WEBVTT - I Hate Birds & Fish! Screw 'Em!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jettaty and know He Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the situation with the water obviously in the

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<v Speaker 3>palisage that ran out last night in the hydrants.

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<v Speaker 2>The local folks are trying to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just when you have a system that it's

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<v Speaker 4>not dissimilar to what we've seen in other extraordinarily large

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<v Speaker 4>scale fires, whether it be pipe electricity or whether it

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<v Speaker 4>just be the complete overwhelm of the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to believe Gavin Newsom getting on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone with some people why the hydrants were an out

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<v Speaker 1>of water. I need an answer because that's a bad story.

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<v Speaker 1>The hydrants run similar to other situations. He's a pot

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll tell you. If there's one place I could

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<v Speaker 1>be right now anywhere in the world, it'd be close

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<v Speaker 1>enough to Barack Obama and Donald Trump, who were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the second row at the National Cathedral in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>DC waiting for the Jimmy Carter funeral to start. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the role of the ex president's man. The most exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>club in the world and people with a better view

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<v Speaker 1>of the way things really work than anybody who lives.

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<v Speaker 1>But Barack Obama's now bending Trump's here. They are in

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<v Speaker 1>a NonStop conversation and both of them laughing now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>and Barack Obama's just shaking his head like rolled his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and laughed, and they're talking about I would freaking

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<v Speaker 1>love to know what they're talking about. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>if it's anything of consequence or is it like really

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<v Speaker 1>minor stuff just to make small talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is a presidential small talk, That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm he knowing. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeh, DC and

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<v Speaker 3>the White House and the inauguration and the press and

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>And famously, if you're into this sort of stuff, former

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<v Speaker 1>presidents often have way more respect for each other then

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<v Speaker 1>you might guess based on the way things were when

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<v Speaker 1>they were all fighting each other. And I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>Barack and Trump are in that category. Oh it's guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, They've both done a job that is impossible and

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<v Speaker 3>ages you like a dog, and so there is a

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<v Speaker 3>bond even if you disagree fairly vehemently. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>say one thing and make it clear because we have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, made various comments, whether lighthearted, about some of

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<v Speaker 3>the things happening at the funeral or Carter's presidency and

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. I believe Jimmy Carter was a

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<v Speaker 3>good man who lived a good life. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>was ill suited to the job for which he is

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<v Speaker 3>being remembered. He was not a good president, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think respect to him and his family and those who

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<v Speaker 3>loved him upon his passing is absolutely appropriate. I think

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<v Speaker 3>worshipfulness is weird and off putting. You know, we can

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<v Speaker 3>certainly give criticism of his administration arrest during the funeral,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine, but there is a difference between having respect

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<v Speaker 3>for a human being and suspending your not only you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>but your duty as an American to understand where his

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<v Speaker 3>presidency went terribly wrong. But again, we could give it

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<v Speaker 3>a rest for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the presidents that are still alive, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all sitting there and I'm watching on TV. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>looks one hundred and twenty years old. He walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and sat down with his mouth hanging open, and that

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<v Speaker 1>blank stare that he has. He's the current president with

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<v Speaker 1>all those former presidents, and he's the oldest guy in

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<v Speaker 1>those first two pews and looks by far the oldest,

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<v Speaker 1>and looks the oldest and acts the oldest. Yes, why

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<v Speaker 1>did we Why are you going back clear to Bush

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<v Speaker 1>won all those people? Well, I mean you're going way back. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton's there, that's ninety two. The guy that one

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<v Speaker 1>is not with us, but I mean Bush too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest guy there is Joe Biden, the current president.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an odd thing for America to decide.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, if we need this, and we probably don't,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's worth contemplating for another ten seconds. The fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the Democratic Party, the Biden administration, and the media

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<v Speaker 3>we're all telling us is recently is you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>early part of last year, the middle part of last year,

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<v Speaker 3>that he was good to go for another four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing could be more dishonest or ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, last hour, we played the clip Joe Biden did

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with USA Today and said he thinks he

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<v Speaker 1>would have won, which is, well, here's David Atzorrod, who

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<v Speaker 1>ran Obama's campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what he has to say about that. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 5>had a forty approval rating. I don't think there's a

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<v Speaker 5>president who's won reelection with an approval rating that low.

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<v Speaker 5>So you look, you know, one has to comfort oneself

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<v Speaker 5>in these moments, and you know that's probably what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's nuts to think that he would

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<v Speaker 5>have won that election.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nuts to think won He went from painstaking, painstakingly diplomatic.

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<v Speaker 2>To he's a nut. It's not pretty quickly he would

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<v Speaker 2>have won. Yeah, damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>What is Trump saying to Barack Obama that's making Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama throw back his head and laughter. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know what he'll never know. No, I won't, you

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<v Speaker 1>will never know. Uh Dovetailing from our conversational last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate Mike the lawyer in Chicago recognizing the Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Getty unified theory of civilizations. Talking about Carter's administration, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>Carter's policies are a great example of what you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about with the guardrails, Vietnam and Watergate made it easy

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<v Speaker 1>to adopt passivity and imagineering. When Carter came in, we

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<v Speaker 1>overcorrected and flipped the car in the ditch. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a really good analysis right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>So coming up an extended discussion of DOGE and what

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<v Speaker 3>exactly it might be able to accomplish and what the

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<v Speaker 3>roadblocks will be. To paraphrase, I think it was a lick.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you all live in who is an absolutely brilliant

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<v Speaker 3>writer and thinker, Jack, I know you, you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff. He says, it could be a complete waste

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<v Speaker 3>of everyone's time. That's usually how reform commissions go. But

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<v Speaker 3>Musk is no slouch, and the idea has drawn the

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<v Speaker 3>cooperation of an array of tech sector and entrepreneurial talent,

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<v Speaker 3>including favek Ramaswami, and needs to be taken seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I think the biggest thing that's going

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<v Speaker 1>for Musk versus you know, two senators that ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't know. Everybody knows who Elon Musk is.

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<v Speaker 1>He can say something and everybody hears it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>he when he runs into these roadblocks, at least he

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<v Speaker 1>can say it out loud and say, hey, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a government where you can't fire anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Did everybody know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because a couple of senators doing this in a hearing

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<v Speaker 1>a year from now and explaining the difficulties, nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>hears that stuff right now, whether they are like surpassingly

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<v Speaker 1>successful and they just did the Doge thing just totally

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<v Speaker 1>turns the country around. I don't think that's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like this spouse who's been begging his

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<v Speaker 1>or her spouse to go to the doctor, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is at least a trip to the doctor where a

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosis will be given, where somebody who will not be

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<v Speaker 1>ignored will say a great example. Do you know we've

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<v Speaker 1>got millions of people who don't get fired no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how bad a job they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean everybody should know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's even if it is just a

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<v Speaker 1>minimal success, we'll keep our It'll be great. We'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>our in the funeral and try to read lips. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that story and a whole bunch of other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>All five living former presidents gathered for the Jimmy Carter funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>More on that if anything happens. I do have some

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<v Speaker 1>more comments to make. Their procession is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, we will bring that to you if it develops.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden recently with his eyes closed for a prolonged

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<v Speaker 3>period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a spiritual man. He's also one hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a decent chance he falls asleep and

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<v Speaker 1>tumbles into the aisle.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, boy, that would make the headlines. Anyway, stay

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<v Speaker 3>with us, you've all Livin, who's a brilliant guy. One

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<v Speaker 3>of a couple of people I want to quote talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the Doge project is this Elon Musk and Vivek

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<v Speaker 3>Kramaswami in company's effort to reign in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's spending And we'll get more into specifics in

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<v Speaker 3>a second, but I just saw the headline. For what

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth, Elon Musk has ascended to like the top

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<v Speaker 3>five or something like that in world.

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<v Speaker 1>Rankings in some sort of video game. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he How does he have time? He says he's the

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<v Speaker 1>best video game player in the world. When he was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was the world champion, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have as much time to do it now, but he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he's the best in the world at most

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<v Speaker 1>of those games.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if we were to extract his brain from a

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<v Speaker 3>skull and you know, learn everything we could, science isn't

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<v Speaker 3>at a point where we would learn much. But his

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<v Speaker 3>brain does not work the way the rest of us are.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of them are definitely definitely not no.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, so you've all.

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<v Speaker 3>Levin writes that surely there is a need for some

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<v Speaker 3>creative thinking about combating efficiency in government. Everybody knows that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe DOGE could have some potential, but to generate more

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<v Speaker 3>than memes and slogans, it needs to quickly nail down

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<v Speaker 3>several key particulars about its goals, its structures.

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<v Speaker 2>It's approached because they're kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Vague for all to talk about doge It's basic ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still pretty murky. As he points out.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite correctly, I think it's champions seem to have in

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<v Speaker 3>mind dramatically reducing federal spending, sharply curtailing the federal workforce,

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<v Speaker 3>and fundamentally reforming federal regulatory policy. And he points out,

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<v Speaker 3>and I agree completely, only the last of these is

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<v Speaker 3>really worth Doge's time and attention. It pains me to

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<v Speaker 3>skip over the sharply curtailing the federal workforce thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>we can get to I that's hard. But you've all

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<v Speaker 3>points out the notion that a committed billionaire tech executive

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<v Speaker 3>with no political experience is going to massively reduce federal

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<v Speaker 3>spending by focusing on waste is just the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>bain banal delusion that causes Washingtonians to roll their eyes

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<v Speaker 3>at the whole idea of Doge because.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Nashville have you writing about how Elon a

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<v Speaker 1>super smart guy. Nobody's doubting that. But he was not

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<v Speaker 1>into politics his whole life. He's just like started paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to this recently. So he's having, like in his

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<v Speaker 1>head and with other people, a lot of the arguments

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<v Speaker 1>that people who are into politics, you know, have when

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<v Speaker 1>they're much much younger and realize, okay, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>points that everybody makes. Because he's having some of the

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<v Speaker 1>same tired arguments on his Twitter feed that yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that part like those of us who pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to this, you're new to this.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the same way I often say, evidence does

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily equal proof. Good things do not necessarily equal

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<v Speaker 3>a solution. For instance, if they were to get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of all of the waste and fraud and abuse in

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<v Speaker 3>discretionary spending, that would be a great thing. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to come near solving our budgetary problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't that matter a lot? Morally though, or just morally

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<v Speaker 2>etally directionally.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just pains me so much that we

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<v Speaker 1>have so many agencies employees that aren't needed, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm trying to make clear. Do it

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<v Speaker 1>as fast and as viciously as you can, bloody some noses.

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<v Speaker 1>Do everything you can to get rid of that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about, and to make it more efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, remember that discretionary spending is absolutely dwarfed

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<v Speaker 1>by our entitlement programs and will and uh, and the

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<v Speaker 1>one is on the wane as a shriff GDP, the

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<v Speaker 1>other one's on the rise. So the relationship is getting

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<v Speaker 1>even more skewed. And Trump said entitlement reform is not

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<v Speaker 1>on his agenda. I had one of the most depressing

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<v Speaker 1>but enlightening thoughts I've ever had. And again political hacks

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<v Speaker 1>would laugh at me for this, just really having it

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<v Speaker 1>come into my head perfectly clearly. If I'm a Republican,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a consultant, like really really in the know

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<v Speaker 1>with my pulse on the voters and all, I would

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<v Speaker 1>tell my candidate, dude, you're railing against or or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>ma'am because women can hold office now these days. To Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, my friend you're one hundred percent right

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<v Speaker 1>about how we need entitlement reform, about how we're spending

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<v Speaker 1>our children's and grandchildren's money, how it's the greatest deft

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of mankind, from one generation stealing from another.

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<v Speaker 3>All of this is true, and it is repugnant. I

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<v Speaker 3>hate it to my soul. But if you hang your

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<v Speaker 3>hat on that, you will lose and you will accomplish nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>If you shut up about that, we can roll back

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<v Speaker 3>the perversion of our kids in the woke schools. We

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<v Speaker 3>can cut the federal workforce and make it more efficient.

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<v Speaker 3>We can form great trade relationships. We can punch China

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<v Speaker 3>in the nose and make sure they don't take over

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<v Speaker 3>the globe. We can accomplish all sorts of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you keep talking about entitlements, you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna do any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love it if we could get all those

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<v Speaker 1>former presidents sitting in the first two pews there in

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<v Speaker 1>a national cathedral. I would love to have this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Honestly, wouldn't it be awesome to have them

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<v Speaker 1>in a room. I would ask them the question, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you see this playing out? You all know the

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<v Speaker 1>structural problems we have and where we're headed. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you see this playing out? Bill Clinton, George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama? What do you think is going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they have to have an answer in their head.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I think they do. Yeah, getting back to my screen,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think most of them would say?

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<v Speaker 3>There is no way to pass any meaningful reform until

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<v Speaker 3>it is an emergency. We've tried and there is no

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<v Speaker 3>taste for it among the voters. It's way too easy

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<v Speaker 3>to scare them off. So we just have to wait

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<v Speaker 3>to leave them here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes see.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I've said this before, but my concern is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got this from you, all ofvin who you're

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<v Speaker 1>reading from, and this was the scariest thing I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard about this stuff. It's not going to be an emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always pictured it being some sort of cataclysmic Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, the alarms are going off. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. Everybody understands it. We cut this, we raise taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>we fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>He says. That's not the way it's going to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to become a less dynamic, slower moving,

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<v Speaker 1>bogged down, less fans, less powerful, high tax harder to

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<v Speaker 1>get a business started country and yeah we'll be France.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we'll just be France. And it will happen kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gradually, and older people who remember what it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be like will die, and everybody will just think

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<v Speaker 1>this is what life is like. That to me is

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<v Speaker 1>the scariest outcome of all. One, I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the way it will happen. And two I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you ever turn that around.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right again, my foe Republican consultant's screen. I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to understand. I loathe that, I despise it. But

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<v Speaker 3>if there's one thing that being a conservative is, it's

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<v Speaker 3>being a realist. And I've got to I just got

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<v Speaker 3>to come to terms with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Levin points out that the federal government actually has about

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<v Speaker 3>as many employees as it did a half century ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the government's reach and scope and an enormous amount

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<v Speaker 3>of contractors that have grown, and so the key is

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<v Speaker 3>not so much the number of the workforce, but the

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<v Speaker 3>scope of what the government does and how it does

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<v Speaker 3>it through regulations and executive branch, contractors and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is a good clarification. Can they actually

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<v Speaker 3>close can they delete a federal agency. There are serious

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<v Speaker 3>legal hurdles and you would have to have the cooperation

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<v Speaker 3>of Congress. Can't get in to this in a meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 3>We're up against a heartbreak. But maybe we can reset

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<v Speaker 3>that down the road, because I mean, how many of

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<v Speaker 3>us want the Department of Education gone? A majority of

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<v Speaker 3>parents to Polder just came out. It's a very small majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel I was in was across the street from the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Education in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an enormous building with a lot of employees. And

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<v Speaker 1>to think we could do away with that and have

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<v Speaker 1>more local control and how I have that money stay

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<v Speaker 1>at home?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think it'll happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, and just not have the the woke bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 3>of d C playing the tune that local schools are

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to dance to.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We will check in on the horrifying fires that continue

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<v Speaker 1>in LA today. Oh my god, big portions of cities

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<v Speaker 1>that are completely gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody calls everything historic these days. This is an historic

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<v Speaker 3>catastrophe for Los Angeles in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest fire in LA's hitty already most devastating and climbing

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<v Speaker 1>up the ranks for the entire state of California.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lot more on the way. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you can stay here, Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>We did have a sheriff's deputy drive past us and

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<v Speaker 6>we got this warning to be careful, and we thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe he's talking about the smoke because the air quality

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<v Speaker 6>is so poor. That's why we're all wearing respirators and masks.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, no, be careful because there are looters out here.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, we've already arrested someone. And I asked, well,

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<v Speaker 6>how many? And we're and try to get some more information.

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<v Speaker 6>He says, it couldn't give you that information. But the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that they this morning have already arrested people, it

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<v Speaker 6>just goes to show that people are taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 6>an already devastating situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as a libertarian, I have to be against

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<v Speaker 1>government vigilante style justice. But if you accidentally hit that

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the back of the year with a baton,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking the other way. Is there anything worse than

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<v Speaker 1>a looter? Anything? You are the worst human being on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>You certainly are in the running. After people have had

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<v Speaker 1>their homes burnt down lost everything they have, and you

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<v Speaker 1>go in and try to steal from them, you soob.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we institute something like martial law the very least.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to make the penalty so high.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not worth going and digging through somebody's house

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<v Speaker 1>to try to find a an engagement ring.

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<v Speaker 2>You got my vote. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Some other thing about the fire, and we're keeping our

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<v Speaker 1>eye on the Jimmy Carter funeral. We got some comments

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<v Speaker 1>on that coming up in a little bit. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. But on the fire, this is getting

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<v Speaker 1>a fair amount of attention, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>already in the midst of the tragedy with neighborhoods burnt

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<v Speaker 1>completely to the ground. It looks like the moon in

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<v Speaker 1>some of these places where it used to be multimillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar homes or just regular homes. It's not like it's

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<v Speaker 1>more or less tragic depending on the expenditure of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Trump is doing a lot of true thing

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<v Speaker 1>about out fire management by Gavin Newsom, and Gavin Newsom's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to deflect it into other things in the Mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>Of la and blah blah blah, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But this seems to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Forest Service identifies high risk forests needing prescribed

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<v Speaker 1>burns or any area that you got to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't travel around LA, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trees around LA, especially when you get up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Pasadena Altadena area. I've hiked up there many times,

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing but forests behind you. When the Forest Service

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<v Speaker 1>identifies a high risk forest that needs to burn to

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<v Speaker 1>be safe, it takes an average of four point seven

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<v Speaker 1>years to get it through the environmental reviews. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>a complex situation like their houses close by or infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes about seven years, which, as it points out,

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<v Speaker 1>is many many fire cycles. I mean going through many

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<v Speaker 1>fire seasons before you get through the environmental review to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the titmouse isn't gonna lose its habitat or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that before you can do anything about the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>which point the situation I would guess is very different.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it needs to be done even more. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a similar thing happened with And if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>live in California, you may not have heard the story

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<v Speaker 1>the historic pier in Santa Cruz that got washed away

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago and I've been out on

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<v Speaker 1>there many times, very very old. But there were projects

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<v Speaker 1>planned to shore that thing up, aging wooden structure, but

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<v Speaker 1>it ran into environmental struggles because of some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>bird or fish or something, and they just couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And and there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>What you have to understand, though, and what people need

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<v Speaker 3>to understand, both Californians and outside the state, is that

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<v Speaker 3>the environmental laws.

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<v Speaker 2>And fish, that's the main thing. I hate birds, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate fish.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, see here's here's where I slap you with the

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<v Speaker 3>firm hand of reality. It's not about the birds and fish,

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<v Speaker 3>at least in part like half the reason for these

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<v Speaker 3>laws is for trial aturnneys to get attorneys to be rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Unions constantly use these environmental lawsuits to blackmail companies, even

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<v Speaker 3>the state itself into giving them a better deal. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a it's it's law fair. That's an excellent pointy.

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<v Speaker 1>What it is how many of the lawyers who make

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<v Speaker 1>enough of a living to retire on on these various

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<v Speaker 1>cases have gone for years and years, care about the

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<v Speaker 1>freaking burger fiction involved, or just love the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they get into. They've got a job, they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>case for the rest of their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe someday, Jack, you could explain, not today, how California's

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<v Speaker 3>divorce laws are patterned so that incredibly expensive lawfare can

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<v Speaker 3>take trial attorneys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know the.

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<v Speaker 3>Trial attorneys and the public employee unions are on the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, enough said.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me turn my gaze briefly back to the funeral

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<v Speaker 1>that is going on. We have all the TVs on

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<v Speaker 1>live as the I don't know when you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to it on the podcast Jimmy Carter Funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the former president and vice presidents are in

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple of rows with their wives and husbands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris's vice president. She's got a husband. He'll slap

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<v Speaker 1>you around if you don't listen. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just thing and a couple of different things. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Carter. Executive producer hands and pointed out, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know who that woman does. I got nothing to say

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<v Speaker 1>about her. She's at her dad's funeral for crying out loud, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But she is an old woman now, as we all

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<v Speaker 1>have aged, I'm much older than I was when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a child. When she was a child also, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who that was. That's Amy Carter. But

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<v Speaker 1>Barrock and Trump were yucking it up a lot before

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<v Speaker 1>the funeral started, not like in an inappropriate way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been to a funeral and you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be morose the entire time, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>With no in many situations, it's a celebration of life.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would love to know what Barack and Trump

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about. I mean, they were really john a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I figured it out. It's obvious, boy, is Biden a doe?

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<v Speaker 2>Could be?

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<v Speaker 1>There are comparing notes on that it could be, and

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<v Speaker 1>Barack's like, you think you know he's a dope. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, I got some stories. Well, it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be impossible. I don't know if they'd if he would

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<v Speaker 1>say it out loud or not, but if they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had truth serum or something, and one thing about

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<v Speaker 1>being a two term president, you don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about anything anymore. Have you ever seen a worse campaign

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<v Speaker 1>than what Kamala Harris did. I could see Brox saying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, she couldn't do one interview. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they were talking about, but do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember the backstory on them. The reason Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>president is because Barack Obama. So Trump was endlessly back

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<v Speaker 1>when he was just a talk show host that I,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, didn't think there was a chance Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to be in politics. Would not shut up

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<v Speaker 1>about Barack Obama being a Muslim from another land in

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<v Speaker 1>the birth certificate, just endlessly on every show he ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>He would talk about that at and Barack Obama got

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<v Speaker 1>so upset about that that when they did the National

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<v Speaker 1>correspond on its dinner and Trump was in the audience,

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama made like the entire hour monologue making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump in front of all those people. And

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<v Speaker 1>Trump sat there stewing and so angry that he was

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<v Speaker 1>being mocked by Barack Obama. That is, and this is,

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<v Speaker 1>according to everyone, what drove him to run for president.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a time honored fashion among human beings, millions

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and millions of Americans said, oh, is that the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>of Barack Obama and everything he's trying to do the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's hear more about this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>One of Bob Woodward's books, and I don't remember which one,

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<v Speaker 1>but As a Long Time Ago, opens with Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>running down the stairs to tell Michelle, I found it.

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<v Speaker 1>I found it because he found his birth certificate up

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<v Speaker 1>in the attic. He'd been digging through the boxes long

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<v Speaker 1>just to try to shut up Trump because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so annoying. He would just dig the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, digging through boxes to try to find his

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<v Speaker 1>original birth certificate because Trump wouldn't shut up about which

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>is hilarious. But anyway, now here they are sitting on

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the pew yucking it up together, both of them, with

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>their their lives intertwined and intercrossed in ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>know nobody would have predicted.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to other him jacket's racism, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we now know, I mean at the time, but

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we now know. Trump just does whatever to get under

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<v Speaker 1>people's kin. He calls you by the wrong name or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just trolls.

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<v Speaker 1>He just trolls people. Who was the candidate. You know this, Michael,

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you were into this sea. He was just called by

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong name all the time. One of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that was running, oh Asa Hutchinson, he called for no

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>good reason, just I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, third grade schoolyard taunts, just like ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even care enough to know what your name is.

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<v Speaker 2>Is all that is.

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<v Speaker 3>So. Gerald Ford, who Carter defeated, and Carter were very

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<v Speaker 3>close friends the rest of their lives until Ford passed

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<v Speaker 3>away a number of years ago. And Ford's son is

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<v Speaker 3>delivering the eulogy, which is really a beautiful thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>he has pointed out during the service Carter's absolutely triumphant

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 3>bringing together of monocha Bagan of Israel and Anwar Sadat

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<v Speaker 3>of Egypt in what was the opening step of a

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<v Speaker 3>process that's gone right through the Abraham Accords and is

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<v Speaker 3>surely going to continue in Trump's term this time around.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is the the calming of the sane regimes

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<v Speaker 3>of the Middle East and working together to root out

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<v Speaker 3>the scumbags and lunatics. H and and for that Carter

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<v Speaker 3>should be remembered. That was some really really good diplomacy.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 3>He also engaged in some really really bad diplomacy. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what are you gonna do the one of

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<v Speaker 3>the several opportunities that the Palestinian leadership had for a

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>fabulous deal, a great deal that you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Not on our sadate.

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<v Speaker 1>What's his face with the Kafia? The terrorist Help me

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>got the Nobel Peace Prize. At one point, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>think of his what does it come on? This is

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing fat, Yeah, that's embarrassing to not know his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this not long acause, remember I got

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of names. You wanted some other names,

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Lord Filmour, there's one Marie Calhoun.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Monocca began kick you remember last year, and I read

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>his book and it explained how Yasser Airfat walk walked

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<v Speaker 1>away from that at the very end, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>hours before it was going to be accomplished, and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Carter was furious and realized at that point that he

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<v Speaker 1>was dealing with a nut job that who had no

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<v Speaker 1>interest in actually having peace or actually having a state.

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<v Speaker 2>So well exactly, Yeah, then they did it again under Clinton.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>That should be it'd be nice if Jimmy Carter could

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<v Speaker 1>leap up out of that casket and explain that to

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<v Speaker 1>the college students in Colombia and UCLA and everywhere else. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want a two state solution, at least the

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<v Speaker 1>leadership that they voted for over the years, right exactly

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>while those college morons were demonstrating in favor of terrorists

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>while the bloods still ran in the streets of New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans thanks to an isic converted lunatic. I suppose if

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter leaped up out of the caskets, that sub

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<v Speaker 1>headline would be his new peace plan.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably you know, yeah, that would that might not even

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<v Speaker 1>get noticed. The lead might be government attempts to bury

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>live former president or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I see your points. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>more stay with us.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I've been in this same chair and I

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 7>was arguing about a year ago, saying that you know,

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 7>you can be pro immigration, but we need a secure border,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 7>and we have a serious issue here on the board

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 7>and we have to address that. And here we have

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 7>now we can be pro immigration, and I really believe

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 7>we should protect the dreamers. But I don't know why

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 7>it's controversial that we need to deport any migrants here

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 7>illegal that are engaging in kinds of criminal activity. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know why that's controversial to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, It's interesting that he gets credit for like

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<v Speaker 1>bravery or it's political courage or whatever, for saying something

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<v Speaker 1>that ninety percent of a people agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you know, the next step in that

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<v Speaker 3>discussion is how perverse and out of step is the

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic Party or the branch of the Democratic Party that

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 3>believes that is controversial? Not I mean because you're right, Well,

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 3>you asked a question that sounds rhetorical, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>How is that brave for a Democratic senator to say?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the answer is you know what I said

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<v Speaker 2>more or less, so.

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<v Speaker 3>A handful of story's worth, at least touching on I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you're following what's going on in South

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<v Speaker 3>Korea with their president, it is crazy. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 3>have a serious constitutional crisis going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We cover the coup live a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>when he declared martial law and to try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the government from maybe able to go in and vote,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, nah, we're going to go and vote anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and then handed me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right in the legislature, including his own party, gave him

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<v Speaker 3>a wait what, No, you're not and they overturned it

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 3>absolutely instantly and according to their constitution. But now it's

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<v Speaker 3>believed by some in South Korean trust me, I'm not

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 3>an expert on this, that he actually broke laws and

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<v Speaker 3>so they're trying to arrest him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now trying to put cuffs on him and arrest him. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy yun suck yol is saying eh, and his

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<v Speaker 1>personal security detail, which he has recently beefed up, is

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>now surrounded his presidential residential compound. And when they went

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<v Speaker 1>to try to arrest him, I think was last week,

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>scuffles broke out and the security people let the cops

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever, you know, federal law enforcement was there to

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<v Speaker 1>arrest the guy. Tell him no, you're not getting them

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<v Speaker 1>without a fight, and we mean a fight, chick chick,

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, cocking their weapons and and so

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<v Speaker 1>after a prolonged multi hour negotiation, the people who are

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>there to arrest him withdrew. Well they're going back now.

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<v Speaker 1>But said former Marcia law van jun suk Yol, he's

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<v Speaker 1>beefed up his security.

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<v Speaker 2>He surrounded his.

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<v Speaker 1>Compound with buses and even more armed guys to hold

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<v Speaker 1>off the quote unquote authorities. So this is classic game

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<v Speaker 1>of throne stuff as old as time.

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<v Speaker 3>J'n a barbed wire too, just to help solidify the

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<v Speaker 3>picture for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just surprised that he has loyalists who are willing

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<v Speaker 1>to lay down their lives for him. Is he just

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<v Speaker 1>flat out paying him or do they believe in him

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<v Speaker 1>that much?

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I'm thinking back to the early days of

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>our republic, including during the Articles of Confederation, when we

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 3>were a pretty new democracy, and we're the oldest democracy

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<v Speaker 3>on earth, and so we're reasonably good at it. I

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>know what you're thinking right now. This is good at it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it or not. South Korea has just been

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<v Speaker 3>on democracy since the.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighties, is it. Yeah, it's within our lifetimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, But I mean this has happened throughout

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<v Speaker 1>I'd reading the other day about Napoleon the Third in

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>France in eighteen seventy one.

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he wanted his guys to fire on.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>The revolutionaries in the street, and they said, nah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to and he realized, Okay, I guess the

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>jig is up, and he had to high tail it

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<v Speaker 1>to Great Britain. I mean, because sometimes your guys support

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you and sometimes they don't. But in this case, the

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>South Korean president his people loyal to him.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>What or why?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, certainly enough to hold off the arrest tours.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>One of Ewan's lawyers said the president could not accept

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<v Speaker 3>the execution of the arrest warrant because it was issued

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 3>by a court in the wrong jurisdiction, and the team

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 3>of investigators formed to probe the incumbent leader had no

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<v Speaker 3>mandate to do so.

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>But did they think the people that are willing to

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<v Speaker 1>be shot to protect this guy, do they think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to end up back in power?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>That's a great quest, and I suspect so, I would

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 3>guess it is. It is a and you know, I

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>tend to side with the other side because this guy

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 3>seems to be a nut job, but I'm far from

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>an expert in it. It is both a personal test

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<v Speaker 3>of wills and there are serious arguments about who did

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<v Speaker 3>what and whether it's constitutional. So anyway, what's going to

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 3>happen next is crazy. But in a settled, westernized Eastern democracy,

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<v Speaker 3>to have this happen, it's just it's it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cataclasm. Oh, that's right, that's al Gore's nude Tipper.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>He and Tipper got divorced years ago, all years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just a girlfriend then?

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Or is he married? Anyway, we'll get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>funeral later. Asking me about al gorese love life. I

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know remember when he used to go get the

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<v Speaker 1>massages and that was a big story.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>So CNN, which is where we happen to be watching

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<v Speaker 3>at least one of our screens, the Jimmy Carter funeral.

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>They are about to be the defendant in a high

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 3>profile defation trial, and the jurors have indicated that they

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<v Speaker 3>are open to a ten figure payout. That's a billion

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 3>dollars with a B for what it's worth ten figures, okay,

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 3>And this is and there's some funny aspects of this case.

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<v Speaker 3>Plaintiff Zachary Young is a I think he's a Navy veteran.

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.919
<v Speaker 3>He was working like crazy to get people out of Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 3>and CNN, for some reason took a disliking to the

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<v Speaker 3>guy and assassinated his character and called them all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of things, like a black market, violator of laws and

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of and they had no solid evidence to

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<v Speaker 3>do so. And the judge has let the trial go forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Their injury selection and as it turns out, only one

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 3>potential juror admitted to regularly watching CNN out of forty

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<v Speaker 3>potential jurors. Oof, that's blow number one and only two

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 3>out of forty, or roughly five percent, had any idea

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>who Jake Tapper is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's going to be hard to find a fair

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<v Speaker 1>jur or with the popularity. Oh, nobody's ever heard of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be easy to find a fair jur Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jack triple as many as recognized Jake Tapper said, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe CNN creates fake news.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow again, Armstrong and Getty