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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Amar Junior Jim Salisbury.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>Solecki, the Phillies Fellows.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh just had an eight and two homestand but that

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<v Speaker 2>is not why I'm excited. I'm excited, very excited because

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<v Speaker 2>we have a pretty sweet logo.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're watching on you, if you're watching on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>you just saw a kind of float across the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be everywhere now. I mean, you guys gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be pumped. This is pretty cool. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we went from like a Banana Republic podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to like a legitimate podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have a really really awesome logo.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you guys, Todd, you got some nice blue hair.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, look good.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I think it's so cool. So I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta tell you a story. We got to give a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to Pat Kritz. He works at Thought Thought

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<v Speaker 2>Tub and he reached out after the first or second episode,

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<v Speaker 2>And to be honest, like, we threw this thing kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gether together at the last minute, and my wife Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm in a panic. I'm like, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to get this thing up on Apple, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a logo, and she's like, well, how are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So my wife, with a one year old hanging on

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<v Speaker 2>her bangs out this really simple, basic logo just to

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<v Speaker 2>get us up on all these podcasts. Then Pat reaches

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<v Speaker 2>out and he says, I'm a huge Phillies fan. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only am I a huge Phillies fan, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of Phillies reporters and broadcasters. I love Ruben,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Jim, I love you. I went to Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>I've dabbled in some graphic design. I've done some things.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be interested in me designing a logo for you?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like sure. I check out his website and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this dude is legit. If anybody's been down

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<v Speaker 2>the Pen Up Butter Aisle at any supermarket and they've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen Justin's Peanut butter Almond butter peanut butter cups,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the dude that designed it. And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to design you a logo, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just great. I think it's really cool. I

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<v Speaker 2>love us in the bullpen car. It's got a retro field.

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<v Speaker 2>We're kind of retro. I think we're fun. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>some fun vibes to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I dig it. I think if it's man, that's this

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<v Speaker 3>is really really cool. I mean, I love the color scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the car, man, I mean, the bullpen car

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<v Speaker 3>is kidding me, it's so it's so choice. I love it, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love the exhaust coming out the bat for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you would.

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<v Speaker 2>We took the governor off the bullpen cart and now

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<v Speaker 2>we're moting her along.

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<v Speaker 1>So but anyway, I wanted to give a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Pat.

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<v Speaker 2>If you like the logo, let us know if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you like it enough, and maybe we'll make some

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<v Speaker 2>T shirts at some point. That would be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fun too, to be walking around some Philly Show T

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<v Speaker 2>shirts with.

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<v Speaker 3>The sweet there's some sweet swag ideas too, man, Yeah, yeah, sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Some sweet swag potentially down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you, Pat again thought tub check them out

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<v Speaker 2>at thought tub dot com. Guys, let's jump into this

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<v Speaker 2>just completed homestand the Phillies Go eight and two. I

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<v Speaker 2>look this up Best Phillies homestand of ten or more

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<v Speaker 2>games since June of twenty eleven. They went nine and

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<v Speaker 2>two in a homestand pretty impressive. They're fourteen and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't get to be six games over five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>last season until June twenty ninth, two years ago. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to six over until July eighth. And here

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<v Speaker 2>are the other six games over five hundred. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you guys look back at this homestand Jim, let's

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<v Speaker 2>start with you, what what kind of stands out to you?

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<v Speaker 4>What kind you know, real A bunch of stuff stands

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<v Speaker 4>out you mess in twenty eleven homestand and I guess

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<v Speaker 4>the common denominator is starting pitching. Obviously twenty eleven, the

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<v Speaker 4>rotation that's very good, starting pitching on that team, and

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<v Speaker 4>uh this you know they what do they put up

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<v Speaker 4>a one to five e RA in this series in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Home Yeah, are in the home stand, yes sir? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the starters, starters, the start and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I mean carried uh two times, they carried

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<v Speaker 4>no hitters.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of timely hitting. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>sort of Trey Turner really come alive. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that really stood out. Kyle Schwarber. You know, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I know people are gonna say, well, it was the

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox and the Rockies, and the White Sox is

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<v Speaker 4>just brutal and the Rockies are very bad. But you

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<v Speaker 4>there'll be tougher tests. There will be tougher tests, but

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<v Speaker 4>you can only pass the one on your desk that

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<v Speaker 4>that day or it presented to you that day. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think they passed it. Eight and two. They passed

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<v Speaker 4>it obviously in flying collars. So you know, to be

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<v Speaker 4>what five what are they five over five hundred now.

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<v Speaker 2>Six six or fourteen eight?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you know, goodbye slow start talk right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, no more slow start start talk. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when you look at the uh, you start

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<v Speaker 3>looking at you know, what kind of schedule you have

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<v Speaker 3>before the season starts. You look at some of these

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<v Speaker 3>teams and you think to yourself, well, Colorado doesn't look

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<v Speaker 3>like a real strong team. You got the White Sox

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<v Speaker 3>coming in and they're rebuilding, so we got a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to make some Hey. But the reality of it is,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you really have to play good baseball to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. I mean it's still they're still major league teams.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not. It's not chock full of talenty. They're one

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<v Speaker 3>of these teams. But to go back to back sweeps.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's almost impossible to do. You just don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that often. And and I you know, I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>and you guys know this, but I'm always about the

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitching. It was just dominant. I mean they really

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<v Speaker 3>they pounded the strike zone. They didn't off people. They

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they pitched. It wasn't like they were dominating

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, one hundred mile an hour fastballs and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, ninety seven mile an hour cutters or sliders.

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<v Speaker 3>They were pitching. Everybody in the rotation was pitching. Nola, Wheeler, Sanchez,

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<v Speaker 3>Suarez was outstanding, I mean Turnbull, I mean all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And they pitched really, really well, and it's a it's

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<v Speaker 3>a really good sign for the team. You don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how healthy they're going to be. You don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>factor they're going to continue to be. They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>face tougher teams here here in Cincinnati coming up, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they got to go to San Diego in LA.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a tough road trip. But they

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<v Speaker 3>did make some great hay and I think they had

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<v Speaker 3>contributions offensively from everybody. I mean, Alec Boehm had huge contributions.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Harper had some base hits and some walks. Swarburg

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<v Speaker 3>got on base, he had a couple of homers. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's just a lot of you talked about Turner. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just red hot. But it's uh, it's it bodes very

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<v Speaker 3>very well for this ball club because they got a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to you know, they had a chance to make

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<v Speaker 3>some hay and they did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Another little thing that another little thing that jumped out

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<v Speaker 4>of me real quick was their work in the first inning.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know they're first at bat. You know, they fall

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<v Speaker 4>down today and by two runs early Noliga is of

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<v Speaker 4>the two and they come right back with three. It

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<v Speaker 4>seems like they jumped out to so many early leads

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<v Speaker 4>or retook the momentum immediately. You know, Schwarber with the

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<v Speaker 4>leadoff home run the other night. They're you know, their

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<v Speaker 4>numbers in the first inning as a team, schwarbro Is

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<v Speaker 4>are incredible in the first inning. But you know, as

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<v Speaker 4>a team, you know, they're they're in the top three

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<v Speaker 4>or four in like every major offensive car category in

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<v Speaker 4>the first inning, and they're just getting to these early

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<v Speaker 4>starts and kind of riding that. Have you noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I've definitely noticed that. And I think today.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great example of it. You know, to

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<v Speaker 2>see them Noah gives up that that two run home

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<v Speaker 2>run and to see the Phillies come back and score three. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they got a little bit of a gift there on

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<v Speaker 2>that double steal. That kind of but but those are

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<v Speaker 2>the those are the things that kind of go your way.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess when you're when you're playing well. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a team that is you knew was going

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<v Speaker 2>to score runs, and they show that they are going

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<v Speaker 2>to score runs. And now, like like Rubin said, they

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<v Speaker 2>just have to kind of keep it going through the

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<v Speaker 2>on this next upcoming road trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, you talked about the slug. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>how come they're not slugging? You know, it was the

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<v Speaker 3>first part they really did not get enough. I honestly

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<v Speaker 3>believe this, and we've talked about it as plenty and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they got enough reps. And now they've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten enough reps and they're starting to screwing the bats

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<v Speaker 3>and the slug is coming. I mean, these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>just too good. They're there. Their talent is just too great.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, and it's nice to see them, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're a Philly fan. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 3>see him doing some serious dam The other thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I will talk about a little bit is their defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Their infield defense has gotten better. Alec Bohma is playing

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<v Speaker 3>a very good third base. He did have like one

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<v Speaker 3>air one or two airs, but he's played very very

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<v Speaker 3>well defensively. He's gotten better and better. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of questions about whether the guy could even play third

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<v Speaker 3>base on an everyday basis on a championship Calver club,

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<v Speaker 3>but he can do it, and he's gotten better and better.

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<v Speaker 3>His confidence is rising, and he's becoming at least an

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<v Speaker 3>adequate or average third basement at this point, Trey Turner

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<v Speaker 3>has improved a lot. I know, he struggled quite a

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<v Speaker 3>bit last year, and he's starting to secure the baseball better.

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<v Speaker 3>And stat's always been good. And you know what Harper's learning.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he made a lot of diving plays. He

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<v Speaker 3>picked a couple of balls today in the game or

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<v Speaker 3>in the game on Sunday, And I mean he's starting

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<v Speaker 3>to learn the position pretty well at first base. And

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<v Speaker 3>the then obviously you got Johann you know, you got

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<v Speaker 3>Johann Rojas doing doing, you know, amazing things in center field.

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<v Speaker 3>It up really nicely defensively, and uh, and that's been

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<v Speaker 3>an impressive part of the sort of the transition and

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<v Speaker 3>what they've done. Dave Dombrowski and Sample and whoever else

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<v Speaker 3>is in charge of sort of remapping that because two

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<v Speaker 3>or three years ago we're like, this defense can't get

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<v Speaker 3>it done, and they're playing pretty darn well right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you're seeing, you know, the pitchers that

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about, the starting pitcher of the one five

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<v Speaker 2>to one era, and I think just over all the season,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they have the second best ear in baseball

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<v Speaker 2>Philly starters, behind only the Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of that has to do with the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like Zach Wheeler last season, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he could have been in a stronger position to win

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<v Speaker 2>the sag Or if he got a little bit of better.

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<v Speaker 1>Defense the first two or three months of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Zach Wheeler, I was wondering when it got

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<v Speaker 2>to the seventh eighth inning last night. We were sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there going like, how what what is Rob Thompson thinking

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Because I'm sure he was nervous, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he said he was gonna let me go to one twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, I wonder if you would is gonna let him.

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<v Speaker 3>Finish that game if it got to that point in.

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<v Speaker 4>The night before as well, or was it Friday night Turnbull?

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<v Speaker 4>These guys carrying these deep no hitters, and it's early,

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<v Speaker 4>it's chili. You're monitoring pitch counts, especially on a guy

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<v Speaker 4>like Turnbull who's coming back, you know, he's a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years removed from the surgery, Especially on a guy

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<v Speaker 4>like Wheeler, who you know, it's chili right, It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>cold right now. Uh, they're pitching kind of chili weather. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you want Wheeler to pitch in chili weather again in

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<v Speaker 4>six months, you know you you want them to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you can nip and tuck and save a bullet

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<v Speaker 4>or two. That's why today Sunday I had no problem

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<v Speaker 4>with Rob getting Nola, you know, with a sizeable lead,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a complete game. And it's great and it's nice,

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<v Speaker 4>and we love them. We kind of at times long

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<v Speaker 4>for the past when they were you know, they occurred

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<v Speaker 4>with more regularity. But there's nothing wrong with saving a

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<v Speaker 4>few bullets for the for the for the holy month October.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, so, so Rob was saying that before

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and after the game is like, I I'm trying,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dying to get some of these relievers some work

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<v Speaker 2>because they haven't pitched in a few days. So after

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<v Speaker 2>the game I talked to Jeff Hoffman just for a

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<v Speaker 2>few seconds, I said, out of curiosity, are you guys

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in the in the bullpen after being worked so

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<v Speaker 2>hard the first twelve games of the season going, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I could really you know, they're almost pitching too good

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<v Speaker 2>right now because now we're not pitching. And he said, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of joking about it, like, man, could

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<v Speaker 2>we get some innings here please? And then Jeff and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess some of the other veterans told Ryan Kirkan like,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy this while it lasts, cause you don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it will happen again this season, because at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're gonna be going, oh my gosh, could

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<v Speaker 2>we please just get like a day or two in

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<v Speaker 2>a row where we're not working our butts off. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're enjoying it right now. They they want to stay sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but they enjoyed this little ten day break.

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<v Speaker 3>They got no doubt. And in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 3>you start talking about some of the bullpens and they're

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<v Speaker 3>eating up almost forty or fifty percent of the innings.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you're doing that, you're putting so much heat

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<v Speaker 3>on those guys, and that's why it's tougher to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to back early, you know, with guys. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know why are you're not going back to back well,

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<v Speaker 3>because you haven't gotten your starters past the fifth inning.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's the beauty of the domino effect of

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<v Speaker 3>what this means to these guys long term. If they

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<v Speaker 3>can put a couple of these in a row, or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, two out of the three next starts for

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<v Speaker 3>each one of these guys can get into the sixth

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<v Speaker 3>and seventh inning consistently, Boy oh boy, does that say

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<v Speaker 3>these guys later on?

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<v Speaker 4>They've done a very very good job keeping their starters

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<v Speaker 4>healthy over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Paul Bukaid is a guy that came over from

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<v Speaker 3>the Boston Red Sox. I mean, you know, it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>what you know, we're one of the very first thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Paul was over there when I was a coach,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the very first things that I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to do with my outfielders was to do long toss

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like the first time he had heard

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<v Speaker 3>that from a coach in like the longest time with

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<v Speaker 3>my out with the outfielders, and he was like, thank god, Ruben,

0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.960
<v Speaker 3>thank god, I finally got somebody who wants to throw

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<v Speaker 3>long toss. And it's like, you know, Paul's got sort

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<v Speaker 3>of that old school mentality that you know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta take care of your arm by working your

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<v Speaker 3>arm and building it and and I think that that's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of you know, his mentality too.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see, guys see the smile and Nick Cassianis's

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<v Speaker 2>face on Saturday when he tripled, It was like the

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<v Speaker 2>entire weight of the world was lifted off his shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he went hitless in the series finale on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, maybe that gets them going a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Three hits on Saturday night. Have you guys seen better

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<v Speaker 2>at bats for him? Is there any reason to be

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic he's going to since Sinnati this week he's had

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<v Speaker 2>he had a great couple of years in Cincinnati. He's

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable there. Yes, I mean, maybe maybe this is the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like he's definitely getting closer. You know, the

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<v Speaker 4>track record has been too good to not think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to come. And you know, Cincinnati, like you mentioned, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>give him a positive vibe, good ballpark to hit him.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like it's really close for him. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a guy a couple of good games and confidence

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<v Speaker 4>in building, and I think he can ride that.

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<v Speaker 3>So so I did a little bit of a breakdown

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<v Speaker 3>on NBC Sports during the during the pregame on the

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<v Speaker 3>game on Saturday, excuse me on Sunday today, And what

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty cool about it was that, you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that I saw with him was he

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<v Speaker 3>was his lower half was really turned at his setup

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<v Speaker 3>so that he was almost had his you know, his

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<v Speaker 3>left hip was almost pointing towards the umpire. He was

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<v Speaker 3>that far turned. And I felt like, just like in

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<v Speaker 3>any other just again, any other hitter or pitcher, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going if you're going too far east west

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<v Speaker 3>like rotationally, you're not staying behind the ball, especially as

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<v Speaker 3>a hitter, not staying behind the ball, and you're not

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<v Speaker 3>working through the middle of the field. And that's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that he does extremely well is drive

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<v Speaker 3>the ball the opposite way. He's one of the better

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<v Speaker 3>right handed hitters to do that over the last several years,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why that's why he's making a big money.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think what I did in the breakdown was

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<v Speaker 3>that over the last couple of games, he's not nearly

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<v Speaker 3>as rotational. He's almost straight on now. And instead of

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<v Speaker 3>going you know, this way to get his bat head

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<v Speaker 3>and to get his body in position to make contact,

0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a no margin. There's no real margin prayer. He's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of going straight or towards the ball, working behind

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<v Speaker 3>it and through it, and I just think bats have

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<v Speaker 3>been better. I don't know if that was by design.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if kay Long they hit a coach

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<v Speaker 3>was working on that specifically, but it's something that I

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<v Speaker 3>really noticed. I mean, he's really twisted up before, and

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<v Speaker 3>he seems a little bit more straight on now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it sounds like I it was about a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked with Kevin Long and he said that they

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<v Speaker 2>told him they stopped talking about chase rates.

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<v Speaker 3>And all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They he said that maybe he said it might have

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<v Speaker 2>ended in spring training. I'm not sure when they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's last been told about his chase rates, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like that that phrase has not been uttered nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as much over the past, over the.

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<v Speaker 3>Past couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>While we were talking about the rotation, and we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this last time. But now Spencer Turnbull takes a

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<v Speaker 2>no hitter in the seventh inning, and man, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I we know what's going to happen, right, I mean, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is there any do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys have any other thoughts on how to handle this?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know it's got to be Turnbull to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the bullpen and Walker to start me. Walker made

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<v Speaker 2>his final rehab start today in Scranton six and the

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<v Speaker 2>third four runs, four earned fastball average eighty nine point five.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much effort he was putting into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was kind of like a final tune up,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think they got to find out about him, and why

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<v Speaker 4>not sooner than later. He's ready find out. And you

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<v Speaker 4>protect Turnbull a little bit because he hasn't pitched a

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<v Speaker 4>ton in the last couple of years, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>he's still there. He'll help you as a long man

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<v Speaker 4>in some way, shape or form. And all these guys

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<v Speaker 4>are going to get the opportunity to contribute. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not they actually do so. You know, all

0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:46.919
<v Speaker 4>eyes are going to be on Taiwan. He's gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to have to deliver a little bit. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>he deserves that chance because one hundred and seventy two

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<v Speaker 4>innings was really meaningful for that team last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Yeah, I think the Jim, if I put my

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<v Speaker 3>GM hat on, I mean, you got to give the

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<v Speaker 3>guy a answers, Jim said, and and basically it at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, it's gonna become a performance based thing. If

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<v Speaker 3>he's not pitching well in like four or five or

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.720
<v Speaker 3>six starts, he got to kind of give him a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of leash. Uh. And also kind of depends

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 3>if the team's playing well. If the team's playing well

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.199
<v Speaker 3>and then they don't and he's eating up innings, and

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<v Speaker 3>that factors in a little bit too. I do know,

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<v Speaker 3>just knowing Dave Dombrowski, at some point, if he's not

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<v Speaker 3>doing his job, Dave's gonna make a change. Dave's not afraid,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Dave and UH and Rob Thompson, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they're not afraid to make Especially Dave is not afraid to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, put the best guys out there. But I

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.360
<v Speaker 3>think he needs to get an opportunity to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he deserves it. There's a reason why they

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<v Speaker 3>signed him to that contract, and and we'll see, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>kind of go from there. It's uh, you know, Jim Figos,

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<v Speaker 3>he used to say this all the time, man, and

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.720
<v Speaker 3>these things. They have a way of working themselves out

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 3>and and I think this is going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 4>And as the Phillies Sco eight and two at home,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Mets and the Braves are both on

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<v Speaker 4>an eight and too ye too Barner heater, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, they're they're they're they're playing great. Man. The

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Mets are really surprising, was a Carlos Mendoza, the new

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<v Speaker 3>manager there is setting a totally different tone in the clubhouse.

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a different clubhouse now. I think their guys are

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<v Speaker 3>sort of on the same page. They're playing good baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>You're de Martate sterling Mortes. Sterling Morte is playing well.

0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.280
<v Speaker 3>He had a very poor, difficult year last year and

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 3>some injuries. They're playing pretty darn good baseball. And I

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 3>guess Lindora hasn't done a whole lot so far. I

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 3>know they lost their catcher, which is a big, big one.

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.679
<v Speaker 3>That was a tough one for him, But hey, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a this it's pretty exciting for the for the

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Mets fans, I mean, it's good and it's good for

0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 3>the division. I mean, you would think that Atlanta and

0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia would be the once and at the end of

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the day they probably will be. But it's pretty cool

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.760
<v Speaker 3>to see the Mets staying in there when even with

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Cody's Cody Sanga not not really pitching. You know, he's

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:09.200
<v Speaker 3>hurt right now too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Braves, would you know they lose Sean

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Murphy and Travis Darnaut, It's what two home runs each

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.639
<v Speaker 2>of the last two games. I mean, it's just like

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 2>it's it's such a Braves thing. They have all that

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>incredible depth and just they keep chugging along. Spencer Strider

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 2>is not pitching, they keep chugging along. Man, they find

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:27.120
<v Speaker 2>a way to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've got a great team. It's a very, very

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 3>complete team. I think it's gonna end up being a

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<v Speaker 3>really terrific race, especially if the Phillies starting pitching continues

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 3>to go as it is, It's gonna be a hell

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<v Speaker 3>of a race.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think, you know, opposing teams, the Braves, the Mets,

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.639
<v Speaker 4>other teams the Reds Phillies are going into play the Reds.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think they look at the Phillies and go, wow,

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.639
<v Speaker 4>you know they're hot, they're pitching staff is dealing, or

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<v Speaker 4>do you think they actually say, well, look who they

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 4>just beat up on? It are what?

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, we talk about it that, yeah, you.

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Can only beat the team that you're playing that night.

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 4>But what is it? What about from a player's perspective, Ruben,

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<v Speaker 4>Do they way way that the fact that they've played

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<v Speaker 4>weak opponents?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, honestly, it depends on the makeup of those

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 3>players and the makeup of that team. You know, if

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 3>they're a confident bunch, they'll say, hey, you know what,

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 3>we face these guys before we've raked them. I mean,

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 3>we've done some damage against them. They're not. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it depends on like the whole mentality of the team

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 3>and how confident they are, and you know, how confident

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 3>you know the manager is. It's just like the tone

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 3>that they have. But I did you know, these guys

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<v Speaker 3>watch and they know and you know, I remember there

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 3>was a time, you know when there's certain players that

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<v Speaker 3>I played with, when a guy when a guy was

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<v Speaker 3>coming in towns I go, man, I got no chance

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<v Speaker 3>against this guy. I'm like, dude, I would look I

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<v Speaker 3>would look at it, and I would go like that

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<v Speaker 3>was Greg Jefferies. Jeffreys every once in a while, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he have tough well I can't believe. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he was half joking or what the deal was,

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<v Speaker 3>But like, I never wanted to ever succumb to the pitcher.

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<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to. I want to say to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, if he got me last time, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get him this time. And so I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about the mentality of the You gotta have

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<v Speaker 3>a little bravado, man. You gotta have a little Dave

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Winfield in that in that box. You gotta have a

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 3>little Juan Soto in that about don't matter whether that

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<v Speaker 3>it's Dwight Gooden out there pitching or it's uh Molly Putts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's it's it's it's a uh, you just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of have to have the right mentality. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it really depends on the makeup of the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder if like the Reds are sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>because they played him earlier season. Man, they weren't even

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<v Speaker 2>playing that great when we had him and maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>Rockies and the White Sox breeze some new life. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is funny though, you got, like I've seen this

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<v Speaker 2>in my Twitter feed, people talking about, wow, they only

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<v Speaker 2>beat that beat the two worst teams in baseball. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do that, you gotta do that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>last season, only eight teams finished the season with winning

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<v Speaker 2>records against teams with winning records, you know, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like it's hard to beat the winning teams.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to beat these bad teams.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know they didn't go for and too, they

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<v Speaker 2>went six and oh and that you know, as bad

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<v Speaker 2>as they are, they did everything that they needed to do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this weekend, let's talk about this. These matchups

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<v Speaker 1>here Monday, Ranger Suarez versus Hunter Green, Tuesday, Christopher Sanchez

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<v Speaker 1>versus Andrew Abbott. Wednesday, Spencer Turnbull and probably his last

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<v Speaker 1>start for a while. You could be back at some

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<v Speaker 1>point versus Nicklodolo, and then the series finale on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wheeler versus Graham Ashcraft.

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<v Speaker 3>Should be a good series.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if Spencer Turnbull is just gonna keep making

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<v Speaker 4>it a little interesting with another beauty in Cincinnati just

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<v Speaker 4>keep adding to the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it's got Does that make things uncomfortable for Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson or does he just know that, listen, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's not a big yeah right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he knows what he has to do. I

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<v Speaker 4>think defensive Turnbull probably knows why he was signed here

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<v Speaker 4>in what role and he if nothing else, these good

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<v Speaker 4>starts he's had, I think solidifies his place on the

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<v Speaker 4>roster and on the pitching staff and they know they

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<v Speaker 4>have something there that that can help in a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of different roles.

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<v Speaker 3>It was interesting, it was it was cool to listen

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<v Speaker 3>to to to him talk about you know, after his

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<v Speaker 3>last start he said, hey, listen, I'm just grateful I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting opportunities and I'm pitching well, and he knows. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it was almost like his quotes were like, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be back in the bullpen at some

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<v Speaker 3>point probably, but he's grateful to be able to have

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<v Speaker 3>this opportunity and a pitch with his team. He loves

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<v Speaker 3>his teammates. I mean, he said all the right things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously for him personally, we'd love to take

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<v Speaker 3>continue to take the ball and you got to love that.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 3>And he should be a little bit pissed off about not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, uh, take having that role taken away. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you want out of the player. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you want. You want to fight, you want

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 3>those little a little uh whatever and vinegar. But and

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 3>you want that out of out of those players. And

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<v Speaker 3>uh and that's okay. But again, you know, these things

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 3>have a way of working themselves out, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just great. It's just a great signing man. When

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<v Speaker 3>you start thinking about, you know, the pro scouting people

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<v Speaker 3>and the people that had the decision of bringing him

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<v Speaker 3>in on this contract, I mean he's sort of already

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<v Speaker 3>paid for his contract with his contribution in one month,

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 3>which is kind of crazy, but that's true. When you

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<v Speaker 3>start thinking about breaking down, you know, wins and losses

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and what it costs to win a baseball game and

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<v Speaker 3>what the value of that is, he's already sort of

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<v Speaker 3>paid for his contract in his first you know, three

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<v Speaker 3>or four starts.

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<v Speaker 4>Ruben got any memories of Cincinnati when you're a player,

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 4>plny big games? There any good games? You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you know what I remember about Cincinnati? I remember

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>way way back when I traveled when as a bat boy,

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 3>traveling with the team, I remember like witnessing this is

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 3>way back in uh I guess it was Riverfront is

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Riverfront Stadium, way back when, and thinking to myself and

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<v Speaker 3>watching the bat boys because I always keyed on the

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 3>bat boys back when I was a bat boys. See

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<v Speaker 3>how they did their job right. They always had two

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 3>guys sitting, one ball boy and one bat boy right there. Dude.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 3>They were the fastest, quickest, best bat boys in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, boom, it was like clockwork. Boom boom, boom.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I got I was like, oh my god,

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I was in all of them. You know, they were

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 3>just like robots. It was sure they did. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I would never and I think I would thought to

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>myself ever since that moment, as I set the tone

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>for me, I was like, I'm not going to let

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<v Speaker 3>these guys beat me. I'm gonna show these guys what

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of bat boy I am. I mean, I'm serious, man.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything was you know back.

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>In the day. You know they had uh, you know,

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.959
<v Speaker 3>George Foster and Conception. I mean, I had unbelievable teams.

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<v Speaker 3>But but they did everything just so by the book man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like clockwork, and I was That was

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<v Speaker 3>the most impressive thing that I remember that. The only

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<v Speaker 3>other story I will tell is that was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>funny was when when I was a rumor that that

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to become the assistant GM of the team,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was still playing, and I think David Weathers

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 3>was on the mound at Tobbins was behind the plate

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and it was like, I don't know, the eighth or

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 3>ninth inning or something like that, and I and I

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 3>had had a bad year that year, but boom, David

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Weathers comes in. I punch a base hit or double

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<v Speaker 3>or something up the middle and scored. I drove in

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<v Speaker 3>a run and aparently and Tommins he was like screaming

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 3>at the plate when that Ren scored, like, I cannot

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>believe that assistant GM just beat her ass. What the

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 3>hell is going on? Here?

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<v Speaker 4>Were you?

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:12.479
<v Speaker 3>You were?

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 4>You were on the team in ninety eight, right, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember in the old stadium Mark Lewis was

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<v Speaker 4>on the team. Yes, guys signed Mark Lewis for one year.

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<v Speaker 4>He was from Cincinnati and his buddies were all sitting

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<v Speaker 4>behind the dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, and one of them fell into the dugout.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Lewis todd there's a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Fight.

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<v Speaker 4>All his friends are getting a fight, and one of

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 4>them tumbles into the dugout like head rest and he's like,

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 4>he's you know, he's laid out on the dugout floor

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 4>and Rex Hudgard goes over to him says, dude, don't

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 4>roll over. Your head is right next to a giant loogie.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>There was a big there and looking his head out

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 4>of the puddle of spit. And it was such a

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 4>fun story to write because Oddler is so colorful, his

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 4>quotes are great. He's described but Mark Lewis's buddies, one

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 4>of his buddies fell into the dugout during the game,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 4>and it was unreal.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Were they fighting each other or fighting somebody else?

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 4>One of them selling the dugout.

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Buddy hurt, but I think they were cheering for the

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Phillies because he was Mark Lewis's buddy and against the

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati guys. It was some kind of brawl and it

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>literally fell.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the dugout, over the dugout, down into the dugout

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<v Speaker 4>and Brookie Bob brook Over when we're watching this from

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 4>the press box and laughing, and we didn't know if something, sir,

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 4>We were kind of laughing. We're looking down there, and

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Bob brook Over says, I come to a Reds game

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 4>and Jerry Springer show breaks out and Hal McCoy from

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 4>the Dayton Daily News used that quote and his lead

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 4>of his story, Great Hall of Fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's so funny.

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 4>Another great Cincinnati story. Jerry Krasnik, our good buddy, Jerry

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 4>Krasnik is covering the team for the Cincinnati Post and

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 4>during the March March shot or era, and he writes

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 4>a critical story about Marge shot which really wasn't hard

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 4>to do. She gets totally. She gets pissed off about

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 4>this story that Jerry wrote and sees him in the

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 4>media lunch room before the game the media dining room

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 4>and throws his ass out, won't let him have dinner,

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 4>throws him out of the media dining room. It gets better.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Word gets down to the Red's clubhouse. They didn't like

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 4>March very much.

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>The players.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Word gets down to the Reds clubhouse that Marge has

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 4>thrown Jerry Krasnick out of the press, out of the

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 4>press dining room. Tim Belcher orders him like a cheeseburger

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and a slice of pizza and he sends it up

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 4>to the press box.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that is great, it's funny. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we get something that good this weekend.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>This week in Cincinnati, now nobody can fall into the

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>dugout because they have the netting up, you know.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a great thing.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>The two things. Two cities there that are great baseball cities,

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 3>one of Cincinnati, the other one's Baltimore. I think that

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 3>they're enjoying some good young players coming through their systems.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 3>I picked the Cincinnati Rants to win the Central Division

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 3>this year and I picked the Orioles to win of

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 3>the A L East. So but it's but it's cool

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>to see, like, you know, the flavor of this city

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 3>bounce back. I hope there's great crowds because it's got

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 3>a chance to be a really good series here. I

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 3>know it's I know it's early in the season and

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 3>it's on a early weekday series, but hopefully it'll be

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 3>out there in droves.

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<v Speaker 4>It's would be a fun series. And you gotta love

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I think if you're a Phillies fan, you gotta love

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the idea that ranger against the ball in the first

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 4>game because first game can be such a tone center.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yep, especially for the bullpen. Right. They continue to

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 3>save the bullpen even though they're rested.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guys, thanks so much. It should be a fun week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll check back later this week. Thank you everybody for

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<v Speaker 2>listening to The Philly Show. Until next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Smell you later, Ruben, I'll be smelling you. Jim loving

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<v Speaker 3>to logo