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Speaker 1: he said, it is your boy in O R. He's
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Speaker 1: Would it good be? Hopefully? Would it should be? This
Speaker 1: is your boy in O R? What up is d
Speaker 1: J E f And this is Drink Chance, motherfucking podcast?
Speaker 1: Makes up? Now? Now? Now. When we started this podcast,
Speaker 1: we said we wanted we want to enter interview legends.
Speaker 1: We want people that's been out this game, has been
Speaker 1: in this game for ten years or more and it's
Speaker 1: still monkey foot stopping. People like to come under the
Speaker 1: table with the dirty timberlins on the side of your mouth.
Speaker 1: This guy has been doing stand up, had his first
Speaker 1: gig at fourteen or some ship like this. This man
Speaker 1: is still around. The baby, he's still around. He's been
Speaker 1: on Death Comedy Jam before you even knew what death
Speaker 1: Jam was. He's been out here He've been from Jerry
Speaker 1: McGuire to the Little Type of Different Movies to Mad
Speaker 1: TV one of the lottlest running cast members. When you
Speaker 1: think a king of comedy, I think him and it
Speaker 1: can't as impresses in the world. In case you don't
Speaker 1: know what that A crazy thing about you is a
Speaker 1: lot of people say they have rich history and comedy, right,
Speaker 1: you actually have used to be in comedy, like I
Speaker 1: mean from the beginning, like you know, going like, did
Speaker 1: you have your first game at fourteen or was it sixties?
Speaker 1: Started at fourteen? I started at fourteen, So what was
Speaker 1: that comedic? It was being or just being entertainment? You
Speaker 1: know how straight comedy I started? You know, I came
Speaker 1: up through the ranks of Jersey and New York Bill
Speaker 1: Bellamy h Clubs fourteen in New York and to go
Speaker 1: blues Peppermint Lounge. He started, I'm so sorry to come back.
Speaker 1: Your first show was at Uptown Comedy Club? Was that true?
Speaker 1: That was my first show ever? That's why I want
Speaker 1: to read your ship. They playing with me. My first
Speaker 1: show I ever had was an Uptown comedy club. We
Speaker 1: read that about you. I was like, holy ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't the other one a little colder. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, you know pop, come on, Steve
Speaker 1: got colder. But so yeah, I first went to the
Speaker 1: improv with my mother and my sister back when you
Speaker 1: had to draw numbers out of a hat. So we
Speaker 1: all put in numbers. None of us got it, so,
Speaker 1: you know, feeling deflated, some probably pulled my mom's aside
Speaker 1: and said, you know, they got Uptown Comedy Club at Hall,
Speaker 1: and you know, we jumped on the train went up.
Speaker 1: There was about the Cotton Club. I can't remember that year.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the numbers that when you're pulling the numbers?
Speaker 1: Was that mean? Just put drawing numbers in a hat?
Speaker 1: So open mic? Now, okay, So I didn't get that,
Speaker 1: so I said go down to the Uptown and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I really didn't even have material that I
Speaker 1: just would do, like like impression, So I did like
Speaker 1: James Brown. So you started doing impression from the game
Speaker 1: from the gate. It was my Yeah, that was my
Speaker 1: I'm eighties baby. So I grew up watching Eddie on
Speaker 1: S and Now, and uh, Eddie was doing the impression stay.
Speaker 1: My first impression ever was Louis Armstrong because my mother's
Speaker 1: a jazz blues singer. So moms and Pops will play
Speaker 1: that when Pops was getting it in. So when I
Speaker 1: heard potato but don't know what you say, Pops is
Speaker 1: blowing Mom's back out. So you know, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: an eighties baby. I grew up on TV, so Eddie
Speaker 1: was my first heavy influence in so I just went
Speaker 1: to the uptown and I did like three impressions doing
Speaker 1: Pepsi commercial squad. Uh and you know from the bug
Speaker 1: bit me, I killed it and uh I was I've
Speaker 1: been in it ever since. Man. So so um, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm jumping around, but I'm gonna get you straight to
Speaker 1: it because it was Here's what I gotta say. I
Speaker 1: look about you. Uh, you're on time and you don't
Speaker 1: like this stim for being super late, but the sticking
Speaker 1: runs like a Jewish man. I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you nothing. Um. It was different for
Speaker 1: me because when I became a CEO, I realized that
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that these people don't
Speaker 1: want is to waste your time. So I always always
Speaker 1: be on top of let me, let me, let me
Speaker 1: get back to you, right because one of the illest
Speaker 1: things that I watched you all day today, so literally
Speaker 1: you've been on my mind this whole day. Right. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the things that you that you said that
Speaker 1: was very interesting to me. You said, when the person
Speaker 1: doesn't stand up, that's supposed to be all you supposed
Speaker 1: to be one on one with the uh, the audience,
Speaker 1: and there's certain people who have help. Do you still
Speaker 1: feel that that way or or is it because the
Speaker 1: best ones don't have Because let me just tell you why.
Speaker 1: I watched like three or young DRIs. You literally have
Speaker 1: me in teests. So I'm sitting around like damn, so
Speaker 1: I could understand you're frustrating. And when I heard you
Speaker 1: say it, at first, I didn't understand until I say
Speaker 1: your ship, and I said, I can understand how you
Speaker 1: bust your ass or your ship. You you literally told
Speaker 1: a bit huh pussy tastes like cold fresh fries. Holy
Speaker 1: you want to tell somebody that, man? So I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: so you're talking about ghostwriting? Yeah yeah, because basically, so
Speaker 1: I'm I look at it like R and B right like,
Speaker 1: but then when I heard your point of view and
Speaker 1: you're saying, man, if I go out there and I'm
Speaker 1: busting my ass, like you expect that. Is that something
Speaker 1: you still feel or yeah, I mean because it's like, look,
Speaker 1: I can't and maybe the is a question for you
Speaker 1: to answer. Maybe it's different in the rap game because
Speaker 1: I know some rappers have ghost writers, but I know
Speaker 1: that I know for comedy, the best motherfucker's it is you.
Speaker 1: Because you know, every every comic wants to come out
Speaker 1: and have the joke be a Grand Slam home run.
Speaker 1: That's always the intention, but that's not always the case.
Speaker 1: From the time you say hello to the time you
Speaker 1: say good night and everything in between. We want every
Speaker 1: joke to be a Mike Tyson punch from the eighties.
Speaker 1: Everything is strong with bad intentions, not like now now,
Speaker 1: but right now. You know what we all want everything
Speaker 1: to be done. Question. But you know, as you sit
Speaker 1: there as an artist and you mode that piece of clay,
Speaker 1: you're looking for perfection. You're looking for your piece to
Speaker 1: be the Mona Lisa. And it's like if someone comes
Speaker 1: along and gives you like sometimes when you do a joke,
Speaker 1: you might not have it where it's perfec. Again, you're
Speaker 1: missing a key ingredient, whether it's a facial expression, a
Speaker 1: physical move, a one liner. And if somebody comes to
Speaker 1: you and goes, hey, do this, do this face, add
Speaker 1: this little this little thing right here, and that's the
Speaker 1: difference between where your ship was here too now here.
Speaker 1: That's you. Oh, that's them. That's the steroid. Somebody just
Speaker 1: gave you the steroid to make you do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. So for you to be able to take
Speaker 1: on your own accord and create that ship with no
Speaker 1: help to where you got a classic, that's you. You're
Speaker 1: the artist. You're the only one that did that. But
Speaker 1: if somebody gives you that key ingredient to make your
Speaker 1: gumbo the winning gumbo, is it is? It? Is it you?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Is either or wrong, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it depends on it from an artist in the individual
Speaker 1: is on the individual, you know what what you're striving for,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like when I when I
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the Kevin Hard situation, my mother
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, Richard Pryor had Paul Mooney wretchtion.
Speaker 1: Paul Mooney wrote for Richard Pryor on the Richard Pryor Show.
Speaker 1: That's a TV show. That's not stand up for a
Speaker 1: TV show. There's a lot of parts in that. It's
Speaker 1: an ensemble cast. You need writers TV. It's TV. But
Speaker 1: for stand up, that's boxing, that's you. Nobody in that
Speaker 1: ring but you. That's how it should be. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't like when you said it. I really no, No,
Speaker 1: I really suggest people go, like, look up what you
Speaker 1: do because the thing about it is like, you know,
Speaker 1: I got to look at the comments because this is
Speaker 1: what I gotta do because I'm only I'm gonna cut you.
Speaker 1: But even I even had somebody saying the YouTube comments
Speaker 1: when I said that, well, don't. If you look at
Speaker 1: the credits for Raw, it says Robert Townsend and Kei
Speaker 1: and Ivery Wains, they didn't write a stand up. They
Speaker 1: wrote the skin in the beginning, kicked him in the
Speaker 1: ding ding, thank you, that's what they did. And he
Speaker 1: wrote his own stand up. And even Paul Mooney said
Speaker 1: the interview, I don't write for Richard Genes. You watch
Speaker 1: Richard Richard. I would watch rich and go I think
Speaker 1: that's genius. Richard did not need my husband. They can't
Speaker 1: stop of that. Goddamn, that is scary. You don't think
Speaker 1: something like that. White men made noises like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the craziest lines I heard you say. It
Speaker 1: was you said everybody is a little bit racist. Now
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I wanted to correct the
Speaker 1: statement because racist implies that you have some type of power.
Speaker 1: So I want to say, everybody's prejudice. Yes, everyone's prejudice.
Speaker 1: So you look up the real definition of racism. That's
Speaker 1: a palmony. Palmony spoke on that and said, you know,
Speaker 1: when you look up racist by definition, I can't be
Speaker 1: racist because it's a power. Right. Yeah. So so when
Speaker 1: I heard you say that, and I'm so sorry to
Speaker 1: my people, but if I was, you know, go outside
Speaker 1: right now. And I was to see Asian person get
Speaker 1: to a car accident, it doesn't matter who the other person,
Speaker 1: you know what, it makes me like, I think it's
Speaker 1: that person. Like I'm just saying I've never seen the
Speaker 1: Asian um actually get into an accident, but but what
Speaker 1: I've heard, I think that they're not just traps because
Speaker 1: steral Now that's the sterotypes. But stereotypes exist because there's truth,
Speaker 1: because it's ticket. I ain't gone a single person, but
Speaker 1: there's a good amount of course. You know, I always
Speaker 1: tell people it's like, look, do all black women have
Speaker 1: fat asses. No, I've seen black women with ask this
Speaker 1: flattest note of paper. It's like it is white tigers
Speaker 1: in the wild. They do exist, but that's not the
Speaker 1: norm most black women have. The white tigers exists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I really agree with that because like, like, it's
Speaker 1: certainly the white tigers. No stereotypes. There's certain stereotypes. That's
Speaker 1: one hundreds dead on, you know what I'm saying, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: like us liking chicken like that, then really be funny
Speaker 1: without stereotypes. Let's just about blacks chicken body. People love
Speaker 1: chicken too, but it's more of a passion with us.
Speaker 1: That's why we keep hot sauce and not glove comball.
Speaker 1: That's why people don't keep it with hot sauces. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Franks. Are you a Franks guy? Kind of slicy? Catchup, nigger,
Speaker 1: step off the sauce. You have spicy white man? Mask's white.
Speaker 1: I like, I like the Spanish ship. What's the l
Speaker 1: A ship? Ships? The l A ship? Tato? No, the
Speaker 1: sounds Asian, the um is it? Oh? No, you're you're
Speaker 1: thinking of the well No, no, just say I think
Speaker 1: I know what he saw coming that cream, that clear
Speaker 1: bottom with the green tip and they just certainly your
Speaker 1: sauce it is, but it is it's l A hot
Speaker 1: sauce like only see and you live in l A
Speaker 1: like so you so you you're born in Jersey, that York,
Speaker 1: New York. Then you moved to Jersey. I didn't move
Speaker 1: to l A, Jersey, d in l A. How how like?
Speaker 1: And now as you moved to l A, you were
Speaker 1: in the business, correct, So how different was that coming
Speaker 1: from the East Coast? Like you still look like a
Speaker 1: straight up New York dude, I believe, But I moved
Speaker 1: out to l A. The sweatwrag. You always have a
Speaker 1: sweatwrag usually do gonna need the moment you see a
Speaker 1: little point. You see the little point, You're man, Craig Robinson. Um,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of New Yorkers looked down on
Speaker 1: l A. But when I moved there, I was eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: So everything became mine for the first time, first piece
Speaker 1: of pussy, first house, first call, my first independence. So
Speaker 1: l A has become my home because I grew up
Speaker 1: there in a sense of becoming a man. When I
Speaker 1: was in Jersey and New York, I was living in
Speaker 1: my mama house. So I was still under her roof
Speaker 1: and her rules and regulations. And New York we got
Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans and l A, you got Mexican Mexicans like
Speaker 1: your Mexican impression too, And listen, I love Spanish. My
Speaker 1: two kids baby mother is Puerto Rican. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: know they you know Mexican girls, they're cool, but you
Speaker 1: know the bitches be heavy with the drawing the face
Speaker 1: on what I'm saying, create your own eyebrows. Puerto Rican
Speaker 1: women and beniqus have a different kind of sex, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. My heart it's always attached to
Speaker 1: East Coast. But I love that l A man I do, man,
Speaker 1: I love l A too. Man. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: something that you said at one point that white people
Speaker 1: are actually the drink champs. Like the white people, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because like they drink different. Well, they drink to get blasted.
Speaker 1: And he tell you that day to get like they
Speaker 1: drinking with the sole purpose of being knocked the blacking
Speaker 1: out niggas. We we we we drink to get nice,
Speaker 1: you know, like we gotta stay because I got a
Speaker 1: white friend to right. But let me just tell you
Speaker 1: this is this is the one time I felt like
Speaker 1: white privilege one day we were walking and I'm walking
Speaker 1: with him obviously, and we're walking through somewhere I know
Speaker 1: where that's supposed to walk through because my police there.
Speaker 1: So the police officer says, hey, guys, you gotta get
Speaker 1: out of there. He said, what law Office fourteen forty
Speaker 1: four says, Then we didn't want I looked, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm with him. Looked at me like, I know you
Speaker 1: know better that it's a weird climbing because you see
Speaker 1: all the clips on YouTube where some brothers stand their
Speaker 1: ground with the cops and they say, they give me
Speaker 1: your badge number and they break down what I know
Speaker 1: what the law is. Hats off to your brothers, But
Speaker 1: that scout him, that's that's a braise, scary, stupid mistake.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm not trying to be you know,
Speaker 1: it's nice that you can stay the law and you're
Speaker 1: standing your round with them. Niggas will kill you, so
Speaker 1: you're playing roulette with your life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like we we've been new the law, we know
Speaker 1: the law better than anybody. But that's a dangerous game,
Speaker 1: very dangerous, very dangerous. So what what what? What? What?
Speaker 1: What is the best thing about comedy besides you releasing
Speaker 1: your pain, because that's what I start to notice. What
Speaker 1: I started to do today was obviously I started to
Speaker 1: search you, and when I search you, other names come up.
Speaker 1: So I start to look and I started to notice
Speaker 1: that this is this is it that you guys have
Speaker 1: to go through some type of dramatic thing to write
Speaker 1: something funny about it, or it just comes naturally when
Speaker 1: you're writing your material. I think the best ones that
Speaker 1: just comes naturally, you know, like anything else. I don't
Speaker 1: care what kind of artists you are, sports, rapping, singing, dancing, comedy.
Speaker 1: The best ship is organic when it flows. As Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan would say, you know, let you know, don't chase
Speaker 1: the game, let it come to you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, relax, uh, And I mean comedy is moist.
Speaker 1: Now you know we're a moist era. Well, they have
Speaker 1: to watch when they say I'm Floridian with my comedy.
Speaker 1: I stay in my ground listening and I'm playing a
Speaker 1: weird game because while everybody's looking to conform to the
Speaker 1: status quot because everybody is worried about the climate of sensitivity,
Speaker 1: I really really believe that this ship is gonna be
Speaker 1: a backlash and it's gonna come back around. And when
Speaker 1: it does, I want people to people to be able
Speaker 1: to say he never wavered. It was always him, while
Speaker 1: some people will go, well, such and such seems different
Speaker 1: now because they're trying to match the climate. And I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to watch it's gonna he said. He
Speaker 1: said he doesn't care about people's feelings, like as long
Speaker 1: as he's funny, like, he don't care like if he
Speaker 1: hurts somebody's feelings in the process, if he said, because
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's so sensitive right now, and the thing
Speaker 1: about it, you can feel like you feel like it's
Speaker 1: it handcuffs on comedy because because of that, I know
Speaker 1: you outside the box. But I think it's handcuffs on
Speaker 1: comics if you let it be, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let it be because I I just
Speaker 1: but first of all, you know, Hollywood don't like me
Speaker 1: much anyway, So what the funk I look like trying
Speaker 1: to song and dance and do jazz hands for approval
Speaker 1: I don't have to begin with. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna continue to do with how I do it and
Speaker 1: hopefully not going on what and it comes around. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: switch my ship up so i can fall in line
Speaker 1: with everybody else. That's corny to me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What he's saying, it seems like it's beyond Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It's like becoming the status quo, the politically correctness bullshit.
Speaker 1: But I listen, man, I look at it like Prohibition era.
Speaker 1: You know, this is America. Anybody that knows the history
Speaker 1: of this country. Americans are arrogant. We don't like to
Speaker 1: be told what we can and can't do. So it's
Speaker 1: like prohibition. It's like people want to drink, They're wanna
Speaker 1: have a good time. They don't want nothing to take
Speaker 1: away from having a good time. So if being not
Speaker 1: politically correct and saying wild ship because that's how you feel,
Speaker 1: provides and entertainment for an audience, people are gonna want
Speaker 1: that because they're gonna get tired of being told off
Speaker 1: political correctness and it's gonna backlash. And when it does,
Speaker 1: like I said, I want to be one of the
Speaker 1: people that they go. Also, you know, he stood his ground,
Speaker 1: he didn't fake it. I see one special you said that.
Speaker 1: You said, you said, I say the N word, I
Speaker 1: say the F word and the C words, right ship,
Speaker 1: But I'll make for the midgets revenge ship. It seemed
Speaker 1: that comedy would be the political one. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: supposedly the US stands for. You know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to say the name. A group of minds called the retards.
Speaker 1: But I was very scared. Yeah, that's the group called
Speaker 1: the total retards. No, no, the first of them. I
Speaker 1: was in a game called the Retards when I was
Speaker 1: growing up. That's a fact. So when I became famous,
Speaker 1: this is the dupest name in the world. But let
Speaker 1: me just go with it. But then I was like,
Speaker 1: damn or politically correctly And to you said, you're worried
Speaker 1: about politically correctness, I mean it was me. I was
Speaker 1: at the time. I was trying to keep some money.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I was like yeah, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, certain people are offended, but I didn't
Speaker 1: mean it how they how they was taking it. I
Speaker 1: meant it, And like, you know, we were tarding, like
Speaker 1: that retarded, this retarded, not you do a joke. I know.
Speaker 1: I seem about to be several balls about what I said.
Speaker 1: At some point, I said, uh, you know how black
Speaker 1: people keep hot sauce in their golf compartment. It's like
Speaker 1: I keep skip peinting butter in case I run into
Speaker 1: a retarded bit. SI pet Butter and Jack hard like
Speaker 1: this Pbnb and Jake's this creet taking it by retarded
Speaker 1: bit with that bigger, big, big everybody handicap what I
Speaker 1: talking about handicaps. But here's the thing, here's what's funny
Speaker 1: about it. When I've had people show up in my
Speaker 1: at my shows that are mentally challenged, retarded, they love it.
Speaker 1: They want to be made fun of, just like they
Speaker 1: don't want to be looked at his victims. Now I've
Speaker 1: had him come up. Men, they love it. But nobody
Speaker 1: wants to be in seclusion from, you know, being a
Speaker 1: part of what's deemed everybody else, you know, fun that ship.
Speaker 1: Is there such thing as going too far in comedy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like Dave Chappelle said, you don't know where the
Speaker 1: line is till you cross it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So you gotta cross it. I do a joke right
Speaker 1: now where I make fun of Dr King getting assassinated,
Speaker 1: because really he was on the balcony after he was
Speaker 1: even pussy in the motel room. I wasn't going to say,
Speaker 1: you know, but when you hear he goes old though
Speaker 1: he goes out, it's like, oh, that's historic my blackness.
Speaker 1: Try to tonight like you know, to this day, I
Speaker 1: know I'm strang changing the stuff. Let me take something.
Speaker 1: Here's what j ain't do it. He did not do it,
Speaker 1: comed O j O j did not do it. I listen,
Speaker 1: I hung out o J. I per accident murderers. I
Speaker 1: remember my purpose murderers. Oh, j Ain't got it in him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not blackness taking over, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of you black. But I swear to god,
Speaker 1: I didn't get the juice and I'll be like he
Speaker 1: but now this is one does make me come down.
Speaker 1: And he told us basically lost stop stop stop these guys.
Speaker 1: Let me spread You told him your original le murder
Speaker 1: if he said yeah, But that listen, that's the thing
Speaker 1: about old Ja. He plays on it. He definitely plays here.
Speaker 1: That's a bullship. That's a bull ship. Like like I
Speaker 1: didn't notice that. I don't think he did it. I
Speaker 1: still seriously don't think he did. Like I know, I'm
Speaker 1: just playing it he did, I would have don't think
Speaker 1: he did it, but I weally don't think Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: didn't either. I mean, why if you have to go
Speaker 1: ask you what why? What? Like? Are you really saying
Speaker 1: him and Michael didn't do it? Because that's your black
Speaker 1: I've never met Michael. I met o Ja and there
Speaker 1: were a certain things. Now, he could be a great actor.
Speaker 1: He did do neck a gun or don't understand? To me,
Speaker 1: that's a materpiecet to me, that's a masterpiece, my brother,
Speaker 1: to me, so so. But I didn't come up. You know,
Speaker 1: I know people who have that bad gene and them
Speaker 1: that bad such as a and that. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to to to look at it. It's either he's
Speaker 1: a great actor or he really don't have that in
Speaker 1: into him. Now, I can't say that he like the
Speaker 1: person that did it, good friend. Did he call him
Speaker 1: after and say I did it? And he said he
Speaker 1: held it down from there? But him actually doing it,
Speaker 1: I just can't see you think Kelly did it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have ye. Let me tell you why, Let
Speaker 1: me tell you why. I tell you what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why. I also did a record of Kelly.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm telling that you. It's the only
Speaker 1: record that I got, the Soul over ten million. I
Speaker 1: have no other records, so I keep my plaque. Okay,
Speaker 1: your plane is dirty dirty? Actually ordered another one? Is
Speaker 1: I lost it? Right? So anyway, so when I went
Speaker 1: to record to r Kelly, Um, it's actually the same
Speaker 1: story that Pump Daddy had. He was actually playing basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm in Chicago, and I'm like, I didn't feel important,
Speaker 1: Like what the funk am I waiting around watching this
Speaker 1: growing as man playing basketball? So he said, you know,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to just go to studio and later verse.
Speaker 1: So I went to the studio and in each studio
Speaker 1: I saw a bed. Mind you bunk beds? No, just
Speaker 1: a bad studios, wondering that's abnormal. Nigga say't have no
Speaker 1: beds in the studio, but they get some money. The
Speaker 1: thing was this, I just came from Bearsville, Bill. It
Speaker 1: was a place where you be secluded for two months
Speaker 1: and you had actual, um, you know, bedrooms in the
Speaker 1: studio because you slept there. So it never rung the
Speaker 1: alarm to me until I watched the documentary when I
Speaker 1: watched the documentary and he was like each girl had
Speaker 1: beds in the studio. I was like, oh, ship, I
Speaker 1: don't saw that, Like I literally saw that. But that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I believe. And I actually did see
Speaker 1: him eat somebody's ass. What's on video? That was on
Speaker 1: age girl? Yeah, didn't we all see that? Ship? I
Speaker 1: mean that ship saw that it was the first Netflix.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it like that was the first Netflix and
Speaker 1: it wasn't that. It was some Flix. But U so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe I did it. I believe that, But the
Speaker 1: juice I don't believe did it. And Mike I don't
Speaker 1: believe did it. Then you think that's my blackness a
Speaker 1: little bit. Black people we you know, we we prod
Speaker 1: to protect our all, especially why our heroes, because they
Speaker 1: tear our heroes down so much. So it's it's an instinct,
Speaker 1: an internal in thing to one heard. You said you
Speaker 1: didn't believe Bill until eight d nine. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: he did four You said, damn, Bill, you sucked up.
Speaker 1: I mean number of amount of people year player when
Speaker 1: when Bill Cosby did for black people because of the
Speaker 1: Cosby Show. It's such a you know, an accomplishment a
Speaker 1: man on a sophisticated level. So you know, again there's
Speaker 1: an automatic loyalty to that. And he predicted Brooklyn to
Speaker 1: be gentified, yes, because he was in He was in
Speaker 1: a life part of brook and no one knew what
Speaker 1: part of Brooklyn that was. People get caught up in
Speaker 1: celebrities so much that they act like celebrities are immune
Speaker 1: from having sicknesses. You know what I'm saying, You ain't
Speaker 1: got to be a regular person to have a sick
Speaker 1: fetish or to be fucked up. It's just them's got money,
Speaker 1: but they get fame. So what was he doing. He
Speaker 1: was slipping Mickey's I want you to drink listen special
Speaker 1: whatever poss on the word. Yeah, you know, it's funny
Speaker 1: about the bio situation, not to make fun of fun
Speaker 1: of it, but the thing about it was he denounced
Speaker 1: hip hop. He didn't he announced comedians who who cursed
Speaker 1: and used the N word. So it's crazy that when
Speaker 1: it came back to it that he needed his corner.
Speaker 1: Was he needed a famous female comedian told me a
Speaker 1: story that uh Bill Cosby actually tried to shut deaf
Speaker 1: comedy jam down. He tried, he talked to d L.
Speaker 1: He didn't want uh, And he had said that he
Speaker 1: did some radio interview with DL Hughley and he even
Speaker 1: had his people get ahold of the tape. But he
Speaker 1: didn't want deaf jam to happen because of all the profanity,
Speaker 1: and he was worried that black people was gonna make
Speaker 1: us look bad with all the pussy jeans. Will he's
Speaker 1: slipping negga some ship, he Hyppochristmas, he slipping something, he
Speaker 1: slipper any of it. Yeah, that's crazy. So you don't
Speaker 1: think there's no truth to that conspiracy that he was
Speaker 1: about to buy the networks. When I hear my not
Speaker 1: hear black people say that, I think that's absolutely ridiculous. Listen,
Speaker 1: people go, well, uh, he couldn't afford and he couldn't
Speaker 1: afford NBC or he was gonna listen, they weren't selling it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't enough for sale. He could have afforded it,
Speaker 1: but they're not selling that. White people are not giving
Speaker 1: away power and to be able to project how black
Speaker 1: people are seen all over the world from an image
Speaker 1: as power, and they're not gonna give him that kind
Speaker 1: of power. They let Harvey pay his way out and
Speaker 1: pay his way out. And this was ship from yet
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, and Bill said twenty years ago, and
Speaker 1: they got him doing time. They do niggas dirty or
Speaker 1: even rich, even rich, they will lock you up with
Speaker 1: your money right there. Um, comedy is such a a
Speaker 1: context for it. I didn't realize it until I'm actually
Speaker 1: going through that. You guys, Damn, they're taking the ship
Speaker 1: the rappers right now, like you think it's got bit
Speaker 1: with each other, like you know, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know about that. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's small little things here and there.
Speaker 1: But I've you know, I've never had a beef really
Speaker 1: with anybody. You know. I've been opinionated about ship and
Speaker 1: people take that as beef, but I've never officially said,
Speaker 1: oh I don't like this cat, or I have a
Speaker 1: problem with this cat. Like I said, I'm just opinionated,
Speaker 1: and and motherfucker's be so delicate now that it's almost
Speaker 1: like having an opinion means you're a hater. Not going
Speaker 1: with the grain means you're a hater. It's like, why
Speaker 1: am I wrong just because I don't agree with your
Speaker 1: assessment pensions? Sometimes but sometimes I just can't be publicly
Speaker 1: because anytime you have your voice opinion publicly, and a
Speaker 1: person can publicly react to that opinion, and then it
Speaker 1: just keeps going on. Sometimes, if I have something bad
Speaker 1: to say about something, or if I don't like something
Speaker 1: about somebody, I just don't say it because I know
Speaker 1: they're gonna take it as I'm hating. As opposed to
Speaker 1: happen that opinion. I know, but I think that's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that you should be you have to shun your thoughts
Speaker 1: because you're worried about being labeled a hater. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the most overused words in
Speaker 1: the world. It's like, you know, if it be one thing,
Speaker 1: if I said, oh, this person is is garbage as
Speaker 1: a comedian. And again I've never said that about anybody
Speaker 1: that I've been accused of saying that about. I just
Speaker 1: had a difference of opinion, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I can recognize the genius at the comic, but
Speaker 1: he don't necessarily make me laugh. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: a bad comic. He just don't do it for me.
Speaker 1: But I see the genius. I see the genius said it.
Speaker 1: You know, So how about you, Because you've heard your
Speaker 1: opinions on people getting goals goales written for But how
Speaker 1: about you have people come to you and say, you're Arey,
Speaker 1: I want you to write this for me. I want
Speaker 1: you to help out with this and then with your
Speaker 1: stance on that yeah towards that year, and I say no,
Speaker 1: yeah man, because I can't be your voice, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Plus for me to write for you,
Speaker 1: I'm too busy going to be thinking about how I
Speaker 1: would do it, to make it as funny as it
Speaker 1: could be, and what I might give it you might
Speaker 1: not be comfortable with, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: can make a suggestion and if you follow it, that's
Speaker 1: that's up. But okay, but if the person comes to
Speaker 1: you for movies, but stand up. You wanted to come
Speaker 1: from the yeah man, because again, like I said, my
Speaker 1: my my heroes in life Michael Jordan's Ali Tyson, and
Speaker 1: I try to approach my comedy like Tyson in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I want, like every joke to try
Speaker 1: to knock your head into the nose bleeds. You know.
Speaker 1: I don't want no soft spots in my set. Like
Speaker 1: when I look at some of the greatest rappers you know,
Speaker 1: you buy a NAS album, a jay Z album, a
Speaker 1: Jadakiss album. From track one to two, you might get
Speaker 1: one tracks or two that you go all right, but
Speaker 1: the rest you're like, yo, there's no weak spots. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to be one of these comics who
Speaker 1: come out do an hour. You go, fifteen minutes was great,
Speaker 1: the other ten and then the next five is kind
Speaker 1: of strong. I want from Hello to good night for
Speaker 1: you to be checking your tear ducks and you're getting
Speaker 1: to have work out. I'm trying to destroy it. You
Speaker 1: was killing this. So let me ask you what are
Speaker 1: you like more? Being on film like like according like
Speaker 1: movies or things like that, all being on standard, you know,
Speaker 1: they all they all got they they blessing and they curse. Uh.
Speaker 1: From a stand up, from an ego standpoint, you know,
Speaker 1: nothing is more gratifying than being a comedian. Because I
Speaker 1: saw your producer to writer director you just start. You
Speaker 1: do a movie and a TV show. Them is the
Speaker 1: writer's words. Sometimes it's the director's vision that they they
Speaker 1: give you in terms of direction. Sometimes it's a producer's call.
Speaker 1: You know, So it ain't all you, which can be
Speaker 1: a good thing too because it's like a team sport.
Speaker 1: You're playing off your man and if you've got a
Speaker 1: good teammate who knows how to hit you with the
Speaker 1: no look or the whip whop, you know, and then
Speaker 1: make your game better. Nothing better than doing a scene
Speaker 1: with an actor and this motherfucker's so tight. You gotta
Speaker 1: tighten up your game. So now you're not You're on
Speaker 1: the same team, but you're competing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because he's like, Okay, I gotta step my ship up
Speaker 1: because this nig is a beast with stand up is
Speaker 1: you were alone? Man rises rise and fail? You know
Speaker 1: you alone? Did you feel that? Mad TV? Like? What
Speaker 1: was that? Absolutely? You know the crew I had again,
Speaker 1: if and put it in basketball terms, we was like
Speaker 1: a championship team. You know, we knew we we knew
Speaker 1: where we had to be, We knew each other's weaknesses,
Speaker 1: each other's good spots, we knew where the person like
Speaker 1: the ball. So we just knew how to playoff of
Speaker 1: each other in such a strong way that it made
Speaker 1: for a great show. Unfortunately, you know, we wasn't Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. That was like you just just like you're right,
Speaker 1: we were the competition. But but The fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is, no matter how good we were, it's like
Speaker 1: you know the NFL versus CFL. You know, Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 1: this Big Leagues, that's that's NFL man and and and
Speaker 1: you know the people that watched us would say, you
Speaker 1: guys way better than them. But we ain't them. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They was the bully on the block,
Speaker 1: no matter how bad they were. Let let me pick
Speaker 1: up to sean paper's real quickly smoking these out and
Speaker 1: I ain't even smoking. You're not doing it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask because I'll have something special for you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did the smoke box would be real twice and
Speaker 1: I chapped out. Okay, yeah, no, no, don't, but let
Speaker 1: me pick up to be real, um, because the smoke
Speaker 1: box is very ill. But I'm gonna be honest. I
Speaker 1: don't like hot boxing. Even when I'm in my whip
Speaker 1: and I smoke, I gotta roll the riddle down a
Speaker 1: little bit. So pick him up and he does that
Speaker 1: ship every motherfucking day, you know what I'm saying, every
Speaker 1: motherfucking day. So one thing you said, uh you quoted
Speaker 1: as statistics. You said Obama had nineties seven sent of
Speaker 1: the black vote. Yeah, I didn't know that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty much up there. It's pretty much all
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, the ones who didn't vote for him
Speaker 1: was the cool niggas people. I just didn't vote. Who know,
Speaker 1: it's cool niggas. If he had the cool niggas too,
Speaker 1: he'd have been at a hunt. But that's crazy. That's crazy, man. Um.
Speaker 1: And you also said you don't smoke weed with Asians. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's specific as that. Let me tell you something. Some
Speaker 1: of that ship is you know, it's entertainment. I would
Speaker 1: smoke your MySpace paper, I would smoke weed with Asians.
Speaker 1: But the punchline lies in the stereotype, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because you know, I don't want to smoke
Speaker 1: with somebody it looks like they did and blow my
Speaker 1: eye and their eyes the three quarters closed. So now, um,
Speaker 1: I've heard you say this before, and I'm very very
Speaker 1: curious to to actually hear you say this in person.
Speaker 1: You said that you you're a black ball at one point,
Speaker 1: I still do. Okay, now for people who's you know,
Speaker 1: who's not aware of what black ball means? Right, Um,
Speaker 1: can you describe with black ball is? And then not
Speaker 1: only that, say why you felt you will you will
Speaker 1: be a black ball. Uh. You know, black ball is
Speaker 1: when they put you in the book. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Where it's like, you know, it don't matter
Speaker 1: how talented you off you in the book, They're not
Speaker 1: fucking with you. Uh. And listen, do I do? I
Speaker 1: technically know for a fact that I am, of course
Speaker 1: not um And every now and then, you know, I
Speaker 1: book a job here and there, so maybe I'm not.
Speaker 1: But but I don't think I'm on the top of
Speaker 1: the list when it comes time to cast for certain
Speaker 1: projects or whatever project. Um. And that's partly because you know, again,
Speaker 1: I'm again, I'm opinionated, man, and I tend not to
Speaker 1: hold back. And you know I'm not out here trying
Speaker 1: to maliciously say things for effect. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: how I feel, telling you what I think, and giving
Speaker 1: it to you honestly. And uh. And I talked a
Speaker 1: lot about racing interviews, you know, when I've done a
Speaker 1: lot of my lad TV interviews. The thing I said
Speaker 1: about the white people in the Jedi mind trick. You know,
Speaker 1: when you read the comments white folks, the Maynaise people
Speaker 1: don't be happy. Man. You know what I mean because
Speaker 1: that that that truth is tough. But what was it
Speaker 1: a specific moment where he was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm black ball from from this moment. Like, no,
Speaker 1: not really a specific moment. It's just it's just a
Speaker 1: vibe that I feel, you know. Well, actually here let
Speaker 1: me tell you, Uh, Kevin Hard I think he still
Speaker 1: has a cartoon coming out where you know, he that
Speaker 1: that thing in his joke where goes alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: And in the cartoon, auditioned for the role of his dad,
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, Kevin has his own voice.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna do it like himself. And I put
Speaker 1: a little flavor into what my interpretation of what his
Speaker 1: dad would be. And uh, I had hosted Behavior and
Speaker 1: Point Awards I think was last year. I think you
Speaker 1: hosted Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, is that a porn So
Speaker 1: we had a pre party in l A. And I
Speaker 1: didn't get chosen for that though. They just called they
Speaker 1: called my agent him was like, we want him to
Speaker 1: to host the Point of Work ship. Yeah. He having
Speaker 1: top show musical guests, I mean one a huge production. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was one of the one that I did. But
Speaker 1: at the at the at the pre porn party. My
Speaker 1: manager came up to me, was like, I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you the cartoon you auditioned for. Kevin wanted you, everybody
Speaker 1: wanted you. You. You was on the you know, fourth
Speaker 1: and goal. And then the president of Fox said, who oh,
Speaker 1: not that guy. Yeah, so you know, and Kevin, as
Speaker 1: powerful as he is, he can't override the head of Fox.
Speaker 1: So the president was just no, not that guy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So yeah, and why would you
Speaker 1: think that would come from? Like because again, ship did
Speaker 1: I say, because you're having like a personal relationship when
Speaker 1: you told him you can't what you said that president
Speaker 1: of No, that would be Dave Chappelle's been keeping it
Speaker 1: real wrong. Um no, man, I just again, when you look,
Speaker 1: you could go through my whole lad TV catalog. You
Speaker 1: could have said anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: and even on social media, you know, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get better with it, but when I read comments
Speaker 1: about race and white people say certain things that rubbed
Speaker 1: me wrong or it's just so fucking outlandish, you know,
Speaker 1: I go at him, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: even when when when black people anybody racist, far as
Speaker 1: I can, sir, says something wild about me. Instead of
Speaker 1: just going ha, let me ignore it. I turned in
Speaker 1: the scar faced balcony scene. Maybe that's a detriment, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I need to stop doing that. But you've you've
Speaker 1: been in big productions like Mad TV to Jerry mguire. Um,
Speaker 1: where was the moment where you thought that, you know what,
Speaker 1: these people are leaning on me and they don't want
Speaker 1: to see me succeed? And is that when you went
Speaker 1: stronger towards stand up because they can't continue to stand? Well? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, but stand up was the first thing that
Speaker 1: was the bread and butter, so that that was always
Speaker 1: gonna come first. Um. And again that's why I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's tricky. Maybe I got this boogeyman imagination going on
Speaker 1: because again there's not any one specific thing where there's
Speaker 1: nothing I can point to and go for sure. I
Speaker 1: know that's the case, But my spiky sense is tingling,
Speaker 1: and I just something just feels, you know, because for
Speaker 1: me to have been in this game for as long
Speaker 1: as I've been and for me and I don't want
Speaker 1: to come off like I'm you know, on some cocky ship,
Speaker 1: but for me to bring it the way I've brought it.
Speaker 1: There's no fucking reason why I shouldn't be bigger than
Speaker 1: what I am. And I know that sounds vain, but
Speaker 1: I don't mind saying that because I'm gonna wrap. I wish,
Speaker 1: I'm excited and it's still be acceptable. Only rappers have
Speaker 1: a green light to say I'm the best, and you
Speaker 1: know it, flies don't do that. No, I mean, um um.
Speaker 1: Comedy is slowly but surely reminded me more and more
Speaker 1: of hip hop every day because there's certain components that
Speaker 1: very It's very like before it wasn't hold on, hold
Speaker 1: on that, hold on that listen me trying to get drunk.
Speaker 1: Hold on now you start with me too? What the
Speaker 1: me too? Yeah? But so um. But one thing, I
Speaker 1: went to my app show one night and he invited me,
Speaker 1: so we went back there. We bought a couple of
Speaker 1: bottles in the backstage, and the one thing that I
Speaker 1: did notice is that you guys actually staying. You guys
Speaker 1: own rooms. I don't, okay, I see and this, this,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm telling you like, I'm I'm just
Speaker 1: cut different, you know what I'm saying. Like, and what's
Speaker 1: so funny is the industry, however, they see me. Whatever
Speaker 1: that perception is anybody outside of that that's not in
Speaker 1: the Hollywood world, like regular Joe blows will tell you
Speaker 1: I'm the coolest, most humble nick in the world. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not going to the comedy club and hiding out
Speaker 1: in the green room until its showtime, when you're gonna
Speaker 1: see me amongst the people. Part of the reason that
Speaker 1: it's it's strategic. I'm chasing the joint. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the crowd going my fucking the third road need to
Speaker 1: be funked with because of that outfit. This is a
Speaker 1: potential problem. I gotta have five jokes because he's feeling brave.
Speaker 1: I'm watching and can you do that? Let's plus plus,
Speaker 1: I want to send out the signal to the crowd
Speaker 1: that he's not like everybody else because they know most
Speaker 1: people stay in the green room and keep the fans
Speaker 1: at bay, and it gives off a vibe of not
Speaker 1: that I'm better than you, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So I want them to feel whatn't. So then on
Speaker 1: top of that, if the jokes can match that, now
Speaker 1: they they love you. You gotta eating out the palmitty
Speaker 1: your hand because they're going not only the motherfucking super cool.
Speaker 1: But he's funny as a motherfucker, So the more reason
Speaker 1: I can get them to invest in me. It's a wind. Now,
Speaker 1: that's one thing, man. I kid you now, I was
Speaker 1: going through as much as your discography as much as
Speaker 1: I can and um, the movies you're you're you're hilarious.
Speaker 1: But I can tell one million percent no, they cannot
Speaker 1: funk with you on that stage. Like there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of people like the way your timing, the way
Speaker 1: you just sit around, like you can tell you're comfortable
Speaker 1: and that you're like on the stage, like how I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable on the toilet. I'm just I'm just ill on
Speaker 1: the toilet, Like I'm like a one toilet, Like I'm
Speaker 1: a good shooter, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
Speaker 1: you're like you're like you like you get on and
Speaker 1: you're like you're really is that with you? Is that
Speaker 1: something that's inspires you the crowd to play off the crowd? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean listen, one once upon a time ago, my
Speaker 1: crowd work was none. Only to say I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: I stepped to the script. You know, every every comics
Speaker 1: jokes is like the playbook I wouldn't go outside to play.
Speaker 1: I'm not calling the auto, but uh, if you really
Speaker 1: want to be great, you should be able to do
Speaker 1: a little bit of all improv political humor, race humor.
Speaker 1: If you're getting my impressions, it's a specific thing, but
Speaker 1: you should. You should be able to have every facet
Speaker 1: of your game type. And big shout out to Joe
Speaker 1: Tory and D. L. Hughley because they were two of
Speaker 1: the masters of crowd work. Joe each asked a lot Joe.
Speaker 1: I even heard recently where Joe did some ship that
Speaker 1: even made me go, I don't know if I do that.
Speaker 1: He was on stage and somebody was sucking up and
Speaker 1: he told he made a joke about their mother, and
Speaker 1: then the person said got mad, said a man, don't
Speaker 1: talk about my mother, my mother dad. He said, well,
Speaker 1: then I'll dig the bit up and find something to
Speaker 1: joke about it. He was a little too far, Like
Speaker 1: I said, you don't know what the line is to you.
Speaker 1: That's true, but listen, I've had motherfucker's want to fight me.
Speaker 1: You're a good comment. Can less motherfucker want to throw
Speaker 1: hands with you. I've had people waiting wait for me
Speaker 1: after one Nigga in Orlando had on a sleeveless that
Speaker 1: the vest, and I was like, Nigga, we're the last
Speaker 1: time you've seen the Nigga rock dinner much less sleeveless.
Speaker 1: So I just kept making jokes about his sleeveless vest,
Speaker 1: and finally he got mad towards every the show and
Speaker 1: got up saying, fucking new you, I'll be I'll be black.
Speaker 1: I said, what you're gonna do, come back and beat
Speaker 1: people the sleeves I got on that stage. The only
Speaker 1: thing stopped him from getting to me was a security
Speaker 1: cause he was talking to security and once he's seen
Speaker 1: me come out to come sell my merch, he rushed
Speaker 1: that security grabbed him up with yeah, man, you touched nerves.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you, we don't know if you
Speaker 1: know well our shows about our shows about giving people
Speaker 1: their flowers when they can smell them. So many people
Speaker 1: want to say how great you are, you pass away,
Speaker 1: you get sick, or you something. We don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. We want to tell you that in your face,
Speaker 1: face to face, and tell you you know you're hilarious.
Speaker 1: You do what you bring to this world, we appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and we want to say that we salute ship. Why
Speaker 1: you head a little man and it's called my pink bump. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go. I don't like it. I don't miss that's
Speaker 1: it at all. Yeah, that's that's like a compliment. That's
Speaker 1: Aminese secret. That's like a compliment. Hell so we do
Speaker 1: this with all guests because you know what, you know
Speaker 1: what the crazy thing is calling down offishal shout out
Speaker 1: the card down official. The other posted super doube. When
Speaker 1: he posted man, he posted, uh, a picture of the
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones and I think the guy that make Jack
Speaker 1: make Jack, he was he part of the Rolling Stones. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he posted a picture that Mick Jack and said,
Speaker 1: look he's on the road with the Rolling Stones. To
Speaker 1: think Mick Jack is like seventy years old. So he
Speaker 1: said that the older McJagger got, the more revered he
Speaker 1: became in his community. The older was crazy that, he said.
Speaker 1: The shows show the older wee get, the more that
Speaker 1: they say were washed up or they say, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's funked up in our community. So we started
Speaker 1: this show to say, you know what, we don't want
Speaker 1: to interview the new guys. You know who's the one
Speaker 1: saying we watched we watched up. Who's saying that, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's our it's our it's our community. It's that
Speaker 1: So you just you mean regular Joe's within the community,
Speaker 1: make stream. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just
Speaker 1: when you were in this business for more than twelve years,
Speaker 1: people just feel like they're used to you, so you're
Speaker 1: just supposed to be. They don't fuck your gift no more.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, I'm talking about I'm telling ourselves,
Speaker 1: I'm clearing you know, they just at first, when you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, your first couple of years, you
Speaker 1: come out, you're, you're, you're, You're a gift, and then
Speaker 1: after a while they see you. It happens when artists,
Speaker 1: happens when commedities happens with boxes, and we want to
Speaker 1: change that narrative. So I want to pick up the
Speaker 1: carton now official for pointing that out, pointing about what
Speaker 1: we were doing and saying like this is the reason
Speaker 1: why I love Drink Chance because drink champions giving people
Speaker 1: their flowers now, and I think that that's what we
Speaker 1: should do. I think it takes nothing away from me
Speaker 1: for to tell you how dope I think you are,
Speaker 1: how funny I think you are, how ill I think
Speaker 1: you are. I don't think it takes nothing away from me.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think it adds on to me as
Speaker 1: a man. I think you should clap for that guy there.
Speaker 1: I think an apps on to me as a man,
Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not insecure and letting the next
Speaker 1: person know that you're great. And guess what, I'm inspired
Speaker 1: by your greatness, like you know what, I'm let's tell
Speaker 1: you the truth, like I always knew you was funny,
Speaker 1: but today, like I got to, I got to analyze
Speaker 1: because when I'm about to interview somebody, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to know everything. So I'm watching and I'm
Speaker 1: like this one like you made tears come up my eyes.
Speaker 1: You know what? Fox me up man and and I've
Speaker 1: been doing this thirty years, and I guess my boy
Speaker 1: always tell me how I should be used to it
Speaker 1: and not see myself the way I see it. But
Speaker 1: I remember when I first met you, waits used to
Speaker 1: it to that point, agether, So I just like how
Speaker 1: most people see me from a revered standpoint, It's hard
Speaker 1: for me to see myself as that. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I still look at myself as like
Speaker 1: I let me put it like this, like when I
Speaker 1: first met you, I don't know if you remember where
Speaker 1: we first met. Okay, Miami Airport and and uh, you
Speaker 1: knew me. You saw me, he gave me love. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship my nigga, you need to do
Speaker 1: my podcasting. And I'm trying to keep my poker face,
Speaker 1: but I'm going fucking me. I grew up with this nigger.
Speaker 1: So but my point is, my point is when I
Speaker 1: run into celebrities that know me, oh no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bit me. When I run into celebrities that know me, Um,
Speaker 1: I know, I know them, I grew up on them.
Speaker 1: I'm expected to know them. I don't expect my because
Speaker 1: you know me. And I'm finding out as I meet
Speaker 1: these motherckers they not only know me, but it's almost
Speaker 1: like they're not just going, hey, how you doing, They're
Speaker 1: going you And it fucks me up because I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is surreal. So you know, you know why can
Speaker 1: certain people are are good at certain things, Like you're
Speaker 1: actually talent. What I mean by that is you're talented,
Speaker 1: like you know how to act, but you know how
Speaker 1: to be a comedian and that's that's like one of
Speaker 1: my friends. Um, his name is Jack Thriller. Right, we
Speaker 1: had Jack Teller in the podcast. He was hilarious. But
Speaker 1: what happened was um him and to change. Had had
Speaker 1: a little problem, right. I didn't think the problem was
Speaker 1: was anything. So I tried to FaceTime to change. What
Speaker 1: I didn't know was I did not dress FaceTime my
Speaker 1: press regular call. So I'm like, the dude change, I'm like, yo, um,
Speaker 1: you know Jack Thriller said you a bit chas Nicks.
Speaker 1: Don't think he's so like just Jack Dillers right there.
Speaker 1: So to change, to change, I had I'm drunk at
Speaker 1: the time. You know, we're not fake drinking. Right back
Speaker 1: some more drinking, so we're not We're not fake drinking here.
Speaker 1: So what happens is to change his Jack Drugger and
Speaker 1: he just loses his mind. He goes telling him I
Speaker 1: had never I never heard nobody say this. He said,
Speaker 1: tell him his mama pussy, like I've never heard of
Speaker 1: terrible man. He called his mama pussy. So anyway, Jack
Speaker 1: Jackie acted back and recipes of combat Jack to combat Jack. Well,
Speaker 1: Jackie acted back and Jack got gamester back with two change.
Speaker 1: But he was being playful. No, not not at first
Speaker 1: at first. When when when when the two change said
Speaker 1: your mama pussy? Jack was seriously took it seriously. Guys
Speaker 1: he should because nobody mama should be pussy. But absolutely.
Speaker 1: But I remember Jack coming to me and saying to me, yo, nori,
Speaker 1: why did you do that? Why did you set me up?
Speaker 1: And I said, one, I didn't set you up. I
Speaker 1: thought I was. You know, it's a little obniviated. I
Speaker 1: thought I was on facebo. Two. I did not enjoy
Speaker 1: him jumping out of his comedian I feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like the comedian should. But when he walked out,
Speaker 1: was he acting or not? He was serious? He was serious,
Speaker 1: he would he told I set him up, and I
Speaker 1: still to this day thought he was acting. No, No,
Speaker 1: he fell out. So that's so. So that's so I've
Speaker 1: bring that up to say, now I told this to Jack,
Speaker 1: so I don't want it to seem like beause you know,
Speaker 1: Jack is my friends now. He's a great dude, right,
Speaker 1: and I spoke to him the other day, so I
Speaker 1: told him. The difference between him and when we interviewed
Speaker 1: Marlon Wayne's was we interviewed all the ways and in
Speaker 1: the middle of our interview, the A c just break, right,
Speaker 1: So let just break and we have more. Nigga's there right,
Speaker 1: so you know how nigga hate you heard you know Nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it now. So we had nig So now
Speaker 1: Mollan is sweating like a motherfucker. But we we gotta
Speaker 1: play all cool. We gotta act like we've been doing this.
Speaker 1: So Mallon at no point broke his comedians like he
Speaker 1: he stayed you know what I'm trying to say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do like he stayed in character like at all,
Speaker 1: And to me, that's what a real comedian is. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Am I bugging because I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not twenty four hours of rapper. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: the truth. I think. Listen, I don't again, this is
Speaker 1: where I need to tread likely because based on certain
Speaker 1: things I would naturally say, it will be perceived. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, some dudes are characters because that's their stick.
Speaker 1: It's their stick. I think. I think some of the
Speaker 1: greatest comedians don't do stick. They're funny naturally like gimmick.
Speaker 1: And when you front naturally, you don't have to turn it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do a stick it. It comes
Speaker 1: when you wanted to come. It comes when it needs
Speaker 1: to come. You know, I think if I had to
Speaker 1: sit here and do the aries the funny guy the
Speaker 1: entire way, well then how do we know who you are?
Speaker 1: You're not showing us who you are. You're showing us
Speaker 1: you your stand up. You know, why does it? You know,
Speaker 1: let me see if you have insight. D know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's real deep. I'm listen. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say no name. But you know, some comics talent doesn't
Speaker 1: match their arrogance. Like you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: you you there's some comics who will come in the
Speaker 1: club with dark shades on them. They give specific orders
Speaker 1: to the white staff. Don't look him in the eye,
Speaker 1: don't talk to him, and they have a swagger like
Speaker 1: they ship, don't stink, And it's like, if you're going
Speaker 1: to do that, you gotta be Dave Chappelle. Come look
Speaker 1: at like Ernie Murphy. But they sound like POLYI Shaw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like, Ni, your talent doesn't match. He's never been
Speaker 1: funny to me. I'm just the white guy, right, I
Speaker 1: listened for the record. I don't think any I don't
Speaker 1: think any comic shouldn't walk around with that much bravado.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to, you gotta be a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Patriseo Neil. He's my ONK. So you
Speaker 1: know he's in show you because I don't want to
Speaker 1: think he goes right in my interview right now, keeps
Speaker 1: saying my next question. Everything. He keeps saying, you get
Speaker 1: your next question before you get to your next question.
Speaker 1: Let me just go back for a second, like when
Speaker 1: I told you how you and I met. And this
Speaker 1: is why I say this ship is so surreal to me.
Speaker 1: I'm telling my NA story and I think nas is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest rappers of all time, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's when I get into these debates with these
Speaker 1: young kids about rap who can't wrap. To begin with this,
Speaker 1: Niger made a song called Rewind He right backwards nigga.
Speaker 1: I was smoking l you know how hard it is
Speaker 1: for me to right forward this nigga And it was
Speaker 1: a beast. So I'm in the Last Factory one night
Speaker 1: and I'm up the balcony levels two levels, and I
Speaker 1: see Palise and this is when him and Calie was married.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was there, but I've seen Kalie
Speaker 1: and I go, Kalie, I just want to tell you,
Speaker 1: can you please tell your husband? I think this nigga
Speaker 1: is one of the She stopped me. She goes, he's
Speaker 1: downstairs in the booth. He loves you. So I go
Speaker 1: down there and I think I called my man over here.
Speaker 1: I even my boy who was here with me. Now
Speaker 1: when it happened. I he was sitting in the booth
Speaker 1: like this with a with a heney on the table.
Speaker 1: He was showing like this. So I walk up to him.
Speaker 1: I extend my hand. I go, yo, Nas, I just
Speaker 1: gotta tell. He goes yo, I love you God, that nigga.
Speaker 1: He goes Joe. I watch you all the time. You
Speaker 1: that nigga God. I said, thank you, nas nigga. I
Speaker 1: went outside and was straight bit my nigga like like.
Speaker 1: So that's jo was. That was a moment for me.
Speaker 1: But treat so Nil. You're holding plank blasses with you.
Speaker 1: But on break later, okay, i' work that way. Wanna
Speaker 1: look at Stoll. You just turned into a white flterurn.
Speaker 1: You treat so then, yeah, one of the most genius
Speaker 1: comedians out there. Yeah, a good my man. When he
Speaker 1: was alive, I had just started to lose weight that
Speaker 1: I went up interview with Shade before and leaving at
Speaker 1: the excuse me. It was even that Power one on
Speaker 1: five and I did an interviews on them. He had
Speaker 1: seen me like six months prior to that. He seed
Speaker 1: me like big boy. He was like, yo, so how
Speaker 1: did you do this? I gave my number and again
Speaker 1: he's another comedian. He would just talk to me and
Speaker 1: he would just rank on me like he was just
Speaker 1: like the nigga. Never stopped me in the comediany like
Speaker 1: nigga listened. So you're telling me when you go home,
Speaker 1: you ain't like people like I'm just saying that was
Speaker 1: a funny, dude. Let me man. I always said, there's
Speaker 1: only three comics I would be nervous to follow. I'll
Speaker 1: follow anybody, but the three niggers who always would give
Speaker 1: me if I had to follow him, I'm miss Patrese,
Speaker 1: Dave and Tommy Davidson. Tommy, Now you're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: talent And we did the shack Sawstar comedy jam and
Speaker 1: Cedric kind of gave him a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: Because he was like, you know, for for the Spanish
Speaker 1: bros that didn't understood your Spanish. But that was nice
Speaker 1: for the Spanish bros. Meaning a lot of black people
Speaker 1: didn't get it. When Tommy does the bit when he
Speaker 1: imitates uh Telemundo and Spanish and he speaks Spanish and
Speaker 1: sings that creatively is one of the greatest bits because
Speaker 1: to pull that off, that's talent. You gotta be able
Speaker 1: to speak fluently in a different language and make it funny.
Speaker 1: And if you go back when Tommy, I'll forget what
Speaker 1: special he did. But he didn't think about square dancing
Speaker 1: and he did the band joined the didn't think his
Speaker 1: energy level. He's a stick of dynamite. And for him
Speaker 1: to be that energetic and come up with them kind
Speaker 1: of bits, Tommy's a bad motherfucker. Tommy David who Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle and Patrese, Yeah, he was. He was so special.
Speaker 1: Patrese would say things and you will go, how I
Speaker 1: would have How would have I would have someone even
Speaker 1: think of that? Like he was on the Opie and
Speaker 1: Anthony Show one time and a black stripper was going
Speaker 1: at it with him, and you know how you know,
Speaker 1: girls before they get all these implants, how titties were
Speaker 1: really flat, saggy and long, but just flash. And he
Speaker 1: told this bit your titties looked like Bible sling shots.
Speaker 1: Fucking you know what that is the stick with the
Speaker 1: rubber band and the titties was hanging like the rubber
Speaker 1: band and the whole Bible sling shot. This thing he
Speaker 1: would come up with ship there was just incredible, incredible,
Speaker 1: and his was his honesty. They were talking about the
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods thing when Tiger got in trouble and they
Speaker 1: had a psychiatrist on the phone like a real doctor,
Speaker 1: and at one point he kept going, uh, miss miss,
Speaker 1: and she stopped him and she goes, patrese, please don't
Speaker 1: call me miss, call me ma'am or doctor. And there
Speaker 1: was a nice to second pregnant pause and patrise win
Speaker 1: whatever bitch come list just like that kind of Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a hat temper man as a comedian, right, You see,
Speaker 1: you see information in this world some that's probably not funny.
Speaker 1: How do you guys like sitting there like like I
Speaker 1: see comedians make jokes about the world trade and and
Speaker 1: make it make fun um like, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you go about a tragic situation and turning it
Speaker 1: and flipping it into something funny. Hot timing, it's the
Speaker 1: right time. There's such a thing as too soon too soon,
Speaker 1: but yeah, timing. After a certain amount of time goes by,
Speaker 1: anything can be Sometimes it might be too soon. But
Speaker 1: here's the funny thing. Going back to my doctor King joke.
Speaker 1: When I do the joke and I say the punch
Speaker 1: sign about uh doctor King getting shot on the balcony,
Speaker 1: the audience goes oh, and I go, fuck, y'all, too soon,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you gotta address the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room. How the fun is that? Too soon? Yeah? Uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's bring your yomie. Yeah, and I'm think gonna
Speaker 1: set them up right so we can step outside right here,
Speaker 1: take a big yeah. So we were back then we're back. Okay,
Speaker 1: my man, I'm so sorry if you do. Steinberg man,
Speaker 1: I'm just how my areas opener. I've been traveling with
Speaker 1: him for about two years and we do a podcast
Speaker 1: together in the podcast spears in Steinberg a K eight
Speaker 1: jew in the Jerk ser Stinberg. Okay, definitely definitely what
Speaker 1: y'all what y'all saying on the podcast, what's going on
Speaker 1: in the podcast Everything Raw Uncut, Yo, Yo, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: doing the yaloe may go to your plan. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't film that ship, so no one knows what's going on.
Speaker 1: Just skiing, help y'all out that we're figured out. I
Speaker 1: was figuring out. So okay, that's dope, man, So okay,
Speaker 1: now I'll be in that. Explain your relationship with comedy,
Speaker 1: my relationship with comedy. I failed in everything else, and
Speaker 1: comedy is the only thing that's ever made me happy. Yeah, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: and it's the only thing that uh like everything that
Speaker 1: I thought I could say. And honestly, I just never
Speaker 1: This is my first time that I ever had felt
Speaker 1: like I was actually accomplishing something in my life. And
Speaker 1: I didn't start doing this until I was forty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to the comedy to your fort I went
Speaker 1: home and told my kids. So I went home and
Speaker 1: told my kids at forty two, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this ship for real. I'm gonna really go out
Speaker 1: of the stand up. Yeah. And my kids just said, Dad, like,
Speaker 1: we like food and ship, And what did you do before?
Speaker 1: I did everything before? Honestly, I used to honestly back
Speaker 1: in uh in the late eighties. I mean I sold weed.
Speaker 1: I sold weed for I used to take I used
Speaker 1: to take weed from from from the eight to the
Speaker 1: two thousand. Sometimes I might have spend a little time
Speaker 1: in jail because so that that took some time. And
Speaker 1: then I got married, run it back over the weed
Speaker 1: and went to marriage morning. Were you so coke? You's
Speaker 1: so caught for it? Like a minute, it was like
Speaker 1: a monty, But I did. I only so coke because
Speaker 1: I want to coke. So you you with your own product. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was before Biggie, so you would have been
Speaker 1: around earlier. You have told me something black guy, white guy,
Speaker 1: blite guy stowing his own coke dube. That's why everybody
Speaker 1: who everybody knows anything about codes how this works when
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of money, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: What you do is you just take an a ball
Speaker 1: and you take out a half a gram for yourself.
Speaker 1: You crush an asper and you put that in there.
Speaker 1: You sell the other three grams to coke, and you
Speaker 1: keep a half a gram for yourself or somebody anywhow
Speaker 1: the nigga don't know nothing about it. So y'all see
Speaker 1: America don't be putting that shot on us. I just
Speaker 1: broke down and ate ball and some cope as for him, Asterka,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what you were supposed to do
Speaker 1: that when you started as him with the code, mixed
Speaker 1: them with the code, someone gets a headache, I've already
Speaker 1: taken care of their problems. Meanwhile, I use words like
Speaker 1: expeditious you get high and not have a headache at
Speaker 1: the same same time. But no, I only did that.
Speaker 1: I did that seriously a couple of times, you know.
Speaker 1: I did a few times. No longer that I did
Speaker 1: that though, just to just to really just to have
Speaker 1: my own cope. But when I met the coke dudes,
Speaker 1: they actually got me into the weed. And I was
Speaker 1: from Arizona and I was, now everybody's gonna know this.
Speaker 1: I went to you, I went to the U of A,
Speaker 1: and I went to Pima Community College. You're gonna hear
Speaker 1: me cough you Okay, So how was it going. I
Speaker 1: was there and I met a bunch of kids to
Speaker 1: go to college, and they want we taken back to
Speaker 1: like you know, your kids sat. I was to make
Speaker 1: sure yeah no no, no, no, no, no, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I was nineteen years old. So I met
Speaker 1: people who wanted weed to go back there. So and
Speaker 1: I knew all these guys from the coke, but now
Speaker 1: everybody want to get out of coke because it was
Speaker 1: dangerous and weed was easy at the time. So we
Speaker 1: just took weed. Uh, we bought like we'd buy a
Speaker 1: trash compactor and then you fill it with weed and
Speaker 1: you'd make twenty five to forty pound blocks and then
Speaker 1: you throw them in your suitcase. But you can't do anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this to advocate. If you're do,
Speaker 1: I want to send some weed back home. And then
Speaker 1: you know that if you go to the airport right
Speaker 1: now with weed in your suitcase, you ain't gonna leave
Speaker 1: the airport. Well you will, but it will be within
Speaker 1: cups and you'll be going somewhere else, not where your destination.
Speaker 1: In the good old day, you can just throw that
Speaker 1: ship in your suitcase. W A. I feel like it
Speaker 1: was all the all the This nig is white boy Ricky.
Speaker 1: So no, that's what That's what I and I and
Speaker 1: I did that I did. I got a little trouble
Speaker 1: for it. I went to jail for a little while
Speaker 1: and then with a little while. Just really it was quick.
Speaker 1: It was six months. That's definitely it was quick because
Speaker 1: it was three hunder pounds, So that's quick three under
Speaker 1: pounds six months as well. Right now, what happens, I
Speaker 1: will never deny white privilege, and I will accept it
Speaker 1: graciously at all times because that would be so when
Speaker 1: I get pulled little, I just jump out the seat
Speaker 1: and put you into this. You know, it's very very simple.
Speaker 1: White privilege comes quickly, especially if you look like this.
Speaker 1: Now I'm Mexican and Jewish, and I look Jewish, So
Speaker 1: that's still let's story. Ever, what that comes with, I'm
Speaker 1: taking all of it. So let's let's have it. You
Speaker 1: know this, this is a black privilege is sometimes absolutely
Speaker 1: it's some black peop. We don't have the privileges like
Speaker 1: y'all have, Like I'm gonna get you in a college,
Speaker 1: But stereotype is our privilege. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes can work for you. Sometimes being an angry nigga
Speaker 1: can work for you. What I'm saying, give you an example.
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up, white man. No, this is this
Speaker 1: is true, and we talking about the same podcast. Everybody
Speaker 1: has privilege because it all rolls downhill, and everybody's at
Speaker 1: some point in the hill. So privilege. You need to
Speaker 1: recognize your own privilege at all times. White people don't
Speaker 1: recognize they have their own pridget privilege. The only reason
Speaker 1: they don't know it is because they just do what
Speaker 1: is white American. You're gonna walk outside. It's easy to
Speaker 1: be white in America. You're not gonna notice anything that.
Speaker 1: This is just how it works, you know. Crazy. I
Speaker 1: used to hate being famous until I can get a
Speaker 1: table of crustaceans. And I was like, I'm like when
Speaker 1: you can't like when I like, I like to be
Speaker 1: as normal as possible, Like I don't wanna want to
Speaker 1: go to a place and announced I'm coming. But then
Speaker 1: after a while I'm like that, Yeah, it's nice to
Speaker 1: put that. I heard you say something. I heard you
Speaker 1: said something you said m that you thought it was
Speaker 1: a downfall that you don't smile enough, like like not
Speaker 1: me now, like when you get in front of a
Speaker 1: certain type of crowds, Well no, it's uh, it's like
Speaker 1: when I'm not on stage. Like that's why, going back
Speaker 1: to what you said earlier about being in comic mode,
Speaker 1: most people's perception of comedians is that we're always joking.
Speaker 1: When I'm not on stage, man, I wear ice cube
Speaker 1: scal you know what I mean. And the people that
Speaker 1: don't know me, I don't look approachable. I don't look
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't come off like Wayne Brady
Speaker 1: your Warrior when I did. I'm gonna be honest, spells
Speaker 1: criminal all round. Listen listening. But I did the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: I rolled up there with their hand hoodie, so definitely stero. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't walk around cheesing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So people see that angry black
Speaker 1: I mean just I don't walk around cheesing like that.
Speaker 1: You know. I get in the moment when it's time
Speaker 1: to get in the moment. Okay, I'm gonna switch it
Speaker 1: switches crazy before I switch it crazy. I would like
Speaker 1: to ask bother people's opinion on Key and Pill, right,
Speaker 1: because I know you guys are a mad TV together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that they took a different turn. You took
Speaker 1: a different turn, and I really didn't relate to Ki
Speaker 1: and Pill at all. Now let me stop you right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that got me in trouble.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying the one thing that got me in trouble.
Speaker 1: I was on Black TV and I talked about how,
Speaker 1: you know, just like black people, we come in different forms.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, d m X is DMX
Speaker 1: all the time. DMX used that example in Will Smith
Speaker 1: and Will Smith. Will Smith has that magical ability where
Speaker 1: he can be around a bunch of white people and
Speaker 1: come off genuine, not like he's trying to be white,
Speaker 1: not like he's shuffling and uncle thomma, he's himself right.
Speaker 1: But he could also go down to eighty hood and
Speaker 1: still be will and he's respected authenticity, authenticity. Uh, DMX
Speaker 1: might not. He might, he might do it, but he
Speaker 1: might be around up a kind of upper echelon of
Speaker 1: white folks, and X being X, they may who he's
Speaker 1: too abrace it for them. So I almost say it's
Speaker 1: like an X men gene to be black and be
Speaker 1: able to do both sides without switching it up for
Speaker 1: any one of them. That's a special talent um. And
Speaker 1: and you know, Campo, I said, are they black? Yes,
Speaker 1: technically yes, but based on certain behavior, based on certain action,
Speaker 1: just the swagger, a way you walk away, you talk,
Speaker 1: certain moves you make. They were black, but they weren't black.
Speaker 1: If you get and I know you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. But I said they even
Speaker 1: heard Dave say he said he had to watch him
Speaker 1: kind of like like do his show for two years. Yes,
Speaker 1: because Dave Chappelle said like after he like like quit
Speaker 1: and when he said that, he because they were They
Speaker 1: took his slot. They took they took like like the
Speaker 1: skets type of comedy thing. Maybe they take everything from
Speaker 1: him that was his his lease. It wasn't even a
Speaker 1: slot as the same or no, I don't want I
Speaker 1: don't know about the slot. But but what I said
Speaker 1: was perceived a certain white And what did you say?
Speaker 1: For the record, I just again, I just I basically
Speaker 1: said it look key and peel And I never said
Speaker 1: they weren't funny, very funny. I just said, you know,
Speaker 1: do they come off? In other words, when I would
Speaker 1: watch them on their show and they would imitate black guys,
Speaker 1: it came off like Amos and Andy. It felt like
Speaker 1: guys doing black face, like black brother you know, brother man, yeah,
Speaker 1: brother performing in a way when I go, nigga, don't
Speaker 1: act like real leagues, don't talk like that. It felt
Speaker 1: like white guys trying to be black guys even though
Speaker 1: they were black guys being black guys. Something something, the
Speaker 1: authenticity wasn't there. So I said that, cut to, um,
Speaker 1: Jordan does get Out, three hundred million dollar movie, get
Speaker 1: Out one an Oscar. We had a great movie. But
Speaker 1: this was all before he blew up. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you some funny ship crazy ship is I funk with
Speaker 1: them when they're separate, when they got together as the
Speaker 1: Skets comedy. I didn't like the Skets comedy, but like,
Speaker 1: I like him and that's okay, comedy subjective. But cut
Speaker 1: to he's fucking huge now. And I kept saying to myself,
Speaker 1: I wonder if he saw that interview. And I don't
Speaker 1: know whether he did. It didn't Maybe some other dudes
Speaker 1: got in his heir. But this is when he was
Speaker 1: casting to the last o g and idition for the
Speaker 1: role et Cedric God that says he produced it directed
Speaker 1: get Out from get Out and yeah, that's yeah. So
Speaker 1: I read the breakdown and I go produced by Jordan Peale,
Speaker 1: I said, ship. So I went to the audition that
Speaker 1: day and I walked in the room. Now he could
Speaker 1: have played it where it was like yeah and then
Speaker 1: I know what you said and made me feel it,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. He was like everything south. He shook
Speaker 1: the hands, we did the thing, and I'm as I'm auditioning.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it from him, but the white guys
Speaker 1: who were working with him, I said, I know they've
Speaker 1: got in his ear and said, yo, you need to
Speaker 1: see what this nick said about you, because the vibe
Speaker 1: in the room was just you could feel it. So,
Speaker 1: you know, that's one of those moments where I said
Speaker 1: what I said, and even when I did my interview
Speaker 1: on Comedy Hype, I said, I still stand by what
Speaker 1: I said, but maybe I just shouldn't have said. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna change my opinion, but maybe I shouldn't just
Speaker 1: not have said it period, because that's one of those
Speaker 1: moments where you know, yeah, motherfucker, payback, but you just
Speaker 1: said it again. Well I took the same stand, not
Speaker 1: changing what I said, but it is. But now it's
Speaker 1: out there, so said what you said, you should have
Speaker 1: just it should have been said. Well, yeah, but those
Speaker 1: are the repercussions right like like like again again, I
Speaker 1: think that those guys are funny in their own way.
Speaker 1: I think at first way comedy, I think sorry to
Speaker 1: quit like this, but I think comedy. Since you sold
Speaker 1: us as fans, now you could look at it something
Speaker 1: totally different. But for me, comedy, since you sold this
Speaker 1: is the new Chapelle. Yeah, this is how this how
Speaker 1: it is presented to me as a fan replacement, this
Speaker 1: is this is the new Chapelle. Even before that there
Speaker 1: was Carlos Sancia and that went through its troubles, right,
Speaker 1: But but I think they were always trying to find
Speaker 1: the new Chappelle shell right, when you create that kind
Speaker 1: of noise, the revenue they want that they want. Dennis,
Speaker 1: what did you think when when you found out he
Speaker 1: went to Africa? I didn't really have an opinion on it,
Speaker 1: you know. And then later when he did interviews where
Speaker 1: he talked about particularly on the inside the actors studio,
Speaker 1: when he talked about Hollywood in the business and what's
Speaker 1: insane one noticed the one with the guys the white guy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Dave is so insightful that that, you know, he
Speaker 1: said things in interviews that that kind of made you
Speaker 1: go he wasn't crazy. I noticed suspend they wanted to
Speaker 1: put on it, but he wasn't crazy, you know. He
Speaker 1: he had to get away from it. He talked about
Speaker 1: the incident where Martin Lawrence was, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: running down the street and clothes and bugging in the street,
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, what kind of industry do
Speaker 1: we live in? That's so sick that would make a
Speaker 1: person do that? You know what I'm saying that Again,
Speaker 1: we don't know the facts. Facts, was Martin on someone
Speaker 1: who knows? Only Martin knows that. But I'm telling you
Speaker 1: this bas definitely PCP that well, based on what I
Speaker 1: know about this industry and what I've been through, I
Speaker 1: don't know too many people that make it in this
Speaker 1: industry sober because this businessman still your spirit, still your spirit? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we it's real sick because I like, you know, knowing
Speaker 1: that you was coming today, did you hit it again? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this interview is going to be very different knowing that
Speaker 1: she was coming today. I see all your interviews prior
Speaker 1: and obviously lead the comments and so many people like
Speaker 1: when we have opinion of somebody else and people think
Speaker 1: that you're doing better, the automatic cord your halo, right.
Speaker 1: So I went and I really assessed everything, and I
Speaker 1: saw every point that you were trying to make back
Speaker 1: then today, like I just saw it. I was just
Speaker 1: like I like because I was supposed to only watch
Speaker 1: like three or four and I just walked around my
Speaker 1: house the whole day when I watched about like twelve
Speaker 1: twelve different things. You're doing the press as a DMX,
Speaker 1: You're doing, uh, You're being asked this question, you being
Speaker 1: a blad being asked this question about this, and and
Speaker 1: and and so on and so forth. But me going
Speaker 1: through all of that, it took me twelve twelve different
Speaker 1: things for me to understand. Your point is because so
Speaker 1: many people like you know, I guess it's that light.
Speaker 1: I think you spoke about it, um and and and
Speaker 1: and and they say that it's one person chosen in
Speaker 1: Hollywood a year, right, black people maybe right, And it's
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's. It's so much the same in
Speaker 1: the music business, like meaning like we have a run, right,
Speaker 1: like you have a crazy one that you have a run,
Speaker 1: but then at some point it just slows down. It
Speaker 1: doesn't stop, it slows down and you have to do
Speaker 1: something else. Have you have you have you guys reached
Speaker 1: that point? I mean, I guess I'm lucky enough to
Speaker 1: where one I'm not out there overexposed. So you know,
Speaker 1: and this, this is another thing I love about Dave.
Speaker 1: You don't see Dave in a shiploaded interviews. And let
Speaker 1: me just say again, please, I don't want this to
Speaker 1: be perceived wrong, different strokes, different folks. If it works
Speaker 1: for you, great, You see Kevin Hard everywhere, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's you know, he's on he's the movie man whatever.
Speaker 1: But I think when you leave mystery, it makes people
Speaker 1: wonder what are you doing? And it adds to your mistique.
Speaker 1: As much as I love Michael Jordan, I'm a Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan fanatic, I love the fact that I don't see
Speaker 1: him like I see Barkley every Thursday, because it adds
Speaker 1: to my see you don't see nos and you don't
Speaker 1: see about him everything like you don't see that like
Speaker 1: those cards. A different business model, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It could just be that, So you know, for me,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, because I'm trying to understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Would you mean a different business life. Maybe someone says
Speaker 1: I need to get myself overexposed and make this kind
Speaker 1: of bread in this kind of way, and then other
Speaker 1: people say, well, I'll reserve myself to this kind of bag, understand,
Speaker 1: and one is not better than another. It's I'm boking
Speaker 1: maybe the same amount of money. I'm just saying for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think when people, especially
Speaker 1: when people love you and they want to see you
Speaker 1: and you're not always available, you keep that desire, that burden,
Speaker 1: desire for them to keep looking for you. UM. So
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to oversaturate myself for one um. And
Speaker 1: you know again, it's like they say, game recognize game.
Speaker 1: If people see an interview, if they see my work
Speaker 1: and they go this thing is so authentic, or he's
Speaker 1: so talented. For somebody who doesn't have a movie career,
Speaker 1: if for somebody who ain't been on TV consistently since
Speaker 1: Mad and it's been a minute, the fact that I'm
Speaker 1: still able to go out on the road and put
Speaker 1: asses in the seats is a testament to something that
Speaker 1: people know. You're with this sniging, I'm gonna get this
Speaker 1: and fox with it. Do you do do you think
Speaker 1: this is a crazy question? Do you think you suffer
Speaker 1: from your own success? Like meaning like Fat Joe goes
Speaker 1: all out every year right to make a crazy record.
Speaker 1: I see him every year, and then he makes a
Speaker 1: record and it works, and then the people say, well,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to work so so I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've got people like this a little It works all
Speaker 1: year to make a crazy hit and it comes to
Speaker 1: hit and people accept it. They say, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a little back new flowing my way up, this is
Speaker 1: a new sus. But then at the same tone and
Speaker 1: they say, so what he was supposed to make it
Speaker 1: because he's subjected to make the best product and you're you're, you're,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say supposed to but but it's
Speaker 1: not a surprise. But he still get the props that
Speaker 1: he deserves because they almost say he's supposed to make
Speaker 1: it home run? Is that technically he is because he's talented,
Speaker 1: he's got the goods, But if he don't apply the
Speaker 1: work ethic and he's lazy with it and he just
Speaker 1: acts like it's supposed to be, be stoked upon him
Speaker 1: and much different. But what I'm saying is like, there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of losses on Europe. Behalf like this.
Speaker 1: You know this, you rock both places right so now
Speaker 1: you is is that is that when people just expected
Speaker 1: you like they oh, every rocked him on the place,
Speaker 1: but he's supposed to. I mean, they might expect it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, again, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: everywhere to where you can judge me so much, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, look, man, there's no reason
Speaker 1: why I should If it's like they give everybody under
Speaker 1: the sun that's a comic a show on Comedy Central.
Speaker 1: There's no reason why I shouldn't have a show. There's
Speaker 1: no reason why I shouldn't have special. Netflix turned me down.
Speaker 1: You know, people keep saying to me, you should have Netflix,
Speaker 1: but they keep turning their Netflix turned me down. And
Speaker 1: when I got in that before, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the timing of when it was. But even with when
Speaker 1: I had that incident with Corey hokem at my manager.
Speaker 1: Not the fight, the fight, yeah that was the part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the interview joint. My my manager went to try to
Speaker 1: get me a Netflix special, and he said a couple
Speaker 1: of the executives said they saw the Corey olcom thing
Speaker 1: and went, they laughed, they went, he deserved it good.
Speaker 1: And not only did they not give me the special,
Speaker 1: they felt I deserved that. Let me task you something
Speaker 1: because um I saw it years ago did understand it,
Speaker 1: but dude, I had the obviously when I'm Google today
Speaker 1: it popped up, but I actually didn't understand n what
Speaker 1: actually transpired, like because Corey. As I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: interviews prior to that, I'm seeing the respect you have
Speaker 1: for Corey. I was in my top five. And let
Speaker 1: me say, for the record, I still think he's a
Speaker 1: great comedian. Just because the incident happened doesn't take away
Speaker 1: his ability. He's still a bad motherfucker. But we just
Speaker 1: definitely I feel like, I feel like what part made
Speaker 1: you feel like he wasn't your friend? No ball, Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, he never was my friend. Let me
Speaker 1: I just say he was somebody I respected and a
Speaker 1: colleague in the comedy game. I don't working around with
Speaker 1: that word friend. Friend is somebody who if you bury
Speaker 1: a body. Friend is somebody who you know what your lady,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, who has your batch? You
Speaker 1: know my best friend is in the back of this
Speaker 1: room right now. So I don't take that word lightly.
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, after the incident went down,
Speaker 1: the stance he took right when it happened, it was
Speaker 1: very different the next day and I didn't understand that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't understand you right now, So would you mean
Speaker 1: like what happened at that at the moment it popped
Speaker 1: off and and you know, in the heat of the moment,
Speaker 1: he was saying one thing to me like, you know,
Speaker 1: oh man, that's crazy. Was fucked up what he did?
Speaker 1: And dude is wrong. But then because it wasn't him,
Speaker 1: that just it wasn't Corey was it was Williams or
Speaker 1: whatever his name was. But then after days later I
Speaker 1: called Corey back and was like, nigga blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and he was like, nah, man, you was tripping. You
Speaker 1: was fucking up. You was you had too much tanker
Speaker 1: ray you was. I was like, that's different from what
Speaker 1: you told me. So then that kind of just and
Speaker 1: we like that SESSI story here, I guess, and it
Speaker 1: just dramatically changed, you know, because because that's that's the thing. Now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, because I don't know, um is
Speaker 1: Zoe Williams and commedia and that was no. But here
Speaker 1: was my mistake. And I said this in many interviews
Speaker 1: because Corey was my guy again and there was a
Speaker 1: risk my guy. All he had to do was say
Speaker 1: to me. What he said was, which was, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is Zoe Williams. It's my man. Okay, so your man
Speaker 1: is now my man for you. And I thought the
Speaker 1: same thing that we're doing him. We could do that drinks.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let's say you so oh and again
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. I talked with a certain flair
Speaker 1: with a passion, and I let my guard down. So
Speaker 1: I'm talking, we in it. I'm got to tang ray
Speaker 1: crazy and there's a little bit of contact. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: excited a little bit. So it's doing this and I was,
Speaker 1: and I was saying, ship and look, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about comics, like rappers or whatever. When you're in the
Speaker 1: same hustle, you know how to break each other's balls
Speaker 1: and then they ever gonna be no animosity we jokes.
Speaker 1: Was what we do is we eat. I assumed he
Speaker 1: was in that world. He's a civilian. He's a regular civilian.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is touching nerves when I'm thinking comics, Nigga,
Speaker 1: this we feel. We give and take. If I give
Speaker 1: it to you, you give it to me ten times
Speaker 1: back as good. So I guess you know I didn't
Speaker 1: want too many me slaps and you know, I'm masage
Speaker 1: this nigga's tissues, and he got upset and the ship
Speaker 1: went the way it went. But like I said, that's
Speaker 1: my fault because I went in there with the with
Speaker 1: I just went in in with my guard down, and
Speaker 1: I said, I would never do that again. I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe comedians has to be comedians. Um, that's the
Speaker 1: reason why I was like, like yo, wal and ways
Speaker 1: we had to like literally kick him out because he
Speaker 1: just he just fell in love with us. He just
Speaker 1: kept kept smoking and he just was like he just
Speaker 1: like you know what, like he felt comfortable cause we
Speaker 1: like we understand comedians like you could cloud everybody. Russell
Speaker 1: Peters came here as well, and Russell Peter sip Right
Speaker 1: were FM is that we we got him high, we
Speaker 1: got him fucked up. And he joked on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Twitter's paradise everyone could see the twinnters paradise and I
Speaker 1: didn't know because he he kind of went a little
Speaker 1: too farn like just like for a certain thing, and
Speaker 1: I had to but he was saying it to me,
Speaker 1: but I had to pull twinters aside, and I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta let a comedian be a comedian. That's like
Speaker 1: me telling me, you know, you can't be that much
Speaker 1: of a rapper, like I can't, you can't. I don't
Speaker 1: want nobody to judge me like that. I don't want
Speaker 1: nobody to say, yo, yo, you know what, say what what?
Speaker 1: Don't say? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? You?
Speaker 1: Three tools? The tools is okay, but three periously. I
Speaker 1: don't want somebody to do that. So I stepped the
Speaker 1: twinter that I said, yo, look, I know what comedians do.
Speaker 1: And Twinter looked at me like, yo, fun didn't give
Speaker 1: a fun. He went some way where he sound on him. No,
Speaker 1: he was just you, just like physically like he was
Speaker 1: just you know, I was gonna say, he wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to feel like, no, don't because that and that's
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing is comedians. I'd love to say
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for y'all, but I watched because the
Speaker 1: thing is what makes me the same person is watching
Speaker 1: you motherfucker's make fun of me, watching your motherfucker's make
Speaker 1: fun of what's happening. You know what's funny? Man? I
Speaker 1: got then when as you say that, and most people
Speaker 1: are like that, but you know, I tell you a
Speaker 1: rapper who sense of humors was? You know ll I
Speaker 1: did a movie called Out of Same with ll Um.
Speaker 1: I was, and I was playing his best friend and
Speaker 1: I would, you know, imitate him in front of him.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, it's kind of funny people. While so
Speaker 1: he wasn't. Really he felt like I was making fun
Speaker 1: of him instead of trying to last you well. And
Speaker 1: you know, listen and certain interviews and certain things I've done,
Speaker 1: like I said, I go, I go hard, like on
Speaker 1: my CD did I did a prank call where I
Speaker 1: did LLL call with a gay club trying trying to
Speaker 1: get in on Filipino night. How's this gone? It's so
Speaker 1: specific thought, that's what I just I was. I called
Speaker 1: the club up and I said, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to come in on Filipino night. It's a Filipino night.
Speaker 1: I want to sit and boot with Hoodie on. You
Speaker 1: have a cocon up the way you're only chaps. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sit with the Filipino boy, not man. Its crazy man,
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, and I think word got
Speaker 1: back to him and he kind of you know, but
Speaker 1: that's what I'm stilling there. This was on the set
Speaker 1: he just was on my comedy CD. My on the
Speaker 1: set like you and oh no, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: mean I mean you know you've already done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got a set. But how about DMX, like when
Speaker 1: you when you met DMX that he app Well, here's funny. Uh.
Speaker 1: I remember jay Z was doing a concert at the
Speaker 1: Staple Center and that week we had Meth and Read
Speaker 1: on Mad TV. So Meth was like, Yo, I'm hanging
Speaker 1: out with hold the Staple Center. Your roll with me?
Speaker 1: So I did so again. My CD had just come out,
Speaker 1: So I'm bumping in the bustle rhymes and everybody, and
Speaker 1: you hold up my CD and promoted give me a
Speaker 1: shout out of y'all, and it was all doing it.
Speaker 1: So I've seen X and I said X man my CD.
Speaker 1: He stopped me said, you're dog I the hologen so
Speaker 1: and here yeah, mam, mistake he was. He was hanging
Speaker 1: out in one of the locker rooms and in the
Speaker 1: locker room there's only one way in, and so it
Speaker 1: gave me being naive. I walk in the locker room. Uh,
Speaker 1: he comes in next, but then fifteen niggers come in
Speaker 1: and they all formed a circle around me and Accident's
Speaker 1: just me and X in the middle. And then the
Speaker 1: last dude comes into security. He slams the door boom
Speaker 1: and stands right in front of the door and he said,
Speaker 1: your dog my voice I heard some days with my voice.
Speaker 1: I said, well, look, as just want you to promote
Speaker 1: the CD. I'll tell you what, come to my hotel
Speaker 1: in me here. If the ship is real, yeah, if
Speaker 1: it's not, here's my here's here's then let's go back.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to what I was talking about, the
Speaker 1: degrees of blackness. Now I'm a legit ut nigger. Here's
Speaker 1: how I know I'm not nigger. Nigga was talking to
Speaker 1: me and at one point this nigga said, you're dog
Speaker 1: and pulled the razor blade out from under this talk.
Speaker 1: And I looked at that ship and I said, this
Speaker 1: nigger can talk without cutting inside. I said, now I
Speaker 1: know the difference between me and this nigger can do that.
Speaker 1: I'm the hustings that breathe and nigger right there. I'm
Speaker 1: so ashamed to say I can do that. As that's
Speaker 1: that's the racking Ziland. I'm so sorry. So that's the
Speaker 1: rest of nineties. So how about whole what was your
Speaker 1: first impression and you meeting home. Uh, well, the first
Speaker 1: time I met him, I had to do an interview.
Speaker 1: I was interviewing to me a grand Grant Hills wife
Speaker 1: for a magazine and it was at this spot in
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills where you know, they had a little restaurant
Speaker 1: outdoor joint. So I'm sitting with her at the table
Speaker 1: and he comes in and I remember he had had
Speaker 1: on backwards in a wife beater. He obviously knew she
Speaker 1: was he. I wasn't nobody at the time to me,
Speaker 1: So he went over to give her love and sing,
Speaker 1: and uh, I was like, yo, whole man, big fan man,
Speaker 1: whatever is nagn played me like. It was like damn so.
Speaker 1: And I hadn't really seen him after that, but me
Speaker 1: and my people's we went to the Pacquial may Weather
Speaker 1: the fight, and when the fight was over, everybody was
Speaker 1: spilling out from the arena into the streets and you
Speaker 1: see Alan Iverson There's a little mob around him. Then
Speaker 1: that mob believes him and immediately goes over here. Because
Speaker 1: now it was Jay Beyonce walking hand by hand, and
Speaker 1: I just happened my movement to join their rhythm. So
Speaker 1: I'm right next to them as they walking and stride,
Speaker 1: and I said, U yo, jay Man, I big fan,
Speaker 1: man goes, I know who you are, nigga. I know
Speaker 1: how didn't say anything. I know who you are. I
Speaker 1: really I really wanted to break down to him and
Speaker 1: just give him a little bit. You know, I ain't
Speaker 1: animated like say a bust the moms sh you get
Speaker 1: when you break down my lines. Add that to the
Speaker 1: fact been plut a bunch of times times staff of
Speaker 1: mind flowing, so pop coaching everybody. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: when I no longer exists. Now, how how shock? You
Speaker 1: know what's funny when people ask about the impressions, I say,
Speaker 1: it's always like being a musician. Singers have ear for tonation, pitch, um, riffs, tone,
Speaker 1: so it's like everybody's voice is a note. So shock
Speaker 1: is all based, you know. To be honest, I like Shock,
Speaker 1: But every time I meet him, he grabs my head
Speaker 1: and I know I actually can't meet him in the
Speaker 1: right So I'm just I'm just like a mad talking
Speaker 1: but I just really like yet, please, let's stop this.
Speaker 1: Let's do it like this. Let's uh ask ask me
Speaker 1: a questions? Asking me a question like we got asking
Speaker 1: me a basketball questions. Okay, Shock, Right now, we got
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is going to the Brooklyn Nets, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna be out the whole season. He's gonna be out
Speaker 1: the whole season. How is the net season going to
Speaker 1: be like with just Kyrie? Is Kyrie hold down this
Speaker 1: whole season without? First of all, let me tell you what, brother,
Speaker 1: they already got a strong to us best best point guards.
Speaker 1: I just said, James, let's check me. Let's I just
Speaker 1: to tell people all the time, as long as Lebron
Speaker 1: got the others, it's what I'm gonna make the balls
Speaker 1: gonna do you want to do? But when he got
Speaker 1: the others, Jr. Let me let me, let me go back,
Speaker 1: let me go back town to why this is why
Speaker 1: I say I'm black balls. Y'all recently saw the NBA Awards, right,
Speaker 1: and they had that moment with Jay Farrow sat at
Speaker 1: the table with Barkley and imitated Shock. And it ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with my vanity. Read the comments
Speaker 1: eight five ninety sense that there's no fucking way that
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been aries, No fucking way that's aries all day.
Speaker 1: And I didn't get that that job. I didn't even
Speaker 1: get the call, so you know, I know that's because
Speaker 1: I'm black balls. No, but my Spidey sense tells me
Speaker 1: something that's crazy. And Jay Fouler just did White Famous,
Speaker 1: didn't he Well he had done White Famous, yeah, and
Speaker 1: from Saturday Night Live and all that. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's just one of those moments where I go, man,
Speaker 1: something's up, something's up, okay, and people move saying That's
Speaker 1: what makes me an asshole is that I would say that.
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to say I think I should have
Speaker 1: got that call. I'm not allowed to say that that. No,
Speaker 1: but that's perceived as cocky because you shouldn't have got
Speaker 1: you should I'm saying that, like I shouldn't be like
Speaker 1: that somehow. Now I don't think that's you know, and
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying that I felt, you know, that's
Speaker 1: a job I deserved slightly. But I'm not supposed to
Speaker 1: say that you were out before jaw is my man,
Speaker 1: I got his phone number? Were cool? Um, seeing that's
Speaker 1: the whole house every now and then, Um, but you've
Speaker 1: been doing it way before. Well. People also thought I
Speaker 1: had a beef with Jay because I said this again.
Speaker 1: I always started everything with my fucker's funny and Jay's funny.
Speaker 1: And I'll say, like I said a million times, he
Speaker 1: does impressions I wish I could do. I'm envious to that, naggd.
Speaker 1: But the only thing I said to bother me is
Speaker 1: impressions are specific, and what makes a great impression is
Speaker 1: is when you capture detail to the last time. And Jay,
Speaker 1: when he would do jay Z, he would always go blue,
Speaker 1: I vy my baby girl, I run the whale, and
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I would never say that. He would
Speaker 1: say girl in the world the way you say girl
Speaker 1: in the world, over the whole tone, you know, my
Speaker 1: baby girl, smoke wirl and when the fun is wild
Speaker 1: like that would just irritate me. Like that would irritate me.
Speaker 1: That's ultimately jay Z. That just like when he would
Speaker 1: do Shot, he would do this face. He would go
Speaker 1: and it's like it's it's part of what Mason great is.
Speaker 1: It's a slight exaggeration. Shot don't look like this but
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I just, you know, certain little
Speaker 1: things like that would get me. And I would say that,
Speaker 1: and again, I'm not supposed to say ship like that.
Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to you're the only one who can
Speaker 1: do someone else's impression of that somebody else compression the impression. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite part of comedy? Me? I mean that
Speaker 1: you started at you stared at forty one, said two,
Speaker 1: started at two. I'm gonna be real honest for me
Speaker 1: self gratification to get that immediate responsive laughter for something
Speaker 1: that I said and know that people enjoyed it. It's
Speaker 1: like drug. But but I really talked about my real
Speaker 1: life stories. So when I don't get that it's not fun.
Speaker 1: That's because, yeah, because it's me. When this someone doesn't
Speaker 1: like me, they don't like me, they don't concert material.
Speaker 1: It's your life, so they don't like me. So that's
Speaker 1: the only side of it. But I love I love
Speaker 1: the honesty that you get to have a comedy and
Speaker 1: that's what I thought about it. And it's not a
Speaker 1: real job like I have not felt in the eleven
Speaker 1: years I've been doing this. I had a job. Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't feel I don't feel like you're gonna work.
Speaker 1: You feel like you guys mean well. I would perform
Speaker 1: in certain spots in Cali and he just happened to
Speaker 1: be opening up. I though he's from Utah. I shut no, no,
Speaker 1: this is based on a joke. No, no, this is
Speaker 1: from a game. It's based on that comed white because
Speaker 1: I ain't no niggas, So you talk to white people happen.
Speaker 1: The first time I went to Utah, I was looking
Speaker 1: at the niggas, like looking at I was like, I
Speaker 1: was at the airpoint. You know, airport is diverse because
Speaker 1: niggas is going in and out. You know that's funny.
Speaker 1: As the first time I went to Utah, stuck at
Speaker 1: the airport for seven hours, I became a callbing old fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, you jazz they calling oders the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, that's White's agate. You know
Speaker 1: it is great. So yeah, I know. So I would
Speaker 1: I would perform. And he was opening for me, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I wear scal like my
Speaker 1: music on him in the zone getting ready for the show.
Speaker 1: And again this perception is don't talk to Arias so
Speaker 1: he's he's angry or he's a divo, he's difficult, and
Speaker 1: he didn't tell into any of that ship. So he
Speaker 1: just started talking to me. Uh, and you know, things
Speaker 1: just kind of meshed and I liked this comedy and
Speaker 1: he had the guts to ask me yoke and I
Speaker 1: featured with you regularly. I said, yeah, come on, said though,
Speaker 1: I said, it's real quick. The second time I worked
Speaker 1: with him, though, he was on the road and he
Speaker 1: didn't talk to me like I thought, we broke that barrier.
Speaker 1: Like we talked. We had a big conversation. What I
Speaker 1: didn't know is if you don't know areas well, just
Speaker 1: because you met him and had a conversation with him,
Speaker 1: you don't start off where you left off. You go
Speaker 1: back to where you first. Yeah. So I sat in
Speaker 1: the green room for like two days and I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything to him, and he wasn't saying anything to me,
Speaker 1: and I just go, so, is this what you expect
Speaker 1: from your feature? Not talk to you unless you talk
Speaker 1: to me? And he just looked at me, goes, I'm
Speaker 1: grown fucking man. You can talk to me whenever you
Speaker 1: want to. He goes, I'll be outside. He walked outside.
Speaker 1: And then that after that it was kind of like
Speaker 1: and I think the third week we worked together brought
Speaker 1: me a big bottle of tequil. Him. I said, we're
Speaker 1: good now, yea, but do you ever like um? Both
Speaker 1: of you guys? You know you have because you're literally
Speaker 1: your job is to make other people happy. Right. They
Speaker 1: say your way to get into heaven is to do
Speaker 1: something for people who can't do nothing for you. That's
Speaker 1: literally your job. Because your your job is to make
Speaker 1: somebody laugh that literally probably can't make you laugh. But
Speaker 1: that's the relationship. It's like, I feel like if I
Speaker 1: get to make you laugh, but it makes me feel
Speaker 1: good about myself. We completed that relationship and that's what
Speaker 1: makes that work for me. And I'm happy that they're
Speaker 1: getting what they need for me. But I couldn't do
Speaker 1: it if I wasn't getting what I needed from doing comedy, right,
Speaker 1: that was hard? Well all right, so look three years
Speaker 1: my lucky number. We did too. We're going in God,
Speaker 1: that's it. You only got the time of the anniversary.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. It's the anniversary. But n r E
Speaker 1: album than y'all. I gotta I want to turn one. Uh.
Speaker 1: This album means the most important album to me because
Speaker 1: this is my album. I stepped out on my own.
Speaker 1: We had made the More Reporters the Classic album and
Speaker 1: Capone got locked up and I had to go on
Speaker 1: my own. So I actually made this and if it
Speaker 1: would have failed. Uh, I would have been the blame
Speaker 1: and it worked and I still wasn't the blame. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the way. It's just the way that ship
Speaker 1: works for you to you know, turn twenty one years yesterday,
Speaker 1: which means it's twenty one years week. You know each
Speaker 1: other's well because you know our albums. And I before
Speaker 1: up to DJ College because is he coming or not?
Speaker 1: I've really been seeing him pause, um, you know for
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of these past couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's brought up drink chats before, but
Speaker 1: this time he's like, what's something here? Fat man with
Speaker 1: some crazy hood. He knows the beginning of my story.
Speaker 1: He knows that my struggle. He knows. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I just never heard him that passionately. So I want
Speaker 1: to bag him. Also want to pick up something. You
Speaker 1: pick him up, And I also want to pick up
Speaker 1: something because I would like to apologize to people who
Speaker 1: watched the Rick Ross interview. You know, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think eppisodes are coming out of sync whenever you
Speaker 1: heard that ship. I want to say sorry because I
Speaker 1: looked at myself and I said, jeezus, I didn't like
Speaker 1: me ived it. Yeah, that's not a shot. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest and listen after that, like, shot, it's not
Speaker 1: a shot, Bro, that's not a shot. Really push around here.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be a real jig old everybody. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be a real person, Rick Ross. You
Speaker 1: deserved a better interview than that. What happened was we was,
Speaker 1: you know, drink assistant assist o'clock in the morning. Um,
Speaker 1: I've held it down to the middle of the interview.
Speaker 1: You did a great job until the middle of the interview.
Speaker 1: What happened was they wouldn't give us the champagne bottle.
Speaker 1: They kept pouring it for us. So when they kept
Speaker 1: pouring it for us, we didn't have none of our liquor,
Speaker 1: We had none of our likers. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to make excuses. I want to, you know, be you know,
Speaker 1: great to my fans and say, you know, for being
Speaker 1: with us, because there's a certain people that keep saying
Speaker 1: great fucking Rick Ross interview, and I appreciate that, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't on my a game. Can I say something? Really,
Speaker 1: you held it down, so thank you. It's not not
Speaker 1: helding it down. First of all word show called Drink Chace. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you get drunk and sometimes it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: That's what being drunk is. It doesn't work out sometimes.
Speaker 1: Step we did a special podcast episode called the High
Speaker 1: Episode and devoted us to eat edibles and smoke and
Speaker 1: drink and then do the podcast. He couldn't do this
Speaker 1: smoke sensical, Like if I was just funked up as him,
Speaker 1: that whole episode would have been harrending. You know what
Speaker 1: the crazy ship is. It's never were both sucked up.
Speaker 1: It's always either year up, but somebody's pet crack. Episode's
Speaker 1: got to sleep. I walked away. Let's sleep. But to
Speaker 1: a degree, that's kind of how it shouldn't be somebody.
Speaker 1: That's the point. Like, that's what I'm trying to tell people, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're a fan, we're not doing it. If you're
Speaker 1: a fan of what we're doing, like, don't get mad
Speaker 1: when we actually do what we say you do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't get mad at that. That is the product.
Speaker 1: That's not the real thing. What I'm saying. We drink
Speaker 1: chance sometimes too much. So we just want to let
Speaker 1: the people know. Man, we're out here working hard. As
Speaker 1: of now, we got episodes coming uh from Na's masterp Ross.
Speaker 1: We got a whole bunch of big episodes. We want
Speaker 1: to announce it on the Come on, everybody, everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: listen to this motherfucker interviews if you want to announce
Speaker 1: it on this and we're having fun. Man, we're doing it.
Speaker 1: I so much appreciate you for coming through Manure a legend.
Speaker 1: Our game is about bigging up legends. Be big en
Speaker 1: up people who's been seasoned, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: People feel like, uh, the longer you've been in this game,
Speaker 1: Like I said, people call you washed up. But I
Speaker 1: want to call us season I want to call us classics.
Speaker 1: I want to call us legends. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: as opposed to people that you know, I listened to
Speaker 1: a person who's been in the game twenty years and
Speaker 1: a person has been in the game for two days
Speaker 1: any day, because our rout the your experience, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: we live in the world where that's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: These people they want to listen to, you know, God
Speaker 1: bless these city girls, but deep, God, dam man, what
Speaker 1: the fun is going on? These girls? I'm walking they
Speaker 1: probably they see a bit like the cigarette with a pussy,
Speaker 1: like they where is this girl? Like like this is
Speaker 1: these city girls? They got chipped this We live in
Speaker 1: a different generations quality of they got Starbucks in hall
Speaker 1: them right now. It's a fact. Moke up frappuccinos. That's
Speaker 1: not like a song up. There's nothing wrong with growth,
Speaker 1: like like like like Jada said in that that line,
Speaker 1: take them to the Gucci store showing the loafs hood niggers.
Speaker 1: I'm just showing you broth, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So growth is good, man, you need to Starbucks. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now I'm just I'm in this on this one.
Speaker 1: You did an interview with Sway and Snoop forgave Iggy
Speaker 1: because Iggy has said something about Snoop and Snoop set
Speaker 1: I forget bit and you said he said, he said
Speaker 1: Sloop Bay Super Snoop said, yeah, you said, you said,
Speaker 1: see the rappers they start off hardcohol. Yeah. Listen, I've
Speaker 1: always had a love hate relationship or some of the
Speaker 1: philosophy and rap you know they's talking about you can
Speaker 1: keep gangster hard, call gangsters killers? Like has it said?
Speaker 1: No matter how much new I get, I'm staying in
Speaker 1: the projects. He didn't live in the process when he
Speaker 1: said that, right, But my point being as all as
Speaker 1: as much as you predicate yourself on being hard, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, your nig is a reciting poetry. Yes, son,
Speaker 1: start smiling. It's profitable to smile because you know all
Speaker 1: of them. You can start out hard. You know you
Speaker 1: start smiling. Now we can put you in a bad
Speaker 1: can we promote the podcasts Call Up spears in Steinberg.
Speaker 1: It's available through iTunes, Slash, Apple, Google Play, Spotify, Spotify,
Speaker 1: and spearsberg dot com. Fun with Your Boy Arias on Cameo,
Speaker 1: Pay that Money, Get thee Yeah, yeah, so look me
Speaker 1: up on cameo and Instagram and all of that. Ship
Speaker 1: Yes solo. Let me just tell you something, man, once again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna salute y'all because this is this is about y'all. Y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some comedy character real quick before
Speaker 1: if we do your shot. You just did your salute,
Speaker 1: you bring my Italian half take this fucking up, fucking
Speaker 1: men amongst men. Then the fucking boys hit all right,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna take this fucking shot. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: somebody some of that. You're gonna do a shot so
Speaker 1: fucking good, you're gonna get up a walk out of them. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going west here. Yeah, if we take a picture, okay,
Speaker 1: dry out, Okay, get dropped, Get dropped. So funny,