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Speaker 2: Come that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.
Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
Speaker 1: be happy.
Speaker 2: You want to be happy? For day at the State?
Speaker 1: Is that?
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Speaker 1: And now down and tie. Welcome back to the solid
Speaker 1: Burbo boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining
Speaker 1: me as always back over there in New York City,
Speaker 1: the NYC. We are back. His name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir, sir,
Speaker 1: how are you? Is it just me tie?
Speaker 2: Or is Fargo calling us back?
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like a siren call, haunting us
Speaker 1: at night to come back to the Upper Plains to
Speaker 1: watch North Dakota State place South Dakota State. I believe
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: You know the people that sort of go door to
Speaker 2: door asking I'm not even speaking about one particular religion.
Speaker 2: There's lots of all, you know, people who are trying
Speaker 2: to sell a religion, and they always go with like,
Speaker 2: do you feel like something's missing from your life? Right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Are you looking to fill the emptiness that you feel?
Speaker 2: The void?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I since I've been back in New York, I'm feeling
Speaker 2: that Fargo siren call.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. How many people have
Speaker 1: you told that you went to Fargo? Just like in
Speaker 1: your view, A handful in your like immediate circle handful.
Speaker 2: Spoke to Mamma Rubinstein today. She asked how Fargo went.
Speaker 2: A couple of people saw that, Like we tweeted out
Speaker 2: the travelog video. Great job in an episode, great thank you.
Speaker 2: It came out really, really nicely. I was happy with it.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question. Here's where
Speaker 1: I'm going with this. How many people responded with why
Speaker 1: do you go to Fargo?
Speaker 2: Many?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mind's at about eighty five percent.
Speaker 2: I'd say my mom is at the point with me
Speaker 2: where she said, well, she doesn't try to understand some
Speaker 2: of the things I do. She's like, okay, yeah, I
Speaker 2: support it great, and she really didn't push. So I
Speaker 2: explained it and she was happy to know that footage
Speaker 2: of me curling made it into the broadcast.
Speaker 1: This is true, This is true.
Speaker 2: Well, that was everything that mattered.
Speaker 1: Look, we are back. We hope that you've had a
Speaker 1: chance to view the Travelog video and listen to the
Speaker 1: Travelog audio that we posted. The podcast is out there
Speaker 1: as of Sunday evening. The video is out there not
Speaker 1: only on our Twitter account but also on the Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated Twitter accounts. You can go out there and see
Speaker 1: like a two minute condensed video version of what we
Speaker 1: experienced out there in Fargo, North Dakota a lot warmer
Speaker 1: here on the East Coast, but certainly a great experience
Speaker 1: to be out there at North Dakota State. We wish
Speaker 1: that it wasn't against Colgate, which is the only bittersweet
Speaker 1: part of this, but nonetheless a really cool experience to
Speaker 1: witness what goes on at North Dakota State, see the
Speaker 1: dynasty that has been built, and see the fan support
Speaker 1: that was all really exciting, really cool, and we hope
Speaker 1: that you can relive the experience with us by listening
Speaker 1: and watching along. And to those who have asked, we
Speaker 1: enjoyed our burgers from Pounds, Yes, and we enjoyed coffee
Speaker 1: in a pastry from young Blood sort of downtown. That
Speaker 1: was great before the game. And in Minneapolis we had
Speaker 1: a great meal at I think it's Grand Catch, Grand Catch, Yes,
Speaker 1: Grand Catch.
Speaker 2: Then we had a superb meet up with a few
Speaker 2: dozen for ballers came out last second, which was really
Speaker 2: cool to see. Met some luminaries. Will ogin In is
Speaker 2: how it's pronounced, I believe, will ad Minnesota, Yes, and
Speaker 2: Dan klobashar so among many many new luminaries among the verballerhood.
Speaker 2: So that was incredibly cool to just have a beer
Speaker 2: and chat. We promised that whether it's you know, on
Speaker 2: the West coast, somewhere in Texas and the southeast wherever
Speaker 2: we jointly go, we will try to do this because
Speaker 2: it was a damn good time.
Speaker 1: There has been immediate feedback to the video to the
Speaker 1: audio that you and I should pick one game every
Speaker 1: year I'm in and maybe do something similar. So we
Speaker 1: could talk about that. Dan we'll have our people talk
Speaker 1: to each other too. We can work out.
Speaker 2: We're coming for you Cheney, Washington, Nnesaw, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, on that note, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: Good to be back in our normal digs here. I'm Tie,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm twenty minutes out. I'm gonna be able
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's get into some news because the coaching
Speaker 2: carousel keeps us spinnin. And maybe we should start here
Speaker 2: since we opened with Fargo. Yeah, talk Chris Cleman, the
Speaker 2: North Dakota State coach. We talked about it a little
Speaker 2: bit while we were in the upper planes. He was
Speaker 2: rumored to be a candidate for Kansas State and now
Speaker 2: he is officially replacing Bill Snyder, the long tenured twice
Speaker 2: tenured Kansas State coach and the little apple in Manhattan,
Speaker 2: Kansas taking over Kansas State. And it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to get a full read because the people that are
Speaker 2: most vocal are not necessarily the capital t capital p
Speaker 2: the people. And it seems to me like a really
Speaker 2: good hire, yeah for Kansas State. And I know there
Speaker 2: was some pushback, some louder pushback from some people online
Speaker 2: about like what are his recruiting ties to Kansas? Bill
Speaker 2: Snyder put together pretty bad classes at Kansas State. They
Speaker 2: don't win at Kansas State with stellar recruiting. That's just
Speaker 2: if you're looking to win that way, it's never gonna work.
Speaker 2: He sixty six and seven, sixty six and sixty seven and.
Speaker 1: Six, seven and six. Yeah, and he's going to be
Speaker 1: the coach this week in the FCS semifinals against South
Speaker 1: fried State. Yeah, and presumably in Frisco. I'm guessing they'll
Speaker 1: make it that far, but you never know. SDSU plays
Speaker 1: them tight. But yeah, I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 1: who's got a sterling record at North Dakota State. He's
Speaker 1: clearly built a dynasty there. My question to you is,
Speaker 1: and I've seen the same stuff like, well what about
Speaker 1: his recruiting? Guess what you're talking to K State here.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to case State, but I mean, you can
Speaker 1: get you can get the singularly the best coach at
Speaker 1: the FCS level. Does it really matter what his recruiting
Speaker 1: ties are? Like that to me is a catch if
Speaker 1: you can haul that guy in. Clearly there was a
Speaker 1: familiarity there. The ad at k State was the one
Speaker 1: who promoted Cleman initially when he took over at North
Speaker 1: Dakota State. He invited him to come to Manhattan, Kansas
Speaker 1: to be the head football coach. The video of the
Speaker 1: phone call was actually posted on social media by Case State,
Speaker 1: which was really cool, and so we wish him well.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great hire too. Maybe there's something
Speaker 1: I'm missing because I'm not an expert and I don't
Speaker 1: know the ins and outs of this, but it seems
Speaker 1: to me like if you're Case State and you get
Speaker 1: a guy of this magnitude who has proven that he
Speaker 1: can build his team up regardless of the level, that's significant.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Jim Trussel similar not identical situation going from
Speaker 2: Youngstown State to Ohio State. I think the most important
Speaker 2: thing is going to be culture and infrastructure of a
Speaker 2: winning program, and Chris Climon brings that. And I am
Speaker 2: excited to see what Kansas State looks like because once
Speaker 2: again the recruiting thing, he will hire assistance familiar with
Speaker 2: Texas and junior colleges in Kansas. I am not at
Speaker 2: all worried about that. Bill Snyder's last six seven eight
Speaker 2: classes never finished higher than eighth in the ten team
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, and the final year in which there were
Speaker 2: twelve teams in the Big Twelve, Kansas State finished twelve yep.
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's not going to be the
Speaker 2: lifeblood of a successful program in the state of Kansas
Speaker 2: in the way it is elsewhere in the conference.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I'll add here in closing on this,
Speaker 1: Hire Climban's teams were good on both offense defense. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they produced high level NFL draft picks in the form
Speaker 1: of one Carson Wentz, who everybody knows. At this point,
Speaker 1: they were the number one scoring offense in all of
Speaker 1: FCS this year, and to go along with that, they
Speaker 1: had the number three scoring defense. So they were very
Speaker 1: balanced on both sides of the ball. We saw it
Speaker 1: up close and personal. They were done. They were dominant
Speaker 1: against against the best, the so called best defense in FCS.
Speaker 1: They were totally dominant in all phases of the game.
Speaker 1: So Chris Climban going to be your new head football
Speaker 1: coach at k State. The other one here that is reported,
Speaker 1: I guess at this point, I don't know if it's official,
Speaker 1: but Manny Diaz.
Speaker 2: The yeah as of today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the former Miami defensive coordinator who's bounced around and
Speaker 1: has been a mind that many of us have been
Speaker 1: quite interested in as a defensive savant. If you will
Speaker 1: he's headed the Temple. It's going to take over for
Speaker 1: the Owls, the new cradle of coaches. Yeah, that's right
Speaker 1: of Owls. So you have Al Golden and Steve Adazio
Speaker 1: and now Jeff Collins making his way to Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. That's official. And so now Many Diez, who
Speaker 1: has been at major programs Texas, Mississippi State, NC State,
Speaker 1: and most recently Miami, makes the move up. I called
Speaker 1: it the reverse Golden because that's what it is, the
Speaker 1: reverse Al Golden going from Miami to Temple. And I
Speaker 1: also saw Don Brown, the Michigan defensive coordinator, was a
Speaker 1: name that was there was a lot of interest in him.
Speaker 1: I guess he interviewed for the job with the Owls.
Speaker 1: But Many Diaz, a younger coach with I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people thinking that he can do some pretty
Speaker 1: big things. He's pretty well regarded. So I like the
Speaker 1: hire for Temple. It's an ideal place secretly to.
Speaker 2: Be a I guess group of five program, playing in
Speaker 2: a big group of five conference and having that sort
Speaker 2: of proximity to the sort of in between the teetering
Speaker 2: talent between group of five and power five with a
Speaker 2: lot of talent in the New Jersey area, so very
Speaker 2: cool to see Diaz taking over.
Speaker 1: Like you said, young guy only forty four's bounced around,
Speaker 1: had some good experience with major college programs, has not
Speaker 1: been a head coach yet, so we'll see what he
Speaker 1: can do. Only a prominent defensive coordinator until now, many
Speaker 1: Diaz official to Temple elsewhere in the coaching realm, at
Speaker 1: least among some other head coaching positions. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we talked about Hugh Freeze to Liberty, which is
Speaker 1: a little weird.
Speaker 2: Only Jesus can handle is junk. That's a quote.
Speaker 1: So we've also got app State, which is in the
Speaker 1: market for a new coach after Scott Saderfield left to
Speaker 1: go to Louisville, reportedly considering both Ruff and McNeil and
Speaker 1: Josh Gaddis.
Speaker 2: I saw Nate Woodie his name May Woody Well, who
Speaker 2: was the old app State defensive coordinator and hired by
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, who we presume is now on the open
Speaker 2: market with Paul Johnson retiring.
Speaker 1: And in the way of positional coaches, we have Dan
Speaker 1: enos the quarterback coach, the assistant head coach at Alabama.
Speaker 1: He was promoted to the new offensive coordinator spot because
Speaker 1: Mike Loxi left to take the Maryland job. You might
Speaker 1: remember that Dan Enos name. He did coach Central Michigan
Speaker 1: for five years after a rocky start, ended up being
Speaker 1: about a five hundred coach between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: You will now bout out Daniel Fever.
Speaker 1: Daniel Fever, it'll now be his show down there with
Speaker 1: TUA and all of the offensive weaponry that Nick Saban
Speaker 1: returns in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: And he's bringing along nobody. No. I was going to say,
Speaker 2: because we mentioned Mike Loxley leaving Alabama, he is bringing
Speaker 2: along Butch Jones to Maryland. Butch Jones was an analyst
Speaker 2: for Alabama this year on offense, and we'll be taking
Speaker 2: over tight ends and I believe we'll be an associate
Speaker 2: head coach for the Terps. And that's in terms of
Speaker 2: big deal stuff. Josh Gattis is actually an interesting name.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that with app State. Certainly the Penn State
Speaker 2: receivers took a step back this year without him in
Speaker 2: State College. That I think a really good job for
Speaker 2: Alabama as the COOC this year. We'll see what happens
Speaker 2: with his position moving forward?
Speaker 1: All right? And then the only other thing that I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up here, I'm looking at an article
Speaker 1: from a dear friend, Nicole auerback Yes, headlined with quote,
Speaker 1: we don't need to wait another six years colon college
Speaker 1: football leaders ready to discuss eight team playoff, dan Oh,
Speaker 1: I saw that you tweeted this out while I was away.
Speaker 1: As you might imagine, it conjured up a lot of
Speaker 1: emotion in the Twitter sphere, I'm sure all around college football.
Speaker 1: Can you give us the gist of this article?
Speaker 2: The gist is that some people who had previously been
Speaker 2: associated with the playoff committee, like Barry Alvarez, for instance,
Speaker 2: have spoken to each other at length about the possibility
Speaker 2: of an eighteen playoff. This is nothing that is at
Speaker 2: least publicly on the table with current committee members. But
Speaker 2: there are some former people on this committee that have
Speaker 2: come around as soon as it doesn't matter what they think,
Speaker 2: right right, They've come.
Speaker 1: Around the way it works, right right.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's that congressman who is you know,
Speaker 2: super against pot then gets out of the business. This
Speaker 2: is John Bayner. Is they actually be a real congressman? Yes,
Speaker 2: that is correct. I think it was John Bayner, who
Speaker 2: like against Pott and then all of a sudden is like, oh,
Speaker 2: I run a pot farm.
Speaker 1: Now I'm buying stock. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this is getting a little bit far afield. This
Speaker 2: is all to say, it would have been cool to
Speaker 2: have this discussion happened while you were in power. This
Speaker 2: is them surmising that they shouldn't have to wait another
Speaker 2: six years for the contract to be up to renegotiate
Speaker 2: how many teams and redo to the competitive nature of
Speaker 2: the playoff going from four to eight or four to
Speaker 2: six eight whatever, and UCF and how they were treated
Speaker 2: in the way that they believe the SEC. This is
Speaker 2: them saying it not tire myself that the SEC has
Speaker 2: given preferential treatment and given the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: a little bit too often, with how LSU didn't move
Speaker 2: down at all, and how Washington State and you know,
Speaker 2: Penn State and all these teams really didn't have the
Speaker 2: ability to move up, and that perhaps the SEC has
Speaker 2: too strong a stranglehold because of what they perceive to
Speaker 2: be an inflated reputation. Okay, now, Georgia being in the
Speaker 2: consideration at number five ahead of Ohio State who won
Speaker 2: with only one loss, their conference and last year with
Speaker 2: two SEC teams getting in. And I can understand the
Speaker 2: frustration from people affiliated with conferences that haven't made it in.
Speaker 2: I do, and it's it's to me the eternal question
Speaker 2: of is this a TV show? Is this trying to
Speaker 2: be an actual competitive thing? Are we trying to get
Speaker 2: all the conferences represented because they all in some form
Speaker 2: pay into this system? What? What are we? What are
Speaker 2: we trying to do? Here? The Taylor twelve.
Speaker 1: I need to play this again.
Speaker 2: We haven't got Oh my god, sorry.
Speaker 1: This was inevitable, This this conversation. Maybe oh yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it's that breaking news, but it's right here in the
Speaker 1: art goal. The quote from Barry Alvarez, who was on
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoffs selection committee for three seasons, I
Speaker 1: guess quote.
Speaker 2: To be your interim coach at any time he's able.
Speaker 1: Barry Helperez is on the table. Quote. Everyone has the
Speaker 1: same feeling. Expansion is inevitable, no matter how many times
Speaker 1: we have this conversation.
Speaker 3: About should it be six or should it before? Should
Speaker 3: it be eight, should it be thirty two? No matter
Speaker 3: how many times we have this discussion. Here here is
Speaker 3: the cruel reality we have for now. If you double it.
Speaker 3: There is more money to be made. There's more money
Speaker 3: to be made. The contracts, the TV contracts will grow.
Speaker 3: Interest in the playoff system will grow because more teams
Speaker 3: will be included. For sure, there might be a bit
Speaker 3: of sacrificing the sanctity, if you.
Speaker 1: Will, of the regular season. But the truth of the
Speaker 1: matter is they're leaving money on the table and this
Speaker 1: is inevitable. It's inevitable it's going to happen. Not a
Speaker 1: question of if, merely a question of when for my money, yeah,
Speaker 1: and how agreed for my money. It's all about let's
Speaker 1: just get this thing done. What is inevitable should just
Speaker 1: be implemented. Now. They implemented this playoff in a matter
Speaker 1: of weeks, it felt when they finally decided to move
Speaker 1: to it. Let's just rip off the band aid, get
Speaker 1: this thing planned out, put the wheels in motion here
Speaker 1: and start it up like after next season. Why the
Speaker 1: hell not?
Speaker 2: So you're you're approaching it in a very third party
Speaker 2: ish kind of way, just saying I think it will happen.
Speaker 2: It makes sense. This is a sport that is constantly,
Speaker 2: like the universe, in perpetual expansion.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm a realist when it comes to this topic,
Speaker 1: it is going to happen. Whether you like it, whether
Speaker 1: I like it, whether we hate it, it is going
Speaker 1: to happen. So the sooner it happens, the sooner we
Speaker 1: can start working out the kinks.
Speaker 2: My question isn't will it. My question is what do
Speaker 2: you want?
Speaker 1: Ty?
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't matter or what you want, but
Speaker 2: what is your ideal you have? I mean, you're a
Speaker 2: prominent voice in the digital college universe.
Speaker 1: When you put it like that.
Speaker 2: What do you want? I what do you is? For
Speaker 2: competitive reasons, for entertainment reasons, and wherever that blends together.
Speaker 2: What do you want?
Speaker 1: I've always been a proponent of the Dan Wetzel plan,
Speaker 1: which is Game sixteen, some automatic bids in there, some
Speaker 1: games that are played at home fields of teams that qualify.
Speaker 1: I'm missing the details. I apologize to Dan, who's been
Speaker 1: on this program a bunch of times. Yeah, but I've
Speaker 1: always his plan to me, always felt like among all
Speaker 1: the other plans that were floated out there, at least
Speaker 1: his was the most well thought out, and it seemed
Speaker 1: to be the most inclusive to capture not only wild
Speaker 1: card teams but also conference champions and some of some
Speaker 1: of the group of five schools that have frankly been
Speaker 1: left out of the current model. That to me feels
Speaker 1: like the best thought out plan available, and I've always
Speaker 1: been a proponent of that. That being said, I think
Speaker 1: four has worked out pretty well so far, especially you're
Speaker 1: like this, it's worked out quite well. I think eight
Speaker 1: is the next logical jump. We might not be ready
Speaker 1: for sixteen at this point. It might require too much,
Speaker 1: too much of a logistical shift from where we're at
Speaker 1: to get there. I think eventually we will get there,
Speaker 1: But for now, the move to eight, I'm totally on
Speaker 1: board with it. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I think the question that's not being asked enough is
Speaker 2: do we want the playoff to be a playoff or
Speaker 2: do we want it to be solely an invitational to
Speaker 2: find a national champion? And that might sound like those
Speaker 2: are very similar ideas, But is it a matter of
Speaker 2: do we want this to become a month long thing,
Speaker 2: a three week long thing, a two week long thing,
Speaker 2: or do we want it to be just an extended
Speaker 2: national championship just that like final four situation. You know,
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament is a thing. The final four in
Speaker 2: the national championship game is a different thing. It's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a smaller part of that universe. And as soon
Speaker 2: as you go beyond four, it's not a national championship thing.
Speaker 2: It's just a thing thing. And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: That's fine by me. I just want it to be
Speaker 2: organized in such a way where if we are comparing teams,
Speaker 2: that we have similar data points. And that's what I
Speaker 2: tweeted out earlier today. I was like, going to eight
Speaker 2: is fine. Like I am never going to complain about
Speaker 2: more football. I'm not making any money, you know, relative
Speaker 2: to what these conferences are making from TV companies. I'm
Speaker 2: not making any more or less money based on what
Speaker 2: they do. We'll do another show about it, and that's
Speaker 2: pretty much how it'll affect my life other than watching
Speaker 2: more football. But we would probably if we want to
Speaker 2: get it right, and as the playoff becomes a Capital
Speaker 2: P playoff instead of a national championship grouping, then we
Speaker 2: have to discuss how do we make sure this national
Speaker 2: sport is if it's every conference, every Power five conference
Speaker 2: setting its champion to this playoff, plus whatever two at
Speaker 2: large and a group of five, which is the popular
Speaker 2: way to get to eight right now? It is How
Speaker 2: are we scheduling things? Is it eight game conference season?
Speaker 2: Is it nine game conference season? Are we doing pods?
Speaker 2: Like Bill Connolly has pretty intelligently laid out, what are
Speaker 2: we doing to get to the final point? Are we
Speaker 2: getting rid of divisions and conferences and just playing the
Speaker 2: best two teams so we can you know, not leave
Speaker 2: out you know, Alabama from last season, who was clearly
Speaker 2: one of the best two teams even with the Auburn
Speaker 2: loss in the SEC. How are we getting two conference champions?
Speaker 2: That's too conference champions? And so what are non conference
Speaker 2: schedules like? If we don't want it to be this
Speaker 2: national I'm okay with actually going back to the old
Speaker 2: PREBCS system. I'm just go back to chaos, embrace the chaos.
Speaker 2: You know, have your pack twelve and big ten teams
Speaker 2: in the rows.
Speaker 1: See, I'm not I'm not fine with that. I'm not
Speaker 1: fine with that because what if.
Speaker 2: A national championship isn't the point of college football?
Speaker 1: Tie? Well, then what is the point of college football?
Speaker 1: Why are you just win your games? Win your games?
Speaker 1: What's the if you wint up playing? If you're not
Speaker 1: going to win anything, you win the games. But if
Speaker 1: you can't win a title or something at the end
Speaker 1: of it, why play at all. They're all just exhibition
Speaker 1: games in that sense.
Speaker 2: They're not exhibition games. We embrace the fact that it's
Speaker 2: a weird sports that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: sense that UCF can win twenty five straight games and
Speaker 2: not play for anything with appreciable stakes like other teams,
Speaker 2: even though that they can schedule, you know, all of
Speaker 2: the Power five teams they want for September, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I do. I admire the willingness to just sort of
Speaker 1: go hard in the other direction, right, Yeah, I'm doing that.
Speaker 1: The sport is kind of oddly shaped. There's not a
Speaker 1: whole lot of symmetry, at least in terms of scheduling,
Speaker 1: at a minimum in terms of scheduling. And so maybe
Speaker 1: we'll never get to this point, but where we can
Speaker 1: crown a true quote unquote true national champion. That feels
Speaker 1: fair to everybody.
Speaker 2: But if the regular season is the most meaningful thing,
Speaker 2: why don't we put everything squarely.
Speaker 1: There right in? Let us know, you think we're at
Speaker 1: Soliverble and Gmail. You're telling me to write in that
Speaker 1: you you could deal with me, and you know the
Speaker 1: email dress. You know my email address. I am serious, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my serious email address.
Speaker 2: I am good with an eight teamer with normalized I'm
Speaker 2: good with a six teamer with normalized infrastructure, which means
Speaker 2: a full on governing body, because this is not the playoff,
Speaker 2: is not an NCAA event. That is nc DOUBLEA regulates
Speaker 2: eligibility and some rules, but it's not overseeing the competitive
Speaker 2: nature of the postseason.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what people have to say. I
Speaker 1: know this is kind of a charge topic. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to fight you to the death on your opinion
Speaker 1: on this matter. I've always been in favor of settling
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Speaker 1: the mindset that we should crown a national champion, I
Speaker 1: think you should decide it on the field. I don't
Speaker 1: think you should leave it up to voters or metrics
Speaker 1: or what people think. I think we should use some
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Speaker 1: be playing for it. I think that's fair, But I
Speaker 1: think you should decide it on the field. Who is
Speaker 1: your champion. Let's side field, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Just end the season with like thirty
Speaker 2: five bowl games, and that's that.
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Speaker 1: Let's correct. Let's steer into it. That is correct. So
Speaker 1: we do have some NFL declarations that I want to
Speaker 1: get to. But I feel like we've waited too long
Speaker 1: to talk about bulls. I'm kind of getting jumpy over here.
Speaker 2: You get a Lancy, let's a little answer.
Speaker 1: Do I play the picks of the week's sound because
Speaker 1: it's not technically a week It's like, we don't have
Speaker 1: a bowl sound per.
Speaker 2: Se unless you want to record one live right now?
Speaker 2: That might be our only option. What do you have, ty,
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just gonna play it. I'm just gonna play. We need
Speaker 1: to cradle and cultivate any new sound in this program
Speaker 1: we do.
Speaker 2: It's you know, we've been playing these for a while
Speaker 2: and we're not getting rid of them. But we can
Speaker 2: add Maybe we can.
Speaker 1: Next time next week when we do our next bull show.
Speaker 1: I need to think that's through. I can't do this haphazardly.
Speaker 2: Let's do what some really smart people did with Roger
Speaker 2: Ebert's voice when he lost his ability to speak. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we're able to make him sound like himself with
Speaker 2: the use of a machine. Let's do that with Taylor
Speaker 2: Twellman his voice to create new sounds. I can do that,
Speaker 2: by the way, yes, you know I can do that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past.
Speaker 1: You, all right. So we've got a bowl pool. It's
Speaker 1: a confidence pool. It works a little differently than the
Speaker 1: stuff we've been doing against the spread all year. The
Speaker 1: way this works is you go out to soliverble dot
Speaker 1: com slash Conpool again not the sequel to con Air, regrettably,
Speaker 1: and you pick the winners. You tell us who you
Speaker 1: think is going to win these games, and then as
Speaker 1: an additional layer on top of that, you tell us
Speaker 1: how confident you are on a scale of one, which
Speaker 1: is your least confident, to forty one, which you're most confident.
Speaker 1: If you correctly identify the winner, you get the number
Speaker 1: of points that you assigned to that game. So, for example,
Speaker 1: if you think, like most of the world that I
Speaker 1: don't know Tulane or Louisiana is gonna beat tou Lane.
Speaker 1: Let's say if you're very confident in that you pick Louisiana,
Speaker 1: Louisiana wins, you get forty points. You get forty points,
Speaker 1: so the deep end of the conpool, that's right. If
Speaker 1: you lose, you don't get any points. If you only
Speaker 1: put one, you only get one point. But it's very easy.
Speaker 1: We've got some of the smartest listeners in all the
Speaker 1: podcast the sphere listening to this show. Clearly people can
Speaker 1: figure this out.
Speaker 2: So to honor the conpool, I am going to select
Speaker 2: Bowl winners based on how buoyant I believe they're head coach.
Speaker 2: To be perfect PERF who the more buoyant head coaches
Speaker 2: in each matchup?
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: have a couple rules that I like to follow in
Speaker 1: confidence pools.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cop of years I have mine.
Speaker 1: Can I identify my three rules before we get use
Speaker 1: this flora is yours? So the first rule, it's one
Speaker 1: that I've discussed here at nauseum over the last couple
Speaker 1: of seasons, and I call it the East Coast Elliott rule.
Speaker 1: I didn't come up with it. I'm not smart enough
Speaker 1: to come up with it. East Coast Elliott is a
Speaker 1: bit of a mad scientist. He's the one that first
Speaker 1: introduced this to me. I think it's brilliant. His point
Speaker 1: is that you should load up on your confidence points
Speaker 1: early because there are a lot of these early games
Speaker 1: that people don't know about. But the early games tend
Speaker 1: to be bigger mismatches just because of the way things
Speaker 1: shake out, they tend to be bigger mismatches. Maybe they
Speaker 1: have the same record, but if you actually dig in,
Speaker 1: which we're going to start doing here through the first
Speaker 1: seven games, oftentimes the end up being bigger mismatches. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't put their early confidence points
Speaker 1: on those games because they don't know the teams. So
Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity for you if you can spot
Speaker 1: a mismatch to load up on points early and get
Speaker 1: some points on the board. So that's the first thing.
Speaker 1: Since I started doing that, I have done much much
Speaker 1: better in my own confidence pools. Nice, all right, So
Speaker 1: that's one. That's the first thing you should do. The
Speaker 1: second thing is just look at the at the setting
Speaker 1: for a bowl game. This has become, i think a
Speaker 1: little bit more prominent as of late because of guys
Speaker 1: sitting out for the NFL. But certainly we've just gotten
Speaker 1: done talking about coaching moves and all sorts of atmospherics
Speaker 1: that can play into what kind of team is going
Speaker 1: to the bowl. Right, So if a team lost its coach,
Speaker 1: consider picking the opponent. Not every case, but least at
Speaker 1: least consider it. If you've got a monster injury. You
Speaker 1: got to consider that. And then we've got this thing
Speaker 1: again with guys skipping their bowl games. I look at
Speaker 1: the game like between West Virginia and Syracuse, Will Greer
Speaker 1: quarterback not playing. To me, that's pretty significant. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Syracuse in that game. I'm gonna go Syracuse in
Speaker 1: that game almost solely because of Willgrew not playing. Consider it.
Speaker 1: And then the third rule, I'd say, just in general,
Speaker 1: pick the team that you think wants it more. Unless
Speaker 1: it's a total mismatch.
Speaker 2: WHOA.
Speaker 1: Unless it's a total mismatch, pick the team that you
Speaker 1: think wants it more. I'm looking at that Auburn Perdue
Speaker 1: game in the Music City Bowl, all right, I have
Speaker 1: to imagine that Auburn couldn't give a flying f about
Speaker 1: that football game. Why would they? It's Purdue. Meanwhile, Perdue,
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at it from a much different perspective.
Speaker 1: They're holding on to their coach who's done a great
Speaker 1: job in two seasons. I have to imagine the game
Speaker 1: means a hell of a lot more to them than
Speaker 1: it does Auburn. The question you have to ask yourself,
Speaker 1: is it too big of a mismatch? We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that in a few weeks. But these are the questions
Speaker 1: that I'm asking again on this show. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: the first batch of games, which runs from Saturday the fifteenth.
Speaker 1: This Saturday the fifteenth through Thursday the twentieth, we'll preview
Speaker 1: all of the FBS games, but it is worth noting
Speaker 1: that they're one other, one other game on your confidence pool,
Speaker 1: and that's the Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl between North
Speaker 1: Carolina A and T, the Aggies and the Alkhorn State Braves.
Speaker 1: They play it in Atlanta, North Carolina A and T
Speaker 1: favored by seven and a half. I'm not gonna pretend
Speaker 1: to know Hyde nor hair about this game or any
Speaker 1: of these teams. Right, I'm gonna get saucy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go against the Braves in Atlanta, and I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: North Carolina A and T a good team. They're gonna
Speaker 1: win outright, And I'm putting all forty one points in
Speaker 1: that first game.
Speaker 2: And once again, I only have one element that will
Speaker 2: help me pick these games, and that is buoyancy, the
Speaker 2: upward force exerted by a fluid that opposes the weight
Speaker 2: of an immersed object. And I am going to pick
Speaker 2: these games based on which coach seems more likely to
Speaker 2: float his buoyance.
Speaker 1: What are our options here?
Speaker 2: All right, let's start here with the You want to
Speaker 2: talk the AutoNation Cure Bowl, Willy Fritz personally, Well, no, no, no, hope.
Speaker 2: First off, who are you picking? In the Celebration Bowl.
Speaker 2: It was North Carolina A and T against Alcorn State.
Speaker 2: Let's go North Carolina A and T.
Speaker 1: Okay, we agree.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know that. I'm not going to pretend
Speaker 2: to the boyancies. I've done a lot of buoyancy research,
Speaker 2: but not about those two coaches.
Speaker 1: All right, now, were as you were?
Speaker 2: Uh, let's start here with the AutoNation Cure Bowl in Orlando.
Speaker 2: Tulane a decent enough season. They go six and six,
Speaker 2: but they're in a bowl game, and they've got a
Speaker 2: wonderful mascot in the Angry Wave, and they're taking on
Speaker 2: the rage in Cajuns of Louisiana aka Louisiana Lafayette. Willie Fritz,
Speaker 2: Billy Napier seven and six and Tulane I believe is
Speaker 2: favored by a field goal.
Speaker 1: Ish that is correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I my just gut is Tulane is better because
Speaker 2: Louisiana has the worst defense. And that's when I'm being serious.
Speaker 2: What I look at in a game like this, and
Speaker 2: Tulane can run the ball. I also believe Willie Fritz
Speaker 2: to be slightly more buoyant than Billy Napier.
Speaker 1: Okay, see, I look at this game a little differently.
Speaker 1: Tulane fired their oc after their offense was terrible. It
Speaker 1: was not good ninety third nationally in scoring. Also, look
Speaker 1: at four of Louisiana's six losses. They were to ten
Speaker 1: and two app State twice. They lost once in the
Speaker 1: regular season again in the title game. For their confidence.
Speaker 1: They lost to Mississippi State and Alabama. And they've got
Speaker 1: a really good running game in the backfield. Good losses, Yeah,
Speaker 1: good losses. The other team had some coaching turnover. I
Speaker 1: think the wrong team is favored here. I'm going Louisiana
Speaker 1: with a fair amount of confidence. I'll go let's say
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Wow, load up, Burt, really going early in
Speaker 1: the contact. That's what you do, man, all right with Okay,
Speaker 1: there is a layer. Yes, we need to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Please give me the layer tie. Because you put together
Speaker 1: swag Dan swag swag. Now I must admit I am
Speaker 1: hesitant to read some of these gifts aloud. So if
Speaker 1: you're listening for the first time, like what is this
Speaker 1: college football thing? The kids go to the bowl games
Speaker 1: and without exception, they all get gifts.
Speaker 2: Are you hesitant?
Speaker 1: Because I there are words in here that I have
Speaker 1: not practiced. Okay, and you know what happens to me.
Speaker 1: I tend to overthink it glow and that's when globe
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Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Here's what we've got here for the automation cure ball.
Speaker 1: A Hollowway Force jacket m HM, sunglasses with the carry case,
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Speaker 1: Beach slides it says here, which I'm guessing must be
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Speaker 1: believe is a bunch of toiletry bags. Toiletry bag, Yeah, useful,
Speaker 1: very useful, sport tech long sleeve contender T shirt, and
Speaker 1: a cap.
Speaker 2: I think this is a real winner of a swag list.
Speaker 1: What is a Holloway Force jacket.
Speaker 2: I looked it up. It's like a soft hoodie, like
Speaker 2: a thin soft hoodie that you'd maybe wear on like
Speaker 2: a slightly chilli day or around the house of it's
Speaker 2: little chili out. I'm wearing something comparable right now, and
Speaker 2: I think that's great and it looks great to me.
Speaker 2: Nobody on this list is paying for any sort of compliments.
Speaker 2: The power bank is great. I use my portable phone
Speaker 2: battery when we were in Fargo. The dop kit is useful.
Speaker 2: This is I would say, the solid B plus a
Speaker 2: minus right here.
Speaker 1: This is everything you need to go on like a
Speaker 1: nice day trip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. The Cure Bowl, le's we disagree.
Speaker 1: Moving on the New Mexico Bowl. They played in Albuquerque Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's at two pm on ESPN North Texas. The Mean
Speaker 1: Green at nine and three, squaring off against Utah State
Speaker 1: at ten and two. The point spread, for those that matter,
Speaker 1: is eight points in favor of the Utah State. Aggie's
Speaker 1: excuse me. You may remember that Utah State. We talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about them down the stretcher because they
Speaker 1: lost their coach, Matt Wells, to Texas Tech. He's taken
Speaker 1: a good chunk of that staff from Utah State with him.
Speaker 1: Of note, when you're picking games, Matt Wells will be
Speaker 1: involved in practice and in the game planning for the
Speaker 1: New Mexico Bowl, but he's not going to coach the
Speaker 1: team on game day. On the flip side, we got
Speaker 1: the mean green North Texas holding on to Seth Latrell
Speaker 1: after he was rumored for and eventually pulled his name
Speaker 1: out of that case State coaching search. This would be
Speaker 1: the first time that North Texas has won ten games
Speaker 1: since nineteen forty seven, and I'm not counting the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven season where they want a game in there
Speaker 1: because of a forfeit. So I think a lot on
Speaker 1: the line for North Texas. I think Utah stayed in
Speaker 1: a bit of coaching turmoil. You know how I feel
Speaker 1: about that rule number two. Though I feel like Utah
Speaker 1: State is better on both offense and defense, it's not
Speaker 1: what I would consider a full on mispatch. So I
Speaker 1: go mean green out right here to the tune of
Speaker 1: not like thirty eight points, but I'm gonna say twenty five.
Speaker 2: So Utah State's head coach who led them to this
Speaker 2: season will not be on the sidelines during the game. So,
Speaker 2: by default, Seth Latrell, the more buoyant of the two
Speaker 2: coaches in the Conpool. Also Utah State, while a really
Speaker 2: good year going ten to two and playing for the
Speaker 2: Mountain West. Well near the end they were in it
Speaker 2: for the Mountain West. They really inflated that record with
Speaker 2: some wins over some pretty bad teams. Whereas North Texas
Speaker 2: I felt like was a little bit more competitive, even
Speaker 2: though they do lose to I believe they lost early
Speaker 2: to you. Who do they lose to? UAB?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: With North Texas here. I think North Texas is the
Speaker 2: more stable program. Seth Latrell opted to stay in Denton.
Speaker 2: So I have the mean green twenty eight twenty one
Speaker 2: here with medium amount of confidence.
Speaker 1: WI all right, swag swag A gifts sweet? Okay, gifts sweet.
Speaker 1: So they put them in a room. I guess they
Speaker 1: let them walk around pick gifts, or they just give
Speaker 1: them a gift bag or something like that. Oakley Jupiter
Speaker 1: Squared sunglasses.
Speaker 2: I looked them up. They're all right, Okay, they're like
Speaker 2: a if you're bip Roberts. You didn't expect a bit
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Speaker 1: No? I didn't, Okay, I didn't. Also an Oakley five
Speaker 1: Speed backpack, a Bluetooth speaker, a water, bottle of beanie,
Speaker 1: a Montgomery fountain pen mm hm. You ever use a
Speaker 1: fountain pen before? Not often? Probably once or twice at
Speaker 1: a bank. Maybe takes a little finestan not gonna lie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And a headwear trucker's cap. That's what we're
Speaker 1: looking at here.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, this is fine.
Speaker 1: This is a beach trip. This is a beach trip,
Speaker 1: is what this is. The bluetooth speaker in the backpack
Speaker 1: and the sunglasses. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when you go to beachy Albuquerque nice, you have
Speaker 2: to you have to come prepared. A bluetooth speaker is great.
Speaker 2: It's valuable. Water always good and great for the environment.
Speaker 2: Not using plastic and uh, I'm it's fine. Nothing, that
Speaker 2: is why. And me, I don't know what's in the
Speaker 2: gift suite. I will you know. If there are a
Speaker 2: lot of enchiladas at the New Mexico Bowl, then you
Speaker 2: can sell.
Speaker 1: Me as always if any of these bulls want to
Speaker 1: send us free swag, we are interested. Yeah, or enchiladas
Speaker 1: also cenchiladas the mid Subishi Motors Las Vegas bull They
Speaker 1: play it at sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas. It's
Speaker 1: on ABC Saturday three thirty Arizona State at seven and
Speaker 1: five versus Fresno State, your Fresno State Bulldogs at eleven
Speaker 1: and two. They're a four point favorite. Of note here,
Speaker 1: Nikila Harry going pro will not be playing in this
Speaker 1: game for ASU, So again coming back to my rules,
Speaker 1: that's one strike against ASU. The other thing Dan when
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers for this game, Fresno's really legit.
Speaker 1: Like we didn't talk enough about it this season because
Speaker 1: a lot of times they're playing late. They're a group
Speaker 1: of five team and they don't maybe get as much
Speaker 1: visibility as some of the Power five games that we
Speaker 1: talk about. But this is a good football team. They're
Speaker 1: good on offense, they're top ten on defense, and they're
Speaker 1: a group of five school going up against a Pac
Speaker 1: twelve school, which to me says that they're going to
Speaker 1: be fired up for the bowl game. Plus, I believe
Speaker 1: it's Marcus mcmarion's final game as quarterback for Fresno SE.
Speaker 1: He got that feel good angle mixed in there as well.
Speaker 1: I am very confident in Fresno for all of those reasons,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go Fresno here minus the points
Speaker 1: early lock and forty confidence points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this feels like a who wants to be there?
Speaker 2: Who does in Arizona State in it pretty late for
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve South and don't make it happen. ASU
Speaker 2: also losing a key recruiting weekend with signing day coming
Speaker 2: just a couple days after this game. The game's on Saturday,
Speaker 2: the fifteenth, sign day I believe is what the eighteenth,
Speaker 2: nineteenth somewhere in the nineteenth. Yeah, and so this also
Speaker 2: plays into de facto Super Bowl time, that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because Fresno State on a big stage network TV. I
Speaker 2: think it's on ABC, right, yep, ABC. So this is
Speaker 2: a huge showcase for Fresno to potentially take down a
Speaker 2: Pac twelve team. So I think they match up well.
Speaker 2: They stop the run super well with with you know,
Speaker 2: Benjamin on the other side of Arizona State, it's gonna
Speaker 2: have to lean on that. So I'm I'm right there
Speaker 2: with you with a pretty high level of confidence in
Speaker 2: Fresno State. I also feel like herm Edwards is very dense,
Speaker 2: so I think he's sinking like a stone. So buoyancy wise, okay,
Speaker 2: I am. I'm taking Fresno State in the deep end
Speaker 2: of the conpool.
Speaker 1: They get a gift suite, a collectible Las Vegas item
Speaker 1: to be determined, A dad hat, a beanie, and a
Speaker 1: Fannie pack.
Speaker 2: Doesn't wow me. But you can eat super well.
Speaker 1: That gift suite's doing a lot of heavy lifting in this.
Speaker 2: Doing a lot of lifting. When was the last time
Speaker 2: you were in Vegas? It's been a long time.
Speaker 1: For me, man. I was there a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago for a conference for the Mysterious Daye But that
Speaker 1: was the last time.
Speaker 2: Did you eat well?
Speaker 1: I don't think I did. Actually, I know you can't
Speaker 1: eat well, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely.
Speaker 1: It was one of those these teams will Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was one of those conference deals where you know your
Speaker 1: schedule was kind of out of whack, and now I
Speaker 1: wasn't able to eat as well as I would have.
Speaker 2: Liked my food recommendation here because I'm not going to
Speaker 2: recommend something in the Giant Hotel. I haven't been there,
Speaker 2: but people I trust swear by Lotus of Siam, a
Speaker 2: tie place in like a strip mall that is apparently
Speaker 2: legendary in the Vegas area. So if you're an ASU
Speaker 2: fan or a Fresno States fan, Lotus of Siam.
Speaker 1: The raycom Media Camellia Bowl played at Montgomery, Alabama's Crampton
Speaker 1: Bowl Saturday thirty ESPN. We've got Georgia Southern at nine
Speaker 1: and three against Eastern Michigan at seven and five. Southern
Speaker 1: is a one point favorite. Team is a weird one
Speaker 1: if you ask me, because statistically pretty even match, and
Speaker 1: the point spread reflects that only one in favor of
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. So Vegas is seeing it too. The thing
Speaker 1: that I like is that Georgia Southern runs that option.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the shotgun flexbone thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough to simulate that. You can simulate it
Speaker 1: with your practice squad. It's tough to simulate it well
Speaker 1: enough that you can get good at stopping it, even
Speaker 1: if you've got some advanced notice knowing that it's coming.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Granted, I think the best unit on the field is
Speaker 1: that Eastern Michigan defense, but they're going to have their
Speaker 1: work cut out for them here. I think the option
Speaker 1: is too much for Eastern. I don't have a ton
Speaker 1: of confidence in this game, but I'm still gonna go
Speaker 1: a little higher than most and say twenty six points
Speaker 1: in favor of Southern.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. I'm worried about Eastern Michigan's defense,
Speaker 2: and I'm worried that you look at the teams that
Speaker 2: they were able to beat to get to this point,
Speaker 2: and there's not a lot of top sixty five seventy
Speaker 2: seventy five the way of SMP plus teams here. So
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan appol eligible and that's a huge win. I'm
Speaker 2: going Georgia Southern here, and it just so happened that
Speaker 2: I think Lunsford is a little bit more buoyant than
Speaker 2: Chris Creighton, who looks pretty jacked. Yeah yeah, Muscle is
Speaker 2: denser than fat. Yeah yeah. So I'm gonna go with
Speaker 2: a I'm go with the Eagles here.
Speaker 1: They get a gift suite, a fossil watch, a Samsonite
Speaker 1: rolling Duffel bag, a beanie nice a beanie, and a
Speaker 1: big game football, which is a specific kind of football.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're somebody.
Speaker 2: I don't think i'm speaking out of turn here, but
Speaker 2: you are somebody when given free bags or free luggage,
Speaker 2: you are happy to take advantage in perpetuity. I think
Speaker 2: you still use your National Championship backpack. I'm looking at
Speaker 2: it right now here in the studio. I took in
Speaker 2: a great job for US toting equipment here and there to.
Speaker 1: Farga North Dakota the National Championship North Texas twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: backpack that they gave us an Augio backpack. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see some Aji here a little bit later on in
Speaker 1: bowl season.
Speaker 2: This feels like a premium Duffel tie.
Speaker 1: It does got rolling wheels on it. That's not bad.
Speaker 2: It looks I don't know what. There are various sizes.
Speaker 2: Do you wear a watch? What a watch appeal to you?
Speaker 1: Here? The fossil watches tend to be a little too
Speaker 1: big for me, a little too much wash, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little too much watch face for me. But I
Speaker 1: think this is solid here, I genuinely do, and I
Speaker 1: believe no I'm wrong. I was gonna mention a restaurant,
Speaker 1: but that was Birmingham, not Montgomery. We'll move on, all right.
Speaker 1: The RNL Carrier's New Orleans Bowl played at Mercedes Benz
Speaker 1: Stadium in New Orleans Saturday, nine pm ESPN, Middle Tennessee
Speaker 1: against app State. App State is a seven point favorite.
Speaker 1: The teams here, it just says gift, sweet and fossil watch.
Speaker 2: Dan, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I would like a little bit more in the way
Speaker 1: of details before I score this one again. Gift suite
Speaker 1: doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Speaker 2: I'll bet there's good stuff. It's in New Orleans. Maybe
Speaker 2: we get some some beaded paraphernalia.
Speaker 1: Be careful, be careful with the beads on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 2: Do you know Ty that there is a basically a
Speaker 2: month long holiday in New Orleans in December where you
Speaker 2: can go to basically any restaurant and there's like a
Speaker 2: forty seven course to celebrate the holidays, and it looks fantastic.
Speaker 2: And for that reason, I think I'm actually going app
Speaker 2: State here. Okay, I think Tennessee's a little bit too close,
Speaker 2: a little bit too familiar with New Orleans in December
Speaker 2: where it's new to app State. I know we have
Speaker 2: a coaching situation with Scott Saderfield leaving for Louisville, so
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be paid. I'm not gonna be picking
Speaker 2: based on that. But yeah, I don't have a picture
Speaker 2: of Brent stock still in front of me. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go app State here. I'm going to go against East
Speaker 2: Coast Elliott with his you know, not having a coach whatever.
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee is another one of those teams that picked
Speaker 2: up a lot of wins against some lowly teams or
Speaker 2: as app State even without and I know Scott Saderfield
Speaker 2: is now bringing both his offensive and defensive coordinators from
Speaker 2: from to Louisville. I am going to go app State here.
Speaker 2: I just think their quality is too high and I'm
Speaker 2: going to do it with a good amount of confidence.
Speaker 1: So the mismatchometer is in the red. Yeah, you're burying
Speaker 1: the hunter here. Yeah. That and look, I think that
Speaker 1: is the exception to rule too. Yeah, if you find
Speaker 1: that it's a mismatch despite turnover of any kind, you
Speaker 1: go with the better team. And I think I agree
Speaker 1: with you here Again, Saderfield's got Sadurfield headed to Louisville.
Speaker 1: It was unclear initially if he was going to stick
Speaker 1: around and maybe coach app State in the bowl game,
Speaker 1: but that's not going to happen here. Mark Ivy is
Speaker 1: going to take over as the interim coach. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. App State's the better team. They're favored by
Speaker 1: a touchdown, They're Sophomore quarterback Zach Thomas has been ridiculous
Speaker 1: all season. Law He was named the Sun Belts Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the year. I think app State is the
Speaker 1: better team. I Am not going to put a high
Speaker 1: level of confidence on this one, like not forty points,
Speaker 1: but I feel like app State is definitely gonna win
Speaker 1: this football game. So I'm gonna go thirty one points
Speaker 1: on the Mountaineers.
Speaker 2: Quick correction, it is Rick Stockstell. Brent is his son
Speaker 2: who is the quarterback. I'm going to stand by my
Speaker 2: app State pick.
Speaker 1: The Seruh Bundy Boca Ratone Bowl. They play this one
Speaker 1: in Boca at Howard Schnellenberger Field at FAU Stadium. It's
Speaker 1: on Tuesday on ESPN seven pm. We've got UAB Howab
Speaker 1: at ten and three versus the Northern Illinois Huskies at
Speaker 1: eight and five. Howab is a two and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite. The teams in this one get a gift suite,
Speaker 1: a draw string backpack, a beach towel in a.
Speaker 2: Football well, you get to go to Boca. It's pretty
Speaker 2: nice down there, especially.
Speaker 1: Yes, draw string backpacks, in my experience, are usually pretty
Speaker 1: poorly made. Like that's a cheap gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't do a lot for me.
Speaker 1: You get that if you go to like a Microsoft conference. Okay,
Speaker 1: a draw string backpack you can do better. Cherub Bundy.
Speaker 2: What do you know what cherub Bundy is?
Speaker 1: No, what is cherubundy.
Speaker 2: Cherub Bundy is a tart cherry juice. Do you know
Speaker 2: what tart cherry juice is good for gout? I mean probably? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I tell you it's really good, and that makes sense
Speaker 2: that it would be. But I know it's also really
Speaker 2: good for muscle recovery, muscle relaxation, supposed to help you
Speaker 2: with your sleep a little bit. It's supposed to be
Speaker 2: very densely populated with good things for your body. Cher
Speaker 2: it my medical Yeah, I've never had cherub Bundy. I
Speaker 2: can't speak to that specific brand. I've just had it before,
Speaker 2: the juice itself. So I'm going to put a good
Speaker 2: amount of confidence in this conpool in U in NIU
Speaker 2: really Okay? Why I'm going with Northern Illinois. You look
Speaker 2: at the two schedules and you look at what they
Speaker 2: were and not able to do. And I had one
Speaker 2: of the secretly more impossible non conference schedules in America
Speaker 2: with Utah Florida State, and I want to say Iowa
Speaker 2: representing three of their five losses. They won the MAC.
Speaker 2: They had big wins over a couple of interesting teams,
Speaker 2: good teams like Buffalo in the championship game. Very strange
Speaker 2: to say so. In terms of that, I like Niu.
Speaker 2: I think UAB is just talent wise not necessarily on
Speaker 2: NIU's level. With that defense that should mostly shut down
Speaker 2: the Blazers. Okay, that's how I feel. Buoyancy wise, I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go NIU as well. This is going
Speaker 2: to be a super low scoring Bill Clark looks tense,
Speaker 2: super low scoring game because both defenses are pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The problem for me is that NIU's offense is genuinely bad,
Speaker 1: and I think they're more trouble scoring. I'm going on
Speaker 1: the Hoab train here, Dan, I am. I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it. Not a ton of confidence, so only ten
Speaker 1: confidence points.
Speaker 2: I think Rod Kerry floats, Yeah, he sounds like he does.
Speaker 2: I think Helot's yeah.
Speaker 1: Ten points. The d x L Frisco Bowl in Frisco,
Speaker 1: Texas at Toyota Stadium, I believe where they play the
Speaker 1: FCS National Championship correct Wednesday, eight pm, so probably around
Speaker 1: the time that we're going to be editing our show
Speaker 1: a week from today. It's San Diego State at seven
Speaker 1: and five it is the Ohio Bobcats at eight and
Speaker 1: four Ohio actually favored by three. They get a gift suite,
Speaker 1: a beanie cap, a coin, a pin, a big game football,
Speaker 1: and a Justin Cowboy hat.
Speaker 2: Dan, I've looked it up. You get Justin Cowboy hats
Speaker 2: on Amazon. Justin, I believe is a name brand. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: under what's Jared? He went to Jared, Oh, he's wearing
Speaker 2: just hat.
Speaker 1: That's right. Under what circumstances? Would you wear a cowboy hat?
Speaker 2: It won't wouldn't take much. Cowboy hats are great.
Speaker 1: Would you? What would it take for you to wear
Speaker 1: a hat out in Brooklyn? Just casually?
Speaker 2: Am I going somewhere? Am I going grocery shopping? Am
Speaker 2: I going to brunch? What's my mo here?
Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to know the scenario
Speaker 1: in which you would look around at baseball caps and
Speaker 1: beanies and whatever other headwear you have in your closet
Speaker 1: and decide that you're going to wear instead the Justin
Speaker 1: Cowboy hat out on the mean streets of Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I think it's a mood thing. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a situation thing. Actually, the more I think about it,
Speaker 2: sometimes you're just in a cowboy hat mood. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's that happened off. If you're going leather,
Speaker 2: often to you, it happens more than you'd think. It
Speaker 2: happens more than you'd think. And the justin hats look
Speaker 2: good enough. You have your beanie, you have your coin,
Speaker 2: you have a commemorative pin. I hope the gift suite
Speaker 2: is doing well in Frisco. By the way, do you
Speaker 2: know what DXL is?
Speaker 1: DXL isn't that the new version of big and Tall
Speaker 1: casual meal?
Speaker 2: It is? I think so D stands for a dude
Speaker 2: XL destination x L Okay. I clicked on this website
Speaker 2: and we've already we already have an apparel sponsor for
Speaker 2: this show. So all I'm going to say is, if
Speaker 2: you're a larger dude, seems pretty good. Seems pretty good.
Speaker 1: DXL Frisco Bowl, Get the cowboy hat, you get your
Speaker 1: your beanie, cap, your your coin, your pin. DXL, by
Speaker 1: the way, a great sponsor for a college bowl game.
Speaker 2: This would this would actually it would make sense that
Speaker 2: I don't see it here and maybe in previous years
Speaker 2: this was true of the Belk Bowl, where you get
Speaker 2: a shopping spree, you know, and they would always be
Speaker 2: like an unnamed amount of money or whatever to Belk.
Speaker 2: Do we have a DXL that we can get these
Speaker 2: offensive and defensive linemen to around Frisco. I'm looking up
Speaker 2: DXL locations. Unfortunately for US, ty we are not Excel people. No. Oh,
Speaker 2: they're all over Texas, Tye. The shops at Parclay in
Speaker 2: the Dallas area. Oh yeah, they're in Fort Worth. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Get yourself to a DXL if you're a larger human
Speaker 2: and you are playing in the DXL, which BAWL is US.
Speaker 1: The Frisco Bowl. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: So San Diego State, Ohio, San.
Speaker 1: Diego State, Ohio, Rocky Long, you know him. We've talked
Speaker 1: about him for SDSU. He's taken the Aztecs to a
Speaker 1: bowl game in all eight seasons that he's been there.
Speaker 1: The defense is there this year, but the offense really
Speaker 1: is that.
Speaker 2: They left the offense in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: The offense is taking a gap year. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think this presents it opening for an Ohio State now
Speaker 1: and I think this presents an opening for an Ohio team.
Speaker 1: It's been dynamic offensively.
Speaker 2: It's been battles, especially the back half of this year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last what five of their six games to
Speaker 1: close the season, they scored forty nine points at a
Speaker 1: minimum forty nine points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put it on.
Speaker 1: You could trast that with San Diego State, which lost
Speaker 1: four of their last five here. So you've got a
Speaker 1: real good clash of strength and weakness the Ohio offense,
Speaker 1: the ASTech defense, and then almost a battle of weaknesses
Speaker 1: between the San Diego State offense and the Ohio defense,
Speaker 1: which has also been pretty bad. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: Ohio here, Dan, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like the quarterback situation a lot more with
Speaker 2: the Bobcats when Nathan Rourke has been able to do.
Speaker 2: I am going Ohio here. I'm putting a good amount
Speaker 2: of confidence in a San Diego State. Even with the
Speaker 2: road win at Boise State, which was crazy impressive, it's
Speaker 2: just been kind of a nightmare of the back half
Speaker 2: of the year, just losing close, losing big, whatever. It
Speaker 2: hasn't been great for the Aztecs. It's been a guys,
Speaker 2: you're right, a gap year, and Frank Solich is a survivor,
Speaker 2: and so I don't think he's going down buoyancy whatever
Speaker 2: is opposing him. Rocky long, little older. I'm going with
Speaker 2: Frank Solich in the conpool. So a healthy amount of
Speaker 2: confidence here in the Bobcat.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight points for me.
Speaker 2: Whoa, oh you manly a strategy? All right, this is
Speaker 2: your all fantasy Baseball closer strategy.
Speaker 1: Punt on the winds, load up on stage. Why not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: finally we're gonna do this one, even though technically it
Speaker 1: will come after one of our upcoming shows. But just
Speaker 1: to give everyone a little bit more runway to make
Speaker 1: these picks, we're not going to preview every game tonight.
Speaker 1: It is the Bad Boy Mower's gas Parilla Bowl. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you again, is it Gasparilla or Gasparilla?
Speaker 2: I really, you know, I would hope it would be Gasparia,
Speaker 2: but I think it is Gasparilla.
Speaker 1: Gas Parilla? What is Gasparilla?
Speaker 2: We've talked about We've probably talked about this the entirety
Speaker 2: of this bowl existing. It's like a pirate themed something
Speaker 2: in Tampa parade, a celebration of some kind. So obviously
Speaker 2: you know about the Buccaneers in Tampa. There is that,
Speaker 2: you know, you have the ship and Raymond James, So
Speaker 2: I think it's along those lines.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm looking right now at bad Boy Mowers.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, as a new homeowner, I could
Speaker 1: get into this.
Speaker 2: You have a big yard.
Speaker 1: I could sink my teeth into a nice zero turn mower.
Speaker 2: You have handheld or a rider right now?
Speaker 1: I have a push mower right now? Self?
Speaker 2: You a push mower?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but these are rappy with it? I'm happy with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The riding mowers seem like you should only have them
Speaker 2: if you have a ton of lawn acres upon acres
Speaker 2: to mow, or walking is difficult. I say that as
Speaker 2: somebody who's never had a lawn, so maybe I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I could see the zero turn riding mower here, okay, and.
Speaker 2: What do you what are you walking away from this bowl?
Speaker 1: And if you're playing it says you're walking away with
Speaker 1: a gift suite, din.
Speaker 2: Come on, bad Boy Mowers. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I would go for the gift suite. Once in the
Speaker 2: gift suite, do you go for the big ticket items
Speaker 2: or do you load up on quantity.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go big ticket items. Right.
Speaker 2: You just take a Bluetooth speaker and that's that.
Speaker 1: Take the thing that you're gonna use, not the thing
Speaker 1: that you think you might use.
Speaker 2: But you could also get a bunch and give them
Speaker 2: away as gifts, bunch of little things.
Speaker 1: You could. But you earned it if you're a college
Speaker 1: football but you earned it. You put your blood, sweat
Speaker 1: and tears into this team all year. You go to
Speaker 1: the bowl game. This should be about celebrating you and
Speaker 1: your team. So pick something that you personally would want.
Speaker 2: Fair. Yeah, I could see somebody's aunt wanting a bad
Speaker 2: boy mower's gasparilla bowle pull over.
Speaker 1: Okay, I could all right. Well, Thursday, the twentieth of December,
Speaker 1: eight pm, ESPN, Marshall at eight and four, South Florida
Speaker 1: at seven and five. The Bulls are a two and
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. I've got two notes here, both
Speaker 1: of which are on the South Florida side. Number one
Speaker 1: st and Gilbert, their offensive coordinator, left to be the
Speaker 1: head coach at McNeese State. I don't know if that matters, because,
Speaker 1: as you know, not all coaching turnover is created equal.
Speaker 1: The Bulls on offense really limped to the finish out there, and.
Speaker 2: Yes they did.
Speaker 1: If you read what people are saying, Bulls fans were
Speaker 1: not happy with the product that Gilbert was putting out
Speaker 1: there down the stretch. So maybe this is for the better.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Point two, Blake Barnett actually hurt his
Speaker 1: shoulder and his ankle and he missed two of the
Speaker 1: last three games at the end of the year, which
Speaker 1: certainly contributes a little bit to any offensive woes. It
Speaker 1: is unclear at time of recording if he's going to
Speaker 1: play in this Bowl game, and even if he plays,
Speaker 1: how effective he will be. Well that as the backdrop, Dan,
Speaker 1: what do you got?
Speaker 2: First of all, there is a density to Charlie Strong
Speaker 2: that I do not trust in the conpool. There just isn't. Also,
Speaker 2: USF is playing at home and they're only favored by
Speaker 2: two and a half. That's worrisome to me. So give
Speaker 2: me Doc and Marshall. Give me Doc and the Herd.
Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go way, I'm gonna go Marshall as well.
Speaker 1: Because of the defense. Their offense is dreadful, very dreadful.
Speaker 2: It improved, it improved, Marshals.
Speaker 1: It improved, and it's still dreadful, which tells us something.
Speaker 1: But maybe they get a big player from Tyer Brady.
Speaker 1: Their playmaker out wide. Maybe it's just a stifling effort
Speaker 1: from the defense, but there's enough uncertainty on the South
Speaker 1: Florida side. I agree with you. Playing the game at
Speaker 1: home and only being favored by two and a half
Speaker 1: against a team that has a pretty bad offense. That's
Speaker 1: a bit of an indicator. I am not very confident
Speaker 1: in this Marshall pick, mind you. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Marshall with like, let's say twelve points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say nine or ten.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm gonna go twelve.
Speaker 2: They definitely played better second half of it year, but
Speaker 2: this is more betting against the or betting, yeah, betting
Speaker 2: against the lack of momentum that USF has right now
Speaker 2: as a program. Defense takes a big step in the
Speaker 2: wrong direction this year. You know, there's unhappiness, you know
Speaker 2: with Sterling Gilbert as you mentioned, and the health at quarterback.
Speaker 2: It's all worrisome to me. So I'm going with stability here.
Speaker 2: I'm going with.
Speaker 1: Marshall again my three rules. We're not going to be
Speaker 1: with you to make all of these picks. But as
Speaker 1: you make the picks first and foremost, well it up early.
Speaker 1: Get all your confidence points out early or as many
Speaker 1: as you're willing to gamble early, get them out there.
Speaker 1: Number two consider the turnover right coaches leaving, are their
Speaker 1: injuries or the guys sitting out? Considerate, look to see
Speaker 1: if it's a mismatch, but at least considerate. And number
Speaker 1: three look to see motivation. Who wants to be there?
Speaker 1: Who doesn't?
Speaker 2: And number four buoyancy buoyancy right conpool buoyancy and I'm
Speaker 2: not loving Charlie Strong in a pool right now.
Speaker 1: Sad to say, well, there you go, there's your first
Speaker 1: batch of games here. Yeah on the verbal hope it
Speaker 1: helps again. Soliverble at gmail dot com emails so let
Speaker 1: us know what you think would be curious.
Speaker 2: So there are one, two, three, four five on Saturday. Yes,
Speaker 2: Saturday is a pretty fun day because we haven't had
Speaker 2: football in a little while on this level on the
Speaker 2: FBS and Power five levels, since we do have Arizona
Speaker 2: State playing, but everybody's going to be tuned in basically
Speaker 2: watching the same games at stretches four stretches. We'll have
Speaker 2: a lot of eyeballs on Arizona State Fresno State, which
Speaker 2: is never true. We'll have a lot of eyeballs on
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern Eastern Michigan, which would never be true. I
Speaker 2: know there's Thursday night games and Wednesday night games, Tuesday
Speaker 2: night games, but this is everybody on a Saturday in
Speaker 2: front of a TV paying attention to teams that maybe
Speaker 2: the casual fan doesn't always pay attention to. So there
Speaker 2: is something that I still maintain is pretty cool about
Speaker 2: this Opening Bowl Saturday.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we got Tuesday is UAB, Wednesday is
Speaker 2: San Diego State, Ohio. Thursday Marshall USF. That's great.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We'll be back again on Sunday.
Speaker 1: We're gonna preview more Bowl games. We'll probably i'm sure,
Speaker 1: talk about some of the results of these games on Saturday.
Speaker 1: But make sure if you haven't already to sign up
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Speaker 1: T shirt. We'll hook you up, we promise. Okay. On
Speaker 1: that note, Dan, and before we go any further, please
Speaker 1: tell me some of the names of guys who have
Speaker 1: decided they're going to go early to the NFL.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's happening more and more, and it'll happen
Speaker 2: after bowl games as well. I think you can have
Speaker 2: until mid January. I want to say, is a cut
Speaker 2: off point. Yeah, they've been changing it. Jared'stidham for Auburn.
Speaker 2: He certainly considered it last year and heard his stock
Speaker 2: coming back with his season, But we'll see how he's evaluated.
Speaker 2: Greedy Williams at LSU considered to be one of, if
Speaker 2: not the best cover corner in the nation. Noah fanse
Speaker 2: Tight you know Iowa, mister incredible for Iowa. Did a
Speaker 2: great job alongside t J. Hawkinson this year. Brian Burns
Speaker 2: the end at Florida State, really good pass rusher, AJ Brown,
Speaker 2: and just have agreaker in general. AJ Brown, who is
Speaker 2: among the most talented receivers in the country, wasn't as
Speaker 2: prolific this year with some inconsistencies with ole Miss in general.
Speaker 2: DJ Metcalf, same story there with ole Miss and Greg Little.
Speaker 2: A nice year and a nice enough year. I haven't
Speaker 2: watched a lot of tape on left tackle for ole Miss,
Speaker 2: but came in super highly regarded and obviously either as
Speaker 2: done with his time at ole Miss or feels he
Speaker 2: can make a splash in the NFL. So those are
Speaker 2: some of the big ones that have happened in the last
Speaker 2: few days. I saw FAU. I think it's Devin Singletary
Speaker 2: who had a crazy good twenty seventeen. He declared as well.
Speaker 2: So there are more names pay attention to. But it
Speaker 2: keeps happening. It's going to just like every year. It's
Speaker 2: going to be a completely new look year in college football.
Speaker 2: I think the heater just kicked on in this room.
Speaker 1: Yeah hear it, I do hear it in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. That was unexpected.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's a good time then to depart.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Thank you again to everyone for downloading the show. Please
Speaker 1: do get on in that confidence pool. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on Sunday to talk more college football, more bowl season,
Speaker 1: more news, where coaching carousel. Who knows what will pop
Speaker 1: up after we hit the stop button. But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your week, Enjoy your weekend. My
Speaker 1: name is Ty, his name is Dan. Until next time,
Speaker 1: stay solid, peace,