WEBVTT - The Playbook: Truth from the Green Room

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from Austin, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>where today we're opening up the playbook. Today's topic, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your topics. We are going to go over several

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<v Speaker 1>topics today that you have thrown at us via the

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<v Speaker 1>Most Dramatic Pod Ever Instagram page. It's been a good week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a busy week. We had dropped off our

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<v Speaker 1>daughter at TCU week or so ago. My son had

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<v Speaker 1>finished his internship, so we just dropped him off, took

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<v Speaker 1>him up to Fort Worth, moved him into his house

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<v Speaker 1>to get him ready for wait for it, his senior

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<v Speaker 1>year of college. And yes, it kicked me in the gut.

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<v Speaker 1>It has hit me like a ton of bricks that

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I'm old enough to have a child

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<v Speaker 1>that's graduating college. That doesn't feel right. But just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dropping him at school for the last time, it'll be it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he may go to get his masters or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's different. And so this is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>last hurrah. And you know, the the advice I told

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<v Speaker 1>him within reason, soak it up, man, This is it,

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is the Swan song, be prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoy this and enjoy every moment. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>a it's weird when you drop him off for that

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<v Speaker 1>senior year of college. So anyone else in that boat,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling all the all the fields, as we used

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<v Speaker 1>to say a few years ago. But l Z Today's playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>The first topic that was sent into the most dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>pod Instagram was about pregame rituals and it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I was licking some up because you know, football season

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<v Speaker 1>is upon us. I know you're not like pregaming for football,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are some funny ones things that people do.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, the quarterback, he throws up before every game.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he make himself throw up?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I I think there are people, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people to do this before shows or

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<v Speaker 1>before a game. They just get I think I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Harry and Aba did this when we were

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<v Speaker 1>hosting stuff together that she got physically ill and then

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<v Speaker 1>she puked and everything was fine. She was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>go wow mouthwash. Harrison Smith, another football player, takes a

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<v Speaker 1>shot of hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would he do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I just maybe to fire him up and just to

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<v Speaker 1>how about this. Jason Kelsey, one of the Kelsey brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>listens to Christmas music, and why would he do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Just maybe it's calming, Maybe it just puts him in

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<v Speaker 1>a friendly He smells the pine trees. Yeah, thinks of

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<v Speaker 1>George Kittle. He reads a new letter from his dad

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<v Speaker 1>every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you I'm curious, do you have a pre

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<v Speaker 1>game something you did before you went on air, before

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<v Speaker 1>you spoke?

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I was also on a daily entertainment news show.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was every day, and it was so chaotic.

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<v Speaker 2>We were news is sort of ongoing, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing interviews. Ever, I would do three, four

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<v Speaker 2>or five interviews a day sometimes if not more so.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't have It was sort of always going.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I had a big moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think you have to get organized in your head.

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<v Speaker 2>I would definitely. One thing I did was we always

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<v Speaker 2>had note cards, and we'd have my producer would write

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<v Speaker 2>topics and questions on them, but I would need to

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<v Speaker 2>go through and do them again myself, sort of almost

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<v Speaker 2>like revising them for myself in my own words, with

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<v Speaker 2>my own notes and thoughts I couldn't just look down

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<v Speaker 2>at somebody else's notes and do my interviews from there.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe that was my ritual and I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>it was a way of like you know, they say

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<v Speaker 2>writing stuff down helps you remember it, So I would

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<v Speaker 2>have to do that for every interview. Centered what did

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<v Speaker 2>you do because yours was different? You're filming on and

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<v Speaker 2>did you have a different ritual for if you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to go do a rose ceremony versus a proposal

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<v Speaker 2>versus a live at.

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<v Speaker 1>A for sure, because I was the same as you.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was just doing you know, regular bachelor stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ros ceremonies, talking to the girls about the dates, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think twice about it. I would just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my head straight about what I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>say and what I wanted to accomplish in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I just went and did it, not as much pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and I also knew that it was being taped and

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<v Speaker 1>if honestly I screwed up, we could do it over.

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<v Speaker 1>When I hosted Miss America or hosted the like AFR

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<v Speaker 1>the Final Rows specials that were live, that was totally

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<v Speaker 1>different because there was so much choreography going into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to hit the ends, hit the outs, going

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<v Speaker 1>to commercial, make sure you know people were going in

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<v Speaker 1>the right right place, right time, asking the right questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to be very calm and miss America. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're walking out, there's fifteen thousand people live in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience and you're doing it in front of millions around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I would get very quiet. I often would

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<v Speaker 1>lay down in the green room, and you know, Gina,

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<v Speaker 1>my makeup artist, thought I was napping, but really I

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<v Speaker 1>would just close my eyes and just maybe it's meditation.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my form of meditation. But I was really

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<v Speaker 1>really quiet. I wasn't hype. I wasn't like, let's play

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<v Speaker 1>EM and M and let's get jacked and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a game where you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>all pumped up. I like to be really, really calm

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<v Speaker 1>before I go on. Why, just so I just had

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<v Speaker 1>control of my heart rate, I had control of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I could let I could let the show come to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was my you know, I always say my

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<v Speaker 1>advice to people is I like to let the moment

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<v Speaker 1>and the show come to me, so you can't come

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<v Speaker 1>out fired out of a cannon. If that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>it not what the moment dictates.

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<v Speaker 2>And I see that now as I think back to

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<v Speaker 2>watching you in episodes, because you definitely were more an

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<v Speaker 2>interviewer who leaned into pauses let people speak, versus kind

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<v Speaker 2>of going in there and attacking. I mean, you grilled people,

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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't attack with questions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not a screamer. I'm not a big like

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<v Speaker 1>talk real loud. And if a moment's exciting, and I

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<v Speaker 1>took this from my broadcasting, my sportscasting career, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it all started. Is if a moment's great, if a

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<v Speaker 1>play is great eight everybody knows it, they've just seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let that happen and try and let it breathe and

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<v Speaker 1>you get the gnat sound. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>people have this feel and this goes to everybody relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>business meetings. You feel you got to feel that void.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's silence, I gotta feel that silence. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>let the natural moment live a little bit and then speak.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the hardest things to do,

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<v Speaker 2>is to let the silence. It's so vulnerable. It's probably

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between you are not a yell at your

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<v Speaker 2>kid's dad, you're a disappointed dad voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound for sure. And it's interesting because when I played

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<v Speaker 1>sports my whole life, the axiom is you practice how

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<v Speaker 1>you play, practice at one hundred percent because that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play. I am absolutely not like that on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I did when I did Miss America or even AFR

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<v Speaker 1>which was after the final rose for the Bachelor batchs Wrette,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to use my jokes. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say them because I felt like if I said

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<v Speaker 1>them twice, it became disingenuous, it wasn't real, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I could think about things that I wanted to do later,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't do them, and I wouldn't use my

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<v Speaker 1>full voice. I wouldn't be animated. And when you are

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<v Speaker 1>a first time director working with me, it scares the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of producers and directors that work with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tell them, I'm like, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>my process. I'm just not a I'm not a go

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent in rehearsal because I wanted to feel

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<v Speaker 1>live and real the first time I do it, And

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<v Speaker 1>once they work with me, they're like, oh, I get

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<v Speaker 1>it now, But that's just me. Some people love to

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<v Speaker 1>choreograph and know exactly what they're going to do when

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<v Speaker 1>they do it exactly the same way. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>actors do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually read not long ago, you know that famous

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<v Speaker 2>coretroom scene in A Few Good Men with Jack Nicholson

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<v Speaker 2>and Tom Cruise, when Jack Nicholson.

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<v Speaker 1>Said handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Apparently he did that full out every single time

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<v Speaker 2>they rehearsed it. The director Rob Ryaner was like, Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to keep doing this at this level?

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Nielson said, yes, that's my process. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it full out every time. He probably sounded like me. Afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized I have a postgame ritual shots. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not, it's it's maybe unhealthy. I might need to

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<v Speaker 2>work on it, but I even do it after we

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<v Speaker 2>record every podcast. I second guess everything I did, and

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<v Speaker 2>I used to do this in interviews. I would never

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<v Speaker 2>walk away. I don't know it again. I might need

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<v Speaker 2>to go to therapy. It's not it's my type a personality.

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<v Speaker 2>I walk away from everything I do, never saying I

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<v Speaker 2>just killed that, I just did awesome. I think instantly

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<v Speaker 2>I could have done this differently. I should have done

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<v Speaker 2>that better. I missed that question. I forgot this I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I'd ask that differently. Should I have been quiet? There?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I? And I run through it on my head

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm nauseous an anxious about it for a couple hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and then honestly it albos if I have someone tell me, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>here's something great you did. I sort of need that

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<v Speaker 2>validation and then I can kind of talk myself off

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<v Speaker 2>a ledge thinking I was a total failure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you are successful and you're a type

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<v Speaker 1>a personality, you will often always pick apart your mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>and remember your mistakes. They live with you as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the ninety nine point nine percent of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you did great and you crushed.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you feel when you leave tell All

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<v Speaker 2>taping or a live episode taping?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends, you know, sometimes I really if things just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's some days when when it's just

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<v Speaker 1>everything's forced and it's hard and the interviews don't flow,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I always felt like that was on me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the quarterback, and I felt like that was

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<v Speaker 1>on me. But then there were times when you know

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a complete show and things were going

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<v Speaker 1>sideways and I kept it on the tracks, or I

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<v Speaker 1>brought something to the table that you know saved the show,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if it's live and a camera goes down or

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<v Speaker 1>something you know, technical happens and I save it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really proud of myself of just the experience of having

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<v Speaker 1>done it so many times that I know a lesser

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<v Speaker 1>host probably couldn't have pulled that off, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been really clunky and funky and sounded weird. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I always say, and you and I have had

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<v Speaker 1>these discussions, when you don't notice things like it's things

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<v Speaker 1>at home as the viewer, you would never notice. You

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, oh, that's the way it was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when we've done a great job. And so a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times it's unceremonious or whatever, but I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, right, it's not so clear as in sports that

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<v Speaker 2>you won that game. You don't get a clear one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. And honestly, I mean, look, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>my sports, but even there, I'm sure if somebody wins

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<v Speaker 2>a game, they still look back, of course, and think

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<v Speaker 2>of things they wish they'd done differently, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>made it look easy, and you know whatever. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting you're thinking about it. We probably all need

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<v Speaker 2>to accept and revel more in things going well and

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<v Speaker 2>not always strive for things to go perfect. In school,

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<v Speaker 2>we are literally taught things should be perfect. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>get a one hundred percent on that test? But as

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<v Speaker 2>you get older, nothing is ever I mean any field.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do a presentation at your business, Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>could have done a few things about it better, but

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<v Speaker 2>it still went really well. I'm going to work on

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<v Speaker 2>this about myself. It doesn't have to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>You're no I gotta call it. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>break this down to you, and it's going to be shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not perfect. Nobody is. There is no perfection.

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<v Speaker 2>I's just got wide.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to speak to someone.

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