Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: where today we're opening up the playbook. Today's topic, well,
Speaker 1: it's your topics. We are going to go over several
Speaker 1: topics today that you have thrown at us via the
Speaker 1: Most Dramatic Pod Ever Instagram page. It's been a good week.
Speaker 1: It's been a busy week. We had dropped off our
Speaker 1: daughter at TCU week or so ago. My son had
Speaker 1: finished his internship, so we just dropped him off, took
Speaker 1: him up to Fort Worth, moved him into his house
Speaker 1: to get him ready for wait for it, his senior
Speaker 1: year of college. And yes, it kicked me in the gut.
Speaker 1: It has hit me like a ton of bricks that
Speaker 1: I have a I'm old enough to have a child
Speaker 1: that's graduating college. That doesn't feel right. But just you know,
Speaker 1: dropping him at school for the last time, it'll be it.
Speaker 1: I mean he may go to get his masters or whatever,
Speaker 1: but that's different. And so this is kind of the
Speaker 1: last hurrah. And you know, the the advice I told
Speaker 1: him within reason, soak it up, man, This is it,
Speaker 1: This is this is the Swan song, be prepared to
Speaker 1: just enjoy this and enjoy every moment. But it was
Speaker 1: a it's weird when you drop him off for that
Speaker 1: senior year of college. So anyone else in that boat,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling all the all the fields, as we used
Speaker 1: to say a few years ago. But l Z Today's playbook.
Speaker 1: The first topic that was sent into the most dramatic
Speaker 1: pod Instagram was about pregame rituals and it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I was licking some up because you know, football season
Speaker 1: is upon us. I know you're not like pregaming for football,
Speaker 1: but these are some funny ones things that people do.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the quarterback, he throws up before every game.
Speaker 2: Does he make himself throw up?
Speaker 1: No? I I think there are people, and I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people to do this before shows or
Speaker 1: before a game. They just get I think I want
Speaker 1: to say, Harry and Aba did this when we were
Speaker 1: hosting stuff together that she got physically ill and then
Speaker 1: she puked and everything was fine. She was ready to
Speaker 1: go wow mouthwash. Harrison Smith, another football player, takes a
Speaker 1: shot of hot sauce.
Speaker 2: Why would he do that?
Speaker 1: I just maybe to fire him up and just to
Speaker 1: how about this. Jason Kelsey, one of the Kelsey brothers,
Speaker 1: listens to Christmas music, and why would he do that?
Speaker 1: Just maybe it's calming, Maybe it just puts him in
Speaker 1: a friendly He smells the pine trees. Yeah, thinks of
Speaker 1: George Kittle. He reads a new letter from his dad
Speaker 1: every time.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's nice.
Speaker 1: So do you I'm curious, do you have a pre
Speaker 1: game something you did before you went on air, before
Speaker 1: you spoke?
Speaker 2: No, But I was also on a daily entertainment news show.
Speaker 2: I mean it was every day, and it was so chaotic.
Speaker 2: We were news is sort of ongoing, you know, and
Speaker 2: I was doing interviews. Ever, I would do three, four
Speaker 2: or five interviews a day sometimes if not more so.
Speaker 2: I just didn't have It was sort of always going.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I had a big moment.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I do think you have to get organized in your head.
Speaker 2: I would definitely. One thing I did was we always
Speaker 2: had note cards, and we'd have my producer would write
Speaker 2: topics and questions on them, but I would need to
Speaker 2: go through and do them again myself, sort of almost
Speaker 2: like revising them for myself in my own words, with
Speaker 2: my own notes and thoughts I couldn't just look down
Speaker 2: at somebody else's notes and do my interviews from there.
Speaker 2: So maybe that was my ritual and I kind of
Speaker 2: it was a way of like you know, they say
Speaker 2: writing stuff down helps you remember it, So I would
Speaker 2: have to do that for every interview. Centered what did
Speaker 2: you do because yours was different? You're filming on and
Speaker 2: did you have a different ritual for if you were
Speaker 2: going to go do a rose ceremony versus a proposal
Speaker 2: versus a live at.
Speaker 1: A for sure, because I was the same as you.
Speaker 1: If I was just doing you know, regular bachelor stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, ros ceremonies, talking to the girls about the dates, whatever,
Speaker 1: I didn't think twice about it. I would just you know,
Speaker 1: I got my head straight about what I needed to
Speaker 1: say and what I wanted to accomplish in that moment.
Speaker 1: I just went and did it, not as much pressure,
Speaker 1: and I also knew that it was being taped and
Speaker 1: if honestly I screwed up, we could do it over.
Speaker 1: When I hosted Miss America or hosted the like AFR
Speaker 1: the Final Rows specials that were live, that was totally
Speaker 1: different because there was so much choreography going into it.
Speaker 1: You had to hit the ends, hit the outs, going
Speaker 1: to commercial, make sure you know people were going in
Speaker 1: the right right place, right time, asking the right questions.
Speaker 1: I like to be very calm and miss America. When
Speaker 1: you're walking out, there's fifteen thousand people live in the
Speaker 1: audience and you're doing it in front of millions around
Speaker 1: the world. I would get very quiet. I often would
Speaker 1: lay down in the green room, and you know, Gina,
Speaker 1: my makeup artist, thought I was napping, but really I
Speaker 1: would just close my eyes and just maybe it's meditation.
Speaker 1: That was my form of meditation. But I was really
Speaker 1: really quiet. I wasn't hype. I wasn't like, let's play
Speaker 1: EM and M and let's get jacked and you know,
Speaker 1: like a like a game where you want to get
Speaker 1: all pumped up. I like to be really, really calm
Speaker 1: before I go on. Why, just so I just had
Speaker 1: control of my heart rate, I had control of my head.
Speaker 1: I could let I could let the show come to me.
Speaker 1: And that was my you know, I always say my
Speaker 1: advice to people is I like to let the moment
Speaker 1: and the show come to me, so you can't come
Speaker 1: out fired out of a cannon. If that's not what
Speaker 1: it not what the moment dictates.
Speaker 2: And I see that now as I think back to
Speaker 2: watching you in episodes, because you definitely were more an
Speaker 2: interviewer who leaned into pauses let people speak, versus kind
Speaker 2: of going in there and attacking. I mean, you grilled people,
Speaker 2: but you didn't attack with questions.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a screamer. I'm not a big like
Speaker 1: talk real loud. And if a moment's exciting, and I
Speaker 1: took this from my broadcasting, my sportscasting career, that's where
Speaker 1: it all started. Is if a moment's great, if a
Speaker 1: play is great eight everybody knows it, they've just seen it.
Speaker 1: Let that happen and try and let it breathe and
Speaker 1: you get the gnat sound. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: people have this feel and this goes to everybody relationships,
Speaker 1: business meetings. You feel you got to feel that void.
Speaker 1: If there's silence, I gotta feel that silence. You don't
Speaker 1: let the natural moment live a little bit and then speak.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the hardest things to do,
Speaker 2: is to let the silence. It's so vulnerable. It's probably
Speaker 2: the difference between you are not a yell at your
Speaker 2: kid's dad, you're a disappointed dad voice.
Speaker 1: Sound for sure. And it's interesting because when I played
Speaker 1: sports my whole life, the axiom is you practice how
Speaker 1: you play, practice at one hundred percent because that's how
Speaker 1: you're gonna play. I am absolutely not like that on stage.
Speaker 1: I did when I did Miss America or even AFR
Speaker 1: which was after the final rose for the Bachelor batchs Wrette,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to use my jokes. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to say them because I felt like if I said
Speaker 1: them twice, it became disingenuous, it wasn't real, And so
Speaker 1: I could think about things that I wanted to do later,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't do them, and I wouldn't use my
Speaker 1: full voice. I wouldn't be animated. And when you are
Speaker 1: a first time director working with me, it scares the
Speaker 1: hell out of producers and directors that work with me,
Speaker 1: and I tell them, I'm like, this is this is
Speaker 1: my process. I'm just not a I'm not a go
Speaker 1: one hundred percent in rehearsal because I wanted to feel
Speaker 1: live and real the first time I do it, And
Speaker 1: once they work with me, they're like, oh, I get
Speaker 1: it now, But that's just me. Some people love to
Speaker 1: choreograph and know exactly what they're going to do when
Speaker 1: they do it exactly the same way. A lot of
Speaker 1: actors do that.
Speaker 2: I actually read not long ago, you know that famous
Speaker 2: coretroom scene in A Few Good Men with Jack Nicholson
Speaker 2: and Tom Cruise, when Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1: Said handle the truth.
Speaker 2: Yes, Apparently he did that full out every single time
Speaker 2: they rehearsed it. The director Rob Ryaner was like, Jack,
Speaker 2: do you want to keep doing this at this level?
Speaker 2: Jack Nielson said, yes, that's my process. I'm going to
Speaker 2: do it full out every time. He probably sounded like me. Afterwards.
Speaker 2: I just realized I have a postgame ritual shots. No,
Speaker 2: it's not, it's it's maybe unhealthy. I might need to
Speaker 2: work on it, but I even do it after we
Speaker 2: record every podcast. I second guess everything I did, and
Speaker 2: I used to do this in interviews. I would never
Speaker 2: walk away. I don't know it again. I might need
Speaker 2: to go to therapy. It's not it's my type a personality.
Speaker 2: I walk away from everything I do, never saying I
Speaker 2: just killed that, I just did awesome. I think instantly
Speaker 2: I could have done this differently. I should have done
Speaker 2: that better. I missed that question. I forgot this I
Speaker 2: wish I'd ask that differently. Should I have been quiet? There?
Speaker 2: Should I? And I run through it on my head
Speaker 2: and I'm nauseous an anxious about it for a couple hours,
Speaker 2: and then honestly it albos if I have someone tell me, oh,
Speaker 2: here's something great you did. I sort of need that
Speaker 2: validation and then I can kind of talk myself off
Speaker 2: a ledge thinking I was a total failure.
Speaker 1: I think if you are successful and you're a type
Speaker 1: a personality, you will often always pick apart your mistakes
Speaker 1: and remember your mistakes. They live with you as opposed
Speaker 1: to the ninety nine point nine percent of the things
Speaker 1: that you did great and you crushed.
Speaker 2: So how did you feel when you leave tell All
Speaker 2: taping or a live episode taping?
Speaker 1: It depends, you know, sometimes I really if things just
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's some days when when it's just
Speaker 1: everything's forced and it's hard and the interviews don't flow,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I always felt like that was on me.
Speaker 1: I was the quarterback, and I felt like that was
Speaker 1: on me. But then there were times when you know
Speaker 1: it could be a complete show and things were going
Speaker 1: sideways and I kept it on the tracks, or I
Speaker 1: brought something to the table that you know saved the show,
Speaker 1: especially if it's live and a camera goes down or
Speaker 1: something you know, technical happens and I save it. I'm
Speaker 1: really proud of myself of just the experience of having
Speaker 1: done it so many times that I know a lesser
Speaker 1: host probably couldn't have pulled that off, and it would
Speaker 1: have been really clunky and funky and sounded weird. And
Speaker 1: when I always say, and you and I have had
Speaker 1: these discussions, when you don't notice things like it's things
Speaker 1: at home as the viewer, you would never notice. You
Speaker 1: just thought, oh, that's the way it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: That's when we've done a great job. And so a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's unceremonious or whatever, but I knew.
Speaker 2: Like, right, it's not so clear as in sports that
Speaker 2: you won that game. You don't get a clear one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. And honestly, I mean, look, I don't know
Speaker 2: my sports, but even there, I'm sure if somebody wins
Speaker 2: a game, they still look back, of course, and think
Speaker 2: of things they wish they'd done differently, and then they
Speaker 2: made it look easy, and you know whatever. But as
Speaker 2: I'm sitting you're thinking about it. We probably all need
Speaker 2: to accept and revel more in things going well and
Speaker 2: not always strive for things to go perfect. In school,
Speaker 2: we are literally taught things should be perfect. Did you
Speaker 2: get a one hundred percent on that test? But as
Speaker 2: you get older, nothing is ever I mean any field.
Speaker 2: Do you do a presentation at your business, Maybe you
Speaker 2: could have done a few things about it better, but
Speaker 2: it still went really well. I'm going to work on
Speaker 2: this about myself. It doesn't have to be perfect.
Speaker 1: You're no I gotta call it. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: break this down to you, and it's going to be shocking.
Speaker 1: You're not perfect. Nobody is. There is no perfection.
Speaker 2: I's just got wide.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I need to speak to someone.
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