Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets
Speaker 1: are on sale now to see me on tour, the
Speaker 1: Prince of Christmas Tour, that is, I'm doing my whole
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Speaker 1: with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www
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Speaker 1: city near you.
Speaker 2: And now Lost Cult drums look mare, Oh, I see
Speaker 2: you my own and look over there is that culture? Yes? Yes, wah,
Speaker 2: Lost Culture.
Speaker 3: Sing don last culturistas calling tactile is fuck coctile eff.
Speaker 2: I've been smiling and beaming all day. I woke up
Speaker 2: with a giggle. Oh my gosh, I sort of left
Speaker 2: out of bed, and then I looked at myself in
Speaker 2: the mirror, and then I immediately got sad because I
Speaker 2: think I'm actually developing a sty blufferitis.
Speaker 3: No, it's if you develop a sty you just nip
Speaker 3: it in the butt and you put rice in a sock,
Speaker 3: you put in the microwave for thirty seconds and then
Speaker 3: you just warm.
Speaker 2: Is that there? Are all right? Good? I was all
Speaker 2: nervous today because so I literally was so excited for this.
Speaker 2: I got a facial. Yesterday, I got a facial for
Speaker 2: the episode. Oh fun. I went to the Equinox Spot
Speaker 2: and Hotel. I love ten Yards really the best area
Speaker 2: of New York. Remember when I was looking for an
Speaker 2: apartment in Hudson Yards. I don't think I gave you
Speaker 2: any guph for it. I was like, if that's for
Speaker 2: Matt's happiest Matt belongs at the theme park of New
Speaker 2: York City all And this is what I wanted to
Speaker 2: tell you, Yeah, are you what do you?
Speaker 3: How do you feel about Rockefeller Center making a real
Speaker 3: play at being the only real technical zoned theme park
Speaker 3: in New York because that's what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2: As the Prince of Rockefeller Center, I actually have to say,
Speaker 2: we actually are the royal court of Rockefeller Center. If
Speaker 2: you think about it, we're the gestures in the court.
Speaker 2: So as a representative of the zone, I couldn't be
Speaker 2: prouder of my sisters who are making that place a
Speaker 2: theme park. They really are.
Speaker 3: It's ticketed rides, you got to strap on a seatbelt.
Speaker 2: You know. I've gone to the top ye in Rockefeller
Speaker 2: Center and like go on the beam and it spins around.
Speaker 2: It's very thrilling. You would love it? I think not
Speaker 2: yet though?
Speaker 4: Is that my cue?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, never mind, don't worry. So if you sort
Speaker 2: of just like heard the voice, no, come.
Speaker 5: On, I just need you to stay.
Speaker 2: You got it? How would you like me this way?
Speaker 2: You actually meaning to your right, which you feel natural?
Speaker 2: Can we go touch to our lefte? Yeah? Yeah, guy,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, just the tiniest mean, I'm getting a lot.
Speaker 2: So what do you want me to do?
Speaker 3: I just need you to yes, of course, so much perfect.
Speaker 4: No, it's okay. I'm really glad.
Speaker 5: It's that and not what I thought it was.
Speaker 4: She was coming in like we gotta get out of here.
Speaker 4: Come on, un coat came in and I was like,
Speaker 4: something's happening.
Speaker 2: You had the energy of like it's an emergency.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, that was emergency energy.
Speaker 3: The way the hair moved was urgent, gorgeous. It was scary,
Speaker 3: excited and scared.
Speaker 2: Here we go. No, we're back. We're using all of it.
Speaker 2: We're using all of it is being used and I
Speaker 2: won't even.
Speaker 3: The part where I got a little snippy. It was like,
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot.
Speaker 2: What do you want to know? Honestly? Like that's authenticity. Moment.
Speaker 2: And that's why people love Lost cults with Matt Rogers
Speaker 2: and bowing, because this is a real ass show. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and that was a real moment. And here's what I
Speaker 2: really want to say. You've said the theme park thing.
Speaker 2: Do you know how I spent my morning. I've been
Speaker 2: thinking about the Wicked theme park ride all day. I've
Speaker 2: seen the film, and I want to unveil, like what
Speaker 2: I think the experience of the theme park ride at
Speaker 2: and at the Universe, at the Universe. Put it in
Speaker 2: between there's a spot for it. You put it in
Speaker 2: between Super Nintendo World and the Dark Universe. I thought
Speaker 2: that's a perfect meeting for Wicked. It's Emerald City, slash
Speaker 2: Oz whatever they want to do. And I can't wait
Speaker 2: to pitch to our guest my idea for the theme
Speaker 2: park ride, the story of it. Okay, because I know
Speaker 2: we're with one of the true girlies. We're with one
Speaker 2: of the true Floridian girlies. Let's bring her in. Talk
Speaker 2: about your pal. She literally saved my life. If I can't.
Speaker 3: Even look at you, fucking love you. She's the legend.
Speaker 3: She's playing Glinda in Wicked Part one, maybe part two.
Speaker 3: She's playing Glinda. You'll have to wait to see what
Speaker 3: happens at the end of Act one. Does the character die?
Speaker 2: Who knows the imagine the twist of like they killed
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they really took a swing. That sucks.
Speaker 2: We loved her performance in the first if the Munchkins
Speaker 2: in munchkin Land. It's like a dark Wicked, Like the Dark.
Speaker 2: Our guest is a singular talent and icon. I mean,
Speaker 2: I am a fan. I've always been a fan. This
Speaker 2: is surreal. I can't believe she's here. I mean Eternal
Speaker 2: Sunshine one of the albums of the year, like to
Speaker 2: say nothing of everything else she's ever put out. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't believe this is happening. It's the film of
Speaker 2: the year, Wicked, and this guest you're about to welcome
Speaker 2: into your ears is the one, the fucking only.
Speaker 5: C Yeah, I've attempted to do been every third sentence.
Speaker 5: That's sort of so sorry, I know, but it's just
Speaker 5: been so tempting.
Speaker 3: We really work our guests up and then and then
Speaker 3: they chime in and then they're ready to go.
Speaker 5: Okay, soy, pitt, Hi, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: This is a blessing and a half and three quarters
Speaker 2: know this is perfection. Okay, do you want to know
Speaker 2: the Wicked theme park ride?
Speaker 4: Tell me now?
Speaker 2: Because you want this to happen.
Speaker 4: Of course I do, and I have ideas as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's collab. I think you go to like
Speaker 2: it's not it's the Emerald City and the vibe is
Speaker 2: like Glinda Live Today is going to address everyone, the
Speaker 2: Aussians like, it's like we're all going already taking It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: so it's.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about what when we're gonna have to shoot that?
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, you'll figure it out.
Speaker 5: I think about that sometimes, you know, shooting.
Speaker 2: Like the theme park roll.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shooting like you know Hermione being like don't forget
Speaker 4: to wear your seat belts. Yeah, you know that that vibe.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like are they still doing that? They
Speaker 2: to go out to like d Radcliffe and're on a
Speaker 2: contract and they're locked into something. Can you do your
Speaker 2: Hermione impression? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: Wrong?
Speaker 2: That been spleech All right, Sprange there is what is that?
Speaker 5: No you call?
Speaker 2: I know the vocal phrase, it's so good local what
Speaker 2: the fray? Oh my god?
Speaker 5: I love it so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, So Glinda is it today, Glinda is address today,
Speaker 3: Glinda live like it's you and then like we as
Speaker 3: the guests coming in are going to like see the
Speaker 3: speech and then something is like happening.
Speaker 2: So this takes place between Wicked one and two.
Speaker 3: Okay, so in that that's fun.
Speaker 2: Like so it's like we believe that Alphaba's like like
Speaker 2: there's signs that are like get the witch, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, and then like we get in
Speaker 2: the ride and I don't know that they like the
Speaker 2: rest of this, but like that's the setup and like
Speaker 2: you are like get ready to speak, and then there's
Speaker 2: like weather Weather Steve start to move. We think it's Alpha,
Speaker 2: but but we know it's.
Speaker 4: More of Michelle going yeah, yes, don't let her get
Speaker 4: her way.
Speaker 5: If that's the best shot on the whole thing.
Speaker 4: When she turns and the monkeys go, oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's the best shot of any movie I've ever seen
Speaker 4: in my life. She's so hot, she's so beautiful and
Speaker 4: regal and powerful.
Speaker 2: And when she goes Wicked Witch.
Speaker 5: Yes, what a choice to get quiet Wicked Witch.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love's brilliant. I've seen it. I'm blown away
Speaker 2: by the movie. And it's just like you guys, just
Speaker 2: to leave the fake world of the theme park right now,
Speaker 2: like we'll figure it out like t K t K
Speaker 2: theme park ride. The very real film is so brilliant
Speaker 2: and like you know it, you know it. You Wickeds
Speaker 2: is a film about Fanny. He's a gay boy. He's
Speaker 2: a gay boy who wants to make it big in
Speaker 2: the world, right yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He knows that the media landscape of oz is not
Speaker 3: ready for a very homophobic city homophobic.
Speaker 4: The best video in the world, if you rehearsing it,
Speaker 4: is that it's been in my drafts for two years
Speaker 4: of him his little pink like cap over your hair
Speaker 4: because weren't ready to film yet with your little clips
Speaker 4: in and he's like half in wardrobe, half in like
Speaker 4: some cute like bowen thing, and he's just like what
Speaker 4: did he say? Wait what matamor will say? Mustn't get
Speaker 4: all right? Fine, I'm gay? Z be the most interesting
Speaker 4: thing about Yeah, I've watched it three hundred times.
Speaker 3: How do we feel about the original person who read
Speaker 3: for Fanny at the table read for Wicked? It was
Speaker 3: something Foster? What have I desecraated Sutton's name?
Speaker 2: Wait? No, what are you talking to like in.
Speaker 3: The original sort of like tailor d for Wicked, before
Speaker 3: any of the shows, any of the whatever, any of
Speaker 3: the Sutton Foster. They had Dina and they had Kristien,
Speaker 3: but then they had Sutton Foster as Fanny.
Speaker 2: Fanny.
Speaker 4: That is the most important thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: That is so spectacular, like two thousand and one, or
Speaker 4: did I not know that.
Speaker 3: I didn't know this either until people like we're sending
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I mean she's going to be so floored and proud
Speaker 4: and absolutely.
Speaker 2: You could run. And I've been saying it's brilliant in
Speaker 2: this film. I mean he lights up, He lights up
Speaker 2: my life every time you come on the street. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, in a word, period, just.
Speaker 5: So incredibly brilliant.
Speaker 4: And I also just want like a string out of
Speaker 4: everything you said, because I just I really do.
Speaker 5: I want to string out. Let's bring string outs.
Speaker 4: I love string I want to string out of everything
Speaker 4: he said on that Setee I got to see last night,
Speaker 4: Cynthia and I went to go do like watch along
Speaker 4: and make commentaries.
Speaker 2: Oh fun.
Speaker 5: But while we were there, they showed us deleted scenes.
Speaker 5: Oh and I got to see I've been through.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, talk about that.
Speaker 3: So they did a spoiler alert. They did cut the
Speaker 3: scene where Glinda meets Fanny and sheenshin again.
Speaker 4: But it's very cute and you will get to see it.
Speaker 5: Oh really, you will get to see it's coming out because.
Speaker 2: I want to see it. But that was my one notice.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, who are are?
Speaker 4: We kind of just made it all up, kind of
Speaker 4: just like John was like, all right, you guys meet here,
Speaker 4: uh huh, and maybe you do a little you know,
Speaker 4: and we were like, perfect, we'll do it. And so
Speaker 4: we did the weird dance thing whatever it was.
Speaker 2: We did the weird dance thing.
Speaker 5: And then I, oh, how are you guys really?
Speaker 3: And yeah, so so aria is. Glinda goes, so, how
Speaker 3: are it's been so long? How are you guys really?
Speaker 3: And then I for some reason made a choice to
Speaker 3: go I've I've been.
Speaker 4: Through, and we said I've been through for two years.
Speaker 3: After that, I've been through and then and the other
Speaker 3: with the other phrase was I have had I.
Speaker 2: Have had candle.
Speaker 4: Scandal, I have I have, I've been through, I've.
Speaker 2: I've been through.
Speaker 5: Which I've been through I've been through is not it.
Speaker 4: I've been through.
Speaker 5: I've been through, just I've been through and we just
Speaker 5: all collapsed. It was so ticklish, it was so funny.
Speaker 2: There was the coolest waitress I used to waitress with
Speaker 2: would always say, oh my god, that person is so
Speaker 2: and never ever said the word after.
Speaker 4: That's the safe thing to do, very safe.
Speaker 2: You know how she was so?
Speaker 5: And then you get to you know.
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, it's an invitation for more projection.
Speaker 2: It protects and projects.
Speaker 4: Yes, it protects and protects. Wait, but you I've been
Speaker 4: through is so funny to me because that's like minute
Speaker 4: three of the film.
Speaker 2: It's too much. It's so funny.
Speaker 3: I understand why it's cut because it makes no tonal
Speaker 3: sense with the rest of the film.
Speaker 4: This it lives on its own, but in the most
Speaker 4: brilliant way, the same way that I don't see color
Speaker 4: lives on its own.
Speaker 3: Do we think do we think that that comes to I.
Speaker 4: Know, it's so funny and it's so brilliant. And it
Speaker 4: also was like, yeah, we're commenting on what we're commenting
Speaker 4: on in this film. It's actually the most brilliant comedic
Speaker 4: way of saying, yeah, that's what this is about.
Speaker 2: I can't believe.
Speaker 3: I find it miraculous that that stayed in the final
Speaker 3: It's the best.
Speaker 4: I was hoping and praying. I had literally my fingers
Speaker 4: and Toest Cross that was sitting in the audience watching
Speaker 4: for the very first time, and I literally John Chu
Speaker 4: was sitting right next to me that he was like,
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yes, I was like, thank God, thank goodness.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Bowen Yang ad libs in the final cut.
Speaker 3: You guys, there's something terrible about an ad lib that
Speaker 3: you do on suck because you're with like a friend
Speaker 3: and you're disarmed and you're you're being stupid, and then
Speaker 3: you see it and then you go, well, fuck, a
Speaker 3: good jillion people are gonna watch me do this stupid.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of feelings about it as well,
Speaker 4: and it you know totally. It's like once you once
Speaker 4: you leave the set and you're like, the fuck did
Speaker 4: we just.
Speaker 2: Want to that's what we filmed?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: I hope anything's okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 5: I feel like a blacked out for two years and
Speaker 5: now I'm like.
Speaker 2: Oh, right now the people are come in, come on,
Speaker 2: are going to sit there and be like, we have
Speaker 2: a lot of feelings about what this has always been
Speaker 2: to us, and now this is the film which is.
Speaker 4: Such a beautiful which is such a beautiful blessing and
Speaker 4: responsibility to have as people who also love it and
Speaker 4: have lived for this for twenty years. I have done
Speaker 4: the research, like read the L. Frank baumb books and
Speaker 4: and done their homework and have lived it and loved it.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's such a beautiful celebration and we welcome,
Speaker 4: we welcome the feelings.
Speaker 2: We wasn't the feelings.
Speaker 4: I'm a fangirl with those feelings about the things I
Speaker 4: love totally.
Speaker 3: Of course, to quote the show, I ask you a question,
Speaker 3: what is this feeling now for you? Like so sudden
Speaker 3: and new, So sudden and new, it was like two
Speaker 3: years of your life where you were like monastic, You
Speaker 3: were a monk being like I'm gonna be so disciplined
Speaker 3: about this, and now I feel like it happened yesterday,
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, we're like, oh fuck,
Speaker 3: we have to like in a way like relive what
Speaker 3: happened and then also like package it into a way
Speaker 3: that like feels good for a sound bite, right.
Speaker 4: And promote and sell the thing. And it's just like
Speaker 4: it takes this transition from being this intimate, really real
Speaker 4: feeling thing to us talking about it like it's a product.
Speaker 4: And it's a very strange shift. But I'm really trying
Speaker 4: to hold onto the humanness of it all and kind
Speaker 4: of just like let that be what we talk about
Speaker 4: because it's so exciting to.
Speaker 5: Be able to talk about it. So it doesn't feel
Speaker 5: like a press tour.
Speaker 4: The way it has maybe when I was doing it
Speaker 4: for music or something like that, because it feels, I
Speaker 4: don't know, it feels a different for a million reasons.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do you know.
Speaker 3: What we kept saying when we shot it was like
Speaker 3: it feels like we're shooting a little dye.
Speaker 5: A little student film, a student.
Speaker 2: Film, right, Like all of a sudden, there's like a mark, Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm stepping on tape to do it, Like it's never
Speaker 2: been done like this before, and yet we're committing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That wall broke when there was like a man
Speaker 4: on a hang glider with a camera in the sky
Speaker 4: and they said like Daily Mail on a parachute. We
Speaker 4: were like, oh, oh shit, yes, oh sure, sure, oh it's.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, So someone flew in to try to get
Speaker 2: like footage people. I actually saw it on Twitter, and
Speaker 2: I was like wait what there was like literally like
Speaker 2: hundreds of yards away, like yes, I think you could
Speaker 2: hear you doing your like color torah.
Speaker 5: That was one of the rehearsals.
Speaker 4: And they were like all the way across the water
Speaker 4: there was a little like river pond thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was a body of water.
Speaker 4: One thing about Ariana, she knows her bodies of water.
Speaker 2: She knows.
Speaker 5: Yes, she'll talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will.
Speaker 4: Across the way there was across the brook, over the brook. Yes,
Speaker 4: there was a ladder. There was there was a guy
Speaker 4: with a.
Speaker 2: Cat, said a flying gay guy with the camera from there,
Speaker 2: We need you for the shot. Damn it. It was
Speaker 2: a guy.
Speaker 3: It was a guy standing a drone. It was a
Speaker 3: guy standing a drone up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But my favorite thing about it was like I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm easy, peasy. I was like, oh, it's you know whatever,
Speaker 4: if Mark doesn't have a problem with it, or John
Speaker 4: is okay, like I'm going to just like do my job.
Speaker 5: I'll ignore it and I'll block it out, blinders on whatever.
Speaker 4: But like you know, a lot of people were concerned
Speaker 4: because it's a big deal, you know, for that to
Speaker 4: come out before it's supposed to come out, but no one.
Speaker 5: Really cared.
Speaker 2: What are they going to do exactly?
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, totally. I mean I think
Speaker 4: I heard that there's people and I think I just
Speaker 4: saw saw some stuff and they were like, oh, well
Speaker 4: from the top, and I was like, oh, that's amazing,
Speaker 4: that's really cool. I was like, if you don't care,
Speaker 4: I don't care exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, freeing, and we love and we bless the people
Speaker 3: who's concern and job it is to like make sure
Speaker 3: things are like secure and safe and like that. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: but sometimes it is like other people kind of like
Speaker 3: working you up right into thinking that it's a huge
Speaker 3: problem when you're like when deep down like in your person,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, it's fine, Like I'll just keep doing
Speaker 3: what I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we were all kept very safe and like
Speaker 4: there was never any sort of like danger in that way.
Speaker 4: And there's only so much you can do when we're
Speaker 4: shooting on these like massive outdoor sets. Yeah, so instead
Speaker 4: of having everyone stressed about it and become like anxious,
Speaker 4: like you said, and you know, if there wasn't anything
Speaker 4: that we could do, we just start to have fun
Speaker 4: with it. Like when the drones would come me and
Speaker 4: the munchkins would be like hello, and then I started
Speaker 4: like taking my want and be like okay, that's enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to make it fun, but you.
Speaker 2: Know, crazy, when did this happen? Like when did you
Speaker 2: guys know it was friendship and not just like a colleague.
Speaker 2: I enjoy I mean I.
Speaker 4: Was so so over the moon excited that you were
Speaker 4: going to be able to see it.
Speaker 5: I called Lauren, is that okay?
Speaker 3: That I almost like, you're comfortable?
Speaker 4: Well, because I knew that it was a huge, massive
Speaker 4: ask and also probably an impossible one, and I didn't
Speaker 4: have anything any sort of resolution to pitch him, but
Speaker 4: I just called him and I was like, hi, lone,
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, how are you? And he was like, Warrior,
Speaker 4: is there anyway? Is there anyway? And I was that
Speaker 4: was the most nervous I've ever been.
Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, we made it work.
Speaker 2: He made it work.
Speaker 5: You made it work.
Speaker 4: You exhausted yourself and worked yourself to the bone.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: It's the only time that I've ever pulled like a
Speaker 3: poudy face in front of him to be like I
Speaker 3: really want to do this. And then he was like okay, okay, we'll.
Speaker 2: Do that again. Because it was cute as fuck.
Speaker 3: I was like, I really want to do this, and
Speaker 3: then I did.
Speaker 2: I basically did.
Speaker 4: It was really tough. Would you put yourself through?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: You were amazing regrets And I think the answer to
Speaker 4: the question is the minute you got there, I was
Speaker 4: just kind of like, oh my goodness. I hope that
Speaker 4: he is having the same experience that I'm having because I, like,
Speaker 4: I really want to be friends.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It was a star shower when I saw you when
Speaker 3: we met for the first stars the stars exploded. It
Speaker 3: was at Leavesden. We're doing rehearsals. Yes, and then I
Speaker 3: remember like I was in my little room. I was
Speaker 3: reading a book and then you came in and no,
Speaker 3: it was so perfect.
Speaker 4: I was too excited.
Speaker 2: No, you weren't.
Speaker 3: Cynthia came in and gave me brothers and she was
Speaker 3: so fucking sweet. I'll never forget it. And then and
Speaker 3: then you came in and then like it was like
Speaker 3: I just like it was a meteor shower around you,
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is so fun. I think
Speaker 3: the moment that it was like friends, I think was
Speaker 3: when we watched Mommy Dearest together and then VHS.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Ari loves you.
Speaker 3: Guys don't totally align on this. But Ari is a
Speaker 3: huge horror freak.
Speaker 2: Oh you're a horror freak, I am.
Speaker 4: And the way.
Speaker 2: You said that is a huge horror That sounds bad.
Speaker 4: No great, I've heard a lot worse. But yeah, no
Speaker 4: that's lovely. Thank your kindness, a mass of kindness. Thank you.
Speaker 2: What's your horror pick? What's what's the best horror film?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I really like what.
Speaker 3: Give it? And you loved v AHS And I'm just
Speaker 3: thinking because I watched Smile last night alone in my
Speaker 3: apartment two or one Smile one because I want to smile.
Speaker 4: To smile, I would go tonight, let's go as soon
Speaker 4: as we can.
Speaker 2: Wish and how would you?
Speaker 4: How did you feel?
Speaker 2: It was? Disturb it?
Speaker 4: It's a good one, really good one.
Speaker 3: I do Socie Bacon love so so she is a talent.
Speaker 3: She's a talent. But god, that ending is crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a lot.
Speaker 4: So I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 5: I love heart Wait apparently well, because.
Speaker 2: Apparently Smell too also ends in a way that you're.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, let's go, let's go. You don't like those I.
Speaker 2: Get really anxious, upset, scared out, frustrated, and I got you,
Speaker 2: you got me, You're protect me out there. You know
Speaker 2: what I do do though? What haunted house? And we
Speaker 2: just did the sickest talk about this. We were truly
Speaker 2: in the woods in Pennsylvania. Were in Pennsylvania, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so Studie Bowen and I went just to like get
Speaker 2: a little fall moment. It was like an unassuming haunted house,
Speaker 2: like it's like, oh, this is like in the middle
Speaker 2: of nowhere.
Speaker 4: It's not going to be like those are the ones,
Speaker 4: Those are the ones, are the ones, Those are the ones.
Speaker 2: Because there wasn't that many people there, which meant the
Speaker 2: groups when you're traveling through were small. It's not like
Speaker 2: Halloween Harry Knights where it's like you've just signed.
Speaker 4: You just signed like waivers and stuff.
Speaker 5: So we did what I'm saying, That's.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
Speaker 5: When there's no waivers, all bets are off.
Speaker 2: But usually usually though if they touch you, you're supposed
Speaker 2: to have signed a waiver. We were getting really harangued
Speaker 2: by these people and I loved every secondment.
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. There's no waiver in place,
Speaker 4: so they really cane Wi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were in the wild Poconos. That
Speaker 2: the craziest what the house you can think of? I
Speaker 2: want to go now. It was what fortnutes long? How
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 3: I swear to God, no breaks, no breaks, relentless horror.
Speaker 4: Did that take up?
Speaker 5: It was a big was it like a two mile yeah?
Speaker 3: Big big footprint, like a compound. Basically it was we
Speaker 3: stayed at this resort and and like the guys like
Speaker 3: as they bring in, they're like, okay, guys, so it's
Speaker 3: a bunch of actors, but like they're just doing their jobs.
Speaker 2: So those people work in the kitchen at the resort.
Speaker 3: They said, like, these people were in the kitchen, so
Speaker 3: it's like los so we we were like, okay, so
Speaker 3: it's loose steaks, not at all.
Speaker 2: It was insane.
Speaker 4: Well they're letting it out.
Speaker 2: They're letting it out, they're letting it out. Oh, the
Speaker 2: screams were not safe. Let's just say they came from here.
Speaker 2: Like it was like a woman flying out of a corner,
Speaker 2: Like like what it was you, I'll do it. It
Speaker 2: was like this. It was like, get out.
Speaker 4: I love screaming.
Speaker 2: The only way you can respond to that is with
Speaker 2: a scream at that level yourself. So we were just like, a.
Speaker 4: Right, I love when you scream.
Speaker 3: How do you feel as the professional, celebrated vocalist.
Speaker 2: What is your sure you? Is this?
Speaker 1: That is?
Speaker 4: I needed that?
Speaker 3: What is your opinion on screaming? Because some people it's
Speaker 3: a device?
Speaker 2: How do you scream like that? Like that? Wait for
Speaker 2: that to have happened in the second way, By the way,
Speaker 2: we saw how she screamed, and it's like this. Oh
Speaker 2: it was giving the soft palette. Yes, she cleans up
Speaker 2: her own eyes. Look, everybody, Oh, I loved getting my god.
Speaker 2: What is your opinion on screaming?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Listen, you're a Halloween horror Nights and something. She kind
Speaker 2: of did it social.
Speaker 5: No, that's not my, that's not my that's not that
Speaker 5: I think it's.
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to do it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I'd like to. I'd like to, I'd like to, please,
Speaker 4: thank you. No, I'd like to.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think it depends on the context.
Speaker 4: But screaming is weird because sometimes I guess I subconsciously
Speaker 4: scream in a healthy way because sometimes after I scream,
Speaker 4: like there were several scenes in Wicked where there's lots
Speaker 4: of screaming, and I was like, oh my, I love screaming.
Speaker 5: But afterwards I felt like warmed up or something.
Speaker 4: So maybe I subconsciously scream healthily, but I actually don't
Speaker 4: know that I intentionally. Yeah, I mean like there are
Speaker 4: ways to do it, but I don't think it's something
Speaker 4: I choose when in fear totally?
Speaker 3: Does this inspire or motivate you to do a horror movie?
Speaker 4: Like? Well, you know, it depends on the context, depends
Speaker 4: on the script. I'm not like a gore for the
Speaker 4: sake of gore personally. And I also like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I want I would want to do a great job.
Speaker 4: I want to do an incredible job. So it really
Speaker 4: depends if I could lend myself to the character in
Speaker 4: a way that I felt would be really purposeful and great.
Speaker 5: Yeah then sure, but you know, I'm a project.
Speaker 4: But I like horror that is thoughtful, Yeah, thoughtful, not
Speaker 4: just blood.
Speaker 3: For fun totally? What would you categorize BHL blood for fun?
Speaker 2: Blood for fun? Would you categorize VHS as? I don't
Speaker 2: have to talk about it really, right?
Speaker 5: How did I make you watch that?
Speaker 3: Because you were being a good friend and I was
Speaker 3: going through a hard time.
Speaker 4: But that's it's like not the thing to watch when
Speaker 4: you're going through hot time. It's so anxious to it
Speaker 4: was cathartic. Did you feel better afterwards? You sure weren't
Speaker 4: thinking about whatever you came there thinking period.
Speaker 3: And also we did really scary. We didn't enjoy that.
Speaker 3: We did not that we didn't enjoy the whole thing,
Speaker 3: but we did not stick with it because that's at
Speaker 3: a certain point I've.
Speaker 4: Never seen the whole thing. Yeah, I just VHS because
Speaker 4: it's vignettes, and I love the first vignette because this
Speaker 4: like fierce goblin woman like rips seven dicks off and
Speaker 4: flies you're goin.
Speaker 5: She's just like it's.
Speaker 4: Really cool splits and she's gorgeous and cool and like kills.
Speaker 2: Are you going to see the substance?
Speaker 4: I am going to see this. I'm dying to see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard it incredible. Everyone I'm talking to that's
Speaker 2: seeing is like, I can't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 5: I need to see it. Yeah, I'm really excited.
Speaker 3: Se October thirty first on movie, but that's.
Speaker 5: Not my favorite horror film.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, that's going to like lead people
Speaker 4: to think I really I don't know. Would you like
Speaker 4: to have a favorite Would I like to address this problem?
Speaker 4: What's your favorite heartor film?
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge I don't know it too well.
Speaker 3: I'm not very literate, but I think I'm going to say,
Speaker 3: oh God, recently I really.
Speaker 2: Did love Are you gonna say what?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, not the Hills have Eyes, No girl, no way.
Speaker 2: Not that the one that was it was like the
Speaker 2: demon came out of her head, the one that was
Speaker 2: on HBO mad. You know what I'm saying, magnant. Didn't
Speaker 2: you love Malignant? I didn't seem like malignant? What was
Speaker 2: the other one?
Speaker 4: It's such a joyfully chaotic it's crazy.
Speaker 2: See I appreciate complete insanity back when I was watching them,
Speaker 2: like if it would get completely absurd, Like I loved
Speaker 2: saw the first song.
Speaker 4: Right because it's so brilliant.
Speaker 2: It's brilliant, brilliant, the way it comes together in the montage.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I didn't know I
Speaker 2: was watching art.
Speaker 4: I can endure that much gore. If it's that smart,
Speaker 4: If it's that smart, I love it so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to switch gears, I really have to apologize
Speaker 3: to you in person for what I opened my mouth
Speaker 3: up too much.
Speaker 2: When we kissed on.
Speaker 4: You absolutely did. I was shaking no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: not in a bad way, not a bad way, in
Speaker 4: just like a disarming way, because you know what, like
Speaker 4: the recursis was so good. Oh my gosh, thank you.
Speaker 4: I mean it comes from a.
Speaker 2: Real place, you know it does.
Speaker 3: But I kissed you too too much, you know what.
Speaker 5: That's okay, And I know we were really dropped in.
Speaker 4: We were dropped in, dropped in and it felt like
Speaker 4: what these people needed at that time. It felt like
Speaker 4: what these characters.
Speaker 2: It was motivated required.
Speaker 5: Yeah a little, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: I just should we talk about like how we arrived
Speaker 3: at because there was not a kiss originally.
Speaker 4: Right, No, there wasn't a kid, which was well that
Speaker 4: here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Go where you go?
Speaker 1: You go?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I when we rehearsed it a little,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, in my head, I was like,
Speaker 4: I didn't say thing because I like, oh, everyone's to
Speaker 4: think I'm absolutely insane and too comfortable. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: funny if we kissed at the end, and then Bowen
Speaker 4: texts me a few hours later, I was like, it's
Speaker 4: totally fine. This is way too crazy. But we were
Speaker 4: talking and thought it would be so funny if we
Speaker 4: kissed at the end, and I was like, wow, what
Speaker 4: if we kiss.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like wow, I was thinking that. I'm
Speaker 5: so sorry.
Speaker 2: We're immediately on board. Yes, So do you rehearse it?
Speaker 2: Do you do it in dress? Or like? What's because
Speaker 2: I always feel like with rehearsing a kissing, Oh it's
Speaker 2: I've only had to do it a few times, but
Speaker 2: it's like the rehearsal of it is like are we
Speaker 2: doing it? Like what is it?
Speaker 4: It's like, shit, are we reading for real? This time?
Speaker 4: We kissing this time?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 2: So what was it?
Speaker 4: We kissed in the dress rehearsal.
Speaker 2: We kissed in the rehearsal, but in me and I will.
Speaker 4: Admit we had a very grown up conversation about it,
Speaker 4: said we're doing it or not?
Speaker 3: We did have a grown up conversation just like that,
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 4: Talking about how she comes out.
Speaker 2: Or not.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I also, I think in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 3: I was maybe a little over eager because to run
Speaker 3: through on Saturday. So so on Saturdays in the afternoons,
Speaker 3: I go, I go. I was like, so should we
Speaker 3: do it? I did say do you want to do
Speaker 3: it for run through? I said, I phrased it in
Speaker 3: like a leading way of like should we and you
Speaker 3: were like.
Speaker 2: Shall we kiss?
Speaker 4: I feel like, well, because there was we talked about
Speaker 4: maybe waiting till the real thing, just just to like
Speaker 4: sween it and see how it was. And I was like,
Speaker 4: let it be on the live you know, but then
Speaker 4: we were like, no, let's let's be adult. Lets rehearse
Speaker 4: it just so we know how it feels, not have
Speaker 4: that surprise on live television.
Speaker 2: And so your take on it and just talk to
Speaker 2: me as so his mouth was a little too open.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's it came from him, not for me.
Speaker 2: But you you acknowledge you said you absolutely did open.
Speaker 4: It was absolutely to open.
Speaker 2: It was a little open chemistry.
Speaker 4: But for the characters, I think it was perfectly open.
Speaker 2: I would agree. I was watching it and I'm thinking I.
Speaker 5: Did start shaking giggling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you got it absolutely. I broke.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is yeah.
Speaker 2: I always seemed incredibly purposeful and motivated, and it felt incredible.
Speaker 4: As long as that's how it felt for the audience, Yes,
Speaker 4: it's all good. Here.
Speaker 2: Have you ever told beef here.
Speaker 4: It's official.
Speaker 2: I'm happy we put into bad.
Speaker 4: Thank you me too.
Speaker 3: Can we quickly brief about how a sen was for you?
Speaker 3: Because that was that was a top tier, a plus,
Speaker 3: all time perfect episode.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: That's it really was.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I had the time of my life. I would have
Speaker 5: done it right after we finished at one am. Again, like,
Speaker 5: I really love being there.
Speaker 4: I love every single person there, Like I just had
Speaker 4: the loveliest best time with everyone.
Speaker 5: And I love laughing, I love comedy, I love bits.
Speaker 2: You're so good at it. Thanks and also you can
Speaker 2: take it leads from a joy that you have to
Speaker 2: do it and like a motivation to like work hard
Speaker 2: and get it right. And I also can't believe you've
Speaker 2: only hosted twice. You give the energy of someone that's
Speaker 2: been there, and again it throws like how good JT
Speaker 2: worth the show back in the day of like you know,
Speaker 2: coming in, Like what do you think it is that
Speaker 2: prepares you to do something like Saturday Night Live? So well, Oh.
Speaker 4: My gosh, I don't know. I mean that's really nice.
Speaker 4: I think I find like a comfortability and getting to
Speaker 4: know everyone.
Speaker 5: I love getting to know people.
Speaker 4: When I come to a place, I want to like
Speaker 4: befriend everyone and be open. And when you're meeting all
Speaker 4: the writers and collaborating with everyone, everyone is super just
Speaker 4: kind of open and talk about where you can go,
Speaker 4: like trying things and whatever. It just is a really
Speaker 4: safe and fun experience. I don't know, it's like constant,
Speaker 4: but it's the best and it's so much fun. And
Speaker 4: I think I just love comedy, So maybe that is
Speaker 4: like why I was so excited to go, and I
Speaker 4: felt very excited. I think when it comes to doing big,
Speaker 4: exciting things, sometimes you know, it can become like a scary,
Speaker 4: daunting thing. But if you hold on to excitement and
Speaker 4: gratitude and let that like fuel the whole experience, it
Speaker 4: can really change the tone of everything.
Speaker 5: It's something I like learned.
Speaker 4: In my late twenties. But no, I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: just it felt really.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, rock confort.
Speaker 4: Texting with Bowen constantly having having a literal best friend there,
Speaker 4: and in the weeks leading up, I felt like I
Speaker 4: was bothering you because I was it's my turn to
Speaker 4: apologize now. I felt like I was. I felt like
Speaker 4: I was blowing you up because I I couldn't stop
Speaker 4: like texting insane like ideas for bits and like silly,
Speaker 4: silly things, and I was just so excited to get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why I think when you're excited about people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it shows I don't know almost.
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's like and with Wicked too, and
Speaker 2: I was just gonna like pose it that maybe like
Speaker 2: when you get the audition for Glinda, right, that has
Speaker 2: to be a thing where you're like, holy fuck, Like
Speaker 2: it's something I've thought about for a very long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it's one of those roles that's going to be
Speaker 2: someone's going to get it and it's going to feel like, yes,
Speaker 2: incredible that person, but like a little part of you
Speaker 2: is like, oh God. And so when you get that audition,
Speaker 2: I wonder is it all just like joy and like
Speaker 2: how do you approach the comedy of something that's so
Speaker 2: iconically done and like you respect but you bring yourself
Speaker 2: to it because you do do.
Speaker 4: That, Yes, thank you. I think it's kind of like
Speaker 4: it was one of the most important parts to me
Speaker 4: was finding that balance between like honoring the iconic Glinda
Speaker 4: that we have had on our on the soundtrack for
Speaker 4: twenty one years and the role that was like written
Speaker 4: really by Winnie Holtzman and Kristin Chennaw with like, you know,
Speaker 4: honoring what made it so iconic, which is like the
Speaker 4: original material and you know people, while also.
Speaker 5: Kind of like bringing myself to it.
Speaker 4: And it's interesting because knowing something and being a fan
Speaker 4: of something for such a long time is very different
Speaker 4: than having to become it and sort of take it on.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I mean a lot of just
Speaker 4: like trying and playing and reading the script one hundred
Speaker 4: times fully through even before the audition, like not the
Speaker 4: movie one, the Broadway one, so that sort of you know,
Speaker 4: choices of my own could come through, and finding new
Speaker 4: truth to little beats and moments that play differently on
Speaker 4: stage because this isn't the stage show. And finding that
Speaker 4: balance was of course the most important thing because I
Speaker 4: know as a fan of it how important it is
Speaker 4: to walk that line. And that's really all you can
Speaker 4: do is the homework and also trial and play. I
Speaker 4: have my amazing acting coach, Nancy Banks. You know, we
Speaker 4: did a lot of playing and grounding my vocal placement
Speaker 4: and even finding like okay, like what inflection, how far
Speaker 4: do we want to go with it? And older vocal
Speaker 4: versus younger Glinda vocals and the tonal shift when she's
Speaker 4: young versus when she's old, and.
Speaker 2: You know, incredible playing in that regard to like, I
Speaker 2: have to say one of my favorite things about the
Speaker 2: movie just holistically, and I think it's so funny that
Speaker 2: you guys didn't chemistry test because the chemistry is two
Speaker 2: is just nuts. And one of my favorite things about
Speaker 2: a vocal choice in that movie is that Cynthia is
Speaker 2: like singing her whole part very clean until you get
Speaker 2: that note and it has so much gut in it.
Speaker 6: Well it is a war cry, yes, and that that
Speaker 6: like ends it, and you know that everything has changed
Speaker 6: in the way that note is sung and that intentionality.
Speaker 4: Is just brilliant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was in the room. I got to be there.
Speaker 2: When she actually like was doing it, Like you mean
Speaker 2: the studio you had to hear.
Speaker 4: Her singifying gravity. I mean I was there when we
Speaker 4: cheated the rehearsal tracks. Yeah, but you know I was
Speaker 4: also on set when she was flying above me singing.
Speaker 3: You know, you had to wit and you had to
Speaker 3: be there to witness it. And also just like this
Speaker 3: is not a spoiler, but it does cut to Golinda
Speaker 3: pretty frequently during that moment, and I think the way
Speaker 3: because you have an impossible thing to do in that moment,
Speaker 3: which is just to like internally project that outward as
Speaker 3: everything in your world and your circumstances changing, Like even
Speaker 3: hearing you just talk about the prep and the consideration
Speaker 3: that went into this, like you have the most expansive
Speaker 3: knowledge of this character, and like, thank God it's you
Speaker 3: because you're like rising to every occasion with it, like
Speaker 3: you rose to the audition obviously in such a storied way.
Speaker 3: Like I love the lore behind it now that people
Speaker 3: know about and I just know, Yeah, it's fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: You know that the movie is like about you forget sometimes,
Speaker 2: like especially seeing it now in the way that you
Speaker 2: guys have like made it brand new, like you really
Speaker 2: remember what it's about. And it's about like speaking truth
Speaker 2: to power and how hard that is. Yeah, and what
Speaker 2: your character is going through. What Glinda is going through
Speaker 2: at the end of at least this movie, is she's
Speaker 2: not able to be strong enough yet to really be
Speaker 2: a face of like dissent and rebellion, Like she's seeing
Speaker 2: a truth and she's it's like the journey that you
Speaker 2: have to go through there of like I know what's right,
Speaker 2: but I'm just not there.
Speaker 4: It's also just like a different I mean yes, but
Speaker 4: also there's a different version of that, which is that
Speaker 4: she is strong enough to know that she will never
Speaker 4: choose that because she can't she doesn't have the tools,
Speaker 4: and she knows what is important to her.
Speaker 5: Yes, And it's.
Speaker 4: Like it's not that she's not ready to do that,
Speaker 4: it's just that she's not a person who's going to
Speaker 4: do that. And having the strength to know that the past,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, annoying. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: No, I'm so curious about what you're No, it's.
Speaker 4: It's just like emotional because it's like, of course it's
Speaker 4: acting and I'm not gonna you know whatever.
Speaker 5: We hit our marks and we do our thing and we.
Speaker 4: Sing our songs and we do what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: But it really felt so real, and it feels how
Speaker 4: it feels in real life when you really love someone,
Speaker 4: but the paths that you need to take for your
Speaker 4: own truth and life and who you are, it's like
Speaker 4: you can't actually you can't actually continue growing together. You're
Speaker 4: growing apart, and you can still love that person, So
Speaker 4: much and acknowledge that that's going to be best for them,
Speaker 4: but it's not going to be best for me. So
Speaker 4: I do have to not self abandon in this moment,
Speaker 4: and I have to stay where I am and I
Speaker 4: want you to go there, but I can't do you.
Speaker 4: So I think it's certainty. I think she's really sure
Speaker 4: in that moment, and I think that that's strength.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: God, I don't think that it's that she's not strong
Speaker 4: enough to go. I think that she's strong enough to
Speaker 4: not go right.
Speaker 3: Because there were This is not to switch gears, but
Speaker 3: like there were so many moments. There was one moment.
Speaker 3: I think it was during that I've Been Through I've
Speaker 3: been through. It was during the I've Been Through scene
Speaker 3: where like we were just like ad libbing and like
Speaker 3: I was, I forgot what I pitched you, but I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, maybe like we do want to dance
Speaker 3: from S cool and like I don't know, Like I
Speaker 3: pitched you a line and then you you looked me
Speaker 3: in the eyes and this is done with such love
Speaker 3: and care in respect. I pitched you like a stupid
Speaker 3: fucking line of like like we do like an accent
Speaker 3: or something, and then you just look at you looking
Speaker 3: dead in.
Speaker 2: The NiFe, and you go, I'm not gonna do that?
Speaker 4: Did I?
Speaker 2: Really? It was so funny.
Speaker 3: We were dying laughing because I was like, of course,
Speaker 3: I was like, it was like, this is me playing
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 2: With my friend.
Speaker 3: I was like, she's gonna do She's playing Glinda and
Speaker 3: the Wicked movie.
Speaker 2: I can't tell her. I can't tell her to do bits.
Speaker 4: Well, yes you can, but literally we always tell always,
Speaker 4: we always.
Speaker 2: We always did that.
Speaker 3: But at that point, it was like, you know, four
Speaker 3: months in the Strawberry Bush, the strawberry Bush broke.
Speaker 4: Me and John can't find it, but I've been I've
Speaker 4: been anxious to see it forever.
Speaker 3: So in the scene when it's Dyloman's classroom and he's
Speaker 3: in Leman's getting the lecture about like the history and
Speaker 3: like what happened and right, food, food grew scarce and
Speaker 3: people were angry, and then what's the line, like what.
Speaker 4: Do people people were looking for? And she's like something
Speaker 4: to someone and then something to whatever.
Speaker 5: But there's one about food.
Speaker 3: There's one about yes, yeah, yeah, yes, the Great Famine
Speaker 3: occurred and people and people wanted to people were were
Speaker 3: very peven.
Speaker 5: We're looking for something to.
Speaker 3: People were looking. Angry people look for and then and
Speaker 3: then Alphaba says someone to blame.
Speaker 2: But then it was on our coverage on our character
Speaker 2: reached out of me, Bronwin and you. We did an
Speaker 2: a lib.
Speaker 3: It was like and and because he mentioned the famine,
Speaker 3: and then what do angry people do?
Speaker 2: What do people try to find? I'm that I'm.
Speaker 4: Literally he said, like a strawberry bush and smacked him, laughing.
Speaker 4: I literally strawberry's my paper because it was hell. It
Speaker 4: was so good. I wish I wish it.
Speaker 2: Were somewhere, find it, find it, strawberry.
Speaker 4: Strawberry bush was incredible. And also so was when NASA
Speaker 4: flies up in the in the sky scream. I know
Speaker 4: that's your scream, and that's your scream, and everything is
Speaker 4: flying around and things are falling and the thing falls
Speaker 4: on the ground.
Speaker 2: I know how it was the best time.
Speaker 5: It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 2: Before we ask you the question that it's the central
Speaker 2: question of this podcast, I also want to say one
Speaker 2: other thing, which is that this scene of the year
Speaker 2: for me is dancing through life when she comes into
Speaker 2: the Osta sport. Yeah, and that that moment, Wow, can
Speaker 2: you talk about shooting that, Yeah, like, what what was
Speaker 2: that experience?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I love, first of all, I love
Speaker 4: the little shot of her peeking around the corner like
Speaker 4: with her little hat and she's so excited and whatever.
Speaker 4: But it's just it's hard to describe because how it
Speaker 4: feels to watch picture that a solid twelve hours of
Speaker 4: that that particular section. The main bulk of it was
Speaker 4: like one and a half days, but it was like
Speaker 4: one and a half days of utter pin drop silence,
Speaker 4: and every single person in the room was absolutely just
Speaker 4: right there with Cynthia and kind of holding a very
Speaker 4: warm space, you know, for how much she was giving
Speaker 4: the whole time. And it's such an isolating and painful scene,
Speaker 4: you know, and even if you're acting, you know, it's
Speaker 4: just like it's such a heartbreaking feeling. And I had
Speaker 4: such flutters and butterflies that whole day, and it's just
Speaker 4: like holding space for her and then having this guilt
Speaker 4: and this realization that I'm responsible for this, and just
Speaker 4: sort of like looking at a friend and trying to
Speaker 4: course correct it just so much. It was a really
Speaker 4: intense day and I feel the same feelings when I
Speaker 4: watch it back that I did in the room on
Speaker 4: the day, Like, yeah, it was. It was a really
Speaker 4: intense day and she's so beautiful in it. And I
Speaker 4: just remember at the end of like the twelve hour
Speaker 4: me and Mark and John all just like took her
Speaker 4: aside and we were like and yeah, it was just
Speaker 4: a very very very powerful, emotional day and she did
Speaker 4: such beautiful work and everyone just held the safest of
Speaker 4: spaces for her. And yeah, I like feel it when
Speaker 4: I watch it back, certain scenes, like when they start happening,
Speaker 4: my body has like a physical reaction, like when she
Speaker 4: peaks around that corner, I like get anxious for what
Speaker 4: I know is going to happen because I know how
Speaker 4: it felt on the day, and I think that's a
Speaker 4: sign of what beautiful work was done, because I feel
Speaker 4: like when you watch it back, you feel how it
Speaker 4: felt in.
Speaker 3: The room, and it's a wonderful reminder that you were
Speaker 3: so dropped in and present in that in that span
Speaker 3: of time, which was a very long time. And I say,
Speaker 3: I say four days because it was like with all
Speaker 3: yours stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, yes, with the dancing and stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about this parting about.
Speaker 2: The loneliness of that Cynthia is going through up I'm gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, have this dancing moment and everyone's watching it
Speaker 2: being like, what's happening, and it's your realization that like,
Speaker 2: this is a human being who I've heard and now
Speaker 2: I'm going to show up for her. And the really
Speaker 2: wordless connection that you guys foster in that moment is
Speaker 2: so beautiful and everyone's gonna love the movie so much, obviously,
Speaker 2: so so.
Speaker 4: So unfathomably spectacular, so great.
Speaker 5: The choreography.
Speaker 4: I actually, even though we rehearsed it like once or
Speaker 4: twice before that day, said I never learned it. Like
Speaker 4: I didn't want to remember it because I just literally
Speaker 4: wanted to be like following her hands and like letting
Speaker 4: her lead the way, because I felt like the more
Speaker 4: awkward it looks on Glinda, like the more beautiful it
Speaker 4: can be. You know, we're both just like little like
Speaker 4: wild deer greeting each other and trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how to speak the same language. And it's so beautifully awkward,
Speaker 4: and I love it very much. It's very I loved
Speaker 4: her very much.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's a ride.
Speaker 4: This movie. Going from that into popular is such a ride,
Speaker 4: and then back again and then back again, and you.
Speaker 5: Know it's just like it's it's a wild ride.
Speaker 3: The popular is everything.
Speaker 5: I want to thank.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Wait, can I just share one more of
Speaker 4: my favorite memories from the Osdas Ballroom. Yes, other than
Speaker 4: the fun stuff that we did, the dancing and everything
Speaker 4: in the osdesk, we had so much fun in the
Speaker 4: It really was like a week there, really was.
Speaker 5: It was a week, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they gave us these like universal iPhones for
Speaker 4: behind the scenes stuff. It was actually only one and
Speaker 4: I think you and you and Bronwyn had.
Speaker 3: It for that whole week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I just remember the vibe that
Speaker 4: day and and you both being like not no time,
Speaker 4: like you know, like this is intense and everyone's like like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're at the dance is happening, Like no, we're not.
Speaker 4: It's not the day actually.
Speaker 2: For that, And I'm so excited. Biggest today is that.
Speaker 3: We're about to group bully Cynthia Rivo For three days straight.
Speaker 3: I was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: They were like, are you guys getting fun stuff?
Speaker 5: And it was like no, no, no, not today. In fact,
Speaker 5: not today.
Speaker 3: It was like universal social media people doing their job.
Speaker 2: Give it being so commed. Not because it also is
Speaker 2: a little bit of your characters, like because your character
Speaker 2: doesn't get it. And by the way your your you
Speaker 2: play a really good natural bully. You really say your coverage.
Speaker 4: In the ass. I remember I got to sit behind
Speaker 4: the monitor and watch you and bron Win experience that,
Speaker 4: and it was just so beautiful.
Speaker 5: You too are so brilliantly hilarious.
Speaker 4: But also just everything was so palpable, the shift, the
Speaker 4: it was so funny and so beautiful.
Speaker 5: And I love to have I have an iPhone video
Speaker 5: that whole take if.
Speaker 1: You like it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because you had the it was the
Speaker 2: univers my personal one.
Speaker 4: I filmed everything that happened from the whole tears.
Speaker 2: That was against the rules, but I'm very honest. You
Speaker 2: would say, he sent me some videos from the set. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what can I say? Yeah, well, it's over going to
Speaker 2: do edit you out. Oh I hope not.
Speaker 3: I perished the thought, but I not to place myself
Speaker 3: in that moment, in that scene, that very intense scene,
Speaker 3: but like I kind of feel a degree of that
Speaker 3: same thing where I watched it back and I was like, god,
Speaker 3: I feel like absolute hit because even in doing it,
Speaker 3: because acting is acting whenever, but even in like bullying
Speaker 3: Cynthia throughout this movie, Like, there were so many times
Speaker 3: where I went up to her and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. This feels so rotted in my soul
Speaker 3: to treat you this way. I think it's just a
Speaker 3: testament to like the way she's being so completely raw
Speaker 3: and beautiful and vulnerable in every frame of this. And God,
Speaker 3: you're both. You couldn't ask for two better people to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 4: That's beautiful and good.
Speaker 2: Let's asking the question.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry, what is the Why are you apologizing.
Speaker 4: Because I did?
Speaker 5: I'm taking us miles back. No, I still have so
Speaker 5: much more to say about everything.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. We got to talk about What's
Speaker 2: the one question, the one question that we have to
Speaker 2: ask you is what was the culture that made you
Speaker 2: say culture was for you? If you can look back
Speaker 2: in your life and you think Ari Grande became Ari
Speaker 2: Grande as a result of this, influenced this thing in
Speaker 2: pop culture, this moment, whatever it is, can you speak
Speaker 2: on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think musical theater.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I think Sherry Renice.
Speaker 4: God, Wow, my answer, I love that answer.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 5: I mean I loved the soundtrack.
Speaker 4: I was really little. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I actually I saw it with Tony Braxton, but oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 4: Were no, but I saw I saw her dirty rotten scoundrel,
Speaker 4: and I remember being like, that's life changes. Yes, to
Speaker 4: see she's the best in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at someone doing musical theater at a
Speaker 2: level like that and you're like, oh, well, I'm watching
Speaker 2: the most talented person on earth.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean her and Kristen and Sutton Foster and
Speaker 4: just these like ladies who I grew up just listening
Speaker 4: on repeat and just like my musical theater goddesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Does it feel like yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: And I guess my question for you is like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm watching Wicked and I had that feeling of like, well,
Speaker 2: she needs to act more. But then also at the
Speaker 2: same time, it's like you are probably the most like
Speaker 2: just important, gifted, like relevant pop artists. No, but let
Speaker 2: me say it because I believe it. And then I'm
Speaker 2: then you're like, does Broadway fit into that, Like is
Speaker 2: it something that would make sense for you? And is
Speaker 2: it in your heart to actually go to the stage
Speaker 2: and do that?
Speaker 5: It's it is my heart, you know.
Speaker 4: It is like I'm going to say something so scary
Speaker 4: it's going to scare the absolute shit out of my
Speaker 4: fans and everyone, but I love them and they'll deal,
Speaker 4: and we'll be here forever. I'm always going to make music.
Speaker 4: I'm always going to go on stage. I'm always going
Speaker 4: to do pop stuff. I Pinky Pram. But I don't
Speaker 4: think doing it at the rate that I've been doing
Speaker 4: it for the past ten years is where I see
Speaker 4: the next ten years. I think I love acting, I
Speaker 4: love musical theater. I think reconnecting with this part of
Speaker 4: myself who started in musical theater and who loves comedy,
Speaker 4: and it heals me to do that, finding roles to
Speaker 4: use these parts of myself, you know, and put them
Speaker 4: in little homes and characters and bits and bass and
Speaker 4: songs like it really does in a different way than
Speaker 4: songwriting and writing about my own pain, because it's just
Speaker 4: kind of like constantly reliving that one thing that you
Speaker 4: wrote the song about, or that is, you know, and
Speaker 4: finding a character and putting the pieces there, finding it
Speaker 4: a homes for them there, and then them coming back
Speaker 4: and feeding you and teaching you new things through performing
Speaker 4: the act of being Glinda. Whatever you know, and taking
Speaker 4: pieces from her back. It really feeds you. And I
Speaker 4: think that I would love to and whatever makes sense
Speaker 4: or whatever roles that we see fit or where I
Speaker 4: could really do a good job or honor the material,
Speaker 4: I would really love to because I think I think
Speaker 4: it's a lot better for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, but I want you to know,
Speaker 2: like when and I've been listening to I listened to
Speaker 2: you all the time, but like so many of my
Speaker 2: favorite songs of yours, I can tell are unbearable for
Speaker 2: you to put out there, Like I listened to I
Speaker 2: won't even say the song title. I mean, I imagine,
Speaker 2: I mean like I hated you, Like I had such
Speaker 2: an experience, and I have my own theories about like
Speaker 2: what we can't be friends is. But I think the
Speaker 2: video like is something that spoke to I know, me
Speaker 2: personally and so many people in such a visceral way.
Speaker 2: And there's that moment in the video, which by the way,
Speaker 2: is the video video and everyone knows it. So there's
Speaker 2: that moment where you hesitate in the process of having
Speaker 2: your memories removed, and you're it's like I don't want
Speaker 2: to let go. I'm actually uneasy, Like maybe my pain
Speaker 2: is really important. And if I lose that, like where
Speaker 2: am I going next? Like it's scary. And I think
Speaker 2: that that's such a specific thing to get across, but
Speaker 2: like has to be painful to literally fixate on the
Speaker 2: idea of eternal sunshine, because the idea is that we
Speaker 2: want to we feel this way, we want to create
Speaker 2: something called eternal sunshine because we're fixating on wanting to
Speaker 2: remove those emotions, right and yet here we are literally
Speaker 2: performing them. And I think that you're so sensitive and
Speaker 2: such a you know what, you could say, cancer vibes
Speaker 2: or whatever, but like you're so in tune to your
Speaker 2: work and you're so giving of yourself that it has
Speaker 2: to feel fucking exhausting. And so if you have other
Speaker 2: talents and other like interests, like I get that I
Speaker 2: love you back.
Speaker 4: That was such a thoughtful parade of like thoughtfulness, I
Speaker 4: love you thinks I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear.
Speaker 3: You that he's got the thoughtful thoughtfulness.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, but talking but no, I guess what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is like the thing is, I'm not even asking you
Speaker 4: a question.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just acknowledging and seeing and I want
Speaker 2: you to know that as your fan, like we just
Speaker 2: want you to feed yourself and like do what makes
Speaker 2: you feel good and evolve, and you are evolving like
Speaker 2: like in this movie. Like I'm telling you, like Noma
Speaker 2: are gonna cry, Like I just feel like it's so
Speaker 2: amazing to see someone do something that were born to do,
Speaker 2: like and I don't know, I've always felt like, especially
Speaker 2: because you've been such a good sister to my sister,
Speaker 2: I just like I want you to be happy and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, oh my god. Okay, I feel like
Speaker 2: I feel you know, you're just but this is like
Speaker 2: what you do. You're such an available, open, emotional person
Speaker 2: and I deeply.
Speaker 4: We're for taking the risk. I think my chair is
Speaker 4: like cemented to the ground.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay. That remind me of when I did
Speaker 2: Celebrity Will of Fortune with Paula Abduel. She's so small
Speaker 2: that she she would do the wheel and that we
Speaker 2: would take. She's in the middle and like I'm here,
Speaker 2: like this is Faula. She goes all right, here we
Speaker 2: go away and like her leg went up.
Speaker 4: Can I just thank you for saying that, just because
Speaker 4: it was so incredibly kind and I really appreciate it,
Speaker 4: and I am going to carry it with me. Art
Speaker 4: also is what feeds me, So in whatever capacity it is,
Speaker 4: I'll always be doing and creating six different things at once.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's just I don't see that going anywhere. I just
Speaker 4: see it kind of like shifting and becoming a little different.
Speaker 2: My chapters, you know what I mean. Like there's I'm
Speaker 2: thankful to you for Positions because that was my album
Speaker 2: for the Pandemic and I'll look you in the eyes
Speaker 2: and oh my god, I'm telling you, there's not a
Speaker 2: better piece. But like, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 4: It was beautiful, the characters needed it, but yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: That's such a funny thing the life cycle that album
Speaker 4: is taken, because when it came out, it was kind
Speaker 4: of like.
Speaker 2: It didn't go so well in a soft way. Whereas
Speaker 2: that think you there had been such moments or do
Speaker 2: you no, no.
Speaker 5: No, no, not even like that.
Speaker 4: I just mean as far as like what my fans
Speaker 4: were saying, and like I feel like in the beginning
Speaker 4: of the Positions of it all, like it kind of
Speaker 4: was I got a little I'm not going to like
Speaker 4: use this word and bully, but you know, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just got like a little bit of this is
Speaker 4: not what we want vibes, I think, and I remember
Speaker 4: that really.
Speaker 5: I'm such a sensitive artist.
Speaker 4: Whatever, Yeah, this is the point you put ours there
Speaker 4: so that people can tear it apart and do whatever
Speaker 4: they want with it or celebrated whatever. I understand. I'm
Speaker 4: very grateful in an acceptance to be here. When I
Speaker 4: preface this, I need to preface it with that because
Speaker 4: I know it comes with being an artist, but I
Speaker 4: also am a cancer and very sensive. So I just
Speaker 4: remember that really like put me in a cage of
Speaker 4: like judging every single piece.
Speaker 5: I like scrapped so many things that I was like gonna.
Speaker 4: Put out for it, and now people are just they
Speaker 4: love it like it's the best thing I'll ever make,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 2: How is that fair? Sometimes, especially when they really get
Speaker 2: worked up in their heads that we're going to get
Speaker 2: a certain thing and then it's a little different.
Speaker 4: But I love them for it, and it's okay. It
Speaker 4: it's fine, and it's not mine anymore. And that's the
Speaker 4: thing that I also have to say, because I am
Speaker 4: aware it's like a part of it, and I'm grateful
Speaker 4: for the voices and for the passion I am, I
Speaker 4: really am you release it and.
Speaker 3: Then of course, and so this is what makes you
Speaker 3: a true realized artist is that you you You are
Speaker 3: incredibly emotionally intelligent. You're I think EQ You're You're the
Speaker 3: highest Einstein. I think that like every artist, not every artist,
Speaker 3: but like it kind of is this fun little jewel
Speaker 3: now and everyone on every artists like Crown where it's like,
Speaker 3: oh you you you put out a body of work
Speaker 3: that ends up being at the time mischaracterized or misinterpreted,
Speaker 3: and then over time it develops the patina and people
Speaker 3: were like, oh my god, this is this was always great.
Speaker 5: It's strange to watch happen.
Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: But I feel like with what you're saying about being
Speaker 3: an artist, Like, I mean, we've had conversations about this,
Speaker 3: especially when a Turtle Sunshine came out. We're like, god,
Speaker 3: this is a really everything is so considered. And I
Speaker 3: was even watching you do your makeup video for The
Speaker 3: Boy's Mind and I'm like, and I want it to
Speaker 3: is the stupidest question, but I have to ask you, okay,
Speaker 3: because because you're so good at makeup, do you have
Speaker 3: an interest or have you explored drawing?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you're so dexterous with your like like you you're
Speaker 3: able to know No, look at me, like.
Speaker 5: Dray draw painting me today.
Speaker 4: He brings out a diesel and some oil paints. I
Speaker 4: actually I paint. I paint with my dad sometimes, do
Speaker 4: you like little like paint and SIPs sometimes watercolors? And
Speaker 4: I painted for Cynthia. Actually I painted a cute little
Speaker 4: thing of munchkin Land and it's like the tulips with
Speaker 4: the yellow brick road up the middle, and then there's
Speaker 4: a little bubble in the sky and there's a green
Speaker 4: like cloudy behind it and a little tiny little elf
Speaker 4: and the monkeys behind. So I painted that for her.
Speaker 4: But I don't have that much time to color a
Speaker 4: paint side. I don't, but I love to and I'm
Speaker 4: very creative. My dad is like an artist in every way,
Speaker 4: graphic designer, photographer, a painter. Yes, and he's super creative
Speaker 4: in that way. And I thought, that's so nice talk
Speaker 4: to me about painting coloring.
Speaker 3: Right, that makes sense to me, Like you're with the
Speaker 3: hands amazing love a coloring book.
Speaker 2: I love a coloring book, especially like when it's a
Speaker 2: funny concept.
Speaker 5: The one of oz for Cynthia.
Speaker 2: Yes, And the thing is the way I said that.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is that when you get like
Speaker 2: a wicked coloring book, like you kind of think like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know what everything should be, and so then you
Speaker 2: just do it your own way. Suddenly Alphaba is not green,
Speaker 2: she's purple for once.
Speaker 4: But my mom recently was like, oh is that a
Speaker 4: coloring book? Is that she came over and I was
Speaker 4: like yeah, and she she self proclaims.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen one of those.
Speaker 4: Wild but no, she she says she's not like creative
Speaker 4: and that she doesn't like things like that, but she
Speaker 4: loves it. And I was like, mommy, you don't need
Speaker 4: to be you know, creative. She's a business brilliant person.
Speaker 4: But but she I gave her the colored pencils and
Speaker 4: the coloring book and she loved it. But also picture
Speaker 4: the character from SNL and she was coloring so hard.
Speaker 2: She was like, and I was like the reality, Oh yes,
Speaker 2: would we talk about the story of that?
Speaker 3: And this is why you should like you did not
Speaker 3: text me a bunch before in the leader like this
Speaker 3: is thank god you did, because like literally.
Speaker 2: We're helping, right.
Speaker 3: This happened two months before the show, before you came on.
Speaker 4: I was it was it was Labor Day weekend and
Speaker 4: Hale and my brother in law, Hale's family was visiting,
Speaker 4: and we had a lovely, fun game day and it
Speaker 4: was so fun and funny and sweet. And my mom is,
Speaker 4: by the way, the most generous, kindest, giving person in
Speaker 4: the entire world. Yes, she is like the hostest with
Speaker 4: the mostest you will walk in.
Speaker 5: And there are like a million fruit trays and.
Speaker 4: Vegan options for the vegan people being me and Hale only.
Speaker 4: But even that deserves you know. She wants to take
Speaker 4: everyone everywhere, and she's just the best. She's the kindest,
Speaker 4: most generous person in the entire world.
Speaker 2: But competitive, yeah.
Speaker 4: And fiercely protective of her children.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 4: So even if we're playing you know, charades and whatever,
Speaker 4: you don't fuck around. So this is what happened. And
Speaker 4: I excused myself immediately to send a voice note to
Speaker 4: Bow and I said, okay.
Speaker 2: Well there is something brewing here.
Speaker 3: Something.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're playing, we're playing charades.
Speaker 1: And and.
Speaker 4: Hell's brother, my brother in law's brother, who they're also
Speaker 4: sweet and amazing, was like.
Speaker 5: I was like ha ha, like we're winning vibes.
Speaker 4: Like that was the extent of it. Was like he
Speaker 4: was like, wear heads, we're ahead, and my mom goes
Speaker 4: tiny dick syndrome.
Speaker 5: Huh And I.
Speaker 4: Was like this.
Speaker 2: Tiny dick syndrome.
Speaker 4: Mommy, wait, like that's not funny. I was like, mom,
Speaker 4: that's intense and harmful. That's like in so intense, and
Speaker 4: we all were laughing, and of course, like he laughed
Speaker 4: and everyone was laughing, but she was like, well that's
Speaker 4: a sign of what that is. And I was like, Mommy,
Speaker 4: this is insane. And then I started doing it as
Speaker 4: a bit for Jesse Hill's other brother, and he was
Speaker 4: like crying tears tears, and like it lasted the whole day.
Speaker 4: So I was like, well, when we have to do
Speaker 4: something with this, please, it's just so silly and jaw dropped.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And also we have like a very aggressive game playing
Speaker 4: family too. I'm like the opposite so where my mom
Speaker 4: and Frankie and Hale sit on the spectrum of I'm
Speaker 4: an alien in my family a little bit because I'm
Speaker 4: like I don't care. I just want to have fun
Speaker 4: and I want to be there and I'm here for
Speaker 4: a good time.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm okay.
Speaker 4: I just want to play the game. I'm happy to
Speaker 4: be there. I don't even know half.
Speaker 2: The rules of just winning be here.
Speaker 5: Being here is a great.
Speaker 4: Time and I and I miss everyone when I'm not home.
Speaker 4: And you know, this is a great time, not for
Speaker 4: Hale or my mom. It is real. It's real deal.
Speaker 4: Hale's a real gamer though. He knows games that no
Speaker 4: one's ever heard of in the world. He's like a
Speaker 4: genius nerd person who loves games. And Frankie can't can't
Speaker 4: lose a game, Mommy can't lose.
Speaker 3: A game because you know what, First of all, they
Speaker 3: can't lose a game on jock Box.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: A plus plus, I love jock Box. We need to
Speaker 2: do please, that's what we need to do. We need
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 4: We need to do jack Box.
Speaker 2: We need to get Jay and a.
Speaker 3: Josh and Air to be this. I see it in
Speaker 3: my mind.
Speaker 4: I love them.
Speaker 5: I love your whole.
Speaker 2: They're the best. They're the best. They really truly are
Speaker 2: the funniest. Have you seen identical twins? I watched it,
Speaker 2: watched sticks together.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm obsessed with them. There are Angels from Heaven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a truly fun game too, because really,
Speaker 2: who cares if you win? Like, it's fun if you win,
Speaker 2: but it's really more just about making each other.
Speaker 3: Frankie was about the points that it's always about the
Speaker 3: points too.
Speaker 5: It was so funny.
Speaker 2: I know what that might be though, because I also
Speaker 2: am like I'm the oldest and I'm a gay son,
Speaker 2: So there's that little bit thing of like best little
Speaker 2: boy in the world. I'm gonna win the game because like,
Speaker 2: you know, what I'm saying is that might be a thing.
Speaker 2: You're not really competitive, need to win? No, never, You're
Speaker 2: really not.
Speaker 4: Can we wait? Sorry, I'm sorry, but speaking of Frankie,
Speaker 4: can we can we go see Rocky Horror?
Speaker 5: It's still happening?
Speaker 2: Please? How longer is it happening? Happening?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: To night, I'm gonna nice Cabaret. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: seeing Marty and Cabaret. Jealous. I know. I saw it
Speaker 2: in the West End with Jake Shears. Oh great, and
Speaker 2: it was great, and I'm seeing it again. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it yet a new I love Cabaret.
Speaker 4: It's one of my good wish Are you coming to
Speaker 4: the screening tonight.
Speaker 3: I wasn't told the details and so I wasn't playing.
Speaker 3: I would love to.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the details.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually going to be really fun because it's
Speaker 2: going to be all the Broadway people. But I was
Speaker 2: seeing it be.
Speaker 4: Coming with you. We wish we could have boot both
Speaker 4: at the time. Marty and Cabaret, they're my favorite.
Speaker 2: MC really love that. I cannot wait. What a beautiful
Speaker 2: person inside and oil absolutely absolute a great when like
Speaker 2: because you're like a drag Race fan. Yes, you watch
Speaker 2: every season?
Speaker 4: I watch almost every I mean I try to. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm a big drag Race fan.
Speaker 2: Have you been judged twice for once twice? Season seventees?
Speaker 2: I remember season seven iconically. That was a really amazing
Speaker 2: episode the first time you were there, and they did
Speaker 2: break free at the end.
Speaker 4: I wish I remembered more of that experience.
Speaker 2: Okay, it were great and they did break free and
Speaker 2: it was Candy Hoe versus who won. I'm not who
Speaker 2: won the show, but won the lip saying I'm forgetting
Speaker 2: her name Jars Yes, Jane Door Fears.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazily The morning after we shot the
Speaker 4: Bang Bang video and I had no sleep and I
Speaker 4: came straight there and it was like a full twelve hours.
Speaker 2: It's just surreal thing to me. When we were there.
Speaker 2: We also had a really good episode, great episode, but
Speaker 2: it was those were those were long days?
Speaker 4: Your episode?
Speaker 5: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was beautiful and we got hallucinated by
Speaker 2: DUA was the and we are screaming the whole time
Speaker 2: we were. They cut to us and we are living
Speaker 2: the fantasy because it was Jasmine Kennedy of course, really
Speaker 2: ripping it up.
Speaker 3: It was that was a great, great, great episode.
Speaker 2: Well we'll figure it out, we'll go see it.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Marty, but hold on, we need to talk
Speaker 3: about something before we move on. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 3: And then I can't even.
Speaker 2: Believe we're gonna move on. Why is it? Why could this.
Speaker 4: Give me a little more?
Speaker 2: Of course, hold on, No one has to be.
Speaker 5: Your twenty No one has to be anywhere you.
Speaker 2: Sure are, because this isn't like a press day for you,
Speaker 2: or is it?
Speaker 5: This is a press day for me? But this is
Speaker 5: the most important part.
Speaker 2: What else are you doing?
Speaker 4: I do have to leave at three, that's perkay problem.
Speaker 4: No I hear that it's two twenty. If I can
Speaker 4: leave my three. We're good.
Speaker 5: I'll be completely early and on time.
Speaker 2: You know what else you need to go see? And
Speaker 2: you need to go see?
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I mean, that's that's everything I
Speaker 4: could want for a person. I love this moment for
Speaker 4: her so much. She is so in her element, so
Speaker 4: dropped in, so beautiful, so talented. Yes, and I love
Speaker 4: that the pictures of her and blood at the stage door,
Speaker 4: It's like, that's me.
Speaker 2: That's a mood.
Speaker 5: That's a mood.
Speaker 2: But I love watching someone you in the Wicked movie.
Speaker 2: It's like when you watch.
Speaker 5: Someone and you that's where they're supposed to be. How
Speaker 5: beautiful that is happening.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now night of sunset of Art,
Speaker 2: I sat next to Candy Bursts. Oh my god, the
Speaker 2: legend like literally star studied. So many people there like
Speaker 2: sitting there watching her, and I thought, Wow, she is
Speaker 2: stepping into destiny right now. She's giving one of those
Speaker 2: performances everyone will always talk about, and it is. It
Speaker 2: is amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautiful to see, even like from Afar as
Speaker 4: a person who hasn't even seen it yet, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I know exactly what's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to talk about figment.
Speaker 4: Oh, we do need to talk about figment.
Speaker 2: So this this is also another moment where I was like.
Speaker 5: Oh, we're supposed to be in each other's We're supposed.
Speaker 3: To be in each other's lives. And then I also thought,
Speaker 3: and I did not tell you, I was like, you
Speaker 3: need to meet my friend Matt Roger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was actually the moment that.
Speaker 2: We need to go to Disney together.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Actually which one? Which one? Okay, I mean, I'm connected,
Speaker 4: me too, me too? We share that, Yes, we share that,
Speaker 4: I mean. And also it's where the Tower of Terror?
Speaker 2: And can you speak on this because this is really
Speaker 2: important because you know this came up with Mariah. We
Speaker 2: mentioned episode and speak on Tower of Terror speak on Disney.
Speaker 5: WHOA, Okay, I want to speak on the Tower of Terror.
Speaker 4: Yes, start there, because I love, I love and I
Speaker 4: respect the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I do.
Speaker 4: I think it's a beautiful experience, a beautiful thing, Raccoon.
Speaker 4: It's impressive, it's amazing. I'm like a big baby group person. Yeah,
Speaker 4: really cool. I don't remember you know much about her,
Speaker 4: but I love her.
Speaker 2: Yes, And.
Speaker 5: I just think that it is that that was a zipper.
Speaker 2: That was not a far I'm sorry. There was a
Speaker 2: noise over there was a noise down there, which could
Speaker 2: have gone either way now, but it had to be called. No. No, no,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No.
Speaker 5: Please, this is yours. I'm in your home.
Speaker 3: No, and you're literally about to meditate on terror.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm glad that happened because something needed to break
Speaker 4: the tension of what I was feeling inside the tower.
Speaker 2: You're angsty about this because it's an endangered species.
Speaker 4: It's not angst, it's it's dire, desperate, real dexy central
Speaker 4: to protect and preserve what is the Tower of.
Speaker 2: Tir Yeah, it should be a historical landmark.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think it's really important and great that
Speaker 4: there is the Guardian's Galaxy ride in California. I think
Speaker 4: that's perfect. And you know Aurora's Castle, keep it all.
Speaker 4: That's great and I love that that's the first and
Speaker 4: it's there. Ye when it comes to Florida. When it
Speaker 4: comes to the Disney in Florida, first of all, we
Speaker 4: get Cinderella's Castle, which you know, also a landmark.
Speaker 2: She's large and in charge.
Speaker 4: Yes, she is my mom tells us too often that
Speaker 4: she wants her ashes sprinkled over it, and I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 4: it's Christmas. Do we have to talk about this right now?
Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, you have to make sure that
Speaker 4: that happens, And I'm like, Mom, I don't want to
Speaker 4: make sure that that happens. Also, like, I think that's
Speaker 4: like I think there's like actors back there working and
Speaker 4: so have you gonna sprinkled on people's heads who are
Speaker 4: like dressed a stinker bell waiting for their cue.
Speaker 3: Totally, there's like there's like a hotel room in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, there's lots happening back there.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's kind of small, right, I've heard
Speaker 2: the like, like what you think the experience of saying
Speaker 2: in that.
Speaker 4: I've been in there?
Speaker 2: Have you?
Speaker 4: I've been in there because I performed at the Castle
Speaker 4: one time and I got to change in there, which
Speaker 4: was really cool, and it's really beautiful and it's really
Speaker 4: it feels very real.
Speaker 2: Do you have a Club thirty three membership? I don't,
Speaker 2: but you've been in.
Speaker 4: I've been there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been through.
Speaker 2: I've been through.
Speaker 4: I've been through.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it feels a little extreme to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure you do, you do, you have somehow gotten in.
Speaker 4: But do you have a thing.
Speaker 2: I am like the kind of mental illness where it's
Speaker 2: like I will one day sure, like I have a
Speaker 2: stick disease that no one can figure out what it is,
Speaker 2: where like I will go there, something happens to what
Speaker 2: do you do it?
Speaker 5: I'll do it.
Speaker 4: I'm in.
Speaker 2: Put us on the list whoever the powers that.
Speaker 5: We have to make that happen.
Speaker 4: Keep talking, No, I just I think it's actually one
Speaker 4: of the most important things. It's art that it's day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Did you ever tell ari about when we
Speaker 2: had to be evacuated It broke on us the tower
Speaker 2: literally a metric ton of edible. What did we do?
Speaker 4: My goodness?
Speaker 3: And it broke down, and it broke down, not like
Speaker 3: as you're about.
Speaker 2: To go in when she goes forward, she goes forward.
Speaker 2: It broke down.
Speaker 3: That's so scary, and we were stoned out of our gorge,
Speaker 3: being like, yo, is this happening.
Speaker 4: It's not fair, that's not good.
Speaker 2: We were between worlds, were like between the world, and
Speaker 2: so what they ended up doing was someone kind of
Speaker 2: comes in out.
Speaker 3: Of the shadows, out of the proscenium to get hot.
Speaker 5: Wait, how did they get in there?
Speaker 2: So I hate an illusion being shattered, I know, but
Speaker 2: it was kind of fascinating because they go, you guys
Speaker 2: need to get up, walk into the twilight zone and
Speaker 2: step out through the exit door.
Speaker 3: Take a real elevator down.
Speaker 5: I don't want to know.
Speaker 4: Where the exit door is.
Speaker 2: We're not going to tell you. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4: Really crazy? I'm so glad that you're safe and that
Speaker 4: it was fine.
Speaker 2: I hope one day you experienced this.
Speaker 5: I don't want to know where the exit is.
Speaker 2: I don't like when I like breaking news. Have you
Speaker 2: been down there to do the Guardians roller coaster in Epcot?
Speaker 4: Amazing another that's what it should be. Yeah, close, that's
Speaker 4: what it should be. That's incredible. And the music is
Speaker 4: different every time.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's just fabulous when Conga plays crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 4: Absolutely So glad you brought that up because I was
Speaker 4: going to.
Speaker 2: Bring it up so you this was funny. So we go.
Speaker 2: We ended up going a bunch of times and I
Speaker 2: was like, God, I wish it was Conga And they go,
Speaker 2: they say that it's going to happen in two things,
Speaker 2: and they can put you on the train for conga
Speaker 2: and we did it and it was the best. And
Speaker 2: then what was it that you want?
Speaker 3: I really wanted tears for fears. Everybody wants to rule, right,
Speaker 3: and we never got it.
Speaker 2: They couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 5: No problem, and well we'll have to go again.
Speaker 2: We'll have to go again.
Speaker 3: On set on Wicked, there's a sculpted sort of thing,
Speaker 3: a gigantic sculpted Jeff, a thing of Jeff Goldlands the Wizard.
Speaker 2: Wait, do you.
Speaker 4: Remember when we discovered his head and we didn't know
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know, And then I remember, I remember, I
Speaker 3: have pictures of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we were going for a walk. We were
Speaker 4: going for a walk talking about life.
Speaker 3: And then we must we happen upon this gigantic face
Speaker 3: of Jeff jo face.
Speaker 5: And we were like, dear god, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Basically a two story tall sculpted face mask of Jeff
Speaker 3: gold Bloom, and we're like, wow, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: And then it's in the mood. It serves a.
Speaker 4: Purpose, Yes, it serves a beautiful purpose, but we just
Speaker 4: had no idea. We were so disarmed by it.
Speaker 2: Yes, this figment, no figment.
Speaker 5: But in a way.
Speaker 4: One day we were on set, we were ont and
Speaker 4: and we were just like.
Speaker 2: Talking about our favorite.
Speaker 4: Said you undertourney into the imagination. Yes, because we were like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: We had said, oh my gosh, you know who I
Speaker 2: love that figment that my guy. No, get up, girl down.
Speaker 2: Wait no, here, here's here's the actual question I need
Speaker 2: answered absolutely right now. If they were to add one
Speaker 2: of your songs to Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 5: You don't want They don't have to do that because.
Speaker 2: I want it. Why is it into you? Why is
Speaker 2: it into you? Can you imagine? So it would be gagging.
Speaker 4: You're like, I would love to ride the ghost in
Speaker 4: Guardians or the Galaxy ghost in.
Speaker 2: No. I was watching for some reason. Sometimes as I
Speaker 2: want to do I'll watch like old clips of the voice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: would you ever go back and do that again? And
Speaker 2: do you think you mostly did it because the chair spun.
Speaker 4: So No, but it was a perk.
Speaker 2: It was a good perk.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's so crazy.
Speaker 5: It is really fun. You have to get you have
Speaker 5: to go do it.
Speaker 2: At some point, I have to hit the button.
Speaker 4: It's really fun. It's really fun. I got so emotionally
Speaker 4: attached to everyone. That's my problem. I can't really do
Speaker 4: that because I really get in I really get in
Speaker 4: there with everyone, and I love everyone so much. I
Speaker 4: love meeting people, and I felt so invested and I
Speaker 4: still do. Like I see them all on Instagram, and
Speaker 4: I yes, I mean not, I've been busy. I haven't
Speaker 4: really been in touch with anyone, but I love them
Speaker 4: and I'm in touch with them on Instagram. Like I
Speaker 4: like their posts, I see their things, I see what
Speaker 4: they're up to. Bell ahead of Baby, Sasha's putting out
Speaker 4: solo music, Sasha of Jim and Sasha and you know,
Speaker 4: I mean like he sent me his project last year
Speaker 4: and he's so talented, and so I'm still in touch
Speaker 4: with some of them, but I it's just like I
Speaker 4: get very involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also like for a non competitive person, like
Speaker 2: the rest of those judges were really competitive, Like Kelly
Speaker 2: is really competitive.
Speaker 4: I love her.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: Number one, that is she's the best in the world.
Speaker 2: Is she the best singer in the world. I think
Speaker 2: it could be key, it could be a thing. She's unbelievable,
Speaker 2: just wild.
Speaker 4: She really is one of the greatest vocalists that there
Speaker 4: ever husband ever.
Speaker 2: So you being like, you know, like young when she
Speaker 2: was on American Idol. Was that like a trip for you? Like,
Speaker 2: I wonder, like when you meet these people that are like,
Speaker 2: you know now your peers, well, it feels probably odd
Speaker 2: to say you as someone who's like a really reverent
Speaker 2: like respector of these vocal legends like now to hear them,
Speaker 2: just to be able to engage with them, Like right,
Speaker 2: where how do you approach to that?
Speaker 4: I mean, so many things that have come to be
Speaker 4: in my life feel like such a dream, Like I
Speaker 4: can't really fathom a lot of things, you know, even
Speaker 4: getting to know Image and Heap just kind of meeting
Speaker 4: her was one of the best things that has ever
Speaker 4: happened ever. You know. I was so in shock and
Speaker 4: all the first time I went to go meet her,
Speaker 4: I thought it was being catfished.
Speaker 5: Wow, I didn't really think it was going to be her.
Speaker 5: I was really scared.
Speaker 4: And then I got kind of like lost in the
Speaker 4: woods and I was like, this is it. I'm done,
Speaker 4: well the journey there. I'm not gonna like, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna like drop I'm not going to drop the location
Speaker 4: Emmy's house.
Speaker 2: In the Polkon.
Speaker 4: But it really is a trip. I just feel so
Speaker 4: deeply grateful because so much of the art that I
Speaker 4: have loved, I've developed an interesting relationship with or artists
Speaker 4: that I've loved, and you know when they say don't
Speaker 4: meet your idols, I've had so many positive experiences of
Speaker 4: that and I'm so grateful for that. You know.
Speaker 3: Can I share what the moment was that I got
Speaker 3: to win us a view meeting Stevie next. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was for promo on Thursday, and she.
Speaker 4: Had written me a letter a few years ago, so
Speaker 4: we had spoken in contact.
Speaker 5: We had spoken once before, but we had never met.
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, and ari and I were already
Speaker 3: on the floor just like giggling, being stupid, and then
Speaker 3: they bring Stevie on and I just kind of immediately
Speaker 3: need to back away. And she took Arii's hands and
Speaker 3: was like, I have to tell you that I loved
Speaker 3: your video.
Speaker 2: For a week. Can't be friends.
Speaker 3: It reminded me of so many people that I have
Speaker 3: come across.
Speaker 2: In my life, probably Lindsay Buckingham.
Speaker 3: Sure, totally and like for whatever the song means, like
Speaker 3: for her.
Speaker 4: To oh it's not just a real moment. I couldn't
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe anything. She's so kind and so cool
Speaker 4: and so beautiful. I can't I can't really get over
Speaker 4: what that was like, spending those few days together and
Speaker 4: sharing a space with her. Just such a warm, beautiful,
Speaker 4: good witch in every sense, you know, you know, just
Speaker 4: overly generous, like overly friendly, overly kind. And I don't know,
Speaker 4: I feel like I love meeting people and talking, but
Speaker 4: sometimes I can go and stay overstay my welcome.
Speaker 5: I feel it.
Speaker 4: And I felt like I like I wasn't doing that.
Speaker 4: She's wanted to keep going with me, and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my goodness, we're both going and going and going,
Speaker 4: and she's such a just a sweet, kind, kind energy,
Speaker 4: and I just I couldn't wrap my head around it.
Speaker 2: What she's offering right now too with this new song.
Speaker 2: Like I was watching an interview with her a couple
Speaker 2: of days ago, and you know, the song is about
Speaker 2: like women like acting right now and like you know,
Speaker 2: voting and fighting the fight, like and really making sure
Speaker 2: that we don't lose rights. And but she was really
Speaker 2: talking about it in a way of like service and
Speaker 2: she's like she said this line in this interview where
Speaker 2: she was like I was given this gift and I'm
Speaker 2: doing my job she's like, I'm out here, and you
Speaker 2: get the sense that it's just like, you know, she
Speaker 2: didn't have to do Saturday Night Live. No, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I would imagine that's a pretty daunting
Speaker 2: thing to be asked. And she spoke on how nervous
Speaker 2: she was, but you get the sense that she's like, no,
Speaker 2: hear this song. I'm being given this opportunity. I have
Speaker 2: this to offer. And she kept saying like, you know,
Speaker 2: I tell a good story, so I'm gonna go out
Speaker 2: there and tell the story. And it was just like
Speaker 2: there was like a selfless like artists mentality that she
Speaker 2: so clearly had and has had.
Speaker 4: There's work to be done and I'm gonna do it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a serviceability and what she does that she
Speaker 3: knows about.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm gonna like be the vehicle for this message.
Speaker 3: That's God. I just love her. I loved seeing you
Speaker 3: guys together.
Speaker 4: It felt really special.
Speaker 2: Yeah the BT, yes, I love because I remember we
Speaker 2: got to be on the floor for at just seventeen
Speaker 2: and so there was a moment where for some reason
Speaker 2: they had to hold it back for a second, like
Speaker 2: I guess maybe some commercial was going too long or whatever,
Speaker 2: and there was a moment, but I was watching you
Speaker 2: guys interact with each other and like have a moment
Speaker 2: of play in that oh yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 2: this is very It's like obviously a cool live TV
Speaker 2: moment like where they get to count down a few
Speaker 2: different times, but just watching you guys together was really fun.
Speaker 4: It was really people kind of looked at each other
Speaker 4: and we were like yeah, and it was very sweet.
Speaker 4: And you know when when live things like that are happening,
Speaker 4: it's everyone gets a little like nervous, and we felt
Speaker 4: like the audience get a little tense too, so we
Speaker 4: started doing like a bit with them too.
Speaker 2: It was really fun to play her in a biopic.
Speaker 4: Oh why.
Speaker 2: If that not not to be like that should happen
Speaker 2: in the way that you can cut it if you.
Speaker 4: Want, but you could, Oh my goodness, there are so
Speaker 4: many girlies that would be perfect for that.
Speaker 2: Well I'm just saying you remember one of the girlies.
Speaker 4: Should play Stevie. Oh you go, No one can do
Speaker 4: Stevie minutes.
Speaker 2: It's like when Fantasia played herself. Absolutely remember that. It
Speaker 2: was years ago. Fantasia played herself and her own biopic
Speaker 2: for lifetime. Yes, yes, genius, Yeah, it could happen more.
Speaker 4: Do you remember when Share played everyone in west Side
Speaker 4: Story Side Story?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Iconic fabulous.
Speaker 2: You could pull that off.
Speaker 4: That's really that's really fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I want to know what that meeting was.
Speaker 2: You think it was just one meeting? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: With our final twenty minutes, let's cross into I don't
Speaker 2: think so honey, because I don't think. Money always pvokes conversation,
Speaker 2: and I want to leave room for it. So I
Speaker 2: don't think so honey. Is our sixty second segment where
Speaker 2: we all rant, rail and rave against something in culture
Speaker 2: that just bothers us and we It's a cathartic moment
Speaker 2: and we're all going to be made better for it.
Speaker 2: I have something that I'd like to do. I don't
Speaker 2: really have, like, I haven't planned anything out of just
Speaker 2: have my emotions on this thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good, This is Matt Rogers. I don't think
Speaker 3: so honey. As time starts, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think so honey, Klamari? Can I ask you a
Speaker 2: genuine question? Who actually cares? I? Do you actually care
Speaker 2: about Kalamara? You think that you I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 2: that it's ever different one place to the other. Don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, it's a really good appetizer. There's no versatility.
Speaker 2: And if you get into being versatile with your calamari,
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is it's not fried. Then it's just
Speaker 2: like what boiled calamari? Sure, I'm sorry, but it's boring.
Speaker 2: It's boring the things we can do with other appetizers.
Speaker 2: Look at my girl wings. You can have a lemon pepper,
Speaker 2: you can have a buffalo, you can have a barbecue.
Speaker 2: And I've only listed three. I don't have time to
Speaker 2: list the rest. But what I'm saying is the versatility.
Speaker 2: Now I hear you at home, Matt, what about buffalo klamari?
Speaker 2: You have a point fifteen seconds but you don't see it.
Speaker 2: You don't hear about it. Calamari physics something that's on
Speaker 2: the table constantly. And I'm like, that's great, but are
Speaker 2: we just not using our imaginations By Brussels sprouts on
Speaker 2: the table as an appetizer, I'm saying it, but heat
Speaker 2: is nodding, And I want to say, let's get more
Speaker 2: creative with appetizers. Seafood restaurants I'm looking at you, like,
Speaker 2: come on, let's get the raw bar together.
Speaker 3: That's quite enough. That's one minute.
Speaker 2: Well, I just feel I don't think anyone agrees with me.
Speaker 4: See I agree, I don't think. I mean, but I
Speaker 4: also never had it. I don't want to eat them.
Speaker 2: You don't want to eat them.
Speaker 4: I don't want to eat them.
Speaker 5: I think it's better for the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that deeply.
Speaker 5: But to each their own, to each their own.
Speaker 2: Because you're right, it is better for the world. I mean,
Speaker 2: when Natalie Portman came out with that documentary that was
Speaker 2: did you ever watch her doc No Eating Animals? That
Speaker 2: was what it was called, And it was so crazy
Speaker 2: to watch her due press for it because she was like, listen,
Speaker 2: my documentary does talk about how it's much much better
Speaker 2: for the world for us to not do it. But
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you not to. I'm just here with
Speaker 2: my documentary. Yeah, and like, watch it or don't. This
Speaker 2: is the choice I made for myself. But I don't
Speaker 2: that you're wrong.
Speaker 4: I'm just right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just right.
Speaker 3: Which is a vibews can be true, Yeah, two things
Speaker 3: can be true.
Speaker 2: It's not that you're wrong. I'm just right. Right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm right and you might be wrong. I'm big
Speaker 3: and you're small. What's that round trunch bull? The legend's
Speaker 3: name trunch crunch bowl.
Speaker 4: I have a question. Yeah, should my thing be about
Speaker 4: my the Tower of Terror?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yes, yes, hold on, when I get it, do
Speaker 2: you want to go in that pull it up?
Speaker 3: I just I do want to say. I want to
Speaker 3: push back and say that you cannot say that anyone
Speaker 3: who likes Klamari is not is unimaginative when it comes
Speaker 3: to appetizers.
Speaker 2: I just think that you're there.
Speaker 3: All the sauces you named for wings can easily be
Speaker 3: slathered onto, but you don't want to talk about it
Speaker 3: like that. I'm just offering up my my rebuttal. That's
Speaker 3: all you are, Queen. I love Calamary.
Speaker 5: Have you ever watched the like my best friend.
Speaker 4: The Octopus Octimus Teacher Teacher, that's what it's called for
Speaker 4: dads for sure.
Speaker 2: My dad loves that.
Speaker 4: For dads and me.
Speaker 2: Dad, you know what I've said, like four times Blackfish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that watch doesn't stay with you after mental illness that
Speaker 2: no one can tell me what it is. The things
Speaker 2: I do Twitter will tell you come on one day.
Speaker 2: They all came from me. They were like Matt has
Speaker 2: adhd and I was like stop and then I was now,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I do.
Speaker 4: They tell me?
Speaker 5: I have a lot of things God, And you know
Speaker 5: I'm kidding.
Speaker 4: I'm joking. You're actually invasive and scary.
Speaker 2: I look at them like, what do I say? I
Speaker 2: write that down? That down?
Speaker 5: Know, just wrong and loud and.
Speaker 2: Wrong and loud.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's toxic.
Speaker 2: Ready to be right in loud? Yeah yeah, So here
Speaker 2: comes Bowen Yang. By the way, I was showing Ari
Speaker 2: the intermediate playlist, this is.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 2: Okay, so bow and Yang locked loaded, ready to rip,
Speaker 2: roar and ride. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey, Ginger. I don't like the
Speaker 3: way you're shaped. I go to the grocery store. You're
Speaker 3: you're shaped like branched dicks. And I don't like how
Speaker 3: you slice into it and you leave it on the
Speaker 3: counter and it becomes stringy. And then Nigella loss And
Speaker 3: describes ginger as having a spicy warmth. I go, shut up,
Speaker 3: it is it doesn't do anything. When was the last
Speaker 3: time a ginger shot kept you from having a cold?
Speaker 2: Me? Yeah, damn it. It is it is. It is
Speaker 2: not pulling its weight anymore. Ginger. You think it's the placebo, y'all.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you for a fact, it is not actually
Speaker 3: doing anything. You're you're eating something spicy and gross and
Speaker 3: it's not actually good anymore. And Ginger has making all
Speaker 3: these can is now that make make you feel like
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be healthy. No, I don't think somebody ginger,
Speaker 3: you're shaped weird. I don't think we're ever supposed to
Speaker 3: have eaten you. We're supposed to letting you grow in
Speaker 3: the ground and take roots. That's one meant to be buried.
Speaker 3: Look at the faces of your friends.
Speaker 2: They're laughing. They're laughing.
Speaker 4: I couldn't have been a us.
Speaker 2: I think they're laughing at us. If you're laughing at us,
Speaker 2: say whoa, oh no, no, thank.
Speaker 4: You, thank you God, thank you.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I think, well now we're both embarrassed. You stand by
Speaker 3: your calamari. I don't think soonny, this is a disaster.
Speaker 2: Ginger.
Speaker 4: Ginger is fabulous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always thought so until I used it for
Speaker 3: a dish yesterday and I went, what was the dish?
Speaker 2: A curry?
Speaker 4: It belongs it has to be in curry doesn't.
Speaker 3: It You would think too much, well much too much?
Speaker 2: Did you just put too much in?
Speaker 3: That's on Ginger, that can happen, that's Inger, much.
Speaker 4: Like Starnice has a big presence, sucks up all the
Speaker 4: space in the room. Certain flavors really can't be You
Speaker 4: can't share a dish with them.
Speaker 5: I think they're very self conscious about it.
Speaker 4: I think Starnesse comes into the room and is like, Hi, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's.
Speaker 5: Going to see and claries like fuck.
Speaker 2: I don't think people know you as a culinary icon.
Speaker 2: You are has it been something you're holding back from
Speaker 2: the world?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I don't think I'm a culinary icon.
Speaker 4: I'll say Jada is shook.
Speaker 2: Jada is shaking. I do like to don't you feel
Speaker 2: Jada shaking? I think Jadas is shaking. What does Jonda
Speaker 2: delient just have anything to do with? I think Joda
Speaker 2: Delarentis is watching this right now being like, fuck, Marianna
Speaker 2: is good as she's coming from me cooking. She's cooking now.
Speaker 4: I am cooking. I am cooking. I like to cook.
Speaker 5: I do you think that's enough of that?
Speaker 4: I don't think there's life there. I don't think that's
Speaker 4: interesting or adds value to this podcast, asked a ship,
Speaker 4: Am I going to sit here and talk about like
Speaker 4: roasting mushrooms for the next ten minutes?
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's amazing. Tell more about that, honestly, anyone like King.
Speaker 5: Oyster trumpet, like the trumpet ones, the.
Speaker 2: Trumpet mushrooms, the trumpet ones, I do like those.
Speaker 5: There's so many different ways you can work those, guys.
Speaker 2: You know, so many differents you can work.
Speaker 4: Crazy, especially something that looks as falic as it does
Speaker 4: so many but you can make them into little like
Speaker 4: you can make them into scallops if you just all
Speaker 4: tell them like that, or you can chop themisast like
Speaker 4: make them in their little chips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to take her to Brooklyn Crab. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the restaurant in Red Hook. You can't take me, you.
Speaker 5: Drink, I can have the sides.
Speaker 4: That's the one thing you really get to know, this
Speaker 4: sides queen. It's like kind of the Saudi's finish? Is
Speaker 4: it in butter? You got to ask, don't you know?
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of I told you.
Speaker 5: That wasn't going to go anywhere.
Speaker 2: Serving up a dish here it is? So are you ready?
Speaker 2: Because oh yes, so this is the moment, and it
Speaker 2: feels like you've now thought.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know what I was going to do,
Speaker 4: but I feel like now that we've talked about it.
Speaker 5: I should use my letter.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now is the time use the letter. It's time
Speaker 2: for everyone to hear the letter. This is a gand times,
Speaker 2: so this is gonna be a different take. And I
Speaker 2: don't think sowney. This is an historical artifact. It's a
Speaker 2: written document that really serves as an I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Honey, and here we go, here we go. This is
Speaker 3: Ariana Grande's I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey. The guardians of the Galaxy
Speaker 4: ride in Disneyland, California, No offense said with much love
Speaker 4: and respect, an open letter to Disney World, Orlando.
Speaker 5: Hello, I hope this finds you well. My name is
Speaker 5: Ariana Grande.
Speaker 4: I've been a frequent visitor and a great admirer of
Speaker 4: your park since I can remember. Some of my fond
Speaker 4: is the Professional Memories have been collaborating on my cover
Speaker 4: of Allan Makin and David Zipple's tremendous hit Zero to
Speaker 4: Hero and performing in front of Cinderella's Castle along a
Speaker 4: magnificent choir that you so graciously provided. Further, some of
Speaker 4: my oldest and warmest personal memories include spotting hidden mickeys
Speaker 4: across the parks, driving up from Boca on the weekends,
Speaker 4: counting the purple signs, knowing we were nearing your parks,
Speaker 4: and alas Dot da data Dot doa dat riding the
Speaker 4: absolute masterpiece that is the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
Speaker 4: for the first time once I was finally tall enough.
Speaker 4: Perhaps this message comes prematurely, but I would be remiss
Speaker 4: if I did not reach out with a potential matter
Speaker 4: of grave concern in the wake of the most recent
Speaker 4: alterations that have befallen your historic Pulse Park in California. Yes,
Speaker 4: I am referring to the calamitous loss slash makeover of
Speaker 4: the Tower of Terror. Ride here, I humbly implore you
Speaker 4: to not follow suit. Please allow the iconic and tremendous
Speaker 4: Tower of Terror to stand tall permanently in the name
Speaker 4: of historical preservation, spooky honor, and good old fashioned fun.
Speaker 4: I hope that you'll consider this humble plea from a
Speaker 4: passionate fan and my way over while asking that my
Speaker 4: own pastn't devoted fans signed the attached change dot org
Speaker 4: petition just in case. I never posted this, but I
Speaker 4: really wanted to me and that's one minute best. My
Speaker 4: best friend Aaron and I worked on this together during
Speaker 4: the pandemic.
Speaker 2: You can tell it went through drafts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, the votecab yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah you and did they so you never sent it?
Speaker 4: No, I never posted it, but I was ready, but
Speaker 4: it felt like there were more important things going on
Speaker 4: in the world, so I didn't. I don't know, this
Speaker 4: was really up there. I'm kidding is here's the thing,
Speaker 4: like joking, but it's not a joke.
Speaker 2: You know. I once created a change dot org petition
Speaker 2: for Disney World and it actually got a lot of signature.
Speaker 2: Really was I did not want them to make Donald
Speaker 2: Trump in the Hall of Presidents.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, this would be ridiculous,
Speaker 2: and they did do it. And then they did.
Speaker 4: Oh they put them there.
Speaker 2: That's so famously they what you know what I'm going
Speaker 2: to say. So they started to make a Hillary animatronic
Speaker 2: because everyone was so positive. So when you go down
Speaker 2: to if you ever go to the Hall of Presidents
Speaker 2: and you see the Donald Trump atamatronic, he kind of
Speaker 2: has Hillary's face.
Speaker 5: No, what are you talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about exactly what I said, Oriana, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about exactly what. But literally he's got the face shape.
Speaker 2: You can confirm this, right, So he's he's gone her face.
Speaker 2: I can't say anymore. Well, I'll post it. But like
Speaker 2: I did a change dot org and it did some numbers.
Speaker 3: And we will and we will post the change dot
Speaker 3: org petition that you're referring to.
Speaker 5: You know what, I I don't want to rock the boat.
Speaker 2: That's it. This is a duty. The boat rocked as
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: It's okay, I say goodbye.
Speaker 2: Why was this so good? I literally I had been waiting.
Speaker 5: To meet you every finally met I know.
Speaker 2: And also I felt like it was the Essenal after
Speaker 2: party and it was so there was so much going on.
Speaker 2: I literally like.
Speaker 4: You had a glow around you, you had a halo around
Speaker 4: you coming towards me, and it felt like an angel
Speaker 4: descended from the heavens. I was literally like this person, wait,
Speaker 4: I literally because we have a messaged and I know
Speaker 4: you and we know now. Yeah, absolutely, but I was
Speaker 4: just I told Boone, I was like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: he has such a disarmingly warm energy.
Speaker 5: I am so obsessed with him.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I felt like I was like I
Speaker 2: was like meeting Ari and so it was just like
Speaker 2: I like, I give her a hug, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just want to say that, you know, And I
Speaker 2: started to like, I was like, I have this conversation
Speaker 2: with her later about how meaningful it is to me
Speaker 2: that you were there for him when he was going
Speaker 2: through things, and I just like, I've like, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, I just always felt very connected
Speaker 2: to you because I could tell that my friend had
Speaker 2: a friend. So anyway, that's how I feel about that.
Speaker 2: And you just are such a sensation in this movie
Speaker 2: and in everything you do, and we love you.
Speaker 3: We knew you used to sing for good.
Speaker 5: I'm need to hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was off of that. I'm glad that's tracks
Speaker 2: it does. We actually had it.
Speaker 3: We had we had it together there for a while.
Speaker 3: We had a great rendition.
Speaker 4: There was once a video of us, Like, I feel
Speaker 4: like I have seen it, but I want I want
Speaker 4: to see it in person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we gotta do it. We'll do it soon. Well,
Speaker 2: there's Sunday. But it's so emotional to get through. Oh,
Speaker 2: forget about for Good. That must have been crazy shooting that.
Speaker 4: I was hovering outside my body for two weeks. And
Speaker 4: also we shot it on a rain cover day, so
Speaker 4: it wasn't even supposed to be When we were shooting.
Speaker 4: It got you, which I loved because I love not
Speaker 4: over rehearsing or knowing fully. You know, when you know
Speaker 4: the girls, you can just jump in and do it,
Speaker 4: but you know it's fine, and we just were. It
Speaker 4: was a lot we had to do. Movie two's going
Speaker 4: to be a lot. We're not allowed to talk about
Speaker 4: it much, but I just will say it's going to
Speaker 4: feel different.
Speaker 2: Than every one.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: Everyone that was like it should be one movie, Like
Speaker 2: you're gonna feel silly, you know.
Speaker 4: I think you understand once you see it that there's
Speaker 4: just simply too much. There's too much to get through
Speaker 4: that deserves and needs to be honored and explored and
Speaker 4: fully fully represented. We got one shot to make these
Speaker 4: movies until they remake it and you know and whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but we had to get it right. There's so much
Speaker 4: story that deserves the time.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You are brilliant. I love you both so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you for loving me.
Speaker 4: This was so much fun.
Speaker 2: We end every episode with this song, switching the positions
Speaker 2: for you indroom not you not knowing it in front
Speaker 2: of her.
Speaker 4: I know it's a strange key.
Speaker 2: We're done fine.
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Speaker 2: Podcasts created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang.
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