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Speaker 1: First of all, I would like to say thank you

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Speaker 3: and that's how we can stay in touch with them.

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Speaker 3: But you can find some free like email software, flow

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Speaker 3: desk is free. It's a you know, I don't like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not affiliated with them in any other way than

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Speaker 3: I use their product, but there are some you know,

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Speaker 3: just like just do just get the basic version of

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Speaker 3: whatever you think you need to email these people and

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Speaker 3: you can always like grow with your tech, like you

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Speaker 3: can always get tech art of technology. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 3: always like level up, but find something to start And

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Speaker 3: should you hire a business coach?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, oh that's right now, ra I forget about that part.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, that there are I remember

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Speaker 1: there's this woman who I met, this black woman who

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Speaker 1: had like this lactation snack business that's in target where women,

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Speaker 1: you know, it would help with their lactation. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was great, but imagine partnering with organizations like you know,

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Speaker 1: things like that that they don't do what you do,

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Speaker 1: but the benefit is that, like you can share their

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Speaker 1: product and so maybe you do some lives with them

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Speaker 1: where it's like educational lives. And so one of the

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Speaker 1: best ways to get people to see you as like

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Speaker 1: the go to is for them to see you as

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Speaker 1: an expert because of what you teach and how you teach,

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Speaker 1: you know, So just consider like that too, that you're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to do out here alone, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: partnership is critical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and where are you showing up and showing your

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Speaker 3: excellence right now? And can't people find you? So like it?

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Speaker 3: You know, where are people discovering you? You have to

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Speaker 3: be discovered outside of just your client base. So is

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Speaker 3: that going to be social media? Is it going to

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Speaker 3: be like Tiff said, you can partner with like I

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Speaker 3: found electation consultant through my hospital. I found one through

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Speaker 3: my prenatal yoga studio that I went to. You could

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Speaker 3: do zooms where because I used I remember when I

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Speaker 3: had my first son, I was stressed about breastfeeding, as

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Speaker 3: most first time moms are. Am I doing it right?

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Speaker 3: Is he getting enough? You can't tell. And they had

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Speaker 3: like this little group at my hospital and I had

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Speaker 3: to go in person, but you would sit in a

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Speaker 3: room and just breastfeed together, and they'd like, but you

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Speaker 3: could do that a virtual version of that, you know,

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Speaker 3: just to like get moms together, look at their latch

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Speaker 3: and make sure it's right, get them, you know. I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to quickly say though, and we're we could

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Speaker 3: do a whole series on this whole question. But about

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Speaker 3: the business coach thing. When I had gotten my proof

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Speaker 3: of concept with Mandy money Makers, when I had I

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Speaker 3: did it, you know quick. I did it like not dirty,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't wait for it to be perfect. But

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Speaker 3: like I did my focus grouping by doing the free

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Speaker 3: career coaching, and then I launched what I thought was

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Speaker 3: a good webinar to then launch my online course and

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Speaker 3: my community, Mandy money Makers, and I did like three

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Speaker 3: versions of that, and then I enrolled in a business

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Speaker 3: coaching like a program, and it was like a group

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Speaker 3: coaching program, so it wasn't like I had a dedicated

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Speaker 3: business coach. I did get a couple of one on ones,

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Speaker 3: but it was me taking their course on how to

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Speaker 3: sort of do what you're talking about which is you know,

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Speaker 3: really just like make your business, you know, bring in

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Speaker 3: these different income streams online with your business. That's at

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Speaker 3: that point I was when I hired the business coach

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Speaker 3: and did their program, and I think that that worked

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Speaker 3: for me because you will get stuck in the beginning

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Speaker 3: of any good program doing that work anyway of like

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Speaker 3: finding your perfect customer, working on your you know, your

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Speaker 3: marketing and your message. And I had kind of done

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Speaker 3: a lot of that work in advance, and I felt

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Speaker 3: really ready to just like enroll in this and get

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Speaker 3: the template and like the curriculum or the blueprint that

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Speaker 3: I needed to you know, create like a smooth running

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Speaker 3: online business in that way. So and the woman that

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Speaker 3: I worked with and I do not get any affiliate

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Speaker 3: from her anything like that, but that was we had

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Speaker 3: her as a guest on the show. Natalia Copeland is

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Speaker 3: as the coach that I worked with in Talia Copeland,

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Speaker 3: and her her program is called the Fast Academy Fast.

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Speaker 2: So check her out, but also check out my mentor

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Speaker 2: tifany that cop.

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Speaker 3: Yes, not too much more affordable ten bucks a month now,

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Speaker 3: which is still super affordable, but yeah, oh okay, it's

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Speaker 3: a good.

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Speaker 1: Place to like baby, tip your your toe in. It's

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Speaker 1: like I call it like mentorship, but there's also a

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Speaker 1: lot of peer to peer, which is really critical. I

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Speaker 1: always say she have mentors and sponsors. You have a

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Speaker 1: handful of those, way more peace people who are in

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Speaker 1: a similar spot that you can like bounce things off of,

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Speaker 1: learn things from, and then mentees of your own because

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Speaker 1: it keeps your skills sharp helping other people. So mentors, peers, mentees.

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Speaker 1: It's just like that's kind of like the the grouping

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Speaker 1: that I like to have that I've seen create success

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Speaker 1: for myself and others.

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Speaker 2: So we wish you luck.

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Speaker 3: Girl, you know, cousin, don't give up. I feel like

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Speaker 3: this is I'm excited for You'll want updates, Yes, updates,

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Speaker 3: all right, just a brown girl trying to make it.

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Speaker 3: We forgive you for calling us aunties and it's all good.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's it for b a QA. If

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Speaker 3: y'all want to send us your questions again, you can

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Speaker 3: hit us up on IG We're at brand Ambission Podcast

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Speaker 3: or go to our website brandnambission podcast dot com and

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Speaker 3: ask us anything.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bye bye, You'll until next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye, heyba fam, We could not do this show

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Speaker 3: without your support or the support of our team behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes. The Brown Ambition Podcast is produced by Imani

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Speaker 3: Crosby and Dennis and Plinsky is our house tech guru.

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Speaker 3: I am your co host Mandy Woodrif Santos, and we

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Speaker 3: will see y'all next week. Ba FAM