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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is the j n V.

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Speaker 3: Jesse Lai Charlam and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building. That's right,

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Speaker 3: the good brother T. K.

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Speaker 2: Kirklees me to.

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Speaker 4: The mother Fky.

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Speaker 5: Summer visit from TK Kirkley means something big must be happening,

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Speaker 5: and it is. Yes, you just so not to catch

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Speaker 5: me if you can. World Tour, Yes, be alive Nation.

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Speaker 6: Yes we started in April, but you know I always

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Speaker 6: try to get to you when I give you a kick.

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Speaker 1: Stuff off.

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Speaker 6: But then with the kids and other stuff, I had

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Speaker 6: to travel, so everything worked out well. So I'm making

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Speaker 6: a pit stop this weekend for the Stress Factory because

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Speaker 6: it's my home. It's the only date that Viddy had

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Speaker 6: and I had to come do Jersey. So that's why

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Speaker 6: I'm here, you know, to promote that and to talk

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Speaker 6: about the the rest of the tour, which I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: be in Houston next week at the House of Blues,

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Speaker 6: and the nineteenth I'm gonna be at Elmo's in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited. I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, man, you just turned sixty three this year too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what keeps you motivated?

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Speaker 4: Man? What keeps you going?

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Speaker 1: I just think it's in my DNA, you know.

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Speaker 6: And at one time, I think we talked about I

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Speaker 6: was going to retire, and then when you start realizing,

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Speaker 6: when you're home for a couple of days or week,

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Speaker 6: you go, wow, this is I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 6: You're like, you know what, I think I need to

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Speaker 6: stay busy because I think that's the old mindset. People

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Speaker 6: think they need to stay retired just to chill. But

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Speaker 6: I think to stay youthful and active and live a

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Speaker 6: long time, you actually have to be active and fit

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Speaker 6: in your schedule, working out and taking care of yourself

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Speaker 6: all so I stay consistent with that.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about, you know, comedians stealing jokes, right,

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Speaker 3: And it's something that we always talk about all the time.

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Speaker 2: You've come up here so many.

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Speaker 3: Times, and you probably would have first one to talk

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Speaker 3: about signs of getting old and make sure you date

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Speaker 3: somebody that knows the signs of getting old, right, right?

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Speaker 3: Hearing that joke more and more, Yes, yes, does that

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Speaker 3: upset you when you when you hear your jokes.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing when I said that joke. Someone says,

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Speaker 6: Simbad did that joke years ago. What people don't know

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Speaker 6: about me? And I think Charlamagne can said because he's

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Speaker 6: worked with me a lot of times. I never watch

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Speaker 6: another comic. I always stay out the room. So what

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Speaker 6: happens as you get older in life and business you

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Speaker 6: talk about there's no comic that's not going to talk

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Speaker 6: about something that another comic has not talked about already.

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Speaker 6: It's impossible, right, it's going to be the same topic

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Speaker 6: and may not. Now, if you do somebody's material joke

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Speaker 6: for joke for joke, you're stealing the joke. But if

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Speaker 6: you dealing with topic like we all we're comedians. Do

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Speaker 6: you want to talk about marriage? You want to talk

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Speaker 6: about marriage. I want to talk about marriage, right. I

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Speaker 6: can't stop you from there there because that's your story.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I do about.

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Speaker 6: My stand up show is I read a lot and

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Speaker 6: when I go and get on the mic, whatever happens happens.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a set structure show because.

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Speaker 6: When I got my degree, it was we were taught

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Speaker 6: that when you give a speech, you never get the

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Speaker 6: same speech for the same audience because every audience is different,

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Speaker 6: So you truly have to be prepared for what's going

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Speaker 6: to happen. So when someone to steals something in mine,

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Speaker 6: I'm not that petty. I got so much material, Like

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Speaker 6: I'll do two three hours on you in a minute.

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Speaker 6: But when I have my own stand up show and

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Speaker 6: I put comics on the show, I run a tight ship.

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Speaker 6: I talk about what you cannot talk about because most

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Speaker 6: comics don't have comedy IQ and comede i Q is

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Speaker 6: like a Lebron James or Michael Jordan. They know a

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Speaker 6: lot about the other players on the teams, right. Well,

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Speaker 6: comedians don't do that because comedians will be on the

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Speaker 6: same show and want to go right behind each other.

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Speaker 6: And let's say something happened to Will Smith. Someone doesn't

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Speaker 6: they all go on, talk about Will Smith, they all

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Speaker 6: go on, talk about sex, they all go on. So

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Speaker 4: It's like, I'm tired of this.

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Speaker 6: He willing to listen, Like are the comics will No,

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Speaker 6: comics don't want to listen. What I what I found

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Speaker 6: out when I started structuring my show, there was I

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Speaker 6: was getting back last. Don't want nobody to shine. But

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Speaker 6: y'all know me for a long time. I worked hard

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Speaker 6: to get my name on the marquee, and I run

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Speaker 6: my show the way I want my show ran, regardless

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Speaker 6: of if a person gets upset or not, because I

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Speaker 6: and I want comics to you do this right, material,

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Speaker 6: you do this, you do that, and then bam I

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Speaker 6: come on and then it's a complete show.

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Speaker 4: And you a tough act to follow regardless.

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Speaker 6: DK absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 6: play You already know. I bring the heat. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: bring the heat. Whether it's a concert or whatever, I

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Speaker 6: bring the heat. And I saw you that that's interested.

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Speaker 6: That to be like a full circle moment.

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Speaker 5: You hosted the thirtieth anniversary of the Cash Money Millionaires.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and shout out to Baby and Slim. We've been

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Speaker 6: working on some other things and the Baby said, T

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Speaker 6: T you should do the the Essence Fest and I

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Speaker 6: turned him down. To be honest with you, Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: think when you get a certain ages, it's some things

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Speaker 1: No more.

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Speaker 4: Ence is perfect.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't know. I haven't been to the

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Speaker 1: Essence in twenty something years.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because Essence is perfect. It's a little trying

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Speaker 2: to ske a little low old. Yeah, but it's twenty five.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying is how old were you guys twenty

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Speaker 6: years ago? Yeh see that's when last time I was

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Speaker 6: at the Essence. So it was a different vibe then, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was a different vibe. So I was like, ah,

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Speaker 6: came back up again and I said, yo, baby, let's

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Speaker 6: you know, let's do the the Essence fast. So we

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Speaker 6: the YouTube celebration because you know, Leo Cohen and YouTube

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Speaker 6: gave them an award as well down YouTube, and I hosted.

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Speaker 6: I got to bring out the tucks and all that

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Speaker 6: what are you doing with them?

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Speaker 5: Because I've been hearing that you might have a Netflix

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Speaker 5: special coming. Yeah, but I'm here and you're doing something

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Speaker 5: with Birdman's with the Birdman like a special.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what we're going to do is everything should be

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Speaker 6: finalized soon, but we're going to do it October eighteenth

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Speaker 6: at the Filmore in New Orleans and it's going to

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Speaker 6: be Cash Money Presents t K Kirkland.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: So we getting ready to do something really really huge,

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Speaker 6: and then we got some other big things that we're doing.

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Speaker 1: So it's not even sent done.

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Speaker 4: But you went on tour with them back in the day, right, I.

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Speaker 6: Started with Cash Money And what happened was a man

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Speaker 6: shout out to Ron Bird because I was touring with

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Speaker 6: but they didn't have nobody to host it. So I'm

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Speaker 6: sitting in the wrners, you know, my opportunist. So I said,

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Speaker 6: ron y'all, y'all need somebody to go on?

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Speaker 4: He said, you want to go up?

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Speaker 2: Ron Bird was a tour manager.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly who Ron Bird is.

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Speaker 2: I was on that tour. You was on that tour, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I was yes, ye, yeah, right, And I went on

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Speaker 6: and baby saw me and you know, he said, yo,

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Speaker 6: they was about to do Ball of Blocking And he said, Yo,

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Speaker 6: He said, ain't you that brother from New Jersey Drive?

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Speaker 6: He says, well, we're about to do this movie called

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Speaker 6: Ball of Block. I want you to play a cop

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 5: Why you say he don't respect money because he was

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Speaker 5: just throwing You know, I'm old school, you know, I

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Speaker 5: believe everything you make you keep like I mean, when

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Speaker 5: the word stunner really fits him.

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Speaker 1: Because he stunts yea in a positive way.

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Speaker 4: How would you.

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Speaker 5: Tell these kids nowadays, and just people in general, how

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Speaker 5: would you tell them to respect money?

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Speaker 6: That's a good question, Charlamagne. What kids to me don't

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Speaker 6: get set up from the government because everybody gets their

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Speaker 6: nineteen years old, they send you this credit card to

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Speaker 6: get have twenty five hundred dollars on it, and kids,

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Speaker 6: most kids in the hood don't never get that kind

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Speaker 1: Now, when you get older, you really get your life.

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Speaker 6: They gave them to get your credit card, and you

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Speaker 6: realize now that twenty five hundred it's thirty thousand, five

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Speaker 6: hundred and eighteen cent. It was a setup from the beginning.

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Speaker 6: So what we want to tell kids is think about

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Speaker 6: even my age, you understand it better. But you can

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Speaker 6: really start it in your twenties and thirties, understand points

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Speaker 6: and discounts. Now, all of y'all travel a lot, most

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Speaker 6: cause you got miles and points. So when you run

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Speaker 6: into a situation, you don't spend your money. You use

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Speaker 6: your points to book them two round trips, two round trips,

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Speaker 6: tickets to England or Saint Lucia's or Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: Or Hawaii or Africa. Right, you do that.

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Speaker 6: So what we want the kids to understand is get

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Speaker 6: your nice credit card, start building up. Start going to

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Speaker 6: different hotels and you might start a low get to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, watch the game. A lot of people think that

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Speaker 4: Let me see. Oh, Laura Spellman Rockefeller.

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Speaker 5: Laura Spellman Rockefeller was an American abolitionist, philanthropist, school teacher,

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Speaker 4: Her husband was Standard Oil co founder John D. Rockefeller.

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Speaker 4: Memorial with name for her. Okay, you learned something new

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Speaker 4: What made you?

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Speaker 3: In eighteen eighty four, the school express your attitude for

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Speaker 5: Spelman College was named as the Laura Spelman due to

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Speaker 5: She just donated a lot of money to it. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Just to put it out there.

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Speaker 2: New York. Yes he's a white gentleman as well. Yes

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Speaker 4: Why didn't name it after him?

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have me researching this research, But at least

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: I saw you on Black TV. You said that a

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, the owner.

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Speaker 6: He going to the top, the owner because it was

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Speaker 4: Right, hold on, you need to for people that are

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because everything that was the credit card frauds

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Speaker 6: And once you go to court, your hands are tied

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Speaker 1: To they wait, Yeah, they waiting for you to slip.

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Speaker 6: You got to turn the other cheek when people are

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Speaker 1: A bad situation. So you got to make good choices.

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Speaker 4: How old were you when.

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Speaker 6: And let me tell you something, when you get hit

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Speaker 2: Late, But you forty years old come into the club late?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, coming, But that's the saying. I had a little

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Speaker 4: When he saw you with the gun.

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Speaker 6: You know, now, I'm thinking I'm in the Sopranos capitaler.

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Speaker 4: Put him a handcuff, took me in.

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Speaker 6: Handcuffed dog and took me to Rikers for thirty days

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: So they took me from Rykers Allen back down to

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Speaker 6: so they see the detectives every day that what's going on.

439
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 6: So they taking me out and they got me in

440
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 6: the black car and we're going to the club where

441
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 6: the shooting happened. But they're not telling me exactly what happened.

442
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 6: They want me to Rea retream lines. So they're saying,

443
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 6: you was here and Puffy was here. So I'm like,

444
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 6: I was here, Puffy was then, So you know, I'm

445
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 6: like going through it. But all this time, for the

446
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 6: three days they took me out, I'm getting blimpies, getting blimpies,

447
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 6: you know, because in jail the food is horrible. So

448
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm thirsty. You know, I'm eating

449
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 6: my butt off, right, you know. They take me back

450
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 6: up to Rikers Island. I think a week later. They

451
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 6: come to me and my attorney says, TK, they want

452
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 6: to know if you're gonna help them with the grand jury.

453
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Speaker 2: And I said, oh, is not the club that night?

454
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Speaker 1: No, they wanted to be to lie.

455
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they wanted you to put yourself in

456
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Speaker 2: the club.

457
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they want to put myself in the club because

458
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 6: that's how bad they wanted Puffy.

459
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Speaker 1: Damn.

460
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they want him, that bad dog. And I said, nah,

461
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 6: I'm good. They was mad as hell.

462
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: Yo.

463
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Speaker 6: I said, now I'm good. And I wind up getting

464
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Speaker 6: that four to six off the table. I got five

465
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Speaker 6: years probation and here I am a successful business stand up.

466
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Speaker 2: Did you ever have that conversation with Puffin told tell

467
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Speaker 2: Puff what they were trying to do.

468
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Speaker 1: And now, no, we never, we never had that discussion.

469
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Speaker 1: We nevers.

470
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Speaker 5: You might have stopp Puffs, Rain and Taram TK if

471
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Speaker 5: you'd have said something back then.

472
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Speaker 1: No, but I wasn't there. It would have been alive.

473
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Speaker 4: They put him in jail.

474
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, always that type of situation.

475
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree puffa. Yeah, but puff is

476
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 6: going through what he's supposed to go through, because that

477
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 6: makes sense. See, in life, you get so many chances

478
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 6: to do right. And because I've been there, you have

479
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 6: so many chances to do right. If you don't do right,

480
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 6: the universe has a way of humbling you.

481
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Speaker 4: I agree with that.

482
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Speaker 6: The universe will humble you dog more than you mentioned

483
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 6: because as you you know, we're all successful, right. You

484
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 6: get up certain days, got your chest out a little

485
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 6: bit more. Some days, you know, you treat some people

486
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 6: a little wrong. You know, sometimes you know just the

487
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 6: way it is right. But you gotta take that moment

488
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 6: to say to yourself, yo, I'm blessed. That's not that's

489
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 6: not Let's not push this envelope because God can really

490
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 6: take this away from you. And if you keep treating

491
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 6: people bad, you keep doing violent things to women, you

492
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 6: keep being disrespectful. Now, don't get me wrong, you can

493
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 6: do this maybe one year, maybe a week, right, and

494
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 6: then get your life together. But if you have a

495
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 6: track record for years and you didn't figure it out,

496
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 6: all the universe or make you pay. And when that

497
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 6: situation happened to me with puff, what hurt me? Well,

498
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 6: we didn't have social media then. But what hurt me

499
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 6: my mom found out Cause when I was doing crime before,

500
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 6: we didn't have social media, no one knew about your business.

501
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 6: You could have shot somebody, right, but no one knows

502
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 6: what you did a week ago. So now this hit

503
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 6: the news. Now, the same people who love you and

504
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 6: respect you, when you get in trouble, they're embarrassed because

505
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 6: they whole career they talk about how amazing you are,

506
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 6: how blah blah blah, and when you hurt them, it's

507
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: a blow. And my mother didn't go to church sholl

508
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 6: for like six months. You stop going to the same

509
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 6: place to get her hear about it. Yeah, she ain'tanna

510
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 6: hear about you. So I explained to hers that ma,

511
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 6: do not be embarrassed. As he raised me, right, I said,

512
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 6: you raised me right. You know, so someone says to you,

513
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 6: just say, you know, he's his own man. That was

514
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 6: his choices, and all those experiences made me who I

515
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 6: am today, right sixty something years old. I'm humble, I'm

516
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 6: respectful of life, and to still doing what I'm doing

517
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 6: at my age is just in a total gift in shape,

518
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 6: stay in the doctor's office, strong shoulders, and senior citizen.

519
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Speaker 1: And you know you are considered the senior citizens. I

520
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Speaker 1: am a senior sixty five.

521
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Speaker 6: He started, he started at fifty five. You get your

522
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 6: ARP card at fifty five, you know, you know. And

523
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 6: now I'm president of the Homeowners Association. You know I

524
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 6: got Medicare AMB plus my private insurance. And that's why

525
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 6: I tell the young men to start stepping their game up,

526
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 6: because even though I'm in my six I still can

527
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 6: pull your girl. And they said, TK, what do you mean.

528
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 6: I said, because I could put your woman on my insurance.

529
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 6: I said, y'all out here dating women. She got a

530
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 6: tooth missing. You know, so y'all hear dating women you

531
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Speaker 6: only got You know, I'm not against surgery, that's what

532
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 6: you want to do. But if you can't get your

533
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 6: if you're gonna get your girl the butt or she

534
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 6: get a button and you can't give it an extra

535
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 6: few dollars to have the five to match the butt.

536
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Speaker 1: It's not a relationship.

537
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Speaker 5: Insurance is important because a lot of these women page

538
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: balance be off, yes, be having that little yehishy older.

539
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they can't even get to the doctor.

540
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Speaker 1: They can't get to the doctor. Yeah. So that's the

541
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: where I come in. You know, I'll put them on

542
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: my insurance.

543
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 5: You don't want to ask you about you brought up

544
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: puff and I just was thinking about, like a lot

545
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 5: of people from your era and people that you worked with.

546
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: When when when I first met TK was when I was.

547
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: Working with Wendy will Yes, yes, and you was hosting

548
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 5: the It was she had a toy, it was.

549
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: You.

550
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: And what's the young man's name that got caught with

551
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: the trans Bobby Valentino, Boy Valentina.

552
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 5: All right, But so when you when you see the situation,

553
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: when you see how things like Wendy turned out, like,

554
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 5: what do you think.

555
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 6: Isn't that amazing the consequences of your choices. See, everything

556
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 6: is about the consequences of your choices. Some people only

557
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: think I try to teach people not to think about tomorrow.

558
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 6: I teach people to think about ten, fifteen, twenty years

559
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 6: from now. You have to think that far in advance.

560
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 6: All great people think that far in advance. What I

561
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 6: mean by that, that's use football as analogy. Joe my

562
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 6: time to Tom Brady when they played games. What makes

563
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 6: them great championships? We're looking at the field. Most average

564
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 6: quarterbacks only look six yards with ever, but Joe Montanna,

565
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 6: Tom Brady, the whole stadium is there feel and gives.

566
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 6: I've always tell people when I read this, saw this

567
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 6: interview Joe Montana in the eighties playing against It was

568
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 6: San Francisco playing against Dallas and they was losing. This

569
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 6: on the first time San Francisco beat Dallas NFC championship

570
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 6: up and in the other Joe Montana said, hey, guys,

571
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 6: you see John Candy up in the stands, like he

572
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 6: was so comfortable that he wasn't caring about what was

573
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 6: going to happen. He had saw John Candy and John

574
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 6: Kyne was big back in the eighties. He had, so

575
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 6: John Kane in the stands and that's the conversation he

576
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: was happening having with his team and great athletes.

577
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: Great people see the future.

578
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 6: They don't think about, Like, my life is planned for

579
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 6: the next twenty five years. I know exactly what I'm doing,

580
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 6: you know, And that's just something that keeps me motivated.

581
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 6: I know one I'm wearing on this particular day. That's

582
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 6: how far advanced I think. And that's what people have

583
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 6: to start think about. Some people don't think they're.

584
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Going to die.

585
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 6: Some people don't want to get insurance, some people don't

586
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 6: want to work out. And all the young people today

587
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: who are drinking alcohol all the time, you know what

588
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 6: they're not thinking about the consequences of the drinking, the

589
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 6: consequences of drinking years down the line.

590
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: What is going to do to your body? And nobody cares.

591
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 6: And I just want everybody to have a long life

592
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 6: because the thing that I understand about this world is,

593
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 6: and it's my understanding with the universe, is as long

594
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 6: as I live long enough on this planet, I'm going

595
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 6: to get everything that this universe has to give me.

596
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: I will get everything I want. I would get everything

597
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 6: I want.

598
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about faith and Steve and

599
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: a too, they were going back and forth about Oja

600
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: being mentioned that the BT.

601
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 6: Was yes, and I am I can explain that Faizon

602
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 6: has his opinion, Steven has a spiritual and what I

603
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 6: want to tell African American and Spanish whoever are really

604
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 6: rocking with black people. We know O J killed the bitch, right,

605
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 6: Let's just do this like it's facts. Yeah, but let's

606
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: watch where I'm going. You know, we know you killed

607
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: the bit, but OJ's family. You know you're still buy

608
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: them obile for dinner. You know, but you hide the knives. Jesus,

609
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 6: you hide the knives.

610
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: You know.

611
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: Faise on My Man phase on it said the exact

612
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 6: way to say Stephen A. Smith, my man, Shay Shane.

613
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 6: I think men of power. I moved differently, you know quite.

614
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: I think I'm older than those guys. When you're when

615
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 6: you're black, are really black. I'm not saying they're not black.

616
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 6: Ones is you have a duty to protect your people,

617
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 6: and when people come there and you start talking crazy,

618
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 6: you got to say, you know what, not on this show.

619
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Speaker 6: We're not going to We're not going to do that

620
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 6: on this show because we move a certain way on

621
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 6: this show. That's my definition of a man that you

622
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 6: hold everybody that comes on your show accountable. When you're

623
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 6: talking about your culture and your community. It's very important

624
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 6: because that's something that we don't do. You know, even

625
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 6: though we might know that person is wrong, but in

626
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 6: front of the world, you got to protect your people,

627
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 6: and that's what we are. But in front we have to cook.

628
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Speaker 1: That's what other races do. And when you think about

629
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: other races.

630
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 6: See the reason why black men are considering no good

631
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 6: just baby daddy is because African American women talk to

632
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 6: the world about how bad we are. But you don't

633
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 6: know nothing about the Mexican man. You don't know nothing

634
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 6: about the Indian India. Right, they don't talk about there

635
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 6: and what I've learned their life, they're just as bad

636
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 6: as we are.

637
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: I see what you're saying, because to that point, we

638
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: do we that does happen to us.

639
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 5: But black men do that. The black women historically bitches

640
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: whole right right right right, women don't listen.

641
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: Right right.

642
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 6: We all talk about each other. And as a start, now,

643
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 6: when I'm on stage, I use the word B I,

644
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: T C H. I use profanity. The reason why I

645
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 6: do that because I want to get my porn across.

646
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 6: But if he knows when I'm on your shild, don't

647
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 6: use profanity. I don't curse in front of my children.

648
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 6: My profanity is strictly for entertainment purposes.

649
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: I mean, even what you said about about Nicole Brown Simpson,

650
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 5: that was it was a joke.

651
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 6: Yes, and let's make sure I'm glad you said that. Listen, people,

652
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 6: that was a joke. Do not come after me talking

653
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 6: about Oh my god. He insisitive. He tells yo, I

654
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 6: don't want that problem. And I hope they don't cut

655
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 6: that part out, you know what I'm saying, because you

656
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 6: know how the world is, right, they'll just use that

657
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 6: part and everything else we'll have a problem.

658
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you always said it's hard to find

659
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: good friends.

660
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Speaker 6: Man. Yeah, I think that's the tough thing to do.

661
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 6: You know, Charlamagne, we live in the world of habitual liars,

662
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: in fact, habitual liars, and we all want to do

663
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: good because of our experience in life. And you meet

664
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 6: someone and you feel something for them, you want to

665
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 6: get that person a shot. They just caught you at

666
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 6: the right time, right, they caught you at the right time,

667
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: and you're like, I'm gonna get this person a shot,

668
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 6: but you don't see it coming. So there's two lessons

669
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 6: in this journey, right, Two lessons is once you find

670
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: out that person's a bitual liar, it teaches you to

671
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: keep your guard up for the rest of your life

672
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 6: and you're only gonna get played once, not just when

673
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 6: that person teaches you to be that way with everybody,

674
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 6: because it shows you that everybody has the ability to

675
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 6: get you. Everybody female, dude, they got to bed. I'm

676
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 6: not talking to be robbery. Talk about your time, talk

677
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 6: about relationships and talking about finance. Business like people go

678
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: into business with people because people don't take the time

679
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 6: to get to know person's character, find out where they live.

680
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 6: Every time somebody want to do business with me, I said.

681
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: Yo yo yo yo, Wait wait, wait, let's get to

682
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: know each other first. But when people hear something good,

683
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: they're like yo, exchange numbers, do X, Y and Z.

684
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: People not reading the contracts, people exchanging information ba.

685
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Now you can't find.

686
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 6: Them because they disappeared and people have to take their

687
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 6: time to get the others going through DC and the

688
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 6: guy saw me and walking one way, he said, yo,

689
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: I got a business opportunity, said why.

690
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: You want to do business with me?

691
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 6: So I don't know you? I said, no disrespect, I said,

692
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 6: I don't know you so why would you want to

693
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: do business with me? Why would I want to do

694
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: business with you. I have never met your mother. I

695
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 6: don't know where you are. I don't And that's my point.

696
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 6: We have to stop that. We have to really get

697
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 6: into finding how a person moves and and life teaches

698
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 6: you little things about person. A person say the day

699
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: successful you got to peep out their hands, what kind

700
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 6: of sneakers they got on? Are they a fast talker?

701
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 6: Because some people in they are fast talker and run

702
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 6: a lot of gang. You say, oh, okay, because I

703
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 6: teach people who roll with me.

704
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: What do you mean when you said what they got on?

705
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: Because when I was growing up, my daddy would point

706
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: to these white men in my town, monks corner, and

707
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 5: they would look regular as hell, and he'd be like,

708
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: that's the richest man in corner. I ain't wear none

709
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: of his money. But watch what I'm about to tell you.

710
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 5: You could wear something simple, but you know it's quality.

711
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 6: M See when I'm in London and me and my

712
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 6: daughter we went to go see the Mona.

713
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Lisa and.

714
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: Scott just regular T shirt jeans. It was kind of big,

715
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 6: but you paid attention to detail. He had the cuff

716
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 6: turned up right on the sneaker, I mean on his jeans, and.

717
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: It was findy.

718
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: But when you know, you know, yeah.

719
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Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying. We as you get older,

720
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 6: you understand, Like see, in your twenties, thirties and forties,

721
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 6: you think people care. In your fifties and sixties, you

722
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: realize nobody gave a fuck. Nobody gave a good job, right,

723
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: no one gave a fuck. You know, I drove everything

724
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 6: from a Bentley to a mini van.

725
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Nobody cares for real, nobody cares. It feels

726
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: good for you.

727
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: Nobody gives it. Damn nobody going when you die, nobody gonna.

728
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Be like he drove a bit right, Nobody cares.

729
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 6: He wore f indy every day, Charlamagne, nobody cares, you know.

730
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 6: And when you think about us as well, we all

731
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 6: came up. We wore sneakers and shurees till the hole

732
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 6: came in the bottom. Remember the back in the day,

733
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 6: your sock be out, and all of us here together

734
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 6: probably got three thousand sneakers.

735
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: Easy, and don't wear none of them.

736
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Don't wear none of them.

737
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: You are not lying. So as soon as it.

738
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Gets a little dirty, don't get another pair.

739
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 5: Isn't that something they climb because I wear the thing

740
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: cloth that all the time.

741
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: Smart, I don't nobody cares. As long as you got

742
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: a fresh underwear.

743
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he does that.

744
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: You think that same teacher tomorrow.

745
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Okay, But long as this underwear game is, I just

746
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: like it.

747
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: When I get comfortable, I'm comfortable.

748
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Listen to me.

749
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: I watch you guys all the time, like like my brothers,

750
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 6: and I see how comfortable you are.

751
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: And the only thing I can say about that, long

752
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: as you wash it, you.

753
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: Don't watch it tomorrow.

754
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 6: As long as you watch a little wood light, and

755
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 6: everything don't lose color, you know, and you always smell good,

756
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 6: and you keep your nuts fresh. Lot of a lot

757
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 6: of guys, the game is important that you that you

758
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 6: stay fresh, you know what I'm saying. Like a lot

759
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 6: of them, A lot of men don't understand that. Like

760
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 6: you got to when you roll up on women, especially.

761
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: You gotta smell amazing, right.

762
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 6: You got to make sure everything about you is just

763
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 6: something because women like that. The young men today are

764
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 6: so I just don't think men today like women. I

765
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 6: think that you know, they don't want to take them out.

766
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 6: They don't want to give them flowers. They like, Yo,

767
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 6: she could do that herself. I'm with and you know,

768
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 6: I had a conversation with the dude to Harlem. He said,

769
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 6: you ain't got to do that. You know, you ain't

770
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 6: got to do nothing for them. You can still, I say.

771
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: Yo, what what?

772
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 6: Who raised you? Just spect what I'm saying. And to

773
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 6: the young men who are listening, it's not about about money.

774
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 6: But you gotta have accomplishments, and you gotta have a

775
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 6: few dollars because either you're gonna pay directly or indirectly. Now,

776
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 6: some women got to put it right in their hand,

777
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 6: you know kind of women those are. And some women

778
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 6: you're gonna spend indirectly a movie, a dinner and then

779
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 6: be man enough. See, everything is not about a purpose, right.

780
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 6: Just because you're taking a woman out so mean you

781
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 6: have to end up in bed.

782
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: It's not about that. Sometimes a girl is best to

783
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: be a friend.

784
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: Yes, all my best relationships are home.

785
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 6: Man, And you gotta think about that. Because this woman

786
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 6: that you turned out to be your friend, she grows

787
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 6: to be a producer, business person down the line. And

788
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: because you're cool, that's your opportunity. A lot of men

789
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: don't think that way. Guys start thinking that way. You

790
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 6: ain't got to hit it just because you bought us something,

791
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 6: don't mean you gotta be mean to. Like I saw,

792
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 6: I heard them some guy asks a girl for a

793
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 6: phone number and he killed her because she didn't give

794
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: it to him.

795
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying, Like, he didn't even

796
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: seemed like.

797
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: He was tough, but man, he was a little skinny dude.

798
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 6: When I'm quite sure for the rest of his life,

799
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 6: while he's in prison, he will regret what he did

800
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 6: because I know they wailing on his ass.

801
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: Oh man, he's a party.

802
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, they will know his ass. Oh my god.

803
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: And you young guys, y'all think you're tough, but in jail,

804
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 6: ain't no guns. Ain't no guns. Brother, you you're gonna

805
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 6: really see how the people you never see on the

806
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: street that's super super tough, and people on the street

807
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 6: that you don't see on the street who's super super crazy,

808
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 6: and they find out you did something foul.

809
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: And they plotting on you soon as you come through.

810
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 6: So that's why some people go to protective custody when

811
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 6: they know because they know they come out in general population.

812
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: You've done yones right, You're done?

813
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 5: So Yeah, TK Kirkling man, go check him out, catch

814
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Speaker 5: me if you can. World Tour tickets available right now

815
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816
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Speaker 5: New Jersey this weekend at the Stress Factory.

817
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818
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Speaker 4: What's the number?

819
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: The number?

820
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta get the number. We gotta give them number.

821
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Speaker 4: On hold on stress Factory. Can't they just go to

822
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Speaker 4: the website.

823
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they get the website. You know I showed them

824
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Speaker 6: my age, didn't I. Yeah, you just go to stress

825
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826
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828
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Speaker 6: Kirkling home. I want everybody to come out to show

829
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Speaker 6: mad love to the one and only TK, and then

830
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Speaker 6: check me out next Friday, July eighteenth and Houston at

831
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835
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Speaker 2: Well, it's the Breakfast Clubs TK Kirkland, mister.

836
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Speaker 4: Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast club