1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: If I am six forty, you're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: App online KFI AM six forty dot com forward slash listen. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: And yes, I think that this is still the John 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: and Ken Show, even though Ken has retired, and it 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: will be on Monday when I also come back from 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: one to four pm. And then on Tuesday, Oh, we 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: roll up the curtain on the brand new John Cobbolt Show. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: So I'm here to kind of sprinkle the last dirt 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: over the remains of the John and Ken Show. Oh, 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: I know that's probably a downer way of announcing that. Huh. Hey, 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark, you just did a story about the Christmas trees. Yeah, 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: and we're at a we're at about the the natural 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: Christmas tree versus the artificial Christmas tree. We've always been 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: natural Christmas tree people my whole life, but we're now 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: having the conversation. We're really having a serious conversation about 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: as a time to go plastic. And here's why, because 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: last year we got tree shamed by an eight year old. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: We went to a tree lot. We did. We went 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: to a tree lot and after having a coronary, after 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: seeing how much they were charging for the natchal it's 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: like three hundred and forty dollars, although the artificial ones 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: are pretty expensive too. Yeah, but then you can, you know, 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: roll it over year after year. This thing was going 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: to be in the house for tops ten days. Because 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm a big January one, everything goes away, everything gets 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: packed up, the lights are down, everything's gun. It's in 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: the car to go to storage on January second. So 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: by a tree, a little kind of Charlie Brown Christmas tree, 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: kind of bear. It was a rotten Christmas tree, was 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: small and rotten, and it was one hundred and twenty 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: stinking dollars. So I'm carrying it to the car by 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: the way, one hand easy. And as we're walking out 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: of a family a little Norman Rockwall family comes in 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: with the you know, cherry cheeked blonde girl and she says, look, daddy, 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: look that little tiny tree. And I turn around. I 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: go one hundred and twenty dollars, sweetheart, one hundred and 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: twenty dollars rich. Yeah, you know, when I was a kid, 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: I was I had an uncle was actually my mother's uncle, 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: who sold Christmas trees, and my brother and I we 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: worked on the Christmas tree lot, and it was a 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: real life lesson. I'm telling you this is like fifty 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: five years ago, some staggering, shocking amount of time ago. 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: And we used to work on the Christmas tree lot 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: with him. And the first thing we did was he 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: gave us a drill, like one of those ones you 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: crank with your hand, and we'd drill holes in the 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: trunks of the of the bear sections of the trees, 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: and then with a glue pot, we would dip branches 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: into the glue pot and fill in the bear spots 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: so that he could he could sell these trees, you know, 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: for top price. So we were basically it was like 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Roguain for Christmas trees, is really what it was, like 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: a hair transplant. And then the worst tree, an unsalvageable tree, 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: he says, let me show you something. He put a 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: soul tag on it, and he put it off on 57 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: the side, all by itself, and he says, watch, we're 58 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: gonna sell that one first. And so my brother and 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: I will watch it. And sure enough, some guy comes in. 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: He walks around the lot, he's got his family over there, 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 2: and then he comes up to Harry, Oh, my uncle 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: Harry says, hey, Harry, how much for that one? He goes, 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: I can't, it's sold. He slips him a five dollar bill. 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: Harry walks over and makes a big scene at a 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: snap in the sole tag off and then you know 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: it gives us the headshake to tie it to the 67 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: roof of the car. And when the guy leaves, he says, 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: people don't like to make decisions, and somebody had already 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: decided that was worth having. That's crazy. It's it's kind 70 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: of human nature, isn't. It's kind of fascinating. That is 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: all right? 72 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Now? 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Somebody explained, am I Typhoid McIntire that I've wiped out 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: kfi's lineup because I was here yesterday, Handle wasn't. Conway 75 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: was obviously, Ken retired to avoid running into me. John 76 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: was out, all right, And now I didn't see Bertolucci 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: either for that matter. Today, Gary and Shannon are out, 78 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: Conway's still out, John's still out. Uh, I don't even 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: know will be Mo is out? Is it me? I mean, 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: just tell me, just tell me not to fill in, 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: all right, save you a lot of hassle. Anyway. I 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: am happy to be here, and we're gonna be here 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: till four o'clock. There's a lot to talk about, including 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: Rono Tani. Watch because word is now bubbling through the 85 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: baseball universe that he's going to make a decision today. 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: Later on we'll talk with David Vesse, mister Dodgers, and 87 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: we got a lot to talk about, including goodbye newspapers. 88 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: And this is an interesting phenomenon because he got half 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: the country. He's actually rooting for newspapers to fault. Uh 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk with Bob Brolwich about that in 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: just a bit, But I wanted to start with this story. 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: Dan Walters wrote about it, John and Ken I actually 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: we're talking about on the last show that the California 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: budget is worse than my domestic family budget. It is 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: a disaster, and it's probably worse than your family budget too. 96 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: And this comes just a couple of days. What eighteen 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: hours after Gavin Newsom was on a television debating with 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis and he was boasting about California has no peers, 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: California dominates, it's the biggest economy, it's booming, it leads 100 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: the nation, and as it turns out, the Legislative Analysts 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: Office eighteen hours later says not so fast. As a 102 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 2: matter of fact, the November income tax filing deadline, seven 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: months later than the original date, passed and tax receipts 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty two could finally be counted. And they 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: found out that we're twenty six billion under projections, and 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: quote our updated revenue outlook anticipates collections to come in 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: fifty eight billion below the Budget Act projections across the 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty two, twenty twenty three to twenty twenty 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: four and twenty five budgets. So this is a staggering 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: budget deficit, and we have a thirty billion dollar rainy 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: Dave fond and this will swallow that and still leave 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: the state of California over a two year period in 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: the forty to fifty billion dollar range in the red. Now, look, 114 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: I got to BA in English from Stonehill College in Massachusetts. 115 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to take the checkbook out of the house, 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: And the fact that I even still have a checkbook 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: tells you where I'm at, okay, because I know the 118 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: rest of you aren't using them. So I am the 119 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: last person in the world to do higher math on 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: budgets and things like that. But even I can figure 121 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: out that we got a problem here because this happens 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: again and again and again. Our tax intake in the 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: state of California is enormous. We're bringing in huge amounts 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: of money. The problem is, once again, we are spending 125 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: faster than we are even taking in the huge amounts 126 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: of money. And when we have good days, really good times, 127 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: because we are so dependent on the tap wage earners 128 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: for the revenues for the State of California, because we 129 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: are we are feeding from the top of the food 130 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: chain economically. When the markets are tough, and we had 131 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: some market dips in twenty twenty two, particularly what happens 132 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: is with capital gains go down and the State of 133 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: California all of a sudden has these giant budget holes. Unfortunately, 134 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: they passed bills up in Sacramento spending appropriations that were 135 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: going forward as if the good times would never end. 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: And we never learned from this, We never ever learned 137 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: from this, and our budget, by the way, the budget 138 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: for California is an astronomer's number. The budget is three 139 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: hundred and ten point eight billion dollars three hundred and 140 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: ten that's what a third of a trillion dollars. It 141 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: consists of two hundred and twenty five point nine billion 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: from the general fund, eighty two billion from special funds, 143 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: and two point nine billion from bond funds. And the 144 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: irony with that is that we have a budget of 145 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: three hundred and ten point eight billion dollars and nobody's happy. 146 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: It's stunning, because I got to feel like if I 147 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: went nuts and I took all my credit cards and 148 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: I went to the mall and I just, you know, 149 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: caution be damned and just went on a spending binge, 150 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: you know, go down to the Porsche dealership and then 151 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: just go buy anything you can think of. I would 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: think that, all right, I know that the piper must 153 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: be paid, but at least they'll have a good time 154 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: in the process. We spend three hundred and ten billion 155 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: dollars and everybody's complaining that there's not enough money. The 156 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: roads aren't fixed, the sidewalks aren't fixed. The schools don't 157 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: have enough money, we don't enough money to clean the environment, 158 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: we can't do anything about the homeless, and on and 159 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: on and on it cost. So I don't know what 160 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: we're getting for a three hundred and ten billion dollars 161 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: or how it's being spent. But once again, we know 162 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: they didn't budget proper, and now there's gonna be cuts 163 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: and draconian cuts. The schools are gonna feel it. Everybody's 164 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: gonna feel it. Everybody's gonna be pointing fingers again, and 165 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: we'll do the same thing again. The economy will improve, 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: money will start flowing in, and I guarantee you somebody 167 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: sitting behind this microphone in the near future will be 168 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: having the exact same conversation with you again, because it's 169 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: the twentieth time I've had this conversation. All right, it's 170 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: one sixteen lots to talk about, including are you too 171 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: old to have a cat? I'm mcatarre in for John 172 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: and Kent. 173 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 174 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 175 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: Mgutar in for John and Ken and The John Cobbles 176 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: Show debuts on Tuesday, and I will be back on Monday, 177 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: assuming I haven't lost my mind because the cats at 178 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: home have driven me crazy. You know, the crazy cat lady. 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: You hear the phrase crazy cat lady? Well, apparently a 180 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: study published in Queensland the University of Queensland, Australia, actually 181 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Chris Merrill and Leilah talking about this earlier today infa 182 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: Gary and Shannon that the concept of a crazy cat lady. 183 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: Apparently there's a parasite that cats carry. They can literally 184 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: cause schizophrenia. That's what the science says. I have two 185 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: cats right now, and two is the maximum number. In fact, 186 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: I've talked to Timmy Conway about this many times. The 187 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: third cat is the gateway cat. If you cross the 188 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: line from two to three cats, there's nothing stopping you 189 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: from ending up with forty eight. The gateway cat. 190 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: It is. 191 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: It's true, it's the gateway cat. If you go for three, 192 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: it's Katie bar the door. You're just going to be 193 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: one of those people that's having dump trucks put kitty 194 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: litter in the driveway and you need a coal shovel 195 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: to bring it in to the litter boxes. But I've 196 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: got two, and I'm pretty rigorous about keeping it at 197 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: that number. But here's the deal. We lost one about 198 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: it a little over a year ago, and my wife 199 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: and I were talking about it and say, considering our 200 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: age and considering the fact that we know we're going 201 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: to replace the cat that just died. Instead of waiting 202 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: an appropriate amount of time, we just went out and 203 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: got one, all right, We just got to replacement Lenny 204 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: the cat. It's an orange cat. But then when I 205 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: was driving home with the cat from the rescue place, 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: and by the way, we didn't rescue the cat. We 207 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: went and bought the cat from these people who had it. 208 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: All right, it's not like I had to put on 209 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: gloves and boots or climb a tree or something to 210 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: rescue the cat, go into a burning building and come 211 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: out with the cat. I just went down and bought it. 212 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I got the cat. And then I started 213 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: doing the math, and I realized this cat could easily 214 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: live fifteen years. That's a pretty common phenomenon for cats, 215 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: especially an indoor cat. I got coyotes out where I live, 216 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: so we lost one once. No more cats going outside. 217 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: So I started doing the math. Though, So if this 218 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: cat lives fifteen years, I'll be eighty. I'll be eighty 219 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: when the cat is fifteen. Is that this could be 220 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: my death cat. This could be the last one. And 221 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: by the way, anybody who's lived with cats know that 222 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: they periodically try to kill you anyway. You know, you're 223 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: walking across the tile floor somewhere and they come running 224 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: right between your legs and you trip over them. And 225 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't think it's an accident. I think they're out 226 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: to get us. But that aside. Here's what I found out. 227 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Cut to. 228 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: We're having dinner with some friends, one of whom had 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: just turned eighty. And by the way, he's in better 230 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: shape than I am, and the odds are he's going 231 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: to outlive me. But they went to get a cat, 232 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: and the rescue wouldn't give it to them. They wouldn't 233 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: give them the cat because they're too old. Now they 234 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: don't want to say that, but I'm hearing this from 235 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: people all over the place that some of these rescues 236 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: they look at the potential adoptee and they say, I 237 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: don't know, you know what happens if they go down, 238 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: who's going to take care of the cat? Because because, oh, 239 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: my kids will take care of the cat. But they're 240 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: not vetting the kids. So now, like the old days 241 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: of you know, the blacklisted Hollywood riders, you got to 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: get a beard to go in in front for you 243 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: to get a pussy cat or to get a puppy 244 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: because you got too many. I mean, I mean, this 245 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: town has always been tough to get olden because of Hollywood. 246 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: You know, God forbid you have a gray hair or 247 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: those hair or something like that. You're done. That's what 248 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: radio is for. By the way, you can hang out 249 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: here forever. But you know, if you're in the movies 250 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: or television, then you got to get to moisturize. But 251 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: now apparently you have to have plastic surgery and some 252 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: boatox in order to go to the animal rescue to 253 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: get a cat. And you know, I know that this 254 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: is a grim way of putting it, but I had 255 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: a police officer, an LAPD officer, tell me this on 256 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: the air a bunch of years ago, and I just 257 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: choose to believe it, even though it could be a 258 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth sequel, that if you do go down, 259 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: if you should go, especially if your own dogs. But 260 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: if you go down and you live alone and you're 261 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: there for a while, you know, and you got a 262 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: dog and no one's coming around, you live alone, you're 263 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: one of those people and no one's looking after you, 264 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: and there's certainly nobody coming to look after the dog. 265 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: The dog, you know, will nudge you for a couple 266 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: of days, and then on day three or four, the 267 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: exposed portions of the flash are now just a buffet 268 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: you basically, you basically become the final meal. And the 269 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: police officer told me that they occasionally find heads in 270 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: the other room. I know that they look at you 271 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: with those big, literally puppy dog eyes, and they're adorable. 272 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, after three or four days with 273 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: no food, you start to look like those old cartoons 274 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: where the fat guys the hamburger and the skinny guys 275 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: the hot dog, and they're chasing themselves. They're chasing each 276 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: other around the palm Tree Island. That's what your dog does. 277 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: They'll turn on you anyway. Just put that on the 278 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: list of age discrimination, of all the places that and 279 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: you would think we just had. The story was a 280 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: big story about how the animal shelters are are euthanizing 281 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: all of these dogs that they're overflowing with pets, cats 282 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: and dogs that need adoption, and the rescues are saying, no, sorry, 283 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: you're a little too old for this. It's like your 284 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: minudo and you hit puberty. You got to get a 285 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: new group to sing in. Ladies and gentlemen coming up. 286 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: The newspapers are dying. That's not exactly a secret. But 287 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: what is the world going to be like when the 288 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: last one goes away? We may maybe not me, but 289 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: you may live to see that day. Your kids will 290 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: live to see that day. We'll talk about that just 291 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: a bit. But also I want to invite you tomorrow, Saturday, 292 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: December ninth, right there on Ventura Boulevard in Woodland Hills. 293 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: I will be at David K Books Kaye David K 294 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: Books on Ventura Boulevard between Shoop and Fallbrook. You can't miss. 295 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: It's got a big yellow sign. It's on the north 296 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: side of the street. I'm going to be signing copies 297 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: of my book, Frank Shadow, and I would love to 298 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: say hello to you if you want to come on 299 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: out and say hello. 300 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kfi 301 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,359 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 302 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: Online at KFIM six forty dot com forward slash Listen 303 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: and coming up just a bit, we're going to get 304 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: into that the arrest that's bizarre and possibly a hate 305 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: field attack of a grandfather in Calabasas who was punched 306 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: while walking with his grandchild in a stroller by a 307 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: guy who may have done this before. And I'll tell 308 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: you what employees don't want from their bosses at the 309 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: Christmas party. So we'll get into all that in just 310 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: a bit. But in the Los Angeles Daily News, Orange 311 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: County Register, etc. Et cetera, the Southern California News Group, 312 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: which I write, by the way, have been writing a 313 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: column for for many years, there was an op ed 314 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: piece by Bob Rawwich about print newspapers dying off and 315 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: what happens to our democracy when the papers are gone? 316 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: And Bob is also for thirty years he was a 317 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: senior editor in the Newspaper Racket, the former president of 318 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: the California Society of Newspaper Editors, and the author of 319 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: a reporter's journey, One Happy Life. It's a pleasure to 320 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: welcome to the show, Bob Rawich. Bob, how are you. 321 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. Thank you for having me today. 322 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 323 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: Now. 324 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: I know that you and I are kind of dinosaurs, 325 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: because I get three newspapers delivered to the house every day. 326 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: I like the print newspaper. I use all the online stuff, 327 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: but I like thumbing through the print newspaper. And frequently 328 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: in this racket, the story that becomes the best segment 329 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: in talk radio is the little one that doesn't show 330 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: up obviously in a Google search, and it's just something 331 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: that catches your eye. But good luck finding somebody under 332 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: fifty five who even knows what a print newspaper is 333 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: these days. And the demographic shift is profoundly significant here. 334 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: Well, it is the average age of the newspaper readers 335 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: is now between about fifty five and sixty years old, 336 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: which effectively means that their subscriber base is dying off 337 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: literally every day, with older people passing away but not 338 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: younger people coming up to replace them. 339 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: And the attrition of the newspapers themselves is staggering. In 340 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: your piece, he wrote, since to two thousand and five, 341 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: twenty nine hundred daily and weekly newspapers have closed. One 342 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty closed last year, averaging three a week. 343 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: There's been fifty seven percent cuts in newsroom employees across 344 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: the industry. Eighteen hundred communities, including five hundred and twenty 345 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: four in California that used to have at least one 346 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: newspaper now have none, and the rural and suburban newspapers 347 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: have taken the biggest hit. So here's the question. The 348 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: question is where do people get their news? If this 349 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: trend continues and it's likely to where do people get 350 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: the news? 351 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there's any question that the trend 352 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: is going to continue, and the pace will probably speed 353 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: up up the fact that most people, if they're getting 354 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: news at all, are getting them through social media platforms, Facebook, 355 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Apple News, whatever the social medium is that that they're using. 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: And the biggest problem that I have with that. As 357 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: much as like you, I loved the newspaper career. It 358 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: was almost twenty nine years at the La Times as 359 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: a reporter and editor, but people who read newspapers typically 360 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: spend twenty minutes or so with them. People who are 361 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: reading even the digital versions of newspapers are only spending 362 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: two or three minutes a day and sometimes no more 363 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: than thirty seconds to a minute on a story. So 364 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: they're really getting very few stories in general, and no 365 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: real depth. And my concern is your opening remind works 366 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: alluded to, is the impact that that has on democracy. 367 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: The article made clear there have been various reputable studies 368 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: that have shown as newspapers have died or vanished, the 369 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: amount of social engagement that people have in their community 370 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: drops dramatically, whether it's participation in charitable groups, community groups 371 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. There was one particular study that 372 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: Duke University conducted in which they said the local coverage 373 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: of politics was down fifty six percent in the newspapers 374 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: that they studied, school board news was down thirty three percent. 375 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: In that out of sixteen thousand stories they're analyzed, only 376 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: about seventeen percent were about local news. And that's a 377 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: lot of percentages. But the bottom line is the average citizen, uh, 378 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: not even citizen. Every resident, the average residence is more 379 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: and more ill informed about what's going on in their 380 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: community's life. That has an impact on who they vote for, 381 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: but that matter whether they vote at all, and that 382 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: deeply concerns me. 383 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Bob Rawich, his book is called uh, it's called A 384 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: Reporter's Journey, One Happy Life. 385 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: Uh. 386 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: I want to go back to the social media concept 387 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: because I've had this conversation with a lot of people 388 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: and it's I don't understand why people don't understand. Don't 389 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: don't get how self defeating this is. You talk to 390 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: people say, well, I don't need the paper, forget about 391 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: the print edition, and they don't need the online edition 392 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: because I get my news online. I get my news 393 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: from social media. But when you but social media gets 394 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: the news from the newspaper. If you look at all 395 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: of those links on Facebook or on x whatever, they're 396 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: whatever a Elon Musk is calling it this week or 397 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: anyplace else the things are posted, it's all newspaper. It's 398 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: not all it could be television also, but it's all 399 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: essentially traditional news outlets that have vetted stories and had 400 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: the resources to send reporters to cover the story and editors, 401 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, photographers, and by getting it on 402 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: quote unquote online, the online platform is dependent on the 403 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: newspaper for the most part, and when that source of 404 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: news is gone, what are we left with? And it's 405 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: a real profound question. Now, I don't know if you 406 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: saw there was a letter to the editor in the 407 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: Daily News, the La Daily News after your piece wrote 408 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: ran that kind of represented the other part of the 409 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: problem is that in this very very hyperpartisan time, there 410 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: are people, I'm going to say, on the right who 411 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 2: are actively rooting for newspapers to fail because it's a 412 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: bunch of left wing propaganda. And then there are obviously 413 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: people on the left who looked at corporate media and 414 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: or Fox News, et cetera, et cetera, and write all 415 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: of that off. And how do we get past this 416 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: because we literally have people who have just rejected stories 417 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: that come from sources that they have a political problem with. 418 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: Well, one of the problems the surface that is connected politically, 419 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: but it's not a partisan issue, is that there are 420 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: another studies that show more and more people want to 421 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: read only that which confirms their existing biases. It's probably 422 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: forty years ago at the La Times, they decided at 423 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: one point on the editorial page to have something called 424 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: column left and column right, and they'd have Max Learners say, 425 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: talking about an issue on the left and George will 426 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: talking about this same issue on the right. And the theory, 427 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: at least from the part of the editors was this 428 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: is a good way to convey to people their multiple 429 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: sides for the story. Let them make up their own minds. 430 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: And even back then, they learned after a couple of 431 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: years and they dropped that feature that the people on 432 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the right were not reading Max Lerner, the liberal, and 433 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: the people on the left were not reading George will 434 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: who wrote more from the. 435 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: Right that's right. And the irony the irony here is 436 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: is that they're really from my and I don't have 437 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: the specific years, but we had essentially about a sixty 438 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: five year run where newspapers attempted the concept of neutrality. 439 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: They didn't make it. Obviously, human beings do it. Now 440 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: AI is going to do it. But before that, newspapers 441 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: were political organs of either specific candidates. So, for instance, 442 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: New York Post back in eighteen o was created by 443 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: Alexander Hamilton as an anti Jeffersonian news. The Philadelphia Aurora 444 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: was a Jeffersonian paper that was actually, you know, covertly 445 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: funded by Jefferson to trash the administration he served in 446 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: as Secretary of State and vice president. So you know, 447 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: we actually seem to be going back to the very beginning. Bob. 448 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: It's it's a really significant story. And people, while you're 449 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: rooting for papers to fail because you're mad at them, 450 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: we have to consider, look it, how corrupt things are 451 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: now and what's it going to be like if they 452 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: ain't here. Bob's book is called A Reporter's Life, One 453 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: Happy Life, A Reporter's Journey, One Happy Life. Bob, thanks 454 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: so much for being with us. I really appreciate it. 455 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: Bob Rawich, you're listening to John and Ken on demand, 456 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: from KF I am six. 457 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Forty McIntyre in for John and Ken that John Cobbolt 458 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: showed debuts on Tuesday, and I will be here on 459 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: Monday as well, and thanks to being on us. Next hour, 460 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: we're going to update you on the new charges file 461 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: against Hunter Biden and of course Joe Biden President Biden 462 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: in town today, which means he loses one hundred thousand 463 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: votes because of traffic. So we'll get into all of 464 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: that next hour, as well as the horrific increase in 465 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: violent threats against public officials. This is a really big 466 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: story that I saw on CNN and it's an eye 467 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: opener and it's kind of scary stuff. So we'll get 468 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: into all that and we'll hopefully have some fun as well. 469 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: Ryan O'Neil, you just heard TMZ reporting that Ryan O'Neill 470 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: has died, the Love Story star, one of the stars 471 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: of Love Story. And if you ever have the inclination, 472 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: check out a film called So Fine with Ryan O'Neill 473 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 2: and Jack Wardon. Absolutely hilarious. It was sort of a 474 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: parody of the Jordash Gen designer Gen phenomenon and it's 475 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: very very funny. Anyway, reports that Ryan O'Neil has passed. 476 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: There was an arrest in that bizarre and scary story 477 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: out in Caliber, which rarely has, I mean, the only 478 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: crime that they have to have in Calabasas is when 479 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: Justin Bieber was egging his neighbor's house. But this guy 480 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: from Oxnard apparently had gone down and punched a grandfather 481 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: who was out, a sixty year old grandfather was out 482 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: walking his grandson and a stroller, and apparently had committed 483 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: a similar act against a teenager sometime earlier. He was 484 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: arrested by the sheriff's department up in Ventura County, a 485 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: Santa Barbara, excuse me, So we're going to try to 486 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: get you some more information on that. Anyway, this guy's name, 487 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: the guy that's been arrested is Angel Sanchez Junior, a 488 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: twenty nine year old, a resident of Santa Barbara. Arrested 489 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: in Oxnard at two fifteen the other day. And they're 490 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: still not the suspicion of hate crime because the guy 491 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: that he attacked apparently was Asian, and maybe the teenager 492 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: he had attacked earlier also was. So we'll try to 493 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: get you more information on that. This is kind of interesting, 494 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people look to their healthcare 495 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: planet work to get into shape. A lot of companies 496 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: will pay for gym memberships as part of their benefits 497 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: package that they offer KFI they don't pay for gym membership. 498 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: But what they did here, and I thought it was 499 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 2: very thoughtful, is they sold the elevators so you have 500 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: to walk up the stairs to get to the radio station. Anyway, 501 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: you do what you can. But what's interesting is a 502 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: new HR industry report says that employees don't want the 503 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: gym memberships. What they want is ozepic. Yeah, why would 504 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: you if these pills really work? Apparently they do. Eli 505 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: Lilly just won clearance last week for zep bound, their 506 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: version of the diabetes drug Manjaro that will also be 507 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: specifically marketed marketed to patients with obesity in coming weeks. 508 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: And of course what GOV is another one of these things, 509 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: and those z Empic was the diabetes medication that people 510 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: discovered creates appetite suppression and produces significant weight loss. It's 511 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: really expensive. List prices for the drugs range from nine 512 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six bucks a month to nearly thirteen 513 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars a month. Which seems outrageous until 514 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: you actually do the math, because if you start subtracting 515 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: the pizza deliveries, the door dash deliveries, and the hot 516 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: fudge Sundays, maybe it's a push. But the bottom line 517 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: is these things work and that's what people want. So 518 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: take your gym membership and shove it. HR departments. The 519 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: benefits package we want are more pills. Of course, we 520 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: want more pills pretty much for everything. All Right, ladies 521 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, Tomorrow, which is Saturday, December ninth, I'm going 522 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: to be out at David K Books, Kaye. David K Books, 523 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: a wonderful independent store right on Ventura Boulevard in Woodland 524 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: Hills between noon and two pm, and I'll be signing 525 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: copies of my novel Frank's Shadow. And I would love 526 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: to say hello to you. See you come on out 527 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: say hello, and that would be fun. Good way to 528 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: spend a Saturday afternoon while you're out doing your Christmas shopping, 529 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: and hey, while you're Christmas shopping for the readers on 530 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: your list. Nothing makes a Christmas gift like Frank Shadow. 531 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we're back with another hour. We're going 532 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: to get into the Hunter Biden charges, and we're also 533 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: going to talk with Alex Michaelson, who had a chat 534 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: with Gavin Newsom. He's with Gavin Newsom today, so we 535 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: got lots of stuff coming up next hour. 536 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show. 537 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 538 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 539 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.