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Speaker 1: Friday morning to you. Today is National Pastry Day. Should

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Speaker 1: sunny today. Hi's in the mid sixties, cloudy, chili and

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Speaker 1: wet this weekend, especially on Sunday. Now, let me have

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Speaker 1: you seen the documentary is out Harry and Megan on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Three episodes came out. I don't know if you've seen

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Speaker 1: it or not. I have not seen it yet. I

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Speaker 1: do want to see it. I've seen some of the

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Speaker 1: clips on the news. But wanted to bring in Max

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Speaker 1: Foster from CNN. Max, thanks for coming on. Hey, right, So, Max,

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Speaker 1: you are anchor correspondent for CNN. You're based in London

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Speaker 1: covering all kinds of different things. Now, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about Harry and Megan. I know you've

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Speaker 1: been on scene and I've seen you talking about it

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Speaker 1: on television. But I guess what we're trying to understand

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Speaker 1: here is. I'm gonna watch the first three episodes tonight,

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Speaker 1: but we're well, I guess what we're trying to understand

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Speaker 1: here is. I guess first of all, you know, we

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Speaker 1: were under the impression that they wanted separation and privacy, right,

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Speaker 1: some some privacy in their lives, and maybe it's all

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Speaker 1: explaining the documentary, But yet we're seeing them out doing

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Speaker 1: more things publicly. Can you explain that? Well? That is

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Speaker 1: often a criticism of them, that they want to deal

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Speaker 1: with the media to a certain extent, and they want

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Speaker 1: to share really intimate moments of their story to the media,

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Speaker 1: but also requires some privacy. I think what a lot

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Speaker 1: of their team would argue is that it's more nuanced

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Speaker 1: than that that they So they do have a right

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Speaker 1: to privacy, but this is more about a right to

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Speaker 1: controlling their narrative, their story. They feel that their story

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Speaker 1: has always run away with them. The British tabloids are

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Speaker 1: very much to blame for that. There's been lots of misinformation.

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Speaker 1: So they use the media to tell their story in

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Speaker 1: a way that they feel is real. What have you seen?

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Speaker 1: How much have you seen of the documentary? I've watched

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Speaker 1: the first three episodes. There are three more to come

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Speaker 1: next week. UM yeah, and UM well, I mean it's um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's very much from their perspective. It's initially about

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Speaker 1: their love story, how they came together, how Megan didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to expect, and how Harry didn't really know

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Speaker 1: what to expect, and then this sort of torrent of

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Speaker 1: abuse that they received in the media. And it returns

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Speaker 1: to some familiar themes. You'll remember the Oprah Winfrey interview

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Speaker 1: where that which was a real bombshell interview. We didn't

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Speaker 1: have any new bombshells in this part of it. It

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Speaker 1: was more reinforcing those sort of arguments and really doubling

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Speaker 1: down on the idea that the tabloids had it in

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Speaker 1: for them and the Palace didn't protect them enough against

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Speaker 1: that is that they were complicit to some extent by

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Speaker 1: providing the tabloids with stories. And in one of the

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Speaker 1: trade lers they talk about planting stories with the tabloids.

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Speaker 1: They didn't refer to that in this part of the series,

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Speaker 1: but I presume that becoming next week. So Max, then

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Speaker 1: I I see headlines of the Palace bracing itself for this,

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Speaker 1: that and the other. What is the potential concern who

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Speaker 1: is potentially getting trouble here. I mean it's it's some

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Speaker 1: specifics about what the palace did or didn't do, and

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Speaker 1: maybe some personal attacks. So um, there is a reference

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Speaker 1: here to how Megan and Harry first met caton William

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Speaker 1: and how Megan was dressed very informally in ripped jeans

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Speaker 1: and then she goes on to say the formality and

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Speaker 1: I think to Brits like a veiled criticism because there

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Speaker 1: isn't any compliment there really about Cat and William. But

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Speaker 1: they're concerned about undermining the monarchy frankly because the monarchy

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Speaker 1: I think that they accept that Harry Megan want to

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Speaker 1: tell their story, their independent figures, but they also want

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Speaker 1: to retain the so the majesty of monarchy and a

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Speaker 1: lot of that is being dented by this campaign, as

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Speaker 1: sussexs Max Foster with us from cnnl in London. What

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Speaker 1: about the reaction there? What are people you know in

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Speaker 1: Are they on the monarch side? How are they viewing it? Well,

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Speaker 1: this is where the divisiveness sets in. I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're pro monarchy, you're probably not going to watch

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Speaker 1: it and you're going to push a lot of this away.

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Speaker 1: If you're big supporters of Meghan and Harry, then you're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna watch it and I think you'll find it fascinating.

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Speaker 1: But there isn't much balance there because you're not hearing

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Speaker 1: from the other side's point of view. And an interesting

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Speaker 1: sort of thing happened this afternoon where at the beginning

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Speaker 1: someone at Kensington Palace said, well, we did receive an

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Speaker 1: so interesting. Why did they drop the next three episodes

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Speaker 1: that's next week on Thursday. Yeah, and I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, what we've seen today could set up things

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Speaker 1: for a bit of a bombshell. I guess they set

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Speaker 1: the scene here, how they met, what their experience was

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Speaker 1: initially being in royal life, and next time we'll find

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Speaker 1: out why they left their royal roles. So that's where

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Speaker 1: the real tension sets in and where they may be

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Speaker 1: making some accusations. Max Foster, by the way, I get

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Speaker 1: to see you are anchoring. I don't know where I

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Speaker 1: am when I see you, but I do see you,

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Speaker 1: and I really enjoy your Broadcastle. So thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on your show, right, and thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me on. Thank you, buddy. Take care of Max. Right,

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Speaker 1: Max Foster their CNN. Yeah, you know, if you ever travel,

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Speaker 1: he's on the international channel. And I don't quite understand

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Speaker 1: how CNN works, but it's on everywhere all the time, exactly, right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things here. I'd like to say privacy

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Speaker 1: from now on, privacy. And you have to wonder are

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Speaker 1: they spacing out the Netflix doesn't normally do this where

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Speaker 1: they just give you some and then others do they

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Speaker 1: it's everything at once, right, I know, it's interesting. So

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Speaker 1: they're spacing this out because of all of the fodder.

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Speaker 1: They are starting to change up how they release shows,

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Speaker 1: how they do shows, and so they're kind of switching

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Speaker 1: things up a little bit over at Netflix. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know next week after I watch it.

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Speaker 1: What I see, but it sounds like we're going to

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Speaker 1: see the setup and then maybe something we don't know coming.

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