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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it could happen here a podcast about

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Speaker 1: things falling apart, And you can't spell falling apart without

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Speaker 1: Republican Party, or at least several of the letters fall

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Speaker 1: in the party you use that for that are also

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Speaker 1: in this garrison. Hello, how are you doing good? Well,

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Speaker 1: good arrison in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I just got back from a visit in

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Speaker 2: Portland where we watched many upsetting things. Bak, we didn't.

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Speaker 1: Watch a lot of upsetting things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably the most upsetting of which was the first

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four Republican primary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, it sure was nice. Watching those Indonesian war

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Speaker 1: criminals reenact their crimes really cleared my mind after watching

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Speaker 1: the Republican debate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a really gooder.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, this is not the most timely thing

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Speaker 1: because we didn't want to just like do a reaction

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Speaker 1: podcast where we talked about here's what we thought about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the vec's answer or anonymous white Man number

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Speaker 1: four's answer to you know, these various questions.

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Speaker 2: I thought Chris Christy was very put together.

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Speaker 3: Very on.

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Speaker 2: Message.

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Speaker 1: Now we wanted to look at like wait for some

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Speaker 1: and also how it seems to be playing with the

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Speaker 1: bass and the American voters in general, because all of

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Speaker 1: this matters, because again, the Republicans are I mean, we

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Speaker 1: are all a little bit the architects of collapse here

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Speaker 1: and in our in our lovely society. But the Republicans

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Speaker 1: they like to they like to really pump that ship

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Speaker 1: thing that kind of stuck out to both of us

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Speaker 1: have talked about after the debate was Vivek's performance. Vivek Ramaswami,

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Speaker 1: who was prior to I even made a little comment

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Speaker 1: prior to it that I didn't I didn't know much

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Speaker 1: he was somebody who is just kind of coming onto

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Speaker 1: bit about how he started that because there was some

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Speaker 1: stuff I was unaware of here prior to him announcing

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Speaker 1: his candidacy. He's one of these guys who kind of

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Speaker 1: started because he comes out of biotech. He's a quote

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Speaker 1: who like has managed to get rich largely without actually

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Speaker 1: his fortune comes from. And he started kind of about

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Speaker 1: social media. He gets up to, you know, he's had

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Speaker 1: he and The Daily Wire start putting together a contract

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Speaker 1: a frightening, like a deeply upsetting amount of money to

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Speaker 1: do something that they haven't really done before, which is

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Speaker 1: This was like, we're launching a news and culture like

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Speaker 1: like the face of it, right, Yeah, with.

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Speaker 2: Like attempts at actual like a political analysis, mostly from

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And so that's the idea. And kind of

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Speaker 1: this meeting with a small group of who were described

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Speaker 1: his exciting plans. I'm going to read a quote from

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Speaker 1: that article. I'm going to run for president, Ramaswami sat

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Speaker 1: on the call. Ramaswami pitched himself as a candidate who

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Speaker 1: When met with some skepticism, Ramaswami argued that his candidacy

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Speaker 1: could also dissuade Florida Governor Ron De Santis from entering

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Speaker 1: In the lead up to his announcement, Ramaswami would tell

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Speaker 1: several other conservative activists that he believed that if he ran,

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Speaker 1: And it was also, you know, before the debate, it

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Speaker 1: He's not going to make jokes about the Holocaust. But

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Speaker 2: He was very it was very very intentionally positioning, positioning

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Speaker 2: It was also like the way he talked, like his

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Speaker 1: I'm want to put a pin in that, because we're

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Speaker 1: And the degree to which a significant number of folks

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Speaker 1: But you never fully want to say that in America.

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Speaker 1: There's no way to know, no way to know whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is that, you know, he has so

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Speaker 1: Nick and a lot of these guys on the fascist

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Speaker 1: youth right, they're huge into removing people from being able

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Speaker 1: to vote. You know, Nick himself is basically a monarchist

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Speaker 1: right like he wants a Catholic monarch.

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Speaker 2: He's like a Catholic monarchist fascist.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is not a fringe opinion.

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Speaker 1: talking about all the benefits of monarchy and protecting freedoms,

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Speaker 1: you know, they both talk about that. And the thing

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Speaker 1: ability to rile people up because of the way social

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Speaker 1: media has changed. He doesn't really use Twitter anymore. You know,

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Speaker 1: he made a post recently, but.

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Speaker 2: He made the first posting in years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got Elon very excited. But he can't really and

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Speaker 1: and he you know, he he loves to rant on

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Speaker 1: truth social but it doesn't break through the same way

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Speaker 1: stuff on Twitter did. And it's possible nothing on Twitter

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Speaker 1: can break through that way anymore because of how much

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Speaker 1: changed it is. You know, it's not the same Twitter

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Speaker 1: that he wrote.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's not the same Twitter it was in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty six now, not even the same Twitter it was

447
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, like it is no then severely altered

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Speaker 2: as a platform, and how it affects real so real

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Speaker 2: world events.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that you're seeing here is that

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Speaker 1: he does have his core, which is, you know, a

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Speaker 1: third or more of the GOP who will be right

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Speaker 1: or die for the rest of their lives, presumably, but

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Speaker 1: there is a softer chunk of support that is eroded

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Speaker 1: by him the fact that he's not in the limelight,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he wasn't up there, you know, slinging

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Speaker 1: mud and arguing and you know, talking with these other

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Speaker 1: candidates and so yeah, this is this is kind of

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Speaker 1: a thing you could It's probably a mistake. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying a mistake from a point of view being good

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Speaker 1: for the country, but a mistake in terms of like

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Speaker 1: his campaign, that he wasn't up there, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of worth acknowledging and probably worth continuing to study. And

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Speaker 1: it may be it may have the effect of pushing

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Speaker 1: him to take part in some of the other debates.

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Speaker 1: DeSantis has said he thinks Trump will be at the

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Speaker 1: third debate. Who knows in terms of how everyone else did. Uh,

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Speaker 1: DeSantis went up a little bit about a two point bump,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, not terrible, but it's also not significant,

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Speaker 1: especially given the size of Trump's lead. It's not the

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Speaker 1: kind of given the amount of cash burn he's been

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Speaker 1: going through, it's not the kind of rays he needed

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Speaker 1: to keep his campaign vibe.

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Speaker 2: It was what he did not do a performance that

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Speaker 2: people were kind of expecting him to do. And I

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Speaker 2: think everyone kind of assumed he would try really hard

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Speaker 2: to come out as the as like the obvious front runner,

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Speaker 2: and he kind of flopped at the debate in at

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Speaker 2: least in my opinion, he came off as very like

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Speaker 2: uh muted, very like low key. He didn't He didn't

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Speaker 2: really say much one way or the other. He was

483
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Speaker 2: so obsessed with with what other people like, trying to

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Speaker 2: make sure that what he was saying was okay based

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Speaker 2: on what everyone else was saying on stage. It was

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Speaker 2: very weird.

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Speaker 1: It was very weird and not the kind of energy

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Speaker 1: that suggests I am building a political machine, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and carry me into office. Pince went up by about

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Speaker 1: four points to seven percent of voter support. Uh, Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley jumped about five points, And I would say I

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Speaker 1: think DeSantis and Pence and probably Haley have are in

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Speaker 1: here because they really think they can win. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of those governors and stuff whose names

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Speaker 1: I've I've already forgotten that, so nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is like everyone knows Chris Christy is not going

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Speaker 2: to be the president, like we know, and he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not really, He's running to get a TV show

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Speaker 1: on MSN, right, maybe a book deal too. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's possible that's part of Haley's ambition too. I don't

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Speaker 1: really I don't have his great as sense for what's

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's how they're all treating Trump is interesting because

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Speaker 2: they're also all like kind of auditioning to be vice president,

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Speaker 2: but some of them don't want that job because they're

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Speaker 2: they're they're being like very like like anti Trump. On stage,

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Speaker 2: the most most people were soft to Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think Vivek was both auditioning for like

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Speaker 1: the future of his political I don't think he reasonably

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Speaker 1: expects to be president this election. I think he may

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Speaker 1: think he can win that in the future, and I

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Speaker 1: think he sees this as look, I'm young and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start building. Yeah, and if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: then he has done the first thing that he would

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Speaker 1: need to do to be a real candidate one day,

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Speaker 1: which is make a national name for himself as a

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Speaker 1: guy in politics. I think he may be auditioning for

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Speaker 1: vice president. And Trump recently commented like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not against the idea necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he was like impressed with his performance

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Speaker 2: at yeah, the debaters or something along those lines. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I mean the immediate reaction from almost almost every

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Speaker 2: kind of big like influential, millennial gen x kind of

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Speaker 2: right wing content creator person. They were all saying that

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Speaker 2: the VEC like very clearly won. Yeah, like all of

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Speaker 2: all of all of the Daily Wire people were very

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Speaker 2: we're very pro the VEK and kind of riding that train.

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Speaker 2: Ye Musk recently, even even even even before the debate,

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Speaker 2: switched sides from from being the Dysantis guy to being

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Speaker 2: the Thatch guy. So it was a lot of a

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Speaker 2: lot of like the intellectual dark right type type stuff

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Speaker 2: of like like online tech conservatives. They were all very

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Speaker 2: quick to jump on the xtrain and based on his

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Speaker 2: performance at the debate, they were happy with with his

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Speaker 2: overall demeanor and messaging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh yeah, so you know, again, as it

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Speaker 1: kind of stands, has anything changed, Well, yes and no.

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Speaker 1: Like the overall sweep of the primary, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: so far ahead that it does seem unlikely that he's

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Speaker 1: going to lose. But we all we've also seen it's

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Speaker 1: possible for him to bleed support, and if you remember

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Speaker 1: far back to twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, when he was

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Speaker 1: in these debates with the other Republican candidates, he didn't

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Speaker 1: really bleed support, like he was very consistently moving forward.

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Speaker 1: So that is interesting. That does suggest some things about

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Speaker 1: how the situation has changed. And uh yeah, it's also interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know, Poles kind of show that that voters did.

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Speaker 1: And maybe one of the reasons why Vivic's performance didn't

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Speaker 1: boost his campaign overall is that he entered into it

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Speaker 1: with the highest expectations of any of the debaters among

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Speaker 1: like Republican voters. Probably this is because you know, in

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Speaker 1: the speeches and stuff he's been given before, he's a

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Speaker 1: debate guy, like that's obvious about him anytime you hear

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Speaker 1: him talk. So I think people weren't expecting him to

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Speaker 1: do well, and so maybe it didn't. You know, if

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Speaker 1: people are expecting you to perform well and then you win.

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Speaker 1: It's not as impressive as a you know, if you

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Speaker 1: kind of come come out or left field there. So

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Speaker 1: maybe that's part of why he's not seeing stuff. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that's interesting to me is the stuff

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Speaker 1: that was talked about at the debate compared to what

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Speaker 1: actually Republican voters care about. The thing that came up

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Speaker 1: first in the debate is the thing that is number one,

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Speaker 1: getting inflation or costs under control. Obvious that that's going

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Speaker 1: to be top of the list for a lot of voters.

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Speaker 1: Of Republicans consider controlling immigration to be a primary concern,

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Speaker 1: which did come up a bit. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that pissed off a lot of the Daily Wire crew

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Speaker 1: is the fact that there wasn't really a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about wokeness or trans people during the debate, because

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Speaker 1: that kind of shit is not like fighting liberalism and

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Speaker 1: wokeness and President Biden like it all gets kind of

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Speaker 1: like lumped together about a third, you know, of the electorate.

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Speaker 1: That's their their big concern.

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Speaker 5: Among Republicans, it's primary for it's primarily for like online

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Speaker 5: clicks and for driving engagement on whatever Facebook thing you

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Speaker 5: want to do to harass the school board, and it

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Speaker 5: is not the.

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Speaker 2: Prime focus of the presidential.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and like the issues with trans people and stuff

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Speaker 1: on its own does not come up here as like

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Speaker 1: a major It's nobody's primary concern among Republican voters. Like

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Speaker 1: it's these weirdo freaks on the internet, Which isn't to

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Speaker 1: say that they have good attitudes towards that, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it makes sense that that's not going to be what

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Speaker 1: you put front and center in the debate. One thing

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Speaker 1: that's interesting to me is that both election security and

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Speaker 1: limiting abortion, which are huge issues and we're big parts

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Speaker 1: of the debate, are very much minor side show issues

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Speaker 1: for voters. About ten percent of voters consider of Republican

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Speaker 1: voters consider election integrity their primary concern. About six percent

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Speaker 1: considerate a limiting abortion a top priority, which is teeny right,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not a popular thing. They just have to

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Speaker 1: because of that hardcore of the base, they have to

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Speaker 1: signal for it.

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Speaker 2: The Veck was the only person on stage to claim

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Speaker 2: that climate change is not real.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, which was interesting, especially as this hurricane

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Speaker 1: batters Florida. And that's that's deeply negative to right. The

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Speaker 1: complete denial of reality. The it doesn't take long and

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Speaker 1: Vivek did not do this, but it's not a long

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Speaker 1: journey to go from I don't believe climate change is

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Speaker 1: real to I think those fires were started with lasers

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Speaker 1: from space, you know, and there and versions of that, right,

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Speaker 1: which is deeply concerning to me. But uh yeah, that's uh,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, the Republican debate and and Vivek Ramaswami,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of uh, our our thinking on him as

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Speaker 1: he embraces Nick Fuintes thought, boy, I don't love saying that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but like that my main my, my main

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Speaker 2: takeaway from this debate was that this was based on

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Speaker 2: the VEX performance based.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna cut out, have Daniel cut off from that,

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Speaker 1: my main performance. My main opinion was this was based

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, there we go. Garrison's debate analysis, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, based on the Ve's performance was that this really

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Speaker 2: was like the first glimpse of the types of like

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Speaker 2: long term results of the al right era in like

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Speaker 2: actual like organized politics. It's it's it's, it is, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is our first peek at like this upcoming online

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Speaker 2: conservative wave of zoomers and millennials who are you know,

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Speaker 2: between my age and Robert's age, who are gonna be

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Speaker 2: running for office in the next ten years who were

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Speaker 2: heavily influenced by the online al right era And that's

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Speaker 2: very worrying. I mean, we saw a little bit of

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Speaker 2: that with DeSantis' campaign staff sharing son videos videos that

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Speaker 2: were approved by like a lot of people in his staff.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't just one guy. We we we

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Speaker 2: have s found out that those videos were like approved

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Speaker 2: like in a in a in like a specific like

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Speaker 2: propaganda like chat that these people had I think, I

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Speaker 2: think on signal. Yeah, So like it is, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is part of like this this this wave that

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Speaker 2: we're just starting to see glimpses of here. And it's

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Speaker 2: not great, no, you know it it it It remains

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Speaker 2: to be seen like if these things will actually like

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Speaker 2: pan out in elections, though, I mean, like it doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem like the Vac's gonna do very well as an

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Speaker 2: actual presidential candidate during this race. Previously, when when when

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Speaker 2: when when Republicans have kind of ran on these very

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Speaker 2: kind of online topics, like back in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two midterms, it it it failed to give them kind

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Speaker 2: of the return on investment. So it's will still kind

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Speaker 2: of see how how kind of viable this strategy is.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, we're only going to have more and

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Speaker 2: more zoomers and millennials running for office. Like it's yeah,

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Speaker 2: as we saw today, Mitch McConnell's literally disintegrating before our

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Speaker 2: very eyes. Yes, and more and more of these kind

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Speaker 2: of old guard of neocons or Trump guys are going

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Speaker 2: to age out in the next ten years, twenty years,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's it's gonna we are. We are

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Speaker 2: really going to see this new wave of politicians come in.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting how much of jen X just has

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Speaker 2: not been a has not been a generation that occupies office.

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Speaker 1: No, well again, Garrison, you have not watched enough Mike

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Speaker 1: Judge cartoons. But that was made very clear in the

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Speaker 1: cartoon Daria. Wait, yes that is true. Yes, so I

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Speaker 1: I think so I kind of want to end I

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Speaker 1: think the uh Nope, that was not Mike Judge. What

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Speaker 1: what was I thinking? Why did I say that I'm

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Speaker 1: an I'm a I'm a fool. Oh wait, because it's

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Speaker 1: a spinoff of Beavis and Budd d Yes, that's why. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, I solved that mystery. Thank God. Now the

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Speaker 1: mystery I haven't solved. And the thing I want to

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Speaker 1: bring you to is, like we've said, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't think I there of us think his presidential campaign

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Speaker 1: has electoral shot. But what about him is VP? Do

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Speaker 1: you think that's that's likely? Personally?

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Speaker 2: There's certainly a chance, there's a chance. Trump has indicated

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Speaker 2: that that that there's a chance. I believe Trump said

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Speaker 2: he's a very very very intelligent person. He's got gergi

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Speaker 2: and he could and he could be some form of

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Speaker 2: something great, great Trumpian dialogue. I'll tell you, I think

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Speaker 2: he'd be very good as as vice president. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's which, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that his his his overall numbers

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Speaker 1: aren't trending up might hurt him in that although maybe

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Speaker 1: it'll make Trump feel more secure that he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: like take anything from him, you know, although maybe the

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Speaker 1: fact that he has gone so viral it would would

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Speaker 1: upset Trump because he kind of seems to have preferred

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Speaker 1: having a non entity as his VP.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because it is like, yeah, my previous

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Speaker 2: prediction was that he would try to get Herschel. That

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Speaker 2: maybe kind of out of date now Yeah, that is

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Speaker 2: certainly another one of these guys that that could be

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Speaker 2: in line. Certainly out of out of everyone else on

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Speaker 2: the debate stage, he was, Yeah, I think the most

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Speaker 2: the most Trumpian and the most like Trump friendly guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one other election kind of restriction that he proposed

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Speaker 2: that we have yet to mention is to raise the

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Speaker 2: voting age to twenty five. Yes, on top of having

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Speaker 2: those uh civics tests. But yeah, I mean I I

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Speaker 2: think it's possible, but it's it's a little too far

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Speaker 2: out to say for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well that is uh, I think

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna we're gonna bring her to an end

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Speaker 1: for the night.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been it could happen here until certainly,

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Speaker 1: it certainly could happen. Certainly could uh you know, stay

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Speaker 1: uh a little concerned.

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