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Speaker 1: the Texans Brass will be greeting the media tomorrow the

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Speaker 1: next day, Bill O'Brien, then Brian Gaine, Johnny good evening.

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Speaker 1: Is it Bill O'Brian first, then Brian Gaine. It is

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Speaker 1: a schule, Bill O'Brian. Bill. Brian will be joining us

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and then Brian Gaine will be joining us

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. They got the little split safety look with

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't have this title wave all on

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Speaker 1: one day. Yeah, because of split it up. We can

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Speaker 1: talk to Ob about certain things, and then on Thursday

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Speaker 1: we can talk Brian. If there's some things that we

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Speaker 1: we can then hit with Brian Gaine with it. So

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Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that on Wednesday and Thursday. Here

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Speaker 1: to as well. Love get forward to it, indeed, and

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Speaker 1: But I love the first couple of days being there

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that people don't see is when

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Speaker 1: we went to the Combine. That was awesome. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: I was on the junior varsity name dropping team in college,

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Speaker 1: so I'm good at this stuff. I'm very advanced actually,

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Speaker 1: So get ready. It's gonna happen the next few nights.

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Speaker 1: We will be at the Combine giving you the stuff. Now,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna begin with Texans history at the Combine, a

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Speaker 1: little bit like how guys looked at the combine versus

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Speaker 1: but I think Will's the embodiment of it. Oh there's

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Speaker 1: a difference in game speed, in track speed or forty speed,

427
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Speaker 1: and there is right there is there definitely is. Will

428
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Speaker 1: is probably the one player outside of Tyreek Hill. Tyreek

429
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Speaker 1: Hugh is probably the only player that I've seen that

430
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Speaker 1: may play at that speed all the time. Like Tyreek,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what the combine. Well, he remember

432
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: he had issues coming out of college. Yeah, he had

433
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Speaker 1: some issues off the field coming out of college. So

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Speaker 1: I don't believe he he was Does he be on

435
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Speaker 1: this list right? There's no question. But Will plays the

436
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Speaker 1: game at that four three one speed all the time.

437
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Speaker 1: And I think the best example of that was against

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Speaker 1: Miami on the seventy three yard touchdown catch within eight

439
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Speaker 1: yards mark, within eight yards, Bobby McCain is trailing him,

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Speaker 1: and Bobby's looking at his safety, He's like, yo, where's

441
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Speaker 1: my helse? Within eight yards and Will is just pulling away.

442
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Speaker 1: He's pulling away from it. Wouldn't matter if the safeties

443
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Speaker 1: were there or not, He's pulling away from him. He

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Speaker 1: plays at that speed at all times. That's what Irvin does.

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Speaker 1: Not you mentioned Irvin speed, it felt like and I

446
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Speaker 1: think the way the year got started for him regular

447
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Speaker 1: season wise, it looked a lot better than it did

448
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Speaker 1: in the preseason, right, absolutely, and I saw why they

449
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Speaker 1: did it, why they kept him at that point. But

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean you look at him in game situations,

451
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Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like he's one of those super

452
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Speaker 1: fast guys. Other notable guys on this fastest forty time

453
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Speaker 1: at the Combine list Champ Bailey with a four two

454
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Speaker 1: eight Hey Standard Routers on Sports Radio six ten, a

455
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Speaker 1: lot at age four two seven. I mean, some of

456
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Speaker 1: these guys are running like lightning, Darius Hayward Bay. The

457
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Speaker 1: Raiders have picked up a lot of these guys shocker

458
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Speaker 1: over the year. Shocker, Jacobe Ford. I mean a lot

459
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Speaker 1: of Raiders on this list for some reason. Very interesting. Wow,

460
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Speaker 1: that's there's some reason. That reason was Alf Davis. He

461
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Speaker 1: loved those guys with speed, and then it can be

462
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Speaker 1: the great equalizer. I think you know. Another example receiver

463
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Speaker 1: example was one Jalen Strong. When Jalen was coming on

464
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Speaker 1: Arizona State, Jaalen nan four four flat, which shocked I

465
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Speaker 1: think everybody. He ran four four big. He's big, but

466
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Speaker 1: he never played at that speed. You know, he never

467
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Speaker 1: played at he didn't look at when he played here

468
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Speaker 1: he made some well we always talked about it. He

469
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Speaker 1: made some big catches. He didn't make some big catch

470
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Speaker 1: he didn't make enough of him, right, but he made

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Speaker 1: some big ones he did. He made in the one

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Speaker 1: against Indy two of them. Again, remember he was the

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Speaker 1: Cults killer for a moment. Yea he had that He

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Speaker 1: had to hail Mary against Indy. Oh that's right, he'll

475
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Speaker 1: marry in the game. Well, they didn't win that game.

476
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Speaker 1: And what game is that called? Was Halselebeck in the Typers?

477
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: Also hail Mary for Jalen Strong. And then later that

478
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Speaker 1: later that year, he catches the game winning the go

479
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Speaker 1: ahead touchdown, the only touchdown of the game right for

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Speaker 1: the sas it was a touchdown of three field goals.

481
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Speaker 1: And remember right for the half he had the toe

482
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Speaker 1: tapper for the half that got them a few goal

483
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Speaker 1: after Weeding had gone in. How about this one in

484
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Osweiler to him in overtime left sideline. That

485
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: was a heck of a throw in a catch. He

486
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Speaker 1: was the Colts killer. I'm giving Oswalder credit for a

487
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: good throw because he had three really good ones he

488
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Speaker 1: didn't And that happen all night driving it seemed like.

489
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Speaker 1: But but Jalen never played at that speed consistently. He

490
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Speaker 1: never played at four four speed consistently. And I think

491
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Speaker 1: that that ends up being one of the one of

492
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Speaker 1: the things when you see these guys that have this

493
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Speaker 1: this unbelievable speed, and Jalen had size to go with it,

494
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Speaker 1: it's just never you couldn't. He didn't play at that speed,

495
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Speaker 1: and I think that would ended up being a problem

496
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Speaker 1: for him. What about Clowney's combined Oh, it was sick. Oh.

497
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Speaker 1: I love them showing you know, we show those those

498
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Speaker 1: superimposed videos where you see Clowney running against Khalil mac

499
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Speaker 1: running against Watt, Right, Yeah, they can match up anybody.

500
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Speaker 1: Clowney running of forty is a sight to behold. It's amazing.

501
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember this. One Christmas

502
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Speaker 1: Eve night twenty sixteen texts their head of the Cincnati

503
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Bengals that game is gonna come up in a later conversation,

504
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Speaker 1: and any Dalton throws a screen to Brandon LaFell. Oh yeah,

505
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: and LaFell starts weaving his way back across the field

506
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Speaker 1: and here comes Clowney and Clowney is running full speed

507
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: and nearly caught Brandon LaFell. One of the safeties kind

508
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: of came from an angle and kind of got in

509
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Speaker 1: front of Clowney. But if it got another five yards

510
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Speaker 1: of the safety one there, Clowney could have dove and

511
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: knocked this. I mean to see him run that fast

512
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Speaker 1: in full pads. Right at that point in the game,

513
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, dang it, the Bengals of take canna lead.

514
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Speaker 1: But then I went and I watched the replaying like, man,

515
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Speaker 1: did y'all see Clowney? Holy smoke? How about this? Just

516
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: forty times are weird? Clowney four or five three, four

517
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Speaker 1: or five three, he's six five two, seventy four or

518
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Speaker 1: five three. Jerry Rice didn't run a four or five

519
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: three at Kwan Balden didn't run a four or five three.

520
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous. I'll tell you what, if you ever

521
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Speaker 1: want to play defense on offense, Clowney is a tight end,

522
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Speaker 1: sign me up for that. I don't know if he's

523
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Speaker 1: got the hands for it, but just like a player

524
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Speaker 1: two and do something with them. No, I mean, I

525
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: just I remember people's There were all kinds of videos

526
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Speaker 1: that night that came out Christmas Eve night saying I

527
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: don't care how Brandon fell. Watch Clowney run him down

528
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: and you could you could see that he doesn't do

529
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Speaker 1: that because Texans didn't have anybody or give up a

530
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: play like that all year where he had to really

531
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Speaker 1: come chase from behind. When he chased it from behind,

532
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: it's pretty sick freaky like he'll run down, he'll run

533
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Speaker 1: down bubble screens or slip screens on the other side

534
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Speaker 1: of the field, and it's just amazing to see four

535
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Speaker 1: or five three at that size. I mean, his combine

536
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Johnny, He's only twenty six years old. I

537
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: know that's crazy. All right, let's continue to talk about

538
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Speaker 1: your Houston Texans like we always do here on Jexans Radio,

539
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: and maybe a little more combined stuff. Top five walkoff wins.

540
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Speaker 1: That piece is out. Let's talk about it here on

541
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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Getting to Combine crunch time here with

542
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: Indianapolis in our crosshairs will be from Indy tomorrow, the

543
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: next day and Friday as the scouting combine is underway.

544
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to do this. We've talked a bunch

545
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: of combine. Maybe we'll revisit some of that stuff. We

546
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Speaker 1: have a lot of time. Here the top five walk

547
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Speaker 1: off wins in Texans history. Johnny, here are the criteria. Okay,

548
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: you cannot have you can have an extra point after

549
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: the walkoff score, because that's just the silly rule that

550
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Speaker 1: was in place. It's not in place any longer what

551
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: it was in place in the NFL, right where, even

552
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: if you score with no time left and it doesn't matter,

553
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't affect the outcome of the game, you still

554
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: have to kick the extra point, which was silly. I

555
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: don't maybe it's for gambling purposes. I don't know, but

556
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: why would the league do that. We don't have to

557
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: debate that. But you can have the extra point be

558
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: a requirement after a walkoff, but you cannot have an

559
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: ensuing kickoff. Okay, all right, that eliminates certain games here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you right off the bat. T J.

561
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Speaker 1: Yates to Kevin Walter is not a walkoff win. It

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Speaker 1: kind of is. You still have to kick off a

563
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: couple of seconds left, but it does not qualify for

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Speaker 1: this top five. To that end, okay, Jjo pick six

565
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: last year against Buffalo doesn't qualify, does not qualify? Okay, well,

566
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Speaker 1: they got it back and didn't they throw another pick

567
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and there you go. So there's no way. I mean,

568
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: they could have marched down the field and theoretically scored.

569
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, here's another one that doesn't count. And

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Speaker 1: I was really unhappy about this because I thought maybe

571
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: it was a true walkoff because my memory was a

572
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: little foggy on the final moment. Went to this one.

573
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: But the game in which the Texans beat the Dolphins

574
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight to avoid an oh and

575
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: five start following the hurricane and everything and match Shop,

576
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Speaker 1: it's I think fourth and two at the three, and

577
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: he runs in for the go ahead and score. But

578
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: there are some time in the clock for a kickoff

579
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: there it is. Yeah, I you asked me about that

580
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the other day. I thought there was time afterwards. I

581
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: couldn't remember exactly, but yeah, that still leaves a few.

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Speaker 1: In fact, oh it, Oh, we've got some. The twenty

583
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: eighteen season alone, I could think of. Well, hold on

584
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Speaker 1: a second, does it have to be a situation in

585
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: which the Texans scored, No, it does not. In fact,

586
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: the number one game on this list does not involve

587
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: a Texan score. It involves a missed opportunity for somebody.

588
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that in a moment. Was it

589
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: by a former text? It could be number five? Spoiler

590
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: alert Number five. The Texans beat Indie for the first

591
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Speaker 1: time ever December twenty fourth, two thousand and six. It's

592
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: a walk off Chris Brown. He hit a big field

593
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: goal forty eight yards. As time expires, Texans win. Joy ensues.

594
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: It was Christmas Eve. They've never eaten the Colts. That

595
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Colts team won the Super Bowl that year. This is

596
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: a big win. Your call comes up on America's game

597
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm pretty sure it does, because if I

598
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Speaker 1: remember correctly, didn't youse, didn't you after you said you

599
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: were like merry Christmas? Yeah I did. Yeah, Yeah, it's on.

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Speaker 1: It's on the two thousands. It's funny because, like I've

601
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: seen an NFL version, NFL Films version of that. They

602
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: used the radio they used to them, they use yours,

603
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: and then they used bob lamy dar. We lost, So

604
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: it's like clear and say anything else bad, it's it's

605
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: very some dude kicks up and it's good. How about

606
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: this lost. Two of the top five walk off wins

607
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise are quarterbacked by David Carr.

608
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Speaker 1: David Car because he quarterback back game. Okay, the Deceper

609
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: twenty four, two thousand and six went over the Colts

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Speaker 1: and the number four one where very few people remember this,

611
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: but old time Texans, old time, old time Texans fans will.

612
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: From two thousand and three, Week four, the Texans are

613
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Speaker 1: trailing Jacksonville and Jacksonville has the ball late with Byron

614
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Leftwich in possession of the pigskin, but not for long

615
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: because he fumbles. Texans get it back mini drive. They

616
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: couldn't get anything done offensively that game at all, but

617
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: they get it down to the one and there they

618
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: are with time for one more snap. Dom Capers elects

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Speaker 1: to go for the win. He could kick a field

620
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: goal and go to overtime right there, but Riverboat Dom,

621
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Speaker 1: no one's ever called him that. Riverboat Dom decides to

622
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: go over the top, and David car does it. He

623
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: just bip breaks the plane of the goal line and

624
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Speaker 1: the crowd went nuts. You would think they just won

625
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That was a fun moment, and they

626
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: went to two and two at the time, which was

627
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: a headline in two thousand and three. It's like, wow,

628
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Speaker 1: they're five hundred after a quarter of the season. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that I didn't realize that was that early. For some reason,

630
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Speaker 1: I thought that was later in his career, or and

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Speaker 1: it was later in the year. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and three, Week four, yep, they all right,

633
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Speaker 1: So they had five beating the Dolphins to start the season,

634
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Speaker 1: then they lost two straight, and then they got that win. Okay,

635
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Speaker 1: I can't remember where they lost Week three. I think

636
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Speaker 1: it might even Kansas I can't remember anyway, so it's

637
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: not Kansas City. It'll come to me. Saints Week two.

638
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: All right, So let's go to the third best walk

639
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: off win in the history of the franchise, and this

640
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: would be from two thousand and eighteen beating Dallas in overtime.

641
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now number three. They're gonna be some diehards.

642
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: They're like, that should beating Umber one. Well, I you know,

643
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: it's not making this list beating the Colts week four

644
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: this past season where you're looking at oh and four

645
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: in the face, Well, how many of them do we

646
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: have this year? Week four? Week five? Right, the Broncos McManus, Yeah, McManus,

647
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: is that it as far as Washington? Remember they had

648
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: a few Oh no, no, right, we had to take

649
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: a knee after that. Yeah, that doesn't qualifiesn't qualify. We

650
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: have to take We had to take a knee after that.

651
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Anything else this year? No, no, no, we had the reverse.

652
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah the Jets wasn't a walk off. They got the

653
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: ball back wat Sex Darnald, Okay, but beating Dallas and

654
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: overtime and looking back at the box score of that,

655
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: what a slug fest. Defensively it was because you have

656
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: Dak and you have to Sean running for decent chunks

657
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: of yardage about forty a little bit less for Dak,

658
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: I think about forty for de Shaun. Not much of

659
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: a running game for either team. They held Elliott to

660
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: two point seven yards per carry. The defense really boat

661
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: up that game, and the Texans had trouble running it,

662
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: had trouble throwing it. But you have enough points here

663
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: to get into overtime and then you're able to stop

664
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: them in the short yardage situation. You get the ball

665
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: back and we all know about Spinnerama than the game

666
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: winning field goal there, they had the ball. Texas had

667
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: the ball inside the five how many times? Like five times?

668
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but we had like five times it's at

669
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: the five. Yeah, just couldn't put them. I mean that

670
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: was a game I remember thinking afterwards, a thank god

671
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: d Shaun's still alive, bark. We could have blown that

672
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: thing out. Yeah, we could have been really could have

673
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: big party, celebrate, could have blown that thing out. That

674
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: would have been fun to see them beat the Cowboys

675
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: like that. All right? Top five walkoff wins in franchise history.

676
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: So we have five four and the third one the

677
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: Texans beating the Cowboys at overtime. The fourth was car

678
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: over the top against the Jags. The fifth was beating

679
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Indie for the first time ever in OH six. The

680
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: second best walkoff win Andre Johnson overtime catching run against

681
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: the Jags twenty twelve. Yeah, people are gonna say, well,

682
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: what about isn't the win over the Colts this past

683
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: season bigger? Look? You forget how big that one was.

684
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: First of all, shop through for five hundred twenty seven yards.

685
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: That second best all time in the history of the league.

686
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Five twenty seven yards. They're down fourteen points in the

687
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they come back and win it in

688
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: overtime like that. Chad Henny is quarterbacking too Jags. It

689
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: goes nuts. He throws for a gazillion yards himself and

690
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson in that game and the one four days

691
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: later against the Lions had the best two game stretch

692
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver production wise in the history of

693
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. He was that good in those two guys.

694
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: That game goes down, I think in one of the

695
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: more underrated, Like if you had we did a top

696
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: ten category of underrated wins, like wins you don't think

697
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: about often, that would probably falls in that category. I remember,

698
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 1: I remember being upstairs and I was in the press

699
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: box that when I was talking to people along the

700
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: way and I was like, They're not gonna come back

701
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: from this one. They're not coming back from this one.

702
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just not But the one

703
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: thing I kept thinking was they're gonna go to overtime

704
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to go to Detroit, yep

705
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: and play at noon. How and then they went to

706
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: overtime in that game and they won both them, so

707
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: so that one doesn't make it Detroit one doesn't. Okay.

708
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: So the number one walk off win in the history

709
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: of this franchise happened also on Christmas Eve, and it

710
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: happened against the Cincinnati Bengals against a former Texans player,

711
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Randy Bullock, who lined up for the would be game

712
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: winner as the Texans were up twelve ten for the Bengals,

713
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: but he missed and it was so joyful watching Randy. Now,

714
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, all due respect to Randy, good guy, whatever, aggy,

715
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: but come on, you know we were all dying for

716
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: him to miss that one. The Texans won the AFC

717
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: South with that missed field goal. And before people say, well,

718
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: they would have won it the next week at Cincinnati,

719
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: because I mean at Tennessee, because it would have been

720
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you're gonna win that game. Really, you're

721
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: gonna win that game on the road. First of all,

722
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: let me remind everybody they lost that game. I know

723
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: they sat a lot of guys. Tom Savage started, which

724
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: at the time seemed like was gonna be a great thing,

725
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: but it turned out to be not such a good thing,

726
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: and it starts the following year and he got hurt

727
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: that game on a quarterback sneak. Osweiler had to play.

728
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: You couldn't win the game, and Oswalder really wanted that

729
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: game to prove that he was still Oswalder. I don't

730
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: know this for a fact. So I'm trying to remember.

731
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: I know that Tennessee finished nine and seven, right, so

732
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: I think that would have been a winner take all

733
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: game in Nashville, I think. But it didn't turn into that.

734
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: But I remember in that game, you know what I

735
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: remember on that final drive, Rex Burkhead. Rex Burkhead on

736
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: that final drive was unstoppable. We couldn't stop him, right,

737
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say there was a running there,

738
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: but he had a couple of receptions. We couldn't stop him,

739
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: and he kept and they're moving the ball down. I

740
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: just remember I'm down and I'm just like, you know,

741
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm obviously listening to you and Andre, and I'm just like, oh,

742
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is gonna happen. This is not

743
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen. And so on Christmas Eve night, I go

744
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: down and as I always do, and they stand by

745
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: the goal post for a field goal, and I'm like,

746
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: I am not going to stand by this goal post

747
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: and watch this thing go through. I stood to the

748
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: outside because I could not watch that thing go through.

749
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: And the ball literally went right over my head and

750
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: and he missed it. And it was just that joyous

751
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: feeling of what they had been through. Putting Tom in

752
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: the lineup after Brock not playing well and then getting

753
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: that win and kind of hanging on for that one

754
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati was just I mean, it made I remember

755
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: staying up that night till about three in the morning,

756
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: because obviously Christmas night you can all the presents wrapped

757
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I remember there was a there's a

758
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: point about two o'clock in the morning where I was

759
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: still wired and my wife had fallen asleep next to

760
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: me on a couch, and so I just put the

761
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: game on it just started watching the game and watched

762
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: that moment again. It was just like I was just

763
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: it was really incredible. You think this list is actually

764
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: pretty decent. I think it's pretty good. I mean you

765
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: could I think you could take a lot of a

766
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: lot of them from twenty eighteen that you could put

767
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: on there. I mean, the mcmahonus law miss was really great.

768
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: It was a great day. It was great, but it

769
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: felt better stole one. You know. The only the thing

770
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: about the Denver one was it was hit the fourth

771
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: down play. I was thinking about that the other day

772
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: because I saw a picture of Kareem hitting Lindsay and

773
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: I started thinking about that game, and then Emmanuel Sanders

774
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: makes that catching. The Kareem is right there, but Sanders

775
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: makes the catch and I'm like, no, no, they're not

776
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: gonna beat us for a bye week. And remember de

777
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Marius had gotten traded to us that week. We pull

778
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: up and on the outside of the stadium they're two

779
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: big banners, one for von Miller and one for Da Marius,

780
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: and they had put a thank you DT sign. I

781
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: just remember thinking this is gonna be a weird day.

782
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: I remember think it's gonna be a weird day to

783
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: start that off. And then there were so many cameras

784
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: by our tunnel coming out. They all wanted to see

785
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: and catch the Marius coming out of the tunnel back

786
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: home in a Texas uniform, and his family was there

787
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: for the first time. Yeah, to see him play's incredible

788
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa this And on the first

789
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: drive they go to him like three times. I know,

790
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: the whole day just felt sort of heavy. So when

791
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: he missed that, it was like, oh, man, of course

792
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: we can never play that call because I interrupted your call,

793
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: which is I still feel bad you did it. It's

794
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: not your fault. But every time I see's fault Jones

795
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: just kidding, but yeah, I could have put Denver up there.

796
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: I could have seen that Washington and quite have that,

797
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: because once Washington got to that spot, you just thought

798
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: they have to kick it here. But there's no ways

799
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: making it right. But it wasn't. I mean there was

800
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: also a kneel down right after that too, But um,

801
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: those are the ones that I mean twenty the first

802
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: when you brought this up with me, the first thing

803
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: I thought of was Christmas Eve night twenty sixteen. That

804
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: was the first one. I like that one. That's that's

805
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: a walkoff when it's a big celebration. You just won

806
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: the division championship. You took the pressure off of the

807
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: following week. There was so much good about it, and

808
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: you knew, I think you knew at the time that

809
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: no matter what happened, yeah, you would you had no

810
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: shot of the bye anyway, so you wanted to have

811
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: a chance to rest somebody for your guys the following week. Yeah.

812
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: The only one that I would think of is probably

813
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: this year at Indie, in large part because of how

814
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: that team went and just kind of the the up

815
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: and down nature of that game, what both teams ended

816
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: up becoming when they weren't that day, but what they

817
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: became it is pretty incredible too. But that game was me.

818
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Think about it, thirty seven, thirty four, you're up twenty

819
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: eight ten, they come back. It's Andrew Luck turning in

820
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. I think years down the road, we'll look

821
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: at that one and go, WHOA. I would show that

822
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: what NFL Network shows these games of the week from

823
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: the past season. Yeah, I'm not so sure what the

824
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Week four game of the week was, but you'd be

825
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: hard pressed to do better than that one. Because the

826
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Texas are up twenty eight to ten, Colts came back.

827
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: You have the seesaw it over time. I just remember

828
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: at the time thinking, we're gonna see these two, Deshaun

829
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: Watson and Andrew Luck get it on for a long

830
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: time here, and these are gonna be some big battles.

831
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Just buckle up, get used to it. Of course, it's

832
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: a horrendous memory the way the playoff thing went down,

833
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: but we won't talk about that right now, and you

834
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: just got to move on and hope for better things

835
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: next year. One more thing about the Combine as we

836
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: get ready for a Combine show starting tomorrow from Indianapolis, Johnny,

837
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: is there a player that you remember more than others?

838
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: You mentioned Fuller, but who else do you really remember

839
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: talking to it the combine? Is there one that stands

840
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: out to you a combined conversation or a moment or

841
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: something like that. I think for me it would be

842
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: talking to Teddy Bridgewater that year because that was such

843
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: a year of the we were convinced the Texans we're

844
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback. You know, they Savage in the

845
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: fourth round. And also Derek Carr that year, you know

846
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: how he was. I remembered having an interview with him

847
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: and just having the history with the car family. That

848
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: was fun to talk with him. One of one of

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Speaker 1: our last year in the West Club over at Lucas Soil,

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Speaker 1: and I'll never forget Jared. They announced Jared Goff was

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Speaker 1: going to be a podium A yeah, and so people

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Speaker 1: started like congregating over there, and so Goff walks in

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Speaker 1: it starts doing the interview and I'm telling you, Mark,

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Speaker 1: so that they could get a look at Gared taking pictures.

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Speaker 1: We were so crowded in there listening to Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: Was that the most crowded that I can remember? What

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Speaker 1: about man? I don't I don't remember. I wasn't there

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Speaker 1: for Tayo. I wasn't there. Tayo was Taylor was left? No, No,

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Speaker 1: Tayo was like twelve, you weren't there there? My first

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Speaker 1: one was twenty fifteen Manzelle. Pretty big show. Yeah, man

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Speaker 1: Zelle was a pretty pretty big show. Um. I The

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Speaker 1: one that I think it was Drew tells me about

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Speaker 1: is Ryan Mallett. Like then Mallett went up there and

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Speaker 1: there were so many people there and malt was just

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Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to say awestruck, but he

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Speaker 1: just was kind of like, WHOA where all these people

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Speaker 1: they're at? They're firing questions. He said that one was

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Speaker 1: pretty crowded, But I'm the forget. I mean, people were

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Speaker 1: on top of people listening to Jared Goff. And Jared

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Speaker 1: doesn't say a whole lot anyways, He's not like a

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Speaker 1: quote a minute, but it was just this guy's thought

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Speaker 1: to be the number one quarterback in the draft, we

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Speaker 1: gotta go get a piece, and it was so. By

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Speaker 1: year three for golf Super Bowl appearance, obviously it didn't

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Speaker 1: go as well as he was hoping. And which guy

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Speaker 1: would you rather have? Number four? Or him? Oh? Any

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Speaker 1: day four? I think any GM in the league would

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Speaker 1: probably say that. Come on, really we talked there. Anybody

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Speaker 1: would want Golf over Watson at this point. I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe Sean McVay. I don't know. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a great discussion another day, Johnny, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Mark all right from the Combine Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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