WEBVTT - Confronting Both Sides of The Gun

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<v Speaker 1>What's up. Family, it's your girl to meeke A D.

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory and it's your and we're your hosts of street

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<v Speaker 1>politicians the place. And we've got our good old orange

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<v Speaker 1>T shirts on today which represent Gun Violence Awareness Month.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first week of g v a M,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a time in New York City where anti

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<v Speaker 1>violence organizations, advocates, partners, families, people who have been impacted

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<v Speaker 1>on either side of a gun, the shooter and or

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<v Speaker 1>the victim all come together to focus on, UH, the

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<v Speaker 1>anti violence movement, to bring attention, awareness, UM and support

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<v Speaker 1>to the movement. UH and really to uh just to

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<v Speaker 1>put some some attention and on the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>are models that work. UH. And in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a model which we've you know, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking much more about, called the crisis Management system. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know that over many years, the number of violent

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<v Speaker 1>crimes and violent incidents have been reduced by the work

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<v Speaker 1>of so many folks. UM. You all will see and

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<v Speaker 1>hear the footage of the press conference that happened today

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<v Speaker 1>where hundreds of anti violence activists, experts, organizers. UH. We're

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<v Speaker 1>at City Hall with UM, the city officials, City Council

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<v Speaker 1>members and other government officials, and of course UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of New York City, UM, and you know, standing

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<v Speaker 1>there announcing some important things that we'll talk about later

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. We have been doing this for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and history is going to show that the

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<v Speaker 1>first crisis management funding came from an idea I had

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<v Speaker 1>in the State Senate called snug gun spelled backwards first,

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<v Speaker 1>allocation of money first, and it has moved into the

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<v Speaker 1>movement you see behind us. And so when people believe

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<v Speaker 1>that folks of color want to normalize gun violence in

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<v Speaker 1>their community, they are wrong. They are wrong. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a real issue that we want to attack head on.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we don't want to do is minimize the

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<v Speaker 1>complete picture that must be addressed. By the time a

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<v Speaker 1>person picks up a gun, we've already failed, We've already

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<v Speaker 1>felt Now. I said this over and over again. There

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<v Speaker 1>many rivers that feed the seed of violence, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>time the damn every river, not just one with law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Damning every river is what we're going to do. The

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<v Speaker 1>epidemic of gun violence is not a New York problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a Democrat Republican problem. Tulsa is a red state.

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<v Speaker 1>The shooting that took place, there was a rest state.

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<v Speaker 1>Just an announcement came over just a few minutes ago

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<v Speaker 1>of a sixteen year old attempting to recruit others in

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<v Speaker 1>Berkeley to go in and shoot up a school. Every

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<v Speaker 1>day we're hearing about this. It's breaking our hearts, breaking

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<v Speaker 1>our bodies, and breaking our communities. When a bullet hits

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<v Speaker 1>the target, the physical bullet stops, but the emotional trauma

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<v Speaker 1>rips a path apart the anatomy of our entire community.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been more mass shootings, think about the

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment, More mass shooters in America than days

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<v Speaker 1>of the years. Unbelievable. And we've normalized it. We say

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, and I think we often dismiss it because

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<v Speaker 1>the victim of handguns violence for the most part of

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown and in the inner cities all across America.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've normalized it and stated that that is just

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<v Speaker 1>the way it has to be. And we're saying today,

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<v Speaker 1>your damn right is not going to be that way.

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<v Speaker 1>We could turn it around and make it happen. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of g U and S, let me get you

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<v Speaker 1>another four letters, how about J. O. B. S. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get our children jobs. Let's put them on a pathway

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<v Speaker 1>of employment. That's why we have a hundred thousand summer

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<v Speaker 1>youth jobs, first time in the city history. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Jermanni Williams for pushing this for years. That's why we're

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the tell corporate America we want to one paid

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<v Speaker 1>internship program throughout the school year leading into our force

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<v Speaker 1>to care children, to give them the support they need

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<v Speaker 1>so they don't age out at one, give them mentors

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<v Speaker 1>and to the All of these things are gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>us deal with this issue in a real way. Time

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<v Speaker 1>to take our city upstream and build real partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>people who are tired, as I am, of pulling people

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<v Speaker 1>out of the river downstream. This is our moment. You

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<v Speaker 1>do not elect me to do what everyone has done

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. You wanted a different outcomes and you

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<v Speaker 1>picked a different mayor. And trust me, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of noise out there. Everybody's gonna critique us. Everybody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start telling why don't you pick this one, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you pick that? Because I'm the mayor and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make the decisions now to save our children. With the

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<v Speaker 1>level of urgency that we deserve today. What you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>behind us, it's not just the government made it happen,

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<v Speaker 1>because to be clean there, we were told no every

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<v Speaker 1>time that we asked for resources. When we first started,

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<v Speaker 1>we met with the mayor at the time and he

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<v Speaker 1>looked Erica Ford and not dead in the face and said,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no proof that what you're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>will work. But we proved it. They sent us back.

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<v Speaker 1>They told us to get data. And all that Erica

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<v Speaker 1>has mentioned in terms of how many days, weeks, years,

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<v Speaker 1>months went by without shootings in this city, we did

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<v Speaker 1>that together. Now, once the pandemic came, it changed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for everybody. So stop trying to act like in

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<v Speaker 1>media who you are here, if you have any moral conscious,

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<v Speaker 1>tell the true story. Violence is up everywhere. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty three, Malcolm X got in big trouble

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<v Speaker 1>for saying something that we see today much is that

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<v Speaker 1>the chickens are coming home to rules. As we see

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<v Speaker 1>shootings happening across this nation, shootings of all types, mass shootings,

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<v Speaker 1>violence everywhere. Remember that this group we told you, we

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<v Speaker 1>told you what would happen. We gave you the forecast

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<v Speaker 1>of what would happen to this nation if we did

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<v Speaker 1>not deal with mental health, if we did not deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the lack of jobs and resources, if we did

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<v Speaker 1>not address food, deserts and other concerning issues in our community.

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<v Speaker 1>We already told you that today would come, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if we are to go forward and this nation is

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<v Speaker 1>to be better, this group is an example of what

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<v Speaker 1>must come together in order to address those concerns. The

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<v Speaker 1>police force cannot do it alone. If they could have,

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<v Speaker 1>c mess would have never been needed. The government cannot

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<v Speaker 1>do it alone. Half the time, they can't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>from one side to the other what to do. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes all of us. But the main thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>the people must be centered. I'm I'm a part of

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<v Speaker 1>a very robust route of advocates that I'm very proud

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<v Speaker 1>to be a member of and a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>know each other respectfully. But thank you the man Adams

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<v Speaker 1>for naming me to be the Gun Violence Preventions are

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. There's a new title. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>first ever, and it should be. As he mentioned, we

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<v Speaker 1>should want some things that are different. We've been dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with this issue for far too long, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>using the same tactics over and over again, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>been getting the same results. So so so no one

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<v Speaker 1>should have a problem with us trying something different. Give

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<v Speaker 1>us a chance to prove our self work. We are

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are closest to the problem, so quite

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<v Speaker 1>naturally we have the answers to those problems. There's nobody

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<v Speaker 1>that wants gonna balanced in more than the young people

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<v Speaker 1>that come from the neighborhoods and the people who live

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<v Speaker 1>in this community every single day. And so this is

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<v Speaker 1>a community driven approach. When you hear about the state

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<v Speaker 1>or the FEDS and now the city, now include the community.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the fourth flag of the chair that you're sitting on, Marsha.

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<v Speaker 1>The community that we represent can create, as you heard

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned at this podium, solutions for themselves. And we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to work hand in sync with that community to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we deliver the things that they say that

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<v Speaker 1>they need, the things that they said that they want,

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<v Speaker 1>and these men and women behind me are trained to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver those resources into those neighborhoods where other people cannot go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm I'm proud because I was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first, very very few. There was three of us

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<v Speaker 1>who were the main leaders and no more than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>six or seven in the room at any given time

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<v Speaker 1>who put the crisis management system together. Architects. We were

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<v Speaker 1>the architects of this movement. Erica Ford was really the brainchild.

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<v Speaker 1>She threw all of her thoughts on the board. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And Richard gupp Glover, who at the time I think

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<v Speaker 1>was at Columbia I think he was at Columbia UM.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a professor. He worked to help organize her thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>We did the advocacy work. Our brother A. T. Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>and myself we worked together with Erica pulling it and

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<v Speaker 1>putting it and focusing and molding it to make the

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<v Speaker 1>crisis management system a real thing. And here we are

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<v Speaker 1>over a decade later. Um. You know, and the christ

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<v Speaker 1>and the Gun Violence Awareness Month came along later where

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<v Speaker 1>we decided that we had to have a month that

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<v Speaker 1>really every single day there'll be educational opportunities and other

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<v Speaker 1>moments for people to get together. So I was happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the hot sun today with all our

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<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters. Yeah, I was definitely happy to be there. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Our brother A. T. As you mentioned he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was announced to be the Tzar of Gun Violence and

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<v Speaker 1>Prevention of New York. So that was a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just he's somebody that a t I think

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<v Speaker 1>his mannerisms, the way they carried itself, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just somebody that I look up to a call

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<v Speaker 1>for advice a lot, and he's been a mentor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing this work long way longer than I have.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's um and he also respects my leadership at

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, and we just have a beautiful relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So seeing him, you know, appointing to this position, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that it's in the right hands. He's somebody who definitely

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<v Speaker 1>takes this work serious, sleep and wakes up with this work,

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<v Speaker 1>who calls me, you know, and whenever something that's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, what are we gonna do? Like that's this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we need to do. He comes up with strategy. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was happy to see that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there was so plethora of other individuals that I've known

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the years through different channels, some just being in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, some from hip hop, some from just different channels,

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<v Speaker 1>and just seeing that they've invested their lives in this work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've seen them really transitioned with something good to

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<v Speaker 1>see and and just our family, you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this work for so long. All of our friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family was out there in the sweltering heat, you

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<v Speaker 1>know so much all the way across the bridge. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it to the full bridge march. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also see the young kids that I worked with at

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<v Speaker 1>Van Sickly Middle School. Um, they were there at the

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<v Speaker 1>march we put together. They actually put together this dope

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<v Speaker 1>um anti gun violence song that they allowed me to

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<v Speaker 1>feature on that were actually gonna be shooting the video

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<v Speaker 1>for in the next couple of days. So that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, it was happy to see. And the principal,

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<v Speaker 1>principal camp was there. You know. They have a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>program and which Wednesdays is like career day everywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>able to every Wednesday for the first two hours, the

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<v Speaker 1>first two periods you go to either music program, uh

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<v Speaker 1>video program, any kind of program that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do and you want to invest your time. And they

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<v Speaker 1>take the first two periods of every Wednesday and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's after school component until when you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>after school. But these people have the state of the

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<v Speaker 1>art studio. When I tell you, their studio is better

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<v Speaker 1>than the studio that I work like. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>full kids got a great studient day's studio in that school.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just amazing. I never I'd be like, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen different music rooms and they have a little mic

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<v Speaker 1>here and there set up, but this is a full

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<v Speaker 1>fledged studio. So shout out to in Sectra Middle School

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<v Speaker 1>in Principal Kemp, who who really invests in those children,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can see and you can see the investment

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<v Speaker 1>playing off because they're happy to be there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're happy to come. They really are enthusiday doing something

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<v Speaker 1>they like. They're not just learning in this mundane setting

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<v Speaker 1>you know too where it's born. They're looking at the chalkboard.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing something that they like to do. So shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to them. Yeah, that's great. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the evolution, if you will, of different entities within education

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<v Speaker 1>and community and government in and what have you beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to know that there has to be a different way

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<v Speaker 1>to educate our children, a different way to bring our

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<v Speaker 1>young people along and help them be successful. That's that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's low, it's a slug rid, but happening, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, a career day every single week. That's very

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<v Speaker 1>different because in the past it's just once a year

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<v Speaker 1>I put in your career day is not just them

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<v Speaker 1>talking about careers in courses and classes, to where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just creativity, it's music, it's arts, is cooking, and hands on,

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<v Speaker 1>ends on, and you just end that for for two

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<v Speaker 1>periods of the day. For the beginning of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You start your day off with something that you like

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You're not just going into a classroom and listen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're starting your day of doing an activity that

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<v Speaker 1>you've chosen that you want to be a part of,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're learning, you're creating, and it's just dope, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. It's great. So there's a lot of when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about youth, we're talking about violence, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, getting ourselves organizing. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of really really dangerous and serious things happening um where

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<v Speaker 1>I think we It's probably one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>the evolution is such a slow drip, because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're moving forward and there are people who are pushing

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<v Speaker 1>to change the culture and to uh, you know really

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I really want to be intentional about my point.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who are really fighting to get the

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<v Speaker 1>government to come out of its old and and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of archaic ways of thinking about educating youth about dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with mental health and other issues. Right there, you you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you are one of those people that constantly

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<v Speaker 1>talks about how no one can just sit you down

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<v Speaker 1>for two hours and just talk to you. Want back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth about your issues. To help you with your needs.

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<v Speaker 1>You need people from a therapeutic perspective. Yes, you can

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and talk to them sometimes, but also that

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<v Speaker 1>they may be able to come into your world, see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing, work with you from a very hands

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<v Speaker 1>on perspective. Now, maybe the fact that we're now in

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<v Speaker 1>our forties we could sit still a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>But certainly a young child will not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>learn the same way that other communities learned. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that and to be uh, you know, to receive therapeutic

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<v Speaker 1>services and other things in those ways. And so with

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, there are folks who are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>pushing to change the culture. But when you have such

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic events like what we see happening across this country

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<v Speaker 1>going on, it takes us back. So even if you

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<v Speaker 1>go forward, you go back because people get afraid, People

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, traumatized. It's a lot. You've got four

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<v Speaker 1>people killed here, just you know, in the last four

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. Obviously we're taping this show, so when

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.359
<v Speaker 1>people hear it, it will be a week old. And

0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a thing that it's a week old by the time,

0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, several days passes, we're like, well, that happened

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a week ago. Buffalo shooting happened, you know now, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, probably fifteen sixteen days ago. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, but in media time, the cycle just keeps changing.

0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Four people shot in a medical center. Then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the police doing what police do, uh, shooting an unarmed

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<v Speaker 1>black woman who was suspected to be in a stolen car.

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<v Speaker 1>She was with a guy, allegedly the guy I ran uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and the woman when they told her to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, try to explain that she was pregnant and

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<v Speaker 1>that she could not lay down, and the police shot

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<v Speaker 1>her multiple times. She wasn't in a pocket, she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>None of the witnesses have said she grabbed for anything

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<v Speaker 1>or did anything that should have caused her to be

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<v Speaker 1>shot as a pregnant woman. But again, uh, police will

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<v Speaker 1>be police, and so that happened. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where other governments are catching on quicker than us,

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<v Speaker 1>because in a place like Canada, they are banning or

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<v Speaker 1>at least there are new regulations that will ban the

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<v Speaker 1>sale of purchases for certain types of handguns, right um

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe all handguns. So people are like, yo, we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing what's going on in America, and we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit by and allow our nation to be riddle with

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<v Speaker 1>the same types of watunate traumas. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell they're doing in Washington, d C. We ultimately

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.880
<v Speaker 1>have no choice but to to fight for and find

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>for ourselves. Actually, you know, and and and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that there's going to be legislation passed in New

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.399
<v Speaker 1>York City will be an opencare state. I mean New

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<v Speaker 1>York State. I apologize New York State. That's even worse

0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like when we when we look and see that gun

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<v Speaker 1>violence is up, and then we're gonna make it more

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<v Speaker 1>easy to access guns. I don't even understand how we

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize that's a recipe for disaster, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of situation is everybody shouldn't have a gun,

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's what the problem is. Obviously, the

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>guns are getting into the hands of people who shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have guns. When you look at these mass shootings, these

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you know, cultable, you know culpable ready, you know

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>informed people it would have packed the background check and

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>should be able to have guns. So when we understand

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that something is not working, why do we continue to

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 1>exacerbate the mistake. It doesn't really make sense to me.

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, New York is on fire will gun violence.

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.280
<v Speaker 1>People who don't are getting illegal So now you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it a lot easier for somebody who shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a going to get it. I just understand the logic.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't. Yeah, we don't need people on the trains

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<v Speaker 1>in New York that are already it's suffering from like

0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 1>all types of trauma. I don't even know what it's

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>called that's going on to go on the train. Who's

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>sick man? People fucked up people? Yeah, people, peoples by

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a gun. People fucked up out here yet. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, you we look at our police, who supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>are trained to deal with situations, and they say they

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<v Speaker 1>fear for their and they make mistakes and they shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna give guns to people where've got nothing

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<v Speaker 1>near with the police, got in hope that in situation

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as road rage when somebody cuts you off and

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 1>they get out and they got a gun named blowing

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<v Speaker 1>your head. You see. We literally seen sick people driving

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<v Speaker 1>on the highway and shoot that cars because they are arguing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but I mean your point is so valid,

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<v Speaker 1>my son, because when you think of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>young kids sat in the classroom for over an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>some shot, some almost dying, others who I've been told

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<v Speaker 1>was shot a second time because there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>room for additional horror. Um you know, sack there for

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<v Speaker 1>all and out. And now, I mean, I don't even

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 1>know how you talk about kids babies who for one second,

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<v Speaker 1>if your baby is lost from you in a crowd

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>for one second, it can turn into a complete meltdown

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and break down for a child. So imagine people bloody

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, big boom, sounds of shots going off,

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and there was no help. So these police officers who

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>stood they said at least nineteen officers were in the

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>hallway standing there. If they didn't do anything to deal

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>with the shooter, why are we now all of a

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 1>sudden so convinced that a resource officer it's gonna do something.

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, then fucking fire the police officers,

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly if you're giving us all guns to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>protect ourselves, and what what is the police officers doing

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>that we can't do ourselves one hours in percent, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, nobody's explained that to me. So just thinking

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>about so much stuff that's happening. I don't want to

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.199
<v Speaker 1>be a conspiracy theorist, as they say, I don't even

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>know if theorist is a word, but I don't want

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a conspiracy theorist person. But I'm really just

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out because there's so much to process,

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>And the last few weeks, I've been like, I don't

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>even want to post anything on socials because I gotta

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like think before I gotta like gather my thoughts and

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>gather myself before I speak. But I've been noticing over

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<v Speaker 1>the last few weeks that while we're dealing with like

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<v Speaker 1>all this trauma in terms of like how what type

0:24:55.359 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>of horrific incidents are happening, there's also mad had health challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm trying to figure out if when you get

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>old allergies come on. I mean, I'm really I know

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>this is totally off topic. It's a real thing because

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<v Speaker 1>I never had no damn allergies to like, last I

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know what no allergies was. Like, I would

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>sneeze a little bit. But now I feel like I

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>got I can't breathe, I feel like my eyes is

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>always itching, I gotta something in my throat is like

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>cotton balls and my nose. It's like, Yo, this is

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the worship I've ever felt. And it just started happening.

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, when did all this you just started happening.

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>The last two years I have been experiencing allergies. Last

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 1>year wasn't as bad. This year. I literally had several incidents,

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>like different periods where I could not breathe, my throat

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>was hurting, I was feeling exhausted. I almost felt like

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I had a flu, but I didn't because you know,

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I get a COVID test very often, and you're not

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the COVID. How about that you could have the flu? No, No,

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>no COVID tests that I get they test for the flu. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they flabbed me a little deeper because they

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>go for the flu as well. You know, you should

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>learn how to get you some of those good no

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>thinking me I do, but I feel like, wow, like

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<v Speaker 1>what what? I don't understand it. And people have been

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>saying like the environment is not what it should be.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>So I'm thinking, like, is it is? Can allergies be

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>caused by the environment? Even today at the press conference?

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But then how is pollen we need like a medical expert,

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Like how is a an environmentalist? How is poll pollen

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>impacted by like global warming and all of that. I

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like it could be. I mean, what happens is

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>trees of growing, and the more the woman gets I

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>guess trees are going fast and they're probably producing more poling.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't really give you. I'm just that was just

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>some ship I thought about. But when you drive around now,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you're literally seeing clogs of pollen everywhere. Like I was

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>driving on the highway and I could just see the ship.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I had to close my window. I couldn't even reath

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>because it was so much pollen that started coming inside

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>of my car. So like I see, like I guess

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 1>being sick when you when something ails you and you

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>know you know it's the cause of your sickness. And

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you see it, you get real. So I'm very aware

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of piling that. Yeah, I mean, you know, we pay

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>attention to coughing. Anybody cought. Everybody's like, what's why are

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you coughing? And I noticed today at the press conference

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 1>that in the middle of the mayor speaking he had

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<v Speaker 1>to keep breaking to cough. It's allergies. Probably, of course

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask him, but everywhere I go I noticed

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that more people are like, yo, I'm really dealing with it.

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm scratching, you know, people are are experiencing the side

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>effects of uh, I guess an allergy to polling, as

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you said, And I'm just like, I don't want to

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>do conspiracies because I don't know. But it's like all

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>these things are happening at the same time, and it's

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>really weird out with the flu, that's just you know,

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 1>this variant everybody's allergies is acting up. The football players

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>is dying suddenly, like it's just it's like every time

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I turn, every time I opened my Instagram, I'm seeing

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody to die. And I'm noticing football players, basketball players

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>like or at least the former or current there. They

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>just checking out. It's a car accident. It's a hard

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>issue rappers of course, so entertainers. It's like the energy

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw on um John Gray, Reverend John Gray's page.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, we need a revival of the soul, and

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was the most powerful thing that I

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:16.239
<v Speaker 1>have read in a long time. We need a revival

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of the soul because this text and right, and I

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like white supremacy amplifies all of this ship exactly.

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like you've got a cold, you gotta allergies, and

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you've got white supremacy. Well, because they don't want to acknowledge,

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you know not they but the system has failed to

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>correct or address environmental issues. There's not even an acknowledgement

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>from UH, from the Republican Party in particular around the

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that global warming is an issue and that we're

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>having climate change. So that's one thing policing is out

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of control. Also something that would be and fought tooth

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and nail on um everything. So that's the deal. So

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to day, Yes, we are being joined by two women

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>who we talked about gun violence awareness longth There's two

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>women who were instrumental in helping us to get this

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this month off the ground and for the last several

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>years we've all worked together in different capacities to refine

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it and to continue to work of the crisis management

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>system in different ways. You've got within, Uh, well, we'll

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>let them talk about what CMS looks like and all

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the types of folks that work within the network, um

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Ms Risa Napper Williams of Not Another Child, and also

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>our dear system Ms E Faith Charles, who has been

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in the trenches with me for a real long time

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and she has been a strategist in this movement, working

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>in the Bronx and working in different organizations, but now

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>she's actually working on um, you know, changing the culture

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>within the court system in New York, which is a

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>part of it. That's what the network is supposed to

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>be all about, holistic work. So let's bring them on. So,

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>as has been mentioned, we're being joined during Gun Violence

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Awareness Month in New York by two really really important

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>individuals on this show, my son. We always have our friends, friends,

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>friends and more friends, but we do know some incredible

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>people who do incredible work, and Gun Violence Awareness Month

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>is important, uh, really special to me because we started

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it with these individuals some years ago. Um, you know,

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>working to try to make sure that the City of

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>New York is really focused on the people doing the

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>work and the people who are truly impacted. And and

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the two people that we're joined with today two black women,

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>by the way. Uh. And you can't say, oh, we

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>only have black women on this show that do things,

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>because we've been having a lot of black men lately,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>So don't even try it. But uh, ms Oresa Napper

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Williams of Not Another Child. Uh. And also miss E

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Faith Charles, who is she has a big title. First

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of all, she worked with People and Culture Center for

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Court Innovation, so she's in the system transforming the system,

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>but also is the immediate past leader, if you will,

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of anti violence projects and initiatives in New York City. Um.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>She has been working in the Bronx coordinating and organizing

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>all of us for some time. Ms. Orresa is actually

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>a mother who lost her son un um two gun violence.

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>And so we're dealing with two people who are very

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>very close to both of you. I think also, UM,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I f a, you lost the child as well, and

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>my I didn't. My son did not die from gun violence.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>But I've lost the sun. Yeah, okay, but you lost

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the sun, so that in and of itself. So we're

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>we're we're we're talking with two individuals today and my

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>son and I have just been really trying to get

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>into this whole idea of shootings happening across the country

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and what it means. Some of it, of course, is

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>racially incentivized or or at least racially motivated. Others are

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>mental health situations, you have other things that you know,

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>our poverty, UH motivated. So there's shootings happening and people

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>are noticing it. And one of the things that I

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>said today when I spoke at and of course we

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>were taping this show today UM for UH an upcoming

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>UM show UH excuse me, an upcoming episode of Street Politicians.

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that I said today is

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>that we as in this group, the CMS group, which

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is the Crisis Management System in New York UM, as

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.439
<v Speaker 1>well as individual organizers around the city of New York,

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>have sounded the alarm. And I talked about how in

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three, UM Malcolm X said that the chickens

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>were coming home to rooties, UM, and here we are

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>watching it happen happen across the nation where people like you,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Miss Risa and e Fay have been out there hitting

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the pavement, telling the government, officials, corporations, community members that

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>if we did not stop to deal with this issue,

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we are going to experience an insurmountable UH level of

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>violence across the nation. And here we are. People are afraid,

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>there able to leave their homes. We've got shootings at

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>grocery stores. We've got shootings in hospitals, we've got shootings

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>just in general and schools of children. And yet here

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we come to a place where everybody's saying what to do.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>And yet we have laid out of blueprint years and

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>years and years and years and years. So we want

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that blueprint today and my son, let

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>me kick it to you to invite these two wonderful

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>ladies to be a part of our conversation. Well, thank you,

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>quite thank you. As you just mentioned, we just left

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>um UH press conference in which we spoke about gun

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Violence Awareness Month, which is the start of the gun

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>violence Awareness Month. But if you see these shirts, this

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is the gun violence awareness movement because for us who

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>do this work, it's just not about a month, it's

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>not about the day. It's all the time. And we

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep and we wake up with this work,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and we've been joined by two phenomenal women, Black women

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>who have been on the forefront of this work for

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a long time. So I just want to start with

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I f A, who right now is You know, she

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>has elevated and involved into she's inside the system now

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.479
<v Speaker 1>and you know she's able to attack it that way.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>But she's always been a frontline worker, you know, like

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you said, she's been in the Bronx organizing and putting

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>together some of the best crisis management systems and organizations

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that we have. So I f A, you know, we

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>look at this influx of violence, right and like like

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Tamka said, the chickens coming home to roost, and we've

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>been saying what was gonna happen? What do you think

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>is the major cause? And what should how should they

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>be attacking it? Well, first of all, you know, I

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>want to salute to you, sister Tomica, and to my

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>brother my son. You know, when you sit back here

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and in spaces with the both of you, there is

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a conscious awareness that I hold onto from both of

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you guys, right because it's a consistency in the way

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that you do this work. Um, to my sisters BURRISA

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>always salute you, says, um, just for what you're doing now,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.760
<v Speaker 1>because I think as you talked about that when Malcolm

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about the chickens coming home to roots, we are

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are hair now right, we're hand hands deep, and you

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>know the rooster's growing, right. That's what's going on right now.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>And so in my experience and in my work, and

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I go back to brother A. T. Mitchell, who when

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we started doing some stuff way back and we had

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the sights that would being evaluated and research to come

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>up with systems to address gun violence. I think the

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>way that my brain always works about this is their

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>compot realization of what's act happening. There's two pieces of this, right.

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You have this national piece where gun laws need to

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>be changed, policies need to be uplifted, um, you know,

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>marginalization of people needs to be definitely destroyed. And then

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you have on a local level where there's a need

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for involvement. So when we just talked about my song,

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>when you talked about the that we've been doing or

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>researching you and and to making a bunch of other folks,

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's about consistency. It's about consistency in the way that

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you lead. It's about consistency in the way that you

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>address problems. Too often what we do as a city

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is we run for the newest and latest thing, right,

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>not looking at what has worked really in the past

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and sticking with it. You can't have a cookie cutter

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>approach to gun violence. You cannot, right because the levels

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>to this madness. Like I say this, I tell them

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to make the last Night, it's levels to this ship.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>If I can cuttle, can I can? I say, customers,

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>this ltts right, it's it's my acronym that I made

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>up the levels to this ship. And so too often

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 1>what happens is that you know, you have people who

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>who who want to be in the front, but there's

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>work that needs to be done behind. And I think

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about what's the approaches and what we

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>need to do, I think we need to seriously evaluate

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>who's doing work right under standard. We will each have

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a role in this work. There is something that's gonna

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>fight from a macro level, and there's those that are

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>going to fight from the inside on the street level,

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of what CMS is doing. But

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>addressing it comes from both angles. It just can't be

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>one solution, and I think that's what people are trying

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>right now, is just one approach. And and and I

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 1>think Malcolm's quote of the chicken comings home to roost,

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>we would be roosting for quite some time if we

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>don't look at the multiple levels two gun violence and

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>so Risa, you know what, what do you think we

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>need to do? How do you think we should be attacking?

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think you know is the most

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>sustainable strategy? After being in this movement for so many

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>years and seeing what's work, seeing was failed understanding after

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>we just heard the mayor and his speech about how

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 1>he plans to go about it, what is your pion?

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>So first, thank you Mice and make Up for inviting

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>me today. It is a simply a pleasure to be

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>here with you guys. Um, and thank you for always

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>seeing me as more than a parent, more than a

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:10.479
<v Speaker 1>mother that lost the child. Um. And I really think

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the way that CMS has always moved forward where we

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>always moved together, and before you go forward, because I

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>think we keep saying CMS and we have not explained us,

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.240
<v Speaker 1>so folks will say, well, what are they talking about?

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't tell us what you are part of in

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>New York. So it is the New York City crisis

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>management system. UM. Several models was looked at from over

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the country, and we know that, uh, the biggest model,

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I would say at that time that actually had the

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>data that it worked was pure balanced, which was balanced

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>interruptors and outreach workers. But um Coe, the co architects

0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>in New York, you know, you guys A t. Aerica

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to Meka f all of you pioneers from years ago,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>saw that that was not enough for our city and

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>what we need. And you guys are the are the pioneers.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>So let me know if I got the history right.

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you guys knew that it was more

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that after you took the gun out of her hand,

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>after you gave a job, therapeutic support was still needed,

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>professional mental health services was still needed. Employment opportunities, you know,

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was still needed. And so the system comprises of not

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>just the balance interruptors and the outreach workers as the anchor,

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>but also the wraparound services which is greatly needed. UM.

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of models do not reflect the mental instability

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that comes along um with gun balance. It does not

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>reflect the layers of drama that is a leading cause

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of gun balance. And CMS does. And so I think,

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>going back to my question, you know, that's what we

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>need to do is expand on that. Right now, CMS

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>is only in and if a correct me, if I'm wrong,

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's thirties something maybe forty sites um and

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>about sixteen catchment areas or something to that effect. But

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be expanded on. The other thing that

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>was spoken of today was the interconnecting with city agencies.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, no longer should we be working in silos

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>where um, I never forget. I have a parent that

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I was with and her son was murdered. She was

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 1>at his house visiting him for his birthday, which was

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>two days prior. She heard some organs. She went out

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to the steps and he was like, mom, good, I'm

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>good when it next thing she heard was gunshots and

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>came out and saw her child rolling down the steps.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>When we went back a day later, his blood still

0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>laid on the ground. And so we need sanitation to

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>be a partly to be even given a time constraint

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>of no. Twelve to twenty four hours, this blood should

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>be off of our streets. Our parents should not be

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.959
<v Speaker 1>and family members should not be retraumatized to come back

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and see the blood of their loved ones there. And

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so I think having someone in um in the position

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>of the czar, you know which he is from the

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.479
<v Speaker 1>streets and know the needs from there to be able

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to come back and implement it with the health and

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the support of the city agencies is dope, you know.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think it was the faith that

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>said a little while ago, you know that we just

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>always do as comfortable, We do the same things over

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and over. This is a major monumental like this has

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>never happened before. So I'm looking forward to the success

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>with it. Well so for folks who are listening, um,

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and for those who may not understand, because we're so

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>close to it that when we speak of it, we

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>speak as if everybody knows and they should and they should.

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>But today, um, well, let let me go back before

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>before that, over a decade ago, a number of us

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>came together to work on building the crisis management system.

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>We were told no by previous administrations because the purpose

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of the crisis management system and our fight was to

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 1>get resources for formally incarcerated individuals, youth families whether they

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>be victims, and or the families of victims. To be advocates,

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>people to work in hospitals, people uh to be there

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>with therapeutic services, people to deal specifically with you know,

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>extreme mental health issues, jobs, so on and so forth.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>That was the model that we came together to create,

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and through that model we created CMS and the first

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and I think Mayor Bloomberg was the mayor who told

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 1>us no. But it happened to be that at that

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>time there was a a mayoral election and all the

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>candidates wanted our support because we had organized ourselves around

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the city to be a force, and gun violence numbers

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>were up, and so people were looking for our support.

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And to her credit, Christine Quinn was the speaker of

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>the city council but also running for mayor. And um

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>of course, Jimani Williams was a city council person at

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>that time, along with a brother, Finandal. Finandal He's was

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the city councilperson. And so we worked with them outside

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of near Bloomberg to get the first five million dollars

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>distributed to grassroots groups one million dollars per borrow five

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 1>boroughs in New York so that they could do gun

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>violence intervention work. What we learned was that the major

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>thing that they would focus on was data. And so

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we learned that, and we knew we had to provide

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>data that shows the shootings were down. Shootings dicked tremendously

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and as a result, now crisis management, the crisis management

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>system is up to over a hundred million dollars that

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>goes to individuals who are former who are organizing and

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>employing formally incarcerated folks and you know, and others. A T. Mitchell,

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>who's one of those in the beginning, is now the

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>new Tsar. I've been saying Caesar, but anyways, are uh Tzar?

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, Okay, So he got a title, y'all,

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he got a title, got a violent intervention and prevention

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 1>in New York City. Today was announced by our mayor.

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>This to me once again, and if that you you know,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>jump in here. But once again, we're setting an example,

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we're setting the tone again. After more than a decade,

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>we're finding new ways to revitalize our movement for UH

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to fight violence in our city. Very similar to relationships.

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Every now and then, when you with a man or

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a woman, you've got to set evaluated, you got to

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>evaluated relationship. And and and that's and I think. I

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's what we're doing as a city is there's

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>an evolution is happening, right. People are evolving, and I

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>think there was a point in this movement where we

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>were standing still, right, and we'll be dependent upon the funding.

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.399
<v Speaker 1>What I've seen with the movement, there's this innovation that

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>is happening, right, there's this different thinking process. This's the

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>way that we're moving around the city. And so you're

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>right to me, good if any relationship that you had

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>have you've got to grow, right, do either grow up

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>or you grow out. I think what's happening right now

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing in the city this need because this is

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what I say about gun violence, there's a cross pollination

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>of the effects of gun violence. Right. So what just

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>happened in Buffalo, which just happened in in in in

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:21.439
<v Speaker 1>New Valley, in Texas, what's happening right here in the city.

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 1>This is heading home for everybody, right. It is no

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>longer isolated. It's no longer saying well, it's only happening

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn and in best eyeing in rons only the

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>black and brown communities. This is happening nationally. And the

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I think now what you have is the support of

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>folks like the president, like a mayn that's saying, okay,

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>so we have a model, we know that aspects of

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>this model works. Let's use it, but then build upon it, right,

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and let's take someone who's had the experience. Because I

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>tell people all the time, this work is not for

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the faint at heart. If you want to do gun

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>violence work, you have to breathe it, sleep bit. You

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>also have to sometimes step away from it. Like I

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>told to make it yesterday. It just doesn't fit into

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 1>my spirit because just the death of people consistently could

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>be traumatizing. So when Cistisa starts talking about the trauma

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in the past, that wasn't even a part of the picture. Right.

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 1>So as we evolved now in the city, looking at

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>different aspects and different tools to address gun violence, this

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>holistic approach we talked about it. You can do this

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 1>work unless you think about the entire group of people

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a nation to people, right, that's who we have to

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>think about. And so I think the way that we're

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>moving now in the city where we're addressing to make it.

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>My son, you knew this like ten fifteen years ago,

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 1>mental health issue wasn't discussed with gun violence. It was

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>never said simultaneously that it exists in the same house,

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 1>and now they were thinking about it. We're looking at

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>aspects as a reason. Just talked about the trauma that happens,

0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like people are literally talking about how trauma affect individuals

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and not only the individuals who are victims or those

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>who are perpetrators of crimes. We're talking about the network, right,

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>this idea of community. So for me, when I think

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>about it, we have evolved. We started off with five millions,

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>now over a hundred plus. We have over thirty something

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 1>sites in the city. The mayor is specifically looking at

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>ways to broaden this aspect, not just through CMS, but

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in other avenues. To me, a multi layer approach to

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>addressing gun violence is what's needed. And I think that's

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>what we're doing, and it is my hope and we

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have to remember this. I'll say this and I'll pass

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it on. This can be resolved overnight. Yeah, this is

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a long term investment, right, you know, like when you

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>put your little dollar in the bank, if you think

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you're getting three point three percent interest and it's gonna grow.

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>This takes a while, but it takes a while with

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>people who are committed in its consistency. And again I

0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 1>will say this, because we're brown and black, the money

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>has to match the value of the human life. And

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>too often when we're talking about blank and brown and

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>black communities and marginal lives communities, we always want to

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just give a little bit, right. We don't want to

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:18.359
<v Speaker 1>open the pot fully, and that is problematic because that's

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>not where equity is right. Because when we think about

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>our others who have been injured, laws, policies, investment changes

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have been made and it's time for that to happen.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think with under Mayor Adams and others um

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that that potentially could happen. So I'm optimistic. I really

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 1>am optimistic. I'm optimistic as well. You know when I

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>was sitting there listening and I was just, you know,

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just just looking at how the crisis management system has grown, right,

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing a lot of guys that I know,

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 1>people who've been formally incarcerated, Guys that I've watched completely

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>changed their lives, changed their mind states that are really

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>inside the communities who used to be doing harm in

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>those communities, who have invested the same and not more

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 1>energy into transforming the mind state of the young kids

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>who had the same mindset that they have, and they're

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>invested in it, right. So when I understand that they're

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.319
<v Speaker 1>invested in it without really having the monetary things that

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>they want, just because their heart ist into it. Right.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 1>So when we start to incentivize that change and we

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>start to you know, we start to reward that change,

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and people start to realize that, you know what, I

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>can actually make a living, I can be successful, and

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I can be changing my community. I could be something

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>positive because negativity and violence is is um incentivized in

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>our culture. You know, when we look at all of

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the negative artists and hip hop and all of the things,

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>they making millions of dollars. So when these kids see them,

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>right and the comparing them to you who telling them

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to stop the violence? And you don't look like you successful,

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't look like you have anything, who are they

0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>really gonna listen to? And that's what I try to

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>say it. If you want us to heat with the violence,

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>then you gotta give us the resources and give us

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the ability to compete, give us the same stages, and

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.799
<v Speaker 1>give us the same platforms, and give us the same

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 1>resources that you give the counterparts. So you know, I'm

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>very optimistic. At this point, it seems as Mayor Um

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Williams said that he wants to not only the Adams

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Man Adams Man Adams apologize. Matt Adams said that he

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't just want to make this you know, it's it's

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>separate entity. He wanted to make this a part of

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the first another leg of government. He's saying that this

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>is the fourth lag you know, and and this and

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 1>this and and it's it really is common sense for me.

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like when you have a community and people who

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>are in that community every day, who know the people

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>every day, who have relationships, who build relationships over years,

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>who have respect and all those things, and those people

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>are incentivized to stop the violence and utilize that respect

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and you lives, all of the things that they've gained

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>over their lives to make sure that negativity doesn't happen,

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 1>in opposed to just having a police system that comes

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>in when there's the violence is happening and comes in

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>as an after, you know, as a response, no, you

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>know you have I think that when you combine both

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of those things, because there will be things that you

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>some at some point, it will get to a level

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that we might have to call police, but I think

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>more often than not, if you give us those resources,

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that will be able to intervene and stop a lot

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of violence in the community. So I'm really hopeful and

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to what the future has. Like you said,

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be an overnight thing. It's not gonna

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>be it's gonna have to be invested in. It's gonna

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>be a process. It's gonna be a long haul. But

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you will see the narrative shift. You will see the

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 1>culture start to shift. You will see the people who

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 1>are celebrated for doing positivity will start to give people

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 1>those same platforms and will say it's accolades in the

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>same everything else that negativity has gotten for the last

0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of decades, Mr Resa, what exactly as a mother?

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I know you said that you obviously, you know you

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>do a lot more than just focusing on grief as

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.879
<v Speaker 1>a mom um, which in and of itself is a lot.

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But what exactly do you do? I watched you today,

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>as you know, some of our people would talking when

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't have been, you know, doing things that you

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>know we always need, you always have to have mothers

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:37.280
<v Speaker 1>of the movement. Um and I watched you today facilitating

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:43.440
<v Speaker 1>everything from process to behavior to you know, everything, decorum,

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. What exactly is it that um that

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that not another child does? And also you specifically, how

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>do you see your role in this movement? Yeah? You know,

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 1>they they I'm the smallest one, but I'm I'm a

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 1>mother of all day today. And so you know, we

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>started off with just a basketball tournament because one of

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the young men that played guilty to my son's murder

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was fifteen UM and it was in the middle of

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the summer, August seven, and a mother when this happens,

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 1>when this experience happens, they always want to scream out

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>so that everybody will know their hurt and how they feel.

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:33.319
<v Speaker 1>And and that's where I was at, you know, but

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to scream out to youth, you know, fifteen

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>year old. I wanted after two year old, to know

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 1>what your choices and the consequences and decisions was doing

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the people and how they was hurting people. And I

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>started out with what they love for basketball, game and food,

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and set that platform to be heard. But

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>as the years went by, more parents kept showing up,

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, from both sides of the gun to really

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:06.240
<v Speaker 1>get that support, you know, on how can I identify

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>if my son is really into something like this or

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just trying to get through the pain

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of losing my child, you know. And so we grew

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>into more of a therapeutic organization. I would like to

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>say that everything that we do has a therapeutic basis.

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we grew into peer support sessions for

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 1>parents of homicide victims, um because you know, if it's

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>left up to us, nobody knows how we feel. Nobody,

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>but that's just us. Don't be offended if one of

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 1>us say it to you. You know, that's just don't

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody know how I feel. Actually somebody may know, but

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, just those support sessions so that we can

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 1>support each other, you know, without the assistance of a

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 1>counselor and different things like that. And so that's our

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 1>our family support aspect. The peer support sessions, the retreats

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>where we go away, you know, um, just different things

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we do with the parents, helping them two or providing

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>therapy for them, unconventional therapeutic support. We just went to

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Hatches and Hops, which is an event space where you

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>throw hatchets, you know, and so we made it where

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a place for them to relieve you know, anger

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and things. And they also had to be you know,

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>just looking straightforward at what they were trying to target.

0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So we do different events and things like that for them. Um,

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>even with our basketball tournament now that my son actually

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 1>came to one year when we first came up to Harlem.

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>The therapeutic aspect of that is the teams bring pictures

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of loved ones that they have lost the gun balance

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and we hang them all around the park so that

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>they're playing in memory of them and you know, hoping

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>that that will differ or deter retaliation, you know. Um.

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>We have other youth groups out the hood where we

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:15.479
<v Speaker 1>take kids out of their neighborhood. You know, We've taken

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>them to Wild Club John Studio showed them you don't

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>have to be a rapper to be in the industry,

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, exposing them to various cultures and careers. We

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 1>have um Buds, which is the brother's, uncle's, dad's and

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>sons mentorship program. And we have Brown Boys book Club.

0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So we do you know, we do cleanups I'll call it,

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, after child, after loved one is murdered, to

0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:40.919
<v Speaker 1>me because you know, you call me plenty of days

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 1>with a parent with a wife, you know, to provide

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>support to them, but also trying to at here our

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>children from going either either side of the gun, you know, um,

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And that is what we do do do the other

0:59:57.040 --> 1:00:02.840
<v Speaker 1>youth programs that we have, you know. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>hear Resa speak like, my mind is always blown at

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we have evolved. Right That the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what therapy has been because a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>is brown and blacks. The way that we heal in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we deal with things have not been mainstream.

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<v Speaker 1>And the evolution of us as a city to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>nontraditional therapeutic services and say that all in the same sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>that's growth for us as city, right because and before

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you pushed the traditional and and and no

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect to white folks who are clinicians, but we pushed

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional white is m of therapy on people of color,

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<v Speaker 1>totally not engaging religion, totally not engage in the village

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<v Speaker 1>that we have as people of color, totally not engaging

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the research just speak about parents and

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<v Speaker 1>getting mothers together. So the fact that we have now

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<v Speaker 1>been able to recognize that nontraditional support for families is

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<v Speaker 1>under the city and has talked about in city documents

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<v Speaker 1>as non traditional. That is growth. But again this idea

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<v Speaker 1>around uplifting and bringing cultural competency to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we grieve differently. That is recognition by the city. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I told Resent this before. I remember when my

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<v Speaker 1>son passed, he died from an illness, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>was going through my feelings of loss and depression, I

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<v Speaker 1>was told, go to God, right, go to church. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do. What we change now, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not bad because that's what we do as people of

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<v Speaker 1>color back from slavery. You know, we pray to the

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<v Speaker 1>same oppressed lists or we go to be oppressist to

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<v Speaker 1>relieve us from stuff that we're going through. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen in the city right now is a

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<v Speaker 1>mayor recognize in the fact that which you consider to

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<v Speaker 1>be traditional for some communities, you can't not do for

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<v Speaker 1>other communities. And that recognition right there in itself, to

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<v Speaker 1>me is an advancement in the way that we're approaching

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<v Speaker 1>the work and the way that we're approaching leadership in

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<v Speaker 1>the support that's needed. So just aresa talking about and

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<v Speaker 1>I think Theresa has done it. She has put moms

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<v Speaker 1>um in the city on the local level at a

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<v Speaker 1>higher platform because before parents of victims were not really

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<v Speaker 1>given the opportunity that's right within the process of healing.

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<v Speaker 1>Has done in the past two years, I think has

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<v Speaker 1>made it a much more vocal point that people recognize

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<v Speaker 1>there is a need to support parents and loved one

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<v Speaker 1>right not just through victims services, but through the the

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<v Speaker 1>the collective village that we'll grow into CMS. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, my son. You know what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say is I think what you test on something that

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<v Speaker 1>was so important, you know, and its cultural relevancy is

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<v Speaker 1>is the way that we do things. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've always every government official I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>critical of. I'm not gonna just let you pass because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got black skin, because we went to sleep before,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I've been critical of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that man Adams has said, you know, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>and i've i've held him to it, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>today he said some really powerful things, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>he spoke as a black man, he didn't speak as

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<v Speaker 1>a politician, and he spoke to people and said and

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<v Speaker 1>basically said, you don't understand us. You don't understand what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that we go through in our communities. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how we grieve. You might not understand our lingo.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody here you looking at you saying what are they

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<v Speaker 1>doing here? But the bottom line is we know, we

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<v Speaker 1>know what we're doing. We know we got this boogaloo

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we do that works for us, that our community.

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<v Speaker 1>There's people in this and that's in this crowd right

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<v Speaker 1>now that can talk with gunning out of somebody's hands

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<v Speaker 1>way different than you can. And you're gonna go there

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<v Speaker 1>with your textbook theory of how it's supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And these people right here have been shooters, have known

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<v Speaker 1>what it is to be shoot has been around, and

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<v Speaker 1>they't know exactly what to do. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give them the opportunity to do what they've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>their whole life, and we're gonna make sure that it's

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<v Speaker 1>recognized as someone who does first responsory. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>really important for me. It wasn't just the regular old

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that the politicians have and we want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He really he really spoke to that and making a

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<v Speaker 1>t mit you Bisarre, someone who I know very personal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know how he does this work. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the relationships that he has in communities. I know his background,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the people around him background, I know how

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<v Speaker 1>engaged and serious he is about this work, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know how he's going to bring more people who have

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<v Speaker 1>that same vigor, who have that same background, who have

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<v Speaker 1>that same intention into this work and the people he's

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<v Speaker 1>already connected with, and and I'm just I'm just really excited, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited. Excited, mind, you know, I really because

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be culturally it's gonna be culturally relevant. Work

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to look like what people think it is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying a t and and the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>respect is that he said the fact that we we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make him part of government because we wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>to have his autonomy to do the work the way

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<v Speaker 1>he does it, to walk into communities the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he does, and still have be connected to the community,

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<v Speaker 1>but just an extension of a different level of government.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that is something that I've never seen done before,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's respected, has lived and learned experience, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>too often what we equate is that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple degrees in order to execute. And what he

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<v Speaker 1>is saying is that they are lived and learned experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>And I and I listen. I'm all push about education

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<v Speaker 1>because it shows that you can stick with something that's

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<v Speaker 1>continuous behavi and practice the theories around that, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>also theories about someone who has had to live and

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<v Speaker 1>learned experience. What I like about what's happening now is

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not glorifying our past mistakes, right and at

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we talk about the way this movement is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too many they want to highlight, Oh, I was this,

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<v Speaker 1>I was that. I think to shift minds on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Something you always say, even when you're talking about when

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<v Speaker 1>I've been following my own on I G and he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the rappers and all that stuff. The reality

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're talking grown folks business, right, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking the fact that I am sick me and talking

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<v Speaker 1>I was a shooter, I'm this gangster, I'm that person

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<v Speaker 1>I got destroyed. You're saying that was a part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've evolved because I understand the impact of my

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<v Speaker 1>own violence to myself, my community, and now I need

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<v Speaker 1>to shift right And so there's a shift in the

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<v Speaker 1>mind state that you're talking about, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're seeing. That is a mare that recognizes the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you don't have to have multiple degrees to

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<v Speaker 1>have impact. Right, There's a Meredith saying, let's invest and

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<v Speaker 1>use non traditional approaches to also aid in gun violence.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a Meredith saying, there are people that's been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this work who have evidence based in research data. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you know how our Sissy City is and how people

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<v Speaker 1>are Show me the data, show me that it's been researched,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's been able to do that, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a mayor that is committed and know that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>consistency to make change. That in itself is evolution, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That is yourself is innovation for us, it is it is,

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<v Speaker 1>It is innovation. It is certainly I believe in it

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe in a t and in many ways, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I believe in Eric also, the Mayor Adams, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in him because I know him since I

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<v Speaker 1>was a young child, and I know that he loves

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<v Speaker 1>black people. However, I do feel that the one trap

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<v Speaker 1>that that Mayor Adams may fall into that could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>be a trap for us as a movement and for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire city is the trap of believing that and

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<v Speaker 1>an investment and a continued stroke of the ego of

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<v Speaker 1>NYPD is going to somehow be the other side, the

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<v Speaker 1>other balance, if you will, of addressing gun violence, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>he said today, which of course he's gonna he he's

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<v Speaker 1>a former police officer. He believes in the police and

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<v Speaker 1>what you know and and and he believes in the

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<v Speaker 1>police and the police right. And he said today that

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<v Speaker 1>thirty of the shootings are down, um, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that he named the number of things, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>arrest rates of people with firearms, illegal firearms. He talked

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<v Speaker 1>about those things. He's going to tout that he's also

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor, which means he has to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>success of all his agencies, including the police department. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I realize and I hope and that

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<v Speaker 1>he also understands, is that we've also added more jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got more people back to work, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have more folks out in the world post COVID, visiting

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<v Speaker 1>other individuals out doing their work, getting their mental health

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<v Speaker 1>services back on track. And so while yes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the police have one role that in and of itself

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<v Speaker 1>is not and has never been, this solution or the

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<v Speaker 1>turn key way to address the needs of the community.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I I see how policing is important, but

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<v Speaker 1>the budget is extremely inflated for policing and there is

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<v Speaker 1>not enough money going to the services and the other

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<v Speaker 1>areas that I just mentioned. We know that police are

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<v Speaker 1>funded more than any other agency, so education is not

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<v Speaker 1>funded in the same way. Um you know, foods, food services,

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<v Speaker 1>to our community housing, all those things are suffering tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>and I really do hope that as a part of

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<v Speaker 1>what Mayor Adams does and what he is focused on,

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<v Speaker 1>that he realizes that there has to be a shift.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why, whether it frustrates people and it pisces

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<v Speaker 1>people off and whatever, we say, defund the police, not

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to take all the resources and completely

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of police, but we believe that police funding

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<v Speaker 1>needs to go down and the funding for our organizations,

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<v Speaker 1>um our, our networks and our services needs to increase.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see how that goes. Um you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>support the work I can be whether they say it's

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<v Speaker 1>no permanent friends, it's it's only permanent interests or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So we're not enemies. You know. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>Eric directly how I feel about some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he says, and that there's no he knows clearly. We

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<v Speaker 1>speak about it um when we see each other at

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<v Speaker 1>professional and door social events. I have said many times

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<v Speaker 1>I thought what you said on this is wrong or

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<v Speaker 1>it's right. But I do think that the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he was there today, that he's made the investment, and

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<v Speaker 1>that he named our brother the czar of gun violence

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<v Speaker 1>Intervention and Prevention is putting us on the right track

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<v Speaker 1>and once again, the people will save the city. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really what we're about online. That's the bottom line, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm with you on that. I don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>when they started talking about defunct police, I've always been like,

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<v Speaker 1>the language has always been, you know, as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a mediator, as a certified mediator, someone who's media.

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<v Speaker 1>The case is a lot of cases in my time.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality for me is that when we start using language,

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<v Speaker 1>it is toxic that can inflate and that can actually

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<v Speaker 1>create problems. You're right to me that I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a overwhemen amount of budget. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>it's an opportunity to shift some of that money to

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<v Speaker 1>other resources, right, And I'm hoping that Eric does that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that Maya adams Um does that across this

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<v Speaker 1>city because there is a balance, and that's what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about, the balance. All we know is police, right,

1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:16.080
<v Speaker 1>We've grown up only known police to resolve our situations.

1:12:16.400 --> 1:12:18.800
<v Speaker 1>When we look at Switzerland as a Switzerland and suite

1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and they have guns, they have a number of guns,

1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:25.240
<v Speaker 1>their gun crime stats are so dog gone low, right

1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:28.519
<v Speaker 1>for a place that owns guns and people use guns.

1:12:29.439 --> 1:12:33.280
<v Speaker 1>All we know in our country is police. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing that we turned to resolve in

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<v Speaker 1>all issues, whether domestic violence, whether you have your you

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<v Speaker 1>hit your big toe, whether your enable playing music too loud,

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<v Speaker 1>we call police. I think the shift that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see right now. And I'm not saying that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need police. I'm hoping at one point in our lives

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to have police resolve in everything. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that I would say is that I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that Eric, as a former police officer, understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do and I'm and him do this, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you have other ways to resolve community safety, invest

1:13:04.680 --> 1:13:08.360
<v Speaker 1>in community, allow people to have community sustainability practice and

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<v Speaker 1>plans allow young people. Change the way that we educate

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<v Speaker 1>our children in schools. We've taken away trade from the schools.

1:13:16.240 --> 1:13:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Right we automatically say that folks must go to college.

1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't give people another opportunity to be invested in

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<v Speaker 1>the arts, to invest in sports and other areas. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think for him right now, this is a great

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for him to reinvent the city, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>with the right people in place, he can do that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we will, uh, you know, we we we want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the conversation going. We're about to start a whole

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<v Speaker 1>uh sort of reinvite track of bringing back all the

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<v Speaker 1>folks that we have talked to over time to follow

1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:52.879
<v Speaker 1>up on where people are. Um. I think what's important

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<v Speaker 1>about this conversation today is we really kind of are

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<v Speaker 1>hoping folks who are sitting at home saying they either

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<v Speaker 1>want to get started or they already have grassroots organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that look like? What does the relationship look

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<v Speaker 1>like to work with the mayor who you may have

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<v Speaker 1>issues with on one hand, but on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>they have the resources you need to deal with certain

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<v Speaker 1>things in the community. There's many different layers to this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think in New York City, while we may

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<v Speaker 1>not have figured it all out, we certainly have a

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<v Speaker 1>good model for the nation. Um and miss or Resa,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say to you that your spirit and your

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<v Speaker 1>leadership UM not just being again a grieving mother, which

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<v Speaker 1>in and of itself is important, but taking that and

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<v Speaker 1>turning it into leadership is so important because you keep

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<v Speaker 1>us all centered, you keep us no bad. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anybody that has a problem with this or reason.

1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:49.400
<v Speaker 1>We all have issues with one another, were fighting each

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<v Speaker 1>other everywhere. I don't speak to this one, this one

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak over here, and the third, but we not.

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<v Speaker 1>None of us have that issue with you. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>important that we have mother. That's right. We need mothers

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<v Speaker 1>and fathers. That's because she comes with a pure spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I'm gonna say that all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people that all the time. You gotta have that.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't hear you, miss it. You gotta have a

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<v Speaker 1>pure spirit. And I'm giving your posies, you gotta have

1:15:19.160 --> 1:15:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a pure spirit. Fool with her. Because she has a

1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:26.960
<v Speaker 1>pure spirit. My motive and intent is pure. I just

1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:31.519
<v Speaker 1>wanna amplify. I don't want another mother to be where

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I really really don't. And so whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>have to do, I know everybody's staff, Like I mean

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<v Speaker 1>A t brought me in and when my mind goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to that first time that I met him, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's almost like twelve thirteen years ago. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's staff, I just because I know the important work

1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that they do, you know, and so pure heart you

1:15:57.080 --> 1:15:59.280
<v Speaker 1>do with a pure hearts you do have a pure

1:15:59.320 --> 1:16:03.600
<v Speaker 1>heart lies and organized has just come to the forefront

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more, you know, giving this platform to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do so. And because this is so important

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like shutting down the Brooklyn Bridge today, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>like like it was shut down I know to me

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<v Speaker 1>because you saw it. I know. My but coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the other way after going over the Brooklyn Bridge all

1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:29.320
<v Speaker 1>my life, always that stands still, always caused to see

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<v Speaker 1>it was like we was everybody's at a standstill, just

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<v Speaker 1>looking and bringing awareness to gun balance. And what's important

1:16:38.680 --> 1:16:44.280
<v Speaker 1>about that is today was one of several times over

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<v Speaker 1>the history of this thing. Now, as we were building it,

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<v Speaker 1>we bought caskets over. Yes, I think we gotta for

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<v Speaker 1>helping us to bring this thing to fruition, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for us. You know, sometimes in the movement

1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:06.519
<v Speaker 1>we get a little comfortable. People, you know, your numbers down,

1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you you're trying to just keep things

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<v Speaker 1>afloat a little contracts exactly. But now we gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>the eight team eighteen plus the newcomers back in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix and on the grind, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>save our communities. We can work with the community to

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<v Speaker 1>save our communities. And so that's what we're gonna focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you both, um, you know, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for your leadership. People need to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we in New York have to teach the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the country, uh, in pockets where they don't have models

1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:52.439
<v Speaker 1>like ours, how to do this work. My son, you

1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:55.479
<v Speaker 1>want to take us out. I just want to say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bow down to your beautiful black queens. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for all the work that you do, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for the energy that you bring, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your smile. Thank you for cussing themselves. Sometimes it's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason because we'll be needing it, you know. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say, hands on church mama, like a

1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:21.280
<v Speaker 1>recent and she'd be laying hands and got the holy look,

1:18:24.360 --> 1:18:29.400
<v Speaker 1>let them do. That's not me. You need it needed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want to say I love you all

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you part of you guys. Man, we

1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:36.720
<v Speaker 1>are just like you know when you think about the

1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:40.360
<v Speaker 1>baton being passed and the new generation of folks. Yo, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say this to you, my son. I

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing but love for you, y'all. Always in my prayer.

1:18:44.439 --> 1:18:46.680
<v Speaker 1>To Mika, you already now I feel about you. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. It is just great to

1:18:49.320 --> 1:18:52.840
<v Speaker 1>see the both of y'all where you bomb. I continue

1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to lift you all up. And every conversation. Thank you, Queen.

1:18:57.240 --> 1:18:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I know happy, but I know his birthday and all

1:18:59.160 --> 1:19:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that good stuff. They did. The episode airs on my

1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:09.120
<v Speaker 1>birthday next on on June eight. Yeah, geminis Taurist though

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't a Taurus season, but I'm what is yours?

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<v Speaker 1>What is doing was made sixteen I'm mad sex Okay, alright, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was something. I knew that tourist thing. Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Love y'all, y'all, Okay, thank you, y'all, thank you. I

1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:37.680
<v Speaker 1>love Missa, miss Orisa, and I love me. They just

1:19:37.920 --> 1:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>two of the baddest black queens that you know, and

1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:45.160
<v Speaker 1>they both do different things in their perspective ways, but

1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they are so effective man. So I think what's important

1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:51.840
<v Speaker 1>about that two of them is that you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>different sides to this. There's the you know, the trauma side,

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<v Speaker 1>which miss which both of them can speak to because

1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Fay has been working in it and miss Orresa actually

1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:06.679
<v Speaker 1>is living it um. And then there is the side

1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of the organization. How do you actually put one foot

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the other and lead people in this

1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:17.680
<v Speaker 1>work so that people can be effective and so that

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<v Speaker 1>a movement can really grow and so we can actually

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<v Speaker 1>help to save lives. That is what today is about.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening to them talking about leadership qualities, vetting individuals who

1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:33.439
<v Speaker 1>are working in the movement, A lot of people jump

1:20:33.520 --> 1:20:35.599
<v Speaker 1>up and say they're gonna work in the movement. Everybody

1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:38.800
<v Speaker 1>shows up. I'm an anti violence participating I can do this.

1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a leader, and you find out that they have

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<v Speaker 1>more mental health issues than the kids that are out

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<v Speaker 1>there shooting than the people who are out there being

1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:50.360
<v Speaker 1>problematic and so vetting the workers, I hope people don't

1:20:50.439 --> 1:20:53.679
<v Speaker 1>miss some of what they've been talking about. Having mothers

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<v Speaker 1>of the movement that can help to deal with the

1:20:56.520 --> 1:21:00.439
<v Speaker 1>internal conflict because you have much of that at that

1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:03.559
<v Speaker 1>comes up in all movements spaces, but in this anti

1:21:03.680 --> 1:21:07.120
<v Speaker 1>violence work, having so many people who are passionate and

1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>yet they come from the streets, you got a lot

1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of egos and a lot of bravado that even exists

1:21:13.400 --> 1:21:16.479
<v Speaker 1>within some of the women, um within the work, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that is necessary working together, being unified. First thing

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<v Speaker 1>on this shirt, unity, all of us coming together. We

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<v Speaker 1>have boycott Black Murder and until freedom. You also have

1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>life Camp. You have Man Up. You have uh not

1:21:31.439 --> 1:21:36.360
<v Speaker 1>not another child, you have Harlem mother Saved. You have

1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:44.479
<v Speaker 1>row as exactly. Uh guns up, Life down, Um, guns down,

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<v Speaker 1>Life up. Excuse me, guns down, Life Up. You have

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<v Speaker 1>so many organizations in the city that's doing this work.

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<v Speaker 1>But today we didn't go out as individual organizations. We

1:21:56.080 --> 1:21:59.519
<v Speaker 1>went out as one and all of those things. Working

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<v Speaker 1>with a mayor, working with your city officials, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>your budgets, the budgets, increasing the budgets, maintaining data right

1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:13.519
<v Speaker 1>to show your numbers in terms of how you're impact

1:22:13.600 --> 1:22:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and communities. Bringing people who are from the streets of

1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>the streets, you know, dealing with folks who are on

1:22:20.680 --> 1:22:23.519
<v Speaker 1>both sides of the gun. All of those things are

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<v Speaker 1>strategies for building real movements. And you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that both of these women have a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>they can share on what that looks like from being

1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>in this and on the outskirts. Yes they do. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just like, once again, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a very big opportunity, you know, and we always say

1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we need something different, and this is one of those

1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>moments where I think something different is actually happening. I

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<v Speaker 1>always say that culturally relevance and and us doing things

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<v Speaker 1>that fits within our culture, fits within our DNA, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, we've been we've been foot fit into

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<v Speaker 1>this cookie cutter system and the structure of way things

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to happen, you know, just regular police and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really work in our communities. It doesn't. It hasn't stopped violence,

1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is you know, it hasn't stopped crime. It hasn't really

1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>done anything. It's locked more people up, but it hasn't

1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>been a solution to crime. You know, it has a

1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>solution to non violence. So I think having people who

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<v Speaker 1>are invested in the community because they actually come from there,

1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:32.839
<v Speaker 1>because their mothers lived there, their sisters did, did their cousins,

1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:36.679
<v Speaker 1>their own children lived there, and then speaking energy into

1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the community, then bringing peaceful energy and non violent energy,

1:23:41.600 --> 1:23:45.920
<v Speaker 1>providing opportunities and resources, being able to employ people from

1:23:45.960 --> 1:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>their community, and saying, hey, you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>out here with no gun. We're gonna give you a check,

1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and we just need you to make sure that The

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<v Speaker 1>Parkers say, we just need you to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you you know you you intervene. Like if we started

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<v Speaker 1>centivizing that, you imagine if somebody got paid a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars every time they broke up a fight or

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<v Speaker 1>got in the middle of some conflict, people would love

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. People like, I ain't get in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of that. I ain't getting paid for that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not my job. So when we started centivizing those things

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<v Speaker 1>and people start realizing there's a level of honor that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with that, there's gonna be a celebration for someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's able to you know, diffuse in um in de

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<v Speaker 1>escalate situation and communities, we're gonna see the whole shift

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<v Speaker 1>in the culture. So you know, the problem is, but

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is that a lot of people want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but they don't realize that once it's a job,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actual training that goes into it, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to focus on. You also have to do

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<v Speaker 1>internal work, right, Like I talked about the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I say it all the time. It's like it's like anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like being a basketball player. There's a natural talent

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<v Speaker 1>that you have and then there's coach. When you're coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you have that natural talent and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be good, the it's just just refines the talent that

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<v Speaker 1>you have. They are mediators who just have a natural

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<v Speaker 1>gift to media, right, and they don't have they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been taught to certain skills. So when you give these

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<v Speaker 1>natural mediators the skill set and you tell them, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>these are these are the things, and most of the

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<v Speaker 1>times when you look at it and you when you

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<v Speaker 1>and you're a natural person at it, you already apod

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<v Speaker 1>most of those things. But you didn't. What happens is

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<v Speaker 1>you understand that you have to make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>fit into a forming, that you fit into a structure,

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a way to go about it. But you

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<v Speaker 1>also implement your natural ability into everything. So yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>training it comes, but that training is welcome when it's

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<v Speaker 1>insensivized that training has come is welcome when it's when

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<v Speaker 1>it's celebrated. So, you know, I think there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a different time, I see, because I, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many quote unquote forming gangsters that was

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<v Speaker 1>in there, people that know was in the streets that

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<v Speaker 1>have come home and they've actually really changed their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I know dudes that was notorious ten years

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<v Speaker 1>ago that I looked at that was locked up with

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<v Speaker 1>and they and they got these young kids and they

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<v Speaker 1>put in you know, they got him on the right path,

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<v Speaker 1>and they really invested in changing the mind states and

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<v Speaker 1>in changing the trajectory are these kids. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm really happy for that. Man, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to I'm looking forward to it as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>and a t also, um you know as a leader,

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<v Speaker 1>he he doesn't play around, so that's a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So with that being said, what is your

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it for today, because I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>have one. Well, my my only I don't get it

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<v Speaker 1>right was, you know, since we're gonna we're on this topic,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, for me, it was the media. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the media decided that rather than celebrate something, they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make negative and speak about our background,

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<v Speaker 1>to speak about a t or how is he vetted?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, do you know that he had this investigation?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? From for you? You only have

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<v Speaker 1>one gun? I said for me? For me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the one thing that I didn't get was

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<v Speaker 1>how the media wanted to spend something that was so

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<v Speaker 1>monumental and so positive into talking about negativity, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>immediately went to well, how was this person vetted? And

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<v Speaker 1>did you know about this investigation? And all of these things?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna have a past, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to focus on that, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say what is the timeline? And how do you notice?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, what is the timeline for the police? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>We we gotta hold we we've been giving billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to the police, and what is the timeline that

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<v Speaker 1>says that they're doing their job? Right? Because gun violence

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<v Speaker 1>goes up, it goes down, violence crime goes up, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes down. There's no timeline, right. There just has to

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<v Speaker 1>be multiple strategies implemented. And I don't know why when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to things that we're doing as a community

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<v Speaker 1>based especially black and brown people, they always has to

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<v Speaker 1>be this negative connotation that's around it. They always have

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<v Speaker 1>to be the debbut downer that always has to be well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know it works? How does this why

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<v Speaker 1>we always have to go through those things? Man? I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get you know how the media constantly spends

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<v Speaker 1>those things. And and that's why violence is perpetuated, right

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<v Speaker 1>because the picture of a mass killer is all over

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<v Speaker 1>the TV and it gives some level of infamy. It

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<v Speaker 1>gives some level of fame, and people see this and

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<v Speaker 1>these other people who just a sick who dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>those same issues want that picture on the screen. But

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<v Speaker 1>you don't give the picture of someone like a t

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<v Speaker 1>who just was giving the gun violence all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not put all over every news channel, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not we don't celebrate the person who is doing the

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<v Speaker 1>gun violence is not class it all over every channel,

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<v Speaker 1>not doing the gun violence, the person who's doing the work,

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<v Speaker 1>the work to the that's right, you're right, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>important because people want to emulate that. People want to

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<v Speaker 1>say they want to follow something that they see celebrated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, So I just don't get why we don't

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the positivity more while we always want to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the negative and try to defame and discredit and

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<v Speaker 1>devalue things that are so positive, especially when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to black and around communities. Yeah, no, I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything to say. You already said it.

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<v Speaker 1>They began to ask all kinds of questions today to

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<v Speaker 1>try to create negative narratives. They're gonna write a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of trash. We already know that, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>our responsibility. I said today while being interviewed by someone

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<v Speaker 1>that if a T fails, we all failed together. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line for us. We have to work with

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<v Speaker 1>thou brother and help him and provide him with the

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<v Speaker 1>resources and the support, and also allow him to leave

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<v Speaker 1>without all of us thinking we know better, and therefore

1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:13.519
<v Speaker 1>we could try to get in the way of what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that he feels, what he's led, what he's

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<v Speaker 1>motivated to do, and how he wants to leave. That's

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<v Speaker 1>our responsibility, because we already know, based upon the line

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<v Speaker 1>of questioning that you spoke of, that these reporters began

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<v Speaker 1>to ask today that they don't want to see him win,

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't They want to be able to use

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<v Speaker 1>the failure of the news are and the crisis management

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<v Speaker 1>system in in in total with a hundred plus million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars going to formally incarcerated individuals, they want to use

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<v Speaker 1>that to say it didn't work, it was a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of money. And let's go back to policing and government

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<v Speaker 1>and the processes of all the things that we know

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<v Speaker 1>does not in and of itself work to solve our

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<v Speaker 1>issues in our community. And so it's our responsibility to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. We've got to be innovative, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to put our strategy out there. And we also which

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<v Speaker 1>is why I'm glad that a t also doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>for uh the government so to speak, that he's not

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<v Speaker 1>an employee of the Mayor's office and it's not an

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<v Speaker 1>un agency that is inside UM the administration. Because guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>we also have the challenge and push the administration. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said today when asked by one reporter what resources

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<v Speaker 1>do you need, he said, we need the cooperation of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the agencies within the city. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>fact because sanitation, as miss or research just talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to know you cannot leave a community shot

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<v Speaker 1>up from some incident with blood splattered everywhere, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is very similar to bodies hanging from trees, from lynchings,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're leaving the trauma behind. That normalizes um the behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>and it normalizes the unfortunate sort of discomfort of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who live in communities. We have to accept the

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<v Speaker 1>example by keeping our communities clean, by focusing on taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of those people um who because again, as has

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<v Speaker 1>been said, most people are not shooting. Most people in

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<v Speaker 1>the communities, the overwhelming majority they want to live in safe,

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<v Speaker 1>clean communities. Unfortunately, we have some that enuckleheads and others

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<v Speaker 1>who are traumatized and challenge and whatever that is. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do the work. So that's that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, you know, New York City is pointing

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction on at least this one issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's up to all of us to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there and do the work, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ended us and you know, as much work and

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you know, each individual I mean, each

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<v Speaker 1>of these entities are doing, each organization is doing. We

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<v Speaker 1>as individuals have to take pride and take a declaration

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna do something in our community, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>black men, you know, knowing that black men are are

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<v Speaker 1>dying in this gun violence crisis that we're faced with,

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<v Speaker 1>We're dying at un alarming rates. And as a black

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<v Speaker 1>man who comes from marginalized communities, who has a level

1:33:36.840 --> 1:33:40.479
<v Speaker 1>of influence in those same communities, you know, I declare

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<v Speaker 1>that I will be front line and center dealing with

1:33:44.040 --> 1:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>these young men and and and trying to steer them

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<v Speaker 1>away from those streets. So with that said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna always be right. Miss Timmiga Mallory is not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always be wrong, but we were both always and I

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