1 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Amar Junior Jim Salisbury. 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: I am Todd. 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Solecki, the Phillies Fellows. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Uh just had an eight and two homestand but that 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: is not why I'm excited. I'm excited, very excited because 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: we have a pretty sweet logo. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: I want to talk about. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: If you're watching on you, if you're watching on YouTube, 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: you just saw a kind of float across the screen. 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna be everywhere now. I mean, you guys gotta 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: be pumped. This is pretty cool. I feel like I 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: feel like we went from like a Banana Republic podcast 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: to like a legitimate podcast. 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Now we have a really really awesome logo. 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: What do you guys, Todd, you got some nice blue hair. 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: That's right, look good. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's so cool. So I 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: gotta tell you a story. We got to give a 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: shout out to Pat Kritz. He works at Thought Thought 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: Tub and he reached out after the first or second episode, 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: And to be honest, like, we threw this thing kind 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: of gether together at the last minute, and my wife Ryan, 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: I said, I'm in a panic. I'm like, we got 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: to get this thing up on Apple, we have to 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: have a logo, and she's like, well, how are you 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: gonna do that? 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know. 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: So my wife, with a one year old hanging on 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: her bangs out this really simple, basic logo just to 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: get us up on all these podcasts. Then Pat reaches 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: out and he says, I'm a huge Phillies fan. Not 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: only am I a huge Phillies fan, but I also 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Phillies reporters and broadcasters. I love Ruben, 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: I love Jim, I love you. I went to Penn State. 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: I've dabbled in some graphic design. I've done some things. 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Would you be interested in me designing a logo for you? 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: So I'm like sure. I check out his website and 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, this dude is legit. If anybody's been down 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: the Pen Up Butter Aisle at any supermarket and they've 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: ever seen Justin's Peanut butter Almond butter peanut butter cups, 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: this is the dude that designed it. And he said, 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to design you a logo, and uh, I 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: think it's just great. I think it's really cool. I 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: love us in the bullpen car. It's got a retro field. 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: We're kind of retro. I think we're fun. It's got 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: some fun vibes to it. 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: I dig it. I think if it's man, that's this 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: is really really cool. I mean, I love the color scheme. 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: I love the car, man, I mean, the bullpen car 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: is kidding me, it's so it's so choice. I love it, yes, yes. 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: And I love the exhaust coming out the bat for you. 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: Of course you would. 54 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: We took the governor off the bullpen cart and now 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: we're moting her along. 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: So but anyway, I wanted to give a shout out 57 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: to Pat. 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: If you like the logo, let us know if you know, 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: if you like it enough, and maybe we'll make some 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: T shirts at some point. That would be kind of 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: fun too, to be walking around some Philly Show T 62 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: shirts with. 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: The sweet there's some sweet swag ideas too, man, Yeah, yeah, sweet. 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: Some sweet swag potentially down the road. 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: So thank you, Pat again thought tub check them out 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: at thought tub dot com. Guys, let's jump into this 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: just completed homestand the Phillies Go eight and two. I 68 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: look this up Best Phillies homestand of ten or more 69 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: games since June of twenty eleven. They went nine and 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 2: two in a homestand pretty impressive. They're fourteen and eight. 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: They didn't get to be six games over five hundred 72 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: last season until June twenty ninth, two years ago. They 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: didn't get to six over until July eighth. And here 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: are the other six games over five hundred. You know, 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: when you guys look back at this homestand Jim, let's 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: start with you, what what kind of stands out to you? 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: What kind you know, real A bunch of stuff stands 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: out you mess in twenty eleven homestand and I guess 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: the common denominator is starting pitching. Obviously twenty eleven, the 80 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: rotation that's very good, starting pitching on that team, and 81 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: uh this you know they what do they put up 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: a one to five e RA in this series in this. 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: Home Yeah, are in the home stand, yes sir? Yeah, 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: the starters, starters, the start and. 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: You know, I mean carried uh two times, they carried 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: no hitters. 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 3: Deep. 88 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: I think a lot of timely hitting. You know, we 89 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: sort of Trey Turner really come alive. I mean, I 90 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: think that really stood out. Kyle Schwarber. You know, look, 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: I know people are gonna say, well, it was the 92 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: White Sox and the Rockies, and the White Sox is 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: just brutal and the Rockies are very bad. But you 94 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: there'll be tougher tests. There will be tougher tests, but 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: you can only pass the one on your desk that 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: that day or it presented to you that day. So 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: I think they passed it. Eight and two. They passed 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: it obviously in flying collars. So you know, to be 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: what five what are they five over five hundred now. 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: Six six or fourteen eight? 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, goodbye slow start talk right. 102 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no more slow start start talk. And 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: you know, when you look at the uh, you start 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: looking at you know, what kind of schedule you have 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: before the season starts. You look at some of these 106 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: teams and you think to yourself, well, Colorado doesn't look 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: like a real strong team. You got the White Sox 108 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: coming in and they're rebuilding, so we got a chance 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: to make some Hey. But the reality of it is, 110 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: I mean you really have to play good baseball to 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: do it. I mean it's still they're still major league teams. 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: They're not. It's not chock full of talenty. They're one 113 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: of these teams. But to go back to back sweeps. 114 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: I mean that's almost impossible to do. You just don't 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: do that often. And and I you know, I'm always 116 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: and you guys know this, but I'm always about the 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: starting pitching. It was just dominant. I mean they really 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: they pounded the strike zone. They didn't off people. They 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: you know, they pitched. It wasn't like they were dominating 120 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: with you know, one hundred mile an hour fastballs and 121 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: you know, ninety seven mile an hour cutters or sliders. 122 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: They were pitching. Everybody in the rotation was pitching. Nola, Wheeler, Sanchez, 123 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: Suarez was outstanding, I mean Turnbull, I mean all of them. 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: And they pitched really, really well, and it's a it's 125 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: a really good sign for the team. You don't know 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: how healthy they're going to be. You don't know how 127 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: factor they're going to continue to be. They're going to 128 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: face tougher teams here here in Cincinnati coming up, and 129 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: then they got to go to San Diego in LA. 130 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: It's going to be a tough road trip. But they 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: did make some great hay and I think they had 132 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: contributions offensively from everybody. I mean, Alec Boehm had huge contributions. 133 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: Even Harper had some base hits and some walks. Swarburg 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: got on base, he had a couple of homers. You know, 135 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: there's just a lot of you talked about Turner. He's 136 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: just red hot. But it's uh, it's it bodes very 137 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: very well for this ball club because they got a 138 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: chance to you know, they had a chance to make 139 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: some hay and they did it. 140 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: Another little thing that another little thing that jumped out 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: of me real quick was their work in the first inning. 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: You know they're first at bat. You know, they fall 144 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: down today and by two runs early Noliga is of 145 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: the two and they come right back with three. It 146 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: seems like they jumped out to so many early leads 147 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: or retook the momentum immediately. You know, Schwarber with the 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: leadoff home run the other night. They're you know, their 149 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: numbers in the first inning as a team, schwarbro Is 150 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: are incredible in the first inning. But you know, as 151 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: a team, you know, they're they're in the top three 152 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: or four in like every major offensive car category in 153 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: the first inning, and they're just getting to these early 154 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: starts and kind of riding that. Have you noticed. 155 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I've definitely noticed that. And I think today. 156 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: It was a great example of it. You know, to 157 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: see them Noah gives up that that two run home 158 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: run and to see the Phillies come back and score three. Uh, 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: they got a little bit of a gift there on 160 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: that double steal. That kind of but but those are 161 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: the those are the things that kind of go your way. 162 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: I guess when you're when you're playing well. But I 163 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: think it's a team that is you knew was going 164 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: to score runs, and they show that they are going 165 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: to score runs. And now, like like Rubin said, they 166 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: just have to kind of keep it going through the 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: on this next upcoming road trip. 168 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you talked about the slug. You know, 169 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: how come they're not slugging? You know, it was the 170 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: first part they really did not get enough. I honestly 171 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 3: believe this, and we've talked about it as plenty and 172 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: I don't think they got enough reps. And now they've 173 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: gotten enough reps and they're starting to screwing the bats 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: and the slug is coming. I mean, these guys are 175 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: just too good. They're there. Their talent is just too great. 176 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: And uh, and it's nice to see them, you know. 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, if you're a Philly fan. It's nice to 178 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: see him doing some serious dam The other thing that 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: I will talk about a little bit is their defense. 180 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: Their infield defense has gotten better. Alec Bohma is playing 181 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: a very good third base. He did have like one 182 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: air one or two airs, but he's played very very 183 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: well defensively. He's gotten better and better. There's a lot 184 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: of questions about whether the guy could even play third 185 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: base on an everyday basis on a championship Calver club, 186 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: but he can do it, and he's gotten better and better. 187 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: His confidence is rising, and he's becoming at least an 188 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: adequate or average third basement at this point, Trey Turner 189 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: has improved a lot. I know, he struggled quite a 190 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: bit last year, and he's starting to secure the baseball better. 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: And stat's always been good. And you know what Harper's learning. 192 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: I mean, he made a lot of diving plays. He 193 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: picked a couple of balls today in the game or 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: in the game on Sunday, And I mean he's starting 195 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: to learn the position pretty well at first base. And 196 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: the then obviously you got Johann you know, you got 197 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: Johann Rojas doing doing, you know, amazing things in center field. 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: It up really nicely defensively, and uh, and that's been 199 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: an impressive part of the sort of the transition and 200 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: what they've done. Dave Dombrowski and Sample and whoever else 201 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: is in charge of sort of remapping that because two 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: or three years ago we're like, this defense can't get 203 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: it done, and they're playing pretty darn well right now. 204 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're seeing, you know, the pitchers that 205 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: we talked about, the starting pitcher of the one five 206 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: to one era, and I think just over all the season, 207 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: I think they have the second best ear in baseball 208 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Philly starters, behind only the Red Sox. 209 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of that has to do with the defense. 210 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: You know. It's like Zach Wheeler last season, I think 211 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: he could have been in a stronger position to win 212 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: the sag Or if he got a little bit of better. 213 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Defense the first two or three months of the season. 214 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: Speaking of Zach Wheeler, I was wondering when it got 215 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: to the seventh eighth inning last night. We were sitting 216 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: there going like, how what what is Rob Thompson thinking 217 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: right now? Because I'm sure he was nervous, right, I mean, 218 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: he said he was gonna let me go to one twenty. 219 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: But man, I wonder if you would is gonna let him. 220 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 3: Finish that game if it got to that point in. 221 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: The night before as well, or was it Friday night Turnbull? 222 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: These guys carrying these deep no hitters, and it's early, 223 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: it's chili. You're monitoring pitch counts, especially on a guy 224 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 4: like Turnbull who's coming back, you know, he's a couple 225 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: of years removed from the surgery, Especially on a guy 226 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: like Wheeler, who you know, it's chili right, It's it's 227 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: cold right now. Uh, they're pitching kind of chili weather. Well, 228 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: you want Wheeler to pitch in chili weather again in 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 4: six months, you know you you want them to, you know, 230 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: if you can nip and tuck and save a bullet 231 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: or two. That's why today Sunday I had no problem 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 4: with Rob getting Nola, you know, with a sizeable lead, 233 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: you know, a complete game. And it's great and it's nice, 234 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: and we love them. We kind of at times long 235 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: for the past when they were you know, they occurred 236 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: with more regularity. But there's nothing wrong with saving a 237 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: few bullets for the for the for the holy month October. 238 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know, so, so Rob was saying that before 239 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: the game, and after the game is like, I I'm trying, 240 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm dying to get some of these relievers some work 241 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: because they haven't pitched in a few days. So after 242 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: the game I talked to Jeff Hoffman just for a 243 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: few seconds, I said, out of curiosity, are you guys 244 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: sitting in the in the bullpen after being worked so 245 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: hard the first twelve games of the season going, Man, 246 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: I could really you know, they're almost pitching too good 247 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: right now because now we're not pitching. And he said, actually, 248 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: we were kind of joking about it, like, man, could 249 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: we get some innings here please? And then Jeff and 250 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: I guess some of the other veterans told Ryan Kirkan like, 251 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: enjoy this while it lasts, cause you don't know if 252 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: it will happen again this season, because at some point, 253 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna be going, oh my gosh, could 254 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: we please just get like a day or two in 255 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: a row where we're not working our butts off. So 256 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: they're enjoying it right now. They they want to stay sharp, 257 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: of course, but they enjoyed this little ten day break. 258 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: They got no doubt. And in this day and age, 259 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: you start talking about some of the bullpens and they're 260 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: eating up almost forty or fifty percent of the innings. 261 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: And when you're doing that, you're putting so much heat 262 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: on those guys, and that's why it's tougher to go 263 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: back to back early, you know, with guys. And you 264 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: know why are you're not going back to back well, 265 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: because you haven't gotten your starters past the fifth inning. 266 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: And so that's the beauty of the domino effect of 267 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: what this means to these guys long term. If they 268 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: can put a couple of these in a row, or 269 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: you know, two out of the three next starts for 270 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: each one of these guys can get into the sixth 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: and seventh inning consistently, Boy oh boy, does that say 272 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: these guys later on? 273 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: They've done a very very good job keeping their starters 274 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: healthy over the last few years. 275 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. Paul Bukaid is a guy that came over from 276 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox. I mean, you know, it's interesting, 277 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: what you know, we're one of the very first thing. 278 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: You know, Paul was over there when I was a coach, 279 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: and one of the very first things that I wanted 280 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: to do with my outfielders was to do long toss 281 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: and it was like the first time he had heard 282 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: that from a coach in like the longest time with 283 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: my out with the outfielders, and he was like, thank god, Ruben, 284 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: thank god, I finally got somebody who wants to throw 285 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: long toss. And it's like, you know, Paul's got sort 286 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: of that old school mentality that you know, you gotta 287 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: you gotta take care of your arm by working your 288 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: arm and building it and and I think that that's 289 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: sort of you know, his mentality too. 290 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: Did you see, guys see the smile and Nick Cassianis's 291 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: face on Saturday when he tripled, It was like the 292 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: entire weight of the world was lifted off his shoulders. 293 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: I know he went hitless in the series finale on Sunday, 294 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: but you know, maybe that gets them going a little bit. 295 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: Three hits on Saturday night. Have you guys seen better 296 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: at bats for him? Is there any reason to be 297 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: optimistic he's going to since Sinnati this week he's had 298 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: he had a great couple of years in Cincinnati. He's 299 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: comfortable there. Yes, I mean, maybe maybe this is the week. 300 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 301 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: I feel like he's definitely getting closer. You know, the 302 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: track record has been too good to not think it's 303 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: going to come. And you know, Cincinnati, like you mentioned, uh, 304 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: give him a positive vibe, good ballpark to hit him. 305 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's really close for him. You know, 306 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: he's a guy a couple of good games and confidence 307 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: in building, and I think he can ride that. 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: So so I did a little bit of a breakdown 309 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: on NBC Sports during the during the pregame on the 310 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: game on Saturday, excuse me on Sunday today, And what 311 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: was pretty cool about it was that, you know, one 312 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: of the things that I saw with him was he 313 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: was his lower half was really turned at his setup 314 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: so that he was almost had his you know, his 315 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: left hip was almost pointing towards the umpire. He was 316 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: that far turned. And I felt like, just like in 317 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: any other just again, any other hitter or pitcher, if 318 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: you're not going if you're going too far east west 319 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: like rotationally, you're not staying behind the ball, especially as 320 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: a hitter, not staying behind the ball, and you're not 321 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: working through the middle of the field. And that's one 322 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: of the things that he does extremely well is drive 323 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: the ball the opposite way. He's one of the better 324 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: right handed hitters to do that over the last several years, 325 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: and that's why that's why he's making a big money. 326 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: But I think what I did in the breakdown was 327 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: that over the last couple of games, he's not nearly 328 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: as rotational. He's almost straight on now. And instead of 329 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: going you know, this way to get his bat head 330 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: and to get his body in position to make contact, 331 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: there's a no margin. There's no real margin prayer. He's 332 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: sort of going straight or towards the ball, working behind 333 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: it and through it, and I just think bats have 334 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: been better. I don't know if that was by design. 335 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if kay Long they hit a coach 336 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: was working on that specifically, but it's something that I 337 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: really noticed. I mean, he's really twisted up before, and 338 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: he seems a little bit more straight on now. 339 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like I it was about a week ago. 340 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: I talked with Kevin Long and he said that they 341 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: told him they stopped talking about chase rates. 342 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: And all that stuff. 343 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: They he said that maybe he said it might have 344 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: ended in spring training. I'm not sure when they you know, 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: he's last been told about his chase rates, but it 346 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: seems like that that phrase has not been uttered nearly 347 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: as much over the past, over the. 348 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: Past couple of weeks. 349 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: While we were talking about the rotation, and we talked 350 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: about this last time. But now Spencer Turnbull takes a 351 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: no hitter in the seventh inning, and man, I mean, 352 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: I we know what's going to happen, right, I mean, but. 353 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, is there any do you. 354 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: Guys have any other thoughts on how to handle this? 355 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: And you know it's got to be Turnbull to the 356 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: to the bullpen and Walker to start me. Walker made 357 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: his final rehab start today in Scranton six and the 358 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: third four runs, four earned fastball average eighty nine point five. 359 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: I don't know how much effort he was putting into it. 360 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he was kind of like a final tune up, 361 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: But I think I. 362 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: Think they got to find out about him, and why 363 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: not sooner than later. He's ready find out. And you 364 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: protect Turnbull a little bit because he hasn't pitched a 365 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: ton in the last couple of years, and you know 366 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: he's still there. He'll help you as a long man 367 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 4: in some way, shape or form. And all these guys 368 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: are going to get the opportunity to contribute. It's just 369 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: whether or not they actually do so. You know, all 370 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: eyes are going to be on Taiwan. He's gonna have 371 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: to have to deliver a little bit. But I think 372 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: he deserves that chance because one hundred and seventy two 373 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: innings was really meaningful for that team last year. 374 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I think the Jim, if I put my 375 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: GM hat on, I mean, you got to give the 376 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: guy a answers, Jim said, and and basically it at 377 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 3: some point, it's gonna become a performance based thing. If 378 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: he's not pitching well in like four or five or 379 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: six starts, he got to kind of give him a 380 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: little bit of leash. Uh. And also kind of depends 381 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: if the team's playing well. If the team's playing well 382 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: and then they don't and he's eating up innings, and 383 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: that factors in a little bit too. I do know, 384 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: just knowing Dave Dombrowski, at some point, if he's not 385 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: doing his job, Dave's gonna make a change. Dave's not afraid, 386 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: you know, Dave and UH and Rob Thompson, I mean 387 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: they're not afraid to make Especially Dave is not afraid to, 388 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: you know, put the best guys out there. But I 389 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 3: think he needs to get an opportunity to do that. 390 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: I think he deserves it. There's a reason why they 391 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: signed him to that contract, and and we'll see, we'll 392 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: kind of go from there. It's uh, you know, Jim Figos, 393 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: he used to say this all the time, man, and 394 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: these things. They have a way of working themselves out 395 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: and and I think this is going to be the case. 396 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: And as the Phillies Sco eight and two at home, 397 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: I think the Mets and the Braves are both on 398 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: an eight and too ye too Barner heater, I'm sorry. 399 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they're they're they're they're playing great. Man. The 400 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: Mets are really surprising, was a Carlos Mendoza, the new 401 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: manager there is setting a totally different tone in the clubhouse. 402 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: It's a different clubhouse now. I think their guys are 403 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: sort of on the same page. They're playing good baseball. 404 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: You're de Martate sterling Mortes. Sterling Morte is playing well. 405 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: He had a very poor, difficult year last year and 406 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: some injuries. They're playing pretty darn good baseball. And I 407 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: guess Lindora hasn't done a whole lot so far. I 408 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: know they lost their catcher, which is a big, big one. 409 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: That was a tough one for him, But hey, this 410 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: is a this it's pretty exciting for the for the 411 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: Mets fans, I mean, it's good and it's good for 412 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: the division. I mean, you would think that Atlanta and 413 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: Philadelphia would be the once and at the end of 414 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: the day they probably will be. But it's pretty cool 415 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: to see the Mets staying in there when even with 416 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 3: Cody's Cody Sanga not not really pitching. You know, he's 417 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: hurt right now too. 418 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the Braves, would you know they lose Sean 419 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: Murphy and Travis Darnaut, It's what two home runs each 420 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: of the last two games. I mean, it's just like 421 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: it's it's such a Braves thing. They have all that 422 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: incredible depth and just they keep chugging along. Spencer Strider 423 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: is not pitching, they keep chugging along. Man, they find 424 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 2: a way to get it done. 425 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a great team. It's a very, very 426 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: complete team. I think it's gonna end up being a 427 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: really terrific race, especially if the Phillies starting pitching continues 428 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: to go as it is, It's gonna be a hell 429 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: of a race. 430 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: Do you think, you know, opposing teams, the Braves, the Mets, 431 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 4: other teams the Reds Phillies are going into play the Reds. 432 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: Do you think they look at the Phillies and go, wow, 433 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: you know they're hot, they're pitching staff is dealing, or 434 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: do you think they actually say, well, look who they 435 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: just beat up on? It are what? 436 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: You know, we talk about it that, yeah, you. 437 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: Can only beat the team that you're playing that night. 438 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: But what is it? What about from a player's perspective, Ruben, 439 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: Do they way way that the fact that they've played 440 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: weak opponents? 441 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, it depends on the makeup of those 442 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: players and the makeup of that team. You know, if 443 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: they're a confident bunch, they'll say, hey, you know what, 444 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: we face these guys before we've raked them. I mean, 445 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: we've done some damage against them. They're not. You know, 446 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: it depends on like the whole mentality of the team 447 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: and how confident they are, and you know, how confident 448 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: you know the manager is. It's just like the tone 449 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: that they have. But I did you know, these guys 450 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: watch and they know and you know, I remember there 451 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: was a time, you know when there's certain players that 452 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: I played with, when a guy when a guy was 453 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: coming in towns I go, man, I got no chance 454 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: against this guy. I'm like, dude, I would look I 455 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: would look at it, and I would go like that 456 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: was Greg Jefferies. Jeffreys every once in a while, you know, 457 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: he have tough well I can't believe. I don't know 458 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 3: if he was half joking or what the deal was, 459 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: But like, I never wanted to ever succumb to the pitcher. 460 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: I always wanted to. I want to say to myself, 461 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: you know what, if he got me last time, I'm 462 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: gonna get him this time. And so I think it's 463 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: a lot about the mentality of the You gotta have 464 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: a little bravado, man. You gotta have a little Dave 465 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: Winfield in that in that box. You gotta have a 466 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: little Juan Soto in that about don't matter whether that 467 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: it's Dwight Gooden out there pitching or it's uh Molly Putts. 468 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's it's a uh, you just 469 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: sort of have to have the right mentality. I think 470 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: it really depends on the makeup of the team. 471 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if like the Reds are sitting there 472 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: because they played him earlier season. Man, they weren't even 473 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: playing that great when we had him and maybe the 474 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: Rockies and the White Sox breeze some new life. But 475 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: it is funny though, you got, like I've seen this 476 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: in my Twitter feed, people talking about, wow, they only 477 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: beat that beat the two worst teams in baseball. But man, 478 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: you gotta do that, you gotta do that. You know, 479 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: last season, only eight teams finished the season with winning 480 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: records against teams with winning records, you know, so it's 481 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: not like it's hard to beat the winning teams. 482 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: You have to beat these bad teams. 483 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: And you know they didn't go for and too, they 484 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: went six and oh and that you know, as bad 485 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: as they are, they did everything that they needed to do, 486 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: you know. 487 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: But so this weekend, let's talk about this. These matchups 488 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: here Monday, Ranger Suarez versus Hunter Green, Tuesday, Christopher Sanchez 489 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: versus Andrew Abbott. Wednesday, Spencer Turnbull and probably his last 490 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: start for a while. You could be back at some 491 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: point versus Nicklodolo, and then the series finale on Thursday, 492 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler versus Graham Ashcraft. 493 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: Should be a good series. 494 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: I wonder if Spencer Turnbull is just gonna keep making 495 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: it a little interesting with another beauty in Cincinnati just 496 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: keep adding to the drama. 497 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: Is it's got Does that make things uncomfortable for Rob 498 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: Thompson or does he just know that, listen, we have 499 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: to do this. 500 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 501 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: I don't think it's not a big yeah right. 502 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: I think he knows what he has to do. I 503 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: think defensive Turnbull probably knows why he was signed here 504 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: in what role and he if nothing else, these good 505 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: starts he's had, I think solidifies his place on the 506 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: roster and on the pitching staff and they know they 507 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 4: have something there that that can help in a couple 508 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 4: of different roles. 509 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: It was interesting, it was it was cool to listen 510 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: to to to him talk about you know, after his 511 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 3: last start he said, hey, listen, I'm just grateful I'm 512 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: getting opportunities and I'm pitching well, and he knows. I 513 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 3: mean it was almost like his quotes were like, I know, 514 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to be back in the bullpen at some 515 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: point probably, but he's grateful to be able to have 516 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: this opportunity and a pitch with his team. He loves 517 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: his teammates. I mean, he said all the right things. 518 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously for him personally, we'd love to take 519 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: continue to take the ball and you got to love that. 520 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: And he should be a little bit pissed off about not, 521 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 3: you know, uh, take having that role taken away. But 522 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 3: that's what you want out of the player. I mean, 523 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: that's what you want. You want to fight, you want 524 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 3: those little a little uh whatever and vinegar. But and 525 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: you want that out of out of those players. And 526 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: uh and that's okay. But again, you know, these things 527 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: have a way of working themselves out, and uh, you know, 528 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 3: it's just great. It's just a great signing man. When 529 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: you start thinking about, you know, the pro scouting people 530 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: and the people that had the decision of bringing him 531 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: in on this contract, I mean he's sort of already 532 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: paid for his contract with his contribution in one month, 533 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy, but that's true. When you 534 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: start thinking about breaking down, you know, wins and losses 535 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: and what it costs to win a baseball game and 536 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: what the value of that is, he's already sort of 537 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: paid for his contract in his first you know, three 538 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: or four starts. 539 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: Ruben got any memories of Cincinnati when you're a player, 540 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 4: plny big games? There any good games? You know what? 541 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 3: Uh you know what I remember about Cincinnati? I remember 542 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: way way back when I traveled when as a bat boy, 543 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: traveling with the team, I remember like witnessing this is 544 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: way back in uh I guess it was Riverfront is 545 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: Riverfront Stadium, way back when, and thinking to myself and 546 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: watching the bat boys because I always keyed on the 547 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: bat boys back when I was a bat boys. See 548 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: how they did their job right. They always had two 549 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: guys sitting, one ball boy and one bat boy right there. Dude. 550 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: They were the fastest, quickest, best bat boys in the world. 551 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: I mean, boom, it was like clockwork. Boom boom, boom. 552 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: I mean I got I was like, oh my god, 553 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: I was in all of them. You know, they were 554 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: just like robots. It was sure they did. I was like, man, 555 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: I would never and I think I would thought to 556 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: myself ever since that moment, as I set the tone 557 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: for me, I was like, I'm not going to let 558 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: these guys beat me. I'm gonna show these guys what 559 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: kind of bat boy I am. I mean, I'm serious, man. 560 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: Everything was you know back. 561 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: In the day. You know they had uh, you know, 562 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 3: George Foster and Conception. I mean, I had unbelievable teams. 563 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: But but they did everything just so by the book man. 564 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 3: It was just like clockwork, and I was That was 565 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: the most impressive thing that I remember that. The only 566 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: other story I will tell is that was kind of 567 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 3: funny was when when I was a rumor that that 568 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: I was going to become the assistant GM of the team, 569 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: and I was still playing, and I think David Weathers 570 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: was on the mound at Tobbins was behind the plate 571 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: and it was like, I don't know, the eighth or 572 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: ninth inning or something like that, and I and I 573 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: had had a bad year that year, but boom, David 574 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Weathers comes in. I punch a base hit or double 575 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: or something up the middle and scored. I drove in 576 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: a run and aparently and Tommins he was like screaming 577 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: at the plate when that Ren scored, like, I cannot 578 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 3: believe that assistant GM just beat her ass. What the 579 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: hell is going on? Here? 580 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: Were you? 581 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 3: You were? 582 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: You were on the team in ninety eight, right, I was. 583 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: Do you remember in the old stadium Mark Lewis was 584 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: on the team. Yes, guys signed Mark Lewis for one year. 585 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: He was from Cincinnati and his buddies were all sitting 586 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: behind the dog. 587 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: Oh yes, and one of them fell into the dugout. 588 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: Mark Lewis todd there's a big. 589 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: Fight. 590 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: All his friends are getting a fight, and one of 591 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: them tumbles into the dugout like head rest and he's like, 592 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: he's you know, he's laid out on the dugout floor 593 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: and Rex Hudgard goes over to him says, dude, don't 594 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: roll over. Your head is right next to a giant loogie. 595 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: There was a big there and looking his head out 596 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: of the puddle of spit. And it was such a 597 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: fun story to write because Oddler is so colorful, his 598 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: quotes are great. He's described but Mark Lewis's buddies, one 599 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: of his buddies fell into the dugout during the game, 600 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: and it was unreal. 601 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: Were they fighting each other or fighting somebody else? 602 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: One of them selling the dugout. 603 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: Buddy hurt, but I think they were cheering for the 604 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: Phillies because he was Mark Lewis's buddy and against the 605 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: Cincinnati guys. It was some kind of brawl and it 606 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: literally fell. 607 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: Over the dugout, over the dugout, down into the dugout 608 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: and Brookie Bob brook Over when we're watching this from 609 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: the press box and laughing, and we didn't know if something, sir, 610 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: We were kind of laughing. We're looking down there, and 611 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: Bob brook Over says, I come to a Reds game 612 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: and Jerry Springer show breaks out and Hal McCoy from 613 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: the Dayton Daily News used that quote and his lead 614 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: of his story, Great Hall of Fair. 615 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. 616 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: Another great Cincinnati story. Jerry Krasnik, our good buddy, Jerry 617 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: Krasnik is covering the team for the Cincinnati Post and 618 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: during the March March shot or era, and he writes 619 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: a critical story about Marge shot which really wasn't hard 620 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: to do. She gets totally. She gets pissed off about 621 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: this story that Jerry wrote and sees him in the 622 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: media lunch room before the game the media dining room 623 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: and throws his ass out, won't let him have dinner, 624 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: throws him out of the media dining room. It gets better. 625 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: Word gets down to the Red's clubhouse. They didn't like 626 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: March very much. 627 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: The players. 628 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: Word gets down to the Reds clubhouse that Marge has 629 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: thrown Jerry Krasnick out of the press, out of the 630 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 4: press dining room. Tim Belcher orders him like a cheeseburger 631 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: and a slice of pizza and he sends it up 632 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: to the press box. 633 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: No, that is great, it's funny. Oh my gosh. 634 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: I hope we get something that good this weekend. 635 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: This week in Cincinnati, now nobody can fall into the 636 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: dugout because they have the netting up, you know. 637 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: I think it's a great thing. 638 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: The two things. Two cities there that are great baseball cities, 639 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: one of Cincinnati, the other one's Baltimore. I think that 640 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: they're enjoying some good young players coming through their systems. 641 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: I picked the Cincinnati Rants to win the Central Division 642 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: this year and I picked the Orioles to win of 643 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: the A L East. So but it's but it's cool 644 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: to see, like, you know, the flavor of this city 645 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: bounce back. I hope there's great crowds because it's got 646 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: a chance to be a really good series here. I 647 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: know it's I know it's early in the season and 648 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: it's on a early weekday series, but hopefully it'll be 649 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: out there in droves. 650 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: It's would be a fun series. And you gotta love 651 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 4: I think if you're a Phillies fan, you gotta love 652 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: the idea that ranger against the ball in the first 653 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: game because first game can be such a tone center. 654 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yep, especially for the bullpen. Right. They continue to 655 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: save the bullpen even though they're rested. 656 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: Well, guys, thanks so much. It should be a fun week. 657 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: We'll check back later this week. Thank you everybody for 658 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: listening to The Philly Show. Until next time. 659 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: Smell you later, Ruben, I'll be smelling you. Jim loving 660 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 3: to logo