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Speaker 1: to remember all of our ways.
Speaker 2: Remember I used to be like, I don't remember none
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: But the fun thing about you tip is, you know
Speaker 3: you do it the one week and then the next
Speaker 3: week it's.
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna get I'm gonna be like.
Speaker 3: It's inconsistent. It is, but no, it's okay, you know.
Speaker 1: But remember too, we are not your financial advisor. We're
Speaker 1: not your doctor, ya lawyer. We're just two really cute
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Speaker 2: So that's it, Okay, get your salt, shake us out. Yes.
Speaker 3: So I and hey, y'all, I'm Mandy and I'm that
Speaker 3: mad Lee, And that means we're going to be digging
Speaker 3: into some career questions and we have some juicy ones today,
Speaker 3: some interesting ones. I might need to be a little mean,
Speaker 3: a little bit, I don't know. Radical candor, that's what
Speaker 3: we'll call it. That mean right radical because this is
Speaker 3: like Brene Brandt Brown quote. I don't know, someone made
Speaker 3: it up who was super smart. Radical candor is what
Speaker 3: we're going to go for today. Got a question from
Speaker 3: someone who is really feeling not very confident in their
Speaker 3: job anymore. And then we're going to follow that up
Speaker 3: with a woman who is wanting to launch her own
Speaker 3: business and take her online doulah business or her doula
Speaker 3: business into like an online space, which is really cool.
Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Number one over for okay, so
Speaker 3: they want to be called over forty level of confidence. Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: longtime listener, first time emailer. I have been working for
Speaker 3: an engineer company as an unlicensed engineer for the last
Speaker 3: year and a half. I've been in and out of
Speaker 3: the industry over the last fifteen years, each time starting
Speaker 3: at an entry level position. So I'm older and in
Speaker 3: an entry level position again. And a few months ago
Speaker 3: my supervisor went off on me and it really shook
Speaker 3: my confidence. I've gone to him and told him not
Speaker 3: to yell at me anymore or to perform on site
Speaker 3: on site visits. The incident occurred during my training. However,
Speaker 3: since that time, I'm not getting anything right. I'm making
Speaker 3: mistakes all over the place. I'm going along to get along,
Speaker 3: but it only makes me feel worse. What are some
Speaker 3: exercises I can do to build my confidence again? Well
Speaker 3: this makes me sad. Yeah, but you know my first
Speaker 3: reaction is like, I'm kind of happy that your boss
Speaker 3: is paying attention because engineering is all about accuracy, right,
Speaker 3: being really attention to detail. I don't know what kind
Speaker 3: of engineer you do, but like, if you're engineering an
Speaker 3: airplane that I'm going to get on, then I would
Speaker 3: like you to not make mistakes either. And it sounds
Speaker 3: like it's maybe not a realistic expectation for your boss
Speaker 3: to not do on site visits, especially if you're training
Speaker 3: like you're going to be getting that feedback. I think
Speaker 3: what's hard is that, as someone who's got fifteen years
Speaker 3: of experience, yes you say off and on, you're probably
Speaker 3: coming into it with like an attitude of I've been
Speaker 3: around the block, Like I do know some things. I'm
Speaker 3: more senior, I have more experience than these other juniors,
Speaker 3: So like, why are you picking on me? And I
Speaker 3: think you need to humble yourself if you're going to
Speaker 3: be in this position and recognize that you still may
Speaker 3: have things to learn from your supervisor in that space.
Speaker 3: And if it's shaken your confidence, I think the only
Speaker 3: exercise that will help you is to do your work well.
Speaker 3: And what do you need to do your work well?
Speaker 3: Is that feedback maybe your boss, Like maybe you've taken
Speaker 3: it so personally now like with a feedback from them,
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to shake your confidence. But I'm
Speaker 3: going to need you to like find a mentor find
Speaker 3: a colleague who's doing everything right and watch them like
Speaker 3: a hawk, even if they're twenty years younger than you,
Speaker 3: watch them like a hawk. Age is nothing when it
Speaker 3: comes to I feel like has nothing to do with
Speaker 3: whether you're capable of a job or not. But if
Speaker 3: they really understand what you guys are there to do,
Speaker 3: and they're doing things really well, then follow them and
Speaker 3: see what they're doing right and then try to emulate that.
Speaker 3: And I think it is just like eat a slice
Speaker 3: a humble pie and recognize, Okay, maybe I'm not in
Speaker 3: my area of strength here and I've got some learning
Speaker 3: to do. That's all I can think of. That was
Speaker 3: radical candor, and I hope that it didn't hurt your feelings.
Speaker 2: Got it's like, yeah, they're your right in that one.
Speaker 1: They should not be yelling at you, you know, because
Speaker 1: you know we're all adults here. But correction is critical,
Speaker 1: you know, because to Mandy's point, I mean in all things.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: You might be a mechanical engineer, maybe you're building bridges,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're you know, whatever it is. You know,
Speaker 1: you're wanting your job. Your job is going to require
Speaker 1: a certain level of excellence, and so one of the
Speaker 1: best things to do is to Mandy's point is that
Speaker 1: one of the ways I had asked doctor Green this
Speaker 1: once my therapist when I was feeling not as confident,
Speaker 1: and she was like, well, the best way to feel confident.
Speaker 2: Is to get good at us at the thing you know.
Speaker 1: That that yeah, Like like, so if you're there's something
Speaker 1: that you're working on. I know, my sister is a
Speaker 1: mechanical engineer, and she would like literally on the side
Speaker 1: kind of learn new programs or take different classes to
Speaker 1: learn something new. So she felt really good about here's
Speaker 1: my solid knowledge base. I can put it into practice,
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know if you're you know,
Speaker 1: are their classes are there? You know, are there programs
Speaker 1: that you can order that Like she literally useduld just
Speaker 1: like buy these kind of like programs on the side
Speaker 1: and just practice with them. I remember distinctly when she,
Speaker 1: like even my sister Tracy, when she was wanting to
Speaker 1: be a buyer, she like ordered kind of like these
Speaker 1: buying programs that she would just practice with. So that way,
Speaker 1: because she knew she was new to that industry, she
Speaker 1: had been in the financial industry up until then, you know,
Speaker 1: so that when she went to interviews, she can say, although,
Speaker 1: you know, I've had had this direct experience, I've got
Speaker 1: my master's in marketing, and these programs I've been doing them,
Speaker 1: you know for the last year or just on my own,
Speaker 1: And so are there ways you can lean in to
Speaker 1: skill sets that you're self developing so you feel good
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: You know, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: It is a tough space, but to me, delivering excellence
Speaker 1: breeds confidence, you know exactly.
Speaker 3: And it's like, but it's also when you say that
Speaker 3: you've been in this off and on for fifteen years,
Speaker 3: I'm almost wondering, are you dedicated to it enough to
Speaker 3: really invest that time, and what is it that's keeping
Speaker 3: you like going in and out? And I know your
Speaker 3: question is just about confidence, but like, if you're wanting
Speaker 3: a career, like a real career in this field to
Speaker 3: see some upward trajectory, I'm going to guess if you
Speaker 3: even you've been in and out of it, you're not
Speaker 3: gaining skills or gaining a master of your craft to
Speaker 3: the point where you're going to be moving up. And
Speaker 3: I think you just got to, like, you know, forget
Speaker 3: about your age for a second. I don't I find
Speaker 3: that your age being forty is irrelevant. Honestly, It's just
Speaker 3: really about do you want to be really good at
Speaker 3: this one job and bring value and be recognized and
Speaker 3: move up and get more opportunities. And the best way
Speaker 3: to do that is, like TIF saying, is to really
Speaker 3: invest in your skills and grow. And you know, and
Speaker 3: of course, like I would agree, yelling is not the
Speaker 3: best I know you say they went off on you.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means, but I'm going to
Speaker 3: assume they weren't thrilled and they let you know it
Speaker 3: in front of probably some other people. But like, what
Speaker 3: is the benefit of sitting in that and just like
Speaker 3: letting that continue to get you down, not very much
Speaker 3: like it's it's just better for you if you you know,
Speaker 3: I'll take it for what it's worth, take the criticism
Speaker 3: or the feedback, and then find ways to just prove
Speaker 3: them wrong, you know, and to bring that excellence. And
Speaker 3: if they look over your shoulder more often because you
Speaker 3: made some mistakes early on, then that's sort of the
Speaker 3: price to pay when you lose that trust. But you
Speaker 3: can rebuild it, you know, if you continue and you
Speaker 3: bring that excellence every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard, you know, like this part is
Speaker 1: gonna be hard, just because you're in this weird space.
Speaker 1: But if slowly but surely you're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to do this extra work at home. I'm
Speaker 1: going to figure this thing out. I'm going to ask
Speaker 1: questions to the people in my industry. I'm going to
Speaker 1: lean in and be like, hey, because I've certainly done
Speaker 1: that when I wasn't a great teacher, Like I'd be
Speaker 1: like asking my friends who really were great teachers, like,
Speaker 1: so how do you do that? Can you look at
Speaker 1: my lesson plan? Can you take you know, And so
Speaker 1: that way I can start to see what good looked like,
Speaker 1: so I can emulate that. So good luck to you
Speaker 1: over forty confidence.
Speaker 3: Good luck to you. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 3: break though, and come back with next question from a
Speaker 3: woman who was wanting to make her business more online,
Speaker 3: which is really exciting. Yes, right back, alba fan, we
Speaker 3: are back with another one of your ba qa's. This
Speaker 3: is from a listener who wants to be called just
Speaker 3: a just a brown girl trying to make it if
Speaker 3: you want to read this one.
Speaker 2: Girl, yes, hello.
Speaker 1: First of all, I would like to say thank you
Speaker 1: for being the aunties I always wanted.
Speaker 2: Let me stop you there, Sis. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Mandy is a whole thirty five, which to me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you slide with that if you were in
Speaker 1: your twenties. But if unless you are under the ages
Speaker 1: early twenties, twenty, unless you' under the age of twenty
Speaker 1: thirty five is not your auntie you got to be.
Speaker 1: You have to have a teen in your number to
Speaker 1: maybe call Mandy auntie. Yeah, right, Like I could see
Speaker 1: a eighteen year old be like, oh that's my aunt Mandy. Okay,
Speaker 1: we canna let that slide because you got tea oka
Speaker 1: but not no, but because I remember I had this
Speaker 1: woman that you just called me auntie, and I'm like, says,
Speaker 1: I'm five years older.
Speaker 2: You don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't have a three in front of your number
Speaker 1: and I got a four in front of mine and
Speaker 1: I'm your auntie.
Speaker 2: No, don't do that. We are peers at this at
Speaker 2: this moment.
Speaker 3: T It's not a sign of respect.
Speaker 2: So we're just we're teasing. Back to the letter. You
Speaker 2: guys are amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm righting today because I have a business that has
Speaker 1: done pretty well. However, I'd like to grow my business
Speaker 1: by having a constant income.
Speaker 2: Okay, I am.
Speaker 1: A birth worker slash doula in Houston, Texas. I offer
Speaker 1: childbirth and lactation education, birth support, and postpartum support.
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 1: The bulk of my income comes from labor support. However,
Speaker 1: I want to grow my business where I don't have
Speaker 1: to rely on just having labor clients. I want to
Speaker 1: be able to offer webinars online and not just in person.
Speaker 1: Really smart, I'm not sure how to go about that.
Speaker 1: I also hear you talk about CRMs, which are what
Speaker 1: I seem stand for.
Speaker 2: Mandy as me that we're go ahead to of.
Speaker 3: Google we'll go customer retention marketing.
Speaker 2: Yes. Basically, oh my god god, the email system.
Speaker 3: I won an award for remembering.
Speaker 1: That whoa wait, sister, you like mad me me? Or
Speaker 1: that's another popular one that the girls like, constant contact.
Speaker 2: That's a CRM. For those who are like, what's that?
Speaker 1: I also hear you talk about CRMs. Can someone like
Speaker 1: me even use a CRM? I'm not even sure what
Speaker 1: I could launch. I definitely want to move forward and
Speaker 1: allow my business to make abundance of money for me
Speaker 1: so I can live all girl, so I can live
Speaker 1: my rich auntie's life.
Speaker 2: I was like, all, be careful there, just like us.
Speaker 1: Should I hire a business coach? Who should I lead
Speaker 1: into to help me take my business to the next level?
Speaker 1: Because I know I need help and has grown out
Speaker 1: of my comfort of knowing what to do next. Sincerely,
Speaker 1: just a brown girl trying to make it. Hey, Me's no,
Speaker 1: I'm just seizing. No, you're a budding business. I love
Speaker 1: this question because I feel like there's so much potential
Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, huge potential. Well for inst let me
Speaker 1: just welcome you on into y'all know I'll be coaching
Speaker 1: young young brown girls in business at over at my
Speaker 1: mentor Tiffany dot com coming over, because this is the
Speaker 1: type of thing that we would like, you know, not
Speaker 1: that we talk on one on one, but you know
Speaker 1: that I would either do a lesson on which I
Speaker 1: definitely have about how to grow and and scale, or
Speaker 1: you know, we sometimes I do a Q and A.
Speaker 1: I do a live once a month where you get
Speaker 1: to like kind of lean and learn a lesson, ask questions.
Speaker 1: I bring experts in, Like tonight, I mean, y'all are
Speaker 1: you know you will listen to too late, But tonight
Speaker 1: I'm having the assistant superintendent of the largest school district
Speaker 1: in Newark come to talk about how to build a
Speaker 1: curriculum that sells. So I'm excited about that. But I
Speaker 1: say all that to the same that this is great.
Speaker 1: You are in a position that so many budding or
Speaker 1: new entrepreneurs find themselves in, and that is like pre scale.
Speaker 2: So in the beginning, it's like me myself.
Speaker 1: And now that's what I got to the end, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's me Tiffany I show up in
Speaker 1: a classroom, it's me Tiffany I. So you're asking to
Speaker 1: scale is to duplicate yourself or the process. And so
Speaker 1: that's where you are right now, which is really exciting
Speaker 1: to Mandy's point, and I love that you're already starting
Speaker 1: to realize. Okay, I have options when it comes to scaling,
Speaker 1: and certainly one of them is online education. You could
Speaker 1: also do group coaching. Maybe you could do in person
Speaker 1: group coaching. So when I scaled, I went from one
Speaker 1: on one, then I went from in person still but group,
Speaker 1: and then I went from two larger audience. So for you,
Speaker 1: you know, you might consider how m because I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Online courses are getting people are getting a
Speaker 1: little exhausted by traditional online courses. That's what that's what
Speaker 1: the word is. And we've seen it too. We've seen
Speaker 1: a little slow down to business. I've also seen it
Speaker 1: with my friends who have online courses, and so I
Speaker 1: don't know I would. I don't want you to, like
Speaker 1: maybe take the full leap uti courses, consider kind of
Speaker 1: maybe doing someone off. That's what I would see, just
Speaker 1: to test the market to see if there's interest there
Speaker 1: of like teaching, like hey, I'm going to teach this
Speaker 1: class you. If it was me, i'd want to align
Speaker 1: myself with like mommy groups like you know, pre mommy
Speaker 1: book groups, like especially first time moms who are like,
Speaker 1: what am I.
Speaker 2: What you know? What can I expect?
Speaker 1: Like? Are there groups in Houston, Texas that you can
Speaker 1: go and visit? Maybe they can hire you to come speak,
Speaker 1: or maybe you speak for free, and then from there
Speaker 1: you let them know I do this coaching on the side.
Speaker 1: So that's probably would be my next before I jumped
Speaker 1: into building out a whole course at webinar or whatever,
Speaker 1: I would test my theory that there is an appetite
Speaker 1: for this by looking to maybe do some group things.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming the labor stuff that you do, it's
Speaker 1: like you with one single mother, you know, with one
Speaker 1: not single mother, but one individual woman, you know. So
Speaker 1: that's what I would ask myself, is this possible for
Speaker 1: me to do this with a group?
Speaker 2: What does that look like?
Speaker 1: And so I would explore that before jumping out the
Speaker 1: window to create like a course or webinar or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I personally love slow and steady. When's
Speaker 1: the race type of growth? I know some people like
Speaker 1: to have explosive growth, which can be fun but can
Speaker 1: also be overwhelming, and it's not always telling about whether
Speaker 1: or not that's something that can be sustained, and so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be looking for what is the next step
Speaker 1: versus the next leap, you know, And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in person group coaching might be a
Speaker 1: nice step and see if those people will be interested
Speaker 1: in something online with you and then moving from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that when you say you are a
Speaker 3: birth birthing coach slash doulah and you also do lactation support,
Speaker 3: I feel like there is such a I mean, your
Speaker 3: audience is birthing humans, people who are giving birth, so
Speaker 3: you have such a wide audience. I mean, my feeling
Speaker 3: about online courses is and I hear to what you're
Speaker 3: saying about the you know, like the waning interest in it,
Speaker 3: and I do feel like, I mean, I think that
Speaker 3: you could say about anything right now, in the economy
Speaker 3: that we're in, people are just more tight with their
Speaker 3: dollars and they want want to be sure that they're
Speaker 3: spending money on so then that is absolutely for them
Speaker 3: and your key, you know, the key hurdle you have
Speaker 3: to overcome when you are trying to pivot something online
Speaker 3: or even just any business is figuring out who's your
Speaker 3: core market, who's your audience and creating an offer that
Speaker 3: they it's it's completely apparent to them that this is
Speaker 3: exactly for me. And that was an exercise that I
Speaker 3: went through with my business is making sure that I
Speaker 3: am speaking to her. I am speaking to the woman
Speaker 3: who goes on LinkedIn and you know doesn't even want
Speaker 3: to look at her feed because she's sick of seeing
Speaker 3: everyone else post about new jobs or they just got
Speaker 3: a promotion. You know, the person who's got twelve different
Speaker 3: versions of their resume and still can't land a job.
Speaker 3: Like I've thought deep and hard about the specific person
Speaker 3: that I'm speaking to and for you that you know,
Speaker 3: maybe you already know because you've been in business for
Speaker 3: a while, but tips right, like you want to get
Speaker 3: that like focus group, you want to talk to women,
Speaker 3: talk to sorry, people who give birth. What are they need?
Speaker 3: What are they wanting? You know, there's a whole market,
Speaker 3: I feel like for support after the birth, you know,
Speaker 3: like postpartum support, which you say that you offer. And
Speaker 3: I mean I was talking to a mom at my
Speaker 3: son's daycare and she just bought a course on how
Speaker 3: to get her son to sleep through the night, and
Speaker 3: there's and I was like, oh, did you do this? One,
Speaker 3: and she's like, no, I did that one. There's a
Speaker 3: bunch of them out there, you know, So there is
Speaker 3: there is definitely a market for definitely an appetite, and
Speaker 3: I don't want you to get stuck on like I
Speaker 3: think I had this idea, how could I get there?
Speaker 3: So that's where I'm like, you know, yes, I agree,
Speaker 3: you know, some in person coaching might be helpful, but
Speaker 3: I also feel like finding people who are competitors potential
Speaker 3: competitors in your space, but like let them show you
Speaker 3: that it's possible if you find other people who are
Speaker 3: you know, they have lactation consultant consultancies, and they have
Speaker 3: an online you know, component of what they teach, Like
Speaker 3: find other examples of people out there doing the thing
Speaker 3: that you want to do, not to make yourself feel
Speaker 3: like there's no space for you, but to make you
Speaker 3: feel like it's possible, and you can like connect with
Speaker 3: them and learn from them and start you know, being
Speaker 3: in and start growing your community of like minded entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3: As well as far as like the marketing side, I
Speaker 3: would say, if you don't already have a way to
Speaker 3: capture emails from your clients, like you have to get something,
Speaker 3: get some sort of very basic I think in the
Speaker 3: when we say CRM, we're probably talking about just like
Speaker 3: an email, an email platform, you know, like I use
Speaker 3: flow desk, you use the big one once it called
Speaker 3: it KEEP.
Speaker 2: But also to active campaigns is a good one.
Speaker 3: I'll thought you, Okay, yeah, there's a bunch out there,
Speaker 3: but I like what used to be called KEEP.
Speaker 1: That was that's like the gold star like but it's expensive,
Speaker 1: So I tell people that's what you level.
Speaker 3: Up too later, you really, I mean it's like you
Speaker 3: can do a sign up sheet, you know, at your events,
Speaker 3: like just get their emails, write them down, or you
Speaker 3: can there's a bunch of ways to capture email, but
Speaker 3: you want to you want to find a way to
Speaker 3: speak to the people who were interested in working with you,
Speaker 3: because as you're going to build this business, you're going
Speaker 3: to want to be able to reach back out to them,
Speaker 3: you know, when it's six months from now and you've
Speaker 3: got something that you're launching. So a lead magnet could
Speaker 3: be something small for you to start with, Like can
Speaker 3: you create the ten lactation tips to save you from
Speaker 3: cracked nipples? You know, because ouch, right, no one wants
Speaker 3: a cracked nipple. It's as bad as it. Okay. So
Speaker 3: if you have something that you can like package together
Speaker 3: and just like and it's your area of expertise, so
Speaker 3: it shouldn't take you that long to create it, you know.
Speaker 3: Like for me, it's my four free scripts to ask
Speaker 3: for a raise, you know, I put that together and
Speaker 3: people download it for free and they give their email
Speaker 3: and that's how we can stay in touch with them.
Speaker 3: But you can find some free like email software, flow
Speaker 3: desk is free. It's a you know, I don't like,
Speaker 3: I'm not affiliated with them in any other way than
Speaker 3: I use their product, but there are some you know,
Speaker 3: just like just do just get the basic version of
Speaker 3: whatever you think you need to email these people and
Speaker 3: you can always like grow with your tech, like you
Speaker 3: can always get tech art of technology. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: always like level up, but find something to start And
Speaker 3: should you hire a business coach?
Speaker 2: Sorry, oh that's right now, ra I forget about that part.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, that there are I remember
Speaker 1: there's this woman who I met, this black woman who
Speaker 1: had like this lactation snack business that's in target where women,
Speaker 1: you know, it would help with their lactation. I thought
Speaker 1: that was great, but imagine partnering with organizations like you know,
Speaker 1: things like that that they don't do what you do,
Speaker 1: but the benefit is that, like you can share their
Speaker 1: product and so maybe you do some lives with them
Speaker 1: where it's like educational lives. And so one of the
Speaker 1: best ways to get people to see you as like
Speaker 1: the go to is for them to see you as
Speaker 1: an expert because of what you teach and how you teach,
Speaker 1: you know, So just consider like that too, that you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to do out here alone, Like you know,
Speaker 1: partnership is critical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and where are you showing up and showing your
Speaker 3: excellence right now? And can't people find you? So like it?
Speaker 3: You know, where are people discovering you? You have to
Speaker 3: be discovered outside of just your client base. So is
Speaker 3: that going to be social media? Is it going to
Speaker 3: be like Tiff said, you can partner with like I
Speaker 3: found electation consultant through my hospital. I found one through
Speaker 3: my prenatal yoga studio that I went to. You could
Speaker 3: do zooms where because I used I remember when I
Speaker 3: had my first son, I was stressed about breastfeeding, as
Speaker 3: most first time moms are. Am I doing it right?
Speaker 3: Is he getting enough? You can't tell. And they had
Speaker 3: like this little group at my hospital and I had
Speaker 3: to go in person, but you would sit in a
Speaker 3: room and just breastfeed together, and they'd like, but you
Speaker 3: could do that a virtual version of that, you know,
Speaker 3: just to like get moms together, look at their latch
Speaker 3: and make sure it's right, get them, you know. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to quickly say though, and we're we could
Speaker 3: do a whole series on this whole question. But about
Speaker 3: the business coach thing. When I had gotten my proof
Speaker 3: of concept with Mandy money Makers, when I had I
Speaker 3: did it, you know quick. I did it like not dirty,
Speaker 3: but I didn't wait for it to be perfect. But
Speaker 3: like I did my focus grouping by doing the free
Speaker 3: career coaching, and then I launched what I thought was
Speaker 3: a good webinar to then launch my online course and
Speaker 3: my community, Mandy money Makers, and I did like three
Speaker 3: versions of that, and then I enrolled in a business
Speaker 3: coaching like a program, and it was like a group
Speaker 3: coaching program, so it wasn't like I had a dedicated
Speaker 3: business coach. I did get a couple of one on ones,
Speaker 3: but it was me taking their course on how to
Speaker 3: sort of do what you're talking about which is you know,
Speaker 3: really just like make your business, you know, bring in
Speaker 3: these different income streams online with your business. That's at
Speaker 3: that point I was when I hired the business coach
Speaker 3: and did their program, and I think that that worked
Speaker 3: for me because you will get stuck in the beginning
Speaker 3: of any good program doing that work anyway of like
Speaker 3: finding your perfect customer, working on your you know, your
Speaker 3: marketing and your message. And I had kind of done
Speaker 3: a lot of that work in advance, and I felt
Speaker 3: really ready to just like enroll in this and get
Speaker 3: the template and like the curriculum or the blueprint that
Speaker 3: I needed to you know, create like a smooth running
Speaker 3: online business in that way. So and the woman that
Speaker 3: I worked with and I do not get any affiliate
Speaker 3: from her anything like that, but that was we had
Speaker 3: her as a guest on the show. Natalia Copeland is
Speaker 3: as the coach that I worked with in Talia Copeland,
Speaker 3: and her her program is called the Fast Academy Fast.
Speaker 2: So check her out, but also check out my mentor
Speaker 2: tifany that cop.
Speaker 3: Yes, not too much more affordable ten bucks a month now,
Speaker 3: which is still super affordable, but yeah, oh okay, it's
Speaker 3: a good.
Speaker 1: Place to like baby, tip your your toe in. It's
Speaker 1: like I call it like mentorship, but there's also a
Speaker 1: lot of peer to peer, which is really critical. I
Speaker 1: always say she have mentors and sponsors. You have a
Speaker 1: handful of those, way more peace people who are in
Speaker 1: a similar spot that you can like bounce things off of,
Speaker 1: learn things from, and then mentees of your own because
Speaker 1: it keeps your skills sharp helping other people. So mentors, peers, mentees.
Speaker 1: It's just like that's kind of like the the grouping
Speaker 1: that I like to have that I've seen create success
Speaker 1: for myself and others.
Speaker 2: So we wish you luck.
Speaker 3: Girl, you know, cousin, don't give up. I feel like
Speaker 3: this is I'm excited for You'll want updates, Yes, updates,
Speaker 3: all right, just a brown girl trying to make it.
Speaker 3: We forgive you for calling us aunties and it's all good.
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