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Speaker 1: bet on Roy McElroy. I really wanted to, and I

429
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Speaker 1: didn't because I got cold feet. Luckily, I've been in

430
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Speaker 1: the soccer market long enough that I don't hold on

431
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Speaker 1: to things that I wanted to do that I didn't do.

432
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Speaker 1: Just let it go. Sometimes in hell, if I would

433
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Speaker 1: have bet on him, he probably would have lost. But

434
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Speaker 1: I think there are four individuals, two quarterbacks and two

435
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Speaker 1: coaches that until they do it, it's actually going to

436
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Speaker 1: add to the interest. And I think when you look

437
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Speaker 1: at the two quarterbacks, it's pretty clear who they are,

438
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Speaker 1: right and I would rank them to Lamar Jackson one

439
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And the reason I have Lamar Jackson number

440
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: two is like he just hasn't played that well in

441
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, and he, I would say, got

442
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Speaker 1: to go to an organization that, over the last two

443
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Speaker 1: and a half decades twenty five plus years, has been

444
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Speaker 1: considered not just one of the better organizations in foot

445
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Speaker 1: but in all of professional sports in North America. The

446
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: Ravens are a high level operation. Now they were in trouble,

447
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: he got there, he saved him, but they've been the

448
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: number one seed multiple times and Ben Kote one year,

449
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry ran for like four hundred yards on him.

450
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, the Chiefs just embarrassed him,

451
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean seventeen to ten, absolute joke. They had no

452
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: business not winning it. But like, until he does it,

453
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Speaker 1: He's won these MVPs, he puts up these incredible stats,

454
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Speaker 1: Like he's kind of falling under that category of like

455
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Speaker 1: something happens in the playoffs, It's like, what is going on?

456
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Speaker 1: This is not the same guy. Now. Last year, for

457
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: the first time, in the second half of that game

458
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: against the Bills started to look more like the Lamar

459
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Speaker 1: Jackson we get used to seeing the regular season, and

460
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Speaker 1: it was like that was the Ravens had no business

461
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Speaker 1: losing that game. They were the more talented team, and

462
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Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson doesn't play like he did in the

463
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Speaker 1: first half with two awful turnovers, they probably win the game.

464
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Speaker 1: Now you can say, well, it's Mark Andrew's fault. It's like, well,

465
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: they are a defense and quarterback dependent team and when

466
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Speaker 1: he plays bad, they got problems where you know, the Bills.

467
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Speaker 1: That's why I'd have Josh Allen won, is because he

468
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Speaker 1: actually plays well in the playoffs. If Lamar Jackson plays

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the playoffs, I will bet against Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he won't do it, doesn't mean that it

471
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Speaker 1: won't eventually happen, But I don't think you'd be really

472
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Speaker 1: hard pressed to go this is the year, this is

473
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Speaker 1: the time. Just like most people with Roy McElroy, your

474
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Speaker 1: stupid stay away from this one where Josh Allen has

475
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Speaker 1: been the opposite. If you look at his numbers specifically

476
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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, played pretty well. I mean a couple

477
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Speaker 1: of years ago, you could say he outplayed Patrick Mahomes

478
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Speaker 1: in the thirteen second game, and you know he you know,

479
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: unlike the Ravens, they've won a couple of Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty five thirty years, the Bills have

481
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Speaker 1: this thing hanging over their head like kind of a

482
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Speaker 1: tragic operation. Right, went to four straight Super Bowls, didn't

483
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Speaker 1: win one. And what the likelihood if I took a

484
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Speaker 1: team four straight, whether it was World Series, NBA Finals,

485
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: Stanley Cups, super Bowls, you just if I was like,

486
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get their four straight years, the likelihood that

487
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Speaker 1: you're gonna win one of them, especially a super Bowl

488
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: situation which is a one games sixty minutes, I feel

489
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Speaker 1: like it's like eighty plus percent that you're just bound

490
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Speaker 1: to win one. And they never did. And then up

491
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: until Josh and Sean McDermott got there, the Bills were

492
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: terrible this century. They were a joke. And then they

493
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: have literally played the Chiefs really well. They beat them

494
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Speaker 1: during the regular season consistently, they've played well in the playoffs.

495
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Speaker 1: And what makes it cool about these two guys is

496
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: it's clear they're all time great talents. Lamar's got two MVPs.

497
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Speaker 1: Josh just won his first MVP. If you tell me

498
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Speaker 1: when their careers end, they combined for six MVPs. Maybe

499
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: Lamar gets maybe they both get three. Right, I can

500
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: see Lamar win another one. I can see Josh win

501
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Speaker 1: a couple more. I personally think Josh is the best

502
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Speaker 1: player in the NFL currently, But like, until they do it,

503
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of tragic. Like if you're a betanman,

504
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: you'd say, yeah, there's a decent chance at least one

505
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: of them never even gets his Super Bowl. Think about that.

506
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: That's the thing with Harbaugh and Kyle. Who to me,

507
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: and that's Jim Harbaugh, not John who obviously won the

508
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Is I would have Kyle Shanahan is by

509
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: far the most like tragic figure as a coach because

510
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: he's the only assistant coach in my life. I would

511
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: say any sport who gets blamed for a Super Bowl loss.

512
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: When you think about the twenty eight to three game,

513
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: no one talks about Dan Quinn, who was the head

514
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: football coach. No one ever mentions him, it's Kyle Shanahan's fault.

515
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: It's Kyle Shanahan's fault. It's Kyle Shanahan's fault, which fair

516
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: not he gets blamed for. And then he's had multiple

517
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Speaker 1: Super Bowls against the current dynasty the Chiefs and Patrick

518
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: Mahomes where he's had a lead in the fourth quarter.

519
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: Help two years ago he took him no overtime for

520
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: some reason kicked the field goal, which probably not a

521
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: great idea, but regardless is it's like the thing the

522
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: difference of Jim Harbon and Kyle is, even if Jim

523
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Speaker 1: Harbond never wins a Super Bowl, you could never not

524
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Speaker 1: call him a champion because he built up a championship

525
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: team at Michigan, which I would say over the last

526
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: couple decades clearly was one of the best college football

527
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: teams of his era, loaded with NFL guys at every

528
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: single position, didn't lose a game, beat Ohio State, beat

529
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban in his last final game, and then absolutely

530
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: destroyed a team loaded with NFL players in Washington in

531
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: the future Alabama coach in the championship. But like up

532
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: until that game, you know, I would say Jarba fell

533
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: under that of like, is he ever gonna get it done?

534
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Is he ever gonna win? Hell, he lost to his

535
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: fucking brother in the Super Bowls. That's something that is

536
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: an extra additive of like it's one thing. It's like, ah,

537
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: I lost a Belichick, I lost to Andy Reid's, like

538
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I lost to my brother in the Super Bowl. They

539
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: were kind of getting their ass kick until lights went off.

540
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: But the thing with Kyle, it goes he doesn't have

541
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: college football. He can't never say, well, you know, I

542
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: won a championship when I was thirty eight at Texas

543
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: or when I led Florida to a championship. It's like no,

544
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like, are you gonna win with the forty nine ers?

545
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe he never gets back with the

546
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, Maybe he had his opportunity never comes.

547
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: But you look at these figures and this is what

548
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: the business is built on. Obviously, the championships and the Brady's,

549
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: the Mannings, the Mahomes, guys that win them. But you

550
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: also need these other characters that are almost tragic, and

551
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Kyle Shanahan and Jim

552
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Harbaugh are kind of filling that void. Last but not

553
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: least I didn't want to mention this before we get

554
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: out of here, is that there's clearly a trend that

555
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: agents are telling their clients you don't need to run.

556
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: When I was in the NFL, it would have been

557
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: un heard of for a healthy player to not run

558
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: the forty, especially a guy who was fast. I totally

559
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: understand when I remember Keenan Allen had like knee injury

560
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: clear he wasn't gonna run that fast, wanted no part

561
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: of it. He eventually ran at like some private workout.

562
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: It didn't go well and it cost him won to

563
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: the third round. But still, guys, it felt like, I

564
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: don't know if it was peer pressure, league pressure, you

565
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: just did it. And there has been a clear shift

566
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Speaker 1: to these agents going we're not running the forty and

567
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: your guys fast like your guy can run like, we're

568
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Ashton Genty at his pro day

569
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: no forty. I watched Ashton gent run. It looks pretty

570
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: fast to me. But if someone in the league told me, yeah,

571
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: it's just not worth it. If he runs the four

572
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: or five two, it could cost him ten spots and

573
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: a lot of money. What I think Will Johnson at

574
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Michigan who just had I don't know if it was

575
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: a pro day or like his personal workout. He's doing

576
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: the short shuttle. He jumped thirty seven inches. He is

577
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 1: an excellent athlete. Will Johnson is a really, really good player.

578
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: When I think of Will Johnson, I think someone did

579
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: his fast Now. I don't know if he's like Deon

580
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Sanders running a four two forty, but I definitely don't

581
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: view a guy that's like scared to run. And I

582
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: think these agents realize now, like what are you gonna do?

583
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Not draft my client because he doesn't run a forty.

584
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we're that far away from getting to

585
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: a point where it's one thing like if you tell

586
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: me a guard doesn't want to run the forty, yeah,

587
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: who cares? Whatever. It's like you can see his explosion.

588
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: You can see him on tape, Like do I need

589
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: him to run a forty? It's not the end all

590
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: be all, But when it comes to a wide receiver,

591
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to a running back, when it comes

592
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: to a corner, I kind of want to know the forty.

593
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you got the data for you know

594
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: the programs, Like, yeah, I want to see him run

595
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: a forty. What his number is. Part of it is

596
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: so I can compare him to previous guys drafted where

597
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: he ranks, to other guys that were drafted really high.

598
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner isn't exactly. You know, the fastest guy on

599
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: the planet went in the top five. So it's if

600
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: you're a really good player, even if you run a

601
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: four or five two, it's not gonna kill you. Now

602
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: if you run a four to four to zero, maybe

603
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna help you. That's the other thing. When you

604
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: don't run the forty, things can go well. If you're

605
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna just approach it glass half empty, yeah, don't touch it. Well.

606
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Part of it is there have been a ton of

607
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: guys over the history of this draft. If you just

608
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: look at the last ten to fifteen twenty years that

609
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: have run good times, that couldn't play, that have made

610
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: themselves a lot of money. Will Johnson can play. Honestly,

611
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: at one point in time early in the season, he

612
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: got banged up. Throughout the year, I think a lot

613
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: of people thought like, could this guy go like top five?

614
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Could this guy definitely go top ten? Now, depending on

615
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: who you talk to, he's probably gonna end up going

616
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: somewhere like eight to twenty.

617
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Who knows.

618
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of very variables in this draft. Boards

619
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: are all over the place. But if you told me

620
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: that he ran, well, he ain't gonna plummet like a

621
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: rock in the ocean. Okay, let's dive into the mailbag

622
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram DM's

623
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: wide open, fire in them. It's just my Instagram, DM

624
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: me and get your question answered here on the show.

625
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: I see this video from Belichick as going viral. Everyone

626
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: is just let the man live. He's seventy three, seventy

627
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: four years old, he's got a twenty five year old

628
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: girlfriend who wears hooker boots and just let him have

629
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: a good time, you know. But Bill's on campus. Everyone's

630
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: just trying to cut the dude's wings. Let my man live. Okay,

631
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Speaker 1: let's dive into the mailbag. Got it quite for the bag.

632
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: Some of my local radio guys brought this up the

633
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: other day in regards to Travis Hunter. He's considered a

634
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: consensus top five pick, and I'm not sure why hear

635
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: me out. Most are saying it's going to be impossible

636
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: for him to play both sides. Of the ball. If

637
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: that's the case, they are drafting him to be a

638
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: dB or a wide receiver exclusively and not both. Well,

639
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: if you're drafting solely for those positions, I'm not sure

640
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: he's the best of either one. For dbs, i'd argue

641
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: it's Will Johnson out of Michigan, and for wide receivers,

642
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: i'd argue it's McMillan out of Arizona. He's a higher

643
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: prospect scorer both because he's an awesome player, but it's

644
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: mostly because of his versatility and ability to do both.

645
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's better than either of them at

646
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: those positions exclusively. It's almost everyone is saying he can't

647
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: do both. I think I would rather have Travis Hunter

648
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: on my team than the Arizona wide receiver. And I

649
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: think part of it, you're not going into this draft

650
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: when you take him of like he has to do

651
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: this now. Maybe this team leans like I want him

652
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: to play corner, I want him to play wide receiver,

653
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: but he can end up doing either. He is just

654
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: a better player. If you gave ten college football teams,

655
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: would you rather have Travis Hunter or would you rather

656
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: have either of the other two guys? They would take

657
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter and then you just figure it out. I

658
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: think that's part of it. Like, I think we're so

659
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: set on having a decision what he's gonna do. Let

660
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: it just play out. Let it just play out. He

661
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: is an I think he's a pretty special talent, and

662
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: I think part of what makes him so intriguing as

663
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: a dB is like he'll tackle. So I would take

664
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter over either one of those players. Now, you

665
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: are right that if you got the risk would be

666
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: you're in a couple of years. He can't quite find

667
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: his footing at either one, but he's dabbling in both,

668
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: and you kind of get pasted, right, because it's like,

669
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do in life. If you

670
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: are spread thin, it's harder to improve, right. So, like,

671
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: how does let's use an example, Derek Stingley get a

672
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: lot better at corner well every single day since he's

673
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: been in the league, everything he does revolves around playing

674
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: defensive back. The meetings, the training, practice, the games. It's

675
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: one playing cornerback. Right, How has Jamar Chase gotten better

676
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: over the last five years? Every single day is about

677
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: playing wide out, running routes, catching the ball. You spread

678
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: yourself thin, like, if I try to do seven other

679
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: things beside podcasting, podcasting would get shittier, this show would

680
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: get worse, right, So it's like that is a concern,

681
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: though I think you just kind of let the cream

682
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: rise and then focus. If he's able to play both,

683
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: it'd be one of the greatest stories of all time.

684
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: I mean it really would. I'm skeptical, but I would

685
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: have been skeptical that he could have pulled off what

686
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: he pulled off. Now could he have done in the

687
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: SEC I don't know. It would have been more difficult.

688
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have, but would he have had

689
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: the same success. Maybe? Do you think the saga with

690
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Nico and Tennessee will have a ripple effect on college

691
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: football in the current state of the NIL. I was

692
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: talking to someone who had interviewed for GM jobs. I

693
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: think when would it have been. I think it would

694
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: have been a couple of months ago. I was almost

695
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: said last year, but I actually think it was like

696
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: in December, and he said, by far, the worst time

697
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: to be a college GM has been the previous six months.

698
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: In the next six months because there are no rules

699
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: and eventually they think I don't know the exact date,

700
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: but over the course of the next calendar year, the

701
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: revenue sharing will be set. So right now you're dealing

702
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: with everyone that was going to try to be double

703
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: dipping and having these situations. It has reached a boiling

704
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: point of like there are no rules, there are no regulations,

705
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: everyone's cheating, no one's getting any trouble. So this is

706
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: a very very difficult time to be in that position.

707
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: So I do believe once the revenue sharing gets figured

708
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: out that things will stabilize a little. I still think

709
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty complicated that if like, okay,

710
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: you got a salary cap? Is it like the NFL?

711
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Do quarterbacks get more? Do the left tackles get more?

712
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Because in college football, like, why should my left tackle

713
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: get more if he's not an NFL left tackle? My

714
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: middle linebacker is going to be the thirteenth, you know,

715
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: seventeenth overall pit I have Rokwon Smith, right, because college

716
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: unlike the NFL, it's like, Okay, this guy's a really

717
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: good player at right guard, I'm gonna pay him, right,

718
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: But like what if you know in college football the

719
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: best player in your team is like Quentin Nelson, It's

720
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: like that guy makes less than the quarterback. That's where

721
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna be complicated. I would imagine they're working on

722
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: that right now, but be interesting to see how that

723
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: plays out. Question for the mailback, which group of five

724
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: school since two thousand do you believe would have had

725
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: the best chance to win a national championship with the

726
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: current playoff bracket? I e. Kellen Moore erat Boise or

727
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Cincinnati Wildcats. I would say the Kellen

728
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: Moore team at Boise would have destroyed the Cincinnati team.

729
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: You can't, I mean, Desmond Ritter. I think Boise is

730
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: a ten point favorite in that game, and I do

731
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: think it would be difficult unless you got the buye.

732
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't think a non Power four team could win

733
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: four games do what Ohio State just did or Notre

734
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: Dame attempted to do. I think it'd be really, really difficult.

735
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't think either one could well. I think we

736
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: saw I forget, who does Cincinnati play. I watched them

737
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: in a bowl game and they got destroyed, So definitely

738
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: not them. South Carolina Gamecock fan and Spencer Rattler was

739
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: really good when he played for US, and I want

740
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: to see the game Cocks do good with all of

741
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: Derek Carr talk about being hurt this season, I think

742
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: that's complete BS. I think Albert Breer put out something today.

743
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: I saw it on Pro Football Talk that some of

744
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: it is in regards to he wants to trade he's

745
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: not happy with Kellen Moore. Derek Carr is not gonna

746
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: get a shoulder surgery and be out for the year.

747
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I do not believe that for a second. I'm not

748
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: quite sure what's going on with him in the Saints.

749
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they're paying him forty million dollars, but I

750
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: think that My guess is Derek carrs are starting quarterback.

751
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, but I would be a little shocked

752
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: if he's not. I don't think Spencer Rattler's I could.

753
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I know he had a good year for you guys,

754
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure he's an NFL starting quarterback, which

755
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: you transition to become a backup and be a good player.

756
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't see that. One question

757
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: for the pod, if you and your future kids were

758
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be great athletes, If your future kids

759
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: were lucky enough to be great athletes, what would you

760
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: prefer to be a dad of super Bowl winning quarterback,

761
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, hard hitting, dominant linebacker or defensive player,

762
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: major Masters winning golfer, Olympic winning sprinter, world champion, UFC fighter,

763
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: hall of Fame, NBA player. That's a good question, is

764
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: if I'm just rooting for their financial success. If you're

765
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame NBA player, you are basically a

766
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: lock to be worth minimum four hundred plus million dollars

767
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: if you have just a you know, even if you

768
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: got hurt like you're ten or eleven, like you were

769
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: going to make so much money. So in terms of

770
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: setting up my child financially, for his all children financially,

771
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: that is number one choice. You could be a Super

772
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Bowl winning quarterback and you know, Nick Foles ended up

773
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, But it doesn't guarantee that

774
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, the top quarterback. It could just

775
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: be the circumstance though, that you become a pretty legendary

776
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: figure there. Winning sprinter, no chance, World champion, UFC fighter,

777
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: no chance, because really like there's a small small few

778
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: of like even the champions that have made huge money

779
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: and become stars. Like to me, Connor is a little

780
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: bit of an outlier for me selfishly, golfer, because if

781
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: you're a Master's winning golfer, you're just gonna be rich

782
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have access to all these courses, which

783
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: gives you want to play with your dad. Now, you

784
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: could argue as a quarterback or an NBA Hall of Famer,

785
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: you probably would get similar opportunities. So it would be

786
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: one of those three. If I was just rooting for

787
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: his financial success, hall of Fame NBA player would have

788
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: to be number one. I think in terms of to

789
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: win the Asters or the super Bowl would be cooler

790
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: than being a Hall of Fame NBA player, though you

791
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: might not be as rich, but maybe I'm not. I

792
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: don't care about my son's financial outlook. Obviously he's not

793
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: hurting if he accomplishes that. So it would be one

794
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: of those three. My kids never playing in the NBA,

795
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: and more than likely is not only never playing in

796
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: the NFL. Definitely not a quarterback. So I would say

797
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: the thing that has the best opportunity UFC fighter, no chance, sprinter,

798
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: absolutely none. We're very we run flat footed in my family,

799
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: but bad bad foot athlete, not very fast. It would

800
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: golfs are our only opportunity. What are the Chiefs' biggest

801
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: glaring draft needs well, offensive line. You know you lose

802
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Joe Thuni though I think the guy you drafted from

803
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: BYU that he started at left tackle. They're gonna put

804
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: a guard. You sign the dude from the Niners. But

805
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: he's a backup though, you know he can be a starter,

806
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: I think, but how good can he be? I don't

807
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: know Kenny end up playing left hand right tackle. I

808
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: think it's just offensive line to mean offensive line. I

809
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: also think, you know, this is a pretty good tight

810
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: end draft. Could you take a tight end to fill

811
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: in Kelsey's shoes because that is a position that is

812
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: very conducive for good quarterbacks. I mean, Lamar Jackson has

813
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: good tight ends, right, Josh Allen? What they do a

814
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: couple of years ago they drafted a tight end in

815
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: the first round. Now we'll see if kink how good

816
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: he turns out? And they got Dawson Knox. I mean

817
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. You know, with Tyreek leaving, I mean the

818
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: guy that he's going to be most synonymous with when

819
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: his career, at least the first half of his career

820
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: is Travis Kelcey. So tight end is quarterback's best friend.

821
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: You think about great quarterbacks too, you know Tom Brady Gronkowski,

822
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Dallas Clark, and then when he went to

823
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: the who's his tight end with the Denver Broncos former

824
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: basketball player Julius Thomas. You have Elway Shan and Sharp,

825
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Brent Jones, far of Chimura, Rogers always had

826
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: good guys, So it's like it's kind of an important position.

827
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: I would say tight end in theory. You know, for

828
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: she Rice healthy, you have a what's his name? The

829
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Texas, Get some skill guys, draft another

830
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: running back. To me, it's offense. A big fan of

831
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: the show, as painful as it is, I'm a lifelong

832
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: Browns fan. To me, it's painfully obvious they should draft

833
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: Carter and take a flyer on a guy like Dart

834
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: or McCord later. But I think there's still a chance

835
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: they take Shador. Since the shit show that was the

836
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Watson trade, there seems to be a massive cloud of

837
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: negativity surrounding them. Understandably, so in taking Shador seems like

838
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: it would get the vibes going in the right direction.

839
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the right approach. If they

840
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: do take him, do you think it's legit football reasons

841
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: or do you think they do it to help turn

842
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: the page. I think I saw a headline today that

843
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: some anonymous scout said that if Shador ends up going

844
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: in the first round, it's because an owner wants him.

845
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: I do think if you're head coach, who is also

846
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: your play caller in the brown situation, I think he's

847
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: the play caller. They give it up, like I can't

848
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: keep track of Stefanski in the play calling, but offensive

849
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: mine head coach, he should more than the GM get

850
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: the say on the quarterback. If I was a GM

851
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL in my coach. It's one thing if

852
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: he's a defensive guy or CEO head coach, But if

853
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: it's my coach is one of these offensive guys, and

854
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: obviously Stefanski falls under that category. It's like you need

855
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: to have full conviction on the quarterback. So if he

856
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: does not, I would not if he wants him and

857
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: thinks he'd be good in the offense. It's why I think, like,

858
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: do I think Stefanski wanted Deshaun Watson? I don't. I

859
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: know that Jimmy has them, not that he didn't want

860
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: him for like one hundred and fifty million dollars, but

861
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: once it got out of control. I don't think the

862
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: Stefanski and the GM one. I think it was all

863
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: the owner. So if they drafted him, I just have

864
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing, you know, a weaker arm quarterback though,

865
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: like they not that they have high expectations, but traded

866
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: for Kenny Pickett, who doesn't have a great arm. So

867
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I would be I doubt it happens.

868
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's just a gut from the outside.

869
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's hard to you never know, and

870
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: we get shocked. Not no one in a million year.

871
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: So Michael Pennix go to the Falcons, But that makes

872
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: some sense. Pennix doesn't have He actually has a strong

873
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: arm in terms of he can throw a deep ball,

874
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have like Josh Allen Herbert just absolute howitzer.

875
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: But he plays in adult it's actually a good, really

876
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: good spot for him. I don't know if the AFC

877
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: north the weather. You know, Chador's arm is you know,

878
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: on the scale of like really strong and shitty is

879
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: somewhere kind of in the middle. To me, if you're Shador,

880
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: you would much rather go to like a Dome team.

881
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: You'd much rather go the Saints. What are the odds?

882
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: Cam Ward is a lesser version of Kyler Murray. I

883
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: think part of the Kyler package is that he's really short. Right.

884
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: If Kyler was cam Ward's size, I think he would

885
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: be a pro Bowl level guy. Part of what makes

886
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: gives Kyler limitations is hard for him to see. I

887
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: truly believe that he is. I mean, Kyler's a remarkable talent,

888
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: but if you gave him four or five inches now,

889
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like he'd be Lamar Jackson, because who knows.

890
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't quite have the feel, but I think

891
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: he would be dramatically better. So Kyler is an elite

892
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: runner and athlete. I don't know if cam Ward is that. Now.

893
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Cam's got a big arm. I think he's a different

894
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: type player. I think he's much closer to like I'm

895
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: not comparing him to like the Mahomes, but Watson in

896
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: Houston like kind of a move around, make plays. He's

897
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: a lot different Kyler. I think was wondering what your

898
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: thoughts are on moving the draft too early to mid April.

899
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: It feels like it's been dragging on now for too

900
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: long a lot of coverage is becoming very boring and stale.

901
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: Do you think it would be a good idea to

902
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: move it earlier. I've never really thought about it. But

903
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: if you move it earlier, then what are we talking

904
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: about right now? And let's say it was a week ago, Like,

905
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: what are we talking about now? So it's like, I

906
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: think you can play that game till you're blue in

907
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: the face. Should we move this so we can talk

908
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: about it? It's like the draft talk always gets stale.

909
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: If there aren't a loaded quarterback class, you're only as

910
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: strong as your quarterbacks, and this doesn't have a strong

911
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: quarterback class. Plus, I just think in general, draft talk

912
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: always gets kind of boring. By April, we've been talking

913
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: about these guys out with the explosion of college football

914
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: for six months. What else were gonna say? They haven't

915
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: played a game in you know, almost half a year.

916
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean some of these guys haven't played a game

917
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: since like early December. So you think in January, February, March, April,

918
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: and if all of December some of these guys are

919
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: four and a half five months away from actually putting

920
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: on pats. Think about that. I guess some of them

921
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: played in the Senior Bowl. But a question for the POD.

922
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: I know you aren't a huge fan of spring leagues,

923
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: but do you see any value in a developmental league

924
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: for the NFL. I was watching the UFL this weekend

925
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: to scratch my football edge and can't help but notice

926
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: a number of NFL guys Kellen mand Damon Arnette, and

927
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of random dudes that had stints. It makes

928
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: me wonder if Trey Lance's career would have went different

929
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: if you got valuable reps early in his tenure to

930
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: be a better equipped for the NFL. Coaching wouldn't be

931
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: an issue either, since Ken Wizhunt, Mike Nolan, Wade Phillips,

932
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: I think the problem is I hear you, but like

933
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: let's say, after project in like the third or fourth round,

934
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm not giving him to that league in the spring.

935
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: What if someone shatters his leg, I'm gonna try to

936
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: develop them. The problem is with the CBA, it's hard

937
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: to develop guys. But if I was the team, if

938
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: I own the team, or I was the coach or

939
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the GM, I would never allow that player to go

940
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: play in this league because what if he tears ACL?

941
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: What if he gets injured? Like the the ROI is like,

942
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he can improve, Well, what offense are they running?

943
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: Plus the owners are never going to pay for the league.

944
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: Why would they, They don't have to. College football does

945
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: that for him? So, like you listed some of these guys,

946
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: they're trying to keep their career going. I just I

947
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying about Trey Lance, and I think

948
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys would benefit from being able to

949
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: do that. But it's never going to be available. This

950
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: isn't you know. In basketball, it's easy. It's like I

951
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: can draft a guy tenth overall and I just send

952
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: him to the G league. He's just playing basketball. The

953
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: likelihood of him there were the miners in baseball. Football

954
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: is not like that. And I just can't take the

955
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: risk of you shattering your shoulder because you're my second

956
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: round pick, but you're not ready. I needed to get

957
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: more reps and then all of a sudden you have

958
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: a major injury and then it doesn't even there is

959
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: no development you get. It ends up being a step back.

960
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: So I hear what you're saying. Okay, it's like And

961
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: also just because Mike Nolan and Wade Phillips, I think

962
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: what you do is you scout that league and maybe

963
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: some of those teams are running some similar concepts and

964
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: you see a guy that you kind of like and

965
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: you sign him. But I don't think you'd ever give

966
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: your guide to them. Forty nine or for life question,

967
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: what do we got to do to get Trevor? Lawrence

968
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: feels like Kyle, compared to his dad, never truly had

969
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: his quarterback. Trevor kind of been on life support playing

970
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: hero ball for the perennial shittyguars and paying Purdy will

971
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: be a mistake. We're in transition, haven't paid for a quarterback,

972
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: and it's before the draft. Honestly, blow this bleep up.

973
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: I think a quarterback like Trevor can elevate a mediocre

974
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: supporting cast. I'm out. I'm an out dog. Not that

975
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: he can't be a solid player, but he's under a

976
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: contract that pay him two hundred million dollars guaranteed. I

977
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: would not trade for the player. If I ever acquired

978
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: the player, it'd have to be for really, really cheap,

979
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: and given how much he makes, that's not possible. I

980
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: also think, like the difference of him and Party. I

981
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: know Purdy, there is no one has ever questioned ever,

982
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: how much football is his life? Obviously, you know Brock,

983
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: he's newly married and faith are a big part of

984
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: his life. But when you think Brock Purty, you think God, family, football.

985
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: When I think Trevor Lawrence, like is he all in,

986
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, came out before the draft

987
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: like football is not ever. I'm sorry. That's a red

988
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 1: flag to me. I'm out. I just am and listen.

989
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: It's not all his fault. The organization is is chaotic,

990
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: but he has been extremely underwhelming given the hype where

991
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: Perdy has You know, I think Kobe Bryant said this

992
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: one time, like what would you want to be remembered

993
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: as like a talented overachiever? Like I want more Like

994
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: some of the best players in the league are also overachievers,

995
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: like TJ Watt, Fred Warner, Travis Kelce, Like I like

996
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: my talent to be overachievers. Like it feels like Trevor's

997
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: an underachiever. Now, if I can acquire him in a

998
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: couple of years for nothing, then yeah, I'm interested. But one,

999
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: they wouldn't trade him, and if they did, you'd have

1000
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: to blow them away, and it's not worth the risk

1001
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: giving how much money he makes I'd rather have party,

1002
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: which is a problem because Perdy would go, I've been

1003
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: better than him, and look how much money he got.

1004
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: I want that, which, in fairness to him and his agent,

1005
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: like they're not wrong. Panthers fan, during a rebuild with

1006
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, how heavy do you weigh the draft

1007
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: decisions on offense versus defense? If you go offense, you

1008
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: give Bryce more weapons to see full potential. If you

1009
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: go defense, you're trying to not put as much pressure

1010
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: on him. I guess the question is should you surround

1011
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: a young quarterback with as much offensive talent as possible

1012
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: or build the overall team and see if the young

1013
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: quarterback has what it takes. I don't think there's a

1014
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: right answer on this, because a great defense helps out

1015
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: your offense. But as a young quarterback, if you don't

1016
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: have pieces around you. Remember a couple of years ago, you, guys,

1017
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: your talent on the team was awful, but an offense

1018
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: was really bad. Well, last year you made some moves

1019
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 1: for the offensive line. The offensive line, especially up the middle,

1020
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: is good. You add Xavier Lagett, He's a talented player.

1021
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: What pick you, guys, drafting like ninth or tenth? I

1022
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: don't think there's a right or wrong answer. You've drafted

1023
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: a left tackle pretty recently in that what's the guy's

1024
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: name from NC State. I'll be honest, I can't really

1025
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: tell you how he's played or you know better than me,

1026
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to see what pick that you guys

1027
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: have eight. I think you can do whatever you want.

1028
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: If you take a defensive lineman, won't blame you, right,

1029
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: and that would be my guess. It's really really hard

1030
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: to function if you do go offense, your offense gonna

1031
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: be your defensive roster is not good, so there is

1032
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on the defense to just be serviceable. Now,

1033
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: you could also say, we'll see on the Atlanta Falcons.

1034
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a Penix guy, but that organization always

1035
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: lets you down. The Bucks are clearly good on offense,

1036
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: and the Saints, who knows. I don't have a great

1037
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: answer for you. I would just I would lean probably

1038
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I think you're better off taking a defensive

1039
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: lineman there and taking a skill guy in the second round.

1040
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: That would be what I would be inclined to do.

1041
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: I would take the best defensive lineman at pick eight,

1042
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: and then I would take the best running back, the

1043
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: best tight end, the best wide receiver, whatever in the

1044
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: second round. That's probably That's how I'd be thinking. Potentially

1045
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: a defense too. I don't know, but I would I

1046
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 1: This is where GMS tell you can't draft for need.

1047
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 1: So whatever your board says, who's the best player that's

1048
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: on the board at pick eight, whoever goes one through seven,

1049
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: whoever is your top graded player, take that and then

1050
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: if all things are equal, you know lean line over.

1051
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: I would say a wide receiver, because there's not a

1052
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver at eight. That's good enough in this draft

1053
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: in my opinion. What's your take or assessment on the

1054
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: late great Steve McNair. He doesn't get talked about much,

1055
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: but in his prime he was a top five quarterback

1056
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. This is a hard one because I

1057
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: would say in his prime of his career, I was

1058
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: in like junior high in high school, so I didn't

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: quite watch especially him specifically relative to how I would

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: now if he had played over the last fifteen twenty years.

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I would say this. I do remember like him against

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00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders, him against the Ravens. When I think Steve McNair,

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: the first thing I think about is toughness, Like he

1064
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: had to be, pound for pound, one of the tougher

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00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: players in the league. I do not think it's random

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00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: that when he left the Titans, the Ravens signed him.

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: And when you think about the type guys the raven

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00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: sign like typically tough guys, Like when I and Ozzie

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00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Knewsome's thing always was like, we like guys that in

1070
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: our world play like a raven outside of the building,

1071
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: and when they become available, we try to try to

1072
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: acquire him and Kwan Bolden, Steve Smith Senior, Kalais Campbell.

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00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Kalais Campbell played for the Ravens.

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00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: No, he's just back with h I think he did.

1075
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Now I'm questioning myself, how good is my NFL knowledge? Yeah,

1076
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: he played for the Ravens a couple of years.

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00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: Part of it is like in Steve McNair's time, he

1078
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: played against you know, Paydon Manning, Tom Brady, two of

1079
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks of all time. Farve was still around.

1080
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's quite a Hall of Famer,

1081
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: but my standards for Hall of Fame. But he was

1082
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: a badass. I mean he was. Steve McNair was sweet

1083
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: and like I said, gotta be one of the pound

1084
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: for pound tough for players in his generation. Any position, linebackers, linemen,

1085
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: you name it, that is a tough You know what

1086
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: Ben listen to this is enjoy the show. I need

1087
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: to accept the NIL. I know we need to accept

1088
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: the NAL, and I agree there needs to be some

1089
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: sort of compensation with how much revenue the athletes generate.

1090
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: But one thing I never hear is how it affects

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00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: the fans. Not knowing from year to year who will

1092
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: be on the team is frustrating and makes me wane

1093
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: a bit. Also, why do most media personalities always blame

1094
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: the system when a player gets greedy? Nico, the player

1095
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: is never held accountable. A lot of former players, I

1096
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: would say, are on quote unquote these shows, and a

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01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: lot of media is just anti establishment, so that they

1098
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: all are very predictable. It's why I don't consume most

1099
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: of them, because you can give me every topic and

1100
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: I already know their opinion before I even press play.

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: I would say, no one gets more disrespected in the

1102
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things in the business of sports than

1103
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: the fans. The media are constantly talking shit to you.

1104
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, the former players always act like, pay everybody,

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: pay everybody, pay everybody. And this is I'm not necessarily

1106
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: talking about college, but I hear you, the most important

1107
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: people of this entire business are the fans. All this money,

1108
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: all of it is because of them. And sometimes if

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: I remember saying that on Twitter one time, like five

1110
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: years ago, and a bunch of people are like, no,

1111
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: it's because of the TV networks. Well, no, shit, why

1112
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: do you think they're willing to pay because people watch?

1113
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: But I think the faster you realize that, you know,

1114
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: the media one that there I would say understanding of business,

1115
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: and I'm generalizing here, some understand but for the most part,

1116
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: and I've been around some of these guys and a

1117
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: lot of them actually they have no comprehension of how

1118
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: the world works. Feels that they can feel a little

1119
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: out of touch when it comes to business for a

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01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: group that covers a business. And I think there's a

1121
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: difference of like, yeah, the NCAA sucks, everyone's been saying

1122
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: that forever, and like these players are getting scammed and listen,

1123
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: I like j Billis, but he said the same thing

1124
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: for twenty years. When all the top players in college

1125
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: basketball in the Internet era, we're getting hundreds of thousands

1126
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: of dollars, Yeah, instead of getting four hundred grand under

1127
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: the table. Could they have been worth millions? Yeah, but

1128
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: he had like no one got any money. It was

1129
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: just completely it was just bullshit. It was just not true,

1130
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: and he knew it. Fuck his program was paying them,

1131
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: which again I don't care, pay whoever you want, but

1132
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: we can't pretend these guys were getting broken off. Even

1133
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: Colin mentioned it the other day. Why did we act

1134
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: like these kids weren't getting taken care of? Negros? Make

1135
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: it two and a half million dollars. He threw one

1136
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: touchdown against Florida, Bama, Georgia, Arkansas, and Ohio State. One

1137
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: total touchdown. One. It's fucking embarrassing. The reason you go

1138
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: to Tennessee, the reason you go to Bama, the reason

1139
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: you go to LSU, the reason you go to Georgia.

1140
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna play Chattanooga State and McNee State and some

1141
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: random program in uh September. But how about when the

1142
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: lights get bright and Kirby and his squad rolls through,

1143
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Day and his squad rolls through, or Alabama shows

1144
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: up and I know they beat Alabama. It was just

1145
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: one touchdown. He threw, but it's like, bro, I'm gonna

1146
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: need a little bit more. Can we get some fucking

1147
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: touchdown throws? I mean, it's part of your negotiating. Poy.

1148
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: I'd argue he was overpaid based on his performance. They

1149
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: expected more. The reason they were in the playoffs was

1150
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: not Nico. I don't think anyone would debate that. I

1151
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: don't care what was the team that they beat, like

1152
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: seventy to ten. No one gives a shit about that game, nobody.

1153
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you look like against Georgia, Florida,

1154
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State. You lost to Arkansas. So I just think

1155
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: that all four paying these guys but not everyone is

1156
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: always getting screwed. I just think that's their first reaction

1157
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: you turn on some of these shows. Everyone's constantly getting

1158
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: fucked bs. What about the guy that's screwing you? Like

1159
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee might have been like, can we get a rebate?

1160
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: You notice that you never get your money back. The

1161
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: Sons don't get their money back from Bradley Beal, who

1162
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: tried less hard than I've ever seen any professional athlete

1163
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: of any game I've ever been to. It was an

1164
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: eye opening experience. This is what you get for fifty

1165
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: million dollars. There has never been a business deal with

1166
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: anyone else where. You've got less in return than the

1167
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: people that have paid Bradley Beial over the last several years.

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01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, but no one will ever talk about like, yeah,

1169
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: should he give like half his money back? Like because

1170
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: in most of our industries, if you have a dispute

1171
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: like you go to court and you start arguing over like, yeah,

1172
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: this is not worth that I got screwed here, never

1173
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: happens that way. No one goes, hey, hey, Nico, that

1174
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: four million dollars we've paid you for the last two years,

1175
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: can we get two of those back now that you're

1176
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: leaving because we didn't think he lived up to the hype.

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01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: You couldn't pay anyone on television to say that. Yet

1178
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: that's how the fans think. I think. The faster you

1179
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: when you realize as a fan that most, especially the

1180
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: traditional media, they kind of hate you, They really do.

1181
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: They don't really like you. They look down upon you.

1182
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: And the faster you realize it, the easier it is

1183
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: to turn off their shit. Why so many of them

1184
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: are holding on for dear life. Thank you for coming

1185
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: to my Ted talk and have a great day, see it,

1186
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: The volume