fun you guys 1116 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: did it again. Let's go upstairs, Let's go to the kitchen. 1117 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna cook something. Are you gonna let Mark have 1118 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: any little spinach tip? I don't even like spinach, will 1119 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: spin dip as they call it on the TJ Fridays. 1120 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: What did you have a brunch? I had a very 1121 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: nice had of pancakes and uh some some hash browns 1122 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: on the side. What did you have? Are you brito? 1123 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: I got the breed? You and my wife got the 1124 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: each started eating the wrong burrito. Yeah, it was. It 1125 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: was a moment we had. It was I did you 1126 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: take my burrito? I think I did. Born on the 1127 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: same day, in the same year. Do you want it back? Okay, 1128 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: this is so us so us I just missed you guys. 1129 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: That was at the Overland Cafe. Yes, that's where we were. 1130 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: Is that where you Yeah, that's where we were. Yeah, 1131 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: the Paramore and I went, but we didn't get there 1132 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: till about three because she had that place. Is funny 1133 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: because the reason we went is because they have the 1134 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: bottomless mimosas uh and uh. If you get there with 1135 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: your kids like we did, you have to get there 1136 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: early because your you know, kids are annoying. But then 1137 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: when you're in there and all of a sudden, it's 1138 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: ten thirty or so, all like the card. Actually clones 1139 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: start rolling in at their ubers and they're all they're 1140 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: all wearing ridiculous sunglasses and belly shirts and everybody's flying 1141 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: high looking to to get messed up. It's kind of 1142 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: a fun l a scene. There were multiple women posing 1143 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: against the side of the building when we well, no, 1144 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 1: that's that's the scene. But we had to be out 1145 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: of there by you know, kids give you got about 1146 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: maybe sixty two minutes tops with them. So that's that 1147 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: was essentially the meat of the event was we we 1148 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: poured back, if you glasses of champagne, one of the 1149 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: great societal uh curveballs. By the way, it's just like 1150 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 1: our little winks. It's like, yeah, you could drink champagne 1151 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: at nine am. Just drop a little orange juice in there. 1152 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: Society is fine with it. Our our household paid for it. Afterwards, 1153 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: dearly everyone fresh, all right. So we will be back 1154 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Yes, from Indianapolis. From the combine. We go there. 1155 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 1: We really we love covering the press conferences of the 1156 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: coaches and gms. That's why we're there. We're not there 1157 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: for the Underwear Olympics, so um, We'll do a show 1158 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: on Wednesday and then another show Thursday. Wasn't that where 1159 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Greg ended Steve Smith's panther's career? I was with a 1160 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: heat seeking question of Dave Gentleman. I wouldn't say I 1161 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: ended it, but uh, the accountable Greg sure it was 1162 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: the opening chapter of the end. Uh. So yes, make 1163 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: sure you tune in. It's gonna be a fun week 1164 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: for us. Uh. That's it. Dan Hanson signing off for 1165 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: a quiet storm. The mailman who delivered a stallion man 1166 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: own it. I liked it. I was a wet nurse 1167 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: baby the old boss of Lindsey Fulton behind the glass 1168 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: until Wednesday. When I worked at the grocery store, there 1169 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: was this redneck couple the the woman weighed about three 1170 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: d and the guy waged about one thirty and she 1171 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: used to beat him up and steal his paycheck every 1172 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,479 Speaker 1: other every two weeks,