1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing? 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is having a great day, a great morning, 3 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: a great afternoon, wherever you may be. And today we're 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: gonna talk some football. I just recorded a bunch of 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: stuff with Colin, so I will try to talk about 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: things we didn't touch on. I do want to reiterate 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: a theory I have when it comes to the Cleveland Browns, 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam and Shador Sanders, the prank call. I have 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a couple thoughts on that Belichick interview, which if you 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen Belichick's interview on CBS Good Morning on Sunday, 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: it's quite the ride with his new lady friend Jordan, 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: and then a couple other football things here and there 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: from the draft. So we will have con ten all 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: week reacting to the draft stories as it all kind 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: of marinates, and we'll just keep talking about it. Well, 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: probably have a big mail bag on Tuesday at John 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get your 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: questions answered here on the show. 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Okay, 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, and I didn't do anything 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Partly I just needed a breather. You know, 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: mel Kiper was was fuman. I'm pro mel Kiper, but 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: I do think he was clearly I don't know why 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: he was so angry, and uh, you know Lewis Riddick 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: and Rhys Davis and they were going back and forth 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: and it was like, God, you got to be exhausted. 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: I was exhausted from the story. I need to take 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: twenty four hours off, so me and Colin touched on it. 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: I've had some time to think about it, and I'm 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: gonna rehash the theory that I just told Coward. So 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: if you already heard it, sorry, and if you haven't, 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: this is my theory because I don't think it's that complicated, 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: because it doesn't make much sense to take multiple quarterbacks 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: in a draft, especially in the third and the fifth round. 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: That's that's unheard of. You know, you go back to 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: RG three and Cousins. It was because Kyle Shanahan and 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan did not want RG three. Kyle Shanahan was 65 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: trying to convince them to trade back and take Cousins early. 66 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: He's talked about this. This was a situation where I 67 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: think I just read something that the Cleveland Browns had 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: flown out and it never got out. And met with 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam, with the coach, with the GM with Dylan Gabriel, 70 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: they liked him a lot. Now I don't even necessarily 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: agree with their assessment. I think drafting Dylan Gable in 72 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: the third round is a little rich for my taste. Right. 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: It's like paying a million dollars for seven hundred thousand 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: dollars home now value in the eye of the beholder 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: on draft day. We can argue that till we're blue 76 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: in the face. I don't think he was going in 77 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: the third round. I actually feel pretty confident now you 78 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: can always make the argument, how do you know, I've 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: been doing this long enough? Pretty good idea there was 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: a reason the Will Howard's, the Riley Leonards, the Quinn 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: you weres like you didn't need to take those guys 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: in the third or fourth round. You knew they were 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna be there in the sixth or seventh. I do 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: think Dylan Gabriel at the latest, I mean, I think 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: he could have got him in the fifth. But whatever. 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: My thought is this as Shador standards starts to drop. 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: When you work with someone long enough. It's like when 88 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: you're growing up and you live with your mom, your dad, 89 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: your brothers. You really know them well right, you know 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: what sets them off, you know what buttons to push 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: to piss them off. You know when it's like, Okay, 92 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: I better I gotta be especially if you have an 93 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: older brother or an older sister, like, Okay, I'm gonna 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna avoid this issue. I know my dad really 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: values this, even though my mom doesn't care. And so 96 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: you just kind of work the room a little bit, right. Definitely, 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: if you've been in a company and you've worked with someone, 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: you've worked for someone, you get a pretty good feel 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: for their demands, what they're into, what if they are 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: an overbearing boss, what they will force you to do, 101 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: and you kind of know how to play them a 102 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't mean like nefariously, but just like 103 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: to settle everything down. Once the door Sanders starts dropping, 104 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry and Stefanski aren't them. They know that Jimmy 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: HASLM is gonna be interested. Why because Jimmy Haslam has 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: forced several quarterbacks on them that they did not want, 107 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: and they clearly in this draft want to do and Gabriel. 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: So once he starts plummeting, they go maybe texting to 109 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: each other, maybe talking their office, close the door, like 110 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe we should draft this guy a little bit higher 111 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: than ideally we want to. So we just get a 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: quarterback in our draft class and then Shadoor will go 113 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: some picks later, and we don't have to force this 114 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: upon us because Shador Sanders. When I think Kevin Stefanski got, 115 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't think an idea will fit. I actually think 116 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Shador's playing style is a lot like Deshaun Watson. Now, 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: I think Deshaun was a better college player and a 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: better prospect than Shadoor, but I think there are some 119 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: similarities well in Kevin Stefanski's offense. And this is the 120 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan thing. They don't really into freelancing, right that 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: they're in to do exactly what I tell you, we 122 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: can argue to we're blow in the face. That's how 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: they want to play. It's why they like guys like 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Brock Purdy and Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel. 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: He will get rid of the ball quick and go 126 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: exactly where you want to go with him. Now, can't 127 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: he see that guy's kind of short. We'll find out, 128 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: but I think they did that hopefully like Okay, this 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: will shut the owner up. The problem is is that 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: Shador kept dropping, so it's like, wait, didn't know one 131 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: picked him in the fourth and then he's still there 132 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: in the fifth. Now it gets to a spot where 133 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: the owner tells you we're taken them. And when you 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: watch the reaction of those guys in the draft room, 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: and I know they push back against this bullshit that 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: you could see in Stefanski's eyes he wanted no part 137 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 1: of that. Andrew Barry did not want to make that pick. 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: And then when they discussed it in the press conference, 139 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: it was clear like this was not their doing. And 140 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: we have a long enough history to now know this 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: owner forces them to do things they don't want to do. 142 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: I think Andrew Berry and I think Kevin Stefanski are 143 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: good at their job. Now I don't have to agree 144 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: with their quarterback evaluation because I think Shador Sanders is 145 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: a better NFL prospect than Dylan Gabriel. They clearly did not. 146 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: And it makes no sense to take a guy in 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: the third and then another in the fifth. Because Michael 148 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Lombardi used to talk about this for a long time, 149 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: the NFL practices are math equations. You don't get an 150 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: unlimited amount of places. This is basketball where it's like, 151 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: well just run it again. Eventually, you can only run 152 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: so many plays with your players, especially now because of 153 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the rules. So in a practice, and I'm just gonna 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: pick some up even numbers to make things even. Let's 155 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: say during a team period, we will have thirty reps 156 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: of ones versus ones, twos, verse twos, threes verse threes. 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Well we're not. We don't spread those equally, right. I 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: give more reps to my better players, especially once the 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: pads come on in training camp. So when I got 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: pads on my ones, and I've been to a lot 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: of practice, and every coach does it a little bit differently, 162 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: get seventy percent of the reps. Then the twos come 163 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: in and get the next twenty percent of the reps, 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: and then the threes get let's say ten to five 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: percent of the reps. Now it might change on a 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: given day, but it is disproportionately weighted to starters, backups, 167 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: and threes. And the thing is like at tight end, 168 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: if I'm George Kittle, I'm like, hey, coach, I need 169 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: a blow. I'm exhausted. It's like, hey, take this. Take 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: the next ten plays off. So the ones, the twos, 171 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: in the threes, he just sits on the sideline and 172 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: the other tight ends rotate with the ones, rotate with 173 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: the twos, rotates with the threes. I can do that 174 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: at wide receiver. I can do that at running back. 175 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I can do that at all the other skill positions. Right, 176 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: I cannot do that at quarterback. Quarterbacks aren't coming in 177 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: and out. They stay with the unit. Now with the threes, 178 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: you can rotate the threes, or you can rotate a 179 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: guy with the twos. I guess. But like if you 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: are the twos quarterback, you get those reps. It's why 181 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: you see when there's a competition for the backup job. 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: They usually rotate them through training camp, but over the time, 183 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: like one guy ends up getting more reps what you 184 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: would have given going into training camp. Obviously, Joe Flacco 185 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: is gonna get the ones and just based on his experience, 186 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: and I don't think this guy's any good. He's gonna 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: start with the twos. That's gonna be Kenny Pickett. So 188 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have two guys rotating with the threes. You're 189 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: just not gonna get at that many plays. So it 190 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I've seen a lot of people 191 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: try to justify It's like just keep throwing darts at 192 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: the dartboard, and I agree with most positions. It is 193 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: just very difficult to take multiple quarterbacks in a draft 194 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and get a feel for either one throughout practices, So 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: you can't convince me. And other people have written about 196 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: this in The Athletic that this wasn't the owner, and 197 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: anytime the owner, I'm all for the owner having opinions. 198 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: It's his team, but when he's forcing you to take players, 199 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 1: and this feels like it's like this is out of 200 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Shador's control. But I just think it's a weird spot 201 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: and the other thing, and I mentioned this to Colin 202 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: is coaches in front office people sometimes disagree, right I 203 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: like a player that you don't like, or vice versa, 204 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes we just agree to disagree and we take 205 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: the player. And if the coach doesn't like the player 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: the front off drafted, he can manipulate how many reps 207 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: that guy gets at practice, how much energy and effort 208 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: I put into them, right, especially when you're talking mid 209 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: to late round picks. And if the coaching staff, if 210 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: the head coach, especially if the front office as well, 211 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: is not on board, they will not care because part 212 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: of and this is the cool part about like being 213 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe. Listen, I thought he's a pretty big wildcard, 214 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: pretty risky pick. But here's what I know. John Schneider 215 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald all in on him. Think about Mike 216 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: was around Lamar for years. Think about what made John 217 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: Schneider a legend. He pounded the table for Russell Wilson, 218 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: So those guys believe in mobile quarterbacks. You know, Russell 219 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: was a better thrower than Lamar right away, just in 220 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: terms of accuracy. Lamar obviously became a much better player 221 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: over the course the last four or five years. But 222 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: when people support you, and this is no different than 223 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: any industry, when you work at a place where the 224 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: guy that high hired you or the guy that runs 225 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: the company believes in you want you there, it's much 226 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: easier to succeed as a player, just like as any 227 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: normal employee. You can start sensing like, do these guys 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: even want me here? How often have we heard over 229 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: the years, older veteran guys, just players throughout the history 230 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: of the league, to be like, yeah, I was out 231 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: of place. The coach in the gym didn't like me, 232 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: but they just didn't want me there, And I knew 233 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: it was destined to fail early on. Happens all the time, 234 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: will continue to happen. It's happened historically in the league. 235 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: So I think this is a very clunky, weird, bizarre spot. 236 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: And while in theory I get like, I'll just throw 237 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: darts at a dartboard accumulate as many players as you can. Well, yeah, 238 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: it's easy to rotate slot corners in and out. It's 239 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: easy like, oh, this slot receiver gets these reps. It's 240 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: not really how quarterback works. You kind of got to 241 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: get a cohesion with the unit you're repping with just 242 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: very bizarre situation there, And obviously the prank call situation 243 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: is something that's gone pretty viral. Embarrassing. Look for the 244 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: kid who you know, stuck his tail between his legs 245 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: with his apology posts. Something calls them bad. Look for 246 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: jeff Olbrick. I also think some of the reaction, like 247 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: Jeff Olbrick should be suspended. It's like I don't even 248 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: necessarily believe the Atlanta Falcons. Of course this was the 249 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, Like, of course this stink is on Atlanta. 250 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: What just a poorly run operation, but like it was 251 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: his child. And I've been a college kidd and done 252 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: dumb things. My senior year in college the fall of 253 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, I actually I don't really talk 254 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: about this ever, because I was a business intern for 255 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. So from basically middle to late 256 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: August till the middle of December, I moved to Kansas City. 257 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: My dad had like a friend that he went to 258 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: college with who knew a guy whose kid had rented 259 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: us a room for like three hundred bucks, lived in Overland, 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Kansas and works for the Chiefs. And I worked in sales, 261 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: So I tried to help the guy, like, you know, 262 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: sell things in the stadium in terms of signage, just 263 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: tried to do a bunch of stuff in sales. It's 264 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: not what I wanted to do, but it was the 265 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: only way I get into the NFL. I had mailed 266 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: at the time. It was hard to get emails in 267 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: seven so I had mailed like every team in the 268 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: NFL and a lot of college teams asking if they 269 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: had any sort of internship in football, and I still 270 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: have them in my closet. A bunch of people emailed 271 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: you or mailed me back, the Giants, the Packers, the Bears, 272 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: these like generic like thanks for your interest, we got nothing, 273 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: and the chiefs for the one team that were like, yeah, 274 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: you can come work for us. I was like, I'm 275 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: gonna work in the NFL. It was an unpaid job 276 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,239 Speaker 1: in sales in a cubicle with like fifty other interns. 277 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: But I also utilized that time to meet people on HERM. 278 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Edward's staff, and early on in the season before they 279 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: really started to suck, I would go up a couple 280 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: nights during the week and try to help him out 281 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: with like miscellaneous bullshit. Basically his like head of I 282 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: guess he would have been like the head of football 283 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: administration or something. He interviewed me to her, he was cool. 284 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: He kind of got my really the ball rolling of 285 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: what I aspired to do after that. And they used 286 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: to have these booklets and basically it had every number 287 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: of every human in the NFL. Because cell phones, while 288 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,239 Speaker 1: they existed in oh seven, most people in any industry 289 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: in your office had a hard line, and if I 290 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: wanted to get a hold of the CEO of Microsoft 291 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: or Jerry Jones, he had a number directly to his 292 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: office that was separate of a cell phone. And this 293 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: booklet had every number in the league, from gms to 294 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: coaches to owners, obviously all the famous speed not players 295 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: or anything, but everyone that had an office in the league. Well, 296 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: when I went back to Cal Pauli, because I still 297 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: had spring and I guess winter and spring were on 298 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: the quarter system. I went back and live with my buddies, 299 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: still in a couple couple quarters of just I basically 300 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: had like one class remaining. I was partying, hanging, doing nothing, 301 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: doing whatever I wanted to do. And I think one 302 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: late night I bust out the book. We probably had 303 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: a few too many and I was like, uh, you 304 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: guys want to call Belichick again? This is I forget that. 305 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: I actually had forgotten about this until my buddy Trent 306 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: had told me a couple of years ago about this situation. 307 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure two guys, and again, this could 308 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: have been Pacific standard time midnight on like a Saturday, 309 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: so people wouldn't even have been in the office. We 310 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: definitely called Belichick and Jerry Jones and you would get like, 311 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: especially you know whatever the number was, Extension two one 312 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: nine or Extension seventeen, and'd be like this Jerry Jones 313 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: office or this Belichick. It was incredible. We're all laughing 314 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: on stuff. So I think, listen, kids do dumb shit. Now. 315 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I didn't get anyone on the horn. I don't even 316 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: think we left. We hung up. You know when it 317 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: would be like, babe, we just hang up. But everyone 318 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: the overreaction is it stupid? Is it a kid being 319 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: a fucking asshole? Yes? From what I've saw that it. 320 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: Chador was not the only guy that this. This happened 321 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: to countless players. So was it all these guys somehow 322 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: they got hacked. I have never heard of someone's kid 323 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: getting access to numbers and then wearing these guys out. 324 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: But I do understand a situation where if you give 325 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: a twenty one year old who's fifteen course lights at 326 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: the time, they were like natty lights deep, it's like, hey, 327 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: I got Belichick's number. You know you might call it 328 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: and say something stupid. The NBA eighty two game grind 329 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: is done, and now the real fun begins. The NBA 330 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: Playoffs are here and it's time for the high stakes drama, 331 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: clutch moments, and jaw dropping plays can't wait. 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First I 363 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: saw it as Portnoy head record and said, this is 364 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: the most bizarre, awkward interview I've ever seen, and then 365 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: it goes completely viral of him and his young girlfriend 366 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: who basically is acting as his PR manager, who's chiming in. 367 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: It's really really uncomfortable and part of being a college 368 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: head coach, which is a lot different than an NFL 369 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: head coach. Even with the nil and buying players, there 370 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: is still an element of selling yourself. In the NFL, 371 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't need to sell shit. I sell by what 372 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: I pay you and do you want to win or loose? 373 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: And that is historically how it's operated in college. It's changed, 374 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: but like the reason Saban in Kirby and Ohio State 375 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: and Michigan always got the best players all my life, 376 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: just because you couldn't pay guys above the table, you 377 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: can still pay guys below the table. You still have 378 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: to recruit their parents the players. Stuff still matters, and 379 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: your personality, Like look at the top head coaches in 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: college football have big personalities, and it matters. Sitting in 381 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: living rooms and I'm watching Belichick thinking like this is 382 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: a little bizarre and I don't know how good North 383 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: Carolina is going to be this year. No clue know 384 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: nothing about their roster beside they just signed this kid 385 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: from South Alabama who was like a mobile dual threat quarterback, 386 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: which feels a little bit weird, but we'll see how 387 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: that operates in Belichick's offense, which I'm not even quite 388 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: sure what it is, but we'll find out what it 389 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: is pretty quickly. I just watched that video and I 390 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: thought to myself, of, like, Belichick's never working in the 391 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: NFL again. I don't think anyone's hiring this guy. And 392 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: I think this situation with his girlfriend, like most owners 393 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL have probably seven girlfriends. No one judges you. 394 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft's wife died and he had like a thirty 395 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: year old on his arm the next day. So it's like, 396 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: it's not like the NFL is some moral police when 397 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: it comes to the age gap of who you're allowed 398 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: to date. Nobody cares. But it's one thing when you 399 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: hear about it, and it's another thing to see it 400 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: in that environment. And Belichick gave this interview like he 401 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: had just lost to the Kansasity Chiefs and they're onto Cincinnati, 402 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't know if you can really 403 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: act like that in these settings, in the position you're 404 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: now in with this girl on the side, who I 405 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: don't blame her, she's you know, she can say whatever 406 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: she wants. Would she be dating this seventy three year 407 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: old if he was a plumber? Of course not. It 408 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: helps when you go, this guy's worth probably one hundred 409 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: plus million dollars. Let's call a spade a spade. And look, 410 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. It's her prerogative. She can 411 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: bang whoever she wants to. But when you see that 412 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: version on CBS, you like, this is rough man, This 413 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: is rough for your current job. And I'm a Belichick fan. 414 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: I think he's the best coach I've ever seen. And 415 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that people crush him for, none 416 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: of it matters. In the pros, it's a very black 417 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: and white league. You win or you lose. You win 418 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: or do you lose? Nothing else really matters. Belichick had 419 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: a guy who murdered someone down the road from his house. 420 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, well kind of, We'll move on and 421 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: we'll win three more Super Bowls. That's the NFL for you. 422 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: In a nutshell, The Baltimore Ravens. I've talked about this 423 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: over and over, like as polarizing ador. He honestly overshadowed 424 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: some of these red flag guys that were drafted in 425 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: the first and second round. Major red flag guys know 426 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: if the guy gets ten sacks, no one will give 427 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: a shit beside a couple of big j's on Twitter 428 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: that no one will listen to. And like the reason 429 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens think about this, the Ravens drafted a kicker 430 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: in the sixth round. They have no clue if Tucker 431 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: is Deshaun Watson two point zero. And let's face it, 432 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: if Justin Tucker had got covery rears, kids a handy 433 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: in a massage star fourth therapist a couple times, no 434 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: one in the NFL would care. If you don't think 435 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: most people in the NFL haven't experienced something like that, 436 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: People in society haven't. Like a lot of you would 437 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: be throwing stone out a glass house. Listen, I'm not 438 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna get up here in my ie horse snack like 439 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: you know you haven't been to a massage therapist over 440 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: the years. The reason Deshaun Watson was so I would 441 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: say bizarre in such a toxic situation is like, bro, 442 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: were you addicted to this? Was this an addiction for you? 443 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: That's weird, especially when you're like a good looking quarterback 444 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: who's really rich. Shouldn't need a bunch of handies at 445 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: the local massage therapist, right, And the Tucker thing is 446 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: feels like it's in a similar vein. But the reason 447 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: they drafted a kicker, and more than likely Justin Tucker 448 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: won't be on their team this year is because he 449 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: can't kick anymore. His career is winding down. He's not good. 450 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: If he was still wildly considered one of the greatest 451 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: kickers of all time in the prime of his career, 452 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: they would overlook it. It's why Belichick all those years 453 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: it was like doing some weird shit. When he comes 454 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: out of that Nantucket house with his shirt off, probably 455 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: not sleeping with a fifty year old, don't blame him. 456 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: Their like he's got options, right, Everyone's like, wow, he's 457 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Six rings. You start struggling people like, when 458 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: you're a sales guy and you're the number one sales 459 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: guy in your company, you can do whatever you want. 460 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: They're probably not gonna get rid of you. Mister Quota's 461 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: four quarters in a row see o that goes. And 462 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: I just think sometimes people get on their high horse 463 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: about stuff and football. It's like, if they think you 464 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: can play, you're gonna be on the squad. If they 465 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: don't think you can play, you won't be well, they'll 466 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: overlook you. And uh. The argument that we've had for 467 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: a long time, which I do think is like kind 468 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: of jump the shark about the conferences and the where 469 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: the best players are. And we argued forever about the 470 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: uh who should be in the playoffs? And I understand, 471 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: just because you have a lot of guys drafted doesn't 472 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: mean you're a great team. But it's pretty clear watching 473 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Ole Miss right or Alabama that even in years where 474 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: they underachieve, they're way better than SMU. And looking back 475 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: at the College Football Playoff when everyone argued SMU deserves it, 476 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: how many guys at SMU just have drafted? The SEC Again, 477 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: for I don't know, the one hundredth year in a 478 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: row had more players than any conference drafted. If you 479 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: combined the ACC and the Big twelve, they don't even 480 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: equal the SEC and they only eclipse the Big Ten 481 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: by a couple of players. I feel stronger and stronger 482 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: about this take and thought by the day, definitely by 483 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: the year. This is only going to continue to consolidate. 484 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not pro like what has happened to college football. 485 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: I did not want the Pac twelve to disappear. I 486 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: was not rooting for that. I love the Pac twelve. 487 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: I wish it still existed. I loved watching Oregon State 488 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: try to upset USC. I loved watching Washington State try 489 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: to take down on Kaylin Dubor when he had a 490 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: loaded team. That was cool. Those days are over. Those 491 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: programs are now essentially D one double A. Fresno State 492 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: got my start in football. It'll be D one Double 493 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: A or D two here really quick. These programs that 494 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: aren't not only Power four were headed to the power too. 495 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: That's where we're going. Miami, Florida State, North carol They 496 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: already want out of the ACC. So the lucrative programs 497 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: in the third best conference one out. They don't want 498 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: it to exist. And listen, I respect the Big Twelve 499 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: in terms of basketball. At football, it's a terrible conference. 500 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: It really it's a it's it is much closer the 501 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Big Twelve. And I'm not some shit talker. I loved 502 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Arizona and Arizona State when they were in the Pac Twelve. 503 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: But watching those two programs, especially Arizona State this year, 504 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: play in the Big Twelve, it's just not a very 505 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: good football conference. They lost their two best programs, Texas 506 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. The Big Twelve is closer to the Mountain 507 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: West than it is the Big Ten enter the SEC. Honestly, 508 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's that close. So like the argument, 509 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: and this is where college football is going to become 510 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: pretty fascinating. A lot of people have wondered quin Yours. 511 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Did Quinn Yours make a mistake. It was obvious when 512 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: he chose to come out in the NFL that he 513 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: could have made more money staying in college. He knew 514 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: that when he made the decision, because we all knew. 515 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: It's like, Quinn, you're not going to go in the 516 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: first two days of the draft, and we know the 517 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: going rate when we see Carson Beck making a couple 518 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: million dollars, like, you can still make millions of dollars now. 519 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I could also understand being a twenty one year old 520 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: kid like I don't want to go to class anymore. 521 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to stay on campus. I don't want 522 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: people to view me like Tyler Shuck. I'm just here 523 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: for the long haul. I do think though, you'll look 524 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: back if the NFL career does not go well. It 525 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: is hard in the real world, really really difficult, very 526 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: difficult to make millions of dollars. And if you're out 527 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: of the NFL, like a lot of players are in 528 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: under three years, the amount of money that you will accumulate, 529 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: especially if you only play on the couple practice squads 530 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: and then you barely even get a year and you're 531 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: out of the league, you will never be able to 532 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: recoup that money. Now, maybe go on to a successful career, 533 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: but it's more than likely gonna take you some time 534 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: to build up your career to even make big time 535 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: money for a decade, two decades, Like, it's gonna take 536 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: a while, and I think it's gonna be a conversation 537 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: moving forward. Like Carson Beck went to Miami, he was 538 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: in the same situation. He easily could have come out. 539 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: He would have been drafted just like all these other 540 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: guys in the sixth, seventh round. Instead he's like, I'm 541 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna cash in. I think it's crazy, Like I wouldn't 542 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: give millions of dollars to Carson Beck or Queen Viewers. 543 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: But I'm not running these programs, and these programs are 544 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: proving they will do it now. I also think this argument, 545 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: like that's out there on the internet, the guys, if 546 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: they don't get drafted where they want to go, should 547 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: be able to come back to college. Like, No, I 548 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: don't agree with that, but maybe we should lengthen the time. 549 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: I'd have no problem with going up to like free 550 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Like you're allowed to go to the Combine and through 551 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: basically free agency to start a free agency March fifteenth, 552 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: that's the date, and you're able to test the waters. 553 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: You know, the NBA has done this for a long time, 554 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: go to the Combine and if you want to back up. 555 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: I even think the NFL in college has tried to 556 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: institute that. But I think more guys should utilize that. 557 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: And if you want to stay, Hey, this is going 558 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: right now. I do think it's a little complicated with 559 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: the transfer portal and everything, but that's a lot of 560 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: money to pass up. It really is. But I also 561 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: understand as someone I could count on two hands the 562 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: things I've learned in class in college. Not even I 563 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: don't think I learned anything in a classroom in college, 564 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: not one thing, And college really benefited my life. Everything 565 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: I learned was outside of the classroom, meeting new people, 566 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: trying to date women that I didn't grow up with, 567 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: like doing stuff for professionally when you know nobody, trying 568 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: to kind of forge your path. Like everything I learned 569 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: in my four five four years in a couple of 570 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: quarters at cal Pauly was outside of a classroom. So 571 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I understand these guys going this is stupid. I agree 572 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: with you. Unless you're gonna become a doctor or an engineer, 573 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: most things you're gonna learn in this classroom will not 574 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: benefit you as you age professionally at all. But like, 575 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: I know people that are just ready for the next 576 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: challenge and ready for the next thing. And I can't 577 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: imagine it's easier for me at forty years old to 578 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: value money and understand like and be able to look 579 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: at things from a twenty thousand foot view than it 580 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: is for a young guy who's just been making I 581 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: bet Queen yours made millions of dollars in the last 582 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, so because I'll just make more and 583 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: he'll look back maybe in five years of Like, God, 584 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: I should have just transferred A and M. I'm just 585 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: picking random schools, but he clearly would have had options, 586 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: and it's going to be fascinating to watch how this 587 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: plays out, like if these got and part of it 588 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: is this. You know, Shador made a lot of money 589 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: in branding because he was a really famous college player. 590 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: Same with Quinn eyrs really famous college player. That brand 591 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: changes dramatically. If you're not good in the NFL, no 592 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: one cares. I've always hated athletes that try to start 593 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: brands that basically are just copying, like Michael Jordan or 594 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods or some of these guys. Like the biggest 595 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: brands in my life when it comes to athletes are 596 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: based on guys who are fucking legends, champions, the greatest 597 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: players of all time. I mean, the greatest athlete brand 598 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: not even close, is Michael Jordan, also known for one 599 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: of the greatest champions in the history of society. I 600 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: don't even know what TB twelve is, but when you 601 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: say TV twelve, everyone knows it. Why because he's got 602 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls. Tiger Woods literally changed the way business 603 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: professionals wore collared shirts to work and changed an entire industry. 604 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: The polo industry because he was winning majors every single year. 605 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Part of your brand has to be greatness, right Patrick. 606 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: You can build a brand in brands behind Patrick Mahomes 607 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: why he wins NonStop. The NBA is full of these 608 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: guys whose brand like what are you doing? You know 609 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: this ain't gonna work, and usually it does. Now I'm 610 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: not saying like I kind of say, I feel like 611 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: you're just being a hater talking reality, And I think 612 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna look back like, did I make 613 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: a mistake? Now? I don't Shadore. I'm sure thought even 614 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: if he fell, was gonna be a second round pick. Everyone, 615 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: every single human knew that quinn Ewers was not gonna 616 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: get drafted very high. Honestly, I'm a little surprised he 617 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: got drafted at all. He could have stayed chose not to, 618 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: and I wonder if he's going to be used as an 619 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: example moving forward the difference. You know, Basically, they came 620 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: to a fork in the road, him and Carson Beck. 621 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: They were in two separate cars, driving right next to 622 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: each other. Carson Beck went, I'm gonna cash into ching. 623 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Quinn Ewer said, I can never look at another professor 624 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: who even knows if he was going to class. I've 625 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: talked to some of you young guys. Half your classes 626 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: are online. I would have died for an online class 627 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: when I was in college. He's like, I'm going pro. 628 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: And then you get drafted late and you only make 629 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: one hundred grand, which is incredible for ninety nine point 630 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: nine percent of you know, twenty twenty one, twenty two 631 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: year olds. But when you've been used to making millions 632 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: of dollars, it has to be like, damn, did I 633 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: make the right decision. The volume