1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: going to be talking in the next hour. About an 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: hour from now, we are scheduled to talk with Secretary 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: of State Marco Rubio. Obviously he's in the news in 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: a big way, I believe. Tomorrow in Munich there are 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: reports that the conversations about a ceasefire between Ukraine and 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Russia are preparing to escalate in a significant fashion. We'll 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: get the absolute latest with Marco Rubio again, scheduled to 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: join us in an hour. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: He was scheduled to be on with us yesterday. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: As you can well imagine, things can evolve very quickly 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: in the position of Secretary of State, so he had 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: to reschedule. Hopefully we'll be able to talk to him 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: at the top of the next hour and then at 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the bottom of the next hour. Our buddy, Senator Ron 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: Johnson of Wisconsin, who was texting with us earlier this 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: week as we were discussing the budget related challenges. He 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: wants to lay out what he leaves should be the 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: targeted budget protocols and how we get back to a 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: balanced budget. As he sees it. I think you guys 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: will enjoy that conversation. Big news so far today RFK 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Junior has officially been confirmed. And Buck, I want to 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: lay out a thesis for you. You tell me whether 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: you buy it or not. We have seen, in short 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: order in the last six months seven months, Donald Trump 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: remake the Republican Party in a more significant fashion than 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I think almost anyone has realized. And I understand because 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: Trump moves so quickly, and because every day is such 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: a frenzy, sometimes it's difficult to tell what matters and 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: what is a distraction. And let me give David Axelrod, 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: probably unexpectedly some credit here, Buck. In the Albama administration, 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: he coined the phrase nothing burger, as in a lot 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: of stories bubble up and everybody gets really focused on them, 35 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about it. But he would look at 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: that and say, it's a nothing burger. It's a twenty 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: four hour start with nothing burger. 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: I think nothing burger existed before him, Clay, I don't think. 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: In the context, in the context of politics, I never 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: heard anybody else apply the phrase nothing burger. That's a 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: good question for etymology. Am I pronouncing that word? Right 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: etymology experts who initially popularized the phrase nothing burger. 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: Good question. 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: Hollywood Gossip columnist Luela Parsons is credited with coining the 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: term nothing burger in the nineteen fifties, according to Google AI. 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: All right, so I apologize, apologize to the Hollywood Gossip 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Maven for giving credit to ax Aurt. I will say 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: I had never heard it really used in a political context. 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: My point on that is a lot of what Trump 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: coverage consists of are things that are inconsequential that will 51 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: not last longer than twenty four hours. And I think 52 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: Trump's particular genius is a lot of times people, when 53 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: they say something that turns into a story, will backtrack 54 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: and focus on it and keep on analyzing it. 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: Trump just keeps firing. 56 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: He moves forward in sort of as a force of will, 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: and he forces you to follow him instead of constantly 58 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: looking at what's behind. 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: He's a very forward thinking person. 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Okay, With that in mind, I don't think there's enough 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: discussion about how radical Trump has transformed the Republican Party. 62 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: Think about this. 63 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: Buck Elon Musk votes for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Never endorsed Trump until July thirteenth of twenty twenty four, 65 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: right after the assassination attempt Tulsei Gabbert, who just got 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: confirmed yesterday. I believe Tulca Gabbard ran against Donald Trump 67 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty lifelong Democrat from Hawaii RFK Junior until 68 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: when did he officially endorse August? Maybe September. I think 69 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Omeed Malik, who's a friend of the show, deserves a 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: lot of credit behind the scenes. This guy is really 71 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: plugged in, and he was boys with RFK Junior, and 72 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: he worked as hard as he could to help make 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: this union happen. I think it was an August endorsement 74 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: where RFK Junior finally came out and said, I'm on 75 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: board with Trump. What do those people represent? Make America 76 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: healthy again. I think that's something that everybody out there 77 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, you know what, I wish this nation 78 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: was healthier, common sense, balance the budget, bring a diverse 79 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: coalition of people of a variety of backgrounds who believe 80 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: in innate American exceptionalism and greatness, and remake the Republican 81 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Party on the fly as the party of common sense 82 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and the representative of the everyday average American. I don't 83 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: think most people are recognizing what's happening here simultaneously. Buck, 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: It's not just what you create. It is because we 85 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: have developed this system of fifty to fifty. Basically in 86 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the twenty first century, Democrats have gotten used to inherently 87 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: opposing what Republicans advocate for and vice versa. And it's 88 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: not just that Trump has rebuilt the Republican Party. It's 89 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: that Democrats as a result, are increasingly isolating themselves in 90 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: terms of advocating for small, all minority identity groups that 91 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: do not represent the larger American population. For example, yesterday, 92 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Democrats show up and introduce a bill for reparations and 93 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: argue that America's racist and that black people need to 94 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: be paid because of slavery. They also now only two Democrats, Buck, 95 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: we're willing to argue in favor of women's sports only 96 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: being made up of women. They won't even allow that 97 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: to be voted on in the Senate right now. And 98 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: we also have now the attack policy of Democrats being no, no, no. 99 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: Federal workers are great. 100 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: We shouldn't be searching as aggressively as we are for 101 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: fraud and waste. I think we have a building going. 102 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's going to continue. But the 103 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: momentum we've got going on right now is the Republicans 104 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: are building a durable, permanent majority party, and Democrats are 105 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: building a permanent, endurance, durable minority party. And every day 106 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Republicans are expanding their coalition and every day Democrats are 107 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: decreasing theirs. Now, at some point, maybe sanity returns to 108 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, but out of nowhere Trump has built 109 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: an incredible edifice upon which a new party is being 110 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: built and based. And it's a coalition that has a 111 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: huge tent of just rational, normal, everyday Americans, many of 112 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: whom were Democrats until about six months ago. I mean, 113 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you can miss the seismic impacts because 114 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: we're looking at all of these twenty four hour stories. 115 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: The idea that Tulci Gabbert and Rfk Junior are in 116 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the Trump cabinet, that Elon Musk is basically sleeping in 117 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: the White House, all to try to make America a 118 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: more exceptional nation. 119 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: Buck. 120 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: If we had said this a year ago, a lot 121 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: of people would have said, you guys, are. 122 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: There's no way that's going to happen. 123 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: Yes, And so the question that I have for you 124 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: is do you buy that a new party is being built? 125 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: And do you buy that the Democrats are basically lighting 126 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: themselves on fire every day? How does this change the 127 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: trajectory that we're on right now? 128 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think that we knew that it was Trump's 129 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: Republican party in the first Trump term, and now there's 130 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: been an even further consolidation this time around. Because what 131 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: you have is I think I said this before, but 132 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: I like the analogy. It's like Trump and his team 133 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: did the Rocky training in Siberia before they go up 134 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: against Ivan Drago. You know, this is the most ferociously 135 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: focused and talented and relentless Trump Maga movement that we 136 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: have ever seen. And that means that Democrats have a 137 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: challenge even if they had some of their old stable 138 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: of big political names to deal with. But it's coming 139 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: at a time when I think they're particularly weak, and 140 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: I think their arguments are particularly weak. Part of this 141 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: is that one thing you've noticed, you know, Clay, you 142 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: just had a speech on campus, right and you out 143 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: with exposing some young college people to arguments they probably 144 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: had not heard before. I remember when I was a 145 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: college Republican in two thousand. Okay, wow, twenty five years 146 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 147 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: Twenty five years. 148 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: Ago, I was a freshman, and I remember very clearly, 149 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: very early on, the recognition among college Republicans at Amhersten was, 150 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: we know that we have to be ready to fight, 151 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: meaning you know, argue, debate in the classroom, in the 152 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: study hall, among friends, whatever, and so we were always lean, 153 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: mean and ready for action. Democrats, I think got a 154 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: combination of crazier and flabbier intellectual because they had achieved 155 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: so much information dissemination dominance. What I mean is because 156 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: they could kick you off the Internet, which they did 157 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: to parlor, because they could count on all social media 158 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: platforms to be aligned with their ideology, to shut down 159 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: questioning the election, to shut down questioning masks and lockdowns 160 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: and the COVID vacciness effectiveness and all this stuff. I 161 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: think they just got sloppy, and I think that as 162 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: a result, the craziest element was able to ascend with 163 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party, and they were a particularly weak element 164 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: when it came to being able to convince anybody of anything. 165 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: Right. 166 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: So it's like the virus, so to speak, was able 167 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: to run rampant with the Democrats, and now we're seeing 168 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 3: what the casualties of that are politically. So you know, 169 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: you have the strongest Trump and the strongest MAGA that 170 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: we have ever seen, most consolidated, the most able to 171 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: bring over converts to your point about RFK and Tulsi, 172 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: And at the same time as you have the weakest 173 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: Democrat party that we've seen in my adult lifetime. In 174 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: twenty five years, this is the weakest Democrat party we've 175 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: ever seen. 176 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: Here's a question I want you, guys. 177 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: I think that the party has been remade, and I 178 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: think it's important to think about it. I know many 179 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: of you out there listening may not have been traditional 180 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: listeners of this program. Question that I think is very 181 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: interesting is how do the Democrats eventually align on somebody 182 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: to combat it? And I'm we talked about this, I 183 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: don't know that there's a current office holder who is 184 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: charismatic enough to be that person. So think about that 185 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: second part of this. How durable is the Trump magic? 186 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: How durable is the movement that Trump has built? In 187 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: other words, how much of it transfers to whomever the 188 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: air is and how much of it is unique to 189 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Trump's own particular brand of what I think you have 190 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: to say, is political fairy dust. 191 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he is a unique. 192 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: Political unicorn talent. How much of it transfers. Let's pretend 193 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: that JD. Vance is the guy going forward. These are 194 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: the things I think in the back of your mind, 195 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: big picture that you should be contemplating, because one of 196 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: these big things that you have to keep in mind 197 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: is as good as Trump is and as many wins 198 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: as he is stacking right now, a Democrat with a 199 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: pen at the resolute desk can wipe out an awful 200 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: lot of this greatness over four years. We have to 201 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: stack multiple terms. 202 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: So your point about whether it transfers and whether you 203 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: know and I think Trump it was interesting. We didn't 204 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: discuss this, but he was asked in a recent interview. 205 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: I think it was Brett Baer, is JD. Vance your successor? 206 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: And he responded something along the lines of JD's super 207 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: competent and capable. But you know, we'll see. And I 208 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: think we have to keep that in mind, whether the not, 209 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: not for JD specifically, but just what happens with the 210 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: MAGA movement going forward with Trump's Republican Party. A lot 211 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: of it will be determined by how successful the next 212 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: eighteen months are the next eighteen months is a continuation 213 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: of what we've seen in this first month. Then I 214 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: think you're just going to have an incredibly robust party 215 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: that has a solid majority of the American people behind 216 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: it and can count upon a whole bunch of people 217 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: to take the torch and move forward with it. You know, 218 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: it all depends. Right right now everything looks rosy and great. 219 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: We got to see where everything goes. So but I 220 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: think the case for optimism right now is stronger for 221 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: the Republican Party, for this new Republican Party under Trump overall, 222 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: than it has been in a very long time. I mean, really, 223 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: the only kind of consolidation I think you've seen among 224 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: Republicans that is in any way similar to what we 225 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: have now is the immediate aftermath of nine to eleven, 226 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: which is very different. That's getting together in the bunker 227 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: to fight in exit stential threat against our way of 228 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: life in our society. 229 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: That's not I think. 230 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna tackle the debt and have a booming economy 231 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: and have peace. So we're in a different place now 232 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: under Trump, but we've had a similar level of consolidation 233 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: among Republicans that we haven't seen in twenty plus years. 234 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: I went on yesterday because I wanted to check and 235 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: see for myself just how deep the offerings were from 236 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: Hillsdale College at Clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com. 237 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: And I want you to trust me on this. 238 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: In fact, if you've got your phones by you right now, 239 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: type it in clayanbuckfour Hillsdale dot com and go look 240 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: at all of the video offerings that they have. It's incredible, Buck, 241 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: I was just scrolling through. They got a course on 242 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Mark Twain. Mark Twain is one of my favorite writers 243 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: of all time. If you maybe haven't thought about Huckleberry 244 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Finn or Tom Sawyer the era of Mark Twain, maybe 245 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: your kids are doing readings and you kind of looked 246 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: at it. 247 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 248 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: How about the impact of ancient Rome on modern American life? 249 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: How about the Federalist papers? How many things out there 250 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: historically are super relevant that you hear and you've heard 251 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: them talked about for some time, but you just don't 252 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: have a personal depth of knowledge relating to it. Ho 253 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: about the Constitution itself. You know, my wife's a little 254 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: bit of a nerd. She travels with her own copy 255 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: of the Constitution it's actually not that long of a document. 256 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: She's a lawyer too. 257 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: But how many of you have ever actually even read 258 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: the Constitution? We all talk about it. How many of 259 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: you know the history of the Constitution. 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Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 273 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: you get your podcasts. 274 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back into Clay and Buck. 275 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: Just a reminder, we're gonna be talking to Secretary of 276 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: State Marco Rubio in the third hour of the program. 277 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: We will also be joined. 278 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: In that third hour by Ron Johnson of Wisconsin talking 279 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: to him about Doge and all that good stuff. Speaking 280 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: of Doge is a quick one. This cut eleven. Play 281 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,119 Speaker 3: do you see this elon and Trump talking about how FEMA, 282 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: why is FEMA doing this? Pay double the normal hotel 283 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: rate for illegals in luxury New York City hotels. 284 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Play eleven. 285 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: We have a case in New York where a hotel 286 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: has paid fifty nine million dollars fifteen nine million because 287 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: because it's housing migrants. 288 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: Illegal migrants. It's all illegal, I believe, and they will 289 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: be paid twice the normal room rate at a herd 290 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: person occupants. 291 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: Unbelievable again, lighting money on fire and the priorities here 292 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: illegals hotel rooms. 293 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: They're putting illegals up. 294 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: And I know some of these hotels that they're staying 295 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: and I've walked past them in New York recently or 296 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: you know, in the relatively recent past. 297 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: And Clay, it's outrageous to people, it's outrageous. I mean 298 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: for anybody who visits New York. I tried to book 299 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a room recently. 300 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: This is funny. 301 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: I need to tell this story when I come back, 302 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: about the room that I ended up and what it 303 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: cost i heeart because there's no rooms. Because so many 304 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: illegals are taking up hotel rooms. They kill the Airbnb 305 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: and verbo or whatever in the city and as a result, 306 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: impossible to get a room anywhere for any affordable cost. 307 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely the case, what the team that Preborn is doing 308 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 3: is incredible, by the way, nothing remarkable. 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That's 325 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: pound two five zero, say baby, or go to preborn 326 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: dot com slash buck sponsored by Preborn. 327 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 328 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: We were just talking about the fifty nine million that 329 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: went to housing illegal immigrants in New York City, and 330 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you have potentially had 331 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: a trip to New York City recently. 332 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: We have our iHeart studios there. 333 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: When was I up like December like it was or 334 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: late November sometime where they the lights were on for 335 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: the Christmas tree and stuff like that. It was early 336 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: December is right before we left for Israel, and so 337 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: I needed to get a hotel room, and the staff 338 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: buck went to go book me a hotel room. Now 339 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: New York has banned basically Airbnb and vrbo, so that 340 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: used to be very common. They also now it's something 341 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: some crazy percentage of the hotel rooms are now as 342 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: this fifty nine million dollars is being pointed out being 343 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: spent to house illegal immigrants, so that takes all of 344 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: those rooms off off the register, off the available booking list. 345 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: I stayed in a Hyatt Hilton caliber hotel. So it's nice, 346 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: but it's not like it was the rich Carlton. It's 347 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: not like it was some five star, incredible hotel. It 348 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: was almost for the company for me to stay in 349 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: New York City, almost one thousand dollars a night. Buck 350 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: I checked in and I got to the hotel room, 351 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I laid down on the bed. I could touch the 352 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: wall on either side of me. 353 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: That sounds like my first four New York apartments. But yeah, yes, 354 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars a night. 355 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: So what they are doing is for regular people who 356 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: are let's say you have to be in New York 357 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: City for work, or let's say you just wanted to 358 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: take your family for a spring break or a summer 359 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: trip to New York, as many families try to do. 360 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: They are making it cost prohibitive by using all of 361 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: our tax dollars to house illegal immigrants in very nice 362 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: hotel rooms, give them Wi Fi pay for their meals, 363 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: and in the process, normal people who might be traveling 364 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: to New York are getting gouged because there simply aren't 365 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: enough hotel rooms based on the way this process playing out. 366 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: So the reason why I bring all this up is 367 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: the consequence with here, it's important to know that the 368 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: people being gouged or paying for it correct the illegals 369 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: are having it paid for with the people who are 370 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: being gouged money in a lot of cases, because there 371 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: are a lot of Americans who come to visit New 372 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: York who are the ones who are paying these taxes 373 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: in the first correct paying you're both getting gouged on 374 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: the hotel rooms that you yourself have to pay for, 375 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: while also helping cause the gouging by your tax dollars 376 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: going to pay. 377 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: For illegal immigrants. 378 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: I just think this is a radical thing that most 379 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: people really have not spent very much time thinking about 380 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: three and four star hotels in New York City being 381 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: completely given over to illegal immigrants based on your and 382 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: mind tax dollars subsidizing rooms for them such that the 383 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: overall cost goes up. And this is one remember when 384 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Jade Vance got ripped when he said, hey, one reason 385 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: rents are going up is because we've got a huge 386 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: influx of illegals. And one of the moderators, if I 387 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: remember correctly, said what economic basis do you have for 388 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: that supply and demand? 389 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: Like the hotels two zero percent of hotels in New 390 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: York City are off the market, so correct. I mean, 391 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: if you told me that you were going to eliminate 392 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: twenty percent of the housing stock in a city, guess 393 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: what rent's going to go up totally. 394 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: And so it's not only that these illegal immigrants are 395 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: costing US tax dollars. I think you have to recognize 396 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: that they're driving up costs for other things that Americans 397 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: are going to consume. Your rent in whatever city that 398 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: you're in, if there is a substantial illegal immigrant population, 399 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: is going to go up because there is more demand 400 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: for the rental properties than otherwise might be able to 401 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: be satisfied. And then you toss in the Biden inflation, 402 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: which has so many people unable to afford to buy 403 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: a starter home, or if you're fortunate enough to own 404 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: a home, a lot of you with two and a 405 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: half three percent mortgage rates, you're never gonna move because 406 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to take on a seven. 407 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: Percent thirty year mortgage. 408 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: And even if it might make more sense, your kids 409 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: have moved out of the house, or you've had a 410 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: new baby, or you want to go to a new 411 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: school district. So much of our entire housing and rental 412 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: industry is frozen because of the broken policies of Joe Biden, 413 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: and almost nobody spends very much time talking about it 414 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: at all, And I do think it goes to the essence, 415 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: although I do think it's funny. 416 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: Buck have you seen? And I think all of you 417 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: need to pay attention to it. 418 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: The sudden pivot from Democrats from never talking about prices 419 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: and claiming that the economy was great and you were 420 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: a moron if you were seeing things and not happy, 421 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: to suddenly now the price of eggs is one hundred 422 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: percent Donald Trump's fault, and oh, the economy is not 423 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: very good. It is kind of amazing how they went 424 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: from bidnomics is great and your moron's for not recognizing 425 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: it to Trump's been in office three weeks and oh, 426 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: by the way, this is his economy now and he sucks. 427 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: I would honestly extend a little Christian sympathy to the 428 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: and formerly known as the MSM. They're no longer the 429 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: mainstream media, if they ever were, now they're just dying 430 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: legacy Democrat media outlets play. They have conditioned their audience 431 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 3: for anti Trump news, and it's really hard to come 432 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: up with anti Trump news right now, if you and 433 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: I were winning, winning, sorry, running the MSNBC newsroom, how 434 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: would we stand in the way of all the winning 435 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: that Trump is doing? 436 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: Like what would you say? 437 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: You've seen some mother's like, well, he's a racist, he's 438 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: a fascist. But that's really pathetic. No one cares, No 439 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: one believes it's not true. And so they say this stuff. 440 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 3: They've tried, this stuff about constitutional crisis, and that's just 441 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: a way of covering up the fact that they seem 442 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: to think that all the bad spending should continue, the wasteful, 443 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: fraudulent spending should continue. And so now it's you know, 444 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: why haven't you brought the price of eggs down in 445 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: the first thirty days that you've been the president. Part 446 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: of it is malicious, they know that that's stupid. Part 447 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: of it is they have nothing better to say because 448 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: they have to feed. Right, the audience has been trained. 449 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: If you watch MSNBC, if you read the New York Times, 450 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: you've been trained for a decade to expect a steady 451 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: diet of anti trumpism. And then another part of it 452 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: is ignorance. I mean, there are how many people that 453 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: are in the New York Times editorial page. You think 454 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: in any day or in the CNN newsroom really understand, 455 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: really understand basic economics. 456 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: I think negligible percentage. Yeah, so it's all those things 457 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: together right now. 458 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: If I could change one thing, it would be that 459 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: every single person representing the United States has to have 460 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: founded or been employed by a small or medium sized 461 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: business at some point in their life. 462 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: I think it would change everything. 463 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Senator Ron Johnson, who we're going to talk 464 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: to in the next hour, Really what you can look 465 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: at is I was talking about this because I do 466 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: think it's significant Democrats are saying, hey, we're going to 467 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: introduce a reparations bill. 468 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: They don't have. 469 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: The Democrat Party doesn't really now have anyone, it seems 470 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: to me, in a position of prominence or power, who 471 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: has any basic comprehension of how markets work. And if 472 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: you don't understand basic economics and business and marketplace dynamics, 473 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to represent the United States, in 474 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, because you lack the functional knowledge to understand 475 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: the consequences of your behavior. And whatever you want to 476 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: say about Trump, the guy understands markets, he understands interest rates, 477 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: he understands budgeting, payroll, all of those things that are 478 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: integral to any business having any measure of success, and 479 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats don't really have anybody who can counter it. 480 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: They got Bernie Sanders. Democrats see government as a way 481 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: to get rich. Most people on that side of of 482 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: the party have never ever had to make payroll. And 483 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: this is really the story of the federal government writ large, 484 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: because if you have no fear of losing your job, 485 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: my general opinion is you probably are pretty crappy at 486 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: doing that job because pressure and consequences usually creates a 487 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: better outcome, as does competition, and we don't have any 488 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: of that in our federal government. By the way, maybe 489 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: get up to one hundred thousand people taking the buyout 490 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: positive news, Did you see this? Like the numbers have 491 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: started to tick up even more so. Seventy five thousand, 492 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I believe is the most recent number, and there's some 493 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: possibility they may get to one hundred thousand voluntary buyouts. 494 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: And a federal judge said, oh, you know what, the 495 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: government can buy out people who make that voluntary choice. 496 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: So I do think that in general is a positive, 497 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: directionally oriented movement. 498 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: I think that with the exception of the birthright citizenship issue, 499 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: which we knew was going to go to the courts, 500 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: and they knew it was good. 501 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: There was no surprise there. 502 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, oh, the Trump's going to do this 503 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: executive order and then they're going to accept it. But 504 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: with most of these other court challenges, it's just a 505 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: question of time before they get overturned on appeal or 506 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: at the Supreme Court. I think that there are these 507 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: mostly procedural tantrums that some of these circuit court judges 508 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: have thrown about Trump executive orders are on incredibly shaky, 509 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: almost non existent legal ground in YEES cases. I mean, 510 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: with the with the federal buyout, it's but what if 511 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: it's like too fast and we have to just slow 512 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: this down. No, that's not that's not what a judge does. 513 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: A judge doesn't get to say the executive branch is 514 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: doing too many things. That's that's not a you know, 515 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: the executive branch has taken on too many functions within 516 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: its at it's. 517 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Acting acting too much in the executive too. 518 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: Much efficiency, too much efficiency going you know, get getting 519 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: the mission done way too quickly, unacceptable. But it really 520 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: is the mentality within the federal government is don't be 521 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: too efficient don't be too good at what you do. 522 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: Just do the minimum and complain a lot about how 523 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: you're underpaid. 524 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: Just telling you. 525 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll get set for the third 526 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: hour here with Marco Rubio schedule to join us and 527 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson. But Buck, I've got a clip that 528 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: I think you're going to enjoy where I went toe 529 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: to toe with a a guy who had not gotten 530 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: enough COVID shots, a left winger on Pierce Morgan Show. 531 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: I think you'll enjoy this. We'll play it for you 532 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 2: here in a little bit. 533 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: But I want to tell you big game coming up 534 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: this weekend, biggest sporting event, Buck, Do you have any 535 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: idea what the biggest sporting event this weekend is Saturday? 536 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: Biggest sporting event on Saturday? NASCAR? Well, you know what. 537 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: You may have caught me a little bit a little 538 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: bit here. I think Sunday is the Daytona five hundred. 539 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: You were close. I think I might in a fact 540 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: check on Buck's history bucks sports knowledge here, which is 541 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: a first. 542 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: Because I'm shot in the dark. 543 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: By the way, if I hit the target, that's pretty money. 544 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: NASCAR is broad. But I think Sunday is the Daytona 545 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: five hundred. But what I was going for is Alabama 546 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: and Auburn. One versus two in basketball has never happened before. 547 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Usually it's a big football matchup. One versus two has 548 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: never happened in football, but it's happening in basketball in 549 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: the state of Alabama. It's gonna be the biggest game. 550 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: And if you have prize picks, you can play along 551 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: and have a lot of fun with it. We use 552 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: code Clay. You get fifty bucks. But to bucks point, 553 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: NASCAR Daytona five hundred is coming up. You've also got 554 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game. March Madness is not far away. 555 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Pitchers and catchers reporting in Major League Baseball. There are 556 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different sports that are soon to be underway. 557 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Why not have some fun. 558 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: You can play in California, you can play in Texas, 559 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: you can play in Georgia. Prizepicks dot com, code clay, 560 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: that's pricepicks dot com, code Clay. Get hooked up right now. 561 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Make sure that you do not miss the opportunity. Forty states, 562 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: thirteen million people playing, third biggest sports gaming company out there. 563 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: They are doing fabulous work. They love all of you, 564 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: and they will give you fifty dollars. When you play 565 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: five dollars at prizepicks dot com code Clay, you. 566 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: Ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim your 567 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: sanity with Clay and Fun. 568 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 569 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: get your podcasts. 570 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We will get some 571 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: calls here, if not right now, certain the next hour 572 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: and coming up we have a big hour for you. 573 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: We have Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, assuming he 574 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: doesn't have to deal with an imminent issue of world peace. 575 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: And if he does, that's fine, that's what the Secretary 576 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: of State has to do, but he should be with 577 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: us here shortly. And then also Senator Ron Johnson, we 578 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: talked about DOGE and a saving America from financial insolvency, which. 579 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: I think is a pretty big deal. 580 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: But Clay has felt a little pugilistic recently, as you 581 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: may have picked up he went to University of Chicago 582 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: and was busy stomping on The Atlantic on stage, which 583 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: it very much deserves. I might add the Atlantic is 584 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: a smug left wing journal of smug left wing opinion. 585 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: And then Clay decided to go on the Piers Morgan Show, 586 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: which I am told this clip is going to be entertaining. 587 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: You and one Roland Martin. Correct, mister Roland Martin having 588 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: a bit of an exchange. It's up at clayanbuck dot 589 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: com if you want to watch the video. But here 590 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: is how that went fired up. 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm specifically asking you're going after an RFK junior for 592 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: not following government advice. You have chosen not to follow 593 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: government advice and get ten COVID shots like your government 594 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: has told you. Why are you not a science deni 595 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: or why are you not a shot DENI firstball. 596 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: Because I'm not a sassin that I'm not a siass denier. 597 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm not a shot denier, and I also believe denying 598 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: science by only getting two. 599 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: COVID shot signed way way, that's cute, but I'm not 600 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: denying side. 601 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: I think you are eight COVID shots. You're saying shots. 602 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: I can show you the fifteen shots that I got 603 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Deni Africa. This is play. 604 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't we can share the show now with you 605 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: being such a science denial way way, your. 606 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: Little cute, your little cute little moment is cute, but. 607 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. Okay, So but I did it work. Actually, 608 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: I think it worked. I think it works really well. 609 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: And this is my advice to all of you. If 610 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: people are saying to you, AREFK Junior, Oh it's a 611 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna hear it. You might hear it 612 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: from your kids, you might hear it from your spouses, 613 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: you might hear it from friends and family. Just ask 614 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: them how many COVID shots you get. I'm at zero, 615 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: but sorry laugh. Buck got the one that got pulled 616 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: off the market. I got the worst one. I'll never forget. 617 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: The nurse was like, you don't want this one, this 618 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: one doesn't work, and I was like, no, no, that's 619 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: the one New York City's making me get it. I'm 620 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna get the one that doesn't do anything to remind people. 621 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: Because this is right after we started. They checked fax 622 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: cards so you could go to your brother's wedding. Yeah, 623 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: in New York City. 624 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: The venue required sending a VAX card via email for 625 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 3: every guest in advance. So they had a list of everybody. 626 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: Because you know it's a wedding, it's expensive, you pay 627 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: per head. It was send us a VAX card for 628 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: every person on your list, or they will be barred 629 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: at the door. That was what we had to deal with. 630 00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is I mean, I think it's wor 631 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: worth mentioning how crazy town these people went. But a 632 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: lot of these people stopped listening because they recognized that 633 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: the COVID shot didn't stop you from getting COVID and 634 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: most people out there are not getting all these boosters. 635 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: So when they say that RFK Junior is a science 636 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: deny or which is what started that conversation, ask them 637 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: how many COVID shots they got and unless their answer 638 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: is eight or ten, then they are making a calculated 639 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: decision to analyze risk on their own and not accept 640 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: the full recommendation of the United States government. And I 641 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: bet almost none of you out there listening to us 642 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: right now have gotten eight, nine or ten COVID shots. 643 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: I bet you're not pincushions because you recognize that using 644 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: your brain and making the best decisions for you and 645 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: your health is actually the foundational element of individual freedom 646 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: in America. So I think it undercuts a lot of 647 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: the RFK anti vaccine talk. He's not anti most vaccines. 648 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: He just questions whether we need to be giving what 649 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: is the number? Now you're gonna find this out soon 650 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: seventy or something. It's seventy shots to a kid under one. Yeah, 651 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I think there starts to be 652 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, again, a lot is there, baby CEO. She's 653 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna make all the necessary calls about all that stuff. 654 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: I get it, and that's what every mom should be. 655 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: But I never thought about it at all with my 656 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: kids until this COVID clap trap happened. And now I 657 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say, are we over medicating kids? 658 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: I think the answer is probably yes. I want those 659 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: questions asked. 660 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 3: I actually was going through an old tennis bag the 661 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: other day and I found a disgusting little cloth mask 662 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: because you had to put on to walk onto the court.