1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: DAYBAQ podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Monday, the twenty fifth of November in London. 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepka. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, The CBI says 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: half of all UK firms are planning job cuts after 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: last month's budget tax hikes. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: The UK government is considering clawing back tax breaks from 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: fund managers who fail to invest enough domestically. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Plus, Germany's politics may be fractious and its economy week, 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: but bond investors have some good news. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Almost half of firms in the UK are said to 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: be in damage control and preparing to slash jobs. That's 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: according to a survey by the Confederation of British Industry, 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: which says the moves are in response to the tax 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: rises announced in last month's budget. Bloomberg's Tiba Adabaio has 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: the story Half. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: Of all British businesses are planning to trim their workforces 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: and sixty two percent say they'll look to hire fewer 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: people in the future. Those were some of the findings 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: of a recent survey by the UK's most prominent business 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: lobby group. The news comes after Chancellor Rachel Reeves increased 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: taxes by more than forty billion pounds last month, most 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: of which will come from changes to National Insurance, a 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: payroll levy. The group's CEO, Rain Newton Smith is expected 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: to blame the budget for waning business sentiment during a 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: speech at the CBI annual conference later as today. Alongside 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: job cuts, around six to ten businesses predicted that the 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: budget wouldn't increase the country's investment appeal. That's despite Rachel 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: Reeves's claims her plan will get the nation's finances back 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 3: on track. In London, Tea at a bio Bloomberg. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Radio staying with the UK Now where the government is 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: considering clawing back pension tax breaks from asset managers who 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: failed to invest enough domestically. That's according to the head 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: of the British Business who warned the measure could be 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: necessary as the government pursues a key growth initiative. Louis Taylor, 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: effectively a government official as CEO of the state owned lender, 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: added that he did not endorse the idea, noting that 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: the industry prefers an Australian style tax relief system to 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: incentivize investment. The government wants pension funds to commit at 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: least five percent of their assets to the UK and 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: is considering a disclosure regime to encourage voluntary investment, but 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: last week the Pensions Minister Emma Reynolds refused to rule 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: out maudraconian measures. 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: UNI Credit has launched a takeover bid for its domestic 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: rival Banco BPM. The move comes as the Landers' CEO, 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: Andrea Orcelle, is also considering an acquisition of Germany based 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Commerce Bank after buying a large stake in its unique 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: credits offer. As an all shares one it's proposing zero 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: point one seven five newly issued shares for each one 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: from BP. 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: The selection of Scott Percent as the next US Treasury 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Secretary his fuel d a rallying currencies around the world 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: against the US dollar. The greenback fell by zero point 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: six percent on Monday, according to one gauge, with the 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: yen and Europe among the biggest gainers. The moves underscored 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: the sense of relief amongst traders who believe the choice 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: of a Wall Street veteran may take some of the 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: sting out of Trump's America First agenda. Hugh Chung is 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: chief Investment advisory Officer at Endowas. 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: Is viewed as a pragmatist when it comes to policy. 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: I mean, in the past we've seen appointments of people 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: from the industry and banks such as Henry Parson and 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: Robert Rubin as well, so I think the market expectation 66 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: is for him to be more market friendly. 67 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Hugh Chung's view is supported by market participants surveyed by Bloomberg. 68 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Following Percent's appointment, The traders think the fund manager will 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: take a more phased approach to tariffs while also attempting 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: to rein in the US budget de sid. 71 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Apple CEO Tim Cook is visiting China today is company's 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: brace for President elect Donald Trump's threat to hike tariffs 73 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: on the country's goods. Cook is attending a suppliers conference 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: in Beijing, where Chinese President excuse Chinese Premier Lee Kiang 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: is expected to meet top corporate executives. The Apple CEO 76 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: was in the capital just last month when he promised 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: to keep investing in the country. The latest visit comes 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: as in video Boss Jensen Huang also weighed in on 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: China's economic importance while accepting an honorary degree from Hong 80 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: Kong University. 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 5: And Video has also benefited from being in this region. 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: In China, we came over twenty five years ago. Nvidia 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 5: designce centers in Hong Kong, Pudong, Beijing, Shenzhen have many 84 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 5: proud hkust alums and longtime colleagues. 85 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 6: Who have helped me build Nvidio. 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: They've also helped build China's technology ecosystem from the very beginning. 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 5: We've had the benefit and the great joy privilege of 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 5: watching the amazing technology industry form in China. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: Well I also acknowledged China's contributions to AI and praised 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: open research as a form of global cooperation. 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Iran reportedly plans to hold talks about its nuclear program 92 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: this week with the UK, France, and Germany, according to 93 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: Japan's Kyodo news agency, citing Iranian diplomatic sources. The talks 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: will also touch on European sanctions on the country's airline 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: and shipping companies. Last week, Tehran said that it would 96 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: ramp up its nuclear fuel making capacity after it was 97 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: censored by the UN Atomic watchdog. All Eyes are now 98 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: on the incoming Trump administration to see if the President 99 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: elect plans to revive his so called maximum pressure policy 100 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: against Iran. 101 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: In the UK, Store and Burt is expected to cause 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: continued flooding and travel disruption after torrential downpours and for 103 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: weather related deaths over the weekend. A major incident has 104 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: been declared in Wales. Welsh First Minister Eleonard Morgan says 105 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: it's been a difficult weekend for many. 106 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 7: This is the second time that many of those have 107 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 7: suffered as a result of the storm. There's been huge 108 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 7: investments since the last storm hits, so we've managed to 109 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 7: protect lots more properties, but obviously this is absolutely devastating. 110 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: Just before Christmas, helland Morgan speaking there after more than 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: eighty percent of November's average monthly rainfall fell in just 112 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: forty eight hours across the UK. 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Those are our top stories for you on the markets 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: this morning. Markets seem to be cheering Trump's Treasury secretary 115 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: pick the S and P five rounded. Even if futures 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: currently up four tenths of one percent, euro Stox fifty 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: futures also gaining seven tenths of one percent, The dollar 118 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: is falling back on the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index some 119 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: four tenths of one percent lower US Treasury yield to 120 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: fall and five basis points, so Treasury is rallying and 121 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: risk sentiment in Asia appears to be positive, So the 122 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: Nicke two two five up by one point four percent, 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: CIAS Pacific Index up by nine tenths of one percent. 124 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: I'd also point to a couple of other markets. Bitcoin 125 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: rebounding after the loss that we saw over the weekend, 126 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: is up by one point three percent ninety eight two 127 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety dollars. This follows what happened last week 128 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: for European markets. Just a reminder of Friday, of course, 129 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: your stock six hundred close up by one point two percent, 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: but a fourth week of losses for European stocks last week. 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: Unique Credit has launched a takeover bid for its domestic 132 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: rival Banco BPM. The move comes as the Landers CEO 133 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: Andrea Orchell is also considering an acquisition of Germany based 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Commerce Bank after buying a large stake in its Unique 135 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: Credits offer as an all shares one It's proposing zero 136 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: point one seven five newly issued shares for each one 137 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: from BPM. 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: The selection of Scott percent as the next US Treasury Secretary, 139 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: has fueled a rallying currencies around the world against the 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: US dollar. Bring backfell by zero point six percent on Monday, 141 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: according to one gauge, with the yen and Europe among 142 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the biggest gainers. The moves underscored the sense of relief 143 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: amongst traders who believe the choice of a Wall Street 144 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: veteran may take some of the sting out of Trump's 145 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: America First agenda. Hugh Chung is chief Investment advisory Officer 146 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: at Endowas. 147 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: Is viewed as a pragmatist when it comes to policy. 148 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: I mean, in the past we've seen appointments of people 149 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: from the industry and banks such as Henry Paarson and 150 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: Robert Rubin as well, so I think the market expectation 151 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: is for him to be more market friendly. 152 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Hugh Chung's view is supported by market participants surveyed by 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Following Percent's appointment. The traders think the fund manager 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: will take a more phased approach to tariffs while also 155 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: attempting to brain in the US budget deficit. 156 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: Apple CEO Tim Cook is visiting China today as companies 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: brace for President elect Donald Trump's threat to hike tariffs 158 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: on the country's goods. Cook is attending a suppliers conference 159 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: in Beijing, where Chinese President Ecusny Chinese Premier Lee Kiang 160 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: is expected to meet top corporate executives. The Apple CEO 161 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: was in the capital just last month when he promised 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: to keep investing in the country. The latest physics comes 163 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: as in video. Boss Jensen Huang also weighed in on 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 2: China's economic importance while accepting an honorary degree from Hong 165 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Kong University. 166 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: And Vidia has also benefited from being in this region 167 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 5: in China. 168 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 6: We came over twenty five years ago. 169 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 5: Nvidia design centers in Hong Kong, Pudong, Beijing, Shenzhen have 170 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: many proud hkust alums and longtime colleagues. 171 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 6: Who have helped me build Nvidia. 172 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 5: They've also helped build China's technology ecosystem from the very beginning. 173 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: We've had the benefit and the great joy and privilege 174 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 5: of watching the amazing technology industry form in China. 175 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: Well I also acknowledged China's contributions to AI and praised 176 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: open research as a form of global cooperation. 177 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Iran reportedly plans to hold talks about its nuclear program 178 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: this week with the UK, France and Germany. According to 179 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: Japan's Kyodo news agency, citing Iranian diplomatic sources, the talks 180 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: will also touch on European sanctions on the country's airline 181 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: and shipping companies. Last week, Tehran said that it would 182 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: ramp up its nuclear fuel making capacity after it was 183 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: censored by the UN Atomic Watchdog. All eyes are now 184 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: on the incoming Trump administration to see if the President 185 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: elect plans to revive his so called maximum pressure policy 186 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: against Iran. 187 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: In the UK, storem birth is expected to cause continued 188 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: flooding and travel disruption after torrential downpours, and for weather 189 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: related deaths over the weekend. A major incident has been 190 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: declared in Wales. Welsh First Minister Eleonard Morgan says it's 191 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: been a difficult weekend for many. 192 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 7: This is the second time that many of those have 193 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 7: suffered as a result of the storm. There's been huge 194 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 7: investments since the last storm hits, so we've managed to 195 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 7: protect lots more properties, but obviously this is absolutely devastating. 196 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: Just before Christmas, Hellod Morgan speaking there after, more than 197 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: eighty percent of November's average monthly rainfall fell in just 198 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: forty eight hours across the UK. 199 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Those are our top stories for you on the markets 200 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: this morning. Markets seem to be cheering Trump's Treasury secretary 201 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: pick the S and P five unded, even if future 202 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: is currently up four tenths of one percent. Euro Stox 203 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: fifty futures also gaining seven tenths of one percent. The 204 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: dollar is falling back on the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index, 205 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: some four tenths of one percent lower US Treasury yield 206 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: to fall and five basis points, so Treasury is rallying, 207 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: and risk sentiment in Asia appears to be positive, so 208 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: the NICKEK two two five up by one point four percent, 209 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Msciaged Pacific Index up by nine tenths of one percent. 210 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: I'd also point to a couple of other markets. Bitcoin 211 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: rebounding after the loss that we saw over the weekend, 212 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: is up by one point three percent ninety eight two 213 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety dollars. This follows what happened last week 214 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: for European markets. Just a reminder of Friday, of course, 215 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: your stock six hundred close up by one point two percent, 216 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: but a fourth week of losses for European stocks last week. 217 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: In a moment, we'll bring you. 218 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: More on the warning of job carts from the UK's 219 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: most influential business lobby, plus why investors think Germany should 220 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: borrow hundreds of billions of euros more to invest in 221 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: its economy. But first, one of the story that caught 222 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: our i this morning, and in case you're looking for 223 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: a further educational opportunity, you could try the Rolls Royce 224 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: School for Chauffeurs. 225 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: I love this story, It's so fun. It's our colleague 226 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: Canna Elliott, who joined the training course herself. It was 227 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. It apparently teaches chauffers how to open 228 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: doors properly, how to load luggage, how to drive with 229 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: elegance and precisions. That's very different to my morning commute. 230 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Well exactly. It includes important tips like making sure that 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: the bags are loaded into the car before the passengers arrive. 232 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: You always lift and not drag, so you don't bring 233 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: any dirt with you into the cars. As well, never 234 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: ask a passenger how was your flight, because it encourages 235 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: them essentially to lie to you because nobody has a 236 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: good flight. And that you also should know is that 237 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: you chill Vintage and non vnted champagnes to different temperatures 238 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: and you can adjust your rolls Royce Mini fridge to 239 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: be able to cater for that. 240 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: I love that well. It is sort of two different worlds, 241 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because you've got the idea of autonomous driving 242 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: where you don't drive a tool, and then this very 243 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: very kind of personalized, probably rather expensive service. 244 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: It's a fascinating read for all the tips and tricks 245 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: that come with that job. As a well worth read 246 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: on Bloomberg dot com or on the terminal. Let's bring 247 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: you more in e though, on that warning from the 248 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: CBI that half of UK firms are planning to cut 249 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: jobs after the tax sikes that were announced in last 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: month's budget, Our UK correspondent Lizzie Burden is here with more. Lizzie, 251 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: this seems like a pretty stark warning from the country's 252 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: most influential business lobby group. What are they saying? 253 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 8: Yeah? 254 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 9: And what a change from pre election and pre budget 255 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 9: when you know, it seemed obvious that Labor was the 256 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 9: party of Business. They'd wooed bosses with the smoked salmon 257 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 9: and scrambled eggs offensive. But now the CBI is saying 258 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 9: all of these tax rises in the budget forty billion 259 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 9: pounds of them, which of course were aimed at business 260 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 9: and the wealthy, means that businesses have got to be 261 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 9: in damage control. So as you say, they say about 262 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 9: half are planning to trim their workforces. Even more than that, 263 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 9: sixty two percent say that they're planning to pull back hiring. 264 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 9: And this is why Rain Newton Smith, the CBI CEO, 265 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 9: is going to say at their conference today, tax rises 266 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 9: like this employer national insurance rise must never again be 267 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 9: done to business. So Steve and I do wonder whether 268 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 9: this is actually preempting a potential further fiscal event if 269 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 9: one is to come in the spring. She's trying to 270 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 9: fend off more taxes if the Chancellor has to come 271 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 9: back again. But I also wonder whether it's partly on 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 9: lobby groups for not taking on labor bravely enough pre budget. 273 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 9: The CBI says that these tax rises were expected, but 274 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 9: it was the scale of them that was the real surprise. 275 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 8: Here. 276 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 9: Now, other things that they're going to be asking for 277 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 9: at this conference today include planning reforms to boost development, 278 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 9: a simpler tax system, better tech adoption, and interestingly also 279 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 9: they want the government to make occupational health care tax 280 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 9: free because they say that that's going to stop people 281 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 9: dropping out of the workforce. 282 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, how big a worry will that continue to be? 283 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: And what does that mean that occupational health care that 284 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: it should become tax free. 285 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 9: Well, so they say that thirty four thousand people dropping 286 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 9: out of the workforce could be prevented if you took 287 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 9: this measure. And interestingly, the Prime Minister said in an 288 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 9: op ed over the weekend that the government's going to 289 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 9: lay out radical reforms on social spending this week and 290 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 9: it's for the same reason to get people back into 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 9: the workforce, which of course is important because if you 292 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 9: look at the recent economic data for the first few 293 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 9: months of laboring office, you can see the economy he's 294 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 9: been stagnating. Retail sales have been falling, so he's trying 295 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 9: to get especially young people back into employment or at 296 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 9: least into education or training. 297 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: We've also been hearing from the head of the British 298 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: Business Bank warning that the government could go further to 299 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: encourage funds to invest more in UK assets. 300 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, so you'll remember in the Chancellor's Mansion House speech, 301 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 9: Rachel Reeves said that pension funds should club together to 302 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 9: create these mega funds bigger pools for investment. But one 303 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 9: of the big unanswered questions was how she'd drive that 304 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 9: money into UK companies. And when I spoke to her, 305 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 9: she said she wasn't looking at mandating asset managers to 306 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 9: invest in UKPLC. That's the big stick here, right. I 307 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 9: asked her, are you going to give tax breaks for 308 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 9: funds that do invest in the UK like they do 309 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 9: in Australia and she said they already get tax breaks. 310 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 9: But what's interesting here is Louis Taylor, who's effectively a 311 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 9: government official as the CEO of the British Business Bank, 312 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 9: which is a so own bank. He said the Treasury 313 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 9: could recoup some of the tax benefits already given, so 314 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 9: I don't know whether you want to see that as 315 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 9: a smaller stick or a carrot, A small a carrot. 316 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 9: But the Pensions Worker Pension of Secretary Emma Reynolds hasn't 317 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 9: ruled this out, so we'll have to see whether this 318 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 9: how this plays. 319 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: Up, Okay, Lizzie, thank you so much for that. Bloomberg's 320 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: UK corresponded. 321 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: Lizzie Burden to Germany next, where calls are growing for 322 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: the next government to loosen its purse strings and spend 323 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: more on investment if it chooses to. There's a market 324 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: hungary to buy more of its debt. Our FX and 325 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: rates reporter Alice Ledhill has been writing about this and 326 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: she joins us this. 327 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 6: Morning for more. 328 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: Alice, why do investors think Germany should issue more debt? 329 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 8: Mornning? So there's no doubt about it. Germany finds itself 330 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 8: in a pretty tough book. So the economy has these 331 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 8: big structural problems. It's been flirting with recession through this year. 332 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 8: It looks economists think it will gain recession this winter. 333 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 8: Now that contrast to some of Europe's other economy like 334 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 8: Italy and Spain, which have actually emerged from the COVID 335 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 8: years pretty strongly. And this is a real change for 336 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 8: the area. So Germany as its biggest economy historically, it's 337 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 8: been this economic powerhouse, and now it's frequently held up 338 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 8: as the fit burn of Europe. And this is where 339 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 8: the debt issue comes in. So Germany has a so 340 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 8: called debt break which has enshrined in the constitution and 341 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 8: put some limit on how much debt Germany can issue. 342 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 8: And increasingly investors, economists, and some German politicians are saying 343 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 8: we're being held back by our self imposed rules on debt. 344 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 8: We need to be able to borrow more that we 345 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 8: can invest in the economy and make long lasting structural 346 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 8: changes that can boost growth. 347 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, But then surely do bond investors not prefer 348 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: countries to actually issue less debt rather than more debt. 349 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a good question, and I think it all 350 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 8: depends on the starting point. So yeah, a lot of 351 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 8: countries have very large debt piles that are increasingly a 352 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 8: source of worry. So I've put France in that camp, 353 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 8: the UK, even the US as well. Germany, however, is 354 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 8: a bit of an anomaly, so culturally and politically there's 355 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 8: long been opposition to the country issuing too much debt, 356 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 8: and that means it's got a pretty low debt to 357 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 8: GDP or sort of debt to output ratio of about 358 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 8: sixty percent in just the comparison the UK is about 359 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 8: one hundred percent, in France at about one hundred and twelve. 360 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 8: And so Germany enjoyed from the lowest borrowing cough in Europe, 361 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 8: if not the world, And that's the key point. I think, 362 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 8: So Germany essentially has the capacity to do more debt 363 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 8: if itchis is how. 364 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: Likely is it though, that Germany will actually start to 365 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: issue this debt because of course there's an election campaign 366 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: on at the moment, so it is an issue that 367 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: could be. 368 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 6: Up for debate. 369 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, I mean, and it's very much central 370 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 8: I think to see this election now that does seem 371 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 8: to be a bit of a thawing of sentiments in Germany, 372 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 8: that it does remain a highly divisive issue. So in fact, 373 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 8: the reform of the debt break was actually at the 374 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 8: heart of the recent collapse of the coalition government. So 375 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 8: Chancellor and Olas Schultz ended up firing his finance minister, 376 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 8: Christian Linda, who's known for being a strong proponent or 377 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 8: advocate of keeping the debt break. Now, Schultz as well 378 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 8: as Friedrich Mertz, who's one of his main contenders for 379 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 8: the chancellorship in the elections, have signor they're both open 380 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 8: to some kind of reform. However, polls show that a 381 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 8: slim majority of Germany's population is against changing the rules, 382 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 8: and of course any change in parliament would require two 383 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 8: thirds of politicians to vote in favor of it, which 384 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 8: is by no means should this. 385 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Is Bloomberg daybreak Europe. 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