1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: And welcome back, George Nori with you, Melinda Williams with us. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: From an early age, Melinda realized she wasn't just like 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: anyone else. While other children are playing with toys, Melinda 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: experienced interactions with the greater powers. Melinda nalysis families and 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: law enforcement with missing and murder cases as well. Her 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: book is called Deathbeads. Her website is linked up at 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: coastocostdam dot com. Melinda, welcome back to the program. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 3: Thank you George. It's an honor to be here. How 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: have you been been doing pretty good? 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: How are you all good? All good? How did you 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: get this gift? Well? 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: I think it was handed down to me from my mom, 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: because my mom she had the gift too, So I 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: noticed it at a very early age. Weell the youngest 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: I remembers, when I was around seven years old. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: Did mom notice it too? With you? 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, real mom. I was taken at 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: birth a Native American, and I didn't get to know 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: my real family until around twenty ten when I found 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: my real family, and so it was a really struggle 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: being raised here in Tennessee. And then learning later on 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: in life, you know that I was different. Plus then 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: I learned that my family. I was taken from my 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 3: family when I was born. 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: Were you adopted legally? No. 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: What I found out later when we started doing the 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: research on it, and I found out everything. I was 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: taken and I was called what's called a lost bird, 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: and I was taken from my family. They were told 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: that I had passed away. 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Now, when you say you were taken, were you like stolen? 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: That's the way I see it. You know, back in 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight, that's when I saw occurred. There was 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: a tendency for Native American children to be taken from 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 3: their family, and I was taken. I had a twin brother, 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: and I was taken at birth. I was sick, I 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,279 Speaker 3: was jaundice, and so they kept me in the hospital. 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: And then when my real mom came back to get me, 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: they had told her I had passed away. 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: They lied to her. Yes, the family that took you 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: and got you, how did they treat you as a child. 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: I was treated very differently, And you know, it was 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: really really a tough childhood. There was a lot of 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: emotional and physical abuse, and so It was very difficult, 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: but I knew I was different even than you know, 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: when in school my teachers would say, you know, you're 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 3: so much different than that family, and I'm like, well, 49 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: that's the family family I know. And so I didn't 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: learn of my real family till twenty ten. 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: How did you realize that? 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: Well, my husband, he came to Tennessee from Arizona, and 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: we moved back to Arizona and I started working at 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: a newspaper, and the newspaper there had me out going 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: out on the reservation, and that's how I ran into 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: my mom. She knew me. She said you're my daughter, 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: and you know, and I thought she was crazy. And 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: we'd done some blood work and it showed that she 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 3: was ninety nine point nine to nine percent of my mom. 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: Is she still with us? 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: No, she is not. 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: About how about the father? Excuse me, how about the father? 63 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: Yes, my father is still alive. My twin brother passed away. 64 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Also, you still just stay in touch with the dad, Yes, 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: I do. It's fascinating for you. And through all this 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: the psychic realm started growing for you, didn't it. 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Exactly? Yes, like I said. The earliest I remember was 68 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: when I was seven and I was in school and 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: over the weekend and one of my classmates got killed 70 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: in a car accidents. And so we were back in 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: school and the teacher was, you know, announcing to the 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: class that, you know, the I'm not going to say 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: any names, but okay, first name. Her first name was Stephanie, 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: and said that Stephanie had been in a car accident 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: and she had passed away. And so I raised my 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: hand and I'm like, no, Stephanie's at her desk. And 77 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: she's like, Melinda, stop, and I'm like, well, Stephanie is 78 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: sitting name sitting at her desk. She's looking at everybody 79 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: like what are you talking about? And so that was 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: the first encounter that I had that I can remember 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: of seeing spirits. 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: Little Stephanie didn't realize she was gone. 83 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: No, no, she did not, and and so she came 84 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: home with me and and her would play and then 85 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: finally I explained to her, you know, well the teacher 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: said that you got killed, and and that's when she 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: started realizing. And that's when I already realizing that I 88 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: was different. And you know, the people that it was 89 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: raising me, I you know, I thought they were my family, 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: and I was telling them, and they told me that 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: you know, I was crazy, that I had the devil 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: in me, and they would take me to churches and 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, Georgia. It didn't go overwhel because I 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: would just speak up and say, well, you know, but yeah, 95 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: that was that was the first encounter. And that's how 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: when I. 97 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: Realized, did they take you to psychiatrists or anything like 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: that in Melinda? 99 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: And no, they did not. Uh, they just kept taking 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: me to church after churchs and that you know, I 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: had the devil in me and they would do these 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: blessings and this. I don't know what all it was, 103 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: but that's that's what they did. And then finally, you know, 104 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: I started saying stuff to the preacher and then I 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: was not welcomed back because you know, I was picking 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: up stuff on the city situation with him and other things, 107 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 3: and so I was not a love back in church. 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: Who did you turn to for help or did you 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: do all this on your own? 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: I basically done it on my own. There was one 111 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: teacher that I confided in and she believed me, and 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, she helped me as much as she could. 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: But it was basically me growing up and taking this 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: and keeping quiet about it. Once I learned, you know, 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 3: I was going to be really mistreated with it, I 116 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: started just going, you know, going within and getting away 117 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: from the family when I could to do the things 118 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: that I did. 119 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Did you like the gift that you had or did 120 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: that develop later? 121 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: At first I was afraid of it, because you know, 122 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: I was. I started in more spirits and more spirits, 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: and so it scared me. But then I didn't have 124 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: nobody to talk to, so I sort of just I 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: knew they were there, and you know, there's certain spirits 126 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: that would come to me an urgency, and that would 127 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: mean like most of them, you know, were murdered and 128 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: they were wanting some kind of closure, and so I 129 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 3: would you know, write down their name and a little book, 130 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: and then later on I would try to fund the family. 131 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: But as I got older, it's when I really you know, 132 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: took it. And when I met my husband, he stood 133 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: the side of me with it, tell me not to 134 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: be ashamed of it or afraid, and that's when I 135 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: really started doing the work. 136 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's been a great influence for you. 137 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: Yes, he sure was. He passed away in twenty eleven. 138 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. We were together for twenty five years, and 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: he'd died unexpectedly, and that was an experience with me 140 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: being able to see spirit. I couldn't see him and 141 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: I couldn't understand it, and it was really weird because 142 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: we had talked about that and I've never been afraid 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: of that, and he always told me before he passed, 144 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: he told me he would go first, and that he 145 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: would I would not be able to see him at 146 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: first because I would be so restrickened, and that eventually 147 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: I would see him once I received a coin that 148 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: had Geronimo on it. 149 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Did that all happen? 150 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: Yes? It every bit happened. And approximately a year after 151 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: his passing, I was given I was approached and was 152 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: giving gifted at Geronimo. Coin had Geronimo's face on it, 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 3: and that was the day that I finally got to 154 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: see his spirit. 155 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: How old was he when he passed? 156 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: He had just turned forty three. 157 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's young. 158 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was young. 159 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: When you saw the coin, what did you think? 160 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: Immediately I thought to him, I said, oh my gosh. 161 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: He told me I would see it, I would see Geronimo. 162 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: And I was like, here it is, here is you know? 163 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: For just to be gifted to me. And it was 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: like three hours later his spirit appeared to me and 165 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: he was like, I told you you would see me 166 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: with Jerama, and that's exactly how it happened. And I 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: was just so took back, and he told me, he said, 168 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: in another reason was because I was so you know, restrickened. 169 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: I mean I developed what's called broken heart syndrome and 170 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: die from that, you know, Yes, yes, that's what I 171 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: was getting ready to see that. I had to go 172 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: to the cardiologist. I was minted to the hospital and 173 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: my heart rate got up to two hundred and fifty eight. God, 174 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: and it was the awfless feeling. I never ever want 175 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: to experience it again. And the doctor told me, he says, 176 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: you've got to get out of this stricken state or 177 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: you're going to die. 178 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: It's almost like being an aphi. Exactly exactly would you 179 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: consider this a near death experience, Melinda? 180 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: I did at one point, But I've had two of 181 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: those actual one of those when I was seven and 182 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: one of those when I was nearly eighteen. What happened, well, 183 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: when I was seven, I had an obstruction of the 184 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: bow and I got very sick, and of course the 185 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: family that was raising me, they didn't recognize it or whatever, 186 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: and so by the time they got me to the 187 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: hospital after experiencing that for like three or four days, 188 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: I passed away briefly and the only thing I remember 189 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: was seeing the light. And that's everything I can remember 190 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: about that episode. But now, when I was seventeen, I 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: was pregnant and I went into labor and there was 192 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: problems and they had to finally do an emergency C section. 193 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: And then after that, it was like the next day 194 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: and I was not feeling well, and I kept telling 195 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: him I wasn't feeling well, and they kept saying, well, 196 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: it's because you just had a baby, and you're depressed 197 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: because you gain weight, and I'm like, you're out of 198 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: your mind because I was just so tickled to be pregnant. 199 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: And finally it got to the point I called my 200 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: husband and I told him to please get to the hospital. 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: There was something bad wrong. He left work, got there 202 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: within i'm gonna say about twenty minutes, and I told 203 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: him to make sure that our baby knew who I 204 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: was and you know, and I said, there's something bad wrong, 205 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: and then that was all I remembered. The next thing 206 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: I remembered I seen a light and I was drawn 207 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: to it. I was not afraid, and when I went 208 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: through the light, to me, it was like an all 209 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: encompassing light. Everywhere I looked there was a bright light. 210 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: And I just kept walking. And then the next thing 211 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: I knew, it came into an opening and it looked 212 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: very much like earth because it was very green, very flower. 213 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: It was beautiful. And then I've seen a building and 214 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: I approached the building and it's set of Kashak records, 215 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: and I knew. I knew at that age, you know, 216 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: I was seventeen, and I knew what the Kashak Records was. 217 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: And so I went inside and I was going through 218 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: and I felt my name and I was like, this 219 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: is it. I have passed away. Oh my god, you know, 220 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: because I started thinking about my baby and my husband 221 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: and I turned around was looking and then I heard 222 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: a voice and the voice said, my child, it's not 223 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: time for you. You've got to go back. And I 224 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: was like, no, I don't want to go back because 225 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: it was so peaceful and loving, and he's like, no, 226 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: you just had a baby. There's a lot you're going 227 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: to do. You've got to go back. You're going to 228 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 3: help people, and he says, when it's your time, you 229 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: will come back and you'll be welcome with open arms. 230 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: And next thing I remembered, I was back into my 231 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: body and I heard my husband and he started talking 232 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: to me, and what seemed like five minutes to me, 233 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: I had been out for three days and I was 234 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: on my support and I didn't recall any of that. 235 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: Those are the only two new death experiences you've gone through. Yes, 236 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: two's more than enough, right. 237 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, George, it sure is? He Well, it was weird. 238 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know I had an rh negative factor, and 239 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: so they had to do it blood transfusion on him 240 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: because I did not take the shot because I did 241 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: not know I was RGE negative, and so he they'd 242 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: done a complete blood transfusion. After that, he was perfectly fine. 243 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 2: And how old is he now? 244 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: He is thirty six? 245 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: Not a little baby anymore. 246 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: Not a little baby. You needmore, No, and you. 247 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: And he stayed with you and your husband, yes, uh huh, 248 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: good for you. At what point did you start healing people? 249 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: You mean healing from. 250 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: With your abilities? 251 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: Okay, my healing sessions, okay, yes, well I started doing that. 252 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: I had always from a young age, I would go 253 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: outside and you know, instead of playing like normal kids, 254 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: I was out collecting earths. And I'm I've done that 255 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: for a long time. So then as I'm got older, 256 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: I started, you know, doing different modalities and helping people. 257 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: Right now, my main focus on is on tuning forks. 258 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: So I'm a I'm certified in tuning forks, and and 259 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: I used my earths and essential oils. I make my 260 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: own essential oils, and I've just done that most of 261 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: my life. I've used it on my kids and my 262 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: husband family members of his side. But yeah, I've done 263 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: that for a very long time. 264 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: And what's the frequency the tuning forks your most ideal at? Well? 265 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: I have the ones that are for the seven chakras. 266 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: I really focus on the seven chakras and so the 267 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: ones I have, they're a tuned at different frequencies. Like 268 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: one of them is eight hundred and forty and that's. 269 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: For the root chakra. 270 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: So each each one of them is tuned to a 271 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: different megahertz and I can go in and I have 272 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: like three. 273 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: Different I think I have one which is about four 274 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: fifty two. Does that's all right? 275 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: Yep? Yeah, four fifty two that would be around for 276 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: the antly between the heart chakra and the sacral so 277 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: that one can be used on those frequencies for those 278 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: two different Chakras's that's what I focus on. Is it 279 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: the chakras? 280 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: What is it about the frequency when you hear it? 281 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: You know, when when it sounds. 282 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: Just like one did, then yes, exactly and you did 283 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: you sound just like it? But just for example, I 284 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: recently done aituting for accession, and when I go through, 285 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: I do what I do with them with its seven chakras. 286 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: When I got done, the ladies, when she got up, 287 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: she goes, I have never in my life experienced anything 288 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: like that, she says. The different frequencies that you use. 289 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: She says, it like awakened every nerve in my body. 290 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: And so to me, the frequencies it has a direct connection, 291 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: I feel, to our soul. And once that vibration goes 292 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: through our body and it awakens it, that is what 293 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: awakens to me our home spirit. 294 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: And you don't have to listen to it for a 295 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: long time just to get a little. 296 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: Bit of it exactly. And what I feel is really 297 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: important is when I do the session, I actually set 298 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 3: the fork on on the person and you know, the 299 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: vibration of it and the feeling of it together is 300 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: a very strong situation. I feel that it really it 301 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: cleanses it, It opens up the chakra systems, and I 302 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: truly feel that it does help. Like with the heart. 303 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: I had a client that was having some heart issues, 304 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: and of course I made them make sure that it 305 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: would be okay to do the tuning fork session. I'm 306 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: not a doctor, and they had to say, you know, 307 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: let their doctor know. They're cardiologists and as a cardiologist 308 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: that there shouldn't be anything that would hamper to do 309 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: with those And it actually this person she was having tachycardia, 310 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: which is, you know, a fast heart rate, and the 311 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: tuning fork sessions actually relieved that taca cardiac for her. 312 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: Well. 313 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: London's book is called death Beads. What are death beats. 314 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 3: In our culture? Deathbeats? This was something that's called bone beads, 315 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: and basically bone beas is is there is a belief 316 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: that you know, the darkness can surround you and bone 317 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: beads can be put in your presence or put on 318 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: you and it will cause some dark things to happen. 319 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: So I interwine that with my book death beats. That's 320 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: why they're called death BEEAs. 321 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 322 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam 323 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: dot com for more