WEBVTT - Get Buckets, It’s the Brooklyn Way with Erica L. Ayala

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome It's a good game with Sarah Spain, without Sarah Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the kids are in charge today.

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<v Speaker 2>Akaa, me producer and ME producer Alex. We can't promise

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<v Speaker 2>we won't break anything, but we will eat lots of

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<v Speaker 2>candy and definitely have some fun. On today's show, Misha

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<v Speaker 2>chats with multimedia journalist Erica l Ayala about New York's

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<v Speaker 2>path back to the WNBA Finals and what the Liberty

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<v Speaker 2>has to do to overcome the Minnesota Links, plus breaking

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<v Speaker 2>ground new shoes in women's sports in the wild.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all coming up right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. Here's what you need to know today. The

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<v Speaker 2>best of five WNBA Finals get underway tonight between the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Liberty and the Minnesota Links. New York will

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<v Speaker 2>host games one and two before the series heads to Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>The Liberty are aiming to win the franchise's first ever

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<v Speaker 2>WNBA title in their sixth finals appearance. The Links, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>will they're going for banner number five, but they're first

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty seventeen. Tonight's game tips off at eight pm

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern on ESPN. Now, I'm personally hoping that Fees daughter

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<v Speaker 2>Mila and Stewie's kids, Ruby and Theo get a good

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<v Speaker 2>play date out of this series. As for what to

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<v Speaker 2>expect on the court, Mish and Erica will get you

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<v Speaker 2>caught up on that in a bit. Elsewhere in the

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<v Speaker 2>w the Chicago Sky broke ground on a new training

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<v Speaker 2>facility on Wednesday. It's a thirty eight million dollar project

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<v Speaker 2>that is scheduled to be completed in December twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend of the show, Annie Costable was there reporting for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Sun Times, and she posted a video of

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<v Speaker 2>the groundbreaking that, to be totally honest, is pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The quote unquote groundbreaking didn't actually involve digging up the

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<v Speaker 2>actual ground that already existed on the site. Instead, they

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<v Speaker 2>brought in a stage dirt pit that was just big

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<v Speaker 2>enough so that the owners, execs, and players and attendance

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<v Speaker 2>each had enough room to make a little dirt pile

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<v Speaker 2>of their own. Still, it's great to see training facilities

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<v Speaker 2>have become a major game changer in WNBA free agency.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the start of last season, three teams Las Vegas, Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>and Phoenix have all opened up brand new facilities. To

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<v Speaker 2>college hoops, USC sophomore Juju Watkins has agreed to a

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<v Speaker 2>multi year contract extension with Nike. Per ESPN's sham Shrania.

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<v Speaker 2>It is reportedly one of the biggest shoe deals in

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<v Speaker 2>women's basketball history. Now quick refresher folks. As a freshman,

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<v Speaker 2>Watkins helped usc make its deepest NC DOUBLEA tournament run

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<v Speaker 2>in three decades, with the Trojans eventually losing to Yukon

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<v Speaker 2>in the Elite eight. Along the way, Watkins became the

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<v Speaker 2>all time freshman scoring leader in NC DOUBLEA women's basketball history,

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<v Speaker 2>recording nine hundred and twenty points. For reference, Caitlin Clark,

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<v Speaker 2>who became the NC doublea's all time career scoring leader

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<v Speaker 2>this spring, she scored seven hundred and ninety nine points

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<v Speaker 2>her freshman season at Iowa, so Juju has a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a head start, but will she make a run

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<v Speaker 2>for the all time record. Only time will tell. Moving

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<v Speaker 2>on to college soccer, on Tuesday, Duke earned the number

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<v Speaker 2>one spot in the United Soccer Coaches Poll for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time since nineteen ninety two, and tonight the Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Devils take on number seven Stanford AKA, last year's NCAA

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<v Speaker 2>runner up. Both teams have had stellar starts to the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four season, each with just one loss to date.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting that while these teams have played each

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<v Speaker 2>other a handful of times in recent years, Tonight's game

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<v Speaker 2>will actually be their first meeting as conference rivals. Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>joined the ACC this year following the implosion of the

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<v Speaker 2>PAC twelve, finally to the NWSL, and a new development

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<v Speaker 2>involving the San Diego Wave, Defector Media reported on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>that the team and league are being sued by five

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<v Speaker 2>former Wave employees over fifteen claims, including racial discrimination, sexual harassment,

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<v Speaker 2>and disability discrimination. The lawsuit does not name club president

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<v Speaker 2>Jill Ellis in the suit, but it does include lots

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<v Speaker 2>of examples meant to highlight her role in creating a

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<v Speaker 2>quote abusive and toxic workplace culture end quote. The five

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<v Speaker 2>former employees include Brittany Alverado, who spoke out against the

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<v Speaker 2>Wave on social media in July and was so subsequently

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<v Speaker 2>sued by Ellis for defamation. In statements to Defector, the

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<v Speaker 2>Wave and NWSL did not comment on specific allegations, citing

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<v Speaker 2>the ongoing legal action lots to unpack here. We'll link

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<v Speaker 2>to Defector's full story in the show notes, and plan

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss this more in detail on a future episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a quick break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Erica el Ayala gives us the lowdown on the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Liberty heading into the finals Keep It Locked. She

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<v Speaker 1>is a multimedia sports journalist at CBS Sports and the

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<v Speaker 1>creator of Black Rosy Media. She's a Day one New

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<v Speaker 1>York Liberty fan who is one of the go tos

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<v Speaker 1>for all things Liberty on the gott to Get Up podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a proud after Latina, a connector in the media space.

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<v Speaker 1>She's returned to thwart our podcast Thupple with Sarah while

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<v Speaker 1>she's away, and she's joining us from the airport on

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<v Speaker 1>her way back to New York for the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Erica el Ayala again.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Erica?

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<v Speaker 3>Let up? Misha Jones. Good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, good to have you back. It feels like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like early Rosy media days, right, you would be

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<v Speaker 1>were missing Brian Florentin shout out to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's good to have you on.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's get to the meat of this thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta start with the New York Las Vegas series. The

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<v Speaker 1>libs finished the job in four games. We saw fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>from Sabrinia Escu and Brianna Stewart all throughout JJ John

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<v Speaker 1>Quel Jones was solid and there were big plays made

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<v Speaker 1>by the entire supporting cast when their numbers were called.

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<v Speaker 1>So what went right for the Liberty to push him

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<v Speaker 1>over the hump in that series?

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<v Speaker 3>To you, what went right is that Sabrina took the keys.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I talk about this all the time. What

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<v Speaker 3>I loved. I'm going to go to game three real quick,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think that is it sets up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the story if we were writing like a comic book, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But game three, after Game three, when Sabrina said she

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<v Speaker 3>had three players coming at her at all times, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was talking about how difficult that was, and she

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<v Speaker 3>kept saying, this is great, this is great. We've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we know how to attack it. She said it

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<v Speaker 3>multiple times, this is great that we saw it and

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<v Speaker 3>now we make adjustments. And for me a few things

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<v Speaker 3>when talking about Sabrina, the confidence and the way that

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<v Speaker 3>she thinks and attacks the game of basketball. In that interview,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of my favorite interviews she's ever done, because

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<v Speaker 3>you can just tell, all right, this is a student

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<v Speaker 3>of the game, this is someone who respects and honors

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<v Speaker 3>the game. And so, first of all, I just love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Second of all, it's one thing to say, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>is great. Now we know what to see and now

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<v Speaker 3>we can fix it. It's one thing to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>But they did it, Misha yeh. They absolutely did it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we talked about it. You mentioned got to get up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Brian and I talked about that. Are we

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<v Speaker 3>going to see the New York Liberty play Sabrina off

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in what we on the podcast believe is

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<v Speaker 3>and I think what many people likely believe is her

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<v Speaker 3>true position at the two guard, and that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that's effective is because you have a Swiss

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<v Speaker 3>Army Knife, multiple time champion, multiple time All Star, multiple

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<v Speaker 3>time Olympic gold medalist in Brianna Stewart. Because I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking maybe Courtney Vanderslut gets more time, a true point guard,

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<v Speaker 3>a veteran point guard has started for the New York Liberty,

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<v Speaker 3>and instead what we saw was Stuie bringing up the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>So that now the New York Liberty to take it back,

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<v Speaker 3>not just just Sabrina but to the whole team. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they get back to what they feel is their best

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<v Speaker 3>shot when they play any team which is to make

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<v Speaker 3>other teams make the defense have to think very strategically

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<v Speaker 3>about switching off screens on defense. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a combination of Sabrini and Escu and the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Liberty being able to adapt and to adapt quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>They have so many weapons, right, It's like they can

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<v Speaker 1>morph into whatever they need to morph into whenever they

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<v Speaker 1>need to do it. You spoke a little bit there

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<v Speaker 1>about Sabrina and handing her the keys. That's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely wanted to press on here with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about on got to get up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about how the organization, the Liberty organization should be preparing

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<v Speaker 1>to give her the keys to the franchise. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's zero in on sab What did you like about

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<v Speaker 1>the way she performed in this series? What else did

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<v Speaker 1>you see from her in terms of her facilitation, not

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<v Speaker 1>just putting the ball in the basket? What made her

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<v Speaker 1>so effective?

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly want to talk about her leadership, because when

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<v Speaker 3>I talk about giving sab the keys first, the first

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<v Speaker 3>part of that, right phase one, if you will, was

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<v Speaker 3>her having the confidence to know like she's, if not

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<v Speaker 3>the go to one of the go tos on the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Liberty and I say that because you still

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<v Speaker 3>have John cole Jones, you still have Breonna Stewart, But

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<v Speaker 3>Nigelini can get hot. She's been playing injured, but she

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<v Speaker 3>can get hot. Leoni Phoebish can get hot. So she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have to put everything on her shoulders. But she

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<v Speaker 3>has to know that she can take the big shots,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've seen that. That's part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>I was the one voter who voted her most improved player.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been talking about it all year, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that we need to look at most improved in literally

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<v Speaker 3>the game. What are the parts of her game that

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<v Speaker 3>are in eight that are known as her bread and butter,

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<v Speaker 3>and what has she added to that. Sabrini a Escu

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<v Speaker 3>has added leadership. She's added better, not great, better defense,

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<v Speaker 3>and that first step is not as unquick as as

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<v Speaker 3>I have reported in the past. She's gotten quicker and

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<v Speaker 3>she's always been strong. After that first step, she's very strong.

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<v Speaker 3>But the leadership for me, the confidence and the leadership

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<v Speaker 3>has been what makes her the right person for this

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<v Speaker 3>New York Liberty squad. She's able to communicate alongside Brianna Stewart.

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<v Speaker 3>She's able to direct Brianna Stewart, and she has to

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<v Speaker 3>do that as a backcourt player. She has to do

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<v Speaker 3>that as a guard, whether she's the lead guard, the

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<v Speaker 3>shooting guard, whatever the case is. And the confidence, the

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<v Speaker 3>confidence to say after scoring, what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Does she even score seven?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like it was some crazy She's had single

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<v Speaker 3>digit in a semi final gain against the Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 3>Aces and is over here talking about this is great,

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<v Speaker 3>this is great. That's wild confidence to me that we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see. This is the same Sabrinian Escuhu and I

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this on the podcast a lot. She was

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<v Speaker 3>ill to her stomach in Game four of the WNB Finals.

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<v Speaker 3>Less than a year later, she is facilitating, she is

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<v Speaker 3>leading on the court, she is executing on defense and

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<v Speaker 3>offense to get the New York Liberty going. So for me,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why, that's what I saw, That's what I felt

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Liberty have always needed. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if they end up winning, you know, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about them peas until the next champ I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>like I've been telling you, I've been telling y'all for

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<v Speaker 3>two years she's she's she's got to take she's got

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<v Speaker 3>to take the wheel, and we've seen that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think the leadership part, outside of again some of the

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<v Speaker 3>other things that she's done just to improve her game,

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<v Speaker 3>that to me, is what's most important for the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Liberty this season.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think you got a really good point there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people, you know, they talk about mama mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>and sab is one of the few players who I

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<v Speaker 1>think really has it. You know, she's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>players who worked very closely with Kobe while he was

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<v Speaker 1>here with us. I think you talk about leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a big part of it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody could be in the position that

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<v Speaker 1>tab is in with a JJ, with a Brianna Stewart

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<v Speaker 1>who's excellent, with the Courtney Vanderslut who's a vet who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're not doing your job, Sandy Brondello

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<v Speaker 1>can just say, Okay, come here, Courtney, go in there,

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<v Speaker 1>fix with the mess that Sabrina made. But that is

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<v Speaker 1>not the case. Sabrina has stepped up to that challenge

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<v Speaker 1>for the Liberty, and it's just really it's really good

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<v Speaker 1>to see her hooping like this after dealing with injury,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming into the to her WNBA career. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's she's the best she's ever been this season.

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<v Speaker 1>But you did mention JJ and Leoni Phoebish. Both of

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<v Speaker 1>them had a lot of foul trouble in Game four

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<v Speaker 1>of that series and we're limited. How did New York

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<v Speaker 1>whether that storm? And are you confident that they could

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<v Speaker 1>fight through a similar situation against the Links.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this question because I think this is another

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<v Speaker 3>place where the New York Liberty as a team have matured.

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<v Speaker 3>So Leoni Phoebish, We've been talking Brian and I about

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<v Speaker 3>how Leoni Foebish reminds me of early New York Liberty

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<v Speaker 3>Rebecca Allen, like to the point where like I'm talking Rebecca,

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<v Speaker 3>not Beck, but Rebecca beca Rebecca Okay, full government, just

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<v Speaker 3>like you know Sandra Brondela. But Rebecca Allen is the

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<v Speaker 3>LEO before LEO is on the New York Liberty. Long

0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:40.079
<v Speaker 3>can stretch the defense because they have a perimeter shot

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<v Speaker 3>makes switches difficult defensively because of their wingspan, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>Rebecca Allen had difficulty with her timing sometimes on defense

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<v Speaker 3>because you have that wingspan, sometimes you rely on the

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<v Speaker 3>reach too much instead of moving your feet. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Leo has better footwork, but also can struggle a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit because of her size with timing and knowing kind

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<v Speaker 3>of when to put her hands up, and she gets

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<v Speaker 3>caught with those kind of tiki tak fouls. They are fouls,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, I mean in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she gets caught with those a lot because

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<v Speaker 3>of when she's switching on someone shorter than her, which

0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:23.679
<v Speaker 3>happens because of her size. So with Leo, some of

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<v Speaker 3>that is just a learning curve, and the New York

0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Litter Liberty are going to have to just absorb that

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<v Speaker 3>because she's she's still a rookie. I think what they

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<v Speaker 3>did is they used Leo in bursts and then they

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<v Speaker 3>were able to go back to Courtney Vanderslut, who we

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<v Speaker 3>saw getting more significant minutes. And with Courtney Vanderslut, at

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<v Speaker 3>first the question was is she going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot if a team leaves her open, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>been hesitant throughout the playoffs at times, but now seeing

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<v Speaker 3>that Leo's been in a little bit of trouble, getting

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<v Speaker 3>more into the groove and understanding. Now, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 3>my role. I've agreed to this role to come in

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<v Speaker 3>as a reserve and the game plan might switch. I

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<v Speaker 3>need to be able to tap into and have the

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<v Speaker 3>confidence to tap back into that skill set. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what we're I'm hoping that's what we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see for the Liberty's sake from Courtney Vanderslut in relation

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<v Speaker 3>to Leo, that's how they handle that now with JJ.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not that Leo doesn't get this approach, but

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<v Speaker 3>we've also talked about JJ is a maturing player. She's

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<v Speaker 3>getting into she's out of those baby vet years and

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<v Speaker 3>she's getting into true veteran WNBA veteran status. And with

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<v Speaker 3>that has come she has to play with a certain

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<v Speaker 3>amount of calm that she's been a little flustered in

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<v Speaker 3>the last handful of games, and that's by design. And

0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota has done that Commissioner's Cup, you know, they beat

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<v Speaker 3>them twice in the regular season, and the way they

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<v Speaker 3>were able to do that is frustrate JJ early with

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<v Speaker 3>John Quell Jones. You heard the team, the New York

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<v Speaker 3>Liberties say when that's happening with JJ, they're just pouring

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<v Speaker 3>into JJ. Hey, that's all right, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We need you, we need you. Let's focus on what

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<v Speaker 3>we need to do. Don't worry about that. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>she got frustrated, even kind of you know, popped up,

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<v Speaker 3>and it ends up running into her head. Coach, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that that level of frustration for JJ can easily

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<v Speaker 3>take her out of the game. And that's exactly what

0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota or any opponent is going to want to do

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<v Speaker 3>with John call Jones well when she played with the

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<v Speaker 3>Connecticut Son So for the New York Liberty, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be critically important. I think it was. Was it

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<v Speaker 3>Lauren Holliday who said in an interview, she's like, with

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Morgan, my job, I felt My job was to

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<v Speaker 3>remind her, hey, you're Alex Morgan and we need you.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 3>You are Alex Morgan, you are at the top. You

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<v Speaker 3>are the best. And it's not blowing smoke. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a player that can be such a

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<v Speaker 3>game changer as their teammate, you need them to be

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<v Speaker 3>operating at peak performance at all times. So you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want them thinking about any of them negative. Save that

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<v Speaker 3>for film session, all right, save that save that from

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<v Speaker 3>behind closed doors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>On the court, everything you do is golden and we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna keep it that way. That's how the New York

0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Liberty want to and have been operating with John cole

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<v Speaker 3>Jones because they do need her on the court. I

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<v Speaker 3>think their best when she gets touches on the offensive

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<v Speaker 3>side within the first ten seconds of the shot clock.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sandy Brondelo has said it right, She's called JJ

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<v Speaker 1>the most important piece. She says, when JJ gets a

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<v Speaker 1>double double, we win. The stats have proven that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's gonna be a really important point

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<v Speaker 1>of emphasis for New York heatting into the finals. But

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the finals, Erica, let's do a little vibe

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<v Speaker 1>check here. This season, compared to last year, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking a lot about this team in the playoffs after

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<v Speaker 1>y'all beat my Mystics. You know, we had a lot

0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of conversations about this Liberty team. But you, as a

0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.800
<v Speaker 1>lifelong Liberty fan, how are you feeling entering this series

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<v Speaker 1>this season?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I probably would use different language, but

0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.160
<v Speaker 3>the New York Liberty have said, we haven't done anything yet,

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<v Speaker 3>and honestly, that's kind of how I feel like. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're asking me as someone who's watched this team, who

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<v Speaker 3>has a vested emotional interest in how the New York

0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Liberty perform as a New Yorker, then yes, that's how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel. I think it's so let me break that down.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my you know, coded you know, sports way of saying,

0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.200
<v Speaker 3>at least for me, I'm not putting this on the

0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.000
<v Speaker 3>New York Liberty. I'm putting this on me squarely. Of course,

0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.920
<v Speaker 3>there's nerves, of course, you know, it's respect for what

0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota has done. And you know, I know what the

0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Liberty got. I know what they got. They maybe ain't

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<v Speaker 3>one nothing yet, but if they do what they have

0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 3>to do, then then they'll be exactly where they want

0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 3>to be. And it's interesting. So now, as an analyst,

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<v Speaker 3>right as a as a journalist, I my predictions early

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<v Speaker 3>on as far as who would make the final, I

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<v Speaker 3>always had the Liberty making the final. Preseason I had

0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Liberty Son almost saw that, and then right before the

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<v Speaker 3>postseason I have I had Liberty links. So that's right

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<v Speaker 3>where we are now. In both preseason and right before postseason,

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.359
<v Speaker 3>I had the Liberty losing in the finals. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>because this is a better New York Liberty squad, and

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see the maxie I'm a New Yorker,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, like you know, I'm an underdog New Yorker

0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:24.119
<v Speaker 3>at that, Like this is.

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<v Speaker 1>What I wanted to get at, because we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot last night.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what's going to be interesting about this finals,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure we'll get to this. The Minnesota Links

0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:38.000
<v Speaker 3>team is very similarly built to this New York Liberty squad,

0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 3>length in all positions, and they want you to have

0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.439
<v Speaker 3>problems switching when they're when they're running their offensive sets.

0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.119
<v Speaker 3>They want that to be a nightmare for their opposition.

0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.919
<v Speaker 3>And the Minnesota Links and beat the New York Liberty.

0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 3>So coming into the postseason, I was like, if we

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<v Speaker 3>get that finals, you gotta think the Links have earned

0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the benefit of the doubt in that series. And as

0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.320
<v Speaker 3>we stand here right now, the New York Liberty have

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.600
<v Speaker 3>continued to get even better since the postseason began. They

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 3>continue to say things like we're not done yet. I'm

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 3>telling you that interview with sabrinian Escu one of my

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.440
<v Speaker 3>top favorite athlete interviews of ever. Okay, we saw it

0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and like, that's so New York to me, okay, and.

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 1>That's the mentality you have to have when you're exactly

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>in a situation like this, you know what I mean, Like,

0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you what are you going to do? Just

0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:34.879
<v Speaker 1>sit there and wallow in it? That's not how you

0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.400
<v Speaker 1>get to a finals, correct. I think to your point

0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.760
<v Speaker 1>earlier in our conversation, I think you know, her mentality

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>has been kind of one of the mentalities that this

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 1>whole team has taken on. I think, you know, a

0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.840
<v Speaker 1>superstar like Stewie, She's always going to be here, you

0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:50.399
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's it's kind of how I

0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.439
<v Speaker 1>feel about Fee on the other side, right, they're always

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be right Now to Yukon kids, what it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a coincidence, right, But Okay, So now we

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>got to move on to the difference in where these

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>two teams are coming in. New York's had three full

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>days of rest, no games, nothing going on. Minnesota will

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 1>be forty eight hours out from the end of game five.

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.639
<v Speaker 1>What role do you believe fatigue is gonna play in

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<v Speaker 1>this matchup?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think it's gonna be huge, especially knowing that

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota has to play two games at Barclays. So you're

0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 3>changing time zones and Brooklyn is a hard place to play.

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.560
<v Speaker 3>That's been proven this year and the New York Liberty

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.199
<v Speaker 3>have been leaning into After every win at Barclays, they

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 3>make it a point to give love. Spread love is

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 3>to Brooklyn way they give love to their fans. Sabrino

0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.720
<v Speaker 3>was shown giving love to the New York Liberty fans

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.560
<v Speaker 3>in Vegas when they won Game four. This New York team,

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.280
<v Speaker 3>and it's a very New York thing. You love us

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.439
<v Speaker 3>or you hate us, but we there either way. And

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that's the fans like sometimes, you know, we were the

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 3>first ones to let you know about yourself. This is

0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.160
<v Speaker 3>a very uh you know, and we've seen, you know,

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.680
<v Speaker 3>with sabridion Escu and Spike Lee saying like New York

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.840
<v Speaker 3>has been injected into their veins. Like that's gonna be huge.

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 3>So the Minnesota Links, that's a real thing. They're gonna

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 3>have to overcome that, and they have the disadvantage there.

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.320
<v Speaker 3>I think also what's gonna come into play when you

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:19.119
<v Speaker 3>look at these rosters is what is the bench gonna do?

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 3>So the Minnesota bench in their last game against the

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<v Speaker 3>Kid the Connecticut Son in Game five, Minnesota got nine

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 3>points from their bench. Connecticut got eleven, So Minnesota lost

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 3>that battle against Connecticut. And if the New York Liberty

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Speaker 3>play as they've been playing all year, they should be

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 3>able to beat that. If the New York Liberty bench

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 3>is only scoring nine points, something's not working. So that's

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 3>an advantage for the New York Liberty. Where I think

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 3>the New York Liberty, or I should say, let me

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 3>rephrase it, where I believe Minnesota will want to try

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 3>to win back some momentum, especially on the road in

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Game one and two, including the fact that there's gonna

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 3>be fatigue. I mean, it's just one of those things,

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>like it is what it is. Where they have to

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:15.120
<v Speaker 3>be able to shine is in the paint. Now that

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 3>goes back to something that we already talked about. They

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 3>have to find a way to disrupt junk Wold Jones.

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.160
<v Speaker 3>They're not gonna stop everybody. The New York Liberty are

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:27.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna get points in the paint. That's gonna happen. Minnesota

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 3>is gonna get points in the paint. Minnesota can if

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.960
<v Speaker 3>they really want to. They can and have already done

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 3>so They've beat New York Liberty in points in the paint.

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 3>They can beat the New York Liberty in the rebound battle. Again,

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 3>that goes back to why Junkle Jones and her double

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 3>double is so important. But if I were Minnesota, I

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 3>think that's what they're gonna want to do. Establish that

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 3>that's gonna be a hard battle because then if it

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 3>comes to a shootout again two similar teams, we know

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 3>both teams can shoot from the perimeter. I'd probably give Minnesota.

0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 3>They en at this point in the season when it

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 3>comes to shooting from the perimeter, and we saw that

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 3>come into play against Connecticut in the semi finals. Yeah.

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the other big component of scoring points

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in the paint for Minnesota is the Fisa Collier, right,

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.919
<v Speaker 1>she has been I've heard her described as a ballerina

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 1>in the paint. She's extremely efficient, I mean her and

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>it's true. Her agility down there. It scares me some

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>of the moves that she makes because I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>about your knees, what about your ankles? What about you know?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why Fee is a pro. And she started

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<v Speaker 1>off the playoffs with two forty point games in a

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<v Speaker 1>sweep of the Phoenix Mercury in the semis. It felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Connecticut had her number a little bit, but by

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<v Speaker 1>game five she was back to being an unstoppable force.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does New York save or solve excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fee equation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what you do is similarly to what the

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<v Speaker 3>Aces did against Sabrina Enescu. You make things very difficult

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<v Speaker 3>in the backcourt. So it's difficult to feed the ball

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<v Speaker 3>to Fee. I think that the FISA collier can bring

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<v Speaker 3>up the ball. But can she do it as well

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<v Speaker 3>and expertly as uh as Brianna Stewart has done. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think so, not yet. I don't think she's been

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<v Speaker 3>asked to do that. So if you can put the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in Fee's hands higher up and have her bring

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<v Speaker 3>up the ball and try to switch things there make

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<v Speaker 3>things difficult for the backcourt, I'd be curious to see

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<v Speaker 3>if that's something we see from the New York Liberty,

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<v Speaker 3>just because that's a way that you can neutralize a

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<v Speaker 3>player in the paint by making sure that they have

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<v Speaker 3>more responsibilities outside of the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, last question here, because we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up for time. Erica, yes or no? Will the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty win this series? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm gonna give you an answer. You can

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<v Speaker 3>tell I don't like I don't like this, yes or no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do my job. I'm gonna do my job,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't like this. I'm gonna and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say what I have to say, and then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>explain what I'm going through right now, all right? The

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<v Speaker 3>New York Liberty do have what it takes to win

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<v Speaker 3>their first title. The New York Liberty do have what

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<v Speaker 3>it takes to stop the Minnesota Links from winning a

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<v Speaker 3>fifth title. This series is going five. It's going five,

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<v Speaker 3>and the New York Liberty are they going to win?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I said, I said Links before the postseason started,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Liberty have played in a way that makes

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<v Speaker 3>me think that maybe I picked wrong. So I do

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<v Speaker 3>think the New York Liberty have a chance if they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do it though it's going five. That's my final

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<v Speaker 3>answer now the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>I said what I said. You could ask the questions

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<v Speaker 3>and I answer them how I choose. No, like, I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't. I'm just a person in general, especially

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<v Speaker 3>when it's a New York team. I don't like making

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<v Speaker 3>predictions because to me as an as an analyst. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I watch the games, but we're not performing in the games.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like you know, it's it's several steps from

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<v Speaker 3>even a coach, and I think it's important to honor

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<v Speaker 3>and respect what players do on the court. So I

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<v Speaker 3>can give you a prediction. I'm not saying it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be right, But if the New York Liberty win a title,

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<v Speaker 3>it's happening that it has to go to five. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're gonna be pushed to the brink. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see them winning. I don't see them sweeping,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't see them getting through in four. If

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Liberty win, they're gonna have to earn it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said they ain't done nothing yet, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>to beat the best to be the best, and the

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<v Speaker 3>second best team is who they're taking on. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>are they gonna do it? I don't know. I honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I genuinely do not know. I don't have a feeling

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<v Speaker 3>one way or another. If if the question is is

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<v Speaker 3>New York gonna win, I don't know. And if they do,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very confident that they're gonna have to do it

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<v Speaker 3>in five games.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Erica for taking the time. You

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<v Speaker 1>know I always love talking to you. When we return,

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<v Speaker 1>we ask you to put your ears to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>See you on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back slices. All right, quick storytime. A couple weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at an art fair and I overheard a

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<v Speaker 2>woman who makes these little cute felt animals talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Asia Wilson's greatness. Now I don't know this woman, I

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<v Speaker 2>have never seen her before, and yet she was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about women's sports with respect and accuracy and passion. And

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I do not have enough of this in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I want to encounter more strangers in the

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<v Speaker 2>wild talking about women's sports, which brings us to today's

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<v Speaker 2>good gameplay of the day. I want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Sarah and Misha also want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your stories about meeting strangers who know just

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<v Speaker 2>as much as you, or maybe even more, about women's sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget to subscribe, rate and review. It is

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<v Speaker 1>literally so easy watch clothes that don't fit true to size.

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<v Speaker 1>Rating negative a billion out of five stars review. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I got the game messed up, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point in giving sizes and measurements was so

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<v Speaker 1>that folks who are ordering clothes have an accurate reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're gonna receive. That just sounds reasonable to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So why are there so many discrepancies in sizing? I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get it. I mean, I understand that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>certain brands or certain styles have slight alterations to the

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<v Speaker 1>way they fit on the body. For example, the kids

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<v Speaker 1>are loving the cropped boxy T shirt look right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't hold you. I got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>those teas myself, with the big sleeves and all that

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff. I totally get it. But all I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>is if the size you've got listed on the site,

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<v Speaker 1>are on the tack in store is not the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the garment itself, just say that. It'll save us

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<v Speaker 1>all a lot of time and a lot of turmoil. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel better. I got that off my chest. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's your turn, rate and review.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening, See you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Game, Erica, Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, Juju. You to the fact that the WNBA season's

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<v Speaker 2>gotta end?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we just get a little bonus series?

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