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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettaty and know He Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: What is the situation with the water obviously in the

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Speaker 3: palisage that ran out last night in the hydrants.

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Speaker 2: The local folks are trying to figure that out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just when you have a system that it's

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Speaker 4: not dissimilar to what we've seen in other extraordinarily large

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Speaker 4: scale fires, whether it be pipe electricity or whether it

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Speaker 4: just be the complete overwhelm of the system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to believe Gavin Newsom getting on the

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Speaker 1: phone with some people why the hydrants were an out

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Speaker 1: of water. I need an answer because that's a bad story.

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Speaker 1: The hydrants run similar to other situations. He's a pot

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Speaker 1: So I'll tell you. If there's one place I could

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Speaker 1: be right now anywhere in the world, it'd be close

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Speaker 1: enough to Barack Obama and Donald Trump, who were sitting

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Speaker 1: in the second row at the National Cathedral in Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC waiting for the Jimmy Carter funeral to start. It's

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Speaker 1: the role of the ex president's man. The most exclusive

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Speaker 1: of the way things really work than anybody who lives.

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Speaker 1: But Barack Obama's now bending Trump's here. They are in

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Speaker 1: a NonStop conversation and both of them laughing now and then,

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Speaker 1: and Barack Obama's just shaking his head like rolled his

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Speaker 1: eyes and laughed, and they're talking about I would freaking

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Speaker 1: love to know what they're talking about. Do you think

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Speaker 1: if it's anything of consequence or is it like really

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Speaker 1: minor stuff just to make small talk.

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Speaker 3: I think it is a presidential small talk, That's what

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Speaker 3: I'm he knowing. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeh, DC and

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Speaker 3: the White House and the inauguration and the press and

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: I suspect.

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Speaker 1: And famously, if you're into this sort of stuff, former

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Speaker 1: presidents often have way more respect for each other then

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Speaker 1: they were all fighting each other. And I wonder if

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Speaker 1: Barack and Trump are in that category. Oh it's guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They've both done a job that is impossible and

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Speaker 3: ages you like a dog, and so there is a

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Speaker 3: bond even if you disagree fairly vehemently. I want to

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Speaker 3: say one thing and make it clear because we have,

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Speaker 3: you know, made various comments, whether lighthearted, about some of

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Speaker 3: the things happening at the funeral or Carter's presidency and

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing. I believe Jimmy Carter was a

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Speaker 3: good man who lived a good life. I think he

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Speaker 3: was ill suited to the job for which he is

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Speaker 3: being remembered. He was not a good president, and I

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Speaker 3: think respect to him and his family and those who

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Speaker 3: loved him upon his passing is absolutely appropriate. I think

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Speaker 3: worshipfulness is weird and off putting. You know, we can

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Speaker 3: certainly give criticism of his administration arrest during the funeral,

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but there is a difference between having respect

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Speaker 3: for a human being and suspending your not only you're right,

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Speaker 3: but your duty as an American to understand where his

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Speaker 3: presidency went terribly wrong. But again, we could give it

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Speaker 1: In terms of the presidents that are still alive, they're

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Speaker 1: all sitting there and I'm watching on TV. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: looks one hundred and twenty years old. He walked in

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Speaker 1: blank stare that he has. He's the current president with

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Speaker 1: all those former presidents, and he's the oldest guy in

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Speaker 1: those first two pews and looks by far the oldest,

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Speaker 1: and looks the oldest and acts the oldest. Yes, why

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Speaker 1: did we Why are you going back clear to Bush

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Speaker 1: won all those people? Well, I mean you're going way back. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's there, that's ninety two. The guy that one

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Speaker 1: the oldest guy there is Joe Biden, the current president.

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Speaker 2: That's an odd thing for America to decide.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if we need this, and we probably don't,

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Speaker 3: but it's worth contemplating for another ten seconds. The fact

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Speaker 3: that the Democratic Party, the Biden administration, and the media

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Speaker 3: we're all telling us is recently is you know, the

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Speaker 3: Nothing could be more dishonest or ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Well, last hour, we played the clip Joe Biden did

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Speaker 5: Here's what he has to say about that. Joe Biden

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Speaker 5: had a forty approval rating. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 5: president who's won reelection with an approval rating that low.

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Speaker 5: So you look, you know, one has to comfort oneself

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Speaker 5: But I think it's nuts to think that he would

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Speaker 1: It's nuts to think won He went from painstaking, painstakingly diplomatic.

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Speaker 2: To he's a nut. It's not pretty quickly he would

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Speaker 1: What is Trump saying to Barack Obama that's making Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama throw back his head and laughter. I would love

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Speaker 1: to know what he'll never know. No, I won't, you

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Speaker 1: will never know. Uh Dovetailing from our conversational last year,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Mike the lawyer in Chicago recognizing the Joe

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Speaker 1: Getty unified theory of civilizations. Talking about Carter's administration, he said,

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Speaker 1: Carter's policies are a great example of what you talk

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Speaker 1: about with the guardrails, Vietnam and Watergate made it easy

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a really good analysis right there.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: So coming up an extended discussion of DOGE and what

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Speaker 3: exactly it might be able to accomplish and what the

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Speaker 3: roadblocks will be. To paraphrase, I think it was a lick.

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Speaker 3: Oh you all live in who is an absolutely brilliant

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Speaker 3: writer and thinker, Jack, I know you, you're familiar with

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Speaker 3: this stuff. He says, it could be a complete waste

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Speaker 3: of everyone's time. That's usually how reform commissions go. But

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Speaker 3: Musk is no slouch, and the idea has drawn the

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Speaker 3: cooperation of an array of tech sector and entrepreneurial talent,

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Speaker 3: including favek Ramaswami, and needs to be taken seriously.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the biggest thing that's going

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Speaker 1: He can say something and everybody hears it, and if

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Speaker 2: Did everybody know that?

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Speaker 1: Because a couple of senators doing this in a hearing

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Speaker 1: But I feel like this spouse who's been begging his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody should know that.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's even if it is just a

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Speaker 1: minimal success, we'll keep our It'll be great. We'll keep

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Speaker 1: have that story and a whole bunch of other stuff

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Speaker 2: Stay here.

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Speaker 1: All five living former presidents gathered for the Jimmy Carter funeral.

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Speaker 1: More on that if anything happens. I do have some

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Speaker 1: more comments to make. Their procession is going on.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we will bring that to you if it develops.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden recently with his eyes closed for a prolonged

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Speaker 1: He's a spiritual man. He's also one hundred years old.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance he falls asleep and

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, boy, that would make the headlines. Anyway, stay

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Speaker 3: with us, you've all Livin, who's a brilliant guy. One

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Speaker 3: of a couple of people I want to quote talking

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Speaker 3: about the Doge project is this Elon Musk and Vivek

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Speaker 3: Kramaswami in company's effort to reign in the federal government.

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Speaker 3: And it's spending And we'll get more into specifics in

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Speaker 3: a second, but I just saw the headline. For what

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Speaker 1: Rankings in some sort of video game. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he How does he have time? He says he's the

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Speaker 3: Even if we were to extract his brain from a

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Speaker 3: The rest of them are definitely definitely not no.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, so you've all.

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Speaker 3: Levin writes that surely there is a need for some

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Speaker 3: creative thinking about combating efficiency in government. Everybody knows that

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Speaker 3: maybe DOGE could have some potential, but to generate more

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Speaker 2: It's approached because they're kind of.

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Speaker 1: Vague for all to talk about doge It's basic ambition.

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Speaker 2: It's still pretty murky. As he points out.

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Speaker 3: Quite correctly, I think it's champions seem to have in

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Speaker 1: I saw Nashville have you writing about how Elon a

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Speaker 1: super smart guy. Nobody's doubting that. But he was not

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Speaker 3: And in the same way I often say, evidence does

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Speaker 3: not necessarily equal proof. Good things do not necessarily equal

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Speaker 3: a solution. For instance, if they were to get rid

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just pains me so much that we

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm trying to make clear. Do it

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Speaker 3: All of this is true, and it is repugnant. I

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Speaker 3: Maybe someday, Jack, you could explain, not today, how California's

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Speaker 3: But I would love to know what Barack and Trump

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Speaker 3: were talking about. I mean, they were really john a lot.

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Speaker 3: I figured it out. It's obvious, boy, is Biden a doe?

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Speaker 2: Could be?

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Speaker 1: There are comparing notes on that it could be, and

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Speaker 1: Barack's like, you think you know he's a dope. Let

443
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Speaker 1: me tell you, I got some stories. Well, it wouldn't

444
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Speaker 1: be impossible. I don't know if they'd if he would

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Speaker 1: say it out loud or not, but if they're you know,

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Speaker 1: you had truth serum or something, and one thing about

447
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Speaker 1: being a two term president, you don't have to worry

448
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Speaker 1: about anything anymore. Have you ever seen a worse campaign

449
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Speaker 1: than what Kamala Harris did. I could see Brox saying,

450
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Speaker 1: oh my god, she couldn't do one interview. I know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they were talking about, but do

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Speaker 1: you remember the backstory on them. The reason Trump was

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Speaker 1: president is because Barack Obama. So Trump was endlessly back

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Speaker 1: when he was just a talk show host that I,

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Speaker 1: for instance, didn't think there was a chance Trump was

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Speaker 1: ever going to be in politics. Would not shut up

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Speaker 1: about Barack Obama being a Muslim from another land in

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Speaker 1: the birth certificate, just endlessly on every show he ever did.

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Speaker 1: He would talk about that at and Barack Obama got

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Speaker 1: so upset about that that when they did the National

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Speaker 1: correspond on its dinner and Trump was in the audience,

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama made like the entire hour monologue making fun

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump in front of all those people. And

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Speaker 1: Trump sat there stewing and so angry that he was

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Speaker 1: being mocked by Barack Obama. That is, and this is,

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Speaker 1: according to everyone, what drove him to run for president.

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Speaker 1: And in a time honored fashion among human beings, millions

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Speaker 1: and millions of Americans said, oh, is that the enemy

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Speaker 1: of Barack Obama and everything he's trying to do the country.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's hear more about this guy.

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Speaker 1: One of Bob Woodward's books, and I don't remember which one,

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Speaker 1: but As a Long Time Ago, opens with Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: running down the stairs to tell Michelle, I found it.

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Speaker 1: I found it because he found his birth certificate up

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Speaker 1: in the attic. He'd been digging through the boxes long

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Speaker 1: just to try to shut up Trump because it was

477
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Speaker 1: so annoying. He would just dig the President of the

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Speaker 1: United States, digging through boxes to try to find his

479
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Speaker 1: original birth certificate because Trump wouldn't shut up about which

480
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Speaker 1: is hilarious. But anyway, now here they are sitting on

481
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Speaker 1: the pew yucking it up together, both of them, with

482
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Speaker 1: their their lives intertwined and intercrossed in ways that you

483
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Speaker 1: know nobody would have predicted.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to other him jacket's racism, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Well we now know, I mean at the time, but

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Speaker 1: we now know. Trump just does whatever to get under

487
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Speaker 1: people's kin. He calls you by the wrong name or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just trolls.

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Speaker 1: He just trolls people. Who was the candidate. You know this, Michael,

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Speaker 1: you were into this sea. He was just called by

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Speaker 1: the wrong name all the time. One of the guys

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Speaker 1: that was running, oh Asa Hutchinson, he called for no

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Speaker 1: good reason, just I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, third grade schoolyard taunts, just like ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care enough to know what your name is.

496
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Speaker 2: Is all that is.

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Speaker 3: So. Gerald Ford, who Carter defeated, and Carter were very

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Speaker 3: close friends the rest of their lives until Ford passed

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Speaker 3: away a number of years ago. And Ford's son is

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Speaker 3: delivering the eulogy, which is really a beautiful thing. And

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Speaker 3: he has pointed out during the service Carter's absolutely triumphant

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Speaker 3: bringing together of monocha Bagan of Israel and Anwar Sadat

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Speaker 3: of Egypt in what was the opening step of a

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Speaker 3: process that's gone right through the Abraham Accords and is

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Speaker 3: surely going to continue in Trump's term this time around.

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Speaker 3: And that is the the calming of the sane regimes

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Speaker 3: of the Middle East and working together to root out

508
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Speaker 3: the scumbags and lunatics. H and and for that Carter

509
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Speaker 3: should be remembered. That was some really really good diplomacy.

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Speaker 3: He also engaged in some really really bad diplomacy. But

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Speaker 3: you know, what are you gonna do the one of

512
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Speaker 3: the several opportunities that the Palestinian leadership had for a

513
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Speaker 3: fabulous deal, a great deal that you know.

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Speaker 2: Not on our sadate.

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Speaker 1: What's his face with the Kafia? The terrorist Help me

516
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Speaker 1: got the Nobel Peace Prize. At one point, I can't

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Speaker 1: think of his what does it come on? This is

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Speaker 1: embarrassing fat, Yeah, that's embarrassing to not know his name.

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Speaker 1: I talked about this not long acause, remember I got

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of names. You wanted some other names,

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Speaker 1: Lord Filmour, there's one Marie Calhoun.

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Speaker 2: So I got on this.

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Speaker 1: Monocca began kick you remember last year, and I read

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Speaker 1: his book and it explained how Yasser Airfat walk walked

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Speaker 1: away from that at the very end, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: hours before it was going to be accomplished, and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Carter was furious and realized at that point that he

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Speaker 1: was dealing with a nut job that who had no

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Speaker 1: interest in actually having peace or actually having a state.

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Speaker 2: So well exactly, Yeah, then they did it again under Clinton.

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Speaker 1: That should be it'd be nice if Jimmy Carter could

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Speaker 1: leap up out of that casket and explain that to

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Speaker 1: the college students in Colombia and UCLA and everywhere else. Hey,

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Speaker 1: they don't want a two state solution, at least the

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Speaker 1: leadership that they voted for over the years, right exactly

536
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Speaker 1: while those college morons were demonstrating in favor of terrorists

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Speaker 1: while the bloods still ran in the streets of New

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Speaker 1: Orleans thanks to an isic converted lunatic. I suppose if

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter leaped up out of the caskets, that sub

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Speaker 1: headline would be his new peace plan.

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Speaker 2: It would be.

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Speaker 1: Probably you know, yeah, that would that might not even

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Speaker 1: get noticed. The lead might be government attempts to bury

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Speaker 1: live former president or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I see your points. We've got

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Speaker 2: more stay with us.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've been in this same chair and I

548
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Speaker 7: was arguing about a year ago, saying that you know,

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Speaker 7: you can be pro immigration, but we need a secure border,

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Speaker 7: and we have a serious issue here on the board

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Speaker 7: and we have to address that. And here we have

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Speaker 7: now we can be pro immigration, and I really believe

553
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Speaker 7: we should protect the dreamers. But I don't know why

554
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Speaker 7: it's controversial that we need to deport any migrants here

555
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Speaker 7: illegal that are engaging in kinds of criminal activity. I

556
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Speaker 7: don't know why that's controversial to anybody.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, It's interesting that he gets credit for like

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Speaker 1: bravery or it's political courage or whatever, for saying something

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Speaker 1: that ninety percent of a people agree with.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, the next step in that

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Speaker 3: discussion is how perverse and out of step is the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party or the branch of the Democratic Party that

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Speaker 3: believes that is controversial? Not I mean because you're right, Well,

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Speaker 3: you asked a question that sounds rhetorical, but it's not.

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Speaker 3: How is that brave for a Democratic senator to say?

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Speaker 2: I think the answer is you know what I said

567
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Speaker 2: more or less, so.

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Speaker 3: A handful of story's worth, at least touching on I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you're following what's going on in South

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Speaker 3: Korea with their president, it is crazy. I mean, they

571
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Speaker 3: have a serious constitutional crisis going on.

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Speaker 1: We cover the coup live a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: when he declared martial law and to try to keep

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Speaker 1: the government from maybe able to go in and vote,

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Speaker 1: and they said, nah, we're going to go and vote anyway,

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Speaker 1: and then handed me.

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Speaker 3: Right in the legislature, including his own party, gave him

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Speaker 3: a wait what, No, you're not and they overturned it

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Speaker 3: absolutely instantly and according to their constitution. But now it's

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Speaker 3: believed by some in South Korean trust me, I'm not

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Speaker 3: an expert on this, that he actually broke laws and

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Speaker 3: so they're trying to arrest him.

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Speaker 1: Now trying to put cuffs on him and arrest him. Well,

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Speaker 1: this guy yun suck yol is saying eh, and his

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Speaker 1: personal security detail, which he has recently beefed up, is

586
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Speaker 1: now surrounded his presidential residential compound. And when they went

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Speaker 1: to try to arrest him, I think was last week,

588
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Speaker 1: scuffles broke out and the security people let the cops

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Speaker 1: and whatever, you know, federal law enforcement was there to

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Speaker 1: arrest the guy. Tell him no, you're not getting them

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Speaker 1: without a fight, and we mean a fight, chick chick,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, cocking their weapons and and so

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Speaker 1: after a prolonged multi hour negotiation, the people who are

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Speaker 1: there to arrest him withdrew. Well they're going back now.

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Speaker 1: But said former Marcia law van jun suk Yol, he's

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Speaker 1: beefed up his security.

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Speaker 2: He surrounded his.

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Speaker 1: Compound with buses and even more armed guys to hold

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Speaker 1: off the quote unquote authorities. So this is classic game

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Speaker 1: of throne stuff as old as time.

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Speaker 3: J'n a barbed wire too, just to help solidify the

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Speaker 3: picture for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that he has loyalists who are willing

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Speaker 1: to lay down their lives for him. Is he just

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Speaker 1: flat out paying him or do they believe in him

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Speaker 1: that much?

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question.

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Speaker 3: You know. I'm thinking back to the early days of

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Speaker 3: our republic, including during the Articles of Confederation, when we

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Speaker 3: were a pretty new democracy, and we're the oldest democracy

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Speaker 3: on earth, and so we're reasonably good at it. I

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Speaker 3: know what you're thinking right now. This is good at it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I believe it or not. South Korea has just been

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Speaker 3: on democracy since the.

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Speaker 2: Eighties, is it. Yeah, it's within our lifetimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But I mean this has happened throughout

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Speaker 1: I'd reading the other day about Napoleon the Third in

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Speaker 1: France in eighteen seventy one.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, he wanted his guys to fire on.

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Speaker 1: The revolutionaries in the street, and they said, nah, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to and he realized, Okay, I guess the

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Speaker 1: jig is up, and he had to high tail it

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Speaker 1: to Great Britain. I mean, because sometimes your guys support

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Speaker 1: you and sometimes they don't. But in this case, the

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Speaker 1: South Korean president his people loyal to him.

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Speaker 2: What or why?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, certainly enough to hold off the arrest tours.

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Speaker 3: One of Ewan's lawyers said the president could not accept

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Speaker 3: the execution of the arrest warrant because it was issued

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Speaker 3: by a court in the wrong jurisdiction, and the team

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Speaker 3: of investigators formed to probe the incumbent leader had no

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Speaker 3: mandate to do so.

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Speaker 1: But did they think the people that are willing to

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Speaker 1: be shot to protect this guy, do they think he's

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Speaker 1: going to end up back in power?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's a great quest, and I suspect so, I would

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Speaker 3: guess it is. It is a and you know, I

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Speaker 3: tend to side with the other side because this guy

640
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Speaker 3: seems to be a nut job, but I'm far from

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Speaker 3: an expert in it. It is both a personal test

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Speaker 3: of wills and there are serious arguments about who did

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Speaker 3: what and whether it's constitutional. So anyway, what's going to

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Speaker 3: happen next is crazy. But in a settled, westernized Eastern democracy,

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Speaker 3: to have this happen, it's just it's it's terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's cataclasm. Oh, that's right, that's al Gore's nude Tipper.

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Speaker 1: He and Tipper got divorced years ago, all years ago.

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Speaker 2: Is that just a girlfriend then?

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Speaker 1: Or is he married? Anyway, we'll get back to the

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Speaker 1: funeral later. Asking me about al gorese love life. I

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Speaker 1: don't know remember when he used to go get the

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Speaker 1: massages and that was a big story.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: So CNN, which is where we happen to be watching

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Speaker 3: at least one of our screens, the Jimmy Carter funeral.

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Speaker 3: They are about to be the defendant in a high

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Speaker 3: profile defation trial, and the jurors have indicated that they

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Speaker 3: are open to a ten figure payout. That's a billion

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Speaker 3: dollars with a B for what it's worth ten figures, okay,

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Speaker 3: And this is and there's some funny aspects of this case.

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Speaker 3: Plaintiff Zachary Young is a I think he's a Navy veteran.

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Speaker 3: He was working like crazy to get people out of Afghanistan,

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Speaker 3: and CNN, for some reason took a disliking to the

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Speaker 3: guy and assassinated his character and called them all sorts

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Speaker 3: of things, like a black market, violator of laws and

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Speaker 3: all sorts of and they had no solid evidence to

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Speaker 3: do so. And the judge has let the trial go forward.

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Speaker 3: Their injury selection and as it turns out, only one

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Speaker 3: potential juror admitted to regularly watching CNN out of forty

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Speaker 3: potential jurors. Oof, that's blow number one and only two

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Speaker 3: out of forty, or roughly five percent, had any idea

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Speaker 3: who Jake Tapper is.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's it's going to be hard to find a fair

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Speaker 1: jur or with the popularity. Oh, nobody's ever heard of us.

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Speaker 1: It'll be easy to find a fair jur Oh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jack triple as many as recognized Jake Tapper said, yes,

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Speaker 3: I believe CNN creates fake news.

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Speaker 2: Wow again, Armstrong and Getty