1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Warre. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Ready, you will be amazed by the wizard of Weird. 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: This is Strange Thing. I am Joshua by Warren, and 13 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: each week on this show I'll be bringing you brand 14 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: new my blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you 15 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: can do at home and a lot more on this 16 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: edition of the show, Create a Psychic Experiment Kit for pennies. 17 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: This is the final installment in my recent series about 18 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: how you can use common household items, things that you 19 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: probably have on hand or certainly can obtain for cheap, 20 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: in order to create paranormal investigation tools. And this can 21 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: be if you are a hobbyist or if just something 22 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: spontaneously happens at your house and you have to scramble 23 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: to document it. It is based upon the book that 24 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: I wrote years ago called poor Man's Paranormal, a manual 25 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: on using household items to document ghosts, UFOs, cryptids and 26 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: psychic activity. Right now it has been called the Paranormal mcguiver. Well, 27 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: in some of my recent shows, I've already covered the others. 28 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: I told you how to create items that can document 29 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: help you document ghosts and UFOs and cryptids, and so 30 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: now we're going to finish the series with yes psychic 31 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: phenomena and ESP. Here we go. Psychic activity or ESP, 32 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: that is extrasensory perception exemplifies how humans can sense or 33 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: interact with energies not understood by mainstream scientists. Now, everything 34 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: covered in the previous sections on ghosts, UFOs, and cryptids 35 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: can be helpful and examining psychic claims. However, these simple 36 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: tips can help you both explore and test someone, maybe 37 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: even yourself for ESP. First, one of my favorites, the 38 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: energy will. One of the most fascinating psychic phenomena is 39 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: telekinesis or TK, the ability to control a physical object 40 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: using nothing but direct thought. Alone. Think of how the 41 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: jedis move things around in Star Wars. Well, the energy 42 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: will is one of the best ways to test and 43 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: even develop such possible skills. Here's all you have to do. 44 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: Take a chunk of foam or an eraser or some 45 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: similar substance, and just push a straight pin or needle 46 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: through it. All you need is for this needle to 47 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: stand up straight on its own with the sharp point 48 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: at the top. And next, take a square of lightweight 49 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: paper that is approximately fourign by four inches. And let 50 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: me pause for those of you who are listening in 51 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: other countries, let's see what four inches is to centimeters 52 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: it is I don't do not memorize conversions. It looks 53 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: like it's going to be ten centimeters by ten centimeters. 54 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: So you have a square of paper that's four inches 55 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: by four inches or ten centimeters by ten centimeters, and 56 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: you fold it diagonally one way, and then you unfold it, 57 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: and then you fold it diagonally the other way, and 58 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: then you unfold it, and now you'll have what looks 59 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: like a small paper pyramid. You just set this paper 60 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: pyramid on top of the needle so that its inner 61 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: apex rests on the sharp tip. And so now you 62 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: have this paper pyramid that can spin around freely, sort 63 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: of like a pin. Well, I guess, so next, what 64 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: you want to do is place your hands on either 65 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: side of the needle and focus on making it spin 66 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: in the beginning direction does not matter. Eventually you'll want 67 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 2: to try to force it clockwise or counterclockwise, and after 68 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: much practice, an advanced user may even be able to 69 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: make it spin under a glass. Now there is no 70 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: hard and fast rule about how you should place your hands. 71 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: You might just put your hands on each side with 72 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: the palms open and facing the energy will Or you 73 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: might try putting the hands in a similar position where 74 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: one hand has the palm facing and then the other 75 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: hand has the back of a hand facing. You might 76 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: put one hand above the wheel. Try different configurations, but 77 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is you'd want to rule out wind 78 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: or your breath or something blowing it around. You might 79 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: even want to put some type of a well like 80 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: a mask on, or you might want to again graduate 81 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: to shielding it under some kind of a glass. It 82 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But the more you practic this with it, 83 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: the more you'll find out what may work for you. 84 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: And I actually got to the point one time years 85 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: ago where I was practicing this every day and I 86 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: actually could get this to spin under a glass, and 87 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: I even have video footage of that I posted somewhere 88 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: on YouTube. So the energy will is a very simple device, 89 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: and it can be used to test someone who claims 90 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: to possess telekinesis, or to train yourself to develop telekinetic 91 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: skills over time. And keep in mind that if you 92 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: can just maybe put your hands around it and it 93 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: might start naturally moving as the energy naturally flows around 94 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: your body. But of course the next big step, the 95 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: holy Grail, is trying to control that energy flow so 96 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: that you can manipulate the object. Next, we have the pendulum. Now, 97 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: if you hold a string in your hand with a 98 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: small weight on the end, just like a phishing sinker, 99 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: you have a basic pendulum. And you can even get 100 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: results by taking off a common necklace and holding one 101 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: end with a pendant swinging at the bottom. And this 102 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: can be used to test psychic knowledge now regardless of 103 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: your dominant hand. Actually I guess it does. It might 104 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: be helpful if you use your dominant hand in the beginning. 105 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: But what you want to do is you rest your 106 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: elbow on a table and you hold the top of 107 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: your pendulum, and it doesn't really matter how you hold it. 108 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: I have a tendency to hold it with my thumb 109 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: and index and middle finger just the top of the 110 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: pendulum cord. But just make sure the bottom of the 111 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: pendulum does not touch the table and can swing freely. 112 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: Calm yourself until it is still, and once still, just 113 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: sit there and in vision it swinging clockwise. In a 114 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: few moments, it will swing clockwise. Now calm yourself again 115 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: and have it go still, and now visualize it swinging 116 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: count clockwise and it will swing counterclockwise. Do this again, 117 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: envisioning it swinging back and forth, and then again envision 118 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: it swinging side to side, and you will see that 119 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: what you envision makes the pendulum swing in a certain way. 120 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: This is a known scientific phenomenon called automatism, and it 121 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: is an understood process by which that which you envision 122 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: affects microscopic impulses in your muscles to affect the world 123 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: around you. So, even though you may not realize you're 124 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: intentionally doing this, you are intentionally doing this subconsciously. So 125 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: once you've done that basic exercise to get the feeling 126 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: for the pendulum. You want to pick the two motions 127 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: that were easiest for you. Was it clockwise versus counterclockwise 128 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: or was it back and forth or was it side 129 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: to side. Pick one of those that you liked. Let's 130 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: say you pick clockwise versus counterclockwise. Well, then you should 131 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: visualize it swinging clockwise and then you say out loud 132 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: to the pendulum this means yes. And then you let 133 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: it spin that way. And then you calm yourself, and 134 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: then you make it swing counterclockwise and you say this 135 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: means no, and you let it swing that way for 136 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: a while. Well, you have now programmed your pendulum. That 137 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: is how you program a pendulum. It doesn't matter what 138 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: motion you pick. You must establish this represents yes, this 139 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: represents no. Now, a programmed pendulum is used to divine 140 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: for knowledge, you can sit and ask the pendulum questions, 141 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: judging a yes or no response based on how it swings. 142 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: You can test and perfect the ability by having someone 143 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: flip a coin and then you can ask your pendulum 144 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: if it's heads or tell. But if you find a 145 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: technique works amazingly well for you or someone else, experiment 146 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: with using it to divine any knowledge you want. I mean, 147 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: if you can get answers to YESTERDA no questions, you 148 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: can use that to work your way to just about 149 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: anything you want to know. And that's a very easy 150 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: way to do it. Next, we have dowsing rods. Dowsing 151 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: rods are used much like the pendulum. They are created 152 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: to extract information about ethereal matters, and though they have 153 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: become most popular as detectors of underground substances like water 154 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: or oil, they can be programmed just like the pendulum 155 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: for psychic experiments of any kind. It's easy to make 156 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: dowsing rods. You simply need a metal wire coahangar with pliers, 157 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: and you cut the hanger just below the hook on 158 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: either side, and you can throw the hook away you 159 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: won't need it, And then make a single cut in 160 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: the middle of the bottom wire, and that will give 161 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: you two angled sections of wire. You bend each of 162 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: them out into l shapes, and these are your two 163 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: dowsing rods. The short end is your handles. Okay, so 164 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: you want to loosely hold those short ends of each 165 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: dowsing rod in your hands like guns, and you hold 166 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: your hands about one inch apart and level right in 167 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: front of you, and you watch how they swing. And 168 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: when we come back, I'm going to tell you what 169 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: else you need to do with the dowsing rods, and 170 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: then we're going to get into some very simple things 171 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: you can do if you don't want to build anything, 172 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: just with playing cards, coins and dice. 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Warren, beaming into your 221 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: worm Whole brand from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada. 222 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: We're every day is Golden and every night is silver. 223 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Agiatacto Zume and back to dowsing rods. They're very simple 224 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: to make. You get that coahangar. You cut those sections 225 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: out and again you want to hold each one of 226 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: these L shaped wires by the short part, just like 227 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: you're holding guns. But you hold your hands out in 228 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: front of you about an inch apart and you hold 229 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: it level, so those long wires are parallel to the 230 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: ground and then you just watch how they swing. And 231 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: just like with the pendulum, you have to program them 232 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: by asking them to swing together or apart. And once 233 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: you can consciously make them swing either together or apart, 234 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: tell them to swing together to indicate one thing and 235 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: to part to indicate another. So for example, maybe if 236 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: they swing together that means yes, and if they swing 237 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,239 Speaker 2: part that means no. Or you can be more specific. 238 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: You can say I want you to swing together when 239 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: there is water below me, and stay apart when there 240 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: is no water below me. There is no limit on 241 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: how this technique can be used. In fact, both the 242 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: pendulum and dowsing rod methods can be used over maps 243 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: instead of the actual land to experimentally obtain information about 244 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: geographic terrains. Yes, you don't even have to be on location. 245 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: A lot of people hire folks. I've heard take out 246 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: a map successful dowsers and defined where oil or gold 247 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: may be. And I know in Vietnam they certainly use 248 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: dowsers to try to find land mines and underground tunnels 249 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: where the enemy was hiding and that sort of thing. 250 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: This next section here is playing cards, coins and dice. 251 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: Perhaps the oldest and simplest way of ten and exploring 252 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: psychic activity is by way of coins and cards. Since 253 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: these are almost always nearby, never forget to implement them. 254 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Anything that has been used in gambling is a good 255 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: tool for testing ESP. When flipping a coin, there is 256 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: generally a fifty to fifty chance of the outcome, and 257 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: this can be used to determine someone's clairvoyance easily. It 258 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: can even be more effectively done using a dye or 259 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: a pair of dice. Die are actually better since the 260 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: die may be more I guess dice are actually better 261 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: since the die or the dice may be more balanced 262 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: and has six possible outcomes. So if you use dice, 263 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: put them in a plastic cup with an identical cup 264 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: on top and shake them together between the two cups 265 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: so that you're not directly touching them before spilling them 266 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: on the table. Using those cups ensures the shaker's hands 267 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: never come into contact with the die and cannot possibly 268 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: influence the outcome. Now, the famous ESP cards developed by 269 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: the Ryan Research Center feature symbols like a star, wavy lines, square, etc. 270 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: And you can make your own symbol cards or just 271 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: use playing cards. When using standard playing cards, start by 272 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: asking the test subject to guess red or black, and 273 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: then you can get more specific. Next move on to 274 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: the suit, finally to the number. All of these psychic 275 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: testers can be utilized in almost any way, whether gaining 276 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: information about something that should not be conventionally known or 277 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: communicating with another intelligence. These are important tools. The mind, 278 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 2: body and environment relationship of ESP is the glue that 279 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: binds all paranormal activity together. And here's one last thing 280 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: now that I've given you tips over these podcasts on 281 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: how to create a kit to investigate ghosts or UFOs 282 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: or cryptids. Though everyone needs a starting point, we must 283 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: caution against prematurely defining and categorizing a particular paranormal phenomenon. 284 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: Just because we designate some activity is related to ghosts 285 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: or UFOs or cryptids, that does not mean that they 286 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: are all separated. They're actually intimately connected in some way. 287 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: And so the information I've given you should be used 288 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: to help you document anything that is currently not properly 289 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: explained by mainstream scientists. So within these simple, accessible tools 290 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: and techniques, you should have all you need to start 291 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: leading you down the path to truths, whatever it may be, 292 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: and to ensure you're at your best. I suggest you 293 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: practice everything in advance, make a project of it, gather 294 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: your friends one evening, make a party. Kids love this. 295 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: It's a great way to learn about science. But do 296 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: it now so that you will be already kind of 297 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: aware of how this functions, and you'll have that knowledge 298 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: on hand instantly when you need it the most. And 299 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, regardless of what you choose to study, patience 300 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: is a virtue. Once your tools are in place, be observant, 301 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: quiet and relaxed, Be reserved, and just see what happens 302 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: around you. And of course, if you need help with 303 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: any of those projects, you can always just visit my website. 304 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: If you'd like to get a copy of The poor 305 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: Man's Paranormal, it's in my Curiosity Shop at Joshua Pwarren 306 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: dot com. It comes with a number of other PDFs 307 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: that you can instantly download for cheap. But remember what 308 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: I told you. One of the most important tools to 309 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: possess altogether as a compass for both determining direction and 310 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: detecting electrical disturbances. And remember that all the high tech 311 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: resources big budget investigators have basically document the very same 312 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: thing things that you can document with these household items. 313 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin proved to his own satisfaction that lightning is 314 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: an electrostatic power using a kite, a key, a glass jar, 315 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: and some metal foil. Okay, always remember that he also 316 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 2: discovered the Gulf Stream by dipping bottles of Madeira wine 317 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: that he had drank at various intervals into the ocean 318 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: water as he was crossing the Atlantic. So profound information 319 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: can and will be gleaned by what you cobble together 320 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: in your own home today, so be sure to remember that. 321 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: So that's it. Here endeth the lesson, and I hope 322 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: that all of those things are helpful in one way 323 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: or another. You know, it's funny. For years, my mother 324 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: and father, Danny and Peggy Warren, were big land developers 325 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: in western North Carolina, And you know, I've interviewed both 326 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: of them on this show. And my mom has had 327 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: a lot of psychic experiences throughout her life. My dad 328 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: has always been open to it, but he's never really 329 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: been an enthusiast, and he just never knew what to 330 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: think of it. But I tell you one thing, when 331 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: money was on the line as land developers and they 332 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: were trying to figure out where to drill a well. 333 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: My dad every time he would go out and he 334 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: would get he'd had his set at dowsing rods, and 335 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: he would take those dowsing rods out and he would 336 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: find exactly where the water was. And you'd have these 337 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 2: I guess they call them Martesian wells that you know 338 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: they dig and all of a sudden, boom, the water 339 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: would just come squirting, jetting up into the sky. He 340 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: found those all the time using dowsing I don't know 341 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: how to explain that. And by the way, you know, 342 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: when you make those dowsing rods, you can just hold 343 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: those wire handles like I explained, Or if you want 344 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: them to swing more fluidly, you can take something like 345 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: a drinking straw and cut a little section off and 346 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: slip it over so it makes for like a plastic 347 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: covering between your hand and the wires so they swing 348 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: more fluidly. Or you can take a little piece of 349 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: PVC pipe and do the same thing any kind of tubing. 350 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: So those are tips for you to remember. I also 351 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: want to give some shout outs here to some people 352 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: who influenced me a lot when it came to me 353 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: understanding the reality of psychic phenomena. The first psychic I 354 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: really became friends with who impressed me was Angela fay Moore, 355 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: who lives in western North Carolina. I've talked about Angela 356 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: More a lot, and there were times where I was 357 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: growing up. She would go on investigations, she would come 358 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: to events and I would see people crying, and you know, 359 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: she was really impressing a lot of folks. And Angela, 360 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: she I'm sure would love to hear from you. She's 361 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: happy to psychic work, and I believe that she doesn't 362 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: even charge for it. I think she just takes donations. 363 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: Her website is Angela Fayemore dot com. Fay is spelled 364 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: with an e on the end, fa Ye Angela Faymore 365 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: dot com. Go look her up. And then when I 366 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: started getting into the TV business, I met Karen Reese, 367 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: and Karen Reese was profound because that we were working 368 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: together on this show while you've heard me talk about 369 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: it called Xops, and before the show even started, the 370 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: very first day I met her, let's see, Actually no, 371 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: that's not right. I worked on two shows with her. Anyway, 372 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. One of the shows I worked on 373 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: with her. The first day we got together and she 374 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: took out. Okay, there was a production person who came 375 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: up to her and said, I have a purse here, 376 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: Why can you tell me about it? And Karen Reese said, well, 377 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: this belonged to your mother. And she started telling this 378 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: lady all about her mother with all these details and 379 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: dates and names, and again the woman breaks down starts crying. 380 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: It was crazy. And Karen has helped people get LOTO numbers. Anyway. 381 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: Her website is karen rest dot com k a r 382 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: y n r e e c e k a r 383 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: y n That's how she spells Karen Karen reestot com. 384 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: The third person I want to tell you about is 385 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: Laura Lee. I also met on a TV show and 386 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: Laura Lee one time. Okay, I was sort of sequestered 387 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: with her in a room while we were waiting for 388 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: some production queue, and so she said, well, what would 389 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: you like to know? And I said, well, I had 390 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: a friend who recently died. What can you tell me 391 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: about that friend? And she started describing this man who 392 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: had recently died like you wouldn't believe that he had 393 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: a funny hat he used to wear all the time, 394 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: and he had a strange white beard but no mustache, 395 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: and he was a scientist, and she was just telling 396 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: me all about him, and it just blew me away. 397 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: Her website is Radio Medium Laura Lee l E. Radio 398 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: Medium Laura Lee. Check out one of those ladies if 399 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: you're interested and communicating with a psychic. 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He was one of my best friends, 430 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: and he died recently unexpectedly, at the age of forty seven. 431 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: We met in high school, Clyde A. Irwin High in Ashfield, 432 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: North Carolina, back in the early nineties. I was already 433 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: writing books as a teen and I needed a professional 434 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: level artist, and somehow I found out about this other kid, 435 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: a prodigy named Tim Peterson. Peterson is spelled p E 436 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: d e r s e n. He was tall and lanky, 437 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: with wild black hair, and his eyes were dark, but 438 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: they always had this comedic spark. He was always kind 439 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: of smirking at the world, and the first time I 440 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: saw him draw, I was astounded. The pictures that flowed 441 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: from the end of his pen looked like they were 442 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: being magically printed by a machine right in front of 443 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: my eyes. And it turns out he could do it all, 444 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: not just draw, but paint with various media. He was 445 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: also great at playing the guitar and the keys, but 446 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: he was especially on the cutting edge of computer graphics, 447 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: which was of great importance to me for book covers 448 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: and such. So over the years we worked together to 449 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: create covers for my early book Looks Like Speaking of 450 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Strange and Plausible Ghosts. In fact, we decided to collaborate 451 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: on a children's book called The Lonely Ameba. It was 452 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: kind of like a Doctor Seuss book. I wrote the 453 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: whole thing in rhyming verse, and he illustrated the whole 454 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: thing with watercolor. It was published in hardback and it 455 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: turned out fantastic, and we did book signings and fun 456 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: events together. When I wrote Haunted Ashville, I took the 457 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: photographs for the original cover and gave them to him, 458 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: and he created one of the most memorable ghost book 459 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: covers of all time in my opinion. Tim was originally 460 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: from Florida, so we did some little projects like a 461 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: book called Young Artists of Florida and then another rare 462 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: book called North Carolina UFOs, and the list just goes on. Well. 463 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: In high school, he and I, of course were always 464 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: hanging out, always getting into mischief. He had this insane 465 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: sense of humor, even crazier than mine, and the two 466 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: of us together pulled off some pretty elaborate pranks. And 467 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: in fact, we were so close in high school that 468 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: for our senior year, I wrote the theme and cover 469 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: description for the yearbook and he created it with an airbrush, 470 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: this mystical vision. So we even created the darn graduation 471 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: yearbook together. As a matter of fact, it's kind of funny. 472 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: Reminds me that I think that I wrote that the 473 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: phrase on the cover of the yearbook should be the 474 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: dawning of a new perspective. And when they all came out, 475 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: there was I guess a miscommunication and it said the 476 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: dawning of a new prospective. So perspective is per and 477 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: prospective pro So that was kind of I don't know, 478 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: it was just a weird thing that I always think 479 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: of when it comes to that yearbook. But you know, 480 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: it worked out either way. So over the years, we 481 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: continued working together on countless projects. I have so many 482 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: memories of adventures with Tim that it's impossible to recall 483 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: them all. Well, I mean, right out of high school, 484 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: we traveled to New Orleans together to explore the weird culture, 485 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: and my mom told me she was worried, sick about 486 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: the two of us alone in New Orleans where we 487 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: knew no one and it was Marti Grop. We weren't 488 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: even drinking age. But trust me, nobody in New Orleans cared. 489 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: In fact, if you go back and listen to episode 490 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: twenty five of this podcast Strange Things, Episode twenty five 491 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: is called Our Weird Moon and My Encounter with Real Vampires. Well, 492 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: I told this story about me and Tim being in 493 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: New Orleans and getting into this real pickle with some 494 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: vampires down by the Mississippi River one night. And in 495 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: the episode, as I was telling the story, I claimed 496 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: that I had changed the name of my friend, but 497 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: actually I did not. I said his name was Tim, 498 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: and that was true. So after high school, Tim moved 499 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: to Atlanta for a while. I went down to visit him, 500 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: and you have all these memories, you know. I remember 501 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: one day we walked into this eclectic record store and 502 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: ran right into Taylor Hawkins, the drummer for Foo Fighters, 503 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: Dave Grohl's band, and he was super nice and we 504 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: chatted with him for a while. And Taylor Hawkins is 505 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: now no longer with us. He died in twenty twenty 506 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: two at age fifty. Well, Tim, he was always looking 507 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: for more adventure. He then he moved to New York 508 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: City for a while and then finally to Los Angeles, California. 509 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: And there, I mean he quickly became a very successful 510 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: person as a commercial artist in Los Angeles, I mean, 511 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: working for big firms, designing everything from billboards to candy 512 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: bar rappers to web campaigns. He was doing well and 513 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: he was making a lot of money. And sometimes I 514 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: would visit him in LA and we would go to 515 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: some pretty fancy places like Soho House, West Hollywood, and 516 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: I remember one night in twenty eighteen we went to 517 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: this nice bar where they filmed a part of the 518 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: movie ed Wood. That's one of my favorite films, ed 519 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: Would by Tim Burton. So you know, I just have 520 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: all these interesting memories of things that you know, we 521 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: experienced together. And when he was there in La I mean, 522 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: things were going well for quite a while for him. 523 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean, roommates and girlfriends would occasionally come and go, 524 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: but he never had kids, he never got married, and 525 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: he primarily lived alone. But Tim, he liked to go 526 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: out and have a good time, and he did that 527 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: a lot, and that eventually got out of control and 528 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: started to take a toll on his health. And I 529 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what happened to him at the least 530 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: at this point, but you know, he recently died again, 531 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: age forty seven. And of course that happens to a 532 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: lot of great artists with insatiable appetites who just want 533 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: to go out and have this grand life life experience. 534 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: But you know, there's nothing I can really say to 535 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: capture the true essence of the guy. I mean, even 536 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: though we were such friends, he was always sort of 537 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: a loner with an attitude. And of course a part 538 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 2: of me is very sad, but honestly, there's a greater 539 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 2: part of me that feels happy that he enjoyed such 540 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: a fun wild ride in this life and he didn't 541 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: have to grow old, because I do not think he 542 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 2: would have been very happy as an old man. So 543 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: God bless you, Tim, I love you. Thank you for 544 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: sharing your talent and your warmth and friendship. And I 545 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: can imagine that you will never be a ghost. 546 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 6: On this earth. 547 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: You're out there soaring through the cosmos right now like 548 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: some psychedelic superman, and I am sure that you will 549 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: paint the sky. You know. Hank Williams said, no matter 550 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: how I struggle and strive, I'll never get out of 551 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 2: this world alive. And my friend Bill Banner, who lived 552 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: to be an old man, always said, the thing that 553 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: sucks about living to be old is watching all of 554 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: your friends die. Ain't that the truth? You know? You've 555 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 2: probably heard this story that Harry Houdini told his wife 556 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 2: that he was going to give her this secret code 557 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: that only the two of them would know, and that 558 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: if he died before her and she wanted to test 559 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: out one of these psychics or medium mediums, that he 560 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: would pass along this code. And most people say that 561 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: she tried. She had seances and she met all these 562 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: psychics and stuff and that she never got the code. 563 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: But then there are other people who say no, no, no, 564 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: that's not true. She actually did get the code. In fact, 565 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 2: there was this psychic at the time named Arthur Ford, 566 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: and he has witnesses and documentation. He wrote a book 567 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: about this. He said that he was able to get 568 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: the code from Houdini on the other side after Houdini died, 569 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: and that he was able to get a meeting with 570 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: Houdini's wife and she confirmed that it was correct. The 571 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: message from the other side was quote rose a bell 572 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: answer tail pray answer look tail answer answer tail end quote. 573 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: Now that may not make a lot of sense, but 574 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: they said it was based on both sentimentality and an 575 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: old Vaudeville mind reading routine because roose Belt roose Belt 576 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: was the name of the song she sang in her 577 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: act when they first met, and her wedding band had 578 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: this inscription and said rose Belt. The other words correspond 579 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: to a secret spelling code used to pass information between 580 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 2: a magician and his assistant during a mentalism act, where 581 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: each word or word pair would equal a letter, so 582 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 2: like the word answer stood for the letter B or 583 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: answer answers stood for the little D letter V. Maybe 584 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: you get the picture. But anyway, so the second phrase 585 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: spelled out the word believe. So basically it was like 586 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: roosebel this word that was sacred enough for her to 587 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: have on her wedding ring, and then believe. So I 588 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 2: don't know what to believe. That was a long time ago, 589 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: and I don't think we'll ever know exactly what to believe. 590 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: But I have tried that with a number of my 591 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: friends who have passed on. You know, I've had older 592 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 2: folks who I assumed would pass on before me, and 593 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 2: I have established a code word with them, and so 594 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: far I have not had and it's been a different 595 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: code word for each person a case only I'm the 596 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: person know this. So far, nothing has conclusively been communicated 597 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: with me. But something happened to me recently. That is 598 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: the closest I've come to having one of my friends 599 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: who passed on give me the secret word. When we 600 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: come back, I will explain that, and then I'll tell 601 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: you about that story. And then I actually have kind 602 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: of a funny, weird story I'm going to share with you. 603 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on 604 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 605 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 2: I will be right back. 606 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: The Internet is an extraordinary resource that links our children 607 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: to a world of information, experiences, and ideas. It can 608 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: also expose them to risk. Teach your children the basic 609 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: safety rules of the virtual world. Our children are everything, 610 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: Do everything for them. 611 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 4: On the iHeartRadio and cost AM parl Podcast Network. 612 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 2: Listen anytime, any place. 613 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: Hi, this is Sandras Champlain. Ever wonder what happens when 614 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 3: we well? I'm going to make it easier for you 615 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: to understand. Join me for my show Shades of the Afterlife. 616 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 3: New shows come out every Friday, so I'll be looking 617 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: for you right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 618 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 3: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 619 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 620 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: Strange Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 621 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Lauren. 622 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: And when I in Puerto Rico, my best friend was 623 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 2: this lady named Margarita. We called her Itta and she 624 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: was She was a tough, fireball over woman. She was 625 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: a retired Navy officer. She could drink just about anybody 626 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 2: under the table. She had a boat and she would 627 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: take me and Barn out to these islands, and I 628 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: mean we would go off and have adventures and explore 629 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: UFOs and chwo pacabras and I mean all that kind 630 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: of stuff. She looked like the type of person like 631 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: she She was very healthy, and you just thought she 632 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: was going to live forever. And then when I moved 633 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 2: from Puerto Rico to Las Vegas, of course we kept 634 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: in touch. And a couple of years ago she told 635 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: me that she had pancreatic cancer. Now she was in 636 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 2: her sixties, and as you probably know, pancreatic cancer is 637 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 2: a tough thing to beat. So we started having you know, 638 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: that conversation like, well, if this is the end, thank 639 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: you for your friendship, et cetera. But I told her, 640 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 2: let's come up with a code word, you know, if 641 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: if you if you don't make it. And so I 642 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: came up with one word as a code word. We 643 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 2: agreed upon this just you know online, it's just direct messaging. 644 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 2: And so after she died, you know, I kept looking 645 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: for that word and it was it wasn't popping up. 646 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 2: And then just recently, I was sitting out back at 647 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 2: my house next to the swimming pool, and I was 648 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 2: I told Lauren that I had I had done this, 649 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, that I'd created this code word for Ida 650 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: and I had never received it. And I said, what 651 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: do you think it is? And Lauren said the word? 652 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, that's kind of chilling because 653 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 2: I'd be like, now that was that was a jarring thing. 654 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: And Lauren said, maybe this is how the word was 655 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 2: supposed to be, you know, communicated to you. And that 656 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: may be, but I still can't consider that conclusive proof 657 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: because Lauren also knew Ida, and she might have been 658 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: able to guess that word, even if it's subconscious. Also, 659 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: Lauren and I, you know, we've been together for a 660 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: long time and I think we have a lot of telepathy, 661 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: so she may have plucked it out of my head. 662 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: So I still can't say that's conclusive evidence. But that's 663 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: the closest I've come, and that actually, you know, I mean, 664 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 2: that made an impact on me. So maybe you should 665 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 2: try that out with some of your loved ones. You 666 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 2: never know who's going to die first. Just because you're 667 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: the younger one, that doesn't mean that something bad can't 668 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: happen to you. Try out the code word method and 669 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 2: just see what you come up with. It's a very 670 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: interesting project when when you know somebody close like that 671 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 2: and then they pass on. Uh, you know what, before 672 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: I tell you this kind of weird, funny story about 673 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: something that recently happened to me. Uh, let me, let 674 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: me read an email. I have an email I've had 675 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: on hold for a while from a guy named Mike, 676 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 2: and I read one of his emails before because he 677 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: had told me he'd had this like string of bad luck, 678 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: and then he downloaded one of the sigils from the 679 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 2: sigil lab dot com. Uh, it might have been the 680 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 2: money sigil, but we also have a money luck sigel 681 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 2: there that you can go and save. It's all free 682 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: at the sigil lab dot com. But anyway, he had 683 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 2: this like string of bad luck and then he got them. 684 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 2: He got the sigil, and the day he got the sigil, 685 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: his luck turned around. He said that you know, he 686 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 2: had he had had luggage that was missing from his 687 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 2: airplane flight and as soon as he got the sigil, boom, 688 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: they found the luggage intact, nothing missing. He'd been had 689 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: a situation with this house this new house that he 690 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 2: was trying to deal with, and it had been complicated 691 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: and all of it smoothed down, and he starts just, 692 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, writing me, telling me all this, and so 693 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: I read at some point one of his messages and 694 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: then then he wrote me this the other day and 695 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: he says, oh, also says, I hadn't realized it. Not 696 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 2: only did you decide to produce the lux sigitl the 697 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: day I needed it, but but you prepared the podcast 698 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: mentioning my experience the same week as my thirtieth wedding anniversary, 699 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: which actually kind of plays into the story. And he says, 700 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 2: if that's not proof that sigil's work, what a strange coincidence. 701 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for the wonderful anniversary gift. Forever listening. So 702 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 2: I know that as it totally makes sense out of 703 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 2: consecutive order here with some of the things that has 704 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: he's experienced. But what I just thought was interesting was that, 705 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, he he keeps telling me that all this 706 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 2: stuff is turned around since he's used that sigil. So 707 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 2: I hope that you'll go to the sigil lab dot 708 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: com and just save some sigil that catches your eye 709 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: and experiment with it yourself. He also mentioned this in 710 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: one of his emails, just as a side note, and 711 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I got back to him about this. 712 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 2: He said, I've never encountered a haunted object, he said, 713 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 2: but perhaps you need to ask permission before moving them, 714 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: like those who get permission from Robert the Doll before 715 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 2: taking a picture. I agree with that entirely, Mike. I've 716 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: gotten to the point now where I don't move just 717 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: about anything in my house that's got a history without 718 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 2: talking to it, asking some permission first. And I think 719 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: that's a good habit to get into. But thank you 720 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 2: for keeping me updated on your progress there, Mike. I 721 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Glad things continue to work out for you. 722 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: The force is flowing through you very well, my friend. 723 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 2: And so now here's the story that I don't know. 724 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes I just bring up up these almost sort of 725 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 2: random experiences that I've had here living in Las Vegas 726 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 2: that I call mental manna. And I was at the 727 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: I see recently I had to have some X rays 728 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 2: made of my lower back, and you know, it's one 729 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: of those things you get older and you get aches 730 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 2: and pains, and so so I go to the X 731 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: ray lab and they take me back. There are a 732 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: couple of nice ladies in charge. And I just laid 733 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: down on my back and I just had to pull 734 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: my pants down a little a little way so that, 735 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, like my lower back was was better exposed. 736 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 2: So they take the X ray and then I hear 737 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 2: one of the ladies go, that's weird. Now, let me 738 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 2: just tell you you might know this from experience. When 739 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: having any kind of a medical procedure done, you do 740 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: not want to hear somebody go hmm, that's weird, but 741 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 2: especially as soon as they've X rayed your pelvic section, 742 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 2: all right. And so she goes over and she goes 743 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: let me readjust something here, and then she goes back 744 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: and they take another X ray. Huh, I hear o A. 745 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 2: Now they're having a little conversation back in the X 746 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: ray booth like what is what is like? What is it? What? 747 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 2: What is happening? So then the lady the text she 748 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 2: comes back to me and she says, have you ever 749 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: have you ever had any like metal or inserted in 750 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: your body or any kind of you know, surgeries that 751 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: And I was like, I said, no, no, I have not. 752 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 2: I've never had any any surgery. I've never had a 753 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: major surgery in my whole life. The biggest surgery I've 754 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: ever had was having my wisdom teeth taken out. Now, look, 755 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 2: I've been put to sleep and had like upper gis 756 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: and lower gies and that kind of stuff, but I've 757 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 2: never had a major surgery. Knock on wood. I said, no, 758 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 2: there should be and she goes. I said, I said, 759 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 2: is there an alien implant here? Are you seeing alien implants? 760 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 2: Just tell me? And she goes, I'm not sure. I've 761 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 2: never seen anything like this before, Like, what is it? 762 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: And that's when they realize that as I'm laying there, 763 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 2: lying there, I am wearing what is called a guya beera. 764 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: This is my favorite style of shirt. If you've seen 765 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 2: pictures of me out there, you've probably seen me at 766 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: some point wearing a guyabera. It is produced by Latin 767 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: American cultures. There's they argue over whether it came from 768 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 2: Spain or Mexico or I think you know, the Puerto 769 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 2: Ricans like to take some clan. Anyway, the guya bera 770 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: is it's a short sleeve shirt and it's got four 771 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 2: pockets on the front. And I'm such a geek I 772 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 2: love to have pockets, like the more pockets, the merrier, 773 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 2: and so I'm always carrying stuff in my pockets. And 774 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 2: so in my lower right side pocket I had a 775 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 2: little zip lock baggy that was full of ant acids, 776 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: and so they I pulled it out and they start laughing, 777 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: and they showed me the picture the X ray and 778 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 2: it looked like I was a drug mule, that I 779 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: just had this big cluster of pills or oddly shaped 780 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 2: pills sort of stuffed in my gut. And of course 781 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: we're laughing about all that, and I thought, well, that'll 782 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: be an interesting X ray for, you know, for me 783 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 2: to talk about on the show. But it turns out 784 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 2: when all was done, I removed that and they finished 785 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 2: the X rays, they would not give me that X ray, 786 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 2: and I was like, ah, oh that's a bummer. So look, 787 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 2: if you ever have an X ray may and it's 788 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 2: got something weird like an alien implant and they don't 789 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 2: want to give it to you, take your cell phone 790 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: out and take a picture of it for yourself, because 791 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 2: that might be the proof that you're gonna need. All Right, 792 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 2: my friends, the clocks Goddess, take a deep breath, close 793 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 2: your eyes, if you can, here is the good Fortune tone. 794 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me 795 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: at Joshua P. Warren. Plus visit joshuapwarren dot com to 796 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 2: sign up for my free E newsletter to receive a 797 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 2: free instant gift, and check out the cool stuff in 798 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 2: the Curiosity Shop. 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