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Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from

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Speaker 1: an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're

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Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was

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Speaker 1: I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That

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Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the

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Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger Show. This is a

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Eight

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Speaker 1: a minute. But first, what do we have on tap today? Well?

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Speaker 1: We talk a lot about the system, don't we. You

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Speaker 1: jaws going to hit the floor. Remember what Jesse's been

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Speaker 1: telling you about Balkan eyes. Might want to grab some

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Speaker 1: We have Sean Davis coming on in the second hour.

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Speaker 1: He obviously one of the smartest people we have in

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Speaker 1: the show. He's dug into this woman she has. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: phone calls. We have voicemails Jesse at Jesse Kelly's show

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Speaker 1: in my voice. We're talking about the Old West today.

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Speaker 1: You know how much I love that, And specifically we're

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Speaker 1: talking about a man. Every dude and probably forty percent

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Speaker 1: of the women know Doc Holiday. And the reason you

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Speaker 1: know it's because he is the star of one of

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Speaker 1: these stars in the greatest movie possibly in the history

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Speaker 1: of mankind. Chris, please tell me you have seen Tombstone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: even Jewish producer Chris has seen Tombstone. Ladies, If you haven't,

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Speaker 1: If you have never seen Tombstone, maybe the greatest guy movie.

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Speaker 1: And of course, Val Kilmer plays Doc Holiday in it.

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Speaker 1: I should say this. I hadn't dug into wide eerpen

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Speaker 1: happening today, all right. He was born John Henry and

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Speaker 1: About America. Anyway, his father was a veteran, and one

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Speaker 1: I just don't think I couldn't bear it. Ha ha ha, quick, Chris,

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Speaker 1: relationships with these entertainers. This was not a one off thing.

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00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: This was the norm. This was something that happened regularly.

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00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I was always taught you don't buy a rental,

428
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: but that's apparently what was available back in the time.

429
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Big Nose Kate was an entertainer, but then she went

430
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Speaker 1: on to have a long on again, off again relationship

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Speaker 1: with Doc. Also funny to bring up, oftentimes these entertaining

432
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: women were as violent or more violent than the men

433
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: they hooked up with. Multiple times, you see this Big

434
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Nose Kate and others getting in knife fights and gun fights.

435
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's just crazy, and it's kind of cool, Christ,

436
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: but it's crazy. At one point, Doc buys a saloon

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Speaker 1: in New Mexico, and I should I should note he's

438
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Speaker 1: practicing dentistry on the side. Throughout this entire crazy life.

439
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: He's moving to a town, he's gambling he's stabbing people,

440
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: he's shooting people, he's getting arrested, he's getting released, he

441
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: has to leave the town on the run, goes to

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00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: somewhere else. He's gambling, he's stabbing people, he's shooting people,

443
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: he gets arrested, he has to leave on the run.

444
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking once or twice. This was how

445
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: the man lived ends up buying a place in New Mexico,

446
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: buys his own saloon. It's another one of these places

447
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: close to a military base. So you're getting the young, hothead,

448
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: testosterone filled men, some army guy one night. And now

449
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I got two different versions of this story. One version,

450
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give him both to you. One version

451
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: has the army guy wanting the affections of one of

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Speaker 1: these entertainers in Doc's saloon. Another one has the army

453
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Speaker 1: guy just out in the street wildly shooting. Either way,

454
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: it involves the army guy pulling out a gun and

455
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Speaker 1: blasting away inside of doc saloon. Talk about the all

456
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Speaker 1: time bad luck scenarios. You go out in a town,

457
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Speaker 1: get hammerhoused one night, decide you're gonna fire off some shots,

458
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Speaker 1: and it happens to be in the direction of Doc Holliday.

459
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: That guy did not live to see the next morning

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00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Doc went out there and promptly murdered him on the spot. Now,

461
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I should say at one point in time during these travels,

462
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Speaker 1: Doc had been to Dodge City. Dodge City. It just

463
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Speaker 1: it looks like you know all these wild cities I've

464
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Speaker 1: been describing, describing to you. It's saloon and then it's

465
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Speaker 1: a bar, and it's a hotel, and it's just crazy.

466
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Speaker 1: Dodge City appears to have been the mecca of all that,

467
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: a humongous cowboy town where they would have these cattle drives,

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Speaker 1: so on top of all the other crazy industries you'd

469
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Speaker 1: have in these big cattle drives, huge amounts of cowboys

470
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: would come rolling in and it's just one gigantic bar

471
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Speaker 1: fight and shoot out. This is where he eventually meets

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Speaker 1: Wyatt Earp. Now it's time to have a bit of

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Speaker 1: a frank discussion about Wyatt Earp. I was always raised

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Speaker 1: to think of Wyatt Earp as the good guy and

475
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: a sea of bad, the brave law man standing there

476
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: for Water's right. Yeah, wiat Earp was a huge criminal too,

477
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: a huge criminal, and that wasn't really uncommon back then either.

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00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: That's not even me judging him half. These lawmen, the sheriffs,

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00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: the marshals, they would be marshal for a while and

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Speaker 1: then they would quit that and go rob horses, go

481
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: steal horses and cattle, and then they'd get elected again

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Speaker 1: the next year. And sometimes after they were elected, they

483
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: go steal horses and go rob stage coaches. And Wyatt

484
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: Earp was a wanted man. His face was wanted posters

485
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: most of his life. Honestly, the famous one probably should

486
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: have been Virgil, the older brother, played by Sam Elliott

487
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Speaker 1: and Tombstone. He was a Civil War veteran Union Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Southern listeners, he was a Civil War veteran and then

489
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Speaker 1: a really straight up and down law man kind of,

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00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean as straight up and down as you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get back. Then. Well, at one point, why it gets

492
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Speaker 1: himself in some trouble in Dodge City. Doc's there to help.

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Speaker 1: We'll finish that. Then we'll get to these crazy stories

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Speaker 1: Wyatt and his brothers they come across Doc Holiday in

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Speaker 1: Dodge City. Apparently there was a point in time where

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Speaker 1: Wyatt was about to die. Some guy had his gun

518
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Speaker 1: trained on him, and Doc Holiday came right up beside

519
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: the guy who was pointing a gun at Wyatt Earp

520
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: and placed the weapon right on his temple and said,

521
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: go ahead and do it, and you're gonna die. That

522
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: in an era like that is not something you forget.

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00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: That's not something a wild, lawless, crazy time like the

524
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: Wild West was. Somebody has your back when the chips

525
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: are down, you don't ever forget it. And it is

526
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: a funny relationship between Doc Holiday and the Earp brothers.

527
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: They just always seemed to love each other. They were

528
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: always there for each other and kind of an odd combo,

529
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: but that's who they were. Now, let's wrap up this

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Speaker 1: story with the part that you know and love, the

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Speaker 1: part from the movie Tombstone. Eventually Doc finds himself in Tombstone.

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Speaker 1: This was not an accident, and that is one thing

533
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Speaker 1: the movie screwed up. He didn't just stumble on the

534
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Earp's one day walking through town. The Earps had gotten

535
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Speaker 1: to Tombstone, and they'd gotten to Tombstone and invited Doc

536
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Speaker 1: buy letter, Hey, come on down to Tombstone. Think we

537
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: can make a bunch of money gambling. Here's silver mining here,

538
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: also doing lawman stuff. That's another thing the movie got wrong.

539
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: They didn't move there to avoid being involved in law enforcement.

540
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: They very much wanted to be involved in law enforcement,

541
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Speaker 1: just maybe not maybe not for the best reasons in

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Speaker 1: the world. Remember Big Nose Kate, the entertaining young lady

543
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: that Doc has for a long term girlfriend. She hated

544
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: the earps because she said they were legalized criminals. Apparently

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00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: they would use their badge in very various ways they

546
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: would profit them, And Tombstone may have been the craziest

547
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: of all these places. Yes, there was a huge criminal gang.

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00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: They're called the Cowboys, cattle rustlers, stagecoach but it was

549
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: multiple factions in Tombstone, and virtually all of them seemed

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Speaker 1: to be corrupt. The sheriffs were corrupt, the cowboys were corrupt,

551
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: the Earps were corrupt. Doc was corrupt. That the entire

552
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: town was just a den of corruption and horrible crime.

553
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: The norm, it got to be expected. If you were

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00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: riding in and out of town on a stage coach,

555
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: which that's how you get it got in and out

556
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: of town, you would expect to be robbed. That was

557
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: simply the norm. People would have stagecoach bags, meaning you

558
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: would have a bag with a bunch of goods and

559
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: stuff in it. Not everything, you know, you would try

560
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: to make it look like it was everything, and you

561
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: would just simply have it with you for when you

562
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: got pulled over with a gun in your face. Oh hey,

563
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: I guess it's time for my daily robbing. Here take

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Speaker 1: my bag. There is some evidence that the Earps were

565
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: participating in some of these stage cooped robberies. What Chris,

566
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Speaker 1: It's not my fault. The cowboys did too, and they

567
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: were oftentimes working together. The Earps and the Cowboys, believe

568
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: it or not, not always arch enemies, but eventually, in

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Speaker 1: a gigantic gang land place like this, there's going to

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Speaker 1: be tension. And then there gets to be a lot

571
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: of tension, and they're always drinking all the time, and

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Speaker 1: the Earps do eventually take over. Virgil Earp does take

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Speaker 1: over as the head of law enforcement. And the movie

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Speaker 1: did get it right. That Curly Bill. He did kill

575
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Speaker 1: Fred White, He did kill the lawman, and the RBS

576
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: arrested him for it, and that made the cowboys mad,

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Speaker 1: and then they arrested a couple other cowboys and that

578
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Speaker 1: made him mad. And eventually there's a gunfight in the

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Speaker 1: Ok Corral and that's false. There's a gunfight like a

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Speaker 1: block away from the Okay Corral in a vacant lot,

581
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Speaker 1: But they didn't know what to call it, so they

582
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: simply said gunfight at the Okay Corral. That was a gunfight.

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Speaker 1: It was the Art Brothers and Doc Holliday against four

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Speaker 1: of the cowboys. And yes, just like in the movie,

585
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Doc Holiday was as deadly as advertised, opened up somebody's

586
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: chest with a double barreled shotgun. Also, just like the movie,

587
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Virgil did take a shot in the leg and still

588
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: managed to shoot somebody and kill somebody. This was a

589
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Speaker 1: big deal in the town. The cowboys, not necessarily unjustified,

590
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: said what did we do wrong? Why did we have

591
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: to get in a gunfight? Remember the rps and Doc

592
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: Holiday came to the cowboys at the Okay Corral vice versa.

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Speaker 1: There was a massive funeral where people were protesting the

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Speaker 1: corruption of the Earp brothers. I know that's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a bubble verse. Look, I don't know what to believe.

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't believe any of these people were good people.

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Speaker 1: All right, It was a crazy time made for crazy men. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Morgan, the younger brother, did end up getting killed

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Speaker 1: by the cowboys, and Virgil got ambushed, almost got killed.

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Speaker 1: They shot him in the arm and that's why he

601
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Speaker 1: lost the use of his arm. And yes, Wyatt Earp

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Speaker 1: and Doc Holiday did catch the cowboys trying to ambush

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Speaker 1: Virgil again and finish him off at the train station.

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Speaker 1: And they killed those guys and then they went around

605
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Speaker 1: killing other cowboys and just this gigantic vendetta. To try

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Speaker 1: to wrap up our story here, I know you're wondering

607
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Speaker 1: if the Johnny Ringo portion of the movie was real.

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Speaker 1: There was a guy named Johnny Ringo. He did challenge

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Speaker 1: Wyatt up to a fight. Doc Holiday did step up

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Speaker 1: and say I'm your huckleberry, just like in the movie.

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Speaker 1: What happened after that? I'll tell you in a second.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get to our stories. Hang off, Hey dad,

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Speaker 1: have no idea if he died in getting in a

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Speaker 1: gunfight with Doc Holiday. All that was pretty much made

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Speaker 1: for the movies, all right, we have to dig into

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Speaker 1: some stories here eight seven seven three seven seven four

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Speaker 1: We have a gas shortage, we have women feeling the

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Speaker 1: fitness test in the army. We have Israel blasting away

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Speaker 1: at Palestine. It's going to be a bit of a

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Speaker 1: combative day to day. We're gonna have fun. Hang on,

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Speaker 1: this is the Jesse Kelly Show. This is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. It is the See Kelly's Show. In our

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Speaker 1: final hour, it's going to be just the touch busy.

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Speaker 1: We have the pastor Arter interview and update coming. I

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Speaker 1: have to talk about social media. I have to go

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Speaker 1: through your emails and we have Medal of Honor Monday,

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Speaker 1: and we only have an hour left in the show.

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Speaker 1: Social media it can be used for great good, it

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Speaker 1: can be used for great harm. The main problem with

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Speaker 1: it now is this we haven't learned as a society,

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Speaker 1: as a world, we haven't learned how to use it yet.

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Speaker 1: These things take time. It's something brand new. Wait. I

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Speaker 1: can talk to anyone anywhere about anything anytime I want,

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Speaker 1: and hear what they're saying and see what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: What you're seeing from a thirty thousand foot view is

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Speaker 1: this We didn't realize we were thirsty. Someone tore open

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Speaker 1: a fire hydrant. Have you ever heard of it? Seen

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Speaker 1: water pressure coming out of there, or take your skin

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Speaker 1: water and thought, wow, that's really good. And now what

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Speaker 1: you see as the world as a whole taking its

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Speaker 1: collective face and stuffing it in front of the fire hydrant,

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Speaker 1: trying to drink and constantly hurting itself, and then coming

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Speaker 1: out of that and saying, whoa, the fire hydrant is bad.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad fire hydrant and water's bad. No, you

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Speaker 1: haven't learned how to safely consume it yet. That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: It's not that it's bad, it's not that it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's that you, when I say you, I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: the world as a whole, haven't learned how to safely

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Speaker 1: consume it yet. That's why it manifests itself and nine

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Speaker 1: thousand other ugly ways. And nobody has done it right. Nobody.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's learning how to dance through that minefield. I will

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Speaker 1: tell you this. This is just my last point on

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Speaker 1: this before I move on. So I want to get

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Speaker 1: the Medal of Honor Monday. It really really helps being

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Speaker 1: a sociopath on social media because I don't have human emotions.

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Speaker 1: If you are the type of person who is more sensitive,

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Speaker 1: and I know that's a lot of people, that's a

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Speaker 1: normal thing. You really need to monitor how often you

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Speaker 1: have that phone in your hands staring at Facebook or

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Speaker 1: Twitter or Instagram, because it will affect you emotionally. All right,

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Speaker 1: we haven't learned how to drink from that fire hydrant yet,

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Speaker 1: so it's time to drink from that fire hydrant. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's time for Medal of Honor Monday. Medal of Honor

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Speaker 1: Monday is the one good thing we do all week

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Speaker 1: on this show. We take a medal of Honor citation

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Speaker 1: read it because the men deserve to be remembered, because

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Speaker 1: their deeds deserve to be remembered. And it's not enough

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Speaker 1: to know that these citations just exist. If we don't

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Speaker 1: read them and think about them and remember them, then

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Speaker 1: they get forgotten and lost, and that is not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Part of being a nation is remembering your greats. That's

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Speaker 1: what great nations do. So let's talk about mister Henry

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Speaker 1: Eugene Irwin. His nickname was read he was the radio

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Speaker 1: radio operator of a B twenty nine airplane leading a

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Speaker 1: group formation to attack kura Yama, Japan. He was charged

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Speaker 1: aid in assembling the group when the launching point was reached.

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Speaker 1: Upon entering the resembly area, aircraft fire and enemy fighter

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Speaker 1: opposition was encountered. Among the phosphorus bombs launched by Staff

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Speaker 1: Sergeant Irwin. One proof faulty, exploding in the launching shoot

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Speaker 1: and shot back into the interior of the aircraft, striking

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Speaker 1: him in the face. The burning phosphorus obliterated his nose

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Speaker 1: and completely blinded him. Smoke filled the plane, obscuring the

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Speaker 1: vision of the pilot. Staff Sergeant Irwin realized that the

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Speaker 1: he picked it up, and, feeling his way around, instinctively

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Speaker 1: crawled around the gun turret and headed for the copilot's window.

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Speaker 1: He found the navigator's table obstructing his passage. Grasping the

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Speaker 1: he stumbled forward into the smoke field pilot's compartment. Groping

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Speaker 1: with his burning hands, he located the window and threw

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Speaker 1: the bomb out. Completely aflame, he fell back upon the floor.

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Speaker 1: The smoke cleared the pilot at three hundred feet pulled

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Speaker 1: the plane out of its dive staff. Sergeant Irwin's gallantry

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Speaker 1: and heroism above and beyond the call of duty saved

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Speaker 1: the lives of his comrades. Do you have any idea

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Speaker 1: how badly that would hurt? The dude was blind, his

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Speaker 1: face was destroyed. I mean coming near a white phosphorus.

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Speaker 1: I've shot white phosphorus before. You don't even understand how

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Speaker 1: hot that is. This dude grabbed it, and I don't

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Speaker 1: mean grabbed it and played a quick game of hot

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Speaker 1: potato with it, and grabbed it and just pushed it

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Speaker 1: out of something. He grabbed it and crawled with and

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Speaker 1: then runs into something and has the presence of mind

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Speaker 1: while he's burning alive, to hold it to his body

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Speaker 1: with on our one arm and raise the table and

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Speaker 1: then find his way to the window. That is such

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Speaker 1: an absurd level of commitment to saving the lives of

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Speaker 1: your brothers. That's why we read those stories, and before today,

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Speaker 1: you never even knew that story existed. That's why it's

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Speaker 1: important for us to remember. Email doctor j steal Sombrero, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: what Chris as I was listening to your show about

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Speaker 1: the Reserve Police Battalion one O one, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that was Friday's show. Obviously, all the podcasts are on iHeart, Google, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: and iTunes. If you want to go back and listen

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Speaker 1: to that you can. Just a warning for those who

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Speaker 1: maybe a day or two behind on it, that is

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Speaker 1: a very heavy one. I do the Reserve Police Battalion show.

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Speaker 1: I try to do it at least once a year

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Speaker 1: because that it's that important. It's a heavy, heavy show

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Speaker 1: on Friday, A bit heavier than the Berlin Airlift, I'll

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Speaker 1: put it that way anyway. The guy goes back and says,

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Speaker 1: I found myself wondering why the dirty scumbag nazis bothered

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Speaker 1: with death camps at all. It seemed to me that

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Speaker 1: transition transporting people to a particular location just to kill

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Speaker 1: them would be a waste of resources. They had to

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Speaker 1: put resources into creating the camp, burn fuel to move

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Speaker 1: the train, and they would have have to have men

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Speaker 1: to assign to transport, as well as men to gather

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Speaker 1: and then hold the people at the camp. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand what the benefit of a camp over simply digging

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Speaker 1: a large pit, lining the target people up, and executing

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Speaker 1: them into the pit. It is clear what the Nazis,

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Speaker 1: or I think he says, it isn't clear, or it

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Speaker 1: is clear with the Nazis gained from work camps, But

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Speaker 1: what did they gain from death camps? Well? One, obviously

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Speaker 1: the Nazis were evil, but you don't in general question

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Speaker 1: German ingenuity. But two, one of the main problems with

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Speaker 1: a ditch, a ditch full of people, it can be found.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the main problems. How many I mean

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Speaker 1: this will especially apply to the women. This won't apply

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Speaker 1: to any dudes, but this will apply to the women.

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Speaker 1: I know, you sick freak women out there love those

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Speaker 1: forensic file shows and shows about serial killers. And this

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Speaker 1: lady killed her husband, and this husband killed his wife,

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Speaker 1: and women love that stuff, which is really odd and

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Speaker 1: a bit frightening ladies. But anyway, how often do dead

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Speaker 1: bodies that have been buried end up getting found really often,

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Speaker 1: and that's one dead body. You can't bury people in

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Speaker 1: mass well, I mean you can without them getting found,

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Speaker 1: but you start being too many people in mass day

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Speaker 1: get found. That's one. Two. How much in resources did

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Speaker 1: it actually take. Let's talk about that for a moment

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