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Speaker 1: I see you my look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness,
Speaker 1: ding dong les culture. Here's the actuality. Okay, yesterday I
Speaker 1: was at my beloved Famili's home, beloved and my mother
Speaker 1: had made her food and we were eating the food
Speaker 1: and I eat it a little too fast. And does
Speaker 1: this ever happen to you where it goes down the
Speaker 1: wrong pipe? But it doesn't like it goes into your sinuses?
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, that's horrible feeling. Is a meat ball
Speaker 1: in my brain currently right now? And I will come
Speaker 1: and I thought, surely it will have passed. There is
Speaker 1: a piece of food in my sinuses, and I'm starting
Speaker 1: to feel sick. Okay, here's what you do. You're gonna
Speaker 1: go to You're gonna go to your cd as. You're
Speaker 1: gonna buy pot, not anti pot. I mean it's functionally,
Speaker 1: it's the same idea, but just one of those like
Speaker 1: sailing rinces. You gotta flush that out. It feels insane.
Speaker 1: You have a meatball brain. Once I ever tell you
Speaker 1: the story about the one time I ate McDonald's too
Speaker 1: fast in high school and then fries came out of
Speaker 1: my nose. Oh no, okay, this is what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the whole story. That's the whole story. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but listen now, you've got to be careful. I have
Speaker 1: to be careful when you're eating. You got to be
Speaker 1: careful when you're eating. I used to have the worst
Speaker 1: habit of not chewing my food completely and then swallowing
Speaker 1: it and then getting stuck. And I had to what
Speaker 1: do you think that's about? It's Oh, it's about um,
Speaker 1: like what it's about the cultural ergonomics, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a very Chinese things, very immigrant narrative. It's an immigrant narrative.
Speaker 1: And I was bent over the Costco bathroom hot, bent
Speaker 1: over a gape, but I had it really hot. I
Speaker 1: had like a two inch piece of hot dogs stuck
Speaker 1: in my esophagus for about four hours, and I was
Speaker 1: just in Costco trying to wash it down, and my
Speaker 1: parents just being like, what did we do to how
Speaker 1: did this happen? What did we do to make this happen?
Speaker 1: It's good they were asking those questions, and I do
Speaker 1: blame them, and I do blame them. I do blame
Speaker 1: now um, and I blame us for getting such a
Speaker 1: good guest. I think if we have too good of
Speaker 1: a time tonight. I blame us. I blame us, and
Speaker 1: we're going to have the best time. Can I tell
Speaker 1: you what the party is? What's the party at? Chloe
Speaker 1: is crazy? Chloe is crazy, honey. It is a trove
Speaker 1: of content. Here's every day, each each day, each day,
Speaker 1: sometimes more than once a day, you'll get a treasure trove.
Speaker 1: You'll get and it will become impressions down, it will
Speaker 1: become characters down. It's impressions down. Characters down. Yeah, acting
Speaker 1: moments down, like steering wheel acting or is it's it's
Speaker 1: it's photoshoot moments, it's dance moments, it's street things. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Last night she had this fucking guy who
Speaker 1: was cat calling her, following her, and it was riveting
Speaker 1: to watch. She can turn anything into Academy Award. It's
Speaker 1: truly compelling. I'm gonna tell you where I met this person,
Speaker 1: Catherine Cohen at again, how many times do I say this?
Speaker 1: It's my favorite, It's my favorite, It's my favorite. Henry.
Speaker 1: I was guest hosting for Catherine. Yes, I remember this time.
Speaker 1: I was sitting in the audience. Our guest goes up.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she literally Catherine's emailed me like
Speaker 1: in two hours before she was like, Okay, we literally
Speaker 1: this person doesn't tell we must have her on the shop.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, coo, we'll give me your number.
Speaker 1: Came in Slade did impressions of famous celebrities giving beach.
Speaker 1: It was a moment's Blue Jays b Jo blue Jay's
Speaker 1: from Toronto, Honey, I think so funny. And then just
Speaker 1: and then the moment that you I mean, at this point,
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people follow her, but at the
Speaker 1: moment that you looked through her stuff, You're just like,
Speaker 1: it's how anyway, we're very bad. She's in town from
Speaker 1: l A. And so we have her on the pod
Speaker 1: and her name is Chloe. This is a big and
Speaker 1: also this is this is a moment where I was like,
Speaker 1: I literally have been telling people. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: Chloe Fineman's coming on the shop and people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what, oh my god, my friend Nico
Speaker 1: from l A. Okay, can we talk about what happened
Speaker 1: last night? You were walking down So it's been a
Speaker 1: It's actually I can't stop thinking about the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm not getting cat called it. I'm lamenting it um,
Speaker 1: I like tried because it was like this thing. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is content that that has legs and
Speaker 1: conversation conversation starter. I remember like wearing like putting on
Speaker 1: shorter jim shorts and going in downtown l A just
Speaker 1: like hello, like silence everywhere recently, but then when you
Speaker 1: were when you were here, when you were in school
Speaker 1: here would that happened? Yeah? Yeah, And I am more
Speaker 1: disgusting city New York, a little bit more disgusting, but
Speaker 1: also like I have a butt, and and it was
Speaker 1: nice to have it finally be acknowledged right on the street.
Speaker 1: But not last night, not like it's been silenced honestly
Speaker 1: for the last year ever since the Me Too movement.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I used to walk downtown and there's
Speaker 1: this guy in a in a driveway, a security guard,
Speaker 1: and he'd always be like, hey, lady, yeah, And I
Speaker 1: walked by and he looked at me and his mouth
Speaker 1: just was glued together. Wow the power he learned his lesson.
Speaker 1: But I hate it. And I have all these girls
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, like I don't know if I look good,
Speaker 1: Like we're so mad at getting cat cald, but we
Speaker 1: need it. How does it get reflected back is the thing? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But then okay, so then talk about this guy coming
Speaker 1: up to because this time he was really kind and
Speaker 1: I was really yeah. Yeah, but I was desperate and
Speaker 1: I was asking for it. I was in a tube
Speaker 1: top and he came, thank you, thank you. Thought e
Speaker 1: thirty Yeah, I love that. It's an embracement. It is
Speaker 1: it is how much how much time left we have
Speaker 1: on I think we can make the thirties. I think
Speaker 1: it's a thought. Thirties twenties was n y U stage blacks, Yes,
Speaker 1: and period costumes thirties are thought? Yeah? What studio were
Speaker 1: you at? Adler? Rachel? Wow? Okay, yes, the famous one?
Speaker 1: It's yeah. I mean so you're you're an a, You're
Speaker 1: in your studio blacks, You walk outside, immediately get cat called. Yes, yes, yes, Chelsea, Yes,
Speaker 1: was that a? Chelsea was in Chelsea? Great? Great? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So Adler is like a studio where they take it
Speaker 1: V seriously, so seriously. I didn't leave all four years,
Speaker 1: which is which is people know it is uncommon, very
Speaker 1: very uncommon around They dip around. They go to London
Speaker 1: experimental theater. You wanted to stay in there? I was
Speaker 1: like I need to play this fifth year old alcoholic now. Now,
Speaker 1: did you make yourself as seriously as the studio took
Speaker 1: itself more seriously? Yeah? Like I get embarrassed coming back
Speaker 1: to New York and seeing people like Rachel because they
Speaker 1: know me a certain way and when I'm desperately trying
Speaker 1: to never remember and so what way was that? Like?
Speaker 1: Did you take yourself so serious? One time I had
Speaker 1: a meltdown in the bathroom over a roll and the
Speaker 1: head of the Stella Adler's grandson, Tom Openheim, banged on
Speaker 1: the door and Tom was like, like I was just
Speaker 1: weeping and he was banging on the door. He's like, Chloe, Chloe,
Speaker 1: come out, Chloe, please let us talk to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like and I'm like talking to my
Speaker 1: mom and she's like, what is wrong? Like people are
Speaker 1: going to worry. And then of course they were worried
Speaker 1: and they came out and then they went up to
Speaker 1: the front desk and they're like, it's okay, it happens
Speaker 1: at least once a while. But see this thing like
Speaker 1: as someone who like secretly always she really wanted to
Speaker 1: be a tische kid while but I want Yes, I
Speaker 1: got into dramatic because it was the quote unquote easiest
Speaker 1: to get into right and I was like, even more
Speaker 1: to eat away. Then I also feel like the most sustainable.
Speaker 1: I'm happy I went now. At the time, I agree
Speaker 1: with what Bone is about to say, you really wanted
Speaker 1: that kind of acting eduction. Secretly, I was like, I
Speaker 1: am not in the right place. You wanted the passion,
Speaker 1: wanted the passion. But but my conception of what drama
Speaker 1: school was like was crying in a bathroom and Stella's
Speaker 1: grants On knocked me on the door. There was and then,
Speaker 1: and I also never forget there was I gotten a
Speaker 1: huge fight because the casting of the plays had come
Speaker 1: out and I was cast as Lady Macbeth. Fabulous, and
Speaker 1: I did because it's a great role that people were
Speaker 1: out to kill me. Oh yeah, I've experienced that. And
Speaker 1: this girl and this girl's boyfriend was Macbeth, and she
Speaker 1: was so upset and so mean that she started running
Speaker 1: down the halls weeping, and I was like, Eleanor, Eleanor,
Speaker 1: Like Eleanor, let's talk Eleanor, because she's like because she
Speaker 1: like desperately wanted to be Lady mnem to do a
Speaker 1: power couple do the play. And I remember like circling
Speaker 1: her and I was like eleanor talk. She was like no,
Speaker 1: and she always wore like really fancy Mark Jacobs because
Speaker 1: and when he has like those rich kids. She was
Speaker 1: like draped in couture and like ignoring me. And then
Speaker 1: Ellen Adler Stella Adler's grandmother sauce and she was crying
Speaker 1: and she goes, if my mother knew that you girls
Speaker 1: were arguing on Russia, Shanna, I swear to god, this
Speaker 1: was like this was this is like, yeah, wow, that
Speaker 1: is stemcasting. Go Ultimately, oh, I'm very either, Okay. So
Speaker 1: they brought in a director who directs Shakespeare, like the
Speaker 1: Harlem Shakespeare Company, so it was not used to directing
Speaker 1: whites in their early nine like twenty year old white
Speaker 1: white white girl. And so I was like he wanted
Speaker 1: me to like spit on McBeth and like grab his
Speaker 1: I do do this thing where I was like how
Speaker 1: you know, and I would like fake grab his balls
Speaker 1: and lick him in the eyes because she's the power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's got the power to be like was like you
Speaker 1: know the baby line, I don't know. I don't remember
Speaker 1: it either. Never was top drunk grab balls him in
Speaker 1: the eyes, spit. It was very and you did that.
Speaker 1: I did that, and I was doing it and I
Speaker 1: hit him or something and he was like whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And his direction was like, come on,
Speaker 1: she's crazy, she's crazy. And so I spit on him,
Speaker 1: and the directors like, why did you do that? Like what?
Speaker 1: That was so crazy? And I was like, we told
Speaker 1: me she's crazy. He goes, no, no, no, like, damn
Speaker 1: you crazy, Oh my god, and he was white. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm old white of telling you. And so the day
Speaker 1: that we premiere our show, he sits us down and
Speaker 1: he's like, enjoy this because then you're probably never going
Speaker 1: to play these rules again. What I remember this, God
Speaker 1: rest her soul. But she would funk with my head.
Speaker 1: So we did an tish main stage of Murat Sad.
Speaker 1: But I remember that I played the marquis Assad Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And it was controversy because I was in
Speaker 1: dramatic writing. But I was one of Liz's favorites. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could say now, but she selected and I remember
Speaker 1: I got the people. They it's gross. They I mean,
Speaker 1: they were so upset and I guess they had a point,
Speaker 1: because I was not a drama student. I would hear
Speaker 1: I was in the main stage. But I kind of
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, this is what happens in
Speaker 1: the industry. Models are going to take your part. Somebody
Speaker 1: you compared herself to models, to models who had no
Speaker 1: rights to take the jobs. But I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I honestly was just like fighting, fighting, fighting
Speaker 1: to be accepted. Um. And then of course there was
Speaker 1: of course all the pressure on me to be good
Speaker 1: at the part. And then you add on to it.
Speaker 1: By the way, they made it a punk rock musical.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, Yeah, oh that
Speaker 1: was me. I sang the song where we got whipped,
Speaker 1: and it was like a punk rock ballad. It actually
Speaker 1: was pretty badass. I don't know if I did it
Speaker 1: when they were remember a single fucking thing. No, it
Speaker 1: was like it was crazy. It was just like being
Speaker 1: under nine year old screaming a bunch of like fucking
Speaker 1: white because they said it. They said it in a
Speaker 1: detention facility for like troubled youth, and we They also
Speaker 1: had us write her own monologues as the characters in
Speaker 1: top of doing the text, which was musicalized in punk rock.
Speaker 1: It was insane. But I remember Liz would drive me
Speaker 1: nuts because she'd give me different direction every day and
Speaker 1: totally they're like. She's like, no, I want the character
Speaker 1: to be like Steven Tyler. So then I would come
Speaker 1: in and I'd be like Steven Tyler. She goes when
Speaker 1: when she said Steven Tyler, I was like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you wanted to be like an active rock star. You
Speaker 1: wanted to be like coming in with swags. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: it should be much more moody than that. I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: Steven Tyler isn't. And I kind of realized that she
Speaker 1: she either one of two things, didn't know what she
Speaker 1: wanted and was gonna when she saw it was like
Speaker 1: do that, or she wanted me to be confused. She
Speaker 1: constantly wanted to to keep it fresh and have you
Speaker 1: switched back, And I think what she wanted was for
Speaker 1: me to be like a lunatic. Yeah, and she succeeded.
Speaker 1: I was fully crazy black like and that like my
Speaker 1: personality looked like a villain and I was regnize you
Speaker 1: probably I remember Black Swan had just come out, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: remember this two? Is that Tisstone Black? That changed that
Speaker 1: changed the way you thought. I remember one time I
Speaker 1: had a this is the most n y U story,
Speaker 1: and I probably have told I had a fight with
Speaker 1: my voice teacher who asked me to He asked me
Speaker 1: to sing that rock ballad in in voice class with him,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't gone over it with him because he
Speaker 1: he was trying to get me to sing want a
Speaker 1: Beautiful Are and I just was like, this is not
Speaker 1: the way I sing. So he's like, can you sing
Speaker 1: the ballot that you sing in the show from me? Now?
Speaker 1: I want to hear the way you're singing it. He
Speaker 1: told me I could tell you that you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to go on stage singing it the way you sing it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I have to sing it like
Speaker 1: from my gut, like gets like it's like a I'm
Speaker 1: like thrashing around getting whipped while I do it. It's
Speaker 1: like I have to I can't really sing it like this.
Speaker 1: I can't do it like this. I have to do
Speaker 1: it like the way I'm being directed to do it.
Speaker 1: He goes, this is my tische sucks. They can't so
Speaker 1: they don't teach you how to sing correctly. Starting hard
Speaker 1: is the only place you learned how to sing correctly.
Speaker 1: We got fight. We got to a fight, and I
Speaker 1: walked from that class like Natalie Portman in the last
Speaker 1: scene of Black Swan walking to Lincoln Center like crazed
Speaker 1: her hair, like I was like, and I've stormed in,
Speaker 1: like threw my makeup on the table and did my
Speaker 1: makeup and it was like truly tips, you don't get
Speaker 1: more tish than that, and gave like a seven out
Speaker 1: of ten performance. Probably. I remember seeing Black Swan in
Speaker 1: the Union Square. I saw in that theater and I
Speaker 1: saw it with a girl and we were in the
Speaker 1: middle of a play, and I was so triggered by
Speaker 1: it because I felt like I like, I really like
Speaker 1: it was my story that she was like are you okay?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I have to go take a
Speaker 1: lap And I walked alone like around Union Square and
Speaker 1: just like processed the good for not a good movie
Speaker 1: for narcissistic. It was like, it was like, this narcissism
Speaker 1: story is my story. There's a kernel of truth to this.
Speaker 1: Both of you should be arrested for that behavior. I
Speaker 1: feel like I also was very sexually reckless at the
Speaker 1: top hot producer Alex wasn't. It was in drama school
Speaker 1: at n y o Oh better, that's better. Creative writing
Speaker 1: was cool. I would have paid Alex for an actor
Speaker 1: this whole time. I'm sorry you did. Here's a fabulous
Speaker 1: actor and a great director. Yeah, wonderful, I too a
Speaker 1: creative writing. And there was a girl who would show
Speaker 1: up with an entire pumpkin. Veganism had like just hit
Speaker 1: and this girl show was like a baked pumpkin that
Speaker 1: she'd unwrap the tinfoil and that should just eat the
Speaker 1: pumpkin alright, and she was iconic. She was. Actually, pumpkins are,
Speaker 1: especially in October. They are there we go, they are,
Speaker 1: you know, the pumpkin spices back, they are, I like
Speaker 1: the cabocca squash a lot. What's this? It's a Japanese pumpkin.
Speaker 1: My real vegetables Japanese, like the Japanese sweet potato Japanese.
Speaker 1: You you're tarot girl. Yeah? Have you been to the
Speaker 1: East You have to go. You have to go to
Speaker 1: any McDonald's in East Asia and they'll have apple pie.
Speaker 1: But then in the same pastries the apple pie, they'll
Speaker 1: put tarot in it. Really it's so good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous thing to cook though, yes, I'm from Berkeley,
Speaker 1: and so we like are really eccentric, like a white
Speaker 1: person being like, let me tell you how to prepare taro,
Speaker 1: but you have to you can like poison yourself if
Speaker 1: you don't like so good or something. Yeah, even I
Speaker 1: don't know that. Wait can we talk about this? Okay,
Speaker 1: so what do you think? Because at this point it
Speaker 1: seems like you've undone all of this like wild histrionic
Speaker 1: like drama school behavioral stuff. But but will you will
Speaker 1: you can look back on it now and be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I was a nightmare.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I was that person. Like whether or
Speaker 1: not you're a nightmare is up to someone else. That's true,
Speaker 1: that's but um, what do you think was the thing
Speaker 1: that helped you? Like, was it just time or like
Speaker 1: because because at what point do you look back on
Speaker 1: yourself and be like, oh, I can't believe I was
Speaker 1: that person? Um getting into comedy, I had no sense
Speaker 1: of humor. But but all throughout Tish was like this
Speaker 1: is so dumb. You know, you knew at the back,
Speaker 1: like Rachel was like they knew they were funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but even Rachel didn't get into comedy. It didn't exist.
Speaker 1: It truly did not exist in that space. It didn't
Speaker 1: exist in that space. Yeah. Um. But also we had
Speaker 1: this awful class where they like type cast nineteen year
Speaker 1: old basically so good year old. And I remember like that,
Speaker 1: like that day you'd come in and be like, well,
Speaker 1: people tell me I kind of like Kate wins Let,
Speaker 1: you know, so I guess I'm like and like I
Speaker 1: remember like Rachel going up in some other funny Jewish
Speaker 1: girls and then being like, you're funny, You're this meets that,
Speaker 1: You're you're hilarious, you say that, you know, the Jewish
Speaker 1: Jewish girls got to be funny. And then I went
Speaker 1: up and I had highlights, which I still do. And
Speaker 1: they're like elegant and complicated and they think they know
Speaker 1: what they're talking about and all they do is get
Speaker 1: kids so in their heads that they can right. And
Speaker 1: I literally like, but I am. And then I had
Speaker 1: to be like, you can't be like I think funny.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't look funny. They do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have friends that went to Kept twenty one two
Speaker 1: and they were the same thing. I mean, Dave gets
Speaker 1: told all the time, like he said he got told
Speaker 1: a lot like you will never ever be funny. You
Speaker 1: are only handsome, like he said, he'll Steven say, it's
Speaker 1: like you go up there and they s s s
Speaker 1: you and they and they're out of work. I mean
Speaker 1: not to ship, but like they don't have jobs. They're
Speaker 1: just working in I mean they work in the school where. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they sat us down, They sat us down. This
Speaker 1: guy and he pointed to all of us and he'd
Speaker 1: go romantically, character actor, romantically character actor, and then in between,
Speaker 1: did you ever hear the story? Like they had this
Speaker 1: dance teacher. I guess his name was like Lloyd or something,
Speaker 1: and he would just go and he'd be like chorus lead, funny,
Speaker 1: no career, what a night. He would just like they
Speaker 1: would call him real life Lloyd. He give you the
Speaker 1: real life and it makes you so self involved. My
Speaker 1: friend was staying with me at the time, and I
Speaker 1: had everyone from our class come over and like point
Speaker 1: and be like, well, you know you are you are
Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams, just like no, but like you really are,
Speaker 1: Like you're sweet. You don't see it, but you are,
Speaker 1: and we are. That's how we see you. And my
Speaker 1: friend she was like a journal she's like a hyper
Speaker 1: genius journalist student was like why are you here? Like
Speaker 1: this was so traumatic and gross for me to witness. God,
Speaker 1: I mean like I'm still like reckoning with that bullshit
Speaker 1: from high school and that's like there's no structure behind that.
Speaker 1: But like I high school, I haven't in high school.
Speaker 1: I just have like shitty adults who like didn't know
Speaker 1: what they were talking about. Be like, you will never
Speaker 1: be like the lead, Like like you will never be
Speaker 1: like someone who will be like prominently featured on stage,
Speaker 1: like make it work. Make it work as like like
Speaker 1: milk it as a chorus member that somebody said to
Speaker 1: me one time, not handsome enough to be the star,
Speaker 1: but not ugly enough to be the best friend. So
Speaker 1: what And yeah, I'm like I'm holding my face right
Speaker 1: now and you guys can see. It gets worse in
Speaker 1: l A. Yeah, but then it's like funny and you
Speaker 1: have you know who you are kind of. I mean
Speaker 1: I know that I don't like to beat myself auditions
Speaker 1: in l A. I mean I've only done it like
Speaker 1: for one week. But like the people who work those
Speaker 1: are their own breed of people. They're just like I mean,
Speaker 1: like I mean the people who run the casting people like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I did one with with this woman who like
Speaker 1: worked out of a bungalow, lovely bungalow and silver lace.
Speaker 1: You did, Oh that's a big deal to get to
Speaker 1: her bungalow. I know who you're talking about. She has
Speaker 1: like she has like hair, Yeah, good for you to
Speaker 1: get that. Didn't have didn't have any side. She was
Speaker 1: off book with with with the whole the whole thing
Speaker 1: was giving me like full like grounded realism, Like hey,
Speaker 1: so and I was like, oh, we're just doing it.
Speaker 1: Like she walked into the room, she sits down, and
Speaker 1: then she just starts. She starts, she started the scene,
Speaker 1: just started the scene, and I was like, and it
Speaker 1: was fun. And then like afterwards, she goes, yeah, okay, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a needed to come back in tomorrow. Okay, Josh
Speaker 1: needs like with what the guy needs to She's like,
Speaker 1: Josh needs to see you, and yeah, I see what
Speaker 1: you're doing. And just like it was just like so bizarre.
Speaker 1: It was lovely, Like it was a positive experience. But
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, people in l A are so
Speaker 1: specific and how they do that. Yeah, it's well they
Speaker 1: say it's harder, it's harder than theater, the specificity of
Speaker 1: the choices. I agree with that. It's true because when
Speaker 1: you when you're acting on stage, you can perform, but
Speaker 1: when you are acting on camera, you have to be acting.
Speaker 1: You can't hide from the camera. Yeah, there's this awful
Speaker 1: teacher who actually she Have you heard about this like
Speaker 1: drama that happened where this woman told the Jewish girl
Speaker 1: to right were we talking about that? We were, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love talking about I can't like a Jewish girl
Speaker 1: that she should that she should change her name to
Speaker 1: Rosa Ramirez. So that's she's based in New York. This
Speaker 1: this person the teacher teacher's Yeah, I was in her
Speaker 1: class and around that time, and I ended up dropping
Speaker 1: out and used this to get out of it. But
Speaker 1: I remember I like showed up and wasn't fully off book,
Speaker 1: and she looked at me and was like, how can
Speaker 1: I critique your acting when you're not off book? And
Speaker 1: he literally said like the instead of and it was
Speaker 1: like yeah, wait, wait and wait. My lane was like
Speaker 1: the it was like procedural doctor side that like, I'll
Speaker 1: never ever go out for has anything with my life.
Speaker 1: I was like the spinal Fifida and she's how Yeah,
Speaker 1: how can I critique acting if you're not book? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That is I kind of that, I know. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I was like kind of like I kind of think
Speaker 1: you're amazing. Wow, it's like that cold like authority without
Speaker 1: raising your voice. It's just it's literally it's what you
Speaker 1: did the other day. It's barely raises her voice and stillness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but those like I've been like ever since I've thought
Speaker 1: of that, Like I'm just like I'm trying to emulate, Like,
Speaker 1: but then you seem like you have that has to
Speaker 1: be earned, Like I can't just do that from now on,
Speaker 1: Like what the funk are you doing? To be quiet?
Speaker 1: And like still? Well, that's the weird thing, right, It's
Speaker 1: like at this stage of our career where it's like
Speaker 1: starting out, it's like you go in there and you
Speaker 1: make a big choice and they're like, what the funk?
Speaker 1: What do they think they are? Like why didn't they
Speaker 1: do what they were supposed to? But it's like, but
Speaker 1: but I'm told to choices. I had a really bad
Speaker 1: My worst audition like so far was in New York,
Speaker 1: like it in the winter. I don't say what it was,
Speaker 1: but like what was the experience was I showed up.
Speaker 1: I had a fun rainbow sweater that that was like
Speaker 1: trending at the time. I love a trend and the
Speaker 1: woman I like, sit down. I brought like glasses because
Speaker 1: she was a nerd, and then she was like, please
Speaker 1: take up for sweater like I was wearing like a
Speaker 1: silk and brawn. I was like, yeah, So I took
Speaker 1: off this sweater and I like did it? And she
Speaker 1: was like, do you act? And I was like what
Speaker 1: she's like when, I mean, you do the skits and
Speaker 1: the sketches, but do you act scripted scripted material? Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, well this is this just goes
Speaker 1: to that saying. But I'm just realizing this again now
Speaker 1: it's so much worse for women. I was no casting
Speaker 1: director has really never never never. Maybe a man really
Speaker 1: and then I take that. I'm like, oh great, she
Speaker 1: we're just cleaning out. But sometimes it's it's the maybe
Speaker 1: a game man would be like sweetie, coming coming to
Speaker 1: do this, like no, and maybe commercial commercially, the directors
Speaker 1: commercials are a little bit more like um, just like
Speaker 1: not willing to engage. But that's kind of the nature
Speaker 1: of that. But I've woman's trip like that to another
Speaker 1: woman is I felt so bad and because I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not good at multiicam. Yet I got it, you know.
Speaker 1: It was like I got it the night before. I
Speaker 1: had like five hours. It was eight pages. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I hate what people call like what we do skitsure.
Speaker 1: They're called stitches, I mean. And then so then comedy
Speaker 1: was this thing that, like you would say, helped undo
Speaker 1: a lot of this. Absolutely. Yeah. When you graduate Adler,
Speaker 1: they don't really give you, like any career advice because
Speaker 1: you're just used to playing these alcoholics and nailing them,
Speaker 1: nailing them, And so they sent you across the street
Speaker 1: to one on one you know that play one on
Speaker 1: one studios. It's on and they've casting director workshops, so
Speaker 1: you go to those learn how to do on camera,
Speaker 1: and like I would go to those and like cry
Speaker 1: and do those kind of things and they're like we
Speaker 1: want to see your funnies night. Um. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: was until I moved l A and just was like
Speaker 1: really lost that got into it? How did you get
Speaker 1: into it? Um? My mom told me to do improv
Speaker 1: to find a guy. Well I went to Growlings and
Speaker 1: I was like they're all gay, very gay. It's my home,
Speaker 1: it's women and gays, like one strike Eye from Ohio. Well,
Speaker 1: and he's probably wonderful. Yeah he is. It's like literally Indiana, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Everyone else is gay and women. It feels like the
Speaker 1: Growlings is but it's very gay. But it's also well
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say this, but it's a little homophonic. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like Drew d like, my here's my divine and yeah,
Speaker 1: my divine inspiration. I like, I've loved him forever and
Speaker 1: he was not a groundling, which blows my mind because
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most talented people of
Speaker 1: all times. Azing, like, where did he come up again?
Speaker 1: I thought for the worst time, I thought it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. And they like just this year are
Speaker 1: letting men play women, like it's just a slower game. Really,
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I like it there because all the
Speaker 1: teachers are women, and I like the u cvs like
Speaker 1: it kind of kept me in l a for a
Speaker 1: while because I felt like I could develop as like
Speaker 1: a female. Yeah, I hear that. I think that, UCB.
Speaker 1: It's only recently. And when I say recently, I think
Speaker 1: in the last five or six years it's become this
Speaker 1: place where it's like you see more than one queer person,
Speaker 1: gay person, more than one woman, Like now there's like
Speaker 1: a whole community, large community of people New York scene
Speaker 1: that are like we're queer or like even just like
Speaker 1: you see more than now. I think it is the
Speaker 1: only time, and I think it did have a lot
Speaker 1: to do with having a female actressy director, where the
Speaker 1: a lot most of the teams are half women half men,
Speaker 1: but that was not the case in l A. You'd
Speaker 1: like walk in and you'd be blinded by the platt.
Speaker 1: You sort of like see like all this, you'd see
Speaker 1: like the kids or whatever, or the converse, and then
Speaker 1: the plat and then you'd have to like look up
Speaker 1: because everyone was so tall. Then classes there I started
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, and it was like it was it's
Speaker 1: already like it's already like vulnerable, and you're anxious taking
Speaker 1: it in prov class and because you don't you don't
Speaker 1: know what you're doing right right, And then when it's
Speaker 1: everyone is like a certain type of person, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, I'm gonna die. You
Speaker 1: know what's so interesting? I was talking to someone, um
Speaker 1: maritzaone tany is she teaches his UCB one on one now.
Speaker 1: She's great, but she wasna her and like I was
Speaker 1: catching up with her and she was like, yea, I'm
Speaker 1: teaching classes now, and then she brought up something interesting
Speaker 1: where she was like, it's interesting giving feedback to people
Speaker 1: in one on one where they don't have the language yet,
Speaker 1: Like they don't have the language for you to say like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not playing game. This was off game, like the
Speaker 1: only way you can note these people at when I
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, hey, that wasn't funny. You can't
Speaker 1: make a disabled joke because that's not funny. It's every yeah,
Speaker 1: and when people start out, they don't know how to
Speaker 1: not be right. It's those are my treasure trouves are
Speaker 1: those one on one classes and to one Yeah, in
Speaker 1: terms of your your own stuff like watching other people,
Speaker 1: watching other people and like I remember I had to
Speaker 1: repeat to one for something like I don't I like
Speaker 1: took a while together and in l A. The people
Speaker 1: who take those classes are like business like for so long,
Speaker 1: it's no one who actually wants to do it, which
Speaker 1: makes it so fun and funny. Yeah, like really old people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's always the one like really outliery person New York
Speaker 1: in New York. Well, in any class, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's never yeah yeah there was. There was like a glitch.
Speaker 1: I was signing up for four one. There was I
Speaker 1: was signing up for four oh one. I took four
Speaker 1: a one with Doug mo and it was like there
Speaker 1: was only eight people in the class due to a glitch,
Speaker 1: and like so that one guy was like in every
Speaker 1: scene because he just bied. By nature of it, we
Speaker 1: all did more scenes because there was only eight of us,
Speaker 1: and so it just became so overwhelming that it was
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I can do this, But
Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: miss being in classes. I never fried there. I was
Speaker 1: never the person that was like crushing it in class.
Speaker 1: That's what you don't want to be that. That's what
Speaker 1: I wasn't And I crushed class and failed at life.
Speaker 1: For interesting, that's a gross thing. I crushed No, no, no,
Speaker 1: But that's very like the teacher, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say I didn't love classes that you cev.
Speaker 1: I mean they were they were great, they're necessary, but
Speaker 1: like I would say that I was always a good
Speaker 1: student in class. And then outside in the outside world,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, whoa, I'm terrible at this and I
Speaker 1: still have this weird thing with him prop now. But anyway, um,
Speaker 1: I think I think that is like such a good
Speaker 1: I think that's such a rich like trajectory, topography whatever
Speaker 1: for you, because it's like tophy just like I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're just like evening that out in such a nice
Speaker 1: swear where it like but like re re equilibrates using
Speaker 1: all these big words. It comes in handy for like impressions. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all those years of impression impression. Can we get into
Speaker 1: this like like I don't want to get to process
Speaker 1: oriented e on this, but like I have five beverages,
Speaker 1: a solid five beverages on so let's just talk about
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Speaker 1: I feel tired? Great? What's this year? We have Lineman's
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Speaker 1: taking my time and of course a canned cold and
Speaker 1: I was just paid for something, so I actually spent
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. Okay, nothing you got paid to have beverages.
Speaker 1: I love beverages, and then I always forget how expensive
Speaker 1: it's going to be, right, especially what the juice press
Speaker 1: probably eight nine bucks. I think I forgot that you
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Speaker 1: like a I could post it is. It's a tableau. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: did you discover you could do them? And like when
Speaker 1: I had to first submitting for some stuff from some stuff.
Speaker 1: So so really, oh it was you had only when
Speaker 1: you had to to discover Yeah, because that UCB they're
Speaker 1: not allowed to write in your mode audition you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to, and groundlings you're not allowed to. You're not
Speaker 1: allowed to groundlings either. They encourage no impressions from impression.
Speaker 1: We were I remember like in a class doing like
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore or something and being like, Oh, I guess
Speaker 1: I actually sound like her. That's crazy, like that literally crazy,
Speaker 1: um flower films, flower pressed crocks. This is why I
Speaker 1: want to get into like what what are the first
Speaker 1: little things that you key and on or is it
Speaker 1: just more of a holistic thing more in the whole.
Speaker 1: I think it depends. I think like my brain was
Speaker 1: washed because we had voice class for like three days
Speaker 1: a week, and so I usually go to the voice
Speaker 1: first because I feel like I'm like, it's the only
Speaker 1: way I feel like I'm actually applying undergrad. That's actually
Speaker 1: said the same thing last her about impression. Really like
Speaker 1: she said that she doesn't even watch videos of people
Speaker 1: necessarily at first, she listens to them. Oh really, I know,
Speaker 1: I watched it's a lot of like mindless YouTube and
Speaker 1: then kind of like finding what makes you laugh, Like
Speaker 1: I just watched them until something they do makes me laugh, right,
Speaker 1: and then because you have to have a take sure,
Speaker 1: which I find hard, I find it easier to be them,
Speaker 1: to just be them, yeah, like okay, like with g
Speaker 1: G for example, and that was her voice. That was
Speaker 1: her voice. I was watching Vogu twenty one questions and
Speaker 1: being like, what Atrocian So I really likes pizza and
Speaker 1: you're like you look like a cat goddess and the
Speaker 1: voice of like a seven year old boy. Yeah, it's whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's like kind of it's like she's from Malibu
Speaker 1: and things aren't pronounced correctly, and yeah, I think my
Speaker 1: favorite that you do is Nicole Kim in Big Little Lives.
Speaker 1: The Wigges thinks that was you make me laugh. That
Speaker 1: was pressure to submitted tate for something, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I could do big a lot of
Speaker 1: love and I locked myself. I didn't have HBO in
Speaker 1: my apartments. When I drove to San Francisca. What I
Speaker 1: was like, Man, when I have a deadline, I like, man,
Speaker 1: we're like I notice in l A and they're like
Speaker 1: I have to write, and they're like in a hotel,
Speaker 1: so everyone's like at the Madonna and I understand it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm gonna go home three days,
Speaker 1: like a day of it was in travel. I literally
Speaker 1: drove and and just like watched it and yeah, her
Speaker 1: laugh made me laugh. We have a tape she so
Speaker 1: funny came into because like stunning performance, she's incredible. But
Speaker 1: does she slip into her own accent often? Yes she does, honey,
Speaker 1: and you can't deny, but you're still I had that
Speaker 1: sag ballot in my hands and I checked, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no what's the scene in the therapist office. It's like stunning,
Speaker 1: It's absolutely, I mean just that just one scene that
Speaker 1: was amazing, the first one, the last. The therapist actress
Speaker 1: I forgot her name, is incredible and she was she
Speaker 1: was in Deadwood. She's like Angels in America. Here the
Speaker 1: player that she was like one of the figurines in
Speaker 1: the museum that comes to life and talks to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's amazing. She's amazing. Um, but yeah, that therapist, oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. No, I'm not accepting not
Speaker 1: knowing her name. I think it's Aaron no, and the
Speaker 1: way she just like gently prods the questions. Robin, She's
Speaker 1: tremendous and she just played a fucking great therapist, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like that's and and Nicole and
Speaker 1: the way that Nicole responds to Alexander in that scene amazing.
Speaker 1: I'd also think Alexander scars Guard, he's amazing every award
Speaker 1: wanting because the show doesn't work without him being terrifying
Speaker 1: and terrible. And you have to imagine that a lot
Speaker 1: of actors were like hesitant to do something like that
Speaker 1: because when you're too good at playing that, it's like,
Speaker 1: especially now, it's like you know what I mean, you
Speaker 1: get people are so stupid they can't separate the two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's tremendous. And then with Okay, and then Hannah Gadsby,
Speaker 1: that was that was voice and like that was like
Speaker 1: my friend Casey, who I Chartie Party sixty nine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: chartis the best. Um, we were like thinking of new
Speaker 1: ones to do, and he's like, I think you should
Speaker 1: take on Hannah. Like we treated like a I mean,
Speaker 1: you should do Hannah And that was really hard. I
Speaker 1: had to watch her a lot. And then even when
Speaker 1: we shot the video the first forty five, Like we
Speaker 1: had like so many first takes of it and it
Speaker 1: was sounded like Emma Thompson doing an impression of it
Speaker 1: was just like a bad Emma Thompson impression. For so
Speaker 1: long I loved the beast Strop you guys used it's like,
Speaker 1: and then like, oh my god, we just do it
Speaker 1: for fun, because finding the green screen, like finding the
Speaker 1: images honestly one of the most fun. Well, the fun
Speaker 1: of it really comes through. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because it feels like Drew even it feels like is
Speaker 1: my divine inspiration. He really he's carved the path. I
Speaker 1: mean truly, like Drew was one of these first people
Speaker 1: in this modern contemporary whatever said internet comedy or internet
Speaker 1: comedy where Matt and I were like, who is this?
Speaker 1: Chloe was huge, huge, me too, And when when I
Speaker 1: found out he taught at Groundlings, I lost my ship
Speaker 1: and I ran to his class and he's a really
Speaker 1: intense teacher. He's like, no, no, I wouldn't know, shut up,
Speaker 1: shut up like that. I love that. That is that
Speaker 1: sounds silar than like any sort of drama school Adler
Speaker 1: like it is it totally. I felt at home at
Speaker 1: Groundlings because the teachers are really like mean, but it's
Speaker 1: funny in a way that it's like that makes you
Speaker 1: want to do better. We're not in a very stressful way,
Speaker 1: and it's stressful, but it's not as destructive as like
Speaker 1: someone at Adler being like not like I don't know, well,
Speaker 1: my first like my first impression, I'm being so gross.
Speaker 1: But my very first impression was our Shakespeare teacher that
Speaker 1: I have this active teacher character. That's me just doing
Speaker 1: an impression of this old gay man who taught us Shakespeare,
Speaker 1: who was like, you have to growl up, yeah, wish
Speaker 1: to come up in your air playing Lady Macbeth. You
Speaker 1: have to grob you have to grow a penis at
Speaker 1: the time. You have to grow a penis like Puss
Speaker 1: in the Ring and I we're eighteen, yeah, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, a teacher is using the word pussy pussy.
Speaker 1: If you were doing Hamlet and I was a feeling
Speaker 1: he would ruffle your hair and then whisper in your
Speaker 1: ear and that's just sucking. But that's like, that's that's
Speaker 1: sling blade. So I feel like you would not fly today.
Speaker 1: But I loved that. No, I mean, what the thing
Speaker 1: is like the impressions for me are the hardest. I'm
Speaker 1: knocking at them. So what I always do is I
Speaker 1: pick a take and it's kind of like, though, that's
Speaker 1: like what you really should do. It has to have
Speaker 1: a take well when it can be when people can
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, that was such a good impression.
Speaker 1: I think that's great. Those have to have to to
Speaker 1: what all of yours have strong takes. But the thing
Speaker 1: is like, like I see people like my Rudolf, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good impressionist, but she always has
Speaker 1: the funniest her Beyonce is like, it's a fine Beyonce.
Speaker 1: But for example, we were watching her do Omarosa from
Speaker 1: way back and it was that's part problem problematic? Am
Speaker 1: I wrong? Yes? Yes, well yeah, But the thing is
Speaker 1: it was like it was she did she did my
Speaker 1: roudof and she spoke in a voice that was like
Speaker 1: her mid Atlantics of hilarious. It's you don't care that
Speaker 1: it's not a good omarosa because it was it's so funny.
Speaker 1: So like, but like I remember I in my JFL
Speaker 1: said I had a Channing Tatum and it's not a
Speaker 1: good I danced a little bit music crippoling Insecure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's mad. He's and it's very upset that people
Speaker 1: like him for his body are not his actor. But
Speaker 1: that like's like he's a really good act He's actually
Speaker 1: he's dropped in Honey, He's dropped right in Adler. No.
Speaker 1: But like the thing is like it's like for people
Speaker 1: that cannot do impressions like myself, but can do original characters,
Speaker 1: it's like you gotta just like make sure you cover
Speaker 1: it up with like a fucking take, because I mean
Speaker 1: I see people like you and people that can do
Speaker 1: impressions and I'm like, Jesus Christ, that's like a whole
Speaker 1: other fucking bla. It's like it's so, it's so, but
Speaker 1: you're way you're talking about it, It's like you do
Speaker 1: have to go about it the same way. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just you watch it a lot, and like sometimes they're
Speaker 1: really bad until they're good. That's what it is. You
Speaker 1: just make and gets good. But then like the thing
Speaker 1: about Cloe is that she also just has like a
Speaker 1: good observational lens in general, like steering wheel acting, I
Speaker 1: think that's the best, so good, so good. You're the
Speaker 1: Queen of steering. You do it better than who who
Speaker 1: was that? Who does well? Okay, so it's honestly, it
Speaker 1: started with the Net and American. Yeah, there's like five
Speaker 1: accounts of it, and then um, they do it in
Speaker 1: big little lies a lot. That's my favorite. That's when
Speaker 1: I that's my favorite team. And that's when Nicole Kidman's
Speaker 1: like and she does her like this thing. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: hand paws. That that's steering mail. And then Elizabeth Moss
Speaker 1: did it in Handmaid's Tale so much. She does it
Speaker 1: like four times and that's that's like she has the
Speaker 1: weal and she's like, fuck, it's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1: There's powerful, it's so powerful, and it's how you win awards.
Speaker 1: Like I really feel like it's gonna get her, might
Speaker 1: get her another. I mean I wanted to go to Sandra.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this and I can. I could
Speaker 1: go to Sandra and then one other person. I mean,
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Moss is a performance is so undeniable that it's
Speaker 1: like she doesn't talk like well with diet like the stuff.
Speaker 1: The way Sandra makes words come out of her. I know,
Speaker 1: sund really she's a prophet. She the way like I
Speaker 1: would never make those words come out like they're so
Speaker 1: authentic and emotional. Time. When I when when I did
Speaker 1: the Sandra lip sync, I was like, wow, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, and I know that when you did that,
Speaker 1: she's doing she's making a lot, like so many micro
Speaker 1: choices and the way that you felt yeah something and
Speaker 1: then yeah it's so delicious and then and then the
Speaker 1: end and that will never And also it's just like
Speaker 1: you read you look at just the words and you think, wow,
Speaker 1: if I got this as an actor, like it would
Speaker 1: be so different and so much worse, because much worse.
Speaker 1: It's just like she's such she uses words. Yeah, words
Speaker 1: are like played with. I look up the other nominees
Speaker 1: because I feel like if it's not Elizabeth, and if
Speaker 1: it's not Sandra, then it's someone else. I mean nominations. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a great year though. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of steering reacting in sharp objects. But I find
Speaker 1: that show hard to hard to watch because yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's like I would watch it eating breakfast and then
Speaker 1: be like it's not good. It's slow. And I love
Speaker 1: Amy Adams, I do give you obsessed with her, but
Speaker 1: not mentioning it's it's a tough one for me. It's tough.
Speaker 1: What do we got Claire Foy? I think because it's
Speaker 1: it's her last she's outstanding its last seasons. As they're
Speaker 1: talking about miss Claire Foy for the supporting actress. Oscar
Speaker 1: First Man, the first reviews of is happening, and so
Speaker 1: now we have all the first reviews of the big
Speaker 1: Oscar movies. So First Man got reviews. Some people are raving,
Speaker 1: some people not Star is Born. The reviews have come
Speaker 1: out and they're very positively. Yeah, they're saying it's actually
Speaker 1: a sleigh and a half. Really, I gotta work on that,
Speaker 1: lady gun you were um. First of all, she's giving
Speaker 1: you so much material just in that car and that
Speaker 1: scene alone when he's like that is there was so
Speaker 1: much material in her Netflix special just yeah, um. And
Speaker 1: then what else? You know what movie I heard is good?
Speaker 1: There's a movie coming out with Rachel VISs Ema Stone
Speaker 1: and Olivia Coleman called The Favorite, which that looks really
Speaker 1: good with it. It's the same lobster guy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's like Olivia Coleman's in it. Olivia Coleman plays like
Speaker 1: a queen and emistone and I guess Rachel Vice is
Speaker 1: like just under her and then Emi Stone plays like
Speaker 1: the new servant that they hire or something like that,
Speaker 1: like some someone new to like this estate. And it's
Speaker 1: like a comedy, like like sort of comedy matters um
Speaker 1: and Rave reviews and they're saying that Emi Stone is
Speaker 1: phenomenal in it. She's good. She's good. It's really good.
Speaker 1: I think she's really telling very very and she seems
Speaker 1: like a good and she's a good person. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: seems like a good person, like from people who like
Speaker 1: whatever periphctly know her that everyone's looks like she's a
Speaker 1: solid human. Yeah, and don't they call her em Emily
Speaker 1: Emily um clorie. I think we should ask you the question.
Speaker 1: We ask all of our guests to ask this question,
Speaker 1: and I think you and we like screen this for
Speaker 1: you earlier. And let's see if I say the same
Speaker 1: and you were self conscio, but I believe a great choice. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you can change your answer for you Okay, uh, Chlorie,
Speaker 1: what is the culture that made you say culture is
Speaker 1: for me? Like defining pop culture that made you say wow?
Speaker 1: I might be forming into a person due to this,
Speaker 1: the miseducation of Lauren Hell and just celebrated its twenty anniversary,
Speaker 1: which is insane. Insane, that's okay, So then what are
Speaker 1: you okay? So then let's let's dive into this. So
Speaker 1: I'm from Berkeley, and um, like white people don't listen
Speaker 1: to white people. Yeah, And I was just like I
Speaker 1: as I've always been the person. They're like, you have
Speaker 1: more phases than the moon. But the miseducation, I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is me. And I was right. And I started
Speaker 1: wearing like Rastafarian Oh my god. So I was just
Speaker 1: like little miss appropriate just was appropriating everything I possibly could,
Speaker 1: like really felt it like smoked weed for the first time,
Speaker 1: came from this earnest place, not like like womanhood and
Speaker 1: hip hop. Yeah, and I had it was like the
Speaker 1: first time I really had a crush on somebody. Yeah, Andrew, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like yeah it was associated with like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna listen to this music and flirt with this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was it was it was that music that
Speaker 1: kicked in just as you were kind of becoming a person. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Black Street was like around that same time. Was it like,
Speaker 1: was it Fuji's leading into Yeah? And when I bought
Speaker 1: the Fuji's it was like all at that same time,
Speaker 1: especially the Fujisan that album. I mean, yeah, they're the best,
Speaker 1: but there's something that's still still to this day, like
Speaker 1: when um, oh my god, do have that thing comes on?
Speaker 1: You're like this is this is unique, You'll never hear
Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, although I really like hip hop right now,
Speaker 1: this new like lady hip hop. Do you know Tierra Whack?
Speaker 1: You gotta check her out? She just I know you
Speaker 1: like Jungle Pussy because you love jungle and I deeply
Speaker 1: love your friend Jungle Pussy. Yeah, there's some like hints
Speaker 1: of Lauren Hill, like a little bit someone Lauren Um,
Speaker 1: but you'll should check out Taro Wax. She's this like
Speaker 1: twenty five year old girl from Philly. She's wait, I
Speaker 1: was just listening. Did she do a thing with Kanye She?
Speaker 1: I don't know she did do anything. I think she's
Speaker 1: like just someone she like like people like people, people
Speaker 1: love her like like all like the hip hop like
Speaker 1: higher ups like oh see that's when you know, that's
Speaker 1: when you know. But like she so she basically put
Speaker 1: out this m visual album and all the all the
Speaker 1: tracks for a minute long and it's fifteen songs. So
Speaker 1: it's a fifteen minute visual album cool and you listen
Speaker 1: to it in fifteen minutes and it's all like wonderful,
Speaker 1: little like vignette of melodies and you're like, oh, these
Speaker 1: are really good. That's a way you're here. I was
Speaker 1: listening to Tiana Taylor is Great my co stars after Party.
Speaker 1: Wait what she's in the Afterparty Netflix movie? She's in it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was just walking past the brick
Speaker 1: like living, Oh my god, she's amazing, really really excited
Speaker 1: when they found out she was going to be in
Speaker 1: the movie. You listen to work this pussy right now,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pop your genity. I'm gonna pop my bussy.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pop your bussy to work that. She came
Speaker 1: up because I was listening to City Girls and you
Speaker 1: City Girls they have this song called Period. It's like
Speaker 1: the best I've ever heard. The women are coming back.
Speaker 1: Yes they are. I mean, and it's not this thing
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh there are no female They're here
Speaker 1: here and they're huge. I mean, it's like, literally, they
Speaker 1: should just have a concert where it's all it's just
Speaker 1: like Lizzo and Princess Nokia and Jungle Pussy. Okay, Princess Nokia.
Speaker 1: People are like turning on her. Everyone's turning on her
Speaker 1: because she did that alternative album? Is that sort of
Speaker 1: the way it goes, like what are You're not allowed
Speaker 1: to do anything different? I think they were, But I
Speaker 1: love her. I think she's I think she's a very talented.
Speaker 1: People are turning on Doja Cat now, yes, because she
Speaker 1: tweeted this thing out of nowhere where she was like
Speaker 1: what did she say? She was like, um, and I
Speaker 1: am I homophobic If I used the word faggot when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I just call people faking. Although, Azalia,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about ze? Because I feel like
Speaker 1: she's one of those people were Her talent sort of
Speaker 1: transcends the insanity and her whole thing with Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe. It's so fucking funny, so fucking funny.
Speaker 1: The fact that she called Grimes a perhapst beer pussy
Speaker 1: is genius, genius. If we if we all do, if
Speaker 1: we all knew a Zilia Banks, she would leave rooms
Speaker 1: and we would say that bitch is so crazy but
Speaker 1: so funny, Like Okay, Matt and I like pulled up
Speaker 1: the video where she called that fight attendant a faggot,
Speaker 1: And it's hilarious for somebody have to say something that
Speaker 1: flight attend it was a fag like I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: come for me too, and we're gonna. I just want
Speaker 1: to heat the way she says it, because it's no
Speaker 1: she goes. No, it's not that she goes, it's deeper.
Speaker 1: It's like she drops like this, the draw is fucking bag.
Speaker 1: She says it from her soul. But the thing is like,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the thing, fucking fat let's let's
Speaker 1: let's let's paint a picture in our heads of what
Speaker 1: this is. We hear about the way that some of
Speaker 1: these flight attendants treat people. We hear about fucking racism.
Speaker 1: We hear that she's gonna tell me Azalia Banks being
Speaker 1: who she is, I see to her plane. Maybe she
Speaker 1: was being a little extra. That doesn't mean you fucking
Speaker 1: not not let her off the plane. You're not letting
Speaker 1: her back. She shouldn't have said it. But also at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like what the hell, why
Speaker 1: are you abusing her? Just get let her get off
Speaker 1: the plane. Then we're not to do with it at all.
Speaker 1: This is all to say Treasure Island, this track that
Speaker 1: she came out with like a month ago. It's so good,
Speaker 1: so good. That's the thing. Her music, It is so good.
Speaker 1: Her music is so good. And what's you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Like you're going to be mad at of her speaking
Speaker 1: truth to power. Now I have to I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: have to read I think my favorite tweet of all time.
Speaker 1: I just I'm sorry, I'm sorry, my problematic favor for
Speaker 1: saying that. No. I also I used to see her
Speaker 1: in downtown l A A lot. Yeah, yeah, just like,
Speaker 1: and she'd be eating eggs at the Why I was
Speaker 1: at the hotel down to l A. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like weird. I lived, I lived down there, and
Speaker 1: I thought that I would have this life where I like,
Speaker 1: I get up and I go to work at the hotel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people do it here. You see it in New York
Speaker 1: all the time. That's where I like, because it's right
Speaker 1: by Adler. I thought I would live. Is where we
Speaker 1: watched Dred Race. Now that it's on Thursday's weekend, when
Speaker 1: it's not packed in those couches, its scourges, and it's
Speaker 1: cozy and it's productive and it's a great place for
Speaker 1: a little Micah. She'd always have these eggs and these
Speaker 1: crazy nails, and I'd like see her and she'd like
Speaker 1: look up, and I like, I love you just Her
Speaker 1: music is no joke. Can just read this my favorite tweet.
Speaker 1: I think I've read this to you. This is um,
Speaker 1: this was back in. This is right I r Ann
Speaker 1: Winter came out, so this is recent. She goes, and
Speaker 1: this is right after Nicki Minaje wore a mermaid tail
Speaker 1: in a music video. Then Azelia freaked out. It's like,
Speaker 1: people are, well, she's not so, I mean sure as
Speaker 1: she goes l O L. Female rap is a mess today.
Speaker 1: Yet I'm still the most original, talented and the most
Speaker 1: skinny all taps drinking, drinking my skinny watermelon teeny staring
Speaker 1: from the kitchen window as I watched the raccoons scrounged
Speaker 1: for art in my garbage pobblem, Like that's an artful
Speaker 1: TWI that's come on, that's amazing, It's amazing. She's amazing.
Speaker 1: Pretty is great. Yeah, Jungle Pussy is amazing. I think
Speaker 1: she has these great this whole thing about how to
Speaker 1: make like a skin potion. I like her because she's
Speaker 1: like healthy, yeah yeah, yeah, she's like a healthy She's
Speaker 1: a healthy rapper like she Butter and Lemon Grass. She'll
Speaker 1: give you lifestyle tips. Yeah, I took her lifetyle tips.
Speaker 1: Do wait, did you have you listened to the Kayli
Speaker 1: forties seven? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so good. Yeah yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: there's a new one in handbags. Listen to that. That's
Speaker 1: really good. Oh my god, all the time, all the time,
Speaker 1: She's amazing. That's my I listen to and I get
Speaker 1: on a plane. Yes, and I feel no fear. That's
Speaker 1: great plane. So hip hop is your genre absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it started with the Miss Educational. Yes, okay, let's
Speaker 1: talk about this because my mom was like, you can
Speaker 1: play this. I like this free cyclist all the time
Speaker 1: in the car. Yeah. It's an incredible album. X Factor
Speaker 1: do op um God still one of the most successful
Speaker 1: albums of all the time. And even that bonus track
Speaker 1: the uh You're just Too Good to be True whatever.
Speaker 1: It came out like when Cheryl Crow CDs were coming out,
Speaker 1: so it just felt like there was not that space filed.
Speaker 1: It was a little fair. Yeah, it was a little
Speaker 1: Sarah macacklin Cheryl Crow. Well, you had like little Fair happening,
Speaker 1: and then you had like pop Diva's happening, and then
Speaker 1: you had Lauren Hill because that was also that was
Speaker 1: also it was little fair. It was you were either
Speaker 1: a woman, you had a guitar, or you had a big,
Speaker 1: big voice where you riffed the house down right, or
Speaker 1: you were a pop princess. And then there was like
Speaker 1: this space and I think like just even Lauren Hill,
Speaker 1: like singing and also rapping, was like, oh wait, let's
Speaker 1: pivot and let's let's look at this too, and then
Speaker 1: like it's true, like there is this like world of
Speaker 1: hip hop that I feel was exposed. God, I mean
Speaker 1: speaking of one of the best singers ever to like,
Speaker 1: like Lauren is another like very mystifying figure where it's
Speaker 1: like you don't really know what to make of her
Speaker 1: because there's just seemed to be all of these prickly
Speaker 1: things like she came to Oakland. I remember, didn't like,
Speaker 1: didn't perform a concert because it was to me white people. Yeah, respect,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of classically always late. I've
Speaker 1: heard that she's not the most pleasant person, but um,
Speaker 1: when you have when you're that talent, it's like it's
Speaker 1: so hard. She did a cover not too long like
Speaker 1: a year ago that was on Facebook. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: like an events yeah, and event where she performed for
Speaker 1: the first time in a while, and I mean it's chills,
Speaker 1: Like her voice is insane. You put up with people's
Speaker 1: bullshit when you know you're going to get a certain
Speaker 1: you just do yeah. Right. But it's like there's no
Speaker 1: like mathematical way to like figure that. It's like read
Speaker 1: the Franklin saying, Hi, there can be no air conditioning. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you turn the air conditioning off because when the queen
Speaker 1: rolls with with Lauren Hill though, oh, I just want
Speaker 1: to I used to do this a joke when like
Speaker 1: the handful of times I would do stand up that
Speaker 1: I do it. Um when I talk about going to
Speaker 1: this Beyonce concert with Brittany remember High Britney Halloway Brown.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, um, oh yeah, remember when you went.
Speaker 1: But I'll be like, um, I'll be like I am,
Speaker 1: I'll be like yes, so Brittany came with me, and
Speaker 1: Brittany is like the Lauren Hill of being late to things,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm the Lauren Hill of hating white people.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a fun joke, but then it
Speaker 1: would like get such a mixed reacitially anyway, but Lauren
Speaker 1: is Yeah, so Lauren, I feel like, what what just
Speaker 1: came out recently? Some wanted some producer, someone on Miss
Speaker 1: Education or some close collaborator of hers like called her
Speaker 1: out in this essay and was like she's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, she doesn't have good relations to people. I
Speaker 1: think because she's not you know, she's a tough person
Speaker 1: to deal with. I don't know. I just feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of money tied up on that album too,
Speaker 1: is that thing totally? And like I feel like, if
Speaker 1: all's right in the world, like we get one more
Speaker 1: like piece of great work out of her. Not that
Speaker 1: I'm not that we demanding things, but like it's just
Speaker 1: I would want that. It is crazy because even even
Speaker 1: really it's nuts that really from her was like her
Speaker 1: work with the Fujis and then that album and then
Speaker 1: there's really hasn't been what I mean, it's like other
Speaker 1: people that put out like iconic pieces of work, like
Speaker 1: they followed up like you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: a lot of more set, there's Jagged Little Pill, and
Speaker 1: then it's almost like you don't even remember anything else.
Speaker 1: But there are other albums, yeah, Christmas albums Laura Hill
Speaker 1: should release a Christmas She had an acoustic album that
Speaker 1: came out and she did an MTV unplugged acoust and
Speaker 1: it's beauty, Like, it's just beaut that. I also live
Speaker 1: for her performance and fucking fist direct to ahead and
Speaker 1: she really Ralph was the mother. Yes, just so kind
Speaker 1: and like her fashion at the time, she's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Those music videos are like timeless, yes, even now, even
Speaker 1: when she did that little video where she did an
Speaker 1: acoustic cover of Doop, like she just wore this giant
Speaker 1: brimmed hat and looked incredible. Incredible. Yeah, I love you,
Speaker 1: not aged. I also heard that in concert she rarely
Speaker 1: does the same arrangement twice, like she's always like rearaging things,
Speaker 1: Like she's like it has to be different, like her
Speaker 1: instincts must be followed at all times, and like her
Speaker 1: band is good enough to like change because she has
Speaker 1: of course the best and the best work and probably
Speaker 1: if someone were not perfect, she could just look fill
Speaker 1: them a look and they be gone. That's okay. You
Speaker 1: know what This is the thing that is solidifying all
Speaker 1: this for me is that she is a musical genius. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like you can't and that is the thing that
Speaker 1: you weigh against all the other behavioral stuff. And I
Speaker 1: think the issue is that like a lot of people
Speaker 1: will have that behavior without the talent. Sure, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like yeah and they and people put up with even them. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is it is popular in comedy, yes, in the Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga Netflix saying where she's like getting massaged every other
Speaker 1: take and like weeping with her soul and like I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you in that much pain? Honestly, I guess I
Speaker 1: choose to believe that she actually is, because like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. What does that mean? She's like a ranting,
Speaker 1: raving c just I mean just to week all day
Speaker 1: and just have somebody like like like just working here
Speaker 1: and there's like four like sometimes I'm sure she's like
Speaker 1: three massuses. She's just like slowly weeping. I mean that
Speaker 1: was so iconic for you know, I did and then
Speaker 1: and then I feel like the time went too far.
Speaker 1: People just bring it back. I mean that's I have
Speaker 1: like a lot of questions that are like not relevant,
Speaker 1: but I kind of want to just write. But I
Speaker 1: think that's good enough. Sometimes it doesn't really matter. People
Speaker 1: do like to see like a good impression, even if
Speaker 1: it comes from Serri wheel and Nette thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a twenty year old movie, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a Bill Paxton that I love. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but I I've been talked out of putting it in
Speaker 1: my like submissions and reels and stuff like so good.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, like I see it sucking these
Speaker 1: straight guys doing these these fucking throwback impressions and no
Speaker 1: one cares. They do it all the time. Then I
Speaker 1: wear is their brain? I don't know, that's all I
Speaker 1: see it all. I didn't stand up. Yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: are you? You're talking about caddy shacks? Still, I know
Speaker 1: that's interesting to me because it's like man like if
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, like a different do
Speaker 1: it liked to pull up Michiko Kakutani impression. Who cares
Speaker 1: what the references are? I mean, look as long as
Speaker 1: it's good, it's good, I think, rather than timely. I've
Speaker 1: done some bad timely stuff. There you go. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you feel like you have to, you have to rather
Speaker 1: than do something of the past, right right, right right,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm in whip out all my starwards. You
Speaker 1: have no idea how good this Bill packs just away
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, but it's a very good.
Speaker 1: But it was based on the Twister attraction at Universal Studios,
Speaker 1: So he's in the in the Twister Attractions pre show
Speaker 1: or deally departed that ride no longer. He just standing
Speaker 1: there in the craziest stance, just talking about how a
Speaker 1: twister is the worst thing you can go through and laugh.
Speaker 1: It's got the force of a he's just like truly
Speaker 1: and the way his body is position the funniest Wooden
Speaker 1: performance ever. Talking about it on podcast The Ride Coming
Speaker 1: to Forever Dog Network Position. It's a really good podcast.
Speaker 1: I'll give it a plug. It's a really good podcast
Speaker 1: where every single the time they have a different guest
Speaker 1: on talking about a different theme park attraction and I'm
Speaker 1: a theme park bitch. You are? Do you with the Island?
Speaker 1: Then deeply with Oland, I'm jealous of you because you're
Speaker 1: going there right after that, that's great. I felt deeply
Speaker 1: with it. I've done the cycle in a couple of times. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm just I think it might go tonight. Do it.
Speaker 1: You gotta do one ride, Just do the Cyclone fantasy,
Speaker 1: and that's one reason to do when they go upside down.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Cyclone doesn't go upside. So I like
Speaker 1: the old like you could die. One ye, you might
Speaker 1: die on it. You might die, you might, But the
Speaker 1: thing is that is to die an iconic coast. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's an iconic coast. Be amazing, amazing day. I hope
Speaker 1: that one day I'm on it and it just flies
Speaker 1: off the trucks and I go, you love me like
Speaker 1: and I deeply die, go right into the ocean and
Speaker 1: I'm like, and you dine a ball of fire and
Speaker 1: I die like Beyonce Chloe. I am just this sounds
Speaker 1: so obnoxious. No, no, no, the day that someone does
Speaker 1: the Chloe Fineman impression, what happens then that that is
Speaker 1: that's snakeating, It's on top. I in Groundlings, I'd always
Speaker 1: do these things where they'd like teach characters or impressions
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, let's do someone in the class,
Speaker 1: and then would always be like, drove, like do Chloe,
Speaker 1: And it's always somebody. Yeah. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: impression would be. I think an impression of me would
Speaker 1: be so insulting. It would be someone's screen would be
Speaker 1: what you literally just like see what I mean? Can
Speaker 1: I do? No? I was going to do an impression,
Speaker 1: but I can ask a stupid question, would it makes
Speaker 1: sense if you were to ever do an impression of
Speaker 1: yourself stupid? I don't know, it doesn't work. I mean
Speaker 1: I know that like uh forever, I like in school,
Speaker 1: I was they were always like stop smiling while you
Speaker 1: talk Northern California, like because we kind of like talk
Speaker 1: like this, and I don't know, I talk out of
Speaker 1: the side of my mouth a lot like that was
Speaker 1: just how I grew up talking. Um would probably be
Speaker 1: like she's being inappropriate in her dad's mad. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think I could do an impression just because
Speaker 1: I'm around you, Tom, around you too much ever doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the closeness we don't have the critical
Speaker 1: I don't have anyone call me out. I would appreciate it,
Speaker 1: or like I always make fun of my friends and
Speaker 1: doing impression I've ever had because Chloe like you, Like
Speaker 1: I've seen you answer questions like yes or no questions
Speaker 1: with like sounds and like physicality, like you're like like like,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying like that, that's not me doing a impression,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that's you, like going to that place
Speaker 1: default in your mind is like so inspired and like, oh,
Speaker 1: like that's like that's where it all comes from. It's
Speaker 1: like thinking in those terms of like yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: very like it's just like Chloe being like and it
Speaker 1: was very animated because I say I'm animated. It was
Speaker 1: weird too, because like Melissa Vy did it Jenny Slate
Speaker 1: impression on Instagram. Jenny didn't like it. Maybe she will
Speaker 1: smash like button, but I was just like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: so interesting to like do someone like I don't know, Jenny.
Speaker 1: Iconic comic is like interesting, that interesting, Yeah, most of doesn't.
Speaker 1: Whitney come in, she's really good, and your Silverman she
Speaker 1: does Comedian and those are all really easy. I mean
Speaker 1: Sarah silver And I feel like that's like she has
Speaker 1: a state of manner of being which is like you
Speaker 1: like it's a car, it's like and he does so
Speaker 1: many like iconic things. But I don't do Amy Schumer.
Speaker 1: But because I saw someone do it online, I think
Speaker 1: she's friends with you guys. She's in New York. She
Speaker 1: did an Amy Schumer that was like flawless, really, and
Speaker 1: when someone does that, I don't touch it, Like Chelsea
Speaker 1: David since Lendon done him. That's I mean, that's very
Speaker 1: cool that like you have such respect for that to
Speaker 1: you want to go to go near it. That's why
Speaker 1: that's why Paxton I crushed the piston. It is on
Speaker 1: my old character, which is on Yeah. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: that'll change, but for now, it's definitely like, oh I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. That is like the platonic ideal for the
Speaker 1: craft of just having that respect for other people. Sacred,
Speaker 1: sacred beach psych Grid. I think it's time. I think
Speaker 1: it's time. I don't think yes, did I not remember?
Speaker 1: We never put it all together, but now we're here,
Speaker 1: we'll go first time or if you cannot think of
Speaker 1: something we can drop into, actually have a good one,
Speaker 1: can you do? So this is Matt Rodgers. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, Honey, his time starts now. I don't think so, Honey. Starbucks,
Speaker 1: when you say pumpkin spices back, have the ingredients ready
Speaker 1: to make pumpkin spice, Because let me tell you something,
Speaker 1: when you say pumpkin spices back, guess who's going to
Speaker 1: be the first person in line, honey, me the bitch.
Speaker 1: And when I step up and order a pumpkin spice
Speaker 1: and event a frappuccino form and then I have to
Speaker 1: wait twenty minutes. Honey, I've not a happy customer. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, Honey. When I have a fucking full
Speaker 1: conversation with the employee, and we will say how excited
Speaker 1: you are about pumpkin spice, and how you know we're not. Basically,
Speaker 1: we're just living our life because it's good. And then
Speaker 1: the same young woman is having a hard time finding
Speaker 1: the ingredients. It's like, Honey, you posted it up on
Speaker 1: the chalkboard. You posted it up on the commercials let's
Speaker 1: get ready with the pumpkin spice. You had the audacity
Speaker 1: to advertise everyone pumpkins spice and back, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1: I'm here, so give me a pumpkin spice. I'm waiting,
Speaker 1: hont and you know that, gizzy. Honey, it's New York.
Speaker 1: I need my pumpkin spice right now, honey. And that's
Speaker 1: one minute. I'm just saying, like, if you're going to
Speaker 1: get me all up in timkin, do you like pumpkin spice?
Speaker 1: I don't you know what. I'm back on the cycle
Speaker 1: of liking it again. But I think I I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I should and I'd be a more whimsical person. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think I should have gotten a venty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's so much, you know, it was so much,
Speaker 1: and then you overdo it because it becomes like in everything.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make myself feel better after a RESTful situation,
Speaker 1: and so then I went and got my pumpkin spice
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh yes, And honestly, you know,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's actually a rule of culture. You
Speaker 1: never actually want a large. Say it with me, You
Speaker 1: never actually want large. You always want a medium, bitch
Speaker 1: or a grand. If you will, you just you will
Speaker 1: never need that much volume or something. You swear to God.
Speaker 1: We were in Penn Station the other day, me and
Speaker 1: where to God you were? Yeah? Where was that? Was
Speaker 1: I with you? Oh? I think I was with my sister? Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Oh? I was with my sister
Speaker 1: and I went to go get um smoothie and I
Speaker 1: was like, I love a large without looking at the sizes,
Speaker 1: and they were like, are you sure you want a large?
Speaker 1: And then I looked over and I swear to God,
Speaker 1: the large was this big? They downa crazy. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, no, I want a small, which is
Speaker 1: like a fucking bucket. They down sold that. That's crazy
Speaker 1: because because even they were human beings and could tell
Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to finish this. But you guys,
Speaker 1: you never want a large. You never want a large.
Speaker 1: Mean if they tell you it's fifty cents more, well,
Speaker 1: and then they get you in the movie theaters to
Speaker 1: they do, do you want to make that a large?
Speaker 1: For Adlarmore? And you always go, I mean, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's a waste. I always say, no, are you a
Speaker 1: popcorn kind of kind of? I'm not like dieting. We
Speaker 1: always say a rule of culture, popcorn doesn't count. Popcorn
Speaker 1: is air, okay? And I don't think so, Honey, he
Speaker 1: thinks he has one. I think so, And as time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so. Many anyone who has
Speaker 1: not seen the Teddy Perkins episode of Atlanta I just
Speaker 1: saw last night, and I granted I am four and
Speaker 1: a half months late. It is one of the best
Speaker 1: episodes of a television I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: It is so bizarre, it's so viscerally upsetting and funny
Speaker 1: and tragic, and I don't know, this is not the
Speaker 1: most interesting I don't think so many. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: everyone has to watch this and now, even if you
Speaker 1: are not familiar with the show, although context does help.
Speaker 1: Um Lekeith Stanfield turns out an amazing performance. What a
Speaker 1: beautiful actor, beautiful person. Hunky hunky hunky. Look love l Keith,
Speaker 1: but he he's like the cookie crazy guy and in
Speaker 1: the whole show out but like to see him play
Speaker 1: straight man against Donald Glover in White Face is truly stunning.
Speaker 1: I will never forget this episode of television. I have
Speaker 1: to go back and watch it. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: scene with an ostrich Et. I won't spoil it, but
Speaker 1: it is the most viscerally upsetting thing I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life, and I wanted to throw up. Alex,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. I've seen this. It's
Speaker 1: you have to watch it. It's so good. Ever, get
Speaker 1: thee to a Funnery and watch the Teddy Perkins episode.
Speaker 1: That's lesson, I don't think so, honey, and more just
Speaker 1: a statement of appreciating and that's okay, and that's okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's okay, and that's okay. It's whatever
Speaker 1: you want to make it. I haven't seen that episode.
Speaker 1: So that was and I don't think so honey. On me,
Speaker 1: you need you have you watched any of Atlanta? It's
Speaker 1: on my list. You would stand for Zayz Beats. Watch
Speaker 1: She's fabulous. Do you watch Atlanta? I have a crush
Speaker 1: on yeh should watch it. He's so good. He he
Speaker 1: is in white face. He plays this eccentric billionaire type
Speaker 1: of person. Oh my god, she's incredible. It's it's truly
Speaker 1: insane this episode. Anyway, So now we have someone to
Speaker 1: do and I don't think so, honey, that has previously
Speaker 1: subverted the form by doing her. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: On Greta Girlwick and another person I could do, but
Speaker 1: I maybe they want but we're going to find out
Speaker 1: right now. This is Chloe Fine, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now. Okay, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: White man who says he cannot get through Ninette four
Speaker 1: guys to be like, I tried to watch it, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I only lasted thirty minutes. The whole
Speaker 1: point of the Nette is the thirty minutes that come
Speaker 1: after your that cannot stand. Her first half is hilarious
Speaker 1: and all sorts of jokes and the fact you can't
Speaker 1: even get past that because everything is to be hetered
Speaker 1: to you and your dick humor the fact that you
Speaker 1: don't get it, or you find her boring, or it's like,
Speaker 1: not get out of your fucking you're going to learn,
Speaker 1: open your eyes and your ears. I cannot stand. I
Speaker 1: cannot stand because you don't find her attractive, or sometimes
Speaker 1: it's really why you don't like today jokes. You're never
Speaker 1: gonna you're never gonna expand you're never going to be
Speaker 1: woke and you can't man explain the net to me,
Speaker 1: which is ultimately what you probably want to be able
Speaker 1: to do, because it's funny be closed. I just thought
Speaker 1: it boring, Like I don't know, I didn't really get it.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've actually talked about this a bunch.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, like you guys, yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: not it is for you. It's just not for you
Speaker 1: to explain. Yeah, like to I came, yeah, three guys
Speaker 1: since being in New York, We're like, yeah, then I
Speaker 1: tried to watch it, God, like why bring that? It's
Speaker 1: something that impression and also like it really gets good
Speaker 1: if you keep watching. But she's really a fine wine
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, talk, you mentioned something that I think
Speaker 1: is very do which is the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: because they can't and don't fuck her, or like they
Speaker 1: have no desire to do that because she's not for them,
Speaker 1: or like she's not presenting herself sexually for them, like
Speaker 1: there is a block there. Yeah, it's such a thing
Speaker 1: and the thing about and there's even some backlash I
Speaker 1: think from even like weird places, like I think I've
Speaker 1: heard queer people be like, I don't know, or just
Speaker 1: people be like is it comedy? Though it's like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna you're not gonna be the one
Speaker 1: to like define the parameters of what this is and
Speaker 1: if this is hurting the form, you're kidding me, you're
Speaker 1: going to be the person who died and made you king.
Speaker 1: Like I do understand the backlash behind like the like sexicide,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand the backlash, but behind people saying, um,
Speaker 1: well it's not comedy, but it absolutely the first thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: which I kept rewatching for the stupid impression is it hilarious?
Speaker 1: Joke after jog after joke, But then she brings it
Speaker 1: all back together towards the end, or it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like a masterfully done piece. But even if
Speaker 1: it were, even if it weren't funny in the way
Speaker 1: that like people needed to be, you cannot be the
Speaker 1: gatekeeper of someone going on a stage and performing art
Speaker 1: like that's just that's what this is, you guys, you
Speaker 1: know that's what we all do. You go up there,
Speaker 1: you get a reaction the way that you can, and
Speaker 1: and if you don't understand that reaction or aren't giving
Speaker 1: that reaction the way other people are, or couldn't get
Speaker 1: that reaction in that same way, that doesn't mean it's
Speaker 1: bad or doesn't deserve a place. It just means it's
Speaker 1: different and there should be more different kinds of art.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's killing people is that they don't
Speaker 1: see it in the narrow way that they've had to
Speaker 1: come up or they've told they were told is the
Speaker 1: way you succeed. So it's like, how could this person
Speaker 1: be succeeded. I also am like really inspired by her
Speaker 1: thing to not self have to self deprecate. Absolutely. I
Speaker 1: never even thought about I never thought about it until
Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. Did you into a million times
Speaker 1: at JFL I saw her order something and I was scared.
Speaker 1: I was genuinely like stars check weren't elevated with her
Speaker 1: and I would have lost. I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe how I am not like leaping. Yeah, Tiffany Hattries
Speaker 1: came out of an elevator in a ballgown. Yeah, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I would have sparkly red ball account. It was crazy
Speaker 1: to all be space with people like that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so so crazy. But just the fact that she was
Speaker 1: like treated poorly there, I just she was so so
Speaker 1: I did not hear like stand ups like. She got
Speaker 1: heckled at the show that leaves a Trader her own.
Speaker 1: She was heckled at her gallup and then do some
Speaker 1: some random what's that? Who who? And a fucking leaves
Speaker 1: a trigger hosted this other show that she was on,
Speaker 1: and then the comic went up afterward was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Hannah Gaspy hasn't said a funny thing in her life
Speaker 1: like you, I can't, and he's proving her whole FI
Speaker 1: needs to end coming. I've been at three stand up
Speaker 1: shows this week here and everyone is heckling. You really
Speaker 1: never seen anything. I'm not I'm not in my I'm
Speaker 1: not in the bubble that I feel safe in. But
Speaker 1: these like straighty shows, heck heckle city. They were heckling um,
Speaker 1: do you know? Yeah? I love him he was they
Speaker 1: were heckling him. Oh my god. This guy would heckle
Speaker 1: and then this girl would turn around in high five him.
Speaker 1: We'll have fun going back to whatever. I know. And
Speaker 1: I really was like so tempted, just like, why don't
Speaker 1: you get on stage? Yeah? Yeah, your day. Travis like
Speaker 1: truly the most unimpeachable comedian out there, like so likable
Speaker 1: and so great and so great, let's say it hot.
Speaker 1: He knows I think he's hot because he's posted there's
Speaker 1: traps where he's sure left. One time I went under.
Speaker 1: I went up after him a set, and my whole
Speaker 1: first minute of my set was how hot? It was
Speaker 1: so hot? And so yeah. I lingered after the show
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, yeah, are you I thought that
Speaker 1: was really good. Yeah, just here for a little while,
Speaker 1: so obviously for a couple of days. Yeah, how New York?
Speaker 1: Where do you live? Yeah? Oh cool. He also has
Speaker 1: a tattoo um that I shouldn't well whatever, he has
Speaker 1: a tattoo that I he said was a wolf but
Speaker 1: looks like a new That's a great conversation. Start. I
Speaker 1: love about you know what talk about at the wedding?
Speaker 1: Bringing up at the wedding? Wow, what a fun episode.
Speaker 1: We love, we love So is there anything coming up
Speaker 1: for you? People can see you? You have like shows
Speaker 1: coming up in the la la um. No it's on
Speaker 1: the net. Or you're crazy for not You're crazy for
Speaker 1: not following. Chloe's crazy. Truly about that bitch? About that
Speaker 1: bitch someone? We love you so much. I love you, guys,
Speaker 1: I really didn't listen. This is a love fest and
Speaker 1: that's what we love. That's what we love, and actually
Speaker 1: leads into the song that it's gonna sing. We're gonna
Speaker 1: sing and we're gonna you know a song when did
Speaker 1: you love You? And that's um okay, we need to
Speaker 1: start singing. We can't do the garthen Cat thing I
Speaker 1: think we need to do. Can I tell you what?
Speaker 1: I've been listening to a lot because our last episode
Speaker 1: was exclusively about her. Wait, and I really don't like
Speaker 1: every Levine, but I'm gonna have to sing this song
Speaker 1: we go Did you think that I was gonna get
Speaker 1: up to you? And episode I was gonna do and try.
Speaker 1: I don't try to tell me what to do. Don't
Speaker 1: try to tell me what to say. You're better off
Speaker 1: that way, trip that to put me on, mess me up.
Speaker 1: I've done no wrong. I don't know the rest. I
Speaker 1: don't know the rest. And then the chorus again, we
Speaker 1: love Ovril. Well that's the song we're closing out on
Speaker 1: this episode. We love you, we love Chloe. Uh Like, Subscribe, listen, review,
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