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Speaker 2: Come that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy? For day at the State?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 1: And now down and tie. Welcome back to the solid

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Speaker 1: Burbo boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining

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Speaker 1: me as always back over there in New York City,

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Speaker 1: the NYC. We are back. His name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Is it just me tie?

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Speaker 2: Or is Fargo calling us back?

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels like a siren call, haunting us

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Speaker 2: You know the people that sort of go door to

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Speaker 2: door asking I'm not even speaking about one particular religion.

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Speaker 2: do you feel like something's missing from your life? Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Are you looking to fill the emptiness that you feel?

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Speaker 2: The void?

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Speaker 2: I since I've been back in New York, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. How many people have

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Speaker 2: Spoke to Mamma Rubinstein today. She asked how Fargo went.

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Speaker 2: A couple of people saw that, Like we tweeted out

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Speaker 2: the travelog video. Great job in an episode, great thank you.

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Speaker 2: It came out really, really nicely. I was happy with it.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question. Here's where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mind's at about eighty five percent.

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Speaker 2: I'd say my mom is at the point with me

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Speaker 1: This is true, This is true.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was everything that mattered.

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Speaker 1: like a two minute condensed video version of what we

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Speaker 1: There has been immediate feedback to the video to the

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Speaker 2: We're coming for you Cheney, Washington, Nnesaw, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, on that note, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: since we opened with Fargo. Yeah, talk Chris Cleman, the

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Speaker 2: He sixty six and seven, sixty six and sixty seven and.

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Speaker 1: Six, seven and six. Yeah, and he's going to be

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Speaker 2: Yes, and Jim Trussel similar not identical situation going from

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Speaker 1: This was inevitable, This this conversation. Maybe oh yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: What's the if you wint up playing? If you're not

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Speaker 1: going to win anything, you win the games. But if

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Speaker 1: of it, why play at all. They're all just exhibition

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Speaker 2: They're not exhibition games. We embrace the fact that it's

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Speaker 2: a weird sports that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make

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Speaker 2: sense that UCF can win twenty five straight games and

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Speaker 2: not play for anything with appreciable stakes like other teams,

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Speaker 2: even though that they can schedule, you know, all of

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Speaker 2: the Power five teams they want for September, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I do. I admire the willingness to just sort of

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Speaker 1: go hard in the other direction, right, Yeah, I'm doing that.

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Speaker 1: The sport is kind of oddly shaped. There's not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of symmetry, at least in terms of scheduling,

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Speaker 1: at a minimum in terms of scheduling. And so maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll never get to this point, but where we can

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Speaker 1: crown a true quote unquote true national champion. That feels

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Speaker 1: fair to everybody.

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Speaker 2: But if the regular season is the most meaningful thing,

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Speaker 2: why don't we put everything squarely.

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Speaker 1: There right in? Let us know, you think we're at

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Speaker 1: email dress. You know my email address. I am serious, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I am good with an eight teamer with normalized I'm

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Speaker 2: good with a six teamer with normalized infrastructure, which means

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Speaker 2: a full on governing body, because this is not the playoff,

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Speaker 2: is not an NCAA event. That is nc DOUBLEA regulates

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Speaker 2: eligibility and some rules, but it's not overseeing the competitive

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what people have to say. I

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Speaker 1: know this is kind of a charge topic. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to fight you to the death on your opinion

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Speaker 1: on this matter. I've always been in favor of settling

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Speaker 1: it on the field. If you're going to be of

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Speaker 1: the mindset that we should crown a national champion, I

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Speaker 1: think you should decide it on the field. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you should leave it up to voters or metrics

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Speaker 1: be playing for it. I think that's fair, But I

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Speaker 1: think you should decide it on the field. Who is

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Speaker 1: your champion. Let's side field, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Just end the season with like thirty

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Speaker 2: five bowl games, and that's that.

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Speaker 1: Let's correct. Let's steer into it. That is correct. So

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Speaker 1: we do have some NFL declarations that I want to

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Speaker 1: get to. But I feel like we've waited too long

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Speaker 1: to talk about bulls. I'm kind of getting jumpy over here.

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Speaker 2: You get a Lancy, let's a little answer.

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Speaker 1: Do I play the picks of the week's sound because

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Speaker 1: it's not technically a week It's like, we don't have

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Speaker 1: a bowl sound per.

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Speaker 2: Se unless you want to record one live right now?

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Speaker 2: That might be our only option. What do you have, ty,

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Speaker 2: Come on, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just gonna play it. I'm just gonna play. We need

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Speaker 1: we do.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, we've been playing these for a while

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Speaker 2: and we're not getting rid of them. But we can

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Speaker 2: add Maybe we can.

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Speaker 1: Next time next week when we do our next bull show.

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Speaker 1: I need to think that's through. I can't do this haphazardly.

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Speaker 2: Let's do what some really smart people did with Roger

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Speaker 2: Ebert's voice when he lost his ability to speak. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we're able to make him sound like himself with

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Speaker 2: the use of a machine. Let's do that with Taylor

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Speaker 2: Twellman his voice to create new sounds. I can do that,

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Speaker 2: by the way, yes, you know I can do that.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past.

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Speaker 1: You, all right. So we've got a bowl pool. It's

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Speaker 1: a confidence pool. It works a little differently than the

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Speaker 1: stuff we've been doing against the spread all year. The

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Speaker 1: way this works is you go out to soliverble dot

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Speaker 1: and you pick the winners. You tell us who you

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Speaker 1: think is going to win these games, and then as

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Speaker 1: an additional layer on top of that, you tell us

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Speaker 1: how confident you are on a scale of one, which

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Speaker 1: is your least confident, to forty one, which you're most confident.

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Speaker 1: If you correctly identify the winner, you get the number

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Speaker 1: of points that you assigned to that game. So, for example,

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Speaker 1: if you think, like most of the world that I

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Speaker 1: don't know Tulane or Louisiana is gonna beat tou Lane.

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Speaker 1: Let's say if you're very confident in that you pick Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: Louisiana wins, you get forty points. You get forty points,

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Speaker 1: so the deep end of the conpool, that's right. If

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Speaker 1: you lose, you don't get any points. If you only

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Speaker 1: put one, you only get one point. But it's very easy.

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Speaker 1: We've got some of the smartest listeners in all the

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Speaker 1: podcast the sphere listening to this show. Clearly people can

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Speaker 1: figure this out.

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Speaker 2: So to honor the conpool, I am going to select

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Speaker 2: Bowl winners based on how buoyant I believe they're head coach.

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Speaker 2: To be perfect PERF who the more buoyant head coaches

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Speaker 2: in each matchup?

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: have a couple rules that I like to follow in

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Speaker 1: confidence pools.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cop of years I have mine.

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Speaker 1: Can I identify my three rules before we get use

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Speaker 1: this flora is yours? So the first rule, it's one

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Speaker 1: that I've discussed here at nauseum over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons, and I call it the East Coast Elliott rule.

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Speaker 1: I didn't come up with it. I'm not smart enough

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Speaker 1: to come up with it. East Coast Elliott is a

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Speaker 1: introduced this to me. I think it's brilliant. His point

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Speaker 1: early because there are a lot of these early games

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Speaker 1: to be bigger mismatches just because of the way things

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Speaker 1: shake out, they tend to be bigger mismatches. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: have the same record, but if you actually dig in,

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Speaker 1: which we're going to start doing here through the first

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Speaker 1: seven games, oftentimes the end up being bigger mismatches. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't put their early confidence points

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Speaker 1: on those games because they don't know the teams. So

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Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity for you if you can spot

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Speaker 1: a mismatch to load up on points early and get

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Speaker 1: some points on the board. So that's the first thing.

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Speaker 1: Since I started doing that, I have done much much

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Speaker 1: better in my own confidence pools. Nice, all right, So

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Speaker 1: that's one. That's the first thing you should do. The

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Speaker 1: second thing is just look at the at the setting

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Speaker 1: for a bowl game. This has become, i think a

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Speaker 1: little bit more prominent as of late because of guys

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Speaker 1: sitting out for the NFL. But certainly we've just gotten

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Speaker 1: done talking about coaching moves and all sorts of atmospherics

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Speaker 1: that can play into what kind of team is going

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Speaker 1: to the bowl. Right, So if a team lost its coach,

654
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: consider picking the opponent. Not every case, but least at

655
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: least consider it. If you've got a monster injury. You

656
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: got to consider that. And then we've got this thing

657
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: again with guys skipping their bowl games. I look at

658
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: the game like between West Virginia and Syracuse, Will Greer

659
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: quarterback not playing. To me, that's pretty significant. I'm gonna

660
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: go Syracuse in that game. I'm gonna go Syracuse in

661
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: that game almost solely because of Willgrew not playing. Consider it.

662
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: And then the third rule, I'd say, just in general,

663
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: pick the team that you think wants it more. Unless

664
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: it's a total mismatch.

665
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: WHOA.

666
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: Unless it's a total mismatch, pick the team that you

667
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: think wants it more. I'm looking at that Auburn Perdue

668
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: game in the Music City Bowl, all right, I have

669
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: to imagine that Auburn couldn't give a flying f about

670
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: that football game. Why would they? It's Purdue. Meanwhile, Perdue,

671
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at it from a much different perspective.

672
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: They're holding on to their coach who's done a great

673
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: job in two seasons. I have to imagine the game

674
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: means a hell of a lot more to them than

675
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: it does Auburn. The question you have to ask yourself,

676
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: is it too big of a mismatch? We'll talk about

677
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: that in a few weeks. But these are the questions

678
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: that I'm asking again on this show. We're gonna be

679
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: the first batch of games, which runs from Saturday the fifteenth.

680
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: This Saturday the fifteenth through Thursday the twentieth, we'll preview

681
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: all of the FBS games, but it is worth noting

682
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: that they're one other, one other game on your confidence pool,

683
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: and that's the Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl between North

684
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Carolina A and T, the Aggies and the Alkhorn State Braves.

685
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: They play it in Atlanta, North Carolina A and T

686
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: favored by seven and a half. I'm not gonna pretend

687
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: to know Hyde nor hair about this game or any

688
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: of these teams. Right, I'm gonna get saucy. I'm gonna

689
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: go against the Braves in Atlanta, and I'm gonna say

690
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 1: North Carolina A and T a good team. They're gonna

691
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: win outright, And I'm putting all forty one points in

692
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: that first game.

693
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: And once again, I only have one element that will

694
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: help me pick these games, and that is buoyancy, the

695
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: upward force exerted by a fluid that opposes the weight

696
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: of an immersed object. And I am going to pick

697
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: these games based on which coach seems more likely to

698
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: float his buoyance.

699
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: What are our options here?

700
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's start here with the You want to

701
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: talk the AutoNation Cure Bowl, Willy Fritz personally, Well, no, no, no, hope.

702
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: First off, who are you picking? In the Celebration Bowl.

703
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 2: It was North Carolina A and T against Alcorn State.

704
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: Let's go North Carolina A and T.

705
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: Okay, we agree.

706
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know that. I'm not going to pretend

707
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: to the boyancies. I've done a lot of buoyancy research,

708
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: but not about those two coaches.

709
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: All right, now, were as you were?

710
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: Uh, let's start here with the AutoNation Cure Bowl in Orlando.

711
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: Tulane a decent enough season. They go six and six,

712
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: but they're in a bowl game, and they've got a

713
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: wonderful mascot in the Angry Wave, and they're taking on

714
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: the rage in Cajuns of Louisiana aka Louisiana Lafayette. Willie Fritz,

715
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: Billy Napier seven and six and Tulane I believe is

716
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: favored by a field goal.

717
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: Ish that is correct.

718
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I my just gut is Tulane is better because

719
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: Louisiana has the worst defense. And that's when I'm being serious.

720
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: What I look at in a game like this, and

721
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Tulane can run the ball. I also believe Willie Fritz

722
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: to be slightly more buoyant than Billy Napier.

723
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Okay, see, I look at this game a little differently.

724
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Tulane fired their oc after their offense was terrible. It

725
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: was not good ninety third nationally in scoring. Also, look

726
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: at four of Louisiana's six losses. They were to ten

727
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: and two app State twice. They lost once in the

728
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: regular season again in the title game. For their confidence.

729
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: They lost to Mississippi State and Alabama. And they've got

730
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: a really good running game in the backfield. Good losses, Yeah,

731
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: good losses. The other team had some coaching turnover. I

732
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: think the wrong team is favored here. I'm going Louisiana

733
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: with a fair amount of confidence. I'll go let's say

734
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Wow, load up, Burt, really going early in

735
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: the contact. That's what you do, man, all right with Okay,

736
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: there is a layer. Yes, we need to talk about this.

737
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: Please give me the layer tie. Because you put together

738
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: swag Dan swag swag. Now I must admit I am

739
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: hesitant to read some of these gifts aloud. So if

740
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: you're listening for the first time, like what is this

741
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: college football thing? The kids go to the bowl games

742
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: and without exception, they all get gifts.

743
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: Are you hesitant?

744
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: Because I there are words in here that I have

745
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: not practiced. Okay, and you know what happens to me.

746
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: I tend to overthink it glow and that's when globe

747
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: tomatoes turn into globe tomatoes, which do not exist.

748
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: Right.

749
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Here's what we've got here for the automation cure ball.

750
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: A Hollowway Force jacket m HM, sunglasses with the carry case,

751
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: an energizer power bank, a Duffel bag, pebble beach pebble

752
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Beach slides it says here, which I'm guessing must be

753
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: the new eye slide sandals, a dop kit, which I

754
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: believe is a bunch of toiletry bags. Toiletry bag, Yeah, useful,

755
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: very useful, sport tech long sleeve contender T shirt, and

756
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: a cap.

757
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: I think this is a real winner of a swag list.

758
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: What is a Holloway Force jacket.

759
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: I looked it up. It's like a soft hoodie, like

760
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: a thin soft hoodie that you'd maybe wear on like

761
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: a slightly chilli day or around the house of it's

762
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: little chili out. I'm wearing something comparable right now, and

763
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: I think that's great and it looks great to me.

764
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: Nobody on this list is paying for any sort of compliments.

765
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: The power bank is great. I use my portable phone

766
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: battery when we were in Fargo. The dop kit is useful.

767
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: This is I would say, the solid B plus a

768
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: minus right here.

769
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: This is everything you need to go on like a

770
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: nice day trip.

771
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. The Cure Bowl, le's we disagree.

772
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: Moving on the New Mexico Bowl. They played in Albuquerque Saturday.

773
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: It's at two pm on ESPN North Texas. The Mean

774
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: Green at nine and three, squaring off against Utah State

775
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: at ten and two. The point spread, for those that matter,

776
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: is eight points in favor of the Utah State. Aggie's

777
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: excuse me. You may remember that Utah State. We talked

778
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: a little bit about them down the stretcher because they

779
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: lost their coach, Matt Wells, to Texas Tech. He's taken

780
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: a good chunk of that staff from Utah State with him.

781
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: Of note, when you're picking games, Matt Wells will be

782
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: involved in practice and in the game planning for the

783
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: New Mexico Bowl, but he's not going to coach the

784
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: team on game day. On the flip side, we got

785
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: the mean green North Texas holding on to Seth Latrell

786
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: after he was rumored for and eventually pulled his name

787
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: out of that case State coaching search. This would be

788
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: the first time that North Texas has won ten games

789
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: since nineteen forty seven, and I'm not counting the nineteen

790
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: seventy seven season where they want a game in there

791
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: because of a forfeit. So I think a lot on

792
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: the line for North Texas. I think Utah stayed in

793
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: a bit of coaching turmoil. You know how I feel

794
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: about that rule number two. Though I feel like Utah

795
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: State is better on both offense and defense, it's not

796
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: what I would consider a full on mispatch. So I

797
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: go mean green out right here to the tune of

798
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: not like thirty eight points, but I'm gonna say twenty five.

799
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: So Utah State's head coach who led them to this

800
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: season will not be on the sidelines during the game. So,

801
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: by default, Seth Latrell, the more buoyant of the two

802
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: coaches in the Conpool. Also Utah State, while a really

803
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: good year going ten to two and playing for the

804
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Mountain West. Well near the end they were in it

805
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: for the Mountain West. They really inflated that record with

806
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: some wins over some pretty bad teams. Whereas North Texas

807
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: I felt like was a little bit more competitive, even

808
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: though they do lose to I believe they lost early

809
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: to you. Who do they lose to? UAB?

810
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go.

811
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: With North Texas here. I think North Texas is the

812
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: more stable program. Seth Latrell opted to stay in Denton.

813
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: So I have the mean green twenty eight twenty one

814
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: here with medium amount of confidence.

815
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: WI all right, swag swag A gifts sweet? Okay, gifts sweet.

816
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: So they put them in a room. I guess they

817
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: let them walk around pick gifts, or they just give

818
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: them a gift bag or something like that. Oakley Jupiter

819
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: Squared sunglasses.

820
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: I looked them up. They're all right, Okay, they're like

821
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: a if you're bip Roberts. You didn't expect a bit

822
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: Roberts reference, did you?

823
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: No? I didn't, Okay, I didn't. Also an Oakley five

824
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Speed backpack, a Bluetooth speaker, a water, bottle of beanie,

825
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: a Montgomery fountain pen mm hm. You ever use a

826
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: fountain pen before? Not often? Probably once or twice at

827
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: a bank. Maybe takes a little finestan not gonna lie. Yeah,

828
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And a headwear trucker's cap. That's what we're

829
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: looking at here.

830
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, this is fine.

831
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: This is a beach trip. This is a beach trip,

832
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: is what this is. The bluetooth speaker in the backpack

833
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: and the sunglasses. Yeah.

834
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: And when you go to beachy Albuquerque nice, you have

835
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 2: to you have to come prepared. A bluetooth speaker is great.

836
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: It's valuable. Water always good and great for the environment.

837
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Not using plastic and uh, I'm it's fine. Nothing, that

838
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: is why. And me, I don't know what's in the

839
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: gift suite. I will you know. If there are a

840
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: lot of enchiladas at the New Mexico Bowl, then you

841
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: can sell.

842
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: Me as always if any of these bulls want to

843
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: send us free swag, we are interested. Yeah, or enchiladas

844
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: also cenchiladas the mid Subishi Motors Las Vegas bull They

845
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: play it at sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas. It's

846
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: on ABC Saturday three thirty Arizona State at seven and

847
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: five versus Fresno State, your Fresno State Bulldogs at eleven

848
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: and two. They're a four point favorite. Of note here,

849
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: Nikila Harry going pro will not be playing in this

850
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: game for ASU, So again coming back to my rules,

851
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: that's one strike against ASU. The other thing Dan when

852
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers for this game, Fresno's really legit.

853
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Like we didn't talk enough about it this season because

854
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: a lot of times they're playing late. They're a group

855
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: of five team and they don't maybe get as much

856
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: visibility as some of the Power five games that we

857
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: talk about. But this is a good football team. They're

858
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: good on offense, they're top ten on defense, and they're

859
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: a group of five school going up against a Pac

860
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: twelve school, which to me says that they're going to

861
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: be fired up for the bowl game. Plus, I believe

862
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: it's Marcus mcmarion's final game as quarterback for Fresno SE.

863
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: He got that feel good angle mixed in there as well.

864
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: I am very confident in Fresno for all of those reasons,

865
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go Fresno here minus the points

866
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: early lock and forty confidence points.

867
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this feels like a who wants to be there?

868
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: Who does in Arizona State in it pretty late for

869
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve South and don't make it happen. ASU

870
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: also losing a key recruiting weekend with signing day coming

871
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: just a couple days after this game. The game's on Saturday,

872
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: the fifteenth, sign day I believe is what the eighteenth,

873
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: nineteenth somewhere in the nineteenth. Yeah, and so this also

874
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: plays into de facto Super Bowl time, that's right, Yeah,

875
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: because Fresno State on a big stage network TV. I

876
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: think it's on ABC, right, yep, ABC. So this is

877
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: a huge showcase for Fresno to potentially take down a

878
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: Pac twelve team. So I think they match up well.

879
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: They stop the run super well with with you know,

880
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: Benjamin on the other side of Arizona State, it's gonna

881
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: have to lean on that. So I'm I'm right there

882
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: with you with a pretty high level of confidence in

883
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: Fresno State. I also feel like herm Edwards is very dense,

884
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 2: so I think he's sinking like a stone. So buoyancy wise, okay,

885
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: I am. I'm taking Fresno State in the deep end

886
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: of the conpool.

887
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: They get a gift suite, a collectible Las Vegas item

888
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: to be determined, A dad hat, a beanie, and a

889
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: Fannie pack.

890
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't wow me. But you can eat super well.

891
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: That gift suite's doing a lot of heavy lifting in this.

892
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: Doing a lot of lifting. When was the last time

893
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: you were in Vegas? It's been a long time.

894
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: For me, man. I was there a couple of years

895
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: ago for a conference for the Mysterious Daye But that

896
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: was the last time.

897
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: Did you eat well?

898
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I did. Actually, I know you can't

899
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: eat well, but.

900
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely.

901
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: It was one of those these teams will Yeah, it

902
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: was one of those conference deals where you know your

903
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: schedule was kind of out of whack, and now I

904
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: wasn't able to eat as well as I would have.

905
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: Liked my food recommendation here because I'm not going to

906
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: recommend something in the Giant Hotel. I haven't been there,

907
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: but people I trust swear by Lotus of Siam, a

908
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: tie place in like a strip mall that is apparently

909
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: legendary in the Vegas area. So if you're an ASU

910
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: fan or a Fresno States fan, Lotus of Siam.

911
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: The raycom Media Camellia Bowl played at Montgomery, Alabama's Crampton

912
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: Bowl Saturday thirty ESPN. We've got Georgia Southern at nine

913
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: and three against Eastern Michigan at seven and five. Southern

914
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: is a one point favorite. Team is a weird one

915
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: if you ask me, because statistically pretty even match, and

916
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: the point spread reflects that only one in favor of

917
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. So Vegas is seeing it too. The thing

918
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: that I like is that Georgia Southern runs that option.

919
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the shotgun flexbone thing. Yeah.

920
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough to simulate that. You can simulate it

921
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: with your practice squad. It's tough to simulate it well

922
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: enough that you can get good at stopping it, even

923
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: if you've got some advanced notice knowing that it's coming.

924
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: Now.

925
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: Granted, I think the best unit on the field is

926
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: that Eastern Michigan defense, but they're going to have their

927
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: work cut out for them here. I think the option

928
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: is too much for Eastern. I don't have a ton

929
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: of confidence in this game, but I'm still gonna go

930
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: a little higher than most and say twenty six points

931
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: in favor of Southern.

932
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. I'm worried about Eastern Michigan's defense,

933
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: and I'm worried that you look at the teams that

934
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: they were able to beat to get to this point,

935
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: and there's not a lot of top sixty five seventy

936
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: seventy five the way of SMP plus teams here. So

937
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan appol eligible and that's a huge win. I'm

938
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: going Georgia Southern here, and it just so happened that

939
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: I think Lunsford is a little bit more buoyant than

940
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: Chris Creighton, who looks pretty jacked. Yeah yeah, Muscle is

941
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: denser than fat. Yeah yeah. So I'm gonna go with

942
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: a I'm go with the Eagles here.

943
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: They get a gift suite, a fossil watch, a Samsonite

944
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: rolling Duffel bag, a beanie nice a beanie, and a

945
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: big game football, which is a specific kind of football.

946
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're somebody.

947
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: I don't think i'm speaking out of turn here, but

948
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: you are somebody when given free bags or free luggage,

949
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: you are happy to take advantage in perpetuity. I think

950
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: you still use your National Championship backpack. I'm looking at

951
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: it right now here in the studio. I took in

952
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: a great job for US toting equipment here and there to.

953
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: Farga North Dakota the National Championship North Texas twenty fifteen

954
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: backpack that they gave us an Augio backpack. Maybe we'll

955
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: see some Aji here a little bit later on in

956
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: bowl season.

957
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: This feels like a premium Duffel tie.

958
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: It does got rolling wheels on it. That's not bad.

959
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: It looks I don't know what. There are various sizes.

960
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: Do you wear a watch? What a watch appeal to you?

961
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: Here? The fossil watches tend to be a little too

962
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: big for me, a little too much wash, yeah, yeah,

963
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: a little too much watch face for me. But I

964
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: think this is solid here, I genuinely do, and I

965
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: believe no I'm wrong. I was gonna mention a restaurant,

966
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: but that was Birmingham, not Montgomery. We'll move on, all right.

967
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: The RNL Carrier's New Orleans Bowl played at Mercedes Benz

968
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Stadium in New Orleans Saturday, nine pm ESPN, Middle Tennessee

969
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: against app State. App State is a seven point favorite.

970
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: The teams here, it just says gift, sweet and fossil watch.

971
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: Dan, mm hmm.

972
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: I would like a little bit more in the way

973
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: of details before I score this one again. Gift suite

974
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: doing a lot of heavy lifting.

975
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: I'll bet there's good stuff. It's in New Orleans. Maybe

976
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: we get some some beaded paraphernalia.

977
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Be careful, be careful with the beads on Bourbon Street.

978
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: Do you know Ty that there is a basically a

979
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: month long holiday in New Orleans in December where you

980
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: can go to basically any restaurant and there's like a

981
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: forty seven course to celebrate the holidays, and it looks fantastic.

982
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: And for that reason, I think I'm actually going app

983
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: State here. Okay, I think Tennessee's a little bit too close,

984
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: a little bit too familiar with New Orleans in December

985
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: where it's new to app State. I know we have

986
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: a coaching situation with Scott Saderfield leaving for Louisville, so

987
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be paid. I'm not gonna be picking

988
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: based on that. But yeah, I don't have a picture

989
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: of Brent stock still in front of me. I'm gonna

990
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: go app State here. I'm going to go against East

991
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: Coast Elliott with his you know, not having a coach whatever.

992
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee is another one of those teams that picked

993
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: up a lot of wins against some lowly teams or

994
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: as app State even without and I know Scott Saderfield

995
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: is now bringing both his offensive and defensive coordinators from

996
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: from to Louisville. I am going to go app State here.

997
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: I just think their quality is too high and I'm

998
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: going to do it with a good amount of confidence.

999
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: So the mismatchometer is in the red. Yeah, you're burying

1000
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: the hunter here. Yeah. That and look, I think that

1001
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: is the exception to rule too. Yeah, if you find

1002
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: that it's a mismatch despite turnover of any kind, you

1003
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: go with the better team. And I think I agree

1004
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: with you here Again, Saderfield's got Sadurfield headed to Louisville.

1005
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: It was unclear initially if he was going to stick

1006
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: around and maybe coach app State in the bowl game,

1007
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: but that's not going to happen here. Mark Ivy is

1008
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: going to take over as the interim coach. I agree

1009
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: with you. App State's the better team. They're favored by

1010
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown, They're Sophomore quarterback Zach Thomas has been ridiculous

1011
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: all season. Law He was named the Sun Belts Offensive

1012
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: Player of the year. I think app State is the

1013
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: better team. I Am not going to put a high

1014
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: level of confidence on this one, like not forty points,

1015
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: but I feel like app State is definitely gonna win

1016
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: this football game. So I'm gonna go thirty one points

1017
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: on the Mountaineers.

1018
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: Quick correction, it is Rick Stockstell. Brent is his son

1019
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: who is the quarterback. I'm going to stand by my

1020
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: app State pick.

1021
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: The Seruh Bundy Boca Ratone Bowl. They play this one

1022
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: in Boca at Howard Schnellenberger Field at FAU Stadium. It's

1023
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: on Tuesday on ESPN seven pm. We've got UAB Howab

1024
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: at ten and three versus the Northern Illinois Huskies at

1025
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: eight and five. Howab is a two and a half

1026
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: point favorite. The teams in this one get a gift suite,

1027
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: a draw string backpack, a beach towel in a.

1028
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Football well, you get to go to Boca. It's pretty

1029
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: nice down there, especially.

1030
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: Yes, draw string backpacks, in my experience, are usually pretty

1031
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: poorly made. Like that's a cheap gift.

1032
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't do a lot for me.

1033
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: You get that if you go to like a Microsoft conference. Okay,

1034
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: a draw string backpack you can do better. Cherub Bundy.

1035
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: What do you know what cherub Bundy is?

1036
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: No, what is cherubundy.

1037
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: Cherub Bundy is a tart cherry juice. Do you know

1038
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: what tart cherry juice is good for gout? I mean probably? Yeah,

1039
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: I tell you it's really good, and that makes sense

1040
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: that it would be. But I know it's also really

1041
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: good for muscle recovery, muscle relaxation, supposed to help you

1042
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: with your sleep a little bit. It's supposed to be

1043
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: very densely populated with good things for your body. Cher

1044
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: it my medical Yeah, I've never had cherub Bundy. I

1045
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: can't speak to that specific brand. I've just had it before,

1046
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: the juice itself. So I'm going to put a good

1047
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: amount of confidence in this conpool in U in NIU

1048
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: really Okay? Why I'm going with Northern Illinois. You look

1049
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: at the two schedules and you look at what they

1050
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: were and not able to do. And I had one

1051
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: of the secretly more impossible non conference schedules in America

1052
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: with Utah Florida State, and I want to say Iowa

1053
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 2: representing three of their five losses. They won the MAC.

1054
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: They had big wins over a couple of interesting teams,

1055
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: good teams like Buffalo in the championship game. Very strange

1056
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: to say so. In terms of that, I like Niu.

1057
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: I think UAB is just talent wise not necessarily on

1058
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 2: NIU's level. With that defense that should mostly shut down

1059
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: the Blazers. Okay, that's how I feel. Buoyancy wise, I

1060
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go NIU as well. This is going

1061
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: to be a super low scoring Bill Clark looks tense,

1062
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: super low scoring game because both defenses are pretty good. Yeah.

1063
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: The problem for me is that NIU's offense is genuinely bad,

1064
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: and I think they're more trouble scoring. I'm going on

1065
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: the Hoab train here, Dan, I am. I'm going to

1066
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: do it. Not a ton of confidence, so only ten

1067
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: confidence points.

1068
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 2: I think Rod Kerry floats, Yeah, he sounds like he does.

1069
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: I think Helot's yeah.

1070
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: Ten points. The d x L Frisco Bowl in Frisco,

1071
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: Texas at Toyota Stadium, I believe where they play the

1072
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: FCS National Championship correct Wednesday, eight pm, so probably around

1073
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: the time that we're going to be editing our show

1074
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: a week from today. It's San Diego State at seven

1075
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: and five it is the Ohio Bobcats at eight and

1076
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: four Ohio actually favored by three. They get a gift suite,

1077
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: a beanie cap, a coin, a pin, a big game football,

1078
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: and a Justin Cowboy hat.

1079
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 2: Dan, I've looked it up. You get Justin Cowboy hats

1080
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: on Amazon. Justin, I believe is a name brand. Yes, yeah,

1081
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: under what's Jared? He went to Jared, Oh, he's wearing

1082
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: just hat.

1083
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: That's right. Under what circumstances? Would you wear a cowboy hat?

1084
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: It won't wouldn't take much. Cowboy hats are great.

1085
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: Would you? What would it take for you to wear

1086
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: a hat out in Brooklyn? Just casually?

1087
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: Am I going somewhere? Am I going grocery shopping? Am

1088
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: I going to brunch? What's my mo here?

1089
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to know the scenario

1090
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: in which you would look around at baseball caps and

1091
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: beanies and whatever other headwear you have in your closet

1092
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: and decide that you're going to wear instead the Justin

1093
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: Cowboy hat out on the mean streets of Brooklyn.

1094
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a mood thing. I don't think it's

1095
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: a situation thing. Actually, the more I think about it,

1096
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: sometimes you're just in a cowboy hat mood. Yeah, I

1097
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it's that happened off. If you're going leather,

1098
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: often to you, it happens more than you'd think. It

1099
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: happens more than you'd think. And the justin hats look

1100
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: good enough. You have your beanie, you have your coin,

1101
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: you have a commemorative pin. I hope the gift suite

1102
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: is doing well in Frisco. By the way, do you

1103
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: know what DXL is?

1104
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: DXL isn't that the new version of big and Tall

1105
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: casual meal?

1106
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: It is? I think so D stands for a dude

1107
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: XL destination x L Okay. I clicked on this website

1108
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: and we've already we already have an apparel sponsor for

1109
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: this show. So all I'm going to say is, if

1110
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: you're a larger dude, seems pretty good. Seems pretty good.

1111
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: DXL Frisco Bowl, Get the cowboy hat, you get your

1112
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: your beanie, cap, your your coin, your pin. DXL, by

1113
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: the way, a great sponsor for a college bowl game.

1114
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: This would this would actually it would make sense that

1115
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: I don't see it here and maybe in previous years

1116
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: this was true of the Belk Bowl, where you get

1117
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: a shopping spree, you know, and they would always be

1118
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: like an unnamed amount of money or whatever to Belk.

1119
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: Do we have a DXL that we can get these

1120
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: offensive and defensive linemen to around Frisco. I'm looking up

1121
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: DXL locations. Unfortunately for US, ty we are not Excel people. No. Oh,

1122
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: they're all over Texas, Tye. The shops at Parclay in

1123
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: the Dallas area. Oh yeah, they're in Fort Worth. Oh yeah.

1124
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: Get yourself to a DXL if you're a larger human

1125
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: and you are playing in the DXL, which BAWL is US.

1126
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: The Frisco Bowl. Yeah, all right.

1127
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: So San Diego State, Ohio, San.

1128
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 1: Diego State, Ohio, Rocky Long, you know him. We've talked

1129
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: about him for SDSU. He's taken the Aztecs to a

1130
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: bowl game in all eight seasons that he's been there.

1131
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: The defense is there this year, but the offense really

1132
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: is that.

1133
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: They left the offense in twenty sixteen.

1134
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: The offense is taking a gap year. Yeah, and I

1135
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: think this presents it opening for an Ohio State now

1136
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: and I think this presents an opening for an Ohio team.

1137
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: It's been dynamic offensively.

1138
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: It's been battles, especially the back half of this year. Yeah.

1139
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last what five of their six games to

1140
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: close the season, they scored forty nine points at a

1141
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: minimum forty nine points.

1142
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, put it on.

1143
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: You could trast that with San Diego State, which lost

1144
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: four of their last five here. So you've got a

1145
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: real good clash of strength and weakness the Ohio offense,

1146
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: the ASTech defense, and then almost a battle of weaknesses

1147
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: between the San Diego State offense and the Ohio defense,

1148
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: which has also been pretty bad. I'm going to go

1149
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: Ohio here, Dan, what the hell?

1150
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like the quarterback situation a lot more with

1151
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: the Bobcats when Nathan Rourke has been able to do.

1152
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: I am going Ohio here. I'm putting a good amount

1153
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: of confidence in a San Diego State. Even with the

1154
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: road win at Boise State, which was crazy impressive, it's

1155
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: just been kind of a nightmare of the back half

1156
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: of the year, just losing close, losing big, whatever. It

1157
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: hasn't been great for the Aztecs. It's been a guys,

1158
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: you're right, a gap year, and Frank Solich is a survivor,

1159
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: and so I don't think he's going down buoyancy whatever

1160
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: is opposing him. Rocky long, little older. I'm going with

1161
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: Frank Solich in the conpool. So a healthy amount of

1162
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: confidence here in the Bobcat.

1163
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: Thirty eight points for me.

1164
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: Whoa, oh you manly a strategy? All right, this is

1165
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: your all fantasy Baseball closer strategy.

1166
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: Punt on the winds, load up on stage. Why not? Yeah,

1167
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: finally we're gonna do this one, even though technically it

1168
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: will come after one of our upcoming shows. But just

1169
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: to give everyone a little bit more runway to make

1170
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: these picks, we're not going to preview every game tonight.

1171
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: It is the Bad Boy Mower's gas Parilla Bowl. Yes,

1172
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you again, is it Gasparilla or Gasparilla?

1173
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: I really, you know, I would hope it would be Gasparia,

1174
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: but I think it is Gasparilla.

1175
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Gas Parilla? What is Gasparilla?

1176
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: We've talked about We've probably talked about this the entirety

1177
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: of this bowl existing. It's like a pirate themed something

1178
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: in Tampa parade, a celebration of some kind. So obviously

1179
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: you know about the Buccaneers in Tampa. There is that,

1180
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: you know, you have the ship and Raymond James, So

1181
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: I think it's along those lines.

1182
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm looking right now at bad Boy Mowers.

1183
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, as a new homeowner, I could

1184
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: get into this.

1185
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: You have a big yard.

1186
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: I could sink my teeth into a nice zero turn mower.

1187
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: You have handheld or a rider right now?

1188
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: I have a push mower right now? Self?

1189
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: You a push mower?

1190
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but these are rappy with it? I'm happy with it. Yeah.

1191
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: The riding mowers seem like you should only have them

1192
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: if you have a ton of lawn acres upon acres

1193
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: to mow, or walking is difficult. I say that as

1194
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: somebody who's never had a lawn, so maybe I don't

1195
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about.

1196
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: I could see the zero turn riding mower here, okay, and.

1197
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: What do you what are you walking away from this bowl?

1198
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: And if you're playing it says you're walking away with

1199
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: a gift suite, din.

1200
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: Come on, bad Boy Mowers. Yeah, I don't know what

1201
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: I would go for the gift suite. Once in the

1202
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: gift suite, do you go for the big ticket items

1203
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: or do you load up on quantity.

1204
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go big ticket items. Right.

1205
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: You just take a Bluetooth speaker and that's that.

1206
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: Take the thing that you're gonna use, not the thing

1207
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: that you think you might use.

1208
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: But you could also get a bunch and give them

1209
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: away as gifts, bunch of little things.

1210
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: You could. But you earned it if you're a college

1211
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: football but you earned it. You put your blood, sweat

1212
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: and tears into this team all year. You go to

1213
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: the bowl game. This should be about celebrating you and

1214
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: your team. So pick something that you personally would want.

1215
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: Fair. Yeah, I could see somebody's aunt wanting a bad

1216
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: boy mower's gasparilla bowle pull over.

1217
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I could all right. Well, Thursday, the twentieth of December,

1218
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: eight pm, ESPN, Marshall at eight and four, South Florida

1219
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: at seven and five. The Bulls are a two and

1220
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. I've got two notes here, both

1221
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: of which are on the South Florida side. Number one

1222
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: st and Gilbert, their offensive coordinator, left to be the

1223
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: head coach at McNeese State. I don't know if that matters, because,

1224
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: as you know, not all coaching turnover is created equal.

1225
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: The Bulls on offense really limped to the finish out there, and.

1226
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: Yes they did.

1227
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: If you read what people are saying, Bulls fans were

1228
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: not happy with the product that Gilbert was putting out

1229
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: there down the stretch. So maybe this is for the better.

1230
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Point two, Blake Barnett actually hurt his

1231
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: shoulder and his ankle and he missed two of the

1232
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: last three games at the end of the year, which

1233
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: certainly contributes a little bit to any offensive woes. It

1234
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: is unclear at time of recording if he's going to

1235
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: play in this Bowl game, and even if he plays,

1236
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: how effective he will be. Well that as the backdrop, Dan,

1237
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: what do you got?

1238
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: First of all, there is a density to Charlie Strong

1239
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: that I do not trust in the conpool. There just isn't. Also,

1240
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: USF is playing at home and they're only favored by

1241
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: two and a half. That's worrisome to me. So give

1242
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: me Doc and Marshall. Give me Doc and the Herd.

1243
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm ready.

1244
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go way, I'm gonna go Marshall as well.

1245
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: Because of the defense. Their offense is dreadful, very dreadful.

1246
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: It improved, it improved, Marshals.

1247
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: It improved, and it's still dreadful, which tells us something.

1248
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: But maybe they get a big player from Tyer Brady.

1249
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: Their playmaker out wide. Maybe it's just a stifling effort

1250
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,479
Speaker 1: from the defense, but there's enough uncertainty on the South

1251
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: Florida side. I agree with you. Playing the game at

1252
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: home and only being favored by two and a half

1253
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: against a team that has a pretty bad offense. That's

1254
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: a bit of an indicator. I am not very confident

1255
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: in this Marshall pick, mind you. So I'm gonna go

1256
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: Marshall with like, let's say twelve points.

1257
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say nine or ten.

1258
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: For me, I'm gonna go twelve.

1259
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: They definitely played better second half of it year, but

1260
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: this is more betting against the or betting, yeah, betting

1261
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: against the lack of momentum that USF has right now

1262
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: as a program. Defense takes a big step in the

1263
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: wrong direction this year. You know, there's unhappiness, you know

1264
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: with Sterling Gilbert as you mentioned, and the health at quarterback.

1265
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: It's all worrisome to me. So I'm going with stability here.

1266
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm going with.

1267
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: Marshall again my three rules. We're not going to be

1268
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: with you to make all of these picks. But as

1269
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: you make the picks first and foremost, well it up early.

1270
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Get all your confidence points out early or as many

1271
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: as you're willing to gamble early, get them out there.

1272
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: Number two consider the turnover right coaches leaving, are their

1273
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: injuries or the guys sitting out? Considerate, look to see

1274
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: if it's a mismatch, but at least considerate. And number

1275
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: three look to see motivation. Who wants to be there?

1276
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: Who doesn't?

1277
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: And number four buoyancy buoyancy right conpool buoyancy and I'm

1278
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: not loving Charlie Strong in a pool right now.

1279
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: Sad to say, well, there you go, there's your first

1280
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: batch of games here. Yeah on the verbal hope it

1281
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: helps again. Soliverble at gmail dot com emails so let

1282
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: us know what you think would be curious.

1283
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: So there are one, two, three, four five on Saturday. Yes,

1284
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: Saturday is a pretty fun day because we haven't had

1285
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: football in a little while on this level on the

1286
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: FBS and Power five levels, since we do have Arizona

1287
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: State playing, but everybody's going to be tuned in basically

1288
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: watching the same games at stretches four stretches. We'll have

1289
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: a lot of eyeballs on Arizona State Fresno State, which

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Speaker 2: is never true. We'll have a lot of eyeballs on

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Speaker 2: Georgia Southern Eastern Michigan, which would never be true. I

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Speaker 2: know there's Thursday night games and Wednesday night games, Tuesday

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Speaker 2: night games, but this is everybody on a Saturday in

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Speaker 2: front of a TV paying attention to teams that maybe

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Speaker 2: the casual fan doesn't always pay attention to. So there

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Speaker 2: is something that I still maintain is pretty cool about

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Speaker 2: this Opening Bowl Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we got Tuesday is UAB, Wednesday is

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Speaker 2: San Diego State, Ohio. Thursday Marshall USF. That's great.

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We'll be back again on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna preview more Bowl games. We'll probably i'm sure,

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Speaker 1: talk about some of the results of these games on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: But make sure if you haven't already to sign up

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Speaker 1: for the Bowl Pick and Pool, the Bowl Confidence Pool.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me at soliverble dot com slash Conpool, Daniel Conpool

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Speaker 1: con Pool. It's free to play. The winner's gonna get

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Speaker 1: T shirt. We'll hook you up, we promise. Okay. On

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Speaker 1: that note, Dan, and before we go any further, please

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Speaker 1: tell me some of the names of guys who have

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Speaker 1: decided they're going to go early to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's happening more and more, and it'll happen

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Speaker 2: after bowl games as well. I think you can have

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Speaker 2: until mid January. I want to say, is a cut

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Speaker 2: off point. Yeah, they've been changing it. Jared'stidham for Auburn.

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Speaker 2: He certainly considered it last year and heard his stock

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Speaker 2: coming back with his season, But we'll see how he's evaluated.

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Speaker 2: Greedy Williams at LSU considered to be one of, if

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Speaker 2: not the best cover corner in the nation. Noah fanse

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Speaker 2: Tight you know Iowa, mister incredible for Iowa. Did a

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Speaker 2: great job alongside t J. Hawkinson this year. Brian Burns

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Speaker 2: the end at Florida State, really good pass rusher, AJ Brown,

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Speaker 2: and just have agreaker in general. AJ Brown, who is

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Speaker 2: among the most talented receivers in the country, wasn't as

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Speaker 2: prolific this year with some inconsistencies with ole Miss in general.

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Speaker 2: DJ Metcalf, same story there with ole Miss and Greg Little.

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Speaker 2: A nice year and a nice enough year. I haven't

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Speaker 2: watched a lot of tape on left tackle for ole Miss,

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Speaker 2: but came in super highly regarded and obviously either as

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Speaker 2: done with his time at ole Miss or feels he

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Speaker 2: can make a splash in the NFL. So those are

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Speaker 2: some of the big ones that have happened in the last

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Speaker 2: few days. I saw FAU. I think it's Devin Singletary

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Speaker 2: who had a crazy good twenty seventeen. He declared as well.

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Speaker 2: So there are more names pay attention to. But it

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Speaker 2: keeps happening. It's going to just like every year. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be a completely new look year in college football.

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Speaker 2: I think the heater just kicked on in this room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah hear it, I do hear it in the back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. That was unexpected.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's a good time then to depart.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again to everyone for downloading the show. Please

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Speaker 1: do get on in that confidence pool. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Sunday to talk more college football, more bowl season,

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Speaker 1: more news, where coaching carousel. Who knows what will pop

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Speaker 1: up after we hit the stop button. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your week, Enjoy your weekend. My

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Speaker 1: name is Ty, his name is Dan. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: stay solid, peace,