1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey into 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: in every single story. Bits your boy Marcella's Whalley. Feeling good, 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: feeling spry. Because it's Monday. It's time to have a 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: fun day. Man, We're gonna have amazing show because I 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: am actually legally bound by my contract to say that 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: every single day of show. I'm playing with y'all. Man. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: But let's get it started with what's up with that dude? 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Yesterday was my three year old. Yeah, she's no longer 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: to my three year old birthday, Olivia, Happy birthday from 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: me or I know from you guys watching me. A 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: little mama is full of personality. Had an amazing party 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: at the spot called candy Land, where there were ice 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: cream cones bigger than me and the kids. There's one 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: of those spots where the family and the parents could 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: just sit up front and let the kids go safeguarded. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Everything was just oversized and fluffy, and she just had 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: a ball for like three hours. It was a pepper 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: pig party, pepper pig taking over this house. That look, man, 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: my family don't know, at least the kids don't know 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: that I like to eat pepper pigs. I'll be tearing 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: that baking up like every time y'all eat baking. Y'all 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: know that's pepper. Let me leave them kids, Alonge. They're 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: gonna learn now. When they're gonna learn, you're gonna learn 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: today one day. What else is going on? I'm leaving 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: forward right now because my back is on fire. No, Lie, 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: I got this weird car washed situation going on. Kane, 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Lie to y'all. I used to be one of those 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: guys that get the mobile detailer. You know, the mobile 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: service can't come over charge you forty fifty bucks even 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: though you know you can drive down the street and 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: do it for twenty bucks. Or you can stay your 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: answer at home and stop being lazy and save all 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: that money right just the water bill. But I've been 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: all three levels of that, and right now I'm kind 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: of caught between am I gonna go back to the 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: mobile or am I going down to the spot where 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: the homie hit it up for nineteen nine and nine? 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: But yesterday I went to the outdoor in nineteen ninety nine. 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: But I had to do the indoor vacuum in. And 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: let me tell you, when you lean forward and you 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: don't keep your abs tighten that gut just hanging on 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: the floor, you're back like huh, yeah, I'm back on 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: fire infern over here. So just because I want to 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: stay safe and stay healthy, I might have to give 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: up a couple more bucks for that. Other than that, 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: last night everybody went to sleep. My sister came over 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: with my niece shout out to og Heney lookin. They 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: they took him to Costafaga because my sister broke her foot. 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: She broke her foot at her fifty of birthday party dancing. Yeah, 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: you can't get more ghetto than that. That's my og 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: Heney loow, that is the most hood like. Her song 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: came on and she broke her foot, kept dancing through 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: it the whole night and obviously woke up the next day. 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Went to the doctor. They said, fracture and touring ligaments. 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Who knows that she would have stopped dancing but would 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: have happened, but she had to keep the party going. 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I get it. When I turned fifty, ain't nothing shutting 61 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: be down either. All right, let's get into this show 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: right now. Tremendous topics today. Let's start off with Kevin 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Durant and Charles Barkley. Yeah, Charles Barkley went on sixty minutes. 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about their sixty minutes beef, even though we 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: know this beef is way longer than sixty minutes. Charles 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: Barkley was on their feature Sunday Night, and he used 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: the time to talk and take shots that Kevin Durant again. 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Quote he's very sensitive, Barkley said, great player. He's part 69 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: of that generation who thinks he can't be criticized. He's 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: never looked in the mirror and says, man, is that 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: a fair criticism? Who you know? Durant? I don't know 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: what kind of Google alerts Durant gout, but he got 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the best in the business. That sucking. No. When somebody 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: got a name and they're talking about him, he immediately 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter. You know, he hit it. He said, quote, 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: this ain't getting tiring, Chuck. I'll never respect the words 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: that come out of your mouth. Fam, Just deal with it. 78 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay, now, Barkley before said Durant's a bus ride, 79 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: not a bus driver. He said that in twenty twenty two, 80 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: after that Celtics series, we get it. He also said 81 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: that Durrant seems like a miserable person. Man. You know 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: when somebody ends a sentence with man, they really feel it, 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: like man, you miserable? Man? Like he really empathetically Why 84 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: are you so miserable? I call him mister miserable. He's 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: never going to be happy. Everybody's giving him everything on 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: a silver platter. Oh, I don't know about that, Barkley. 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: You know that from former experience being a baller. Ain't 88 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: nobody giving us nothing. We only eat when we kill 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: that said. He also said he was the man in 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. They loved him, he owned the entire state. 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: He boats on them and wins back to back championships 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and he's still not happy. Then he goes to Brooklyn, 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: they give him everything he wants, and he's still miserable. 94 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Got a little point there. Durrant's business partner chimed in 95 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: as well. You know what he said, Chuck goes on 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: sixty minutes to talk more shit about k D because 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: he won't accept him calling him miserable, and he's sensitive 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: because he won't accept calling him miserable and a follower 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: KD is top ten. Ever, maybe respect this legend like 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: we did you Chuck. Oh, now now we're getting into it. Okay, 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: another layer. You know, it sounded like KD just was like, dog, 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: let it go. And then his business partner's like, yeah, 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: let it go because it never should have been a 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: thing because KD better than you. And that's what I 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: want to talk about. First of all, team Chuck versus 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: team KD on this one. I hate the pink side, 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: but you know, in this argument, don't seem like it's 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna end until somebody wins. It feels like so I'm 109 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: looking at this for a few different reasons. One is 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: he said a lot right there. How come Kevin Durant? 111 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Who is? But most people rankings top fifteen. I ain't 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: even gonna go top ten. Continue, but what top fifteen? 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to rank Kevin Durant. It seems like 114 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: all time he's ranked higher than even Charles Barkley. Correct. Okay, 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: now now only are you ranked higher? I saw this 116 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: ESPN one where he was fourteen, Chuck was twenty three, right, 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, am and you got two rings, add 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: two finals MVPs and Chuck has zero rings. Right, so 119 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: normal math, normal logic is this is not an argument? 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: What is KD In the conversation with Chuck about why 121 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: is Chuck taking shots at the multi champion and the 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: better player? Liability comes to mind? Right, How is this 123 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: even an argument that Chuck continuously can shoot at KD 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: without the quarter public opinion shutting Chucked down? I wonder 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: because y'all usually do that. Somebody take a shot and 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: somebody better than them. Oh, man, shut up, you're just 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: jealous or somebody who's a champion and better than them. Oh, 128 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: this ain't even a conversation, But then this one it is. Now. 129 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: I love both of these guys. You know, Kevin Durant's 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: my favorite player and Chuck is my favorite personality, So 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: respect for them both. But at the same time, it 132 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: just highlights to me some of the hypocrisy. I see 133 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: some contradictions in the way we're great eating these two 134 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: players or we're grading them because of the bias of likeability. 135 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk through that. In this situation, there used to 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: be this old mantra, you remember this where the media 137 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: has the last word. And I remember I grew up 138 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: in that era, it was like, you're almost scared Timid 139 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: to talk back to the media. Why because they held 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: the pen, they held the microphone, they were in the studio, 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: they would get the last word. But I'm noticing more 142 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: and more that these athletes like dog, we could keep 143 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: this rolling because ain't nobody's scared of you? And you 144 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: should have more respect for me because you used to 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: do what I did. And in this case KD really 146 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: want to say. His business partner said he batter than you. 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: What the hell are you talking about? And I'm like, damn, 148 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: shots fired. It's a weird world we're in right now, man, 149 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: And I think that never shut Up has a tremendous space. 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Not only do I always want to talk about where 151 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: sports intersects life, but I also want to keep the 152 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: same energy with the media as they do with the athletes. 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Whatever that means good, bad, or ugly, And so far 154 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: this argument pretty bad. It may get ugly. Lamar Jackson 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: said on Monday that he has requested a trade from 156 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens as the team quote has not been 157 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: interested in meeting my value in contract talks. Okay, that's 158 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: the headline, but the headline gets deeper. The star quarterback 159 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: made the announcement, saying he made the request on what's 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: today's day, twenty seventh, March second one. I'm like, Mark, 161 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: twenty five days ago, you did this, god dog, all 162 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: this conjecture and all this stuff about this contract in 163 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: the negotiations and where they stand. Oh, we have missed 164 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: the plot twists in this one twenty five days later, right, 165 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: And that's another thing. That's why I tell you all 166 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: them insiders, and I'm not taking shots at the individual. 167 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the mechanism of being an insider. I 168 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: told y'all they manipulate you know it all on one 169 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: contract another contract. You don't know jack did any insider 170 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: nailed that? On March second, Lamar Jackson requested the trade. No, 171 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: so always take what they say with a grain of salt. 172 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: But let's get back to this story. Quote. I love 173 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: the game of football. My dream is to help a 174 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: team win the Super Bowl, blah blah blah, adding that 175 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens fans are great, but I had to make 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: a business decision that was best for my family and I. 177 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: No matter how far I go, when my career takes me, 178 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: I'll continue to be close to my fans of Baltimore 179 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: block nature in the entire state of Maryland. You'll see 180 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: me again, Yeah, because you're on TV every week. You mean, okay, 181 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: after that or before that right around there? I don't 182 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: know exactly. Let me not lie. His Twitter went protected. 183 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh that means like, yo, if you ain't following me, 184 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: you ain't rocking with me. You ain't gonna see what 185 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I ain't can crunch you around here 186 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: whenever cast are saying, I only want to hear from 187 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: you and not y'all. WHOA. We're getting to him, man, 188 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: this is getting to him. Okay. Last September, you know, 189 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter and Chris Mortenson reported that Baltimore offered him 190 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three million dollars guaranteed, one hundred 191 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: seventy five million guarantee for injury, and two hundred million 192 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: in total guarantees if he was on the roster in 193 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Okay, that's more than calin mary All 194 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: that have been second to de Sean Watson. We get it. 195 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: This is the problem. Let's say the good, bad, and 196 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: ugly of what's going on right now. Everybody know he's 197 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna make plays like Lamar Jackson is one of those 198 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: guys you get some mud and the stick and say 199 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: go that way, and I'll go this way and score 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: to usdowns. It works right. Here's the thing, though, we 201 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: know that he's a winner, fourth most wins of any 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Super Bowl era. Guess who he's behind, 203 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady and Roger Stabout dub billionaire come on, dogs. 204 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: So we know he's a winner, but they are three 205 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: and nine in the last twelve games that he's missing 206 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: his absence, which shows his value. But here's what doesn't 207 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: show his value over the last two years thirty three 208 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: total touchdowns, twenty picks and has missed those games eleven games, 209 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: they say, including that playoff loss to the Bengals. Here's 210 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: why Lamar Jackson's in trouble right now. As I'm putting 211 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: on my former player hat, I'm putting on used to 212 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: represent myself in negotiations hat, I'm also just gonna look 213 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: at it from the outside as an analyst. Let's talk 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: about this. This is a deadly game of good cop 215 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: versus bad cop, and I want you guys to go 216 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: through the optics with me in every negotiation. It's standard 217 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: to have a good cop in a bad cop, right, 218 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: the athlete, good cop, play, do your thing, bad cop agent, 219 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: I gotta talk bad against these guys that you're gonna 220 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: have to go to battle with the executives the organization, 221 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: maybe even some of your he makes I may have 222 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: to call out to obviously give you more leverage in 223 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: these negotiations. Okay, So we know what the athlete's perspective 224 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: looks like. And for the organization in this situation, they 225 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: have two key figures. One is John Harball. He is 226 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: the good cop. He was interviewed today talking about it. Man, 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Lamar's my quarterback. Lamar's my guy. That's not my part 228 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: of the job in terms of contract negotiation. That's my dude, though. 229 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: But who's the bad cop? Eric da Costa? Right, anybody 230 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: raise your hand? Last time you've seen him talk like 231 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: explicitly about Lamar Jackson? He asked, But when the last time? 232 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: He can stay back in the cut and just take 233 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: those shots like a sniper, right, Because he's the bad cop. 234 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: You don't want him front and center. You want him 235 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: in the back of the bushes or rimmy on the 236 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: roof boom, right, and make those shots. Now, let's go 237 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: back to Lamar Jackson. Here's the problem. Who's the bad 238 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: cop for Lamar Jackson? Oh? Is his mother? Is it 239 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: his agent? His mother? Because if it is, when the 240 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: last time you've seen her front and center, you're dumb? 241 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: You haven't, right, So she's staying in the cut. But 242 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: is she taking those shots? I don't know. You want 243 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: to know why, I don't think she is, because Lamar 244 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: is taking the shots. Lamar is tweeting out, Lamar is 245 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: going through the details of his contract. Lamar is giving 246 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: us the beasts. Lamar's the one telling us he had 247 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: to request the trade. So his bad cop is actually 248 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: his good cop. The quarterback that made all of those 249 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: plays is also the guy who has to do the 250 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: dirty work in terms of a public contract negotiation. Yes, 251 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: that's what's happening here right now. Lamar Jackson is losing 252 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: this battle because he's not properly playing good cop versus 253 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: bad cop. Now, I am not blaming the fact that 254 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: he's representing himself as the reason why he's failing in 255 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: these negotiations according to what he desires. No, because we 256 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: know there's the guys who got paid his teammate ro 257 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Kwan Smith got a five year, hundred million dollars deal 258 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: representing himself negotiate an entire contract with that bad cop 259 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Eric da Costa. So I'm not saying the figures are bad. 260 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying you don't even have the proper structure to 261 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: play the game as the Ravens are playing the game. 262 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Ravens like dog, what are you doing? You're tweeting out everything. 263 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: You're now telling everybody, oh, retroactively twenty five days later, 264 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: that this is the issue. And now you're trying to 265 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: force our hands by saying you wanted out because we 266 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: don't respect your fair market value. When god, it's gonna 267 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: hurt because I nubbed me some Lamar Jackson when we said, 268 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: go out there and show us what's your worth. Here's 269 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: the problem. No one is called with a real offer. 270 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Why Because Lamar Jackson is not only gonna come with 271 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: a two hundred million dollar price tag, but two first rounders. 272 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: That's not collusion, y'all, as much as you want to 273 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: say it is. People out there like, we're not gonna 274 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: do the dirty word for the Ravens. They can match that. 275 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: And if they don't match that, who wants to give 276 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: up two first and two hundred plus million dollars for 277 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: a guy who's been hurt a little bit of late 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: and not exactly the same unanimous MVP. Which way is 279 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: up for my man, Lamar Jackson. One thing that needs 280 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to be tweeted out? What is your number? And what 281 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: is the Ravens number? Listen and we're gonna go there, 282 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: go there, right, No half pregnant in this conversation right now, 283 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: So it's a tough one. I'm looking at him and 284 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: that old adages come into my head. If you represent yourself, 285 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: you have a fool as a client. Boy. I hope 286 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: it's not true in this case, because it's other cases 287 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: like your teammate that it wasn't. But Lamar, right now, 288 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: you're down in the score trying to make some plays. Man. 289 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm no actor, but I know who Jonathan Majors is 290 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: because of late he's been in some major projects right 291 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: and he always I always catch those pictures and him 292 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: on the red carpet to step and repeat like every picture, 293 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: I swear, like dog. Have you went to a lot 294 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: of events and took the same pick or you went 295 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: to the one event and say, hey, look just put 296 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: that out there, y'all. Every time I look every picture 297 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: of the same dude, well that might have been the 298 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: mud shot picture. Let me stop, because man, this is 299 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: not a good story here, Courton. The TMZ actor Jonathan 300 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Majors was arrested on Saturday in New York for reportedly 301 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: assaulting a woman. He's been accused of strangulation, assault, and harassment. 302 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: The actors denied any wrong doing. Let's keep going. Let's 303 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: get the beats of this first, Courton tm Z law 304 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: enforcement says to alleged victim of accusing Jonathan Majors of assault, 305 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: it's girlfriend. We'll get back to that. The couple was 306 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: reportedly in a taxi when the argument started. They reportedly 307 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: got into an altercation after his girlfriend caught another woman 308 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: texting the actor's phone. Dog, you ain't learned the old trick. 309 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Every girl in your phone is your homeboy, so every 310 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: girl that texts you is Tom Bob Jonathan Stop, they say. 311 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: The matter escalator when his girlfriend tried to view the 312 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: messages on his phone and was met with a slap 313 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: from Major's wow. He then allegedly proceeded to put his 314 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: hands around her neck. Representative for Johnathon Major says he's 315 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: done nothing wrong. WHOA talk about opposites, talk about different 316 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: perspectives on this one. Okay, we saw him in the 317 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: US Army as of late. Right, well, they pulled those 318 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: down in the prudence of respecting these allegations, even though 319 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: they also said he's innocent to proven guilty. Make that 320 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: make sense, US Army, come on salute, all right? According 321 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: to all of this evidence that comes in now, witnesses 322 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: and testimony comes in that says the actors innocent, and 323 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: the woman also took back her accusation his girlfriend of 324 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: assault in written statements. What is going on with this story? 325 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Right here? A few takeaways? All right? It could be 326 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: as simple as something did have and like you heard 327 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: allegedly right he on his phone, he trying to hide it, 328 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: or he didn't have that foggy screen. You know some 329 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: people got that foggy screen where you look from the side, 330 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: you can't see nothing unless you square up on it. 331 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he don't have that. And every name is in 332 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: there saying Keysha, name is in there saying fine girl 333 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: from last night, like I don't know, but but his 334 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: girlfriend saw. Now his girlfriend's looking at it, like, um, 335 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: can I see that? Of course one, no invasion of privacy, 336 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: like doc, if you don't trust me, then what we're 337 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: doing here? But that's not the thing to say when 338 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: you're guilty in that moment, like you don't trust me? 339 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: But she right, like, so now you can't play that card, 340 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: and more likely she reaches forward and then he responds 341 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: if that's the way it went, if he's guilty, but 342 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: if he's innocent, like she retracted her statements and said, 343 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: then what was the commotion about if he didn't do anything. 344 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: They just argued, and they argue loudly and avertly, to 345 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: the point where they had to go to two different destinations. 346 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: And all of this incident comes off of an argument 347 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: just because he's famous. Maybe maybe not. Here's the thing 348 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to first start off with. We need to 349 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: stop saying that people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. 350 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: Stop that because we never act accordingly. We don't. We 351 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: say we do, and we don't. We go out there 352 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: and when we all go to the guilty part and 353 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: then try to bring it back to innocence, right, it's 354 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: very few of us who sit there and say, oh, 355 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: we're going to be neutral in this until our information 356 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: is in. You say you're one of them. I say 357 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. Guess what, the US Army is 358 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: not even one of them. Why do you pull the 359 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: ads if you presume he's innocent to guilty and retracted 360 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: statements from the lady, and there are bystanders, there are 361 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: witnesses that says he's innocent. So I'm just getting tired 362 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: of this disconnect between our words and our mantras and 363 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: our real actions. Oh, we're just gonna pull the ads 364 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: while we figure this house. I get it, it's big business. 365 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time, just say, look, if you 366 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: ever catch your allegation real or fake, we are not 367 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: rocking with you until we find out it was fake. Okay, 368 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: I get that. Now, let's also talk about the fact 369 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: that there's a dynamic right here when you pop, when 370 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: you bubble, and you got a girlfriend and I've been 371 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: here before, let's talk about that. You know. The joke 372 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: of it is like what you're doing with a girlfriend 373 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: right now, Like right now you are doing this. That 374 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: plane should have one seat, maybe multiple seats, but no 375 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: seat of siments if you get what I'm saying. Anybody 376 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: can sit anywhere, right, So what are you doing with 377 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. And I made the mistake too when I 378 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: was doing this guy girlfriend got engaged. Whoa you juggling? Bro, Like, 379 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: the whole world loves you, and this one woman that 380 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: you're still figuring out says she loves you. Now, the doubt, 381 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: the lack of understanding the fact she's not your wife. 382 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: Whatever that is you just met her or you know 383 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: them for a long time, but you still got some 384 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: boxes to check. Whatever that is is not gonna hold 385 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: up against all of this, because all of this is surface. 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: All of this is the most beautiful girls, the nicest 387 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: acting women, everybody just loving you, doing whatever they can 388 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: to get your attention. So in the moments of issue 389 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: over here, this looks even better and without an issue, 390 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: that looks amazing. Correct and it leads to problems. Okay, 391 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: So some of the problems that happened are like that 392 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I've been through that before. Who you texting? I'm like, 393 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: why you want to know? Like, but that's me. But 394 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: I had the leverage because I'm like, if you don't, 395 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: if we go any farther on this conversation, guess what, 396 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm a thing. You ain't gonna You're not ready for 397 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: this ride. You're not ready for this journey. You're not 398 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna trust me, even though being real shouldn't have trusted me. 399 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I was in them screets, seriously, So let's talk about 400 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: this one incident that happened with me, because this story, 401 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: I just want to talk because this could be laced 402 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: with either one he did it, two he didn't do 403 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: it and y'all made a big stink of nothing, or 404 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: three he did it and she recanted the statements because 405 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: she got to protect the relationship and all that's at 406 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: stake for him. I remember being in Buffalo and I 407 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: was dating a young lady who put her hands on 408 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: me right and kept hitting me. And I was like, wow, 409 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: I could obviously, I'm a man, I'm a football player, 410 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: big old black dude, comptent. I cannot do anything but 411 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: just sit there and take these shots. But then I 412 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: got smart. I said, it's not just these shots that 413 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: she's shooting at me, it's the fact that she could 414 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: say anything happened in this moment. And I left my 415 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: own house, my own bedroom. Left. Now, she didn't know 416 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: I left because she ran into the bathroom and while 417 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: she's in the bathroom, I run outside, walking outside Once 418 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: I get there, see my neighbors. They all looking at 419 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: the commotion and they all just shaking their head, looking like, 420 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: you know what they're thinking. Because I'm thinking. That's why 421 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm here now, because I know y'all thinking that. And 422 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: literally what saved me was her screaming out the window 423 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: in that moment, help somebody help please. He's upstairs heading 424 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: me Marsalis White, he help please. And literally I was 425 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: outside with my neighbors and all of them looked at her, 426 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: looked at me and said wow. Ask the police for 427 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: pulling up in that moment. A lot of ways is 428 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan major Stein could have played out. But just want 429 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: you guys to know, in these moments, man, when you popping, 430 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: be careful who you w because they may pop. Which 431 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: A fan hit me to this one. Boy. That's why 432 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: I tell y'all all the time. I'm in them comments, 433 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm creeping through them, and I'll let you guys know 434 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: I respect you no matter even if you got criticism 435 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: of me. Man, I take it all in. It's all good. 436 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: A fan said, hey, what you're gonna do. You're gonna 437 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: talk about you because you were talked about, And I 438 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: was like, what send me the leak seem me the link, 439 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: but I found it anyway. All right, let's talk about 440 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: this story. Stephen A. Smith recently appeared as a guest 441 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: on The Dan Lebotard Show, where he openly shared his 442 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: thought process for firing his former co host, Max Kellerman, 443 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: the highest paid on air personality at ESPN. Indicated that, 444 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: unlike his previous debate partner, Skip Bayless, Max's personality didn't 445 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: compliment his presentation on the show, to no fault of 446 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: his own. Here we go with the quotes. How do 447 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: you think Max feels about all of this? Asked Lebotard. 448 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: About what happened with you too? Here's Stephen Ay. I 449 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: have no clue, but what I would tell you is, 450 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm kind of sad in this regard. I don't want 451 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: anybody to assume that Max Kellerman doesn't work hard. Max 452 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Kellerman is a bad person. Max Kellerman is not somebody 453 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: anybody should want to work with. That's not what this 454 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: was about, answer Steven Nay. It was about the fact 455 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: that a debate show requires certain things that I believed 456 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: he did not bring to the table when it came 457 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: to sitting opposite of me. If his brother Marcellus Wiley 458 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: was sitting opposite to Max Kellerman. I'm quite sure not 459 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: only would they have had a successful show, but they 460 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: would have had a blast doing it because their personalities, 461 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: their presentation, their deliveries, etc. Worked for them, just like 462 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: skipping I worked for me, Max Kellerman and I did 463 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: not work for me. It was not a show that 464 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of for years to come. Whoa, 465 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: he said a mouthful and he kept their one hunting. 466 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: And I love this because this is gonna be an 467 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to enlighten all because I know all the principles, right. 468 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: I know stephen Ay, I know Labatar, I know Max obviously, 469 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: and I know me. You know I'm getting to learn myself. 470 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: But I know me. Why didn't it work? Well? Let 471 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: me enlighten you to who Max is? First? Max working 472 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: with Max, And I know Stephen Ay felt some of 473 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: this because I heard him say it that Max will 474 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: have black people wanting to pull your black card and 475 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: you're black. I'm telling y'all because that happened to me. Now, 476 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: it happened to me in jest, but it still was 477 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: happening where because Max had this old stick he was 478 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: from Watts and you know he's a former rapper, right, 479 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: So Max Jewish, former rapper ball headed from New York. 480 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: And let's just say Max's old life wasn't as above 481 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: board as his life is now. I don't want to 482 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: get my boy caught up. But Max, Max, his three 483 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: cred was actually real. Let's just leave it there. So 484 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: if you work with Max, he gonna know all the lingo. 485 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: He gonna keep it real. He gonna just do everything 486 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: that plays to him getting invited to the picnic. Right, 487 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: we know what it is. He gonna get invited to 488 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: the barbecue. And if you're not, if you're not understanding 489 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: that's coming, or that hits you and you take that emotionally, 490 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: you take that to heart. Oh you ain't gonna like Max. 491 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: And remember when to went on the show and said 492 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: that exact thing, and I think there was an avalanche 493 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: criticism towards Stephen, a sell out, kon Ah, Max is 494 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: blacker than you, all that kind of stuff, which I 495 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: totally totally hate and I totally don't understand where you're 496 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: coming from that. But I don't want to get off 497 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: topic point being Max puts that pressure on you, your 498 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: black co host, Let's just say that. Another thing is 499 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: Max is a high volume volume shooter. Max gonna get 500 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: his shots off, just like you're gonna get your shots off. 501 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: And two high volume shooters on a debate show, you 502 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: better have equal respect for each other, right because if 503 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: not one, are you gonna look at the other one 504 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: like a bro Kobe, you know, passed the rock. And 505 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: I think stephen A is probably looking at Max, passed 506 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: the rock, chill out, shut up, be you know, so 507 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I think that was a part of it. Max is 508 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: not a beta. Max is an out for just like 509 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: stephen A is an out for like those guys. You know, 510 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: they walk in the room, but they also got to 511 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: carry on and it's their ego. It's right there with them, 512 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: like they're like, yo, I'm here. And Max's hella smart 513 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: and doesn't suffer fools. And that's not about stephen Nay, 514 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: that's about topics. That's about things they talk about. Like 515 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: Max is not trying to go in there and do 516 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: small talk. If Max wants to talk about something, he 517 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it Encyclopedia version. He wants to 518 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: go deep page eight Wikipedia, like he wants to go 519 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: into the bibiography of it. Right, So that's just giving 520 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: you an overview of Max. Now, why Max and I 521 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: worked were simple. I would let Max drive where he 522 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: wanted to go. I've always been this type of co host, 523 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: like dog, I know what I can do, and I 524 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: know what I want to do, but I think the 525 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: fun is where you're going. And then either I'm gonna 526 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: ride with you and just enjoy the view and chime in, 527 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna use your words against you and choke 528 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: you out and then I'm gonna take the wheel and 529 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna give it back to you on the 530 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: next topic we ride again. And that's always been me, 531 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: like I can a new for wherever you go, but 532 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: I do allow you to steer. Go ahead, Bro, you 533 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna take me anywhere where I feel lost or 534 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: anywhere where I'm out of place. And that's been my gift. 535 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: And someone would say my curse because I'm not the 536 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: one walking in there saying we're doing this this way 537 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: and no, and I'm not binary like that. So I 538 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: work well with Max. When he brings that carry on, 539 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: he like, were your bags? I was like, right here, Donna, 540 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: just I'm just landing in flip f life. Let's go 541 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: and that's why we work together so well. Now Max 542 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: is not that interested in sparks and debate. He's not 543 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: more nuance. He wants to go right in the middle. 544 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: He wants to layer the conversation. He brings in an idea. 545 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I bring in an idea, original idea, original idea. We 546 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: layer it all something We got this onion making you 547 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: cry like damn, that was deep. That's what he ideally 548 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: wants to do. Now we know why Skip and stephen 549 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: A worked as well. Let's be real about it because 550 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: skips his takes are bold and they're obvious because he 551 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: is so clear about his stands. He's a master at 552 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: his craft. So you know exactly where he stands, right, 553 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: and that's clear, then you know he's gonna be reliable 554 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: to that stands even if evidence changes. Skip is gonna 555 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: stick to that. And it's more extreme. Correct, Let's be real. 556 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: I look at it like this, Skip is what a 557 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: coloring book looks like when you buy it from the 558 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: grocery store wherever you buy your coloring books. He's that 559 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: bold outline. You see it, you see the shape, you 560 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: see what they're designing. And then stephen Ay is coming 561 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: in not only with that journalistic integrity, but he's coming 562 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: in with that entertainment factor that second to none, that 563 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: entertainment value. So stephen A is the crayon color, coloring 564 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: it in, giving it life, giving it vibrance, making it 565 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: pop off the page. Where Skip is that boldness, right, 566 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: And they both are bold. I'm not saying one is 567 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: the other, one is not the other in extreme, but 568 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: that's how they messed so well together. Reliable extreme bold 569 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: takes with life and entertainment value second and none. Max 570 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: and I we're just rolling, But boy, we're rolling somewhere. 571 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: You like Dog. They went there, they went there, they 572 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: went everywhere. So stephen A was dead on in terms 573 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: of why we would work together. But then they wouldn't 574 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: work together because why now you got some guy who's entertaining, 575 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: who could give it to you and punch you. Stephen A. 576 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: But in Max is like Dog, I just kind of 577 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: want to just go on this journey, not the destination. 578 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 1: And that's why they didn't work. If you really wanted 579 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: to just overview this, if you really wanted to gloss 580 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: over and exaggerate, I think that's why they didn't work. 581 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: Now I look at this situation too, reading this and 582 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: listening to the podcasts as no shots taken at Max 583 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: killer man. Now, I think people need to understand this Stephen. 584 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: They had the leverage, he had the power, and in 585 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: that power moment, he wanted something different so he didn't 586 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: lose his power. And I salute him because he actually 587 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: went to the bosses and told him straight up, that's 588 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: what he says. I take him at his word, and 589 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Max landed on his feet. Now, I went through a 590 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: similar situation. It wasn't as clear and concise with I 591 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: Chow and I, but we went through a similar situation. 592 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: I Chow wanted his own show right and that show 593 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: didn't include me, and I knew that from Hello. That 594 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: happened like a few weeks into us working together. I 595 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: cho didn't want Uncle Jimmy on the show. Y'all remember 596 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Uncle Jimmy, because that was a carryover from Whitlock, and 597 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. I couldn't fight for Uncle Jimmy because, frankly, 598 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: Uncle Jimmy outlasted his role with Whitlock. Whitlock created Uncle 599 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy and Darnell, and then when the exacts were like, yeah, 600 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: well Whitlock's gone, why are they still here? I didn't 601 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: have a strong enough argument. Even though I put up 602 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: a fight, I didn't have a strong enough argument. All 603 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: of that had to go, all right, But what I 604 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: want it it's what he has now to a point, 605 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: what I wanted is what I have now. But I 606 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: wanted it on the network. But I knew that this 607 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: is not their business model. This is not narrow sports, 608 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: this is not like Stephen. They even mentioned this, and 609 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: I love them for this. ESPN has a no politics rule, 610 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: even though it seems like they leak a lot on 611 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: the air, It's a no politics rule. Well, I wanted 612 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: to get into politics. I wanted to get into wider 613 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: than sports conversations, and that's what I'm doing on this show. 614 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: So I didn't fit the business model of FS one. 615 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: I almost was able to force it in there with 616 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: first things first in my mind and concept, but then 617 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: the travel was just too much, y'all. I got too 618 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: many little kids. I gotta stay still, blah blah blah. 619 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: So there were restrictions. As Stephen, they talked about maybe 620 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: on his next first take contract, there are restrictions. That's said. 621 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we know that everyone 622 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: could talk about these situations without them always being shots 623 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: at each other. Stephen A can say Max and I 624 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: water and oil skipping I, oh man, that's butter on 625 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: that toast. But Max and I work well together. I 626 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: don't know about me and skipping. Me and stephen A. 627 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: That's been so long. But I just ride with cass 628 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: and just go where they gotta go, and then I 629 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: get mine off. So it's been amazing to watch how 630 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: now the media is starting to talk about the media right, 631 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: and the media is realizing that everything is going digital 632 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: and linear. Cable looks one way, and obviously what I'm 633 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: doing and what even stephen A and Lebertard are doing 634 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: is looking like a different animal. It's fun to be 635 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: out here, I just tell you that. And it was 636 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: good to hear my name in a glowing term, but 637 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: at the same time in a real way, like he 638 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: understands who he was working with, he understand ends what 639 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: he was going through. He understood that in the moment 640 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: he said, I'm not talking past tense. I'm still saying 641 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: today I couldn't work well with Max keller Man. So 642 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: salute to stephen A taking it and keeping it real, 643 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: and salute to my dog Max, who still got two 644 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: shows on ESPN, still rocking on? All right, y'all, y'all 645 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: know how we end every show? We ended what oh 646 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: wiley ism, wily ism, Marcella's wily He Don't take advice 647 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: is great advice. Don't take advice is great advice. Yeah, 648 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: let me bring it home. As the last topic was suggesting, 649 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: sometimes people were people were telling me, dog, don't go 650 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: out on your own, keep that cheek, that check, you know, 651 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: keep that safe job. And I was like, at what costs? Man? Like? 652 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: Can I be me? Can I flex? Can I get 653 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: all my muscles working and activating at one time to 654 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: see how far I can go with this one? Am 655 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: I gonna roll the dice on myself? You know? Don't 656 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: take advice is great advice. I remember when I was 657 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: going to Columbia and Rest in peace to my mother 658 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: who did not want me to go to Columbia, and 659 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: she said, you are not going. You should not go 660 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: over my dad body like she was just like too far? Why? 661 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: And I think she has some concerns about me going 662 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: pro as well that she didn't really articulate. But I 663 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'm a white so adamant, what's wrong 664 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: with Columbia. Nah, she would say those same reasons. I 665 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry, Mama, I gotta go. I love 666 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: you and I appreciate your advice, but sometimes not taking 667 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: advice it's great advice. And I think that worked out 668 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: for me. So sometimes you guys, listen to the wisdom 669 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: of the crowd, listen to those in your social circle, 670 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: respective for who they are, but don't take advice. It's 671 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: great advice. All right. That's gonna do it for More too. 672 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: It checked the show notes for all the information on 673 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: our topics to day. You want to keep the conversation going, 674 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: how know you do? Let's talk find me on all 675 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: socials at Marcellus Wally. That's right. More to It is 676 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: a production of Dan Patrick Productions, Dad Dude Entertainment and 677 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: Workhouse Media Shows executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcel S. Wally. 678 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: That's me, That dude was you, Paul Anderson and Nick Panella. 679 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: Marcell Swally, Thanks for listening. Thanks for those reviews. Keep 680 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: them coming, man, I read every single one of them 681 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: reviews all what I got in one hundred and eighty 682 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: two of them. Something crazy. Um, I love y'all. Man. 683 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: There's more coming from More to it talk to you. 684 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,479 Speaker 1: Hella soon got