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Thursday Night Football just ended? 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Fired up the microphone, Gonna dive into that boy TB twelve. 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be enjoying retirement here pretty soon because this 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: bad boy is over. We will dive into the game. 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff going on. Russell Wilson high knees, 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers talking some shit about his teammates. Howie Roseman 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: continues the wheel and deal. Um. Then we'll go through 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: some other nuggets as well as at John Middlecoff as 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those d M s. 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Older players 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: their career, their career ended and it didn't look great 60 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: because physically they couldn't do it. Anymore, right, And I 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: think we have recent examples, specifically in the NFL. Right, 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I think most famously, And it's weird because he won 63 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But that year that Peyton Manning won 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in two thousands sixteen, I guess it 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: happened in January or February and two seventeen. I went 66 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: to a game that year. I watched him play live 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: against the Oakland Raiders at the Coliseum, and a huge 68 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: story that week was he'd never thrown a pick against 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, and that game me through two interceptions. His 70 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: arm barely worked. Either the next week or maybe two 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: weeks later, he got benched. They claimed he was injured, 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: and brock Oswilder came in. He ended up playing at 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: the end and they won the Super Bowl. But Peyton Manning, 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: and I love Peyton Manning, I love Peyton Manning, was 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: a shell of himself. It was it was difficult to 76 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: watch unless you were like a chief for a Raider fan. 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: And then in recent examples, we have Drew Brees, we 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: have you know, Peyton's brother Eli, and Roethlisberger last year 79 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: who physically just implode. It happens in baseball. It happens 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: in basketball. And what's weird with watching Tom Brady is 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: physically like he's not falling apart, like he's never been 82 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: able to move. He can't run now up, he looks 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: his arm strength looks as good as ever, like he 84 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: looks like Tom Brady. Yet his team just sucks. And 85 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I get an arguments over and over and over her 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: again about middle cough. You just put Belichick on a pedestal. 87 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: You just think he's so great. It was all Tom Brady. 88 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm like now, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady were needed 89 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: for each other, and they excelled and exceeded basically in 90 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the history of the league. No one's ever gonna match that. Right, 91 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: six super Bowls they went to, nine, I don't know 92 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: how many a f C Championships they went to. They 93 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: kicked everyone's ass for two decades. It was a combination. 94 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Like in the NFL, I don't care how good you are. 95 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: You need a good coach, you need help, you need 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: good teammates, you need people around you. And what's happening 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: to Tom Brady is not like Peyton Manning, is not 98 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: like the year Eli Manning. Remember his street got ended 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: because they started Gino Smith. It's not like what we 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: saw with Roethlisberger. When Drew Brees physically still looks pretty good. 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: If you put Tom Brady right now in the Buffalo 102 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Bills or the Kancie Chiefs, you know they would win games. 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: He's not like some negative, but his team and his 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: head coach are completely overmatched. And I thought about this 105 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: like during the game. Now, I don't want credit for 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: this because I don't deserve credit for this, but I 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: did choose and pick the Carolina Panthers to win the 108 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: NFC South, and if they beat the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: they will be in first place. Now their coach got fired, 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: they're playing with P J. Walker, So I don't you know, 111 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: this is not how I envisioned it happening. But that 112 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: just shows you were Tampas like this division is a joke. 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: We kind of knew the division was a joke, but 114 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: we at least saw Tampa. I don't I don't know 115 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: about you, but I thought Tampa was an eleven win team. 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: They're three and five. I mean to get to ten 117 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: wins now they gotta go seven and two the rest 118 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: of the season. Is that a seven and two team 119 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: over a nine game stretch. I don't care who they're playing. 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't see it. That to me looks like a 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: seven and ten team at best. So Tom Brady, I 122 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: think we all agree, and it's kind of been reported 123 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: this is gonna be his last he's in the NFL. 124 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: He's clearly going through things off the field. And part 125 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: of the reason I picked Carolina was because I've known 126 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people that have got divorced, mainly like 127 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: my parents, friends, but I've actually had a few people 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: now you know, I'm thirty eight, that have got divorced 129 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: that are my age or a little bit older, and 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: they usually are way happier once it ends. But when 131 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: they're going through it, especially if they're you know, minimum 132 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: have a home, have some kids, like, it's a very 133 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: stressful time. Whether you're net Worth is worth a hundred 134 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: grand or like the Gizelle and tom Worth hundreds of millions. 135 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: It is a complicated situation. Even if you can't stand her, 136 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: it's a pain in the ass and there is a 137 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: stress level, and there is an energy suck, like an 138 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: energy vampire that is taken out of you. And that's 139 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: what I shorted, and it when you watch him it's 140 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: hard to be like he's they're struggling because of his 141 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: divorce or because of his off the field situation. But 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: like the left, which and we'll get into Arians here 143 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: in a second, think about this. They lost to the Packers, 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: they scored twelve points. They lost to the Steelers. They 145 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: called scored eight teen points. They lost to the Panthers. 146 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Last week they scored three points. They lost this week 147 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: they scored twenty two. But really the touchdown was under 148 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: two minutes, Like I'm not even counting that final touchdown, 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Like they are struggling to score points. And people thought, 150 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: and I listen, Tom is is liable and he olds 151 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: accountability for this? Did Bruce Arians? You know, it was 152 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: kind of the village idiot. He had kind of this 153 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll thing going like he had to go Bruce 154 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Arians was a plot problem, and I went, you know, 155 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: I I've never been around Bruce on a daily basis, 156 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: And listen, any human being can wear on you. And 157 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: obviously even Belichick war on Tom over the years, but 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: they were winning, so whatever, Arians clearly war on Tom. 159 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: And Tom was older and had him like Lebron James 160 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: type power in the organization, so he could force him out. 161 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: But when I went to the Wikipedia page, and I 162 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily need to do this because you know, I 163 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: follow the NFC West pretty closely, and the Arizona Cardinals sucked. 164 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean they were a joke and he got to 165 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: hear and all they did was win. His first year 166 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: was in the heyday of Harbor and Pete Carroll. They 167 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, but they went ten and six. 168 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: And the year before that when he took over for 169 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Chuck Panganod, when Chuck Piganald got cancer, that that was 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: a number that I had forgotten. As the interim coach, 171 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: he went nine and three. That was lux rookie year. 172 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: And you forget the reason they got Andrew Luck. They 173 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: drafted number one overall. Like Bruce Arians can coach? Is 174 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: he mr working twenty hours a day and super button 175 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: up on everything. No, but check Bruce arians record. I did. 176 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: It's eighty I think in in one like he's good. 177 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: He wins a lot of games. And that decision led 178 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: by Tom Brady because nobody he ever just randomly retires 179 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: like after free agency has been a disaster. And I've 180 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: said this over and over and over. This is not 181 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: a personal attack on any of these people. Uh, I've 182 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: met Todd Bowls. I've spent time with Todd Bowls. I 183 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: like Todd Bowls personally. He's clearly not a head coach. 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: They're overwhelmed, they are getting dramatically worse than previous years 185 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and just on the eye test, like it's just off 186 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: and we thought, well, Byron Leftwich, he'll just now he 187 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: has a lot more room. Bruce Arians won't be, you know, 188 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: looking over his shoulder, won't be forcing him to call plays. 189 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that's not a good thing. Maybe Bruce kinda knows 190 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: what he's doing. I watched the football life on Bruce Arians. 191 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Last time I checked Roethlisberger. Luck had a lot of 192 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: success with a lot of different quarterbacks. Hell, he went 193 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: seven and nine when Jamis Winston through like seventy five interceptions. 194 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes and listen, I don't blame Tom 195 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: because that's what he believed. We always think that when 196 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: we get a little juice, our ideas are the best ideas. 197 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: And I don't care how big your ego is, how 198 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: much success you have. Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, 199 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: let alone Bill Belichick. Not every single one of their 200 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: ideas is genius, and clearly this idea with Tom Brady 201 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: that the Tampa Bay would be better off with Bruce 202 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Arians out of there, it's just false. I mean we're 203 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: watching it play out in real time. There are three 204 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: and five. I say this all the time about Thursday 205 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: night games. You don't get style points. This is not 206 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: college football. No one cares if you're a good team 207 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: and you win by thirty or you win by one. 208 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: The only thing that matters is when you are the 209 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: home team on Thursday Night, especially as the season goes, 210 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: and we're now we're almost almost a Halloween. So basically, 211 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: to me, any time after like week three or four 212 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: till the end of Thursday Night football, if the home 213 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: team you just gotta win it get home that night, 214 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: it is a major success. Tampa kind of got their 215 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: ass kicked. And we'll get into Baltimore here in a second. 216 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: They're not exactly playing the oh seven Paths or Bears 217 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: or I mean, this Ravens team is probably like a 218 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: ten and seven pretty average squad, and let's face it, 219 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: they kind of separated from as that game went. So 220 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: this Tom Brady Bruce Arians force out Todd Bowls Byron 221 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: Leftwich in charge is a disaster. And in the history 222 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: of my life, most elite athletes, even elite quarterbacks, it 223 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: ends ugly. It ends ugly, right, only so many guys 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: go out on top, like John Elway. And this is 225 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: not ending ugly because Tom sucks like you watching me 226 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: looks like Tom Brady, but his team sucks. And I 227 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't do the math. But as Tom Brady once the 228 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: last time he had a losing record, I mean, I 229 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: don't think he ever has has Has Tom Brady ever 230 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: had a losing record? Definitely in the Patriots, right they 231 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, is basically a second year and 232 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm not counting his true rookie year. He wasn't starting quarterback. 233 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Since he became a starting quarterback. Second year? Did they 234 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: go nine and seven? They missed the playoffs? Eight and eight? 235 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they want seven and nine. I all he's done 236 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: is one. Even the year he tories a c L 237 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: and they missed the playoffs, they went eleven and five 238 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: with Matt Cassell, he goes to Tample. He's won a 239 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: couple of times, right, won the Super Bowl, and then 240 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: last year they lost in the second round to the 241 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: l A Rams. Tom Brady is about to go like 242 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: seven and ten. That's how his career is gonna end. 243 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Pretty fucking nuts when you really take a step back 244 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: and think about it for a guy that isn't some 245 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: shell of himself who you know, like, for example, the 246 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: forty Niners would die to have on their squad right now. 247 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you told me Tom Brady was a 248 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: quarterback for Kyle Shanahan and the forty Niners the rest 249 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: of the season, be like, oh, they'll make the playoffs easily. 250 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: His team sucks, but he kind of dictated the terms, 251 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: like sometimes you don't want to get in all than 252 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: certain things, and let's I don't necessarily blame Tom for 253 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: having his opinion, but on this one, his opinion and 254 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: his influence blew up in his face, which is which 255 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. And then on the flip side, 256 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore like, I'm watching this game. I actually just got 257 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: a text from a buddy in the league like I 258 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: love to see Tom Brady struggling. I think a lot 259 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: of people enjoy it. You know, when he kicks everyone's 260 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: asked for two decades. People are rooting for you to struggle. 261 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: And the Ravens is weird right there, five and three, 262 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I saw it come across 263 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: the ticker that Jamaar Chase, you know, hip injury. He's 264 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: out for a substantial amount of time like that. That 265 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: is a major, major blow to Joe Burrow. I thought 266 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: that Cincinnati, Joe Burrow, Jamaar Chase, they were really kind 267 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: of kind of gaining some swagger. They were, they were coming. 268 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: They look like an eleven twelve win team. You removed 269 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, let's just let's just pick a month, that's 270 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: best case, Like, that's a problem. Any game that Jamar 271 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Chase doesn't play for them is a major major blow 272 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. But is there a division any good? 273 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: The Browns suck, the Steelers suck. The Ravens in theory 274 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: should be like they're equal or the team you know, 275 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: battling with him to win the division. And obviously if 276 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: you remove Chase for let's just worst case scenario, say 277 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: it never comes back, that would be, yeah, they should 278 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: not win the division. But I watched the Ravens tonight 279 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: and and I I gotta be careful with making like 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: major judgments on a Thursday night game, especially a road team. 281 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: But are they any good my god, I watched them, 282 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I go, are they really that good? Their kickers unreal? 283 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: And al Michaels brought this up. He's like, Justin Tucker 284 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer. Well, yeah, no, ship, Justin 285 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: Tucker one million percent as a Hall of Famer. He 286 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: is not going to be the most accomplished kicker of 287 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: all time, right, Adam dun Terry will never be eclipsed. 288 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: But in no world is Adam dun Terry a more 289 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: talented player. And if you put Justin Tucker's entire career 290 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and then Peyton Manning and his prime 291 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: j you would have seen Adam Vintarry on steroids. So 292 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is their best player, but like, is the 293 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: Ravens second best player their kicker? Because I'm watching their 294 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: team going well, got some good running backs receiving, I'm 295 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: not really sure what's going on. I like Mark Andrews, 296 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: he got banged up. Their defense in theory should be 297 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, it's probably not as good as 298 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: it should be as it was under Wink martindale. Um. 299 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna end up winning ten or eleven games, but 300 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: they're not beating the Chiefs or the Bills. Like, it's 301 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: pretty clear the a f C is a two horse race, 302 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Bills. Who else is in their world? Now? 303 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: If you wanted to make the argument, if you were 304 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, like we played the Chiefs last year 305 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: at the Airhood and we meet him and we beat him, 306 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, you're right, Jamar Cha is gonna 307 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: be healthy, because Jamar Chase healthy. Then yeah, I'd give 308 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: you a fighting chance. You got Joe Burrow, you got 309 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: some talent to hang with one of those two teams, 310 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: if you got lightning in a bottle. But if you 311 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: tell me he is compromised, like, I'm sorry, And if 312 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: you tell me he's compromised, like you and the Ravens 313 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: are basically the same two teams that I don't view 314 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: close to his equals. We don't take the Charger seriously. 315 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: Uh you know who else do we take seriously? We 316 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: don't take the Titans, even though they're gonna win the 317 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: division seriously. So it's the a f C is the 318 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: Bills and the Chiefs, and then an enormous drop off 319 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: and then whoever the hell else makes the playoffs? Titans, Ravens, 320 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Bengals goal, Like, you guys are just kind of participants. 321 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: You're just there. And I had some people texting me. Actually, 322 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: one buddy's like, do you think there's a chance that 323 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson loses money on this contract? Because you watch 324 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: him to night you go, god, you know, somewhat hit 325 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: or miss. Now, part of it is their talent at 326 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver is you know, not great, even though tonight 327 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: they were like, Sean Jackson, he's been working out Sean Jackson, 328 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Like that's who you guys are kind of putting your 329 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: hopes on. Give me a break. But now, if Lamar 330 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Jackson at any moment in the off season and be like, 331 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm never playing for you again. If you don't pay 332 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: me two hundred million dollars, trade me someone to pay 333 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: him two hundred million dollars. There are so many teams 334 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: in need quarterbacks, and he's still very dynamic. His throwing 335 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: is a little hit or miss. It's not really debatable. 336 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: And when Mark Andrews is not in the game, and 337 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, you know, besides like obviously Kelsey then Kittle 338 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: Waller is nowhere to be found. Mark Andrews elite. But 339 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: when Mark Andrews is m I A. It is a major, 340 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: major red flag for Lamar Jackson. So he is not 341 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: like I like Lamar Jackson, and I was someone who 342 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: was not a fan. I support the guy because I 343 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: always support high level people, and I know a couple 344 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: of people with the Ravens. They fucking love him because 345 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: of the guy is because of his team, like first 346 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: just nature, the way his teammates gravitate tour. I'm a 347 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson fan. But he's got some flaws. He has 348 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: some serious flaws as a pastor, but he has a 349 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: fantastic football player and I like going a war with 350 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: football players. The problem if you put Lamar Jackson the 351 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: NFC and you'd have to go through the Staffords and 352 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: the Kyler's and the Docks, I'd go, Yeah, he could 353 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: beat any of them. He could win Jalen Hurts, He 354 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: could win the NFC. The problem in the a f C, 355 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: you gotta beat Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. And he 356 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: ain't doing it, and that team ain't doing it. They're 357 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: just not as good as I thought they would be. 358 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to be a power and 359 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: they're just simply not that. They're not even remotely as 360 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: good as I thought. I thought they honestly when the 361 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: seasons are to be a third team win team, and 362 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: this is a team that's probably gonna get to like 363 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: ten eleven. Levin Max uh that they definitely have some issues, 364 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: but listen, they are a consistent winner now, mainly because 365 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson. Football season is underway. 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Not gonna lie, but Russell Wilson, they 399 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: fly to London. You've all probably seen this by now. First, 400 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: he said a couple of weeks ago that he had 401 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: wolverine blood that he just heals faster. We all know 402 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: where we stand on Russell Wilson. The cheesiness now one thing. 403 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: I will defend him overall because I believe me personally, 404 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: I know it works as being an optimistic person, so 405 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: I his optimistic side. It's never really bothered me. It's 406 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: more the cheesiness. Now, I would imagine a lot of 407 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: people listening to this have never been to a press 408 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: conference like an NFL press conference, when a coach or 409 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback talks right typically just the big JA journals 410 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: and then randomly guys like me end up there every 411 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: once in a while. I've been to a lot of these, 412 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of times the comments that go viral 413 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily you know, It's not like they just um 414 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: impromptu start talking about it. A lot of times they're 415 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: asked about it because a reporter and typically the Big 416 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: Jay's have a story that they want to write about, 417 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: so they are trying to get an answer out of them. 418 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know. My guess is he was asked 419 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: about what he did on the plane, and obviously we've 420 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: all seen it from high knees. When I'm saying high knees, 421 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: I think he's not running. He's stretching as he's walking 422 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: down the hallway, pulling his knees. I the unlimited film 423 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: watching and yoga that he's doing on the plane when 424 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: literally everyone sleeps and listen. I was thinking a lot 425 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: about this, like when you first start a job, like 426 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking when I first got to the job 427 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: with the Eagles or first got the job in radio. 428 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: When you start at ground zero, you have to separate 429 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: from the pack. So you have to be early, stay late, 430 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: go above and beyond, do stuff you're not even asked 431 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: to do. Do stuff that definitely your salary or whatever 432 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: they're paying you does not equal part of the deal. 433 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: It's the way you separate, right. No different than like 434 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent at training camp. He has not 435 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: held to the same standard as like George Kittle or 436 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. If I want to make the team, I 437 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: better go above and beyond to impress people. That's just 438 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: basic knowledge. Right when you're trying to break in somewhere, 439 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: whether you're an NFL player, whether you're in finance, whether 440 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: you're in podcasting, whatever you're in, you have to you 441 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: uh go above and beyond. Not for money, you have 442 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: to impress the hierarchy of the company, of your bosses, 443 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: of the people you're working for. Welcome to capitalism now, 444 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: once you make it, once you become the head coach, 445 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: once you become the CEO, once you become the vice president, 446 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: once you become whatever, and being highly compensated. No one 447 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: cares what time you leave or what time you go home, 448 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: what time your alarm goes off, what time you do whatever. 449 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: The expectation is just that produce. So when I pay 450 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: a CEO, the company better boom. When I pay a 451 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: quarterback forty million, you better dominate. That's the price of admission. 452 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Like I would love to know paid Manning and Tom 453 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Brady's daily schedule. They don't go talking about it. Why 454 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: because they understand, like you don't get extra credit for 455 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: studying long Honestly, when you're the CEO, when you're the 456 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: head coach. When you're the head coach, you only get 457 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: shipped for not working hard. Why did everyone crush Kyler 458 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Murray when he got forty five million dollars? We go, Wait, 459 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get forty five million dollars to a guy 460 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: that we don't even know likes football and doesn't put 461 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: in the time. That's insane. The price of admission for 462 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: big boy jobs in this country, whether it's a starting quarterback, 463 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: whether it's a head coach, whether it's a CEO of 464 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: a bank, whatever, is be a grinder. You don't get 465 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: to work three hour days and play golf four days 466 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: a week. That ain't That ain't the job. And if 467 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: you do. I saw a funny tweet yesterday of Doc 468 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Rivers basically that how he plays golf every day. The 469 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: sixers are getting their ask kicked and everyone's making fun like, 470 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: is Doc Rivers really a grinder? And I'm a Doc 471 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: Rivers guy, but it is not going well. So Russell Wilson, 472 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's weird, like is he trying to brag? 473 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I I don't really care 474 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: that much about the whole Russell trying to figure him out. 475 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: I just know He's a little cheesy for my taste. 476 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: But when you start bragging about how hard you're working, 477 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: think about this. That entire plane is full of the 478 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: highest achiever at their profession. Like the coaching staff. Everyone 479 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the majority of coaches are grinders. Think 480 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: about the majority of players. Think about some of the 481 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: guys on that team. Specifically, you think Jerry Judy made 482 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: it in the NFL without being a grinder. Plan for Saban, 483 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: You think Patrick Surtan, who might be the best cornerback, 484 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: is just like showing up practice, going home, eaton McDonald's, 485 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: watching TV. Of course, not these guys are all grinding 486 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: yet on the plane, because that's what most people do 487 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: when they're flying to London. Is there snoozing, They're taking us, 488 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: They're taking a nap. So him basically saying that I'm 489 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: doing all this, the entire plane is knocked out. It's like, 490 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: how can anyone on that team take him seriously? If 491 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: every day Tom Brady bragged about how much harder he 492 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: was working than everyone on the Bucks or everyone on 493 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots, people would kind of zone him out. Of Course, 494 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: more than likely he is putting in more time than 495 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: everyone on the team. Maybe not this year, but historically, 496 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: same thing with Peyton, same thing with Drew Brees. They 497 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: don't talk about it. You notice head coaches Belichick, Andy, 498 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanion. They don't brag about 499 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: what time they get up. Guess what most of them 500 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: are getting up between like four thirty and five. They're 501 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: up while the masses are sound asleep, because it's just 502 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: part of the it's it's part of the expectation. It's 503 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: part of why they make fifteen million dollars. So one 504 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: problem for Russell Wilson, regardless of just the cheesiness and 505 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: the kind of the BS optimism, when things aren't going well, 506 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: when you start doing stuff like this, when you're not 507 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: playing good, This to me is when people tune you out. 508 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: Obviously the internet is making fun of him, but to me, 509 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: it's more about, like our his teammates gonna turn on him. 510 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: Like if I was a guard and I'm a starting 511 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: guard in the NFL for the Denver Broncos, and I'm 512 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: a solid player, and I do everything humanly possible to 513 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: keep my spot, keep making my three or four million dollars, 514 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: because it's an incredible job, and he just keeps talking 515 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: like this, I'd be like, I, I I just I can't 516 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: take you that seriously. And it's one thing if you're 517 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: really good at whatever you do, and I don't take 518 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: you seriously. If I'm a partner with you or I'm 519 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: in business with you, I know that I just have 520 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to deal with you because 521 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: you're in a in an indirect or a direct way 522 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna make me money and make me more successful. Well, 523 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right now has been a big reason they're 524 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: not being successful. Imagine all those guys on defense. Every 525 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: single week they're kicking the ship out of people. Last 526 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: week they just lost the game. Now, granted he didn't 527 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: play sixteen and nine, Like all they're doing on a 528 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: weekly basis is making place and they got this guy like, 529 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I I've been out on Russell. I'm not 530 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: a believer that he's gonna have some storming comeback, but 531 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I think this type stuff is I mean, legitimately, when 532 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: he starts jumping the shark on the flip side. Aaron Rodgers, 533 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: who you know a lot of people are giving a 534 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: lot of crap to because after the last game, he 535 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: crushed a lot of people. He said, people need to 536 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: figure it out. People, basically this is not verbatim, need 537 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: to work harder. People need to get focused the details. 538 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: And then he told McAfee when asked about himself that 539 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback coach told him last week against the Commanders 540 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: that he had the highest grade of the season. So 541 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: I understand when you say that everyone else needs to 542 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: get their ship together. And yet the coaches told me 543 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm playing as well as possible. I understand where people like, 544 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: give me a break, Aaron, And ideally, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, 545 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: I probably leave that part out, even though the entire 546 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: team knows the grades of the individual players. But my 547 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: take is on Aaron Rodgers what he said first and 548 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: foremost right or wrong. He makes fifty million dollars a 549 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: reason for a reason. He's the back to back m 550 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: VPS won't probably the best player in the history of 551 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: the franchise. He views himself as an equal with the 552 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff. Now, I know a lot of people think 553 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: that Matt Lafleur is not like he doesn't hold guys 554 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: accountable or I've seen some of that, Like Aaron had 555 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: to take the role that Matt won't take crushing guys publicly. 556 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know Matt Laflour personally, but I went 557 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: to a Tennessee Titans practice years ago. I was out 558 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: in Nashville for a bachelor party and I went a 559 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: week early because I was gonna play some golf, and 560 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, knowing John Robinson, I actually had him on 561 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: this podcast. And I went to a Titans O t 562 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: A practice and I'm pretty sure that was Rabel's first season, 563 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: and his offensive coordinator was La Fleur, who was coming 564 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: from the Rams, and I vividly remember La Floor Mariotta 565 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: was the quarterback. You know, Derrick Henry was on the team, 566 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, they had Corey Davis. He was lighting guys up. 567 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed. I'm not saying he was Bill 568 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: Parcels out there, but he was. He was getting into duce, 569 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: dropping F bomb, screaming and got I. I I came away, 570 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and you could never judge anyone strictly off a nonpadded practice, 571 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: but I thought his operation and in terms of his 572 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: intensity was pretty impressive. So just because a guy acts 573 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: one way between a you know, behind a microphone and 574 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: the way he's in front of his team. You never 575 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: know with that, But I believe that Aaron Rodgers use 576 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: himself like a coach and views himself like I think 577 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: he's desperate because they've been getting their ass kicked. They've 578 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: just lost to the Commanders, the Giants, and the Jets. 579 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, that's not ideal when you're the Green 580 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: Bay Packers and won thirty nine games the last three years, 581 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Like that's every single human alive, literally every single human alive, 582 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: including myself, picked them before the season. If you're gonna 583 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: go wins and losses. Even if you had the Packers 584 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: is like a ten win team, you would have picked 585 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: them to be the Jets. You would have picked them 586 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: to beat the Giants, and you definitely would have picked 587 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: them to beat the Commanders. And I think Rogers, probably 588 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: like the coaching staff, is worried that this season is 589 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: going to get away from So when he's crushing these 590 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: guys publicly, I would imagine he's tried to talk to 591 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: them one on one. He's tried to do stuff and 592 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: it ain't working. Like this notion that he's not a 593 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: good leader, he's a bad leader, I don't know. I've 594 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: never spent time around him in a football building. But 595 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: I do think he the last couple of years, it 596 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: seems like he's true. I had to be a better 597 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: teammate and it worked. And now that they're not having success, 598 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: Like if your fastball is not working and you're a 599 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: fastball pitcher, like eventually you gotta throw a slider or 600 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: a change up. And I think that's what he's trying 601 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: to do, because, let's face it, they get their ask 602 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: kick this week in Buffalo, which they're an enormous favorite, 603 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: the biggest or an enormous underdog, the biggest underdog of 604 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers career, Like this guy hasn't been playing in 605 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: the league for five years. This guy has been the 606 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: starter since oh eight. It's a long fucking time, biggest 607 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: underdog of his career. Now, granted he's played on a 608 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of good teams. I thought this team was gonna 609 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: be pretty solid. It clearly is not. And now they're 610 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: in some trouble and sometimes, like I said, you're fastballing 611 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: up not working, and then all of a sudden you 612 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: throw a change Like what else you gonna do? This 613 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: is a pitch that he's probably not used to throwing. 614 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: He's usually not publicly crushing guys. You can say he's passive, 615 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: aggressive or what, but I think he's all out of 616 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, ideas, and this is kind of like a 617 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: last ditch Hail Mary. And then there's Howie Roseman, who 618 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: just made a trade to acquire Quinn the pass rusher 619 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: from from the Chicago Bears who've been on the l 620 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: a ramp. A good player. I mean, this guy, he's 621 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: not having a great season, but obviously the Bears someone 622 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: in shambles. And what really stuck out to me is, 623 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: I was I heard this quote the other day a 624 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on the All In podcast. It's 625 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: the podcast with the four venture capitalists. They talk a 626 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: lot of business, a lot of politics, a lot of 627 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: different stuff, and they're all, you know, some of them 628 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: are richer than others. I mean, I would imagine the 629 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: minimum net worth of the lowest net worth of the 630 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: individual on the podcast like five million dollars. They're all 631 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: really successful guys. And he had this quote one of 632 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: them that said fortunes are made in recessions and collected 633 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: in the booms. And I started thinking, like, it's it's 634 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: well known, right, most people they buy cheap and then 635 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: they sell high. Right, But when you really just take 636 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: a step back, like a lot of money people got 637 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: rich in oh seven and oh eight, Why we fucking 638 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: bottomed out? What happens when things bottom out, stocks, real 639 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: estate companies, whatever, I get to buy it for cheaper. Well, eventually, 640 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: more than likely a lot of things go back up. 641 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: So when times are really bad, if you make good decisions, 642 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: whatever your profession is, that's where you really benefit five 643 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: ten years in the future. But no one wants to 644 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: do that. It's why I like, in two thousand fifteen, 645 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: there were a million people like I should have bought this, 646 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: I should have done that. Well, the world's full of 647 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: what it could have shoot us. There are only so 648 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: many doers, right. Tony Robbins always has the quote Wall 649 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Street is the one place in America when things go 650 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: on sale, people run. And I think the Eagles are 651 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: a great example of that. Fucking thing could have blown 652 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: up and it was right in front of our eyes. 653 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: They had drafted Carson Wentz number two overall, and then 654 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: they had doubled down and they invested so much money 655 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: into him, and it started going off the rails. They 656 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: benched them. But guess what happens. When they benched them 657 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: six months previously they had drafted a quarterback in the 658 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: second round. We all thought they were nuts, were like, 659 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Probably the smartest thing they had 660 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: ever done. And then when they got really crappy, how 661 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: he was constantly making moves, like two years ago when 662 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: he traded from pick six to twelve to acquire a 663 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: first round pick, and that he ended up getting Davonte Smith. 664 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: And then he did it again last year when he 665 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: made a trade with the Saints, who now looked like 666 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: they might be drafting in the top five. And as 667 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: things were getting crappy, he was making moves like trading back, 668 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: acquiring future first round picks, getting Davonte Smith, getting Landon Dickerson, 669 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, signing guys, or trading for Darius Lay, making 670 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: a trade last year for a j. Brown. But the 671 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: reason he was in position with that stuff is because 672 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: when things got ugly in like nineteen and twenty, he 673 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: didn't just blow the thing up. He pivoted and made 674 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: long term moves, and long term in the NFL is 675 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: like two or three years. And now they are really 676 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: reaping the benefits. And now, like how he bought low 677 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: in the recession, he made a bunch of smart moves, 678 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: and then a couple of years later his team's fucking undefeated, 679 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: absolutely stocked, and they're not looking for three or four pieces, 680 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: they're just missing a piece or two. So you trade 681 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, which, let's face it means nothing 682 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: to the Eagles right now to get a pass rusher 683 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: who could be the difference in you winning the division, 684 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: you getting over the top, you're winning. You being a 685 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: fifteen and two number one seed that is gonna be very, 686 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: very tough to beat. And they're in position right now 687 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: most teams, and I wouldn't have blamed them at all 688 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: had just tried to bottom out. And listen, I've known 689 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Howie for a long time, but I just know the 690 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: ethos of that organization is not to truly suck. That 691 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: they're not into like bottoming out. Now, you could argue, well, 692 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: what happened that last game when they brought in Sudfeld. Well, yeah, 693 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: that was week seventeen or eighteen whatever. I guess it 694 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: would have been seventeen, three years ago, right, But like, 695 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: they never go into a season like we'll just really 696 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: suck and hope to get a victor Wembiama like that, 697 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: that's just not how they inc They're always thinking about 698 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: adding sweet players. And the Carson Wentz thing is the 699 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: greatest example because imagine that they traded that guy for 700 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: a first round pick. Think about the difference between them 701 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: and the Colts. The culture always caught in no man's 702 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: land when it comes to quarterbacks. Always it's just like 703 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: they they're desperate. They actually got kind of lucky the 704 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: year Philip Rivers was available, and then they make the 705 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: trade for Carson Wentz that's blown up in their face. 706 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: Then they make the trade for Matt Ryan that blows 707 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: up in their face. Eagles boom, just drafted guy in 708 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: the second round, replaces the guy that they drafted number 709 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,959 Speaker 1: two overall as they were building pieces around on their team. 710 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: So then when Jalen Hurts actually hits, and don't get 711 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: me wrong, I never thought he would, but he kind 712 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: of did. Now their team sweet and they look like, 713 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, fourteen win type squad. It's 714 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: because when things got ugly, he kept making moves and 715 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: now he's really reaping the benefits. A couple of other thoughts. 716 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: The Chiefs uh trade for the Tony the wide receiver 717 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: from the New York Giants who was a very very 718 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: questionable UH draft pick when Dave Gettleman made it, I 719 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: think he took him twentie overall. Um. Now, that trade 720 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: ultimately led them to having multiple picks because remember they 721 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: went from eleven to twenty with the trade with the 722 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. That netted the Bears justin fields. But this 723 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: kid has been a major bus for the for New York. 724 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: One thing he gives them. The Chiefs now his character also, 725 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: like you know, this is where when you have a 726 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: high level organization led by really strong, good people like 727 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs their two team captains or Travis Kelsey and 728 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, like what are you gonna do? Come in 729 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: there and act act like a slaptick like that ain't that? 730 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: Ain't happen. It's much easier with the Giants, who have 731 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: been losing the last couple of years for a questionable 732 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: character guy to act that or not shape in. It's 733 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: impossible when you're a low level guy to survive with 734 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: high level guys. They will eat you alive. If you're 735 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: a low level guy and you go to the Golden 736 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: State Warriors, either shape in or they get rid of you. 737 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: If you're a low level guy, you go to the 738 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: Kandasy Chiefs either shape in to get rid of you. 739 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, they paid not nothing right a conditional third 740 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: round pick. This guy is a big time talent and 741 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: he can really stretch the field. And when he watched 742 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: the Kansas Chiefs and I watched every snap they played 743 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: last week, that's really kind of what they're lacking this 744 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: Poteco kid. They're running back pretty damn good. Their screen 745 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: game with all their other running backs always gonna be awesome. 746 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: Kelsey best tight end the league, Juju been sweet for them, 747 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: but they just don't have a guy who truly pushes 748 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: with a speed element down the field. So this is 749 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: worth the worth the risk. And Andy has a long 750 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: history of of dealing with these type guys, and like 751 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: I said, like, what's he gonna do? Act like an idiot, 752 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: They'll just get rid of him. Uh mac Jones, I 753 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: I was shocked to see all the reaction that uh 754 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: did like Bill did wrong by mac Jones? Honestly, like 755 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: who the fuck is Mac Jones? Just because he was 756 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: drafted fift Overall he has not played well. He didn't 757 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: play well at the end of last year and this 758 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: year when he's in on the field, he has been awful. 759 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: So last week when he threw that interception, Now it 760 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: might have hit the rope right that's holding the camera. 761 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: Even if it didn't hit the it's not a rope, 762 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: it's a it's a wire. Whatever, Like, what are you doing, Max, 763 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: scrambling around like you're Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes, your 764 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: Kirk cousins. Bro play within the pocket, throw the ball away, 765 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: take a fucking sack. You're not Lamar Jackson. So when 766 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: he went to the bullpen, everyone's like, why is he 767 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: yanking around quarterbacks? Like I've said, he's dealing with two 768 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks? Now, is Mac betteran Bailey? More than likely? Yes, right, 769 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: one guy Alabama, the other guy Western Kentucky. You know 770 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: I would bet just in a vacuum if they all 771 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: went to all thirty two teams. Mac Jones more than 772 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: likely would turn out to be the better player, though 773 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: you know who knows. But I have no problem with 774 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: going to the bullpen, and I would I would look 775 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: forward it again if I'm in a tight game against 776 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: the Jets who just lost their star running back and 777 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: their star off of lineman, and it's ten to ten 778 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: and Mac is not playing well, I would go to 779 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: the bullpen without hesitation, and you can go, well, John, 780 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: if you got two quarterbacks, you don't have one, well, 781 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: you have no ship. They got two quarterbacks. They unless 782 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: Mac Jones gets his swagger back, which I would argue 783 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: never really had. Like they do have two quarterbacks. They 784 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: got two backup ones and you just ultimately got to 785 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: pick the best one and figured out on the fly. 786 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: And if Mac's gonna play bad, I support Belichick for 787 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: I also got a d M. And I get some 788 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: sometimes like that Belichick's really overrated, And I go, he 789 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: won eleven games with Mac Jones. And someone hit me 790 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: back up, like, look who he beat. I don't care 791 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: who he beats. How many coaches in the NFL. Now, granted, 792 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: you can question his ability as a GM. His roster 793 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: is not great and he's the guy picking all the players. 794 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: But last year with that roster to win eleven games, 795 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: how many coaches? Good Andy read John Payton that that 796 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: might be it at Belichick's big time and he's probably 797 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna win nine or ten this year with Mac 798 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Jones and Billy's and Bailey's happy I'm sorry, it's pretty impressive. 799 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: Is he more important than to? Like, obviously Tom is 800 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: not replaceable, but let's not act like Tom didn't benefit 801 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: from Bill to I just I think too many people 802 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: love just Bearing Belichick. Now that Tom's gone, Like this, 803 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: Dore's build up some faults. Is he? Is he a 804 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: negative Nancy and a miserable prick a lot of the times? 805 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: For sure? Does the guy you know, one of the 806 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: best coaches we've ever seen any sport? And I would 807 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: argue the best NFL coach. I listen, I feel pretty 808 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: good about my stance on that Ryan Tannehills banged up, 809 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: hasn't been practicing all week. Be pretty interesting if Malik 810 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: Willis plays um for the Titans. You know, this is 811 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: why you know you draft guys in the middle rounds, 812 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: the third, four, fifth round, Like, look at Bailey's appy. 813 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: What if the Patriots had not drafted Bailey's appy, maybe 814 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: playing with Brian Hoyer. Who the hell wants to see 815 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer play? Uh? So, props to Robinson and and 816 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: Breyable for drafting this guy, because otherwise they just have 817 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: some random scrub backup that you'd be trying to replace 818 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: the end of the year anyway. And last but not least, 819 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have all seen the story and uh, 820 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Ellen officially bought Twitter and it went viral. 821 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: Of the Twitter employees with this list of all these demands, 822 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: It's like, guys, your stock has been a dog for 823 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: a decade, Your companies in fucking shambles. If anything, you 824 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: should just stay quiet, try to impress the guy. But 825 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: one of the things in the document the Twitter employee 826 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: said was they want to keep working from home. Well, 827 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: of course you do, but what if Ellen wants you 828 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: to come into the office, your aspt or be in 829 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: the office. Not everyone gets to operate on the save 830 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: wave length. If Tom Brady wants to take eleven days 831 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: off during training camp, is it weird? Yes? But if 832 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady wants to do you know who you say? 833 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: Do you know what you say? If you're the head 834 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: coach at the gym, see you in twelve days, Tom, 835 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: have a good break, right Like not everyone gets to 836 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 1: operate from the same standards. So Elijah Moore, the wide 837 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: receiver from the Jets, who from all accounts I remember 838 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: texting with someone with the Jets last year. They're like 839 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: he's a really good player. We love the guy, he's 840 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: a high level guy. Then this year he starts bitching 841 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: and moaning about his targets. Well, Elijah, you guys are 842 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: throwing for a hundred yards a game, so no one's 843 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: really getting any targets. And two for him to demand 844 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: a trade reminded me a little bit of the Twitter employees, 845 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: Like if Justin Jefferson wants to demand a trade, If 846 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: if DeVante Adams wants to demand a trade, okay, you 847 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: know if Tyree kills like, you gotta trade me if 848 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay me, I get it. Like, Elijah, 849 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: more news for you, No one gives a flying funk 850 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: what you think. Like, just do work starts at five 851 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: thirty or six or eight or whatever on Monday. We'll 852 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: see you there, like it. Stop demanding trades, Like who 853 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: do you think you are? That's this lost sense sometimes 854 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: guys have, Like I just don't get it just because 855 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: you see like NBA players on Twitter demanding trades Like 856 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: Twitter employee, like you don't get just work from home forever. Well, 857 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: if the company wants you to show up, you show 858 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: up or else you're not making three grand anymore. Doing nothing, 859 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: Like Elijah, You're getting paid a decent amount of money 860 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: being a high second round pick, like you got to 861 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: prove something no one's seen you really do anything, So 862 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: to a man to trade. Honestly, I thought that was 863 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing in a pretty terrible look. And props to 864 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: the Jets for telling you, like, yeah, broh practices at Tuesday, 865 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: be there be square buddy, talk to you later. Uh So, 866 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are really making strides, are becoming 867 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a higher level organization. But some 868 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, not every trade demand is equal. 869 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: You know, it's just not makes you laugh. Here with 870 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: my main man, Stucky, who you know, I don't want 871 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: to say, got screwed in the Giants Jacksonville game, but 872 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: you know it took a took a goal line stop 873 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: or he would have won that bad boy. So he's 874 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: fifteen and eleven. You can find him on the Action 875 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: Network Action Network podcast on Thursday's Big Bets on Campus. 876 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: Find him on Twitter, tweeting NonStop over the weekend Gambling Extraordinaire. 877 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: Fifteen and eleven, um, and uh, how are you feeling, Stucky? Good? 878 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: It was my first bad weekend of the season. Uh, 879 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: that will happen. It's been a good year, but it's 880 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. Who cares. Is a week to week league, 881 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: just and it's just like it's a week week league playing, 882 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: it's a weekly league betting, and it's onto the next 883 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: Actually was more mad about I know it was more 884 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: Giants magic in the fourth quarter, but actually was more 885 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: mad about losing to Zack Wilson on the road, who 886 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: had one of the worst offensive games of the season. 887 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: I think the Jets at ten first downs, like two 888 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: hundred total yards, they did nothing. They had one run 889 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: briest Roll broke run, but Brieft Hall got hurt. They 890 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: had an offense limb get and I trusted Brett Rippon 891 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: and I probably shouldn't have. Um Jet special teams were 892 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: really good. Brett Rippon made the key mistake. Zach Wilson didn't, 893 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: although he tried to throw the ball like in the 894 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: air that Denver returned for a touchdown that got reviewed. 895 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, I shouldn't have trusted Brett Rippon. But it's 896 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: on the weekgate and uh, we're getting into the heart 897 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: or the NFL season. It's going to be fun. The 898 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: NFC is a dumpster fire. You could have I think 899 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: I tweeted out yes, so you could have by the 900 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: end of this weekend. Unlikely, but it could happen. The 901 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: Panthers could be in sole possession of first place, the Vikings, 902 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: the Giants, I mean, and the Seahawks, Like what is 903 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: going on in the n s A. It's for wild times. 904 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. You know you sent me your 905 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: three games this week that uh the old Zappie mac 906 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: Jones Belichick combo. You're not hammering them this weekend against 907 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: the Jets because the Jets obviously they've won five games 908 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: and we've gone over. I mean, the quarterbacks are beating 909 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: at another one of the list Brent Rippon, which I 910 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: would imagine most people listening unless you watch that and 911 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: they talked about it, could not tell you where he 912 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: went to college. But the Jets, like, obviously they got 913 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: some talented players. I mean, they just lost two of 914 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: their best players and literally the way they the only 915 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: way they can win is by him throwing you know, 916 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: around a hundred yards, not turning the ball over and 917 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: running the football and obviously playing defense. Now their defense 918 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: still gonna be solid, but lose Bruce Hall, who is 919 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: a star star would be strong. But I mean he 920 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: had a chance to be in an offensive lineman. Who's 921 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: the fucking stud I mean, that's that is a major blow. 922 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are fucked and I love the Patriots. 923 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: This weekend, yeah, I played the Patriots. They just they 924 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: I mean I just didn't include him in my three 925 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 1: from the show. But yeah, they would have been next. 926 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: Um they've won twelve straight in the the series. Bellichick owns 927 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: the Jets, but you get you get nervous with the 928 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: quarterback situation, with the Zappie mac Jones thing going. Yeah, 929 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: it makes you a little nervous, like who's taking all 930 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: the reps? And and if Matt Jones starts like he's 931 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, Zappy's He played two of the where I 932 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: have a huge Zappy Guy've been a huge Zapicots since 933 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 1: Houston Baptist days. But he's still a rookie. He's gonna 934 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: have some struggles. He got to play two of the 935 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: worst defenses in the NFL. He's gonna have some struggles. 936 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 1: And the mac Jones I expect to get his job back, 937 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: um or at least, you know, get a shot at it. 938 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: He's gonna have some rust and he didn't really get 939 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: to played Mutch last week and he's been out for 940 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: a while, so but yeah, this is why I played 941 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots here. Zack Wilson has been hard. That all 942 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: the Jets have done is beat backup quarterbacks, third string quarterbacks. 943 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: Like the only two real teams at a faced where 944 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Bengals, and they got blown out 945 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 1: in both. Zach Wilson's out thirty five out of thirty 946 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: six six quarterbacks in the NFL. If you look at 947 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: like e p A completion percentage over expectation composite, only 948 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has been worse this year, and he's horrible. 949 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: And I'll give you a stat if you're looking for 950 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: a reason about the Patriots here under a field goal Belichick, 951 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: and this is the only other times I've bet the 952 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: Patriots this year and it's worked, so it's not just 953 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: a Brady stat. Belicheck is thirty nine seven and one 954 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: against the spread after a loss as a dog or 955 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: a favorite of under a touchdown. That's eighty four point 956 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: one on the road. So if he's on the road 957 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: after a straight up loss, he's twenty six three and 958 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: one against the spread as either an underdog or favorite 959 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: under a touchdown. That's eighty nine point seven percent, covering 960 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: by ten points per game two and oh this year 961 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: in that spot, Yeah, I think the Roberts all Zack 962 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: Wilson magic is gonna come, uh come to a screeching hall. Okay, 963 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: let's dive into the weekend slate. Uh. You know the Lions, 964 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: who I was very bullish on and ship it might 965 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: have been hard knocks. I don't know. You watch him 966 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: and just obviously something's off golf. You know, at any moment, 967 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: you can just throw the ball to the other team. 968 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: Their defense, who actually played pretty well for large percentage 969 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: of that game against Cowboys. Uh, was not the problem, 970 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: but has been the problem. Uh, Miami coming in, I 971 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: mean they're they're a big dog at home. Now he 972 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: did get your classic, like the owner, did you see 973 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: come out and support Dan Campbell? Which is always a positive. Uh, 974 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't know. I have zero trust 975 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: into a though. Like I I've said over and over, 976 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: I've been shocked by how hard Tyreek is playing waddles 977 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: of stud They do have good players, but it seems 978 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: like the Dolphins are losing a lot of players on defense. 979 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe this is uh the time Detroit gets 980 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: a win. Should I? I guess I would lean Detroit. 981 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: I I probably would not touch this game. How about you? Yeah, 982 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: I played the lines since I could get three and 983 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: a half. Anything over three I think is a good 984 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: play here. I think the market has finally fallen out 985 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: of love with the lines. But if you dig a little, 986 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: you know deeper. Earlier in the year, they lost by 987 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: three at home to Philly, and they scored a little late, 988 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: but they you know, they beat They put up thirty 989 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: five in that game. They put up thirty six at 990 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: home against Washington to win. The next week, they should 991 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: have one at Minnesota the Father they lose on too 992 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: late touchdowns. Then they play Seattle at home, lose five. 993 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: That doesn't look as bad now, but they again, they 994 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: put up forty five points. They go on the road 995 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: to New England at bad spot Jared Gough outdoor has 996 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: always been bad, and they get blown out. Then they 997 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: have a bye. They come back, their defense looks a 998 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: lot better, and they started playing a couple of rookies. Um, 999 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: they put Josh Pascal in this Kirby Joseph at safety's 1000 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: playing well, Malcolm Rodriguez a linebacker, Hutchinson has best day 1001 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: as a pro, and then Akuda did as well at corner. 1002 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: So I think their defense might be trending up a 1003 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: little bit. But that game, that game was closer in 1004 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: the final score too. I mean, go was can to 1005 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: take the lead in the beginning of the fourth quarter 1006 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: first and goal at the one fumbles the ball despite 1007 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, losing the turnover, but I think five nothing 1008 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: the yards was even in that game. They still have 1009 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: a great offensive line. And guess what the past couple 1010 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: of weeks, Detroit has been playing without DeAndre Swift and 1011 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: a mom Ras st Brown. They're two most important players 1012 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: on offense. Last week Swift was out, He's in this 1013 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: week and st Brown was ruled out. He was spotted 1014 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: for a concussion, which he ultimately didn't have in the 1015 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: on the first series, so he went out for the game. 1016 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: That's a massive loss. So they'll have their full strength 1017 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: offense are close to it, their most important players playing here, 1018 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: and then you have a really good offensive line against 1019 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: the Miami secondary that's decimated by injury. I mean Byron 1020 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: Jones on the pup list, Nick need Um Trull Williams, 1021 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Jones. Their fourth and fifth corners are hurt, Xavier 1022 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 1: On Howard's playing hurt. It's just a mess. So I 1023 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: think that golf at home with this full compliment of 1024 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: weapons can move the ball as the lines have done 1025 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: at home all season when they've had Brown and uh Swift. 1026 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 1: And then if you look at the Dolphins offense, it's like, 1027 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, yes, I love the additions of Wattle and Hill, 1028 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: what they've what they're doing this offense, but they've in 1029 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 1: four or five two is starts, they haven't surpassed twenty 1030 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: one total points. There's you know, they had that explosion 1031 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter gets the Ravens, but there's something just 1032 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: still off. And I'm not as big of a believer 1033 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: as some in too as you are as well. So yeah, 1034 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: I think this is a good spot to get the 1035 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: lines when everyone's kind of selling them at home, and 1036 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: they get their most important pieces back, and I think 1037 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: their defense is gonna be trending up a little bit 1038 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: with these young pieces getting in playing time. You're right, 1039 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 1: if you just watch like a series, you know most 1040 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: are flying around Tyreek waddle. They look better than the 1041 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: overall result. Of It's not like they're averaging thirty points 1042 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 1: a game. You know, they struggled to get twenty plus. 1043 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: Uh you know you sent me Arizona Minnesota, and I 1044 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: was just it just hit me. Usually when you come 1045 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: off of by, a big advantage you have is getting 1046 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: a team that just played the previous week. Arizona played 1047 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday, So that's kind of that mini by which 1048 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: is you know, and on top of that, they you know, 1049 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's their best probably their best player, 1050 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins back off suspension, so he gets, you know, 1051 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: another week to acclimate in Minnesota. Secondary stinks. I mean, 1052 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: they haven't been good now in years. And listen, I 1053 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: am not a Kyler guy, but like fucking you give 1054 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: him Hopkins. He he does look kind of like a 1055 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, a much more explosive I don't know if 1056 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: he's quite a forty five million dollar player with Hopkins, 1057 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: but he's he's much better and he's much scarier to 1058 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: play that. They are just kind of built too to 1059 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: play inside. I mean, this is I thought I wouldn't 1060 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: like this game, but uh yeah, I'm I'm Arizona plus 1061 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 1: three and a half. I guess would would be would 1062 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: be my side. Yeah, P three like anything over a field? 1063 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: Ah here I like, And you're right, Minnesota's coming off 1064 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: of by. For what it's worth, Cousins has been bad 1065 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: off buys and off sender rest his whole career, maybe 1066 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: meeting less. But do you think that's do you think 1067 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: that's an unfair advantage when you're coming off of buy 1068 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: and you get the team that just play a Thursday 1069 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: night games, especially at home. And for what it's worth, 1070 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: this is Cliff Kingsbury on the road. His as an 1071 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: underdog is fifteen three and two against the spread. It's 1072 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: eighty three percent. He's won eight straight outright on the 1073 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: road as an underdog. I don't know if like they 1074 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,280 Speaker 1: just are distracted at home and they just don't aren't organized. 1075 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what is going on, but they're awful 1076 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: at home generally speaking, and very good on the road 1077 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: as an underdog. They've won eight straight out right as 1078 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: an underdog. And yeah, you mentioned it with Hopkins. Mary's 1079 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: nine and two with Hopkins completing seventy one of his passes, 1080 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns, nine picks, two and seventy five yards per game. 1081 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: Without him, he's three and seven sixty eleven touchdowns, six picks, 1082 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: only two thirty yards per game. The most telling stat 1083 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: is overall with their out Mary with Hopkins in the game, 1084 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: they have averaged twenty seven points in twenty seven games 1085 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: with Hopkins in third team without him eighteen. It's almost 1086 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: a ten point drop off. You saw the different teammates back. Yeah, 1087 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: he just opens up the offenses at trustworthy third down target. 1088 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: And you know, his first game back ten catches a 1089 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: hundred yards first time all season, Mary had a passer 1090 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: rating over a hundred and Yeah. The Arizona defense also, 1091 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: their metrics, I think in the market are a little 1092 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: deflated because of that first game when they played the Chiefs, 1093 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 1: who are you know, a juggernaut offense. But they also 1094 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: the Arizona defense was depleted by injuries. They were missing 1095 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: I think five or six starters if you from week 1096 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 1: two on. You know, overall in the season, the twenty 1097 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: EPA pri play on defense if from week too on 1098 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: their ninth so they've been a top ten defense. I 1099 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: think they're not a great defense, but their defense is 1100 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: not as bad as some of the metrics suggests. And 1101 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are a paper tiger. I mean 1102 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: they're five and one, but they should have lost to 1103 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: the lines. I mentioned dead even game. They the Saints, 1104 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: you know with their backups in London, dead even game. Um, 1105 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: the Bears one another one possession win, dead even game, 1106 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: five point eight yards per play each way. And then 1107 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: Miami they get out gained four hundred and fifty eight 1108 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: to two thirty four. They the Dolphins with their backup 1109 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: and third string average six and a half yards per play. 1110 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: The Vikings average four and a half. I mean they 1111 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: got three turnovers and a hundred penalty yards from the Dolphins. 1112 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: So this team has been you know, beating you know, 1113 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: some backup quarterbacks. They've been very fortunate in one possession games. Yeah, Saints, Lions, Dolphins, 1114 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: and Bears, and the Dolphins are that's their wins, their 1115 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: last four wins. So I think the Vikings are vulnerable here. 1116 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: Their defense, as you said, can be exploited. I think Arizona, well, 1117 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: this is the spot to back Cliff Road Dog Hopkins 1118 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: back in the lineup. And it's still in the first 1119 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: half of the year before Arizona falls off a cliff 1120 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: in like weeks ten through seventeen as they always do. Okay, Well, 1121 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: if we had a draft. At the beginning of the season, 1122 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs hosting the Bills would have been 1123 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: the number one game of the year. This game probably 1124 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: would have been in the discussion to be number two. 1125 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: Packers at Buffalo. Uh, your king and you just know 1126 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: the ship to look aheadlines. I mean, it's it's enormous. 1127 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you know, week one that the lines 1128 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: for the season, this line is probably like minus four 1129 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 1: minus five. Yeah, so uh right now obviously it's it's 1130 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: it's eleven eleven and a half. I mean, who knows 1131 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: by the time kickoff? This to me, I was thinking 1132 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: today this morning that remember, now it's different because their 1133 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: team was better and Davonte was on it even though 1134 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: he didn't play this game. But last year that Thursday 1135 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: night game when they played Arizona in Arizona, I think 1136 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: was undefeated at the time maybe or maybe they're eight 1137 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: and one and it was just your classic, like no 1138 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: one thought the Packers were gonna win. Now, this one's 1139 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: a little different because the Packers beginning their ass kicked 1140 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: week after a week like which is their squad, but 1141 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: does feel like eventually just kind of draw the line 1142 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: in the sand, like it kind of hit me this morning. 1143 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: Would it be the craziest thing if Monday morning comes 1144 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, the Packers upset the Bills. 1145 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: Bills by week kind of take their eye up the 1146 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: price a little bit. It's not like you have some 1147 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: five and two Green Bay team coming in, so you're 1148 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: looking at like this some super Bowl matchup. Not that 1149 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: I get it, Aaron Rodgers, but it just seems like 1150 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,959 Speaker 1: the position where everyone in their mothers like, oh, Bills 1151 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: are gonna kill them, and all of a sudden you 1152 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: look up in the third quarter and it's a tie game. 1153 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: Now the Green Bay It's not like I'm some believer, 1154 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: but you know, I could see them going like eight nine, 1155 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: nine and eight, and this is just a moment in 1156 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,959 Speaker 1: their season when everyone kind of pivots back, Oh green 1157 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: Bay's back and figure it out. And it turns out, No, 1158 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: they just kitchen sync type game, or maybe they just suck. 1159 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: I I don't know, but is it the craziest thing 1160 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: that the Packers win this game? I guess that is 1161 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, I don't disagree. Yeah, I think 1162 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: that the Bills they could pretend. I know it's at 1163 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: night they're off a bye, they potentially about flatir they're 1164 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: off that Chiefs win. It's like a Packers team that's struggling. 1165 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, Rogers will be a double digit dog the 1166 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: first time in his career. He's only been an underdog 1167 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: of six or more points three times in the regular season. 1168 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: He's covered all three. Ironically enough, was Arizona one of 1169 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: those games last year. Arizona was one to get undefeated 1170 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Arizona they went out right. Ironically enough, all three were 1171 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: on this exact weekend. If you also go back to 1172 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: team the Rams, who were undefeated, um I went on 1173 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl. The Packers lost by 1174 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: two on a late field goal. No one gave a chance. 1175 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: The Packers were bad that year. And then back at 1176 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: two thousand ten, they beat the undefeated Jets on this 1177 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: weekend nine nothing. I don't I don't know what the 1178 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: hell went on that in that game, but that's it 1179 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: they were. That was the only times Rodgers have been 1180 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: an underdog of six or more points. But yeah, I 1181 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: actually think this works in the favor of the Packers. 1182 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Like their offense. You know, they've obviously been struggling, but 1183 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: now they get to kind of breathe and no one 1184 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: gives him a chance. You go up there, you're just 1185 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: the underdog, and you know, there's been all this pressure 1186 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: on this offense, So I think they can kind of 1187 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 1: play loose here. And I actually think you know, they've 1188 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: lost three straight and haven't covered in three shade historically. 1189 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, you're about against the spread in the NFL 1190 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: for the past forty years. Basically, what you're doing is 1191 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: buying low, and I think this is the spot to 1192 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: buy the Packers low. Uh, you know, and I think 1193 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: it's It's not the worst matchup in the world. If 1194 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you look at what's plagued the Packers, they're actually sixth 1195 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: and success rate on offense. You would never think that 1196 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 1: they just have no explosiveness and they've been the unluckiest 1197 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: team on third and fourth downs in the NFL, which 1198 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: tends to be you know, there's a lot of variants there. Now, 1199 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of explosiveness a receiver, they 1200 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: can't really get separation. But the Bills are one of 1201 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL at preventing explosive plays. 1202 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: You kind of have to drive it down dacod dunk. 1203 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: That could work here. And the Packers defense still a 1204 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: top ten past defense. Are probably the worst run defense 1205 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL statistically it has been this year. The 1206 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Bills are a bottom three rush offense this year. They 1207 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: can't they can't run the ball this year. Plus they 1208 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 1: don't run the ball. And if you have if you 1209 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: walk there and the Bills decide we're gonna run the ball, game, 1210 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: you're fine with that. So yeah, from a matchup perspective, 1211 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing in the world for the 1212 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Packers against the team, Like the Bills are just very 1213 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: pass heavy, and then on the other side of the ball, 1214 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, let's short pass, let's try to move 1215 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the ball. You know, they played really slow, So yeah, 1216 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I think they can hang around in this game. The 1217 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, defense is still number one in the NFL, 1218 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: and drive success rate, the offensive six and success rate. 1219 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: They they're special teams are bad, but they've had some 1220 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: bad luck on special teams. Third and fourth downs are 1221 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: dead last the NFL, and fourth down conversion rate, the 1222 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: turnovers have killed them at inopportune times. So I think 1223 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: all that put together, you know, the Bills just beat 1224 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Juggernaut blah blah, blah. This is like the 1225 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 1: bottom of the market on the Packers, and I think 1226 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: it is where something you get Rogers like hey, plus 1227 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: eleven and a half Hall of Fame quarterback. Fine, And 1228 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: if he's down seventeen late, which is a blowout against 1229 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: the Bills, just playing pre event out, there's worst quarterbacks. 1230 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: You could have to go down and yourself a back door. 1231 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: I actually just looking at a parlay right now. Pat's 1232 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Lions Packers about twenty three to one, So you know, 1233 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I might have a little bit. They're stucky, 1234 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 1: so I'm feeling this. I like this Packer upset city baby, 1235 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: um let's get it in there too. I just on 1236 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 1: principle I I don't I don't funk with Kyler and 1237 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: Cliff that way. Though I don't, I don't know. I couldn't. 1238 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't have Cliff taken down my parlay either. That 1239 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: being said, I got Jared Goffin, Dan Campbell in there, 1240 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: but I just Cliff, and just just know it's actually 1241 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: a Cliff I don't have the biggest issue with, even 1242 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: though I don't think he's a great coach. I just 1243 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: think Kyler is like, Bro, You're just I I still 1244 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: can't believe he finagled that contract after that performance. I mean, 1245 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: it's it's got an all time it's an all time 1246 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: racket and and props to his agent, but I don't 1247 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 1: think we'll ever see anything quite like that again. Like 1248 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: at least AAC everyone was like, we love the guy. 1249 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, people his own teammates are like, I'm not 1250 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: a big fan. You know, they pay them unbelievable. Yeah. 1251 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I was gonna ask you about your 1252 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: your Niners, which it was funny. We were talking last 1253 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: week about how they love injured players, players running backs 1254 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: with an injury history, and then we were talking about 1255 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: where's mcaffrey's gonna go, and then we a couple of 1256 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: hours later, McCaffrey goes to the Niners. There they've owned, 1257 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: obviously have owned dominated, shouting is dominated McVeigh except for 1258 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: team when the Niners were awful with like C. J. 1259 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Bethett a quarterback. Do you think that could and you 1260 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: know it's a road game, but it'll be a home 1261 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: game with more Niners fans there by far, Are you 1262 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: too concerned about the defensive like Armstead is really important 1263 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: with kin laal out Um, are the defensive injury don't run. 1264 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: The Rams don't run the ball though, so to me, 1265 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: it's just they just they just dominate them upfront. And 1266 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,959 Speaker 1: the Niners consistently in this game have got a lead 1267 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and then Stafford's become pass happy. Beside the week a 1268 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: team game last year, but for the most but in 1269 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: the regular season games beside that one, they've gotten the 1270 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: leader really forced him to ass and they've eaten his lunch. 1271 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: And he's just such so turnover prone. I mean Ship, 1272 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean he threw it to Quash Guitard in that game. 1273 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: This is also I just don't think the Rams are 1274 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: that good, you know, And this is you know the Niners. Me, 1275 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: it's just like it's just cup and then so concentrated 1276 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: on stars on their defense that they're the one thing 1277 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: would make me a little nervous is that, you know, 1278 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: It's hard to tell with the Niners. Maybe they're just 1279 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: being extra cautious. As debos on the injury report day 1280 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to day hamstring Deebo Samuel has beat the ship out 1281 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: of the Rams, you know, I mean he's running all 1282 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 1: over him, He's caught it. He threw a touchdown last 1283 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 1: year on him. He he turns into like, uh, say 1284 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley in college or something. Again, he's unstoppable. He 1285 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 1: looks like a high school player. Yeah. Then he talks. 1286 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: He talks on the math, they talks on Ramsey and 1287 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: uh yeah, he he owns them. Now. The one thing 1288 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: that maybe they could do without him is, you know, 1289 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: use checks out through The Niners are always beat up man, 1290 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: But is that you you put in like your you 1291 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: have backs, and then you use mc caffrey more like 1292 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Damuel which is well McCaffrey yesterday I saw a clip 1293 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 1: at practice. He was like running wide receiver routes. So 1294 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: I think part of it with Kyle and this is 1295 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: why they I don't love over paying for a running back. 1296 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: But I thought McCaffrey was like thirty. It turned out 1297 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: he was twenty six. He's like the oldest twenty six 1298 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: year old ever. Part of it, obviously, was the Rams 1299 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 1: offered a second, a second, a third, and a fifth 1300 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 1: and basically the Niners just had a fourth. The irony 1301 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: is the reason the Rams didn't have a fourth, because 1302 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 1: they used that to trade for Sony Michelle. So one thing, 1303 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that game he saw 1304 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: last week, the Chiefs game McCaffrey did look pretty good, 1305 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 1: you know. I mean he looked good two weeks ago 1306 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 1: when he was on the Panther. So you know, he's 1307 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: still the top he's the top three back in the NFL. 1308 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, if there's anywhere where he would thrive even more, 1309 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: it's in a Shantahan off. It's like the ways that 1310 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: they can use him. I did see the day headline. 1311 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I did see a headline that kamar uh you know, 1312 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: put people are sniffing around. I could see the Rams 1313 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: being all over you know, second third and like the 1314 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: next year second, Like, Okay, we give miss McCaffrey. We'll 1315 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: just trade your picks for him. Like that to me, 1316 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 1: if you tell me Alvin Kamara gets traded, where does 1317 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: he go? The leader in the clubhouse for me would 1318 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: be the Rams. Yeah that's a good call. But you 1319 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,919 Speaker 1: guys think you get it done again. I'm I'm thinking 1320 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: about that in the Niners. Yeah, I mean, I'd like 1321 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 1: the Nighters this week. I like the Niners most weeks, 1322 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: and it's like sometimes they dominate a good team and 1323 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: sometimes they get their ask kicked by an average seen 1324 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: that they are the most bizarre talented team I've ever 1325 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 1: seen in my life. Yeah, last week, I think it 1326 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 1: was just all the defensive injuries. You can't overcome them 1327 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: against um, a Chief's offense, a Juggernau Chiefs offense. When 1328 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: they are on, that Chief's offense is on you like that. 1329 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I would love to see the Chiefs offense on against 1330 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: the Niners defense full strength. But when the Chiefs offenses 1331 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: on against the Niners beat up defense, no chance. Well 1332 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: there was the Rams are like here, like you look 1333 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: at a bottom three offense this year. I mean, Stafford's 1334 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: on pace four. He's not gonna throw twenty five picks, 1335 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: But does he have a twenty pick season in them? 1336 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: If they're bad and he's just playing from behind a 1337 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 1: lot of games? You know? So? Um yeah, Okay, Parlay Patriots, Lions, Packers, 1338 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: let's go Audio Stucky alright, good luck the volume