1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: your host Spencer new Hearth. I'm Spencer new Heart and 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: this is Wired to hunts Rut Fresh Radio powered by 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: First Love. Welcome to Wired to hunts What Fresh Radio. 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I am your host, Spencer new Hearth, and this week 7 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: I am joined by Mark Kenyon, but he is not 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: at his computer like he normally is. Why is that, Mark? 9 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: For very very good reason, Spencer's because I'm sitting in 10 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: a truck in Iowa, great White Tail state that I 11 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm here for rut Cation one, and it's very excited 12 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: about it. I like it. And this isn't just any 13 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: ordinary trip to Iowa though. You have a cameraman with you, 14 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: and in the morning, I'm gonna have a cameraman with me, 15 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: and so is Tony Peterson and so is claiming you 16 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: can talk about that, Mark, Yeah, yeah, man. We're kicking 17 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: off of a really cool project here. The four of 18 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: us are all hunting across the country. And I know 19 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: we tease this a little bit, I think last week, 20 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: but I'll read it again. The four of us are 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: all hunting this week. So November one through seven, four 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: different places across the country, and we will be telling 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: the story of that one week across our four storylines. 24 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Our four experiences are diverse experiences, UM, and seeing what 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the White Tail Rut can what it can give us. 26 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Who knows? Who knows it's gonna happen. It's likely or 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: at least hopefully gonna be action packed. Uh, conditions look good, 28 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: at least from what I'm saying. I'm sure we'll talk 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: about that in a second, but but yeah, that's gonna 30 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: be getting filmed this week and then we will be 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: publishing that for the world to follow along with later 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: this month on the Meat Eater YouTube channel, So everyone 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: makes sure to stay tuned for that, make sure you 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: subscribed to the meta or YouTube channel to see how 35 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: this all goes down. So very very exciting and high hope. 36 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: So this week, that's right, first episode should be dropping 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: probably in like two or three weeks from now, and 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm not certain what that date is, but by the 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: ann November, UM, the first episode or two of the 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: show is going to be out. UM. So we are 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: here though to talk about Buck movement, and it is 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: officially November. It is officially the rut for most of 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: the White Tales range. And I think Mark, there's something 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: that you do a good job of emphasizing when it 45 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: comes to hunting the rut, and that is that we 46 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: sort of think about this moment for like three sixty 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: five days a year, and then it gets here, and 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: maybe the ruts not happening like you expected it to, 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: and you can maybe overthink things and become pessimistic. Um 50 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: and and your rut isn't happening like a rut should. 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: In that case, I always hear you preach the kiss 52 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: method of hunting the rut. Go over that forest, Mark 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: what that means and why you think that's important for 54 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: hunting this time of year. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad to 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: bring it up, Spencer, because it might be at least 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: at least for me, it might be the very most 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: important thing that I need to be reminded of every 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: single year come this time of year, because, like you mentioned, 59 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: we build up the rut so much, we have such 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: high expectations for it. There's so much written about the rut, 61 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: there's so much talked about when it comes to the rut. 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: There's so many shows about the rut. You know, there's 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: a million different ways your mind could go when you're 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: thinking about how the rut should be and how you 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: should be hunting during the rut, and what you should 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: be seeing and what you should be experiencing it. YadA, YadA, 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Like you said, you can get confused, you 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: can get paralyzed, you can get frustrated. Whenever I feel 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: any inkling of that, whenever I feel lost or don't 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: know what to do, or I don't know why things 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: aren't going the way they should be, I just remind myself, 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, to keep it simple and to focus 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: on two step back and look at the foundations that 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: the pillars of hunting the rut, and those two pillars 75 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: for me are number one does. Focus on the does. 76 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Whenever you're lost or stuck in the rut, go back 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: to that where the does. Where do the does spend 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: the most of their time? So that's doe betting areas typically, 79 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: or that's doughe feeding areas, And if you don't order 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: to start, that is a really really good place to 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: point to. So number one of the pillars of rhuting 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: success is no where the does aren't be there because 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: that's where the bucks want to be right now, bucks 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: are trying to find females that are ready to breed. 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: If you know where the does are, you know where 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: the bucks are going to be. That right there can 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: be the simplest solution to whole lot of problems. The 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: second thing I would like to focus on, the second foundation. 89 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Second pillar, is any kind of travel corridor, funnel or 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: pinch point that focuses and tightens down dear movement, because again, 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: bucks are traveling a lot more than usual to try 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: to find those doughs. So they're trying to get from 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: Doe hot spot to do hot spot to do hot spot. 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Anywhere the terrain or habitat or some kind of feature 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: constricts movement into a narrower than usual way, that's going 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: to be a good place during the rut. So two 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: things right there. If ever you're lost, look for one 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: of those two things. Or in a perfect world, if 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: you can get those two things combined, you really have 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: a dynamite ruts up. If you can be in a 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: pinch point that's maybe downwind of dough betting area, holy smoke, 102 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: sits your butt down there and just wait because good 103 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: things are coming. And and that's that's an oversimplifies view 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: of the rut, of course, but oftentimes you need to 105 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: just focus on the simple basis of things to get 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: your head right again, to get your recentered on the 107 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: right places to be. Because sometimes if you get too 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: much into the weeds, you get you just get bogged 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: down in it. So I like to do that. I 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: like to take a step back, keep it simple. Make 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: sure that any decision I'm making, any you know, should 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: I hunt this true or that true? Should I hunt 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: this spot of this spot? It's got to pass the test. 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: Does it fulfill one of those two pillars? Does it 115 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: check the box from one of those two things or 116 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: both of those two things. If it doesn't, then what 117 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: the heck am I doing there? It's oftentimes me getting 118 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: too fancy. You're trying to think I'm smarter than I am. 119 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: So so that right there, I think is is a 120 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: good thing for everyone to keep in mind over the 121 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. If you're ever feeling lost, fall 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: back on the foundations. Yeah. And if I were to 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: add a third pillar to this, I think that would 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: be just being in the woods, simply being out there. 125 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: It can be easy this time of year. If like 126 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: November one through five, it isn't happening for you. It 127 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: can be easy to talk yourself out of a haunt, 128 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: saying that the weather isn't right, or the moon isn't right, 129 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: or your trail cameras have gone cold or something like that. 130 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: But the realities these next two weeks are the best 131 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: two weeks of hunting for most of the country. Um 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: And you can't like get those days back when it's 133 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden December, and so be in the 134 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: woods as much as you possibly can for these next 135 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Um. And you do that, combined with 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: being around doughes and being around pinch points, good things 137 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: are gonna happen, for sure. Yeah, I agree, and and 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: thankfully this week we actually got pretty good conditions across 139 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of parts of the country at least, so 140 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: there's no excuse not to be in the wood. There's 141 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: no warm front like last year. There's nothing to complain about. 142 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: It's just good, good, good good. That's right. And the 143 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: hunters that you're gonna hear from this week giving you 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: your report or Josh Honeycutt from Real Tree in Kentucky, 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Mike hun Sucker in Colorado, from Heartland bow Hunter, Alex 146 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: Comstock from whitetail DNA in Minnesota, and Clay Newcombe from 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: media during bear grease in Arkansas. And you're reading materials 148 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: this week, um. The first article is three Unconventional white 149 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: tailed rott hunting Tactics from Dylan Trump. Dylan introduces three 150 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: unorthodox tactics to implement for when you're rott haunts have 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: been very slow. How to Hunt the white tail rout 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: in Big Woods by Bou Martonic Bow goes over the 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: nuances of hunting big timber in November, which is his expertise. 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: And then what is the best day of the white 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: tail Rut? By me I interviewed ten big buck killers 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: and asked them for their favorite day of the rut 157 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: and there was a pretty consistent answer, which you can 158 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: get in that article. And then the last thing, which 159 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: is sort of what you just previewed, Mark, is the 160 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Rules of the white Tail Rout an article that you 161 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: wrote where Mark goes over his kiss strategy and what 162 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: the four rules are that every white tailor should be 163 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: following this time of year. Spencer, what's your prediction for 164 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: the next seven weeks or seven days? Do you expect 165 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: a one through ten or what do you expect on 166 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: the one through ten rating? And what I was trying 167 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: to say there a second ago, do you expect one 168 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: tag failed? Two tags failed? What are you gonna put 169 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: down the ground this week? These next ten days, you're 170 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a ten out of ten if if you 171 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: are anywhere that has a traditional white tail routs and 172 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: not in like the very deep South or something like that. 173 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: This is it. This, This is the ten out of ten. 174 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the weather is doing, what the 175 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: moon's doing, stuff like that. Um, this is the best 176 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: going to get for my personal hunting. I'm gonna be optimistic. 177 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna fill two tags between now and 178 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: the next time we record a Rout Fresh radio episode. 179 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: And uh, that podcast is gonna be real long because 180 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna have a lot to talk about when 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: I come in with two less tags than now. Oh man, 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: you heard it here, Lazy Venture was gonna kill a 183 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: big old stinking buck in Montana and a big one 184 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: in Wyoming. Right, that's right, And you're gonna have one 185 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: in Iowa, an Tony's gonna have one in Wisconsin. H 186 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Clay's gonna have one in Arkansas. Everyone's gonna have a 187 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: deer on the ground. Oh man, knock on wood, buddy. 188 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: I sure hope you don't come back to this one 189 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: next week and we all have nothing tagged. I know, 190 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I know, all right, Mark, I will talk to you 191 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: next week. Sounds good, buddy, Good luck all right? And 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: joining us online first is Josh Honeycutt from Real Tree 193 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: in Kentucky. Now, Josh in Kentucky, what would you say 194 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: one to ten. Yeah, I mean for the past few days, 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: it's probably been a six and a half, maybe a seven. Um, 197 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: it was a little bit better at the end of 198 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: last week. Um. It kind of tapered off a little 199 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: bit this weekend, but uh yeah, I think that was 200 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: mostly weather related. What are you seeing for signmaking right 201 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: now in Kentucky. Yeah, rubs and scrapes are popping up 202 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: pretty rapidly, which is normal. It's time of year, um 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: for it. It's not it's not a peaks on yet, 204 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: but I'd say I'll probably get peaks on here within 205 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the next few days in early November. Where do you 206 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: want to be running your trail cameras? As we approached 207 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: the rut. Yeah, I mean this time of year right now, 208 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: I still like those on the scrapes, but not for 209 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: much longer. That's that's fixing the change, you know. At 210 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: that point, I kind of like to have them on 211 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: pitch points, um, along trails that are on the downward 212 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: sides of of betting areas. Uh. But really anything that 213 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: just pinches deer down, um, because like the bucks are 214 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna be traveling, uh from one spot to the next, 215 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: and they're gonna use the paths of least resistance so 216 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: long as the hunting pressure isn't preventing them from doing that. 217 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: So right now, I'm still like them on scrapes, probably 218 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: up until around November four, uh, and then that will 219 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: change to pinchpoints afterwards. This time of year in Kentucky, 220 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: are you doing any calling or decoying? Yeah, I haven't 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: done any newcoin yet, um, but that's gonna you know, 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: I've already filled my Kentucky buck tax. So I'm I'm 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: still in the Kentucky woods hunting with other or something. 224 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: I know what's what's happening out there. But I'll be 225 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: spending my time in Ohio and Indiana, um and and 226 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: I'll be doing a lot of calling and rattling as 227 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: well as some decoying there. What is a decoy set 228 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: up look like for you in Kentucky in early November 229 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: using a buck? Are you using a dough? Um? What 230 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: kind of area are you in? What's the posture of 231 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: the deer? I've never used a dough decoy, uh, I 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of people have success with that. UM. 233 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Almost always use a buck decoy. I like it set 234 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: up about probably about fifteen to twenty yards um. Some 235 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: people like to have a little closer, a little farther, 236 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: but I like it a fifteen to twenty that way. 237 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: If they hang up about ten yards past, if they're 238 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: still in in good range, you know, and uh, you know, 239 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: if they come in closer than that, I don't like 240 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: to have it ten That's just a little close for me, 241 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: especially if you're since falling or something like that, or 242 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: you have a little a little bit of a rogue, 243 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: uh win. But I like it about fifteen eighteen twenty 244 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: yards quartering slightly to me that way up a major deal. Generally, 245 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: if they approach that buck decoy, they're gonna approach your 246 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: head on. So that gives me either a broadside or 247 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: a quarter in a white shot in early November. Describe 248 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: your ideal set up when you're deer hunting in Kentucky. Yeah, 249 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: it depended on the situation. Every property is different, so 250 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: it's gonna be different from one from one property to 251 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: the next. But um, you know, from box hunting, I 252 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: like tight areas, pinch points where it condensed just your movement. Um, 253 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: come gun season, which are starts during the rut. I 254 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: like to be able to cover as much ground as possible, uh, 255 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, to maximize the efficiency of the weapon you're using. Um, 256 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: that does come with a caveat though, you know, I 257 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: like to be in good quality betting cover as well. 258 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: So that's kind of an oxymoron there. But one of 259 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: the properties that I kind of crp so it's it's 260 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: bed and cover, but it's also if you get high 261 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: enough up in a tree, you can cover a lot 262 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: of grounds, so you have the best of both worlds. 263 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: So I like good thick, early successional brushy cover. Um, 264 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: but I like to also be able to see as 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: much ground as possible. But the you know, come gun season, 266 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: which starts this year in Kentucky around and I think 267 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: November those are gonna start locking down and they're gonna 268 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: be in cover. So that's what you need to be. 269 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Whatever the best available bedding cover you have. Uh, that's 270 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: the spot. Historically in Kentucky, what's been your favorite day 271 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: of the rut? Yeah, I've never really had a favorite day. 272 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people do. Um My, my 273 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: success has been kind of spread out. But the peak 274 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: breeding in Kentucky, he generally takes place November fifteen, dish 275 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: kind of around you know, maybe fifteen, sixteen seventeen, that's 276 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: kind of the average day. But the window is really 277 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: November tenth, twenty, and I really prefer the five days 278 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: that lead up to that. So I'd say, you know, 279 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: even though I don't have a favorite day, my favorite 280 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: window is probably November fifth to tenth going forward. Then 281 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: in the next week or so, what do you think 282 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be on a scale 283 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Kentucky. Yeah, I think it's 284 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: gonna continually get better until around the tenth or so. 285 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: Um So it's only gonna gonna only improve from here 286 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: on out until about the tenth than you know, contray 287 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: to what people think. Every day in the woods doesn't 288 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: lock down at once, So you know, they talked about 289 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: the lockdown phase. It's more of a progression than than 290 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: a than a one day or two day events. So 291 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: not every dough in Buck's gonna be locked down simultaneously. 292 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: That's said. Whenever the bulk of the doz or an astress, 293 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a little bit of a decrease in movement, 294 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: as people oftentimes uh suggest so uh, you know, I 295 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: think it's gonna improve up till around November tenth. Then 296 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: you'll see a little bit of a decline. But it's 297 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: still even though that's what people quote unquote says the lockdown, 298 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: it's still look very time to be in the woods. 299 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Even though that's the case. You know, I think that 300 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: in November five to tenth, from time frame, you're gonna 301 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: see a ten. It'll probably drop down a little bit 302 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: after that, but yeah, I would say it'll be a 303 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: ten from November five to tenth, and probably from November 304 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: one to fifth it will probably be an eight or not. 305 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: All right, Josh, congrats on that great buck you killed 306 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: earlier this year in Kentucky. You good luck with the 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: rest of your fall, and thanks for joining me. Thank 308 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: you alright, and joining us on the line next is 309 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: Mike hun Sucker from Hartland bow Hunter in Colorado. Now, 310 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Mike in Colorado, what would you say the bucket activity 311 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: has been lately? On a scale of one to ten, man, 312 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: I would say it's it's heating up. I would say 313 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: probably a seven right right about now. I've been hunting 314 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: the past week and it has been really slow for 315 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the most part. And the switch seams really flipped just 316 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: a couple of days go. Um had a cold front 317 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: move in and Uh. The area that I hunt is 318 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: interesting because it's it's uh on the eastern plains and 319 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: so it gets cool in the evening. Um, it was 320 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: dipping down in the thirties, you know, and then but 321 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: it gets warm in the afternoon. So it was getting 322 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: up into the low eighties o our seventies, and so 323 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a cold front moved through and 324 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: that that seems to really just changed things. As far 325 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: as daylight movement, we were seeing plenty of doze uh 326 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: and small bucks and daylight, but finally, starting just a 327 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: few days ago, we started seeing some mature bucks really 328 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: cruising and starting to get pretty aggressive. What do you 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: notice about the differences when it comes to signmaking with 330 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: the white tails that you're hunting in the western Colorado 331 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: versus in your home state of Missouri. UM, as far 332 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: as sign and stuff, it's really not a whole lot 333 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: different there. They're they're you know, making rubs, tearing up 334 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: scrapes right now, UM, same as as they are in Missouri. UM. 335 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's not too far from western Kansas. So 336 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty similar as far as signmaking. And you know, 337 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: as of lately that's what most of our our trail 338 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: cameras moved to. Scrapes. The bucks have been checking them 339 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: pretty frequent. UM, you know, just waiting for those first 340 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: first those that come in the heat. They're getting pretty empty. 341 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: What food sources are relevant right now in Colorado, So 342 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: the food source we've this has been a learning curve 343 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: for us this year. UM. This property is under development 344 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: essentially for at frags and so when the landoun appurchased 345 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: a few years ago, it was really underdeveloped. UM. And 346 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: they've really worked on the water rights and getting some 347 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: of these fields in the production. And so one of 348 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: the uh I would say the key focus for us 349 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: has been over a green tritoricale field which is um, 350 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: you know similar, it's like a winter week to forge 351 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: triticala bill still turn cows out onto and and uh 352 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: feed cows on. But the deer I've been hammering. I 353 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: know this time of year. In the past, you've had 354 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot of success with decoying in bucks. So what 355 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: are your decoyest strategies in early November? Yeah, I mean 356 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I can't think of a better time and use a 357 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: decoy than writing it right now at October early November, UM, 358 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: actual getting aggressive. They're starting to push each other around 359 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: and really established dominance, and I think that you know, uh, 360 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: this is this is the most opportune time to use one. 361 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: So I've been using a lot this past week. UM. 362 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: Had to success with some younger deer, but no shot 363 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: off with any sin of macure here yet. It seems 364 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: like Mike, you're often using your decoys on a field edge. 365 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: Are there every scenarios where you're using one in cover? No? Um? 366 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, when it comes to decoying, I I like 367 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: to hear and be able to see the dear the 368 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: decoy from a long way away if possible. Um, just 369 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: because it's it's kind of like you know, ground blinds 370 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: at the depop up a double bowl or whatever in 371 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: the in a tight area and uh, the deer see 372 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna kind of freak out, um, and so hi, 373 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't don't want to catch them off guards. Usually 374 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm using it in open areas a lot of times 375 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: in areas off of like where the main you know, 376 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: concentration of deer is going to be. Because I'm sure 377 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: if you've ever used the decoy before, you know, the 378 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: dose can get real curious and get down when and 379 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: then pook off the decoy and kind of ruin your hunt. 380 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: So um, Fortunately in Colorado they've been very tolerable. But 381 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: those really don't pay much attention to the decoy in 382 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: the books. Um, you know, if they're get in that 383 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: comfort zone area and you call at them and get 384 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: them fired up there and they're coming in hot, tell 385 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: us about the posture of the decoy for early November. 386 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Are you going one antler or two antlers? What are 387 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: you doing with the tail, what are you doing with 388 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: the ears, et cetera. So that do I use the 389 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: Dave Smith DSD posturing buck decoy. So it's always a 390 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: posturing position. The years are are in a pinback position. Um, 391 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: I usually use both handlers. I guess you could just 392 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: throw one on there either way. Um, you know it's 393 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: a it's a baskular at hundred and five and eight point, 394 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: you know, trashy little brows. So it's um, you know 395 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: it's it's just perfect, like two year old type buck 396 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: and so, um, you're not gonna not gonna scare much 397 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: away with it. I don't feel like, especially if you're hunting, 398 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, mature dominant here now in your home state 399 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: of Missouri, what is your favorite day of the rod 400 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: or your favorite stretch of days of the rock? You know, 401 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: November seven has been the most productive for me over 402 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: the years. Um, but I do love these next few 403 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: days coming up here. Um, basically this next week for 404 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: for Missouri. You know, every day before rifle season is 405 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: is you know the best days, because once rifles hits, 406 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: it's just a whole different season. So I believe we 407 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: open on I want to say, like the thirteenth this year, so, um, 408 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, the seventh kind of lies right in the 409 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: middle of that sweet spot. But um, you know that's 410 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: been the most productive day for me, is the seventh. 411 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Describe your ideal set up if you're in a tree 412 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: stand on November seven? What are you overlooking? Why are 413 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: you in that area? Why are bucks want to be 414 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: in that area? So usually by November seven, I'm diving 415 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: into some cover, usually uh hunting mornings, um, you know, 416 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: hoping to catch tier coming back to betting areas on 417 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: the downward side of a betting area. You know, a 418 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: lot of times when bucks are gonna um, you know, 419 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: they're they're just cruising looking for a hot day. They're 420 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna be trying to be as most efficient as possible, 421 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: So they're gonna circle the downward side of these known 422 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: betting areas and just sent check them. You know, they're 423 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: not gonna just trump through zigzagg through the whole bedding 424 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: area looking for a hot dough. They're just gonna be 425 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: proven spin checking. And so a lot of times I'd 426 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: like to get on the down one side of a 427 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: known bedding area UM with some sort of obstruction to 428 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: whether it's a creek or a or a ridge, um 429 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: to where you know you can hopefully attention to heat 430 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: here from coming behind you and catch him on on 431 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: a pretty heavily used trail that miss down wind going forward. 432 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: Then in the sex week or so, what do you 433 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: think that buck activity is going to be on a 434 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Colorado? Oh, man, I 435 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be. I think this next week. I 436 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be the week. Man. It's the weather. 437 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: It's just long lining up perfectly. Um, we're kind of 438 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: unfeasibly warm for the most part. I feel like, uh, 439 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: you know, in Missouri and Colorado boath and so um. 440 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember a time when, um, in the recent future, 441 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: at least in the recent past, um, where where the 442 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: ruts and the November and these weather conissions are lined 443 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: up as they as they are this coming week. So 444 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: if you got vacation time, I would get out and 445 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: get in a stand. It's gonna be highs in the 446 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: forties here in Missouri and Colorado is gonna be even 447 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: colder than that in the evening. But it's gonna be awesome. 448 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: I love the optimism. My good luck with the rest 449 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: of your season. And thanks for joining me. Thanks funny, 450 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it alright and joining us on the line. Next 451 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: is Alex Comstock from Whitetail DNA in Minnesota. Now, Alex 452 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, what would you say the buck activity has 453 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, so 454 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: I'd say it's probably been about a tourist three. Things 455 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: have been very slow for me. I have not been 456 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: seen a sure Bucks at all. The only reason I 457 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: even give it a two or three is just from 458 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: reports from buddies at Hunt very close to me that 459 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: I've seen a little bit. But overall it's been really 460 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: slow from me so far. What would you attribute that 461 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: slow movement to right now in places that you're haunting 462 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: in Minnesota? I think I mainly attribute it to weather. Um, 463 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: it's been last year at this time, looking over you 464 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: know year to year weather information, we're blows and the 465 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: team ties in the upper twenties, low thirties, and this 466 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: year right now, we've had highs in the fifties and 467 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: sixties and lows in the forties and fifties. So the 468 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: weather it's just really not been ideal. So to encounter 469 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: some better movement, what do you think you need to 470 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: change about your strategy? Is to find a rutting buck 471 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: in the coming week. I'm hoping that this time of 472 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: year and weather it's going to help me with As 473 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: we move into the first week in November, temperature are 474 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: supposed to drop here, and based on what I'm seeing 475 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: out in the woods, you know, I've been not seeing 476 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: a ton of scraping activity compared to the years before. 477 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: And I just hope we're a week or so back, 478 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, and that things are really going to ramp 479 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: up here the next week. Where are you running your 480 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: trail camera as we get into early November, I've still 481 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: got pretty much all of my trail cameras on either 482 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: scrapes or mox scrapes. That seems to be the best 483 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: for me. Even though as we moved into early November 484 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: and bucks are chasing a little more, I find that 485 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: scrapes are gonna be the best spot for trail cameras. 486 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: And then, uh, if you don't have among scrapes and 487 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: now I've got them, and you know, some type funnels 488 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What food sources are relevant right 489 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: now to deer and deer hunters in Minnesota, you know, 490 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: if you've got you know, late acorns dropping. Otherwise where 491 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm at, um there are mountain ashberries and buck thorn 492 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: which they eat a lot. And that's you know, pretty 493 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: much the extent of it. Where where I'm at Historically 494 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: this time of year in Minnesota. Are you doing any 495 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: calling or decoying. I have started doing some calling. I've 496 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: had some pretty good success in the years past, especially 497 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: with rattling. Uh not anything, no success yet, but this 498 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: is right now at the time of year when I'm 499 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: starting to starting to do some calling, and and if 500 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: you've got a good setup for decoin. You don't have 501 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: a ton of good setups, but when you get those areas, 502 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: whether you're on a field edge or some type of 503 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: clearing or deer can see for a while, I think 504 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: this is probably the best time to be decoyed, when 505 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: you have a successful calling sequence in early November and 506 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: years past. What are some themes that are consistent among 507 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: those situations where you're able to call in a book, 508 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's either you know, sometimes will be blind rattling, 509 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: but typically it's if you if you've got a loan 510 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: buck that you're seeing off in the distance, Um, you know, 511 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: if I've you know, it's very common where you see 512 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: something through the through September, you catch a glance, I'm 513 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: not sure I feel what it was, smack dandlers together 514 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully you can get that deer to 515 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: come in and check you out and that way you 516 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: get at least a better look and know what exactly 517 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: what it is in your state. Do you have a 518 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: favorite day of the rut or favorite stretch of the rut? 519 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: My favorite stretches probably that November three to the seven, 520 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: So that's you know, we're coming up on that, and uh, 521 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: that's definitely where I've seen to have the best activity 522 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: in the best hunts, you know, year over year during 523 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: that stretch at November three November seven. What is an 524 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: ideal set up look like for you in Minnesota? My 525 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: favorite set ups for sure are some type of pinch 526 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: or funnel with in between dough bet in areas you 527 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: know those bucks are just starting, you know, whether some 528 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: does are coming into stress or not. You know, those 529 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: bucks are really starting to check. And if you can 530 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: get in between betting areas, I think that's kind of 531 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: mine go to set up. If you're doing some in 532 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Sason scouting this time of year, what are some things 533 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: that you're looking for. I'm just looking for concentrated buck signs, 534 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, and if I can find areas with a 535 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: ton of rubs, ton of scrapes, that helped me even 536 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: if that sign is made night or even it's been 537 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: made in late October bucks are in that area general speaking, 538 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: And then that's right, like the key in on going forward. 539 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Then in this next week or so, what do you 540 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a 541 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Minnesota? I would definitely 542 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: like to see it get up into that seven plus range, 543 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: just being how slow has been. You almost feel like 544 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: it's do that it's gonna just really pick up. And 545 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: I just hope things are going to break open here 546 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: pretty much any day. All right, Alex, I hope you're 547 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: wrong and you even get a ten out of ten, 548 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: But good luck with your haunts, and thanks for joining 549 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: all right, Thanks Spencer, all right and joining us online. 550 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Next is Clay Nucom, who you know from meat Eater 551 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: and Bear Grease and all sorts of other places in 552 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: the Mediator network. Who is in Arkansas? Now? Clay in Arkansas? 553 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: What would you say the bucket activity has been lately 554 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten. I from personal observation, 555 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: I would have expected it to be a little bit 556 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: hotter right now. So I'm gonna give it a six, Spencer, 557 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: because I have yet to see a mature buck really honest, 558 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, chasing those doing what you kind of expect 559 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: to see him do around here. Right now, this right 560 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: around Halloween is usually the best time for us. And uh, 561 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get real good. But I'm gonna 562 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: give it a six for right now. If you were 563 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: to put a name on this phase of the rod 564 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: in Arkansas, what would you say that it is? Right now? 565 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: Just the seeking phase. These bucks I'm starting to see 566 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: on trail camera mature dear on their feet in the daytime, 567 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: but not with a lot of times right now. I 568 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: mean I'm seeing mature bucks like Kendon does, but I 569 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: have not seen that this year. And I have seen 570 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: a couple of mature bucks on camera just kind of cruising, 571 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: and so I would call it. You know, they're they're 572 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: they're moving around looking for those first hot dose in 573 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: early November in Arkansas, where do you want to be 574 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: running your trail cameras? M m over a pile of 575 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: corn on private land, spencer, that's where you want to 576 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: put your true cameras. Um, that's not a joke. Really, 577 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: you can do it, and it's a great way to 578 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: get pictures of deer. Secondly, on scrapes the deer are 579 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: usually hitting scrapes really good. This year. I have not 580 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: got as many pictures of bucks over scrapes right now, 581 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: but that's where I want them, beds, piles of corn. 582 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: What other food sources are relevant for deer hunters right 583 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: now in Arkansas? Acorns big time. They're where there are acorns. 584 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: The deer hitting the acron's hard. There are large areas 585 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: that I found that don't have many acres, and so 586 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: the deer are, you know, they're they're hitting field edges 587 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: some more than I would usually expect them to this 588 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: time of year. And and we're not in an agricultural area. 589 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: We're we're just in kind of you know, we've got 590 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: a lot of cattle pastures and different things. But I 591 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: would imagine guys with food plots, which we don't have 592 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: really any improved land that we're hunting in terms of 593 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: deer improvement. Uh, food plots would be probably pretty hot 594 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: right now historically clay in Arkansas? What is your favorite 595 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: day or your favorite stretch of days of the white 596 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: tail rock? No? Remember fifth, six and seven, that that's 597 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: the time too in my opinion to kill one. I've 598 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: just I've killed deer on those the multiple deer on 599 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: those three days, just at different times, and the big 600 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: deer just seemed to be moving and they're typically with 601 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: a dough. They're they're with a dough during that time, 602 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: and that's that's when I like to hunt them. During 603 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: November five November seven, What is your ideal set up 604 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: look like in Arkansas? When you're in a tree sin, 605 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm hunting funnels during that time. I'm trying to 606 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: just find areas where I'm gonna see a lot of deer, 607 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: catch deer moving and the funnels for me on on 608 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: the private land that I hunt and I hunt national 609 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: forest some and in that it's totally different. But this 610 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: year I'm hunting mainly private up here, and that is 611 00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna mean little corridors between fields, the back corners of fields, 612 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the heads, the big hollows, and just neck down topographic 613 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: features that draw deer in. And that's where I'm gonna 614 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: be sitting is in these little little funnels. Famously, Clay, 615 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: you had a set over rattling antlers that Steve broke 616 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: off in Texas on Meat Eater Season ten that we 617 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: then auctioned off in the Meat Eater Auction House of 618 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: oddities which you can find in our meat eater store. Now, 619 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: I know you have rattling antlers like that, but do 620 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: you use them a lot in Arkansas this time of year? Well, 621 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: I still haven't forgiven Steve for breaking my rattling antlers. 622 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Number one. Yes, I do some rattling, but I won't 623 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: rattle much this week. I tell you the most success 624 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: I've had in Arkansas, which has been minimal. These there 625 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: just for whatever reason that I don't really understand. It 626 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: just they're not gonna respond like the deer in the 627 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Midwest can do at times to rattle lame. I have 628 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: rattled in dere usually. I remember rattling in a good 629 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: buck on November the tenth one time. Um. I do 630 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: carry a synthetic set of a rattling device, and I 631 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: will tickle it every now and then, but I can't 632 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: remember the last time it actually helped me kill it. 633 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: Dear this time of year going forward, then, in this 634 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that bucket 635 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 636 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: to ten in Arkansas. It's gonna be as good as 637 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: it it's gonna get. It's gonna be a ten because 638 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: we've finally got some cold weather. The weather has been 639 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: very warm in Arkansas, so we finally got this cold 640 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: weather coming in, which is great. Last year during this 641 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: time it is incredibly hot and there it was real 642 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: tough first week in November. This year, I expect it 643 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: to be as good as it gets, so I'm giving 644 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: it a ten man. Al Right, Clay, I'm gonna be 645 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: impatiently waiting for a big buck down text, so I 646 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: hope that happens this week. And good luck, good luck 647 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: to you, Spencer. Thanks man, I'll be looking for the 648 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: same from you. And that concludes this week's episode of 649 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt's Rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Josh, Mike, Alex, 650 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: and Clay for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 651 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: As always, you can find this week's reading materials in 652 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: the description of the episode, where you'll see articles like 653 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: three unconventional white tail rut hunting tactics, how to haunt 654 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: the white tail rut in the Big Woods, what is 655 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: the best day of the white tail rut? And the 656 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: rules of the white tail Rut. I hope your rutcation 657 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: has already started, and if not, it's only a few 658 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: days away. I will talk to you next week and 659 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: until then stay wired to hunt.