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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Do you remember in the in the

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Speaker 1: at what point in the nineties was this Mr snard Lee?

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Speaker 1: Was it pre or post Lewinsky? That A A P

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Speaker 1: did this post Lewinsky? So it was in the second

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Speaker 1: term of Bill Clinton. You you all remember ap Ran,

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Speaker 1: a series of stories picked up by all of the

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Speaker 1: other drive by media telling us that lying was good.

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Speaker 1: Little lies were helpful, they spared people's feelings. Everybody does it, uh,

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Speaker 1: and it was just it's it's a It actually has

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Speaker 1: redeeming social quality and value if if not done too much.

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Speaker 1: But even you know that within reason, lying is actually

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Speaker 1: a well calculated way to get through life, causing yourself

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Speaker 1: less pain and obviously others less pain. Well, you won't

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Speaker 1: believe this. What's it been about ten days since the

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Speaker 1: Was it this past Sunday? It's four foot time? So

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Speaker 1: Clinton appears on Fox News Sunday Show this past Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Though Monday Tuesday? Was it? So it's four days ago?

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Speaker 1: And I have here, ladies and gentlemen in h in

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Speaker 1: my formerly nicotine Stained Fingers, A story from our buddies

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Speaker 1: at the Associated Press by Joscelyn Novak. Is it cool

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Speaker 1: to lose your cool. That's one of the questions of

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Speaker 1: the week as we evaluate and reevaluate Bill Clinton's finger pointing,

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Speaker 1: knee poking interview with Chris Wallace on Fox. The first debate,

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Speaker 1: of course, was whether Clinton had actually lost it at all,

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Speaker 1: a full bore tantrum, one conservative columnists called it, or

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Speaker 1: knew exactly what he was doing, but splitting the difference

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Speaker 1: for a moment, the interesting issue becomes, I kid you

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Speaker 1: not can I can't see this with a straight face.

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Speaker 1: Can public anger in politics, business and elsewhere be a

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Speaker 1: good thing? Is? Yes, Let's have more road rage, Let's

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Speaker 1: have more threatening of journalists here what Ailes said? Ales

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Speaker 1: came out and said this was an assault or an

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Speaker 1: attack on all journalists. Uh. Clinton was totally over the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you what. We have a story here

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Speaker 1: from the ap on how this is really good? Uh,

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Speaker 1: public anger, politics, business and elsewhere it could be a

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Speaker 1: good thing. Is a little tantrum now? And then just

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Speaker 1: what's called for? Well, they went out and they found

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Speaker 1: somebody who agrees with their question and answers it the

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Speaker 1: way they wanted under the right circumstances, Yes, say some

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Speaker 1: analysts of social behavior when's the last time, folks, anybody

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Speaker 1: ever told you it was good to have a public

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Speaker 1: display of temper? When was it? When was the last

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Speaker 1: time anybody praised you for doing a smart thing and

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Speaker 1: the right thing by losing your cool. Well, just as

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Speaker 1: b j's are now not sex, so is road rage

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Blowing your cool, losing your temper in public,

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Speaker 1: even in business, is the right thing to do under

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Speaker 1: the right circumstances. According to um A senior associate dean

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Speaker 1: at Yale's School of Management, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, it's more important

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Speaker 1: than ever to cut through the clutter. All of us

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Speaker 1: are so overmanaged these days. Public figures have platoons at protectors.

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Speaker 1: It's more important than ever to show authentic, real emotions.

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Speaker 1: Sonenfel believes that Clinton's anger was genuine and yet intentionally uncensored,

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Speaker 1: and he says Clinton has told him personally in the

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Speaker 1: past that when your critics are wrong, your fireback on

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Speaker 1: all cylinders, taken on with the full force, and don't

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Speaker 1: let up. In the Fox News interview, Clinton pointed his finger,

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Speaker 1: leaning sharply in toward Wallace, poked his leg all in

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Speaker 1: animated response to the question of whether his administration had

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Speaker 1: done enough to pursue Osama bin Laden. I went back

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Speaker 1: to my website. I wanted to find out exactly when

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Speaker 1: all these stories about how good it is to lie?

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Speaker 1: We're we got it. We have a whole segment on

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Speaker 1: it and the essential stack of stuff and it ran

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Speaker 1: this October two thousand five, almost a year ago. Will

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Speaker 1: we see stories on how healthy lying is? And we

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Speaker 1: chronicle here on the website all of the stories that

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Speaker 1: came out in the sea from February through um September

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Speaker 1: on how healthy it is to lie? Cleveland playing dealer.

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Speaker 1: They want Clinton to be a saint, Boston Herald to

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Speaker 1: tell the truth Clinton's troubles, get couples talking, Rocky Mountain,

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Speaker 1: Knews when if ever is lying okay? And CNN in

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Speaker 1: Time Magazine the truth about lying. All of these stories

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Speaker 1: were we're oriented around how healthy it can be. UH

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Speaker 1: spares people's feelings, and we we wonder if if the

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Speaker 1: same sentiment will be extended towards good or libby Because

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Speaker 1: Clinton lied under oath in a grand jury deposition. Of

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Speaker 1: course he's lying about sex. He had to do a a

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Speaker 1: smart thing to do to protect the family, protecting daughter,

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Speaker 1: protect everything else. It's a two way street. And now

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Speaker 1: we've got this story from the AP. Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, an

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Speaker 1: associate dean at Yale's School of Management, saying, Hey, none

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Speaker 1: of the right circumstances, blow your top, cut through the clutter.

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Speaker 1: It's too controlled out there. It can be. It'd be

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Speaker 1: a really great thing to do out there. Public anger, politics, business, UH, elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: and there's a let's see who else. Kathleen hall Jamison,

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Speaker 1: an analyst of political communication UH, said that none of

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Speaker 1: Clinton's gestures is necessarily indicative of a loss of control.

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Speaker 1: What we usually see from politicians are scripted moments or

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Speaker 1: interviews that are puff pieces. We rarely see a tough

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Speaker 1: one on one Kathleen, do you ever watch Meet the

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Speaker 1: Press when Dick Cheney's on UH or when Donald Rumcell's

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Speaker 1: on somewhere? I continue to be mystified. But at any rate,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentle feel free blow your top, have a

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Speaker 1: little road rage out there. UH. It's cool, therapeutic and

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Speaker 1: a very helpful