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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hans is coming to you from
Speaker 1: a room that's filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosehal What is up, boys? Hey? Dan? Championships
Speaker 1: Sunday is in the books and it will be breaking
Speaker 1: new spoiler alert. The San Francisco forty Niners against the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Exactly, Mark, at you into this game.
Speaker 1: I'm very into it. It is. It is two fresh
Speaker 1: new teams, and it's calling for the sound drop. But
Speaker 1: I want to hear real thoughts as well. Hit the
Speaker 1: sound drop. Oh yeah, yeah, Ricky, So I finish your
Speaker 1: thought though. No, I just you know you're looking at
Speaker 1: the combinations the minute you get to Championship Week, and
Speaker 1: there were a couple of combinations that excited me less.
Speaker 1: This promises to be a total fireworks show potentially. And
Speaker 1: you know the Sessler family is on the Niners bus
Speaker 1: to some degree. For a large degree. Well, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I'm rooting for them to enjoy the great Simone Sessler,
Speaker 1: your better half, as they said, Yes, no questions about
Speaker 1: what a what a blanket statement to put on all relationships.
Speaker 1: But in this case, correct is a huge Niners fat
Speaker 1: She's legit. Yeah. So they are all over the map,
Speaker 1: they're rooting for multiple teams, as children do. They're kind
Speaker 1: of feeling out. Anything that smells like a loser they
Speaker 1: get away from quickly. We got we got a men,
Speaker 1: you know, set a conference championship games overall today, which
Speaker 1: means we're leading to a great super Bowl. Last year
Speaker 1: we had the most unbelievable conference championship Sunday of all time.
Speaker 1: I would say, and what did that lead to? Thirteen three?
Speaker 1: I was I'm fine with this on our around the
Speaker 1: NFL Network show the broadcast, which thank you to everybody
Speaker 1: that watched our three week audition. We've been promised nothing
Speaker 1: about that show existing beyond uh this month, but we
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun doing it, and everybody that
Speaker 1: supported you guys are the best. My my prediction was
Speaker 1: that where would be too kind of blowouts today humble brag,
Speaker 1: and that stinks because you want a lot of fun
Speaker 1: on the on this great day. But it really is
Speaker 1: the best scenario to me ultimately, because you don't want
Speaker 1: one of these, not that there's anything against the Titans
Speaker 1: of the Packers. But if one of those teams sneaks in,
Speaker 1: then you're worried about a Super Bowl blowout. I just
Speaker 1: don't imagine how it could happen with these two teams.
Speaker 1: How fun football, It's fun. This show does exist in
Speaker 1: Dan's mind. That's what I'm beginning to learn. Also, at
Speaker 1: least a vast majority of the segments cooked up. I
Speaker 1: did Um, how is your Anthony ferk ser weill score
Speaker 1: in the final six seconds to win up? Well, you
Speaker 1: know it was looking good. He did score a touchdown
Speaker 1: and then everything, you know, the floor fell out. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, so you know what we're here to do.
Speaker 1: We're here to talk about the two games and uh,
Speaker 1: and then maybe spin forward a little bit, do some
Speaker 1: winners and losers. And a reminder, by the way, Uh,
Speaker 1: we will be heading to Miami next week a week
Speaker 1: from today, and are big around the NFL Live show
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Speaker 1: that are fans of the Niners, fans of the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: gonna be an incredible showing of the fan bases. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs haven't been in a Super Bowl in fifty years
Speaker 1: and have one of the greatest uh fan bases in
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. And the forty Niners with the history
Speaker 1: that they have in the lack of Super Bowls, I know,
Speaker 1: I know they were New Orleans, not that long ago.
Speaker 1: That that it's long enough ago. They're gonna show up.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be unbelievable. Everybody's excited about this matchup. The Niners.
Speaker 1: Of course, we're in the Super Bowl against the Ravens,
Speaker 1: the famous Beyonce blackout game at the Superdome. But did
Speaker 1: a little research, as we must do as professionals, it's
Speaker 1: been a while since the Niners hoisted the Lombard. You
Speaker 1: gotta go all the way back to the ninety four
Speaker 1: season and the Chiefs. Of course, yes, it's been a
Speaker 1: very long time. So let's get into the games. We'll
Speaker 1: go in reverse order once again, So let us start
Speaker 1: at the big bow bomb Topolo and the gun moster
Speaker 1: to the right, Samuel again, good matchup. Hendrick Bourne in
Speaker 1: a glunch formation debo behind am Manuel the point of
Speaker 1: the bunch to get a gun run most of off
Speaker 1: the leptop banks of Tuco twenty touch down, Guy, great baby,
Speaker 1: run down, you go thrunning Wow, Rod, it opened up
Speaker 1: one on the gun Rod. Third and eight house call
Speaker 1: from Rheed Moser, Greg Papa and company. Oh, right off
Speaker 1: the bat, turn it off, turn it up in our
Speaker 1: ears coming. Okay, I blocked out there for a second.
Speaker 1: Yes you did. I had a red bull right before
Speaker 1: where you get started? Greg Papa with the call for
Speaker 1: the Niners radio network Brahe Mostard. He began the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game on the sideline as a reserve. He ended
Speaker 1: it as a Santa Clara folk hero. Most Are set
Speaker 1: a team record with two and twenty yards and four
Speaker 1: touchdowns on the ground in San Francisco's thirty to twenty
Speaker 1: win over the Packers. The Niners advanced of their first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. As I said, since season and uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one because simone Cessler,
Speaker 1: she's dancing. She's dancing like nobody's watching, maybe holding a
Speaker 1: glass of white wine chardonnay. The kids you put to bed,
Speaker 1: and now she's just spinning around in the living room
Speaker 1: waiting for you to get home. Let's move this along
Speaker 1: and you know what oppress if she got him the
Speaker 1: bed so quickly. What a day for Simone and all
Speaker 1: the other Niners fans because this was a three and
Speaker 1: a half hour celebration. To me, one thing that I
Speaker 1: pulled from it is the versatility of the forty nine
Speaker 1: and almost a huge flex by Kyle Shanahan to show
Speaker 1: Jimmy G who is constantly a talking point in an
Speaker 1: excellent quarterback in many ways, and when you need him,
Speaker 1: he's there through the ball eight times that ninety plus
Speaker 1: minutes of real Earth time past in this game where
Speaker 1: Jimmy G didn't was not asked to throw the ball
Speaker 1: because of their utter and total dominance on the ground
Speaker 1: against the Packers defense. That sorry, Mike Petton, I mean
Speaker 1: this is not a resume builder what happened here because
Speaker 1: you went through huge chunks of the game where it
Speaker 1: was just extremely clear this is what Kyle Shanahan was doing.
Speaker 1: Re mustered his turn into Superman. We're gonna unleash him
Speaker 1: over and over and over and on the flip side,
Speaker 1: I don't think that like a supercharged Nancy Drew could
Speaker 1: find Green Bay's offense until the game simply didn't matter.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like both side of the Green Day operation.
Speaker 1: Nancy drew on like a tour at all shot or
Speaker 1: something have viewers more like an adult who's been through
Speaker 1: some stuff and she because she know her her investigative
Speaker 1: her investigative powers are fine tuned, but she's been damaged it.
Speaker 1: I thought we saw evidence of why Kyle Shanahan is
Speaker 1: the best play caller in the league and since he
Speaker 1: started calling plays, he takes any running back you have
Speaker 1: and turn him into a stud. Going back to Steve Slayton,
Speaker 1: who was a fantasy football god as a rookie alpham
Speaker 1: running for six hundred yards. I mean Rahee Mosterd, a
Speaker 1: guy who's been with seven different teams. Now. He was
Speaker 1: a sparkscore guy coming out of Perdue. He didn't get
Speaker 1: invited to the Combine, but ran like a four or
Speaker 1: three eight and was a total stud athletically, but bounced
Speaker 1: around the league. And you're at Troy troitman say you
Speaker 1: don't see holes like this in the NFL, but every
Speaker 1: week when you watch the forty Niners, you see a
Speaker 1: few of them. Because Kyle Shanahan schemes this up. He
Speaker 1: had over most of it, has over a hundred yards. Uh,
Speaker 1: and rtage on the ground by halftime without being touched.
Speaker 1: That shows you he's just running into open space. But
Speaker 1: he also is like athletic and has like I love
Speaker 1: his style. He's sort of he fits this style for
Speaker 1: their offense so perfectly because he kind of flows with
Speaker 1: the hole and and like knows when to get get
Speaker 1: up in it. And Uh, it's a beautiful it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. I was waiting for the for the sound
Speaker 1: note there, like the forty Niners not needing to call
Speaker 1: a pass was it's it's almost humiliating the fact that
Speaker 1: they came out a halftime after the Packers scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown in their first touchdown drive, and it's, you know,
Speaker 1: in theory, it's somewhat of a game at that point,
Speaker 1: it's to seven. I guess it's not much of a game.
Speaker 1: But at least the Packers were feeling good and he
Speaker 1: doesn't need to call a pass in the second half
Speaker 1: on a nine play drive. It he said coming out
Speaker 1: of halftime, the forty Niners could legitimately kneel every down
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, they although in hindsight, you know, the
Speaker 1: Packers did put up three touchdowns in three straight possession
Speaker 1: and the game proved to be over at that point.
Speaker 1: But it's outrageous to not throw a pass coming out
Speaker 1: of halftime on that drive and still be able to
Speaker 1: score a touchdown. It's humiliated and you and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is Mike Petton doing? There was? There was They
Speaker 1: didn't like put eight in the box for most of
Speaker 1: the game. They kind of had a light situation where
Speaker 1: they have their five defensive backs, which they played all
Speaker 1: season long. He didn't really adjust and I thought that
Speaker 1: the key play call was his third and seven early
Speaker 1: and he it felt like Kyle Shanahan knew what Mike
Speaker 1: Petton was gonna do in terms of the pressure that
Speaker 1: he was gonna bring. And he calls a third and
Speaker 1: eight draw that goes for a remoster touchdown and it's over.
Speaker 1: And none of this is stunning. I mean green Bay defense,
Speaker 1: while it was improved this year and obviously they Guta
Speaker 1: KANSTI had a really nice offseason and we celebrated that
Speaker 1: all seasons. I'm not sure he gets I think we
Speaker 1: can't play that tonight. You can't get it. As as
Speaker 1: as they've had great German clubs are closed they yeah,
Speaker 1: they closed out the game President Smooth the big exact
Speaker 1: last week, but even that game, the Green Bay defense
Speaker 1: was getting gash down the stretch there. Uh So they
Speaker 1: had always been susceptible to cold stretches, and this was
Speaker 1: felt like basically a worst case scenario where the defense
Speaker 1: isn't ready and then the Niners offense is just ripping through.
Speaker 1: I just I think that we all trusted Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: in so many ways. But one of the ways is
Speaker 1: who's going to get the best of Kyle Shanahan versus
Speaker 1: ex co workers that he knows. And I think we
Speaker 1: mentioned this on our show on on Friday too, that
Speaker 1: you know, he worked very closely with Mike Petton and
Speaker 1: that advantage went clearly to Kyle Shanahan. To Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 1: I mean, fill in the blank. It was Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. So it's like, when you
Speaker 1: work with Kyle Shanahan, he's observing you, and I think
Speaker 1: he does an excellent job of Their roster is not
Speaker 1: star studded on any level. It just is. It's it's
Speaker 1: a hodge podge of guys that have grown inside the
Speaker 1: Niner system and some free agents and people that he's
Speaker 1: found that fit. Everywhere he goes, he seems to find
Speaker 1: the right most piece. But I mean this to me
Speaker 1: is one of the most talented, if not the most
Speaker 1: I just would say that. I would say that two
Speaker 1: years years ago, you wouldn't say that like these players
Speaker 1: that have, like George Kittle. We all kind of fell
Speaker 1: in love with Kittle a couple of seasons ago, but
Speaker 1: becoming a household name is happening now. Aigman made a
Speaker 1: great point of Kyle Shanahan. He thought his best gift
Speaker 1: is being able to evaluate talent and how it's going
Speaker 1: to fit in his system. And and John Lynch does
Speaker 1: there's all the credit for everything that he's done to
Speaker 1: help the process here, but this is a situation where
Speaker 1: Kyle Sanahan's the boss. I mean, this is Kyle Shanahan's team,
Speaker 1: and especially offensively to your point, Mark, he picks guys
Speaker 1: that you don't know are gonna be stars, and they
Speaker 1: look like stars, like Deebo Samuel Well. A big part
Speaker 1: of that is development and developing George Kittle from a
Speaker 1: fifth round tight end into the best in the business.
Speaker 1: That's huge, and then to go out and nail the draft.
Speaker 1: I specifically ripped on John Lynch this offseason and wondered
Speaker 1: all those first round picks they were pouring into the
Speaker 1: defensive line and nothing was going on. Now, you draft
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, turned the whole unit around. Pick up Drake
Speaker 1: Greenlaw in the fifth round, pick up Deebo Samuel, when
Speaker 1: other guy as they're taking in nikkil Harry, Greg hurt Um.
Speaker 1: Here's when we're talking about it. Jimmy G throwing just
Speaker 1: eight passes, but it's incredible what this team was able
Speaker 1: to do offensively without a passing game, but without using
Speaker 1: their passing game. At one point, Jimmy G went more
Speaker 1: than ninety minutes of real time with between passes when
Speaker 1: he connects with George Kittle with about seven and a
Speaker 1: half minutes of All right, if any somebody already said it,
Speaker 1: somebody already said it, I don't need your little chuckle
Speaker 1: in your looks Sessler, and I did not start that
Speaker 1: look on any level, by the way. I don't need
Speaker 1: the looks, is what I'm saying it is, And had
Speaker 1: to be looking at someone who made me chuckle. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in the host. I can't
Speaker 1: find hang on every word, every word I have to heng.
Speaker 1: I think it's worth reiterating, so please when he connects
Speaker 1: with George Kittle with about seven and a half minutes play,
Speaker 1: that's the only target Kittle had all game. That's George Kittle,
Speaker 1: that is one of the great tight ends in the league.
Speaker 1: And he was second in the team and receiving. Also
Speaker 1: was throwing devastating blocks left and right. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't a bye week for Kiddle, but it
Speaker 1: almost like they kind of like, it's hard, it's tough
Speaker 1: to scout this team through the air when they did
Speaker 1: nothing this week. Already said that Well was at home
Speaker 1: watching this game and he is having the best time
Speaker 1: he's ever had, not on a football field. Because Theties
Speaker 1: Navy offenses out there going to the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: mean they ran at forty one times and through an
Speaker 1: a It's outrageous. I mean, they are truly playing like
Speaker 1: nies forties fifties football, but with an amazingly creative running
Speaker 1: game twist to it. Four hundred and seventy five yards
Speaker 1: and two games for the Niners in the playoffs on
Speaker 1: the ground. To Kiddle's credit, Kyle Janahan said he never
Speaker 1: once has asked me to call a pass play for him,
Speaker 1: But if we pass a bunch of plays in a row,
Speaker 1: he'll come over and say, Hey, isn't about time we
Speaker 1: call a run play? Now? I want to get out
Speaker 1: there and block somebody. Do we put any uh? We
Speaker 1: put this loss on Aaron Rodgers at all? Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't think if he had played his best
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't necessarily win. But you cannot come out
Speaker 1: of a game where he turns the ball over twice
Speaker 1: in the first half, one which really, you know, put
Speaker 1: the game away essentially. I mean, he goes what three
Speaker 1: and out fumble interception in three straight drives in the
Speaker 1: second quarter. He started six for six and I think
Speaker 1: at that point they had negative passing yards, so it
Speaker 1: was certainly more than just him. But he started the
Speaker 1: game poorly. The first three first downs of the game
Speaker 1: he went one yard pass on a third and short
Speaker 1: sack sack, and he if he has had any issues
Speaker 1: I would say consistently over the last couple of years
Speaker 1: is that he doesn't take chances, that he throws the
Speaker 1: ball away, that he eats the ball a little bit,
Speaker 1: and that happened early in this game. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it would have mattered, but he didn't play well.
Speaker 1: That's he's gonna take blame because of who he is.
Speaker 1: But from the halftime of the win over the Seahawks
Speaker 1: until the halftime of this drubbing that they took in
Speaker 1: the first half year, they were outscored forty seven to seven.
Speaker 1: And you know, if it's a different type of type
Speaker 1: of quarterback, you can say that they were The offense
Speaker 1: was taken totally out of its game. I mean they
Speaker 1: just the defense, to me, takes a huge matt This
Speaker 1: also is a Niners team that was about three plays
Speaker 1: away from being eighteen and oh, you just ran into
Speaker 1: a buzz saw. Romo said in the middle point of
Speaker 1: the season that Rome that Rogers and la Flora had
Speaker 1: basically come to an understanding. La Fleur calls the first
Speaker 1: and second down place and then Rogers say, let let
Speaker 1: me handle third downs. From that first forty Niners blow
Speaker 1: out to the first half of this one, over sixteen
Speaker 1: on third downs against the forty Niners, that's the man
Speaker 1: who's not handling pressure well. And when you juxtapose it
Speaker 1: with the way Patrick Mahomes handed pressure, I know the
Speaker 1: Titans pass rush isn't even in the same league as
Speaker 1: as the as the forty Niners pass rush, but Rogers
Speaker 1: does not handle pressure like he did earlier in his career.
Speaker 1: Also didn't like Matt Lafleura not going for it on
Speaker 1: fourth and short very early at midfield. These are all
Speaker 1: just little things that the Packers needed to be perfect
Speaker 1: to compete even and it was really just the turn
Speaker 1: overs from from Rogers to me that that stands out
Speaker 1: for them to have any chance. He couldn't have done
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. By the end of next season, he will
Speaker 1: have turned thirty seven years old. So if you're a
Speaker 1: Packers fan, you know this is a game that sometimes
Speaker 1: these are easier to digest when you're clearly outclassed, as
Speaker 1: as Green Bay was in this game. But the clock
Speaker 1: is now used to talk about that some people would
Speaker 1: get ahead of themselves when he when Rogers was thirty
Speaker 1: thirty four. Oh man, you're burning away his prime. Now
Speaker 1: we're really getting into the late career period where we
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer he's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: be that guy. Is he even that guy anymore? West
Speaker 1: You're you're saying there's certain aspects of his game that
Speaker 1: have already deteriorated. So that's kind of a bummer. And
Speaker 1: I know, Greg, you were talking about on Thursday, you
Speaker 1: were getting excited, you were hopeful, and Aaron Rodgers made
Speaker 1: some great throws. I mean, you look at the numbers
Speaker 1: and you had you would think he had a decent game.
Speaker 1: But you see, and we'll get to Patrick Mahomes in
Speaker 1: that game. At this point, a difference between the true
Speaker 1: like top of the line quarterbacks who can almost single
Speaker 1: handed lee will a team back into action, and where
Speaker 1: Rodgers is, who I think maybe at this point in
Speaker 1: his career, is maybe just a step below that. Is
Speaker 1: that unfair? No, No, I don't think that's unfair. But
Speaker 1: I also think you can point that if Rogers had
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey instead of Jimmy Graham and
Speaker 1: Alan Lizard, I think the results are a little bit different. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: But He's also was healthy all year and I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone would argue that he was a top five
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback this year. I don't think he was that
Speaker 1: close to being a top five NFL quarterback this So
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big change he made. He's healthy and
Speaker 1: he's not a top five quarterback. That's different. Now could
Speaker 1: he be next year? I mean the fact that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady to me was you know, a top one or
Speaker 1: two quarterback for you know, three years from ages thirty
Speaker 1: to forty one. I do believe it could still happen
Speaker 1: it with the right combination of players and coaches, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't happening this year at that level. I do too.
Speaker 1: And when we played the Goodies song and all that business.
Speaker 1: He he did a nice job rebuilding the defense, but
Speaker 1: there was a I always felt there was a little
Speaker 1: bit of I don't want to call it eric because
Speaker 1: I think they simply believed in their young wide receivers.
Speaker 1: But this we don't need to address our skill position players.
Speaker 1: On offense. We're set, We're fine, and Aaron Rodgers throwing
Speaker 1: to nobody in this game like that. There's you get
Speaker 1: a big play by Jimmy Graham, but it's like a
Speaker 1: total anomaly on this season. I think you have you
Speaker 1: do have to ask questions. I think if you're the
Speaker 1: Packers and I'm sure they're going to be investing in
Speaker 1: offense this offseason, you know, philosophically, they've put so much
Speaker 1: into their defense free agency money and draft picks. They
Speaker 1: have spent like crazy on their defense, and they improved
Speaker 1: the defense from terrible to okay this year. But it's
Speaker 1: it's an offense league, and I'm sure they're gonna want
Speaker 1: to start investing more in the air. And you could
Speaker 1: see why that was their mindset, is like, we have
Speaker 1: an all time graded quarterback. We believe we've given enough
Speaker 1: developing talent where he could lift them and then if
Speaker 1: we build up on d it could all come together
Speaker 1: in a championship type Stu, maybe this is a bit
Speaker 1: of the wake up call because here are some of
Speaker 1: the other guys that caught balls other than Adam's Graham
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard. You had Jake Camaro a catch, Marcedes Lewis
Speaker 1: with two catches, Jay Sternberger with two catches, Geronimo Allison
Speaker 1: with two catches, Tyler Irvine with a catch. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys, they need to upgrade the talent. I agree,
Speaker 1: we're all in agreement on that. Well. I know it's
Speaker 1: a new regime there, but part of their identity to
Speaker 1: me is played just well enough to get steamrolled by
Speaker 1: the forty niners in the playoffs. Because this has happened
Speaker 1: over and over again against their defense, right, Well, they Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they've lost this year, they've lost hard. I mean
Speaker 1: they've lost to the Chargers, they lost in this game.
Speaker 1: They they haven't been overly competitive. It it's just a
Speaker 1: reminder to how how tough it is to make the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, the forty Niners or four and
Speaker 1: twelve last year, they're in the super Bowl. And now
Speaker 1: Jimmy g has made just as many Super Bowls as
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers has had for their careers.
Speaker 1: It just takes so much. I mean, it makes Brady's
Speaker 1: nine Ross Tucker point makes Brady's nine super Bowls all
Speaker 1: the more ridiculous that Rogers and Brees have been to
Speaker 1: one each. Like, not only do you need things to
Speaker 1: come together, but you need to not have to face
Speaker 1: uh an epic forty Niners team that even the best
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was probably gonna lose. We were like four
Speaker 1: months away from Kyl Shanahan and John Lynch being on
Speaker 1: everyone's hot seat list. I mean, it's just everything changes
Speaker 1: very quick. Blame the Saints. I blame the Saints for
Speaker 1: blowing that first game. They should have been in this game.
Speaker 1: The NFC North was over a little overrated all year Uh,
Speaker 1: they should have been there. They weren't. They didn't get
Speaker 1: the w didn't happen. Alright, any other thoughts on this
Speaker 1: game before we move on? Well, we'll do a little
Speaker 1: winners and losers at the end if you want to
Speaker 1: put a bow on anything here. Um, all right, now,
Speaker 1: this is the only reason we got Ryan Bartlett behind
Speaker 1: the glass, big cheese fan. It's been waiting his whole
Speaker 1: life to see the Chiefs in the super Bowl, making
Speaker 1: today a very important day. Hard not to be happy
Speaker 1: for him after all these shows that we've done with
Speaker 1: him and the years where the Chiefs melted and you know,
Speaker 1: West said to me privately, it's hard not to be
Speaker 1: happy for him. But I'm still not. Wait, what's fair?
Speaker 1: I am a and of Ryan Bartlett and a fan
Speaker 1: of Bryan Bartlett's Instagram account, which is on fire. All right,
Speaker 1: So Bartlett was a big day for him because his
Speaker 1: Chiefs are playing for a chance to get back to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Let's get into that game. Williams changed
Speaker 1: that same way. Three man rush again by Tennessee Mahomes
Speaker 1: moving to his left, latterally chased holding it and gets
Speaker 1: out of bouncing up the sideline. He's not out of
Speaker 1: bounds yet he's at the ten. Inside the Tenny dives
Speaker 1: for the end zone touchdown Kansas City. A remarkable acrobatic
Speaker 1: scramble on the twenty seven yard run. Maybe the best
Speaker 1: play Yett of Patrick Mahomes. Incredible young career. He had
Speaker 1: to the King of these Kingdom for tru Today, the
Speaker 1: team that Lamar Hunt founded has just one Lamar Hunts
Speaker 1: trophy in the stadium. That was Lamar Hunts Dream Carndam.
Speaker 1: It's holmated his whole career. Oh, turn it up in
Speaker 1: my ears. The chiefs chiefs chief Chee chee going to
Speaker 1: the dance. If you wonder, Markham, they had a sacrifice
Speaker 1: a girl. The natives make this happen, I know, but
Speaker 1: I long disagree with you about what's happening in this scenario.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like a I mentioned it the police trauma.
Speaker 1: You take it somewhere totally different st Patrick Mahomes, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was a surgeon throwing the ball Sunday, but it
Speaker 1: was his that twenty seven yard run where he tap
Speaker 1: danced down the left sideline at the end of the
Speaker 1: second quarter. That's what will remember most about uh this
Speaker 1: year's AFC title game. Mahomes is incredible. TV run gave
Speaker 1: the Chiefs the lead for good and routes with thin
Speaker 1: over the Titans at Arrowhead. Yes, the Chiefs advanced to
Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl since the nineteen sixty nine season,
Speaker 1: and uh, Greg, with Mahomes out front, they have a
Speaker 1: great chance to bring this thing home. I think what
Speaker 1: is so remarkable about Mahomes is that on a day
Speaker 1: like today, it's some of the things you don't think about,
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to Mahomes that totally destroys
Speaker 1: the opposition. Like he's moving defenders before the snap to
Speaker 1: kind of open up, you know, running lanes. He's diagnosing
Speaker 1: every single thing that Dean P's and Mike Rabel tried
Speaker 1: to do before the snap to show him different coverages.
Speaker 1: None of that, uh got him out of his game.
Speaker 1: When they take away his first read, especially early in
Speaker 1: the game, he hits a third intended Kelsey that was
Speaker 1: an amazing play to make it forth and short, and
Speaker 1: they keep that drive going. I think his best skill
Speaker 1: right now might be buying time, having a feel for
Speaker 1: where the pass rush is coming from and buying a
Speaker 1: little extra time for him to make his magic. And oh,
Speaker 1: that's different stuff than used his arm, which is the
Speaker 1: greatest arm I've ever seen, and it's gonna take an
Speaker 1: unreal defensive effort to stop him. And luckily for us,
Speaker 1: you know, he's playing the best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It took about twenty to twenty five minutes worth of
Speaker 1: game time in this game to to solve the question
Speaker 1: of which Juggernaut force was more unstoppable, and it was
Speaker 1: Mahomes because resistance was futile. I think what Greg said,
Speaker 1: he said it well, like anything in front of Mahomes,
Speaker 1: if he can see it, he can solve it. You
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta blindside him in order to sack him.
Speaker 1: In this game, the Titans were getting some pretty good
Speaker 1: heat on him, and he was solving it by either
Speaker 1: scrambling or buying time to hit receivers. And I think
Speaker 1: that changed the whole way the Titans called offense because
Speaker 1: they knew their defense could not stop him, So every
Speaker 1: set of downs became so precious that they could not
Speaker 1: go away from Derrick Henry. That's what they believed in.
Speaker 1: And when you had the second and ones or the
Speaker 1: third and two is that they used to do play
Speaker 1: action on, they said, we gotta go with Henry and
Speaker 1: in Chiefs, you saw they were even doing goal line
Speaker 1: defense in the first half to stop Henry in short yardage.
Speaker 1: And at that point we're used to seeing Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: dial up, play action or get creative, but I didn't
Speaker 1: think they dared get creative with the way to Mahomes
Speaker 1: was toying with their defense. Yeah, I mean Tennessee's bread
Speaker 1: and butter. At least two really interesting wins to get
Speaker 1: to this point are making teams that people thought more
Speaker 1: of highly uncomfortable and the Titans controlling the pace, and
Speaker 1: the Titans, especially in the second half, you know, having
Speaker 1: their way, and the Chiefs at this point if you
Speaker 1: look at their two deficits against the Texans and today
Speaker 1: when they did down seventeen seven, that's a forty one
Speaker 1: to seven deficit that they fought their way out of.
Speaker 1: So I don't so I cain both comfortably, exactly to
Speaker 1: the point where I think even watching it at no
Speaker 1: today was a little different than the Texans because I
Speaker 1: simply believed in the Titans more and they and they
Speaker 1: put up more of a fight after after having that lead.
Speaker 1: But it was like by halftime that I had the
Speaker 1: same thoughts I did last week, Like this game feels
Speaker 1: just simply over to me, because what I love about
Speaker 1: Kansas City, why I think the Super Bowl will be
Speaker 1: awesome no matter what happens in the first minutes, is
Speaker 1: how aggressive they are. Even when they're up and it's
Speaker 1: third and ten, they're gonna keep throwing the ball. And
Speaker 1: they're not one of these cookie cutter teams that sits
Speaker 1: on a lead. They are gonna relentlessly look for an advantage.
Speaker 1: And that's Kyle Shanahan too, So we're looking on paper,
Speaker 1: it's something very classic with the way the two coaching
Speaker 1: staffs attack. It's interesting how the Chief's offense never really
Speaker 1: kind of wet that next level during the regular season
Speaker 1: and now they are in that unstoppable type feel that
Speaker 1: marked their UH season in when Mahomes was the m
Speaker 1: v P and through fifty touchdowns, I just I couldn't
Speaker 1: not to keep everything on Mahomes, but I just could
Speaker 1: not believe how impressive he was in this game. It
Speaker 1: was like it was one of the best quarterback games
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and I've ever seen and I know
Speaker 1: he his numbers aren't perfect because twenty three or thirty five,
Speaker 1: but I thought he played a flawless game and did
Speaker 1: things that nobody else can do. The touchdown run was
Speaker 1: Romo said it during the game. He said, it is
Speaker 1: maybe the best individual play we've seen by anyone all season. Hey,
Speaker 1: you just did it in the a f C title
Speaker 1: game to put your team ahead for good. His passing
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, and then when the Titans and they threatened
Speaker 1: to make things interesting, bang he hits Watkins for sixty yards,
Speaker 1: showing off that unbelievable arm. It's almost unfair his physical abilities.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so fun to watch, especially with
Speaker 1: the running ability. I mean that that to me has
Speaker 1: been a difference in their winning streak since you know,
Speaker 1: they lost to the Titans the last time around it
Speaker 1: he has picked up and I'm thinking of the Chargers
Speaker 1: game and up definitely through the playoffs whenever they're taking
Speaker 1: away the past. Now he's thinking, okay, he knows everything
Speaker 1: in front of I'm gonna take eleven yards when he
Speaker 1: was their leading rusher in both of these playoffs. Cut
Speaker 1: the defense on a yo. Yo. It's it's out right,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it is mental though,
Speaker 1: I mean, I really do think he's in his third
Speaker 1: year in this system, you know, second as a starter,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is he seems incredibly sharp
Speaker 1: and that he's like further ahead right now that he
Speaker 1: was a year ago in terms of taking what the
Speaker 1: defense gives. I think it also points to and I
Speaker 1: like Damian Williams and he's had a couple of big
Speaker 1: plays for the Chiefs obviously down the stretch. But they're
Speaker 1: running back situation just is it he has to do
Speaker 1: that because they can't lean on their stable of runners
Speaker 1: the same way that don't need you don't need to
Speaker 1: run to be the best offense in the league. Get
Speaker 1: into a situation where they need you. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you want haven't you want to? But it was it
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting in the first half. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think they had three rushing attempts in the first half,
Speaker 1: and to Andy Reid's credit, he came out a half
Speaker 1: time and they had that drive right at a half
Speaker 1: time thirteen place, seventy three yards. Uh. And that was
Speaker 1: a lot of running in the third quarter with Damian
Speaker 1: Williams and Mahomes and so they are able to mix
Speaker 1: it up a little. They were up ten first downs
Speaker 1: to four on the ground over Tennessee at one point,
Speaker 1: which is, you know they're these games have weird statistical
Speaker 1: stuff happening three quarters of the way through, but that
Speaker 1: shows you that should have been reversed if you're the Titans.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Andy Reid after the game when they
Speaker 1: delivered the Lamar Hunt trow be back to the Chiefs
Speaker 1: on three? Can we just give it one? How about
Speaker 1: those cheese on a nice moment there? And then Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: who I'm sure he's going to enjoy Super Bowl Week.
Speaker 1: He got his chance on the podium. I'll learn one.
Speaker 1: I'm here. You gotta fight. I feel like Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: is your nightmare. Mark. No, it's I you know. I
Speaker 1: actually once interviewed his mom for a Mother's Day piece
Speaker 1: and she basically said that the two well, I guess,
Speaker 1: I mean it was I think like eight people read it.
Speaker 1: But the two Kelsey brothers are so competitive. They're so
Speaker 1: competitive that I think that when the brother gets there
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, Travis Kelsey has waited for this moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, do I think that he probably practiced that
Speaker 1: line or had a a short list of two or
Speaker 1: three lines that might work over the mic if they won. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do from White Castle to the Nile. I know
Speaker 1: Greg has a favorite Beastie Boys line, but he might
Speaker 1: not be able to say it on this podcast. Oh
Speaker 1: what I'd stick in the mash withotatus and we're not
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to stay or we're live on the internet.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to assign blame to why
Speaker 1: that just happened. West hewing Greg up and Greg not
Speaker 1: realizing that we're liveing. It feels like a good time
Speaker 1: for Erica to just step in and take hands. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think all right, let's let's put the train back
Speaker 1: on the tracks here. Uh yes. And remember this was
Speaker 1: the same Chiefs team Patrick Mahomes led them to twenty
Speaker 1: four points in the fourth quarter against the Pats last year,
Speaker 1: only to get left hung out to dry when the
Speaker 1: defense couldn't get off the field. So this was some
Speaker 1: unfinished business here in the a f C title game.
Speaker 1: And um, we talked about this like leading up weeks
Speaker 1: in advance on this that getting Andy Reid to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl stage, getting the Homes out in front. This
Speaker 1: is such a year where Mahomes kind of took a
Speaker 1: step back as Lamar Jackson rose up. This is now
Speaker 1: Mahomes a stage and the Chief I I think, what
Speaker 1: we have time to talk about who's gonna win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? But it's just like, this is such a
Speaker 1: gonna be such a great game. But Mahomes is the
Speaker 1: best player on the field on the biggest stage, and
Speaker 1: he's proven that on the biggest stage he gets better.
Speaker 1: How do you pick against that guy? I'm gonna struggle
Speaker 1: to I thought it was a great example of complimentary
Speaker 1: football and how an offense helps a defense. I thought
Speaker 1: that Titans would push the Chiefs around, and it didn't
Speaker 1: really happen to a few plays early where Henry was
Speaker 1: going for eight or ten yards a pop. But the
Speaker 1: way that Chief's offense helped turn the Titans offense one
Speaker 1: dimensional in the second and third quarters. And then the
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense with Honey Badger and Sorenson bringing hard hits,
Speaker 1: Frank Clark backing up his talk, Chris Jones playing better
Speaker 1: than we thought he would with the injury, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: defense turned the Titans one dimensionally to start passing it after.
Speaker 1: I think it are complementary, but it's it's the Chief's
Speaker 1: offense that just saves the Chiefs defense having a no
Speaker 1: show I mean, you give up seventeen points in your
Speaker 1: first three drives, that's a disaster. The Titans only had
Speaker 1: the ball seven times today for a full drive, and
Speaker 1: they scored twenty four points. Yeah, I mean this was
Speaker 1: allowed the Chiefs defense to find them right. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because it this was not a great game by the
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense. And you know, you look at the final
Speaker 1: score and it's twenty four points and and it ends
Speaker 1: up being comfortable. And they held Derrick Henry down. I
Speaker 1: mean they were like celebrate every time they got Henry
Speaker 1: on the ground in the first half for a three
Speaker 1: or four yard run. They were celebrate like they were
Speaker 1: so happy. But they really weren't playing very effectively. It's
Speaker 1: just amazing. Like when you put up thirty five points,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. When you put up thirty five points
Speaker 1: and eight possessions, it's like it's over. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's like the Titans wanted to shorten the game. Great,
Speaker 1: you shortened it, and you shortened it so you lost faster.
Speaker 1: And if you had one nugget of information, you know,
Speaker 1: through a crystal ball coming into this game, and it
Speaker 1: said that you know, Derrick Henry will be held to
Speaker 1: two yards rushing in the second half, in the final
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, it's over. You know, Titans. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like they had their run. I would look I
Speaker 1: would look at this season, though you can't. I'm saying
Speaker 1: they can't be too disappointed. It's different. It's a little
Speaker 1: different to me. And it's not on a Matt Lafleura.
Speaker 1: I think she look at this season and say, as
Speaker 1: a rookie head coach, he did a great job. But
Speaker 1: the Packers, with all that's happened with Aaron Rodgerson, the
Speaker 1: playoff losses accumulating over the years, that's a whole different field.
Speaker 1: Losing this game. If I'm a Titans fan, and it
Speaker 1: depends what they do with some of these free agents
Speaker 1: and stuff. And Mike rabel is your coach, you feel
Speaker 1: good like this you were playing with house money. Feel good,
Speaker 1: But I don't see. I don't buy house money. You're
Speaker 1: up ten nothing, that's fine. Championship game. There's no promises
Speaker 1: that you ever get back to the stage with this nucleus.
Speaker 1: These games are hard to get to. And when you
Speaker 1: have a ten point lead in the second quarter to
Speaker 1: then go from seventeen seven up to thirty five seventeen down.
Speaker 1: That's a bitter pill, especially when we spent a week
Speaker 1: straight talking about, Hey, everyone's between the chief between the
Speaker 1: Titans and Texans is if you fall behind against the Titans,
Speaker 1: it's over because Derrick Henry ends the game. He couldn't
Speaker 1: do it this time, and he didn't. They you kept
Speaker 1: waiting for him to break that sixty yard run that
Speaker 1: he's done week after week. And to the Chiefs credit,
Speaker 1: they're not a perfect defense, but they never let Henry
Speaker 1: dictate the flow of the game, and that was a
Speaker 1: big part. I would just say this though, I mean,
Speaker 1: I hear, I hear you. You don't want to lose.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Titans fans are, you know, out at
Speaker 1: the bars dancing up and down the streets right now.
Speaker 1: But you don't want You don't sit around thinking that
Speaker 1: the better team lost. It's pretty clear you lost to
Speaker 1: a superior team. And to talk about taking steps in
Speaker 1: one season, they took as big a step as any
Speaker 1: team in the league outside of the Niners. They do
Speaker 1: have huge questions in the offseason. Tannehill, Derrick Henry, and
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin are all free agents. Those might be the
Speaker 1: three best players on their offense along with A. J. Brown.
Speaker 1: Here's some idea the right Conklin might be the easiest
Speaker 1: guy to say, I don't know, Henry. Henry feels like
Speaker 1: a guy get tagged. I'm saying, just get get get
Speaker 1: the tag because it'll be complicated to figure out anything else. Tannehill,
Speaker 1: you would think they're gonna sign him long term. I
Speaker 1: don't think today was Tannehill's best game. Certainly not on him,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it was one of his best.
Speaker 1: It made me question his ability in cold weather. He
Speaker 1: throw those back to background balls in the middle of
Speaker 1: the game and it's like, what where is your grip
Speaker 1: on the football right now? I can I can already
Speaker 1: see a billion thing pieces about buyer beware Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: contract as quarterback. Articles is unfair, though I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's unfair. It's just so hyper predictable. It's hyper predictable.
Speaker 1: It is. It is tough to like, I, you know,
Speaker 1: we're we're doing these free agent rankings. It will get
Speaker 1: into this stuff, but it is tricky to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: him versus a guy that you've seen and do it.
Speaker 1: But his way up there in years like Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was a ten game sample. He's worth
Speaker 1: more to the Titans than anyone else. They should bring
Speaker 1: him back, and I really think that they will. Well,
Speaker 1: you forget because of what happened in the final three quarters.
Speaker 1: But in the first quarter, you saw that he had
Speaker 1: time to throw in huge open windows whenever they did
Speaker 1: play action. It's really hard to evaluate quarterbacks in play
Speaker 1: action offenses because the windows are bigger. He also took
Speaker 1: that Streds and hit, and I'm not sure that he
Speaker 1: was right after that, I think he was right, Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness. And then they came back from break and
Speaker 1: he was he was changed. He was holding his tablet
Speaker 1: and changing it with his nose because his hands were
Speaker 1: so cold. He had the gloves on, uh, leading to
Speaker 1: a Romo joke that he thought that might be connected
Speaker 1: to the headshot he just took. Which Tony, Tony working
Speaker 1: a little blue and broadcasting terms in the NFL. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's it's going around these days. I guess I did
Speaker 1: really enjoy Tyrone Matthew on the podium at the end
Speaker 1: of the game and kind of the journey he's been on,
Speaker 1: but especially his play today. I mean, he had that
Speaker 1: open field tackle early that that really stuck out on
Speaker 1: A J. Brown. But he had the big tackle for
Speaker 1: loss on a pass play that he ends up tweeting
Speaker 1: about after the game. That was the exact same play
Speaker 1: that the Patriots ran against them uh for almost a
Speaker 1: touchdown UH back in like week twelve, and he said,
Speaker 1: I knew they were gonna run that same because because
Speaker 1: I fell for it last time. And he's the type
Speaker 1: of guy who it seems like he knows what the
Speaker 1: other team is going to do before they do it.
Speaker 1: And he has been an incredible free agent syna mean,
Speaker 1: maybe their best defensive player at least on the field today.
Speaker 1: West didn't feel in the newsroom early on that this
Speaker 1: wasn't Chiefs verse Titans. It was more a Mark versus
Speaker 1: Greg scenario with a lock the lockoff title on theline.
Speaker 1: Greg needs a win to clinch. And the tension in
Speaker 1: the room when I got in right around kickoff and
Speaker 1: you could feel it when you said break down, the
Speaker 1: percentage of where the tension was coming from giving an
Speaker 1: honest answer didn't seem to be right. It was. It
Speaker 1: was mostly it was a very intense Mark, more intense
Speaker 1: than usual. But then, um, Greg, you you could. I
Speaker 1: could feel that you felt that energy coming off Mark situation,
Speaker 1: to the point where when Marc goes upstairs to do
Speaker 1: a sky hit, you start making some positive comments about
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, like I gotta get these in before Mark
Speaker 1: comes back downstairs. That was the type of I didn't
Speaker 1: want it to be a brown situation where I couldn't
Speaker 1: root on the Chiefs for fear of for fear of
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I was that menacine, but I
Speaker 1: I was. You know, there was just intensitive trade your
Speaker 1: chief your Titans fandom as if it was, you know,
Speaker 1: a well spring. It came from this natural place. It
Speaker 1: came from the fact that the only thing I know
Speaker 1: you to be competitive in is the locks that you
Speaker 1: really wanted well and I, by the way, congratulations did
Speaker 1: a great job and you've wanted outright at this point. Here,
Speaker 1: here's your prize, Greg. You have to be take part
Speaker 1: in this next season and defend your title. Now there's
Speaker 1: there's a rule. You know, whoever wins can make up
Speaker 1: the rules. And then when did that bec it's not
Speaker 1: a rule? Smart moved by Dan though, to lock up
Speaker 1: the forty niners and sneak into second place. I like
Speaker 1: to find your face on a milk carton. If you
Speaker 1: take this contest away from us, that was a death threat, folks. Uh,
Speaker 1: pretty amazing that the Chiefs went fifty years without a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance. Uh. That they've had some very good
Speaker 1: teams over the decades. It has some great teams other decades,
Speaker 1: and you just it's kind of amazing that it never
Speaker 1: all came together until two thousand twenty. You know what's
Speaker 1: been missing though, Like the B line is, this was
Speaker 1: the team that didn't draft a first round quarterback, didn't
Speaker 1: pursue developing quarterbacks. They never had the guy. And like
Speaker 1: I Andy Reid kind of quietly must be kicking himself
Speaker 1: for settling. And Alex Smith is a good quarterback and
Speaker 1: statistically viable and all this stuff. But Patrick Mahomes, he
Speaker 1: could have had five Super Bowls if he had a
Speaker 1: guy like this tenure. I mean, Bartlett and his fellow
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans have earned this moment, no don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: they lost seven straight playoff games over twenty years. And
Speaker 1: then in the Andy Reid era, even which has had
Speaker 1: a lot of hope, you've had five straight years where
Speaker 1: you've watched them five straight but you've seen five playoff losses.
Speaker 1: He put the headset on Bartlett. Second here, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got right of here after after all these and he's
Speaker 1: a Jet Chiefs fan. He's been the producer of the
Speaker 1: video show all season. He's done a great job. Bartlett.
Speaker 1: We talked about on last Sunday show that if the
Speaker 1: Chiefs win, you will run nude through downtown Culver City.
Speaker 1: You'll go past our office, past the sad old age
Speaker 1: home where the ambulances are always outside, past seven eleven one,
Speaker 1: past the gun shop past seven eleven two, and then
Speaker 1: get to the d m V and come back. And
Speaker 1: sure enough, Fricky Hollywood has the video footage up after
Speaker 1: the game nude Bartlett. The people then hr Nightmare producers
Speaker 1: never stopped throwing it to himself. And if you want,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch the YouTube show for this very reason.
Speaker 1: But we're never putting in the YouTube backup back there.
Speaker 1: Varlet's bringing some text to the house. Varlett's working hard
Speaker 1: on that body, so he wasn't a sham to show
Speaker 1: it off. A congratulations Ryan, Oh this is great. I
Speaker 1: don't I didn't know how to act so much. First uh,
Speaker 1: first thing was just take off my clothes and start
Speaker 1: running around the block. So what was the reaction to
Speaker 1: the people outside the gun store because there were some
Speaker 1: people out there was like a group gup of gun
Speaker 1: store enthusiasts outside. Yeah. Well, my first when when I
Speaker 1: ran by them the first time, not a big deal.
Speaker 1: But then when I turned around, I saw them all,
Speaker 1: uh start to make some funny faces at me. And
Speaker 1: I didn't know if they were going to come closer
Speaker 1: step away, but maybe not your people. I mean I noticed.
Speaker 1: I thought that you, you know, if you were especially
Speaker 1: striking without clothing, I couldn't get a full view there
Speaker 1: that you know, you'd see cars veering off the side
Speaker 1: of the road, but they sort of just kept dingy.
Speaker 1: Any issues now, I mean that that's hardly anything special
Speaker 1: for this neighborhood. I mean stuff like that goes on
Speaker 1: around and it's all the time. And Erica, why were
Speaker 1: you laughing so hard as Bartlett ran by you? Another
Speaker 1: fair question? Have you ever seen someone run down the
Speaker 1: street naked towards you? How could you not laugh so hard?
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not stop. It was so funny.
Speaker 1: Now here's the disgrace of it all. Bartlett, who has
Speaker 1: been a loyal NFL media employee for years, has gone
Speaker 1: to the past five Super Bowls. This year he's not
Speaker 1: getting sent by by the league, and now the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are in the Super Bowl. You gotta get this. West
Speaker 1: started a hashtag get Bartlett to Miami. I think we
Speaker 1: got a gricky star Ricky Starry we got it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: We all gotta started. I think we gotta do something
Speaker 1: about this. We gotta get him to Miami. Maybe we can,
Speaker 1: maybe we can start something. Maybe we all chip in
Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe listeners help about I think it
Speaker 1: is more than Yeah, this is more. This is more
Speaker 1: than money. This is logistics. This is him producing your
Speaker 1: Sunday night Super Bowl show from some other produce. That's
Speaker 1: that's my that we're working behind the scenes. Westward, some
Speaker 1: other brownie suggesting that you also are one that you
Speaker 1: know what, Barlett, that is a logistical hurdle. I want
Speaker 1: you to get comfortable here. You're not going anywhere. Let's
Speaker 1: try to get Barlett to Miami. It's gotta be somebody
Speaker 1: else that can help out right, I mean, we know
Speaker 1: perhaps your boss could be helpful on this. Yeah, should
Speaker 1: we Mark Brady? Should we get Mark Brady on the
Speaker 1: phone on some point this week of sneak attack. I
Speaker 1: think I think that's necessary. Any other thoughts on this game, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Barlett, that's awesome. Nineteen sixty nine season, fifty years
Speaker 1: You guys want to do some winners and losers of
Speaker 1: Championship Sunday? Yeah, all right, I'll start. You mentioned him, Greg,
Speaker 1: remember the name Dre Greenlaw Decleating Jacob Hollister in week seventeen?
Speaker 1: Maybe changed everything? Uh if are they at the big
Speaker 1: bell bottom playing in in this case? But they still
Speaker 1: have one? Maybe maybe this is not just seem is
Speaker 1: so good? They could have went on the road, but
Speaker 1: there's no doubting that the way things shook out by
Speaker 1: getting uh that win in week seventeen, big winner in
Speaker 1: addition to making place throughout the playoffs as well. That
Speaker 1: is a nice young player. That's a winner from me.
Speaker 1: What do you guys got? I got one for you.
Speaker 1: How about the legacy of the Shanahans and I you know,
Speaker 1: the Shanahans have their detractors over the years. There was
Speaker 1: a time period where people looked at Kyle Shanahan is
Speaker 1: a bit of a nuisance and someone that behind the
Speaker 1: scenes caused problems and it was hard to contain inside
Speaker 1: of an organization, and well maybe Mike Petton. Sources said that, well,
Speaker 1: this is even previous to Mike Petton. I'm thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: end of Redskins era and things like that, right, but
Speaker 1: hundred year of the NFL, you could be weeks away
Speaker 1: from having the first ever father son duo to have
Speaker 1: Super Bowl titles. And you know, I think we could
Speaker 1: go another hundred years before that happens again. So you're
Speaker 1: you're getting Mike Shanahan up on the stage today handing
Speaker 1: out trophies. It's like, we're gonna get two weeks of
Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan's celebration in praise and radio and TV spots.
Speaker 1: So it's a good week for the t be a
Speaker 1: Shanahan while you're here, because I had him under Winners
Speaker 1: as well. Mike Shanahan's black leather dad jacket. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know when the when you're the when your dad he
Speaker 1: hit forty fifty, you know, towards sixty, that black leather jacket.
Speaker 1: It's like the last bastion of cool outerwear that you
Speaker 1: can kind of wear and not feel self conscious about
Speaker 1: because it kind of is it spans the decades in
Speaker 1: terms of what's acceptable to wear, and I thought he
Speaker 1: was rocking the hell out of it. To be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you, I lived in Denver when they were
Speaker 1: winning those always late Lway career Super Bowls, and he
Speaker 1: was involved with probably Mike Shanahan twenty ad campaigns. It
Speaker 1: was it was a little bit too much. But we're
Speaker 1: heading right back into that world here are we. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, suddenly he's selling leather coats in
Speaker 1: your world, You're gonna go buy one of these? Uh sure,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give it up for the football gods
Speaker 1: just in general, like the things they set in motion
Speaker 1: for this to happen. How about the Jets winning in
Speaker 1: Week seventeen last year to give Nick Bosa to the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. I mean that that changed a lot for
Speaker 1: the forty. How about the Patriots losing in Week seventeen
Speaker 1: to set up this nice little role for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: having to home games against the Texans and the Titans.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is not not the roughest road that
Speaker 1: they could have had. Having going to Baltimore would have
Speaker 1: been a lot tougher. Uh. San Francisco, Like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: in in that week seventeen game like that, the route
Speaker 1: that they ended up having to take was kind of perfect.
Speaker 1: This has been the I think the weakest NFC in
Speaker 1: a while, which is which is only because the NFC
Speaker 1: has been so good year after year. The fact that
Speaker 1: you could make a Super Bowl beating these Vikings and
Speaker 1: Packers team, I mean, that's about as good a road
Speaker 1: as it had and I think it's perfect because you're
Speaker 1: getting two unbelievable teams into the Super Bowl. Do you
Speaker 1: want to win her? Let's say officionados of play callers
Speaker 1: and tight ends without a doubt, the two top tight
Speaker 1: ends in the NFL and George Kittle and Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, the top two play callers in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Andy Reid is credited with bringing in a
Speaker 1: lot of the Jets sweeps from college football that we've
Speaker 1: seen over the last half decade. And nobody runs more
Speaker 1: motion before the snap than Kyle Shan And I believe
Speaker 1: it's like seventy nine percent of time he's running some
Speaker 1: kind of motion before the snap. I think Kyle creates
Speaker 1: more easy plays for his offense than anybody in the NFL. Right,
Speaker 1: and he's that's the thing about Cash and it took
Speaker 1: him forever. He was an assistant for so long. But
Speaker 1: pretty much every single offense he's ever coached, going back
Speaker 1: to his Texans offense is like almost fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: They all were good, like they always had a big
Speaker 1: time advantage. Um, I have a winner. The general manager
Speaker 1: on the sideline after a huge playoff win, in a
Speaker 1: glory boy moment, beaming cameras on him. He knows the
Speaker 1: cameras on and he's got all his boys and his
Speaker 1: handlers and his assistance. They're all glad handing and big
Speaker 1: grins for everybody. That's a nice moment when you get
Speaker 1: down to the field in a stage like this, I'll
Speaker 1: go out and throw out another winner. How about Rob
Speaker 1: Blow in a big spot? And some people are gonna
Speaker 1: put him on on the loser list because they say,
Speaker 1: why are you wearing an NFL cap when they flash
Speaker 1: to him in the crowd during the NFC title game.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something about Rob Blow. First
Speaker 1: of all guys, is mid fifties, still looks great, just
Speaker 1: taking care of himself. Good good job for Rob Blow.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, robol He's been famous for forty years.
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing when he's wearing that hat.
Speaker 1: It's like when I used to cover the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: halftime shows, and inevitably somebody would ask the warmer, who
Speaker 1: are you rooting for? On Sunday? That always go, I'm
Speaker 1: not rooting for anybody. I want both teams to do well.
Speaker 1: That's because you don't want to cut out any anybody
Speaker 1: that would potentially watch your dope new show on Fox
Speaker 1: that Rob Blows. Um, you know, so good for Rob Blow.
Speaker 1: The guy's been relevant for forty damn years, So don't
Speaker 1: get on him about the NFL hat. I thought he'll look.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're compromised here as one of the seventeen
Speaker 1: readers of his biography. That's damn right. Then. This is
Speaker 1: coming from the guy who read roblows two thousand eleven
Speaker 1: autobiography stories. I only tell my friends. I mean, to
Speaker 1: the point, you know we this the game was tales,
Speaker 1: and what you told us a bunch of tales. Dan
Speaker 1: held court on any question one might have about Roblow
Speaker 1: or might one might not have. I mean, four seventeen
Speaker 1: to eighteen straight minutes as an authority figure. I mean,
Speaker 1: the only ones who if Chadlow. Way, if Chadlow writes
Speaker 1: a book stories, I only tell my friends, he might
Speaker 1: include Chris Wesley. Chris Wesleyan is a winner today because
Speaker 1: you referred to chat Low and the tweet as my man,
Speaker 1: my man Cha. Chad Low has reached out on d
Speaker 1: M to me in the past. We are both Reds fans.
Speaker 1: He's a football fan. When I was going through cancer,
Speaker 1: he sent me a nice message. We got to talking
Speaker 1: a few times. We've chas Chad Low is. That is
Speaker 1: the brother of Rob Low, who was an actor that
Speaker 1: was well known. Uh West And by the way, whoever
Speaker 1: made that dig? About six or seven books sold? Right?
Speaker 1: Flash up that book again. Let's see that. Look at
Speaker 1: the top line right right above Roblow's Beautiful face is
Speaker 1: best seller New York Times best seller Take it all back.
Speaker 1: I see you read a best seller. It's got a
Speaker 1: gold sticker. That means something with a new introduction. Let's
Speaker 1: let's see. Let's see you look more like a sports fan.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go to a sporting event, I would
Speaker 1: wear an NFL hat over a certain team. Well, the
Speaker 1: only people that that we're mostly caring about the NFL
Speaker 1: hat thing. We're sports right, just sports reporters on that
Speaker 1: a every sports fan watching that made I mean, but
Speaker 1: Dan's point is, have you ever seen anyone wearing the easiest.
Speaker 1: I don't have a huge problem with the hat because
Speaker 1: it's right. You're just gonna take it out on this
Speaker 1: guy who looks thirty years younger than his age. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Dan, if you're going to spend twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: I mean. He also makeup called The Gray Show. The
Speaker 1: show is nine one one and it aired right after that.
Speaker 1: I think Rob has made a lot of good career choices,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it's just about getting that guap, getting the
Speaker 1: cheddar and roblow doing this dope show. Your choices. Your
Speaker 1: choices become more limited as you get older. And speaking
Speaker 1: of hats and losers, Kyle Shanahan in the UH post
Speaker 1: game on the Platform, Terry Bradshaw pulled together bro Um.
Speaker 1: He takes off the flat brim, the famous flat rim
Speaker 1: to put on those NFC Championship winner hats. Never take
Speaker 1: off the flat brim, leave the flap rid hat on.
Speaker 1: That is your good luck charm. So I'm a little
Speaker 1: worried about the Niners for that reason. You take off
Speaker 1: the flat brim you put on the swag and maybe
Speaker 1: you sold yourself to the devil. I've got I've got
Speaker 1: a loser. The the the folks that want to pay
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry a lot of money or the running backs matter,
Speaker 1: Folks like like, you can still do it if you've
Speaker 1: got the right running back. In two thousand and twenty,
Speaker 1: the starting running backs in the NFL, uh in the
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl are gonna be Raheem Mostert and
Speaker 1: Damian Williams, both undrafted on their like fourth teav and
Speaker 1: you know what's a you know it's great. Irony Levan
Speaker 1: bell a year ago saying I'm doing this for all
Speaker 1: the running backs. I'm holding out and getting a big
Speaker 1: deal to save all the other future running backs. He's
Speaker 1: ending up part of the reason why teams are afraid
Speaker 1: to give running backs money because the Jets gave him
Speaker 1: ton of doll and he flopped and he went bowling.
Speaker 1: You don't what you want? The guy committed, so you
Speaker 1: had a great season on the bowling alley. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, what a year? How about winner? Uh, Sammy Watkins?
Speaker 1: I mean this guy is Mr Mr a f C championship.
Speaker 1: Has a season high hundred and fourteen yards against the
Speaker 1: Patriots in the a f C Championship Game a year
Speaker 1: ago and goes for one fourteen again it didn't. That's
Speaker 1: fine with it. Time. He's awesome once every three months,
Speaker 1: So keep paying him. Is he a free agent? Is he?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get another during the third year of
Speaker 1: his He will not be a monster deal. Only a
Speaker 1: team based on psychotics would pay him a monster deal.
Speaker 1: At this point, I mentioned Terry Bratcher. I got him
Speaker 1: as a loser. Here. How many times you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: up that you threw eleven or twelve passes in a game? Uh,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to do this interview on the platform
Speaker 1: after the NFC title game, and then you have George
Speaker 1: Kittle there, one of the most charismatic young players in
Speaker 1: the league. He's right next to you, and then you
Speaker 1: just send him, say take this trophy and go slap hands.
Speaker 1: You ask Kittle a question, save the segment. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, you're you're in the category of people
Speaker 1: that didn't need to hear another two minute narrative about
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy eight Steelers. So I mean, I just
Speaker 1: if you base it a loan on the post game Uh,
Speaker 1: for both teams. I feel like the Chiefs are the
Speaker 1: beat you want to be on, and the Niners it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little dry unless you can get locked
Speaker 1: in with Kittle, who's a lot of fun. But we'll
Speaker 1: see you'll be on that beat. Mark one of those right,
Speaker 1: negative Miami, what will? I will be tracking things like
Speaker 1: a professional, but at my at my discretion. Good gig
Speaker 1: if you can get it. Uh, you got anything else loser?
Speaker 1: Anyone like me who climbed up on a soapbox after
Speaker 1: that Rams Chief shootout last year and looked at the
Speaker 1: landscape of football and said, hey, defense and running games
Speaker 1: are done. It's all aerial attacks. It's all gonna be
Speaker 1: fifty eight every week. Uh. You know, running backs are
Speaker 1: going the way of the Dodo bird in the fullback
Speaker 1: defense is. Linebackers are out now, you know football is
Speaker 1: The forty Niners ran as as much as anybody in
Speaker 1: the playoffs these last two games that Titans ran their
Speaker 1: way into the a f C title game. There are
Speaker 1: still many different ways to win in football. Were far
Speaker 1: from alone. That was a that was a football cognacenty wide,
Speaker 1: dirt nap crowded soapbox. I don't even know what a
Speaker 1: soapbox is. I was tell us what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: You say that, and you're and you're absolutely right, especially
Speaker 1: when you have Kyle Shanni and calling your plays. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you can run for seven yards per carry, yeah,
Speaker 1: running is pretty great. I don't know, this might be
Speaker 1: a forty four to thirty or forty one Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean I could I could see that because as
Speaker 1: as great as the forty Niners, the best defense in
Speaker 1: the NFL is the forty nine ers. They can give
Speaker 1: up three straight touchdowns like that. They did. They've done
Speaker 1: it against the Seahawks a few weeks ago, they did
Speaker 1: it today. It's like even the great defenses have trouble
Speaker 1: slowing down grade off. I mean a year ago, no
Speaker 1: one was saying the Rams were gonna score three points.
Speaker 1: So I I would just say that losers would be
Speaker 1: anyone that tell us over the next two weeks exactly
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. We've all learned, the four of us,
Speaker 1: we don't know at all what will happen. It is
Speaker 1: a complete mystery. Good thing is only two weeks of
Speaker 1: build up for a single game, So what could go wrong? Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So here is the schedule for the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast coming up. We have a show Tuesday, We'll have
Speaker 1: a show on Thursday. We'll have some fun special guests
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Mina Kimes special guests, the great Mina Kimes
Speaker 1: of ESP. I mean, she's the hottest name in uh
Speaker 1: sports Twitter right now, and we have her on the
Speaker 1: show in the studio or over the phone? How were doing? Question?
Speaker 1: Where are we getting TV? Me? I assumed she's here
Speaker 1: since she lives, you know, but I guess I didn't, didn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well me, it's gonna be on the show Thursday. That's exciting. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then we are on planes on Sunday and Monday, so
Speaker 1: no weekend show. Uh. And then once we get to Miami,
Speaker 1: we'll have a Tuesday show and Ricky's working on something
Speaker 1: special potentially for Tuesday. We'll see how that goes. How
Speaker 1: is that? Without giving anything away, Ricky, how's that going? Smooth? Salon? Now?
Speaker 1: What if, like what happens if Ryan Bartlett has to
Speaker 1: end up taking over for you, like in in Miami.
Speaker 1: Honestly I would do that for him. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to go. Um. I mean he has been able
Speaker 1: to go, but he's never you know, the chiefs are
Speaker 1: in it, so yeah, that's an easy swap. Ricky just
Speaker 1: steps down as producing for a week. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: use the vacation. That's done time. You know, we need
Speaker 1: you here for ingest whatever. That means a lot of
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, you know. Okay, we're getting you ball there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Bartlett tam Post Christ get Bartlett
Speaker 1: to Miami. Let's all figure it out as a group. Um,
Speaker 1: all right and U Yeah. So then we'll be in
Speaker 1: Miami Tuesday. We'll have a show. We'll have a show
Speaker 1: on Thursday that will be our big super Bowl preview.
Speaker 1: We'll have our live show that Thursday night. Is gonna
Speaker 1: be a ton of fun. And then of course the
Speaker 1: super Bowl recap from hard Rock Stadium. We'll be there
Speaker 1: in the flesh. So who are you going to get
Speaker 1: as like the fourth host since I'm gonna be fired
Speaker 1: after this year. It's an exciting new turn in the show.
Speaker 1: And we'll be discussing that tonight. I feel like when
Speaker 1: when it's time to call people to the carpet, as
Speaker 1: they say, Mark and I are totally in the clear. Uh,
Speaker 1: West will be He's hastigated UH for his decision to
Speaker 1: tee up Greg, who's wait right in the middle of
Speaker 1: when I was saying, but we can't say that on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Well, you know, West, a broadcasting trick is
Speaker 1: don't set the table. But you know Greg, Greg's alive wire.
Speaker 1: He's the bad boy of sports podcast. Maybe if he
Speaker 1: waits to listen to what I said. I can't believe
Speaker 1: I'm getting We're going back to un We're going back
Speaker 1: to you know two man, Yeah, how can you say?
Speaker 1: It's that very You're the one. You're the only one
Speaker 1: pedaling this there. It's like the it's not fair. I'm
Speaker 1: the one who thought of this. It's the cheating scandal
Speaker 1: and MLB. It's like there are people directly involved and
Speaker 1: they are basically just like ripples, and you're part of
Speaker 1: the ripple unfortunately. Well so whatever, you're part of a culture.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, you're like a j hinge. But I really
Speaker 1: wish they had stopped it, except them all their bosses
Speaker 1: bound sooner or later. Um ride has been going on
Speaker 1: too long, exactly. We have two spots spring bring a friend, right,
Speaker 1: that's right, Bartlet can disreplace me there alright, So that's
Speaker 1: all covered. All right, so there you go? Are we
Speaker 1: going with the cozy? Wait? Shut that down? We got Oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot about a bit of a tradition. What about
Speaker 1: you Mark? We were able to get you out after
Speaker 1: I don't think so this evening I have to go.
Speaker 1: I have a Niner's fan at home. Who is it
Speaker 1: a long held tradition? She's oiled and ready to go?
Speaker 1: That is Why are you topping yourself with more utterly
Speaker 1: ridiculous comments? Did you say oiled? That is utterly wrong
Speaker 1: with you? All right, okay, let's got the word I
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Speaker 1: mail Man, the Old Boss, Reggy. All right, Barlett ash Bag,
Speaker 1: Get Barlett to Miami until Tuesday,