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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, getting up, going and getting them here on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. One Bill's Live is

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Speaker 2: the show. Thanks for making us part of your afternoon,

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Speaker 2: and players back on the practice field. We'll have all

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Speaker 2: the updates for you after the session is over, including

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Speaker 2: some post player practice commentary. We're expecting Dion Dawkins to

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Speaker 2: address the media after practice today, so keep your eyes

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Speaker 2: out and ears out for that. And we heard from

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Speaker 2: both coordinators before practice today, both Joe Brady and Bobby Babbage.

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Speaker 2: Some interesting comments there, which we'll get to in a second.

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Speaker 2: But first transactions, and this is the time of the year, Steve.

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Speaker 2: For transactions, the Bills continue to add players, primarily in

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Speaker 2: light of injuries. Today they signed cornerback Zia Alexander, running

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Speaker 2: back Elijah Young, and offensive lineman rush Raimer. Ramer was

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Speaker 2: with the club through the spring. In the first week

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Speaker 2: of training camp, to make room on the roster, the

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Speaker 2: Bills release kicker Caden Davis and running back Jarvian Howard,

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Speaker 2: who was waived injured. Howard was just signed yesterday but

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Speaker 2: got injured in his first practice, and just like that,

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Speaker 2: he's here and gone. How encouraged are you about the

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Speaker 2: health of Tyler Bass seeing Caden Davis moved off the roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably that's encouraging, I guess they.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you hate to see it at the expense

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Speaker 2: of somebody else, but.

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Speaker 3: It does spell good things for for Beast certainly. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Caden Davis didn't play bad. He missed

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Speaker 3: the one kick in the game in Chicago, correct, but

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Speaker 3: he you know, he quitted him. He acquitted himself pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Here's a bill I mean extra point in the Giants game.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, so there's you know, there's a limited

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Speaker 3: action for him, but there you have it. And that's

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Speaker 3: the way the world turns. All this stuff. Man, It's

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Speaker 3: it's like putting sugar in your tea, stirred up. That's

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Speaker 3: what they do at the bottom of the roster. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they just they just they're always charging. They're always looking

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden they get a guy's like, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: this guy's a little better than we thought. And all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden you got a contributor.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the most important thing they need this week

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Speaker 2: are healthy players. Right, knowing that the balance of you know,

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Speaker 2: the roster at the top end probably not playing on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Exceptions, it's it's I think it's gonna be really ugly

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Speaker 3: in Tampa. I think that. I mean, Jarvion was probably

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Speaker 2: Him, perhaps, you know, or Frank Gore probably starts Frank Gore.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you might set Frank down. What's he got

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Speaker 3: to prove? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But Zi, this is Alexander, Elijah Young. Elijah Young is

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Speaker 3: gonna Elijah Young is gonna play.

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Speaker 2: A Bolt doesn't get hurt between now and them.

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Speaker 3: Friday doesn't. Yes, he doesn't get hurt and stretch.

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Speaker 2: I wonder we saw Cole Bishop get twelve snaps last

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Speaker 2: week he was on a hitch count.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Does he get any on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think he does, right, he does?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean we heard from defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage just

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Speaker 2: before practice today and he addressed cold situation because he

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Speaker 2: was asked about it, and he said, we are seeing

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Speaker 2: progress there. But he didn't deny that they're trying to

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Speaker 2: make up for some lost time due to Bishop's quad

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Speaker 2: the first preseason game, and so hearing all that, the

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Speaker 2: sense I get is if you had to pick somebody

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, Cole Bishop's on that list, I think, and

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Speaker 2: it might only be for a pitch count. Again, well,

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Speaker 2: even so, because you're you know, it is two weeks

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you're right, it is what it is. But

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Speaker 3: it's I don't have any problem with it, certainly, I'm

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Speaker 3: and nobody's immune obviously to get hurt. But you got

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Speaker 3: to get the guy some reps. You want to see him.

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Speaker 3: And the problem is do you want him to get

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's as important as just getting

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing to look for is who

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Speaker 2: that would serve as indication that that decision has already

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Speaker 2: been made. If you've got all of all of the

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Speaker 2: already made that call, right, I think so probably.

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Speaker 3: And I think it'll say even if if Leviscus she

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Speaker 3: knows that they're taking every kick in every punt, that

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Speaker 3: says something, right. I mean, I'm not so sure if

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Speaker 2: Which I think is going to be a challenge because

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking too, if if they like Chenault

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Speaker 3: maybe he becomes number five or even six, maybe five

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be hard, though. I think you got to

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Speaker 3: You can only play and you're only gonna activate. Maybe, well,

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Speaker 3: if you activate all five every week, you can keep five.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget Steve. There was there was a time

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Speaker 2: where the Bills routinely dressed six receivers.

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Speaker 3: Sure was there once where they it was under Dable

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Speaker 2: Well, they had seven on their initial fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 3: It's happened, yes, but there was a stretch.

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Speaker 2: There, especially when Dable was the coordinator. They were dressing

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Speaker 3: And they were getting reps too. I mean, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: Now one of those guys was Andre Roberts and then

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Speaker 2: and it changed too when I think that was it

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Speaker 3: It might have been twenty because it was right, because

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Speaker 3: it was it might have been one of those times

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Speaker 3: too also a little bit of it had to do

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: There's a little bit of that going on too. But

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Speaker 3: this roster, really, it's the only interesting thing about the

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Speaker 3: roster right now is like the bottoms of the wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: going to shuffle that with the two suspensions. That's that's it.

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Speaker 2: And how many ends are you keeping? How many dts

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Speaker 3: Everything is kind of like, eh, it's kind of rubber

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Speaker 2: You seem to be convinced that one of those two

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Speaker 2: White or Trubisky, And I'm not so convinced of that

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Speaker 2: elsewhere because I think I'm capable, and I mean that guy, well,

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Speaker 2: they're both vested veterans, so they're automatic. They don't go

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Speaker 2: through waivers, they're agents. But you wonder if one of

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of teams that could do

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Speaker 2: a lot better than their current backup quarterback situation.

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Speaker 3: If they were in demand, they'd trade him, not cut

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Speaker 3: him well, and it'd be done right.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: But I listen, it's better to be the third guy

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Speaker 3: which just may happen. I got, like Trubisky or Mike White,

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Speaker 3: him and signed him to an extension after last year,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they're both gonna play on Saturday, and again,

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Speaker 2: if one of them does not, the decision might already

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Speaker 2: be made. So those are interesting things to contemplate as

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Speaker 2: we get ready for the final preseason game on Saturday

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Speaker 2: night in Tampa Bay. Hard knocks last night. You catch it?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did anything? Catch you?

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Speaker 3: Mcgovernor's pizza knight seemed pretty nice to him.

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Speaker 2: We got to get an invite. I think we might

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Speaker 2: be a little too small. Yeah, we've seen the size

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Speaker 3: How do you he is all he's like fanning the

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Speaker 3: smoke detector and that is that is total total bro behavior.

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Speaker 2: Just blow the smoke away from it. It'll stop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, and and uh it was all

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Speaker 3: it was really good stuff. I thought they handled the

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Speaker 3: the laugher in Chicago. You know, kind of the stinker

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Speaker 3: that the team put up. I think you do get

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Speaker 3: a chance to to see how the coaches handle their staffs.

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Speaker 3: You saw Joe Brady tell them kind of giving a

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Speaker 3: kind of messaging his coaches about what their message should

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Speaker 3: you know, we got to get after the ball. We

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Speaker 3: a lot of what goes on you coach your coaches

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Speaker 3: Good for even start, good for him and his performance

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Speaker 2: the twelve. Yeah, week twelve, right before Thanksgiving, So you'll

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Speaker 2: be able to catch up with each other a week

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Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving that Thursday night came there you go. I

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Speaker 2: mean they had done it, you know, on an annual

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Speaker 2: basis when he was with the Dolphins, I mean twice

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Speaker 2: a year. So get to meet him out in Houston

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Speaker 2: in late November, so that'll be neat for him. So

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Speaker 2: that's around the NFL presented by Colida Health. Topic of

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Speaker 2: discussion for you today concerns the Bills wide receiver group.

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Speaker 2: How do you see it shaking out? When roster cuts

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Speaker 2: are made six days from today, it's closing in quickly.

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Speaker 2: You can talk about whether you see them keeping five, six,

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Speaker 2: maybe even seven. Who you think they are? Who do

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Speaker 2: you think has to show up and show out this

449
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Speaker 2: week to nail their spot down? How do you see

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Speaker 2: the Bills wide receiver group shaken out? Eighth, three, five

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Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board as well as

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Speaker 2: one eight eight, eight, five fifty two five fifty. Got

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Speaker 2: open lines for you there, And if you can't give

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Speaker 2: us a call, not a problem, you can hit us

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Speaker 2: up on the tweets sheet add one Bills Live and

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Speaker 2: post your comments to us there. But I think Coach

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Speaker 2: McDermott when he addressed the media yesterday all but ensured

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Speaker 2: there are going to be six receivers on the roster

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Speaker 2: at least six, and that has been the case for

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of the years of the McDermott regime.

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Speaker 2: Five last year was the only time they went that low.

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Speaker 2: I think six is a good bet going forward, just

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Speaker 2: based on past history number one, and some of the

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Speaker 2: dual threat ability of some of the players, like a

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Speaker 2: Laviska Shenault, for example, who offers you a lot of

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Speaker 2: on special teams. So you let us know what you

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Speaker 2: think though, aight, oh three oh five point fifty one,

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Speaker 2: eight of eight, five fifty two, five fifty. Got to

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Speaker 2: take a break here, but when we come back, we'll

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Speaker 2: be taking your phone calls. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. How do

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Speaker 2: you see the Bill's wide receiver group shaking out when

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Speaker 2: final cuts are made six days from now? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you here on One Bills Live at

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the numbers to jump on with us,

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Speaker 2: and we do have open lines for you there to

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Speaker 2: introduce how this could go. We get the end sites

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Speaker 2: of one offensive coordinator Joe Brady, who has asked specifically

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Speaker 2: about his thoughts on his receiving core at this moment.

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Speaker 5: I love where our whiteouts are right now. I know

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Speaker 5: we've had some We've had some injuries, you know, but

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Speaker 5: I like where we're at. You know, I feel good

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Speaker 5: about one through I feel good about one through eight,

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Speaker 5: you know, of being able to contribute for us, like

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Speaker 5: all different skill sets all you know, we're gonna have

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Speaker 5: to figure out how to how to kind of put

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Speaker 5: them in and figure out those positions personnel groupings, and

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Speaker 5: we'll get to the regular season for that. But I

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Speaker 5: feel really good with where our Whiteouts are. Josh has

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Speaker 5: a good comfort level with them, and I know we

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Speaker 5: haven't got some preseason games with them. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: good to get Curtis back yesterday kind of moving around,

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Speaker 5: and we'll obviously ramp him back up. But I have

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Speaker 5: no questions with our white house going into the season.

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Speaker 2: So he's not worried. Not that I would expect a

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Speaker 2: coach to say anything different. You publicly express confidence. He

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Speaker 2: likes his players and I understand that. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: probably had input in acquiring a lot of them, and

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Speaker 2: he feels good one through eight. Steve, there's only twelve

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Speaker 2: on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm there with him. I mean, we went

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Speaker 3: through this last year and it was it was more

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Speaker 3: unknown last year than this year. The guys they signed

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Speaker 3: last year had less pedigree than the guys they signed

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: Thinner on talent, like just pure talent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they go out and they hang six

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Speaker 3: hundred and twelve points on the league through the regular

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Speaker 3: season playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And had guys in and out of the lineup.

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Speaker 3: They were rinsing guys through there like yesterday, Socks. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so this group is much has a much better pedigree

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Speaker 3: than that group last year, and they crushed it last year.

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Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, I'm fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm that side of that whole side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You you're just putting a check in the box.

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Speaker 3: Running back, you know. Okay, and they even got better.

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Speaker 3: They they're gonna get better and they're gonna evolve again.

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Speaker 3: They're all that. They're all over it over there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they got they got dudes over there, Sara. I'm I know.

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Speaker 3: I maybe there's some fans out there that are never

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Speaker 3: you know, they I don't know, they want I want,

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Speaker 3: I want all of that. So I'm not there. I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm right with Joe Brady.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we want to know how you see the receiver

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Speaker 2: group shaking out though? At eight oh three oh five,

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Speaker 2: fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty the

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Speaker 2: numbers to join us. We lead off today with Michael

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Speaker 2: in Rochester. What's up? Michael?

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Speaker 6: Hey, what's up? Chris? And Steve? Thank you for taking

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Speaker 6: my call. And before I get into the question, I

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Speaker 6: was say thank you, Steve because the last day of

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Speaker 6: camp at Saint John's Fisher you took a picture with

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Speaker 6: me and my friend Luke, and I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for stopping by absolutely, And as far as the

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Speaker 6: receiver core goes, the last time I called Steve, you

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Speaker 6: weren't on the show. Maddie was on the show and

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Speaker 6: I said to her, do you think there was a

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Speaker 6: chance that the Bills could keep seven receivers? And she

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Speaker 6: thought that the probably answer would be no, And the

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Speaker 6: more I watched the preseason, I agree with her. But

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Speaker 6: I do believe that Tarrell Shavers is going to make

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Speaker 6: the team. So rather it's Curtis Samuel being traded or

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Speaker 6: Laviska Chanoff being cut, I think the way it's going

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Speaker 6: to shake out is that Terrell Shavers is going to

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Speaker 6: make the fifty three man roster, so I think he'll

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Speaker 6: be one to six receivers, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, a lot of people are on that on the

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Speaker 3: Shavers train.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's he's produced. Like, look, let's think

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Speaker 2: about these first two preseason games. Steve hasn't been all

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Speaker 2: sunshine and rainbows in terms of performance as a team

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Speaker 2: or individually for a lot of guys, Shavers has shown

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Speaker 2: up in each of the first two games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's the only guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, let's remember there are starters that have sat. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's you know, there's top three guys that have sat.

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Speaker 2: Shakier's been injured, he hasn't been a factor. Coleman didn't

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Speaker 2: play last week, Palmer did, and so did Elijah Moore.

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Speaker 2: And I think you could argue that Shavers had a

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Speaker 2: better performance than more did, who struggled with a couple

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Speaker 2: of drops. So he has done everything to make a

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Speaker 2: case for himself. It's been interesting to see the team

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Speaker 2: try to find a role or two on special teams

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Speaker 2: for him as well, because as the fifth or sixth

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Speaker 2: wide out on game day, you're not gonna get a

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Speaker 2: ton of snaps on offense, so you better be doing

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Speaker 2: something on special teams for them. And that's I think

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Speaker 2: that's where there might still be some question as to

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Speaker 2: how he can capably serve every week on teams. I

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Speaker 2: think that, and quite frankly, I think that's the only question.

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Speaker 2: Because he's better on his releases this year than he

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Speaker 2: was last year. He's getting open more consistently, and he's

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Speaker 2: catching the football and making plays.

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Speaker 3: Shaves may make it, but that's it's not a given.

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Speaker 2: It's not a given.

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Speaker 3: I was not a given. We have seen the specialty

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Speaker 3: thinking about this. Think how many running backs have we

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Speaker 3: all fallen in love with in these preseasons and none

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Speaker 3: of them make it? They none of them do. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be that. It might be the same thing with

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Speaker 3: with Shavers again this year. Now, I'll say this, if

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Speaker 3: they try and put that guy on the practice squad

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Speaker 3: after the preseason he's had, he'll get a sign, he'll

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Speaker 3: sign something. But I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's always and that's and that's part of the equation

588
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Speaker 2: in the decision making process too. Let's not forget that

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Speaker 2: if you have a player that you don't believe you

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Speaker 2: have room for, but you know you can't get him

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Speaker 2: through waivers on the practice squad, you have one of

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Speaker 2: two options. You can either try to set him up

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Speaker 2: with it try to trade him and at least get

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Speaker 2: some value back for him, knowing he's probably gonna get claimed.

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Speaker 2: See if you can get a team interested enough to

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Speaker 2: flip you a seven or something.

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Speaker 7: Or.

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Speaker 2: You go one extra spot at that position, even if

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Speaker 2: it's only for a week or two, just to hold

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Speaker 2: on to the guy. I don't know. It's a tough

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Speaker 2: that's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: You might have to come to grips with the fact

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Speaker 2: that if you don't put him on your fifty three,

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Speaker 2: he will get claimed and not clear waivers.

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Speaker 3: The yeah, the there's always it used to be an

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Speaker 3: old adage and I've said it a bunch, but every

608
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Speaker 3: training camp there was somebody surprising who got cut or released,

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Speaker 3: and there was also somebody surprising who made it, not

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Speaker 3: even at the same position sometimes yep. So this is

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Speaker 3: I think Shavers, Chanault, Codrington. All that in there is

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Speaker 3: the crux of our questions.

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Speaker 2: I think let's go to Tom on the West side next.

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Speaker 2: What's up Tom?

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon again, guys, uh my six would be of course,

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Speaker 8: got Colvin here, Palmer and Curtis, Samuel, Mike Mike question

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Speaker 8: about Samuel as the injury prone and Kenny lasts seventeen games.

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Speaker 8: So now I agree with Michael, and I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 8: Shavers in the conversation. And I think the odd guy

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Speaker 8: out might be more because I believe that that the

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Speaker 8: oh what's his name, the guy you were just talking

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Speaker 8: about him the punt return. Yeah, Chana Chanald is gonna

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Speaker 8: make it. Now. If they do keep seven, then yeah,

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Speaker 8: more is in that mix. But he's not gonna be

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Speaker 8: in that mix unless they keep seven, because I really

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Speaker 8: think they're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Keep now, Okay, so it'll be Chanault would be six,

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Speaker 3: and then More would be the seventh, I guess. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Keon, Shakir Palmer, those Samuel and then you

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Speaker 3: got Shavers Chanalt more.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think we're gonna have to wait and

632
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Speaker 2: see what moves are made aside from just player cuts.

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Speaker 2: Are their trades in the works, you know, those kinds

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Speaker 2: of things, Because while the James Cook contract essentially will

635
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Speaker 2: presumably bring them into cap compliance when they reduce the

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Speaker 2: roster to fifty three, and then all contracts count both

637
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: active roster and practice squad, like all sixteen players count

638
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: towards your cap. That money saved with the Cook extension

639
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Speaker 2: for this year, essentially should make them cap compliant. But

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Speaker 2: you have to believe that Brandon Bean's going to be

641
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Speaker 2: looking for a little extra wiggle room in the event

642
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Speaker 2: he has to make a signing, if there's a rash

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Speaker 2: of injuries during the season, things of that nature, he

644
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: might be looking to move some players off this roster

645
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Speaker 2: via trade to save money on the cap as well,

646
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Speaker 2: And so you look, you would then look at veteran

647
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: players who would save this team appreciable money via trade.

648
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Speaker 2: It should be noted that Elijah Moore's contract is fully guaranteed.

649
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Speaker 2: It's a one year deal. It's two and a half

650
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Speaker 2: million with incentives that could push it to five two

651
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Speaker 2: and a half millions guaranteed. That's not a lot of money.

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00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: So if you had to move on from him and

653
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: he's not good enough to make your roster, I don't

654
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: think it would be the end of the world fiscally

655
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: for the Bills, But it's still something that Brandon Bean's

656
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: the coaching staff have to consider. Yeah, that and maybe

657
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: he's a guy that comes up as a potential move

658
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: option in a trade.

659
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting because there there it really is

660
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: tough to let one of these guys goes. It's not like, okay,

661
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: we're talking about the sixth wide receiver on the roster. Okay,

662
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: it's not going to you know, the roof is not

663
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: falling if we're not haves and have not right, but

664
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: there is as we read today early in the show,

665
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: there are three or two or three teams out there

666
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: looking for a guy and it has like a legit

667
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: guy that can help them, not a back of the

668
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: roster guy. Yeah. So you know it's easy for us

669
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: to say, well, we like this guy, well, we like him,

670
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: we don't like him better than the other four guys

671
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: on the list. And that's kind of what San Francisco

672
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: and all these other teams are going to be looking there, like, yeah,

673
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: we don't like him any better than that either. So

674
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: we're not going to give you anything for him. It's

675
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: not as easy just call make picking up the phone

676
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: and waving your magic wand so I think they're gonna

677
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: have to make a real tough decision here. And you

678
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: got it when you start thinking about it, where it's

679
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: not about playing wide receiver, it's about the fifty three

680
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 3: man roster and having the best one that will help

681
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: you win. You need guys at those spots the five

682
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: and six receiver who do stuff other than play wide receiver.

683
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: And if you do determine that you want to go

684
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: seven there at the receiver position, well, now you're robbing

685
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: a spot from another position to make it work. And

686
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: that's the thing, Like, you don't get an extra spot

687
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: because you really like your wide receivers. You got to

688
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: pull that spot from somewhere else. And where does that

689
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: come from? And if you can work it out, because

690
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: let's just say hypothetically, the position's linebacker and you say,

691
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: you know what, we're only going to carry five linebackers

692
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: on the roster instead of six because we can. We

693
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: can put this young linebacker on the practice squad, he'll

694
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: clear waivers will be fine, you know, Jimmy Charlow.

695
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 3: For example, right, Or we can go with five because

696
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: we've got Joe Andriese who can play both linebacker spots

697
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: as back.

698
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: Whatever the scenario you come up with, well, then that

699
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: gives you the avenue to go fat at another position,

700
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: whether it's receiver or something else. But we don't know

701
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: what they're thinking all of their other spots.

702
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: Here's the thing we're talking about wide out. I don't

703
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: think you go fat on the offensive side of the

704
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: ball with his crew, You've got to give him more

705
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: help on defense. I mean they've thrown everything they've gotten

706
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: at that side of the ball.

707
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and maybe linebackers are poor example, because I

708
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: get it though, but there are linebackers that have to

709
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: play on special is.

710
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: The point is valid. You're not skimming on the roster

711
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of this football team. I mean

712
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: you've got a huge margin of error on the offensive

713
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: side because of seventeen. And I mean he you know,

714
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: he was making chicken salad all last year, right, and

715
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: he was the MVP. And with the offensive line that

716
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: you've assembled, he did. Even the MVP can sit there

717
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: and hand it off half the time, or at least

718
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: it gets you enough points, or you can hand Trubisky

719
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: or Mike White can hand it off the rest of

720
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: the game. I mean, that's what you're talking about. This

721
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: crew was hanging thirty points every week every week, and

722
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: they're better this year. They should be. I mean they

723
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: look better on paper. I mean, so you don't need

724
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: to give them sixteen more guys over there. Just go

725
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: get it's the other side of the ball. And I've

726
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: been saying this for a couple of weeks. This team

727
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: will go further this year based on the improvement of

728
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: their defense. If you want them to go further, which

729
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: means winning the AFC Championship Game, getting to the Super

730
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: Bowl and maybe having a shot to win that, it's

731
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: all about how much better the defense is gonna be.

732
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: In my mind, they if the defense significantly improves, they'll

733
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: go even further than they did last year. And I'll

734
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: say it again, they made it to three points away

735
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: from the super Bowl last year.

736
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Speaker 2: Right, We got to take a break here, but Nick

737
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: in North Carolina and Ryan and Toronto will get to

738
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: you when we return. As we're asking you how to

739
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: see the Bills wide receiver group shaking out when they

740
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: got to make cuts six days from today, you know,

741
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Speaker 2: three oh Fiveoin fifty to join us. We're back in

742
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Speaker 2: a flash here on One Bill's Live presented by Colia Health.

743
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Going back to one Bills Live Wednesday. Addition,

744
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Chris Braun Steve Tasker with you, gonna get right back

745
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: to the phones. As we're asking you, how do you

746
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: see the Bills wide receiver group shaking out when they

747
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 2: make final cuts six days from today, Tuesday, August twenty sixth,

748
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: by four pm to the phones, we go into Nick

749
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: and North Carolina. What's up Nick?

750
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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, So this is a little bit off topic,

751
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 9: but I wanted to get I want to ask a

752
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 9: quick question. I don't mind going into these preseason games

753
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 9: getting blown out, and I don't even mind going into

754
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 9: Tampa Bay and losing five hundred or nothing, as long

755
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 9: as we don't have any injuries. But my question is,

756
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 9: and I only know this because I'm a former profighter,

757
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 9: what do the what do the coaches and the players

758
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 9: do two weeks before the game, since they're going up

759
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 9: against Buffalo or Baltimore. Will the coaches after this Tampa

760
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 9: Bay game, will they go have at least one practice

761
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 9: you know ready, you know, as hard as you can go, blood,

762
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 9: sweat and tears, and then have the walk through the

763
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 9: first the first week.

764
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Speaker 3: You mean, how how intense will they go in preparation

765
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: for Baltimore. Yeah, they'll they'll turn it up a notch

766
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: on a certain schedule. I don't know the sports science

767
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: behind it, but that'll be a part of it. Like

768
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: go hard this day so you'll be refreshed and recovered

769
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: on that day, and so you'll be peaking on game

770
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: day kind of thing. They'll yes, they'll have a practice

771
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: where they'll go hard and get it, get that tempo

772
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: right now, you're not you're still not gonna take anybody

773
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 3: to the ground. And they still have a limited number

774
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 3: of padded practices that they can use, but they will

775
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: use those judiciously.

776
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can only have sixteen padded practices over

777
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: the course of the regular season by CBA rule, right,

778
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: and that was negotiated.

779
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 3: You'll have a bunch of those in the first half

780
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 3: because in the second half of the season everybody's spending

781
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: too much time healing up. What else you got, No, that's.

782
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: That's all you had. Really, And I'll just say this too.

783
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: The coaching staff is already installing stuff. Yeah, for the

784
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: week one game plan. That's already happening.

785
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: They're all over the Baltimore in fact, they're watching Baltimore

786
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: Ravens preseason tape just in case, and they're looking for personnel.

787
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: They're looking for people that they may see who were

788
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: different than last year's have.

789
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Speaker 2: Their advantage outs at their preseason.

790
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: Yes, they're looking at those guys closely, and so and

791
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: Ravens are doing the exact same thing. I'm sure the

792
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: Ravens are licking their chops watching the Bills play against Chicago,

793
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: but they're also smart enough. Are the Ravens to throw

794
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: the tape down the toilet too? Because none of the

795
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: guys out there were gonna You're gonna see so it's yeah,

796
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: they will like you. Not too many people care about

797
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: the preseason win or loss, but I'll say this, that

798
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: stinker of a game that the Bills had in Chicago

799
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: was not It was not nothing, and they knew it

800
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: and they they're I think it affected their syc and

801
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: the coaching staff was all was on these guys. I

802
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: was like, listen, we're not gonna do that again. And

803
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're going to go out and win

804
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: ninety to nothing against Tampa Bay, but that was unacceptable

805
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: to me. I wouldn't say I wouldn't say this because

806
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't that kind of player. But that's on the staff.

807
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: That's on the staff and the the schedule and doing

808
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: what they did and the way they did it, and

809
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: who played how they were told they were going to play.

810
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: All those everybody in that locker room, everybody on that

811
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: sideline and in the game was unprepared to play emotionally,

812
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: just because of the week that led up to it,

813
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: the way it was handled it. And you know, nobody

814
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: knows they've never been to Chicago for a pre you know,

815
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: for a joint practice and a two days layout and

816
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: flopping around a hotel over to the city for two

817
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: and they look like they look horrible. They're not gonna

818
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: do that again. But to me, that's as much to

819
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: do with the coaching staff and the logistics and the

820
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: move and the travel and all of that and showing

821
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: up flat as it was anything tactically or talent wise

822
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: on the on the field.

823
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Speaker 2: And Nick, I know that you're you're concerned because you're

824
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: not seeing starters in the preseason, so you're saying, how

825
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: will they get ready for Baltimore. I'm just gonna tell

826
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: you flat out that players when they get here, I've

827
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: talked to them and they've told me, like, the way

828
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: we practice here is different than anywhere I've ever been before.

829
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Speaker 2: And the description they give is the level of intensity

830
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: and competitiveness that they bring to the practice field. They

831
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: make it as game like as you can possibly imagine.

832
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: So so every day. In the practice setting, the intensity

833
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: meter is up to nine nine and a half, if

834
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: not ten. So every day they're playing as close to

835
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: game speed as humanly possible, and there are a lot

836
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: of other teams in this league that do not do that.

837
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: And just talking to some of the people that were

838
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: the joint practice last week in Chicago, who've been around

839
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: the training camp circuit, they say that the Bills are

840
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: one of the most intense practice teams they've seen in

841
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: the league. Like one guy mentioned he was at the

842
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: Cincinnati camp. He goes, it's not the same. He goes,

843
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: that's all I'm gonna say. It's not the same. So

844
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: there is value on the practice field here in Buffalo,

845
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: which I know might be frustrating for fans because they

846
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: don't see it. It's present.

847
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: So let's say this. You know one thing that permeates

848
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: this that we talk about once in a while, I

849
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: don't if you really sit down and think about it

850
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: from my perspective, is going through it as a former player,

851
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: going through training camps and watching guys get cut and

852
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: released and signed and coming back in the next year,

853
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: and you got a core group of guys that are

854
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: gonna play and kind of everybody knows are going to

855
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: be on the team and all this place is light

856
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: years away from the old school training camp mentality of

857
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: surviving it and getting through. There's a two or three

858
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: subtle yet profound differences the way Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean

859
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: and his coaching staff runs their program. One is and

860
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: I'll you get what you earn, and they don't just

861
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 3: it's not lip service you had. They prove it every year.

862
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: Christian Benford not only beat out a number one draft pick,

863
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: but he became an All pro or pretty close to it,

864
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: an elite corner as a sixth round draft pick in

865
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Speaker 3: year one, hit sixth round draft pick with a first

866
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: rounder on the team in that same draft class, ended

867
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: up on day one starting at corner. That is an

868
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: absolute fairy tale. Now, Nope, there's no other team in

869
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: the league that would have ever even considered that. You'd

870
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: have owners breathing down your neck saying why did you

871
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: draft this guy? Why am I paying this guy? Get

872
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: him on the They would meddle like that. It doesn't

873
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: happen like that in Buffalo. And that's just one different

874
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: There's a couple of others. We have time we're gonna

875
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: go break. They do it differently here, so you can

876
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: bet that's why they get off the last six years,

877
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: it's been at least three and one.

878
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: Yep. Let's go to Ryan in Toronto here before the break.

879
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: What's up Bryan?

880
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 4: Hey, Chris Steve. Honestly, I'm really disappointed how your topic

881
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: of discussion for today on August or twenty eight, sixpids

882
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: before roster cut as the White does here roster? Are

883
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: you guys kidding me? I'm being right on the morning

884
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: so and he was so confident that why does he

885
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: room is offset? I just had his offense scored thirty

886
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: first points every game, almost average. By right now they

887
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: had to tie, and they're bringing a guy cut Gabe

888
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: Davis two years ago and now he's not injured to

889
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: bring him back. Come on, this is not realistic. This

890
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: is not the way a team or hoganiz has And

891
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: I give who's continuing for Super Bowl? Looking for White

892
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: to site with six sars before a roster card. That's

893
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 4: take thank you?

894
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: All right. I don't really get the sense that Gabe

895
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: Davis is something that's imminent. I get the sense that

896
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: it's more exploratory in nature. See where he's at I

897
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: don't think he's one hundred percent healthy right now. And

898
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: usually when that's the case, teams bring the person in

899
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 2: see how they're doing, let their doctors take a look

900
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: at him, see what the prognosis is, and then maybe

901
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: if something comes up later on down the line and

902
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: the guy's still out there, maybe they check in. I

903
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 2: get the sense it's very exploratory in nature.

904
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: I would not expect him to sign Gabe. But here's

905
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: the thing, too, Ryan, the reason we went to the

906
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: wide receiver thing. The bigger question to me is the

907
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: safety position. But right now the safety position is moddle

908
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: because of injury. We can't even talk about it. We

909
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: don't even know what the store is. So that's why

910
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: we didn't talk about that. The wide receiver. There is

911
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: a question of how many they're gonna keep at the

912
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: and it is the bottom of the roster. But let's

913
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: face it, we're we're with the team that get It's

914
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 3: won the division five straight years, been the two AFC

915
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: championship games. They're this close every year. There's not too

916
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: much to discuss.

917
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact, Ryan, that you have to

918
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: accept the polarizing fact that after the Bills traded away

919
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. They made the philosophical decision to not have

920
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: an alpha receiver on this roster and instead decided to

921
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: have a collection of very good receivers, some with the

922
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: potential to be in alpha Keon Coleman in the in

923
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: the very near future. And that's their approach, and it

924
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: worked pretty damn well because they scored more points than

925
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: anybody else in football.

926
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: So it's a home run. But I Ryan, You're right,

927
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 3: this is this wide receiver thing. It's it's minutia a

928
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: little bit.

929
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't believe the receiving core is good enough,

930
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: though you may he's made that plane. He was angry

931
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: the other day.

932
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: What do you say about what do you say about

933
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: last year's I mean, this is better than last year's

934
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: and they set a club record.

935
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: I think he's looking for a true alpha, and that's

936
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: just not the philosophy of the Bill.

937
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: They're not doing that.

938
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: We're at the top of the hour. We got to

939
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Speaker 2: take a break when we begin our number two. We're

940
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Speaker 2: gonna do that with Bill's team reporter Matty glab and

941
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 2: she joins us next year in studio on one Bill's

942
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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health.

943
00:50:21,840 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 10: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

944
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

945
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Okay, second hour the show here on a Wednesday, Chris

946
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker joined in studio by Bill's team reporter

947
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: Maddy lab who joins us now and fresh off the

948
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: practice field along with the players. Yeah, we heard from

949
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: both Bobby Babbage and Joe Brady before practice, so I'm

950
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: curious for your take on some of their comments. Today.

951
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Joe Brady, not surprisingly, was asked about the receiving corps.

952
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: He likes his group one through eight.

953
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 11: He said, keep an a wide receivers on the rocks Sea.

954
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen. Maybe it's six with

955
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: two on the practice squad. But Steve and I were

956
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: talking about this, and we really feel like it's a

957
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: if you're keeping only six, it's kind of like a

958
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Shaver Chinault discussion. And the problem there is I don't

959
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: think either of the those guys get through waivers. I

960
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 2: have to check to see if Chinault is a vested veteran.

961
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: I believe he might be, which would just make him

962
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: a free agent free to sign anywhere if he doesn't

963
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: make the squad here, I believe Shavers would still go

964
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: through waivers, But with what Shavers has done in the

965
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 2: preseason in each of the last two games, I don't

966
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: think he can sneak him through waivers and get him

967
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: to your practice squad. So it's a conundrum.

968
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 11: There, I agree, And thinking about the preseason offseason training

969
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 11: camp that Tyrrel Shavers has had. This is now his

970
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 11: third time through the go round, and here he is

971
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 11: fighting for a roster spot once again. Last year, Shavers

972
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 11: was the star at running back in terms of guys

973
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 11: who were fighting for a spot on the fifty three.

974
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 11: Consistent enough to do it a second year in a

975
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Speaker 11: row and prove I have what it takes to be

976
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 11: a part of this group. And just kind of reflecting

977
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Speaker 11: as I'm kind of thinking about who is going to

978
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Speaker 11: be a part of this fifty three this year. Who

979
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 11: is going to be the last one in the wide

980
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 11: receivers room, I can convince myself that it's gonna be

981
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 11: Tyrrel Shavers. It's not hard to get there because of

982
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 11: what he's done for this team in the past, because

983
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 11: of probably how Joe Brady trusts him, and how his

984
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 11: teammates see the type of work ethic that he has.

985
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 11: This is a guy who has, you know, scratch, claw,

986
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 11: bite your way onto the roster, onto having you know,

987
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 11: a chance to make the roster, and then proving it

988
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 11: in the preseason with the grabs that he had against

989
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 11: the Giants and then against the Bears as well having

990
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 11: a good practice too in the joint practice against the Bears.

991
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 11: So it's gonna be an interesting couple of days leading

992
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 11: up to roster cuts on August twenty sixth to see

993
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 11: what is that room going to look like and then

994
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 11: figuring out why do they go with one player versus another?

995
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 11: Because there's the whole special teams conversation that you have

996
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 11: to have around this time of the year when you're

997
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 11: the last last one or two guys in to a

998
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 11: position group. It's what can you do for special teams

999
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 11: coordinator Chris Taber who has the upper hand. Is it

1000
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 11: Leviscus Chanal or is it Tyrrell Shavers If we're talking

1001
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 11: about both of those, Yeah, I think.

1002
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: On special teams it's probably Chanalt. He just does more,

1003
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 2: not only in the return game, but on coverage teams

1004
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 2: things like that. And you know, it's been interesting. They've

1005
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: tried to find a role for Shavers somewhere on special teams,

1006
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: but he's only been on a unit or two and

1007
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 2: Chanalt has kind of run the gamut there. So it's

1008
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: that's what I think makes this decision so difficult. And

1009
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: as Steve and I were discussing earlier, there's a second

1010
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: part of that equation too, because then it's a Chanult

1011
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: Codrington conversation, right, And.

1012
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: Do you make that if it's pretty dead even?

1013
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: Do you make that decision based on who you feel

1014
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: you can sneak on to the practice squad? And is

1015
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: that Codrington over Chanalt, who's probably less widely known than.

1016
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 3: Around ten, is not making it through the waver wire

1017
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: and neither one of them will get through.

1018
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't think Chanal, I don't know that. You know.

1019
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: Shavers is the one. You know, it's you're kind of

1020
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 3: rooting for Shavers. He's been here for so long, he's

1021
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: been languishing on the practice squad, and when he's gotten

1022
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: an opportunity, no matter what he's done in practice, you

1023
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: got it. Whatever the guy's done, he's a gamer because

1024
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: he shows up in these games. Ye, so if he

1025
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: doesn't practice well, and that's why he isn't like an

1026
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: established member of the wide receiver corps because they didn't practice. Well,

1027
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: the guy's a gamer and he's been around long enough

1028
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 3: now to prove it. Every time the guy is in

1029
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: the game, they're throwing it at him. But he played

1030
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: against the Chicago Bears. Well, everybody else was being protected

1031
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: and sat down for a reason.

1032
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that should not be lost on anybody.

1033
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: The other interesting comment that Joe Brady made was concerning

1034
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel when he was asked about him. And while

1035
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: I think there are some that believe Curtis Samuel could

1036
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: be on thin ice because of his lack of availability

1037
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: due to injury, listening to Joe Brady today, I'm pretty

1038
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: convinced he's on the roster based on his description of

1039
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: what he's done for this team, his familiarity with what

1040
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: he brings to the offense. It just sounded like there's

1041
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: this inherent dissumption that, well, we just got to get

1042
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: him back on the field and he's going to be

1043
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: right back to being on this roster. I could be

1044
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: overstating it, but to me, the way Joe Brady was talking,

1045
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: it sounds like Curtis Samuel is relatively safe short of

1046
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: some team coming in and bowling him over with a

1047
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: trade off.

1048
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 11: Right right, Brady seems like he's very familiar with Curtis

1049
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 11: Samuel as a wide receiver because they do have a

1050
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 11: pass together, and now back with the Bills, those two

1051
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 11: joined forces last season. You don't see as much as

1052
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 11: of Curtis Samuel last year because the injuries shows up

1053
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 11: in the playoffs and here he is missing a big

1054
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 11: part of the training camp and preseason. Now back on

1055
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 11: the field. The comments that Sean McDermott had about Curtis

1056
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 11: Samuel just a week ago when asked about what his

1057
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 11: status was, mcdermot's comments were very different than Joe Brady's comments,

1058
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 11: and you wonder if maybe a conversation happened between the

1059
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 11: two of them after McDermott made those comments, not just

1060
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 11: based off that conversation, but maybe based off Okay, this

1061
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 11: is what we've seen in Curtis Samuel the last two practices.

1062
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 11: This is what we thought about his practice against the Bears,

1063
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 11: this is what we thought about preseason, and we are

1064
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 11: now arriving at this conclusion that Samuel is safe on

1065
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 11: this roster. We want to dig deeper into that prior

1066
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 11: existing relationship that Brady and Samuel have when Samuel went

1067
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 11: off for career high numbers and a lot of statistical categories,

1068
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 11: and let's try and actually have that happen this season

1069
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 11: because Samuel is healthy at the current moment, or there's

1070
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 11: a difference.

1071
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: Of opinion there and it needs to be ironed out

1072
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: when the final roster's put together.

1073
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 11: Because you have to believe when these conversations are taking

1074
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 11: place about who is going to be on the final

1075
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 11: fifty three, there are going to be position coaches and

1076
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 11: members of the coaching staff who are fighting for their

1077
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 11: guys saying, no, I really believe he should be the

1078
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 11: last person in exposition group because this is what he

1079
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 11: offers to us, or this is what he offers to

1080
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Speaker 11: special teams, or this is how I see him growing

1081
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 11: this year. I see him being an asset. You're not

1082
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 11: going to have twenty coaches all agree on fifty three guys.

1083
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 11: There's going to be some tough conversations that happen over

1084
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 11: the next week and a half to get there.

1085
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: I think it's clearly the week I should say Rady

1086
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: is a Samuel Becker.

1087
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'll say this too, when you get into

1088
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: those meetings. A lot of it's going to have do

1089
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: with Chris Taber, a special teams coordinator. He's going to say, well,

1090
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: it's this guy over that guy, this guy helps me

1091
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: more than that guy, or I need more guys like

1092
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 3: this or whatever it used to be. That the head

1093
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: coach and the special teams coordinat I'll have a conversation

1094
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: and before the guy even takes the job, part of

1095
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: the interview process is like, who do I get as

1096
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: special teams coordinator? Who are you gonna give me? And

1097
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: the head coach will say, well, I'll give you the

1098
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: last guy at every defensive position group and the last

1099
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: guy of the big position group. On the offense. You

1100
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: can't have any of the skill guys, and you can't

1101
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: have any of the running backs or the tight ends

1102
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: you know, but I'll give you any the last offensive lineman,

1103
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: the last tight end, and last linebacker, last dB, last corner.

1104
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: You can have those guys to play to cover kicks,

1105
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: and I plus the kicker, punter, snapper or He'll say,

1106
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: you can have whoever you want, and you can use

1107
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: the roster however you want, and I'll back you up.

1108
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: So if you want a starter to play your special team.

1109
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 3: I'll try and help you get him, but there are

1110
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: gonna be some guys that are off limits.

1111
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: Other than that, What do you make of Coach Babbage's

1112
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: discussion when he was asked about Cole Bishop specifically and

1113
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: the safety position. What was your take there?

1114
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 11: I think the biggest, the most revealing thing that defensive

1115
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 11: cornator Bobby Babbage said about the safety position and the

1116
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 11: battle is his emphasis on playing why playing in space

1117
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 11: is so important for the defense. Babbage went into a

1118
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 11: history lesson on you know, free safety and strong safety

1119
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 11: and how it's not looked at the same anymore today

1120
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 11: because of these versatile defensive pieces and because of how

1121
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 11: offenses are played right now with different chess pieces that

1122
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 11: you can move around, the ability to have to match

1123
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 11: up with a lot of different body types, so that

1124
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 11: means you have to have more guys who can cover

1125
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 11: in space. I thought that was the most revealing piece

1126
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 11: that Babbage said. Now you put the clues together on okay,

1127
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 11: in terms of the safety battle, which one of these

1128
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 11: guys vying for the spot are the best in space?

1129
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that. I think that colebish is still

1130
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: front and center the guy they would like in that role.

1131
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: I think he just has to continue to demonstrate progress

1132
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: in his return from Adria.

1133
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 11: Aage McDermott both pointed out, so.

1134
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: I think they said he's making progress.

1135
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 11: And they could have said something differently, right, They could

1136
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 11: have said there's still a lot of work to be had,

1137
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 11: he's still figuring things out. I think it was important

1138
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 11: that both McDermott and Babbage said Cole Bishop is making progress, not.

1139
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: To mention the fact that I think people I guess

1140
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: they cover the team every day, media members, we tend

1141
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: to have a little bit of recency bias, and coaches

1142
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: do not. Coaches, when they're evaluating their roster, they take

1143
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 2: the full body of work, so they're not looking at

1144
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: day one of training camp to now. They're looking at

1145
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: first day of the offseason conditioning program until now. And

1146
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: Bishop came through that whole spring yes with flying colors

1147
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: and positioned himself to be in the run for the

1148
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: starting job along with Taylor Rap then he misses time.

1149
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: Now he's playing a little bit of ketchup, but it

1150
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: doesn't sound as though it's cost him the opportunity to

1151
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: still be that guy.

1152
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 11: I talked to Bishop too in the locker room after

1153
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 11: the Bears game, he had a bunch of reporters come

1154
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 11: up to him to talk through what happened in that game.

1155
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 11: Where there are parts that you were proud of, where

1156
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 11: there are parts that you weren't proud of. And obviously

1157
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 11: Bishop said, I have to do better in a lot

1158
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 11: of different ways. And that's time on task, that's being

1159
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 11: in more practices, that's having another preseason game on Saturday

1160
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 11: against Tampa Bay. I also asked Bishop, like, Okay, you

1161
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 11: missed all this time. We know that, but how does

1162
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 11: the time and the offseason that nobody saw that you

1163
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 11: two saw when him and Rap were repping together in

1164
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 11: the field house in the middle of the spring slash,

1165
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 11: you know, dead of winter in February. And Bishop said,

1166
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 11: you know, that's what people don't see. People don't see

1167
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 11: the amount of work that I put in with Taylor

1168
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 11: Rapp this offseason to get me to a point where

1169
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 11: I can improve. At this point in coming into preseason

1170
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 11: late here, Yeah, it'll.

1171
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: Be interesting to see how the depth shakes out. Even

1172
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: if Cole Bishop comes out, They're gonna start him. He's

1173
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 3: he's the better option he and Taylor Rapper on the field.

1174
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: The further they get down the road guys like and

1175
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: when Jordan Hancock comes back, he gets healthy with his shoulder,

1176
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: it does seem to be very serious. Hancock and all

1177
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: these other guys that are in that room. They're trying

1178
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: to develop too, and if if there's a moment where

1179
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: Jordan Hancock becomes a better option, they'll flip that switch.

1180
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: So well, this competition is going to go on throughout

1181
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: the years.

1182
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they're doing it in Week one against

1183
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I don't think it's just not their mo

1184
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: o to put a rookie in that spot. So I

1185
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: think Bishop's gonna have a little bit of an on

1186
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: ramp here. Provided he stays healthy and continues to make progress,

1187
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: he's probably the guy. And then and then how the

1188
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: first three or four games goes will determine whether he

1189
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: holds onto that spot, especially if someone like Hancock, who,

1190
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: by all indications in his time on the field, has

1191
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: been a playmaking type safety. I mean he's made more

1192
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: plays than anybody at the safety position in the preseason.

1193
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: Has anybody else made more plays than him? No that

1194
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: you've sat up and said, oh, well that's noticeable, right, No,

1195
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: But I think as a coach, you also recognize the

1196
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: fact that he's tremendously inexperienced. He doesn't have a lot

1197
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: of time in this defensive scheme, even though he says

1198
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: he feels comfortable. I know he told Maddy thought it

1199
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: was easy. Yes, that speaks to his confidence. I think so.

1200
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: And let's not forget the fact that he's also cross

1201
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: training at more than one position, which makes it harder

1202
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: for a rookie to be an experted one at either

1203
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: one quite frankly so. And now he's injured and he's

1204
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: off the field, which is another.

1205
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 11: Element also important to remember too. In the preseason, there's

1206
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 11: not much of a game plan in place for either

1207
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 11: side of the ball. So you're seeing Jordan Hancock's instincts

1208
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 11: right now in these preseason games. But how are we

1209
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 11: seeing him in Buffalo's defense? Are we seeing that comfortability?

1210
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 11: That's things that you probably see a little bit more

1211
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 11: in practice versus the preseason. And sure he's popped in

1212
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 11: in both areas, but as a rookie, you might be

1213
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 11: here today and then tomorrow is not a good day.

1214
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been going for like three years now, the

1215
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: roller coaster and revolving door. Even when Poyer and Hyde

1216
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: were here their last year and a half here. Neither

1217
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: one of them played with the everybody was in it.

1218
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: Everybody's been in and out of the lineup for three years,

1219
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 3: three years, Poyer and Hyde, we're rotating on it out.

1220
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: You're right.

1221
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 3: Don't forget Damar was only on the field on that

1222
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: Monday night because three guys went down. He was the

1223
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: last guy available who knew the defense and that you know,

1224
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: it's just been like that for three years. They haven't

1225
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: had two guys line up for a stretch of games

1226
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: side by side. Tell you than anything, Yeah, because none

1227
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: of them is healthy three years. So yeah, it's an

1228
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: old question. It's getting really tired, and I don't know

1229
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 3: that they're going to solve it coming out of this

1230
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: training camp.

1231
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, which rookie has kind of excited you the most

1232
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: from the draft class through the course of the preseason, Maddie,

1233
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: because there's been some bright spots there from the draft class.

1234
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 12: Yep.

1235
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 11: Hancock, I would say, is somebody most recently who is

1236
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 11: who I've been most excited with because of how he's

1237
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 11: come on in the latter half of camp. I would

1238
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 11: say in the preseason, somebody that I've been excited to

1239
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 11: see on the field throughout the beginning of training camp,

1240
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 11: and I've said this multiple times now is t J. Sanders.

1241
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 11: I think he has shown up consistently throughout camp and

1242
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 11: in the preseason as well. I think we've also had

1243
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 11: flashes of defensive tackle Dion Walker. I think there were

1244
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 11: bright spots for both of them in the preseason game

1245
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 11: against the Bear, and probably some plays that they want

1246
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 11: back as well. McDermott said after the game, you know,

1247
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 11: I didn't plan to play Walker and Sanders as long

1248
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 11: as I did, but we had to yes more more

1249
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 11: wear and tear there on them. But you're young and

1250
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 11: you get extra reps and extra snaps to work alongside,

1251
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 11: you know, your draft teammate in Dion Walker, and so

1252
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 11: I think that's positive for both of them. I do

1253
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 11: think both of them will play a role on this

1254
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 11: defense early and often. I think that's become very very obvious,

1255
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 11: not just in watching practice, but in how they're gelling

1256
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 11: with each other. Sanders seems very very comfortable in the

1257
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 11: defensive line unit. He's cracking jokes, he's making fun of

1258
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 11: at Oliver's age. I don't think you do that as

1259
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 11: a rookie unless you feel good about the place that

1260
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 11: you're in.

1261
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: He's a very gregarious person.

1262
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 3: And if you look at you look at the draft

1263
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: class this year, and as hard as this roster was

1264
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: to you know, crack into, you got Max Harrison's he's

1265
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: not going anywhere. He's gonna be on the squad.

1266
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 4: T J.

1267
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: Sanders, Landon Jackson, Dion Walker, Jordan Hancock, Jackson Hawes, all

1268
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: those guys. Look, they flashed all through camp. They've been

1269
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: a strong presence, and Dorian Strong has overachieved in some

1270
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: people's eyes.

1271
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't been perfect, but I think he has

1272
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 2: flashed as well.

1273
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: The only guy that he's been the.

1274
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: Beneficiary of a lot more reps with Harrison.

1275
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: Out, that's right. And also Kayden Prather is the only

1276
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 3: guy that really they kind of let him go. But

1277
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: that's a tough you know, it's a deep wide receiver room.

1278
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: But man, even Chase Lunt was played the entire game

1279
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 3: at guard against the Bears, which I don't know if

1280
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: that spells good things for him. But the first five

1281
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: or six picks of this draft, or seven picks, five

1282
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: picks anyway, really look good like they're going to be

1283
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: on this roster. And they're gonna be getting rotated in

1284
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 3: on a regular basis, particularly the you know same Walker

1285
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 3: Harrison remains to be seen. But you and I were

1286
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: talking about him from day one.

1287
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 11: I know I'm wondering when he's going to get brought

1288
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 11: back into the fold. I wish we got a better

1289
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 11: update from Sean McDermott yesterday about Harriston because the first

1290
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 11: thing he said was he's still a ways away and

1291
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 11: we're trying to figure out what can we do to

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Speaker 11: not push his injury. So I would have loved to

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Speaker 11: hear like, hey, we're starting to get him to work

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Speaker 11: out on the side or YadA YadA. McDermott did say

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Speaker 11: we're moving in the right direction here. But because of

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Speaker 11: this injury, when do we start to see Maxwell Harriston

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Speaker 11: in games? How long is that going to take? Where

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Speaker 11: is his comfortability level? Is it going to be Tredevius

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Speaker 11: White and Christian Benford through a lot of the season.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think a lot of people, just

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Speaker 2: for the sake of Buffalo's defense, are hoping when the

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Speaker 2: fifty three man roster is set next week that Harston

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Speaker 2: is on it for more than a day, because if

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Speaker 2: he's on it and then come Wednesday they I are him.

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Speaker 2: That means you're not seeing him for the first month

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 3: That may be a possibility.

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Speaker 2: I would not rule it out at all.

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Speaker 3: No, that may be possible.

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Speaker 2: Knowing how they like to air on the side of

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Speaker 2: caution number one. And it does the level of investment

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Speaker 2: that he is as a first round draft choice, and

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Speaker 2: then the way they on ram people back from injury

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: before they really let him go, you wonder if they

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Speaker 2: just say, hey, let's do this right and take a month.

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Speaker 3: That move makes a lot of sense because also it

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Speaker 3: removes the pressure off a Hairston totally. He can just

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Speaker 3: come back. He is not even allowed for the first month,

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Speaker 3: So now car the questions, the questions go away. All Yes,

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Speaker 3: you're right. It does leave you vulnerable outside in case

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Speaker 3: of an injury, you're gonna be You're gonna be down.

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Speaker 2: Dane Jackson strong.

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Speaker 3: But I think for Max, I think that's I almost

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Speaker 3: that's almost a given. That first month of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see if that happened. Maybe not

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Speaker 2: after the initial rosters set, what happens the next day,

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Speaker 2: because that's when some of the extra transactions happen. After

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Speaker 2: the initial roster you know, is put together. Maddie, thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us, getting us an update and some of

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Speaker 2: your thoughts there on the practice setting and comments from

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Speaker 2: the coaches. We appreciate it. That's team reporter Matti lab

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Speaker 2: joining us. We will take a break, get back to

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Speaker 2: your phone calls. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: Collide of Health.

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Speaker 10: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back here on one Bill's Live, first brown

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker. On Wednesday, practice is wrapped up for the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: and we are asking you at eight oh three, five

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01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: point fifty, how do you see the Bills wide receiver

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: group shaken out? Maybe you want to give us a

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01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: number as to how many you think they'll keep. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you want to give us your number five, five and six, guy,

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Speaker 2: let us know what you think. Eight o three, five fifty.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones. We go into Howard on a celle.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for his Howard?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, first time caller, Brownie. My favorite sportscasters of

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Speaker 12: all time is number one, Rick Jennerrett, number two Van Miller,

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 12: and you're right there number three. I really liked your

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 12: take on the game.

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Speaker 2: All right. I appreciate that and I will happily take third.

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Speaker 12: There, okay, And amusing story about Steve back in the nineties.

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Speaker 12: I was dating my wife in the early nineties, and

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 12: every time Tasker took the field, she's like, Oh, Steve

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01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 12: Tasker this and Steve Tasker that isn't he's so cute,

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01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 12: He's such a great player. I finally had to tell

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Speaker 12: her to shut up because I was sick of hearing it.

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 12: But I married her anyway, and we're still going strong

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 12: after all the years.

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Speaker 3: I'll go for you very nice.

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: See that she turned out to be a keeper after all?

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01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: What's that I said? She turned out to be a

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: keeper after all? There you go.

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Speaker 12: Yes he did yep, the first wide receivers goal. It

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 12: doesn't matter because we got number seventeen back there, and

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 12: the proof is last year and the reason is Josh Allen.

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Speaker 12: So I don't care who they throw out there. I

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Speaker 12: don't care how many or how few. He's going to

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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 12: find the open guy and this is all going to

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Speaker 12: be done, so no worries on my end.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, Thanks for the call, Howard, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen fixes a lot of problems.

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Speaker 2: He does, and not for nothing. I think has been

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Speaker 2: proven over the last few years, especially that he raises

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Speaker 2: the level of play for the guys around him. Also,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not an accident that Gabe Davis's best

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01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: football was played here. That's not by accident. You know.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what Stefan Diggs does in the two other

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: places since being here. He lasted only half a season

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Speaker 2: in Houston, so it's not a really fair sample size.

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Speaker 3: He was playing good up there for them, but he

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01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 3: was He blew his knee so.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't catching eight nine balls a game though. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and granted he was older, but still, Josh makes guys

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: raise their level of play because he puts them in

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Speaker 2: position to succeed. So yes, we tend to agree.

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Speaker 3: With you, Howard right, I would agree.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jerry out in Arizona. What's up, Jerry?

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Speaker 7: Not too much? How's everything you guys?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 13: Good?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I got me curious about something. I'd like to

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01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 7: ask you a question. And these are the all the

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 7: injuries during training camp. I remember years ago listening to

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Speaker 7: John Murphy on his radio show from training camp, and

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Speaker 7: one show he had Larry Falsterer, the late great commers

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Speaker 7: of the Buffalo News yep. And as he started the show,

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 7: Murph said to Larry's that he had been watching practice

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Speaker 7: while setting up for the show, and then he said,

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 7: I think I wrote more of a sweat than the players,

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01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 7: And Larry said, welcome to club, Marv. So I'm just curious, Steve,

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 7: especially for you. Can you compare the strenuousness, the hard

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 7: hitting in Mars camps compared to what McDermott does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had two practices a day. They both lasted

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: about an hour and a half or an hour and

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: forty five minutes at most. They were fast paced, but

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01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 3: they were non contact that we were in pads and everything,

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: but nobody took anybody to the ground one of them.

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 3: The afternoon practice was a throwing practice. The morning practice

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 3: was a running practice. They were not physical. In fact,

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 3: I remember in my career we had we signed Chris

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01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 3: Spielman from the Detroit Lions in the Great Lion played

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01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 3: well for us.

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Speaker 2: This is like that's like mid nineties.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 3: Tremendous player. But he was known as a physical guy,

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: big intense kind of hitter and that kind of thing.

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01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: So we, Marv, you know, were in the morning practice,

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01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: first day at training camp. Marv comes up. He says,

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: an hour and a half out there and stuff, and

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 3: we brings us uping, okay, guys, we'll see this afternoon,

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: you know, getting someone to So we start to walk

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01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: up and Chris Bulman goes what he goes, that's bs,

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? He goes, worry, that's it.

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01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: He didn't even get to hit anybody. He was mad.

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01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: It was like he was mad because you know, what

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: do we doing? So it's like yeah, so yeah, but.

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: It was it was what he probably didn't realize was

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01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean, at that point in time, you were a

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: well established team. Oh sure, your roster was littered with

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: veterans who knew what it takes. Marv clearly trusted the

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01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: balance of the roster to do the right thing. They

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01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: knew what their responsibilities were. So it was I'm not

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: going to say counterproductive, but it was not necessary to

1434
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 2: wrap the hell out of you guys who knew your

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01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: stuff inside and out.

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Speaker 3: By that, it was more of a fast practice rather

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01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 3: than a physical practice. And I mean that in like

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 3: we hurried to run the play, We ran that no

1439
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 3: huddle offense, and it was a fast paced, high speed,

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01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 3: high intensity practice. And then you were done. When you

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01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 3: got the work done, you were done the same thing

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01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: in the afternoons as well. And for that reason, guys

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 3: didn't get beat up. And I remember too, I was

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01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 3: at other places in Houston back in the mid eighties,

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01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you you about three days into a

1446
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 3: two week stretch of two a day practices padded, you

1447
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: were just trying to survive. Everybody was just trying to

1448
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: survive and nobody was trying to get better. That's the

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 3: difference now, the way it was with Marv and the

1450
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 3: way it is here now is Sean McDermott. Around the

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01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: National Football League generally speaking, guys are out there trying

1452
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 3: to get better. Nobody's trying to do or two a days.

1453
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 3: You're not there just to get through it. You're there

1454
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 3: to get better. They don't exist. You got to get

1455
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,759
Speaker 3: better so that you go out there for one practice,

1456
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: you hit it hard, you go hard, you practice hard,

1457
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,839
Speaker 3: you run hard, and then you're done.

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: And the other difference is too Steve teams. Steve's teams

1459
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: largely stayed the same year over year. You did not

1460
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: have the free agency turnover that you do now, So

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01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: practices have to be intense and at game speed because

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: you have to get the twenty five to thirty percent

1463
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: of your roster that is new that year acclimated to

1464
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: A how you practice B, how your system is run,

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: and run it at game speed. So that's why Sean

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01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: McDermott in year eight doesn't have his foot off the gas.

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01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 2: Because the roster turns over so much from one year

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01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 2: to the next, you have to keep it at that level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a completely different game now because there

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: is so much turnover, even for the good teams who

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01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: are trying to run. Yeah, I mean a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago and we've said that, I said this, this show,

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01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: this Bill's Office, let's try and run it back. Well,

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01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna run it back with like four new receivers

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01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: in the group. But that's like running it back because

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: the top two guys are going to be the same

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01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 3: in Shakir and Coleman. Everybody else is washed through, and

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01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: they're running it back with the same offensive line team,

1479
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: quarterback and largely the same tight ends and running backs.

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: That's running it back and with four new contributors a

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: wide receiver and that's a low number. That Yeah, that's

1482
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 3: low for most NFL out right. So you know this

1483
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: thing running back and people were like, going, you can't

1484
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: run it back. You keep getting beat by Kansy. You

1485
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: got a new said, listen, you try, you can't run

1486
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: it even if you want to run it back. It

1487
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: means you're getting twenty new guys on the roster. So

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's a completely different game than it was,

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01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: and it's hard to compare the days back when I

1490
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: back back when I played with the guys. Now in

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01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 3: this modern NFL where they got sports science, they got

1492
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 3: GPS tracking, exertion monitors, the whole thing. It's it's light

1493
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 3: years ahead of where we were.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Colin up in Toronto, ext what lf Colin?

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Speaker 4: How you doing? Guys?

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call?

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01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 8: You bet?

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 14: Two quick questions and sort of callouts one no concerns

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01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 14: it all over the receivers. I think actually this year's

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 14: receiving core last year is better. Palmer is a big,

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01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 14: big part of what I think they'll do this year.

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 14: Shakir is significantly better. Colman looks a lot better, and

1503
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 14: I expect big things at a Daltonton Cave this year.

1504
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 14: I think you know your three definitely that that step

1505
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 14: forward to there My concern with the Bills this year

1506
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 14: more than anything, and you know, taking away is the

1507
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 14: back end. You know, the corners in the safety, specifically

1508
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 14: the safety they do not look good now. Again, short

1509
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 14: sample site to look at, but you do not have

1510
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 14: a lot of experience at the back end, and right now,

1511
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 14: unless I see something different, Damar hanlin as you're starting

1512
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 14: free safety because Cole Bishop I don't think is ready

1513
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 14: to take that position and yet, and that to me

1514
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 14: is a problem. If you look at the other teams

1515
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 14: in the AFC, you know, obviously Baltimore being very getting

1516
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 14: very very good in the secondary albeit little bit old.

1517
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 14: Kansas City young guys last year were able to prove

1518
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 14: that they're worthy and they're getting better this year. The

1519
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 14: rest of that league and the ASC is getting better

1520
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 14: at the back end, and I just don't know right

1521
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 14: now with what I see, if we're going to be

1522
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 14: able to stop some of those powerhouse teams that we

1523
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 14: will see come playoffs. As long as you've got number seventeen,

1524
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 14: you've got a chance to win every Sunday, and that's

1525
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 14: the one thing that that sort of the equalizer. But

1526
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 14: my concern for this team this year and very specifically

1527
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 14: it's safety. It's like your guys' comments, and thanks for

1528
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 14: taking my call.

1529
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Colin.

1530
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a legitimate concern, absolutely, because it's a

1531
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: position that's right now, two weeks two and a half

1532
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: weeks away from the season opener, is in a state

1533
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: of flux do mainly to injury and mainly to the

1534
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: absence of Cole Bishop, who I think everybody had penciled in,

1535
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: including the coaching staff, to be Taylor Raps running mate.

1536
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: And it's an interesting point that you bring up, Colin,

1537
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 2: because you look at Baltimore's secondary they got veteran corners. Well,

1538
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: they have one veteran corner in Humphrey. The other corner

1539
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: is a former first round pick in Wiggins two years ago.

1540
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: He's in year three now. And your two safeties were

1541
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: first round draft choices, so one of them's a rookie

1542
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: and Malachi Starks, but he's a damn good player and

1543
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: a first round pick, so you know it's him And

1544
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: I want to say Bobby Taylor, and that's not right Hamilton,

1545
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: It's yeah, thank you. Kyle. Hamilton is the other safety

1546
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 2: who you know is a Pro Bowl player.

1547
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really good player.

1548
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: So that secondary. Yeah, it's significantly better than this one

1549
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 2: because you got first round picks back there.

1550
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 3: Three of the four first rounders. Was Bobby Humphrey a

1551
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 3: first round pick.

1552
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: I don't think he was. I don't know, but I

1553
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: can look it up. But I know starks Is Hamilton was,

1554
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: and so was Wiggins. So they got first rounders on

1555
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: their back end. Of course they're better.

1556
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 3: Right, And this Bill's defense in large measure through a

1557
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 3: lot of things at that side of the ball. All

1558
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 3: the draft picks.

1559
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: They rlonn Humphrey, not Bobby Humphrey, all the.

1560
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 3: All the draft picks they threw at it. The team,

1561
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 3: this free agent signings, they threw a lot of that

1562
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 3: at the defensive front, not the secondary. They did, you know,

1563
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: Max Harrison notwithstanding, but they have struggled, and I said it,

1564
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: it's been three years since they've had a healthy pair

1565
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 3: of safeties that lasted longer than a few games. Yeah,

1566
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: that's that's a problem.

1567
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey was the first round it's a problem. So

1568
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: the four starters in the secondary for the Ravens all

1569
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: first round picks, right, I mean, that's just you know,

1570
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,919
Speaker 2: it's just crazy.

1571
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm they and Baltimore is a good squad.

1572
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 3: I mean they're Yeah, they're they're really good. That's that's

1573
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: as good a team coming out of the gate as

1574
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 3: there is because of the way they run their offense.

1575
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: And you know, let's face it, they're looking at that

1576
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: game last year in Buffalo and they're thinking to themselves,

1577
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: they mistaked it away.

1578
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: Well, they had three turnovers, So I understand why they

1579
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: feel that way, not to mention it. Drop two point conversion.

1580
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they don't drop the two point conversion, that

1581
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: game's in O t and here we go. You know,

1582
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you never know who's going to come out

1583
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: on top. So he comes down to what a coin

1584
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: flip again, So it's a problem. They're a problem. And yeah,

1585
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: so comparing the Bills to that, you're you're not going

1586
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 3: to get that kind of production defensively out of this

1587
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 3: Bills roster. They're just not there yet.

1588
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we get back Tough

1589
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 2: and Buffalo will lead us off for our final segment.

1590
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 2: As we're how do you see the wide receiver group

1591
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: shaking out more of your phone calls? Next here on

1592
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, Stay with us all right back here

1593
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live Chris Ground Steve Tasker asking you

1594
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 2: how you see the Bill's wide receiver group shaking out

1595
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: back to the phones and too tough in Buffalo. What

1596
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: do you got for stuff? Hey?

1597
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 4: How you doing it?

1598
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: Good?

1599
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: Good? Good?

1600
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 13: Yeah, I ain't gonna front. A couple of days ago,

1601
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 13: I was sitting there daydreaming, like, man, if they could

1602
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 13: just bring back Davis and uh four team, man, we'd

1603
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 13: probably be nice. And then the next day I's you

1604
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 13: on the news, like Davis is there for you know,

1605
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 13: I think they should definitely sign him. It's gonna make

1606
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 13: it better because when he was here, we didn't have

1607
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 13: like certain weapons like cole min you know what I mean.

1608
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 13: I think it'll open up you know what I'm.

1609
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Saying, and opportunities for him.

1610
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

1611
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 6: Well.

1612
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 13: Also, I just want to comment on a defense also,

1613
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 13: like I don't got nothing against cole Bishop. But I

1614
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 13: don't know, man, I don't. I just don't see the fit.

1615
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 13: I don't know why to keep trying to pump him.

1616
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 13: He had a chance in the draft to get a

1617
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 13: big safety. No, I ain't gon Crod with spiel Milk,

1618
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 13: but I just don't see it with them. You know

1619
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 13: what I mean.

1620
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, they did get a guy that in the draft

1621
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 2: that can play safety, and his name's Jordan Hancock, and.

1622
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 13: So yeah, you know I've seen that.

1623
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see what happens there in the long term.

1624
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ready to overtake Bishop right now,

1625
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: but if Bishop can't stay on the field and stay healthy,

1626
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: that might change in due course. We do know that

1627
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: there's some news at a Ravens camp as quarterback Lamar

1628
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Jackson left practice forty minutes early with the strength and

1629
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: conditioning coach and team doctors trailing. He got knocked down

1630
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: during team portions of practice, stayed in for a few plays,

1631
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: but then when he left was flexing his hand and

1632
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: his wrist. So that'll be something to keep an eye

1633
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: on here going forward. You're still two and a half

1634
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: weeks from the opener, but the opener he's against the Bills.

1635
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes out of Ravens camp once

1636
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: they get Lamar Jackson checked out.

1637
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: I am not as high on them signing a guy

1638
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: like Gabe Davis, bringing Gabe Davis back as tough was

1639
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 3: the caller. Just now. I like the group they've got

1640
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 3: now Gabe was a great dude, and he brought a

1641
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 3: lot of things to the game, But I think the

1642
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 3: needs of this offense are different now than what Gabe brings.

1643
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 3: They got faster guys, they got better route runners now.

1644
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 3: Certainly Gabe's physicality was a plus, which is why they

1645
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 3: brought Mac Collins in last year. But I think Keon

1646
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 3: Coleman is a guy that does that as well. I

1647
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 3: think they're counting on him to do that. So I'm

1648
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 3: not as high on the need to bring Gabe back

1649
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: as everybody, as tough as the caller I know there are.

1650
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 3: We all liked him, but I don't know if there's

1651
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 3: room or a role for him like there was three

1652
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 3: years ago.

1653
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 2: Right And again, as I stated earlier, I don't think

1654
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 2: gabes one hundred percent healthy right now. So I think

1655
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 2: more of these free agent visits are more exploratory in

1656
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 2: nature on the part of the club. I think they're

1657
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: checking in to see what is your health status, what

1658
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: is your prognosis, maybe even get their own team doctor's

1659
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 2: hands on them to see what they think, to get

1660
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: their own opinion, and then, oh, you know what if

1661
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: we run into a rash of injuries, you know, you'll

1662
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: be a consideration or something to that effect. I think

1663
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: it's more exploratory in nature than imminent in terms of

1664
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: assigning not for nothing. Today, now that practice is done,

1665
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: we can tell you Curtis Samuel did participate in the

1666
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: team portions of practice, and according to our eyes that

1667
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: took in practice today, he had a couple of big

1668
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: plays in the passing game. So Curtis Samuel reinsert reinserting

1669
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:01,520
Speaker 2: himself into the lineup and reasserting himself as a playmaker.

1670
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: There's still stuff coming out of Baltimore about Lamar and

1671
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: it says he got his footsteps on. He's gonna be fine.

1672
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not a hand or a wrist thing.

1673
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: It was a foot thing. So they're just checking out

1674
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: his foot. So there it is. Doesn't look like it's

1675
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 2: much of anything. But we'll wait for official reports probably tomorrow.

1676
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: But nice to hear Curtis Samuel getting involved in the

1677
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,839
Speaker 2: passing game right off the rip. And I'm very curious

1678
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 2: to see if they even have him take the field,

1679
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: presumably without other starters on the field. I don't think

1680
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: he will be out there either. And again, they take

1681
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: it put a lot of value in what happens in

1682
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: practice because of the competitive setting that we've discussed here today.

1683
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 2: That's about it for Steve and I today. Tomorrow is

1684
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: our last show of the week because Steve and I

1685
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: will be traveling to Tampa on Friday. But we're here

1686
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: tomorrow at one, so be sure to join us. Then,

1687
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: to your last chance this week, get your calls in

1688
01:29:55,240 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 2: while they're hot.