Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacksam.
Speaker 2: I'm Kindannie Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with
Speaker 2: me today. We also have a special guests because Okah
Speaker 2: kicked off yesterday. Football is back here in Jacksonville and
Speaker 2: we're excited to get to talk a little bit football
Speaker 2: as to get ready for the upcoming season. Big thing
Speaker 2: number one, no depth chart. We talked to defensive coordinator
Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen yesterday as he implements his new defense.
Speaker 1: He said he's.
Speaker 2: Really looking at each individual player and not trying to
Speaker 2: pigeonhole them into any one position.
Speaker 3: We're still in that process of moving guys around. The
Speaker 3: more you can do, you know, and I think you
Speaker 3: can play a lot of years in this league if
Speaker 3: you can do more jobs. And so we don't want
Speaker 3: to just pigeonhole guys right now.
Speaker 1: And hey, this is this.
Speaker 3: But now there are certain guys on our defense that
Speaker 3: you know are going to play a certain position. You know,
Speaker 3: Davon Hamilton, he's gonna play defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: We know that, right.
Speaker 3: But some of these guys that can play two or
Speaker 3: three positions, we're gonna put him at these different positions
Speaker 3: and in these OTAs.
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity to see what guys can do.
Speaker 2: Now's the time to start implementing all that new defense,
Speaker 2: get everybody comfortable with it. Time to welcome in our
Speaker 2: guest as well. Bucky Brooks is with us today. Bucky,
Speaker 2: what's this new defense gonna look like?
Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean I think so so I used
Speaker 4: to be here. Uh look, I think the defense is
Speaker 4: gonna be dynamic, it's gonna be hybrid, but it's gonna
Speaker 4: be very very simple for the players to kind of
Speaker 4: get used to. When you talk to the players after practice,
Speaker 4: they talked about simple they've made, how the coach have
Speaker 4: done a really good job of clearing everything up. When
Speaker 4: you talk to Ryan Neilson, he talked about kind of
Speaker 4: playing musical chairs, having multiple guys learn multiple spots until
Speaker 4: everyone gets comfortable, and then putting the best eleven out there.
Speaker 4: I thought it was very apparent during practice. They moved
Speaker 4: around fast, they understood what to do, and there was
Speaker 4: very clear sense of what everyone was doing. And I
Speaker 4: think that is an upgrade over what was happening in
Speaker 4: previous years.
Speaker 5: About you use the word clear and said that they understood.
Speaker 5: My impression of Ryan Nielsen is is that there's no
Speaker 5: ambiguity at all. He's a great communicator. And when he
Speaker 5: stood in front of us yesterday and explained why and
Speaker 5: how things were going to be done in OTAs and
Speaker 5: then how it would be different in the training camp
Speaker 5: and how it would evolve, I mean he led a
Speaker 5: very clear picture. So for a new system that will
Speaker 5: require some new players to figure it all out, I
Speaker 5: give these guys a great opportunity because I thought Ryan
Speaker 5: Nielsen did an excellent job of explaining it. And if
Speaker 5: he can explain it to the media, and he can
Speaker 5: certainly get the point across to his players.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the fascinating storyline of OTAs and in
Speaker 6: a training camp is going to be exactly where guys
Speaker 6: line up and fans have been writing me for months
Speaker 6: how's this going to look? And I've been leaning on
Speaker 6: Bucky because he keeps saying, Look, it is not necessarily
Speaker 6: going to be a four to three defense. I think
Speaker 6: Ryan Nielsen got into that a little bit yesterday. Uh,
Speaker 6: And I think we're gonna see as the next few
Speaker 6: weeks play out that it is more of a hybrid.
Speaker 6: Then maybe the term hybrid has been used a lot
Speaker 6: with defenses the NFL. I think Jaguars fans are about
Speaker 6: to see it. But you know it's number one in
Speaker 6: the depth chart. That mustache, Oh that is.
Speaker 7: Number one starter quality.
Speaker 6: Devon Hamilton plays tackle, that mustache plays right next to it.
Speaker 4: R real quick like, And in talking to Andre Cisco
Speaker 4: after practice, he just talked about just the clarity and
Speaker 4: I I really wanna hammer that because he just talked
Speaker 4: about how and talking to Chris Shard and just how
Speaker 4: clear it is what everyone is going to be asked
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: Felt like maybe there was.
Speaker 4: A little great area last year and when you're uncertain
Speaker 4: you can't play fast, it appears that everyone is like
Speaker 4: dialed into Hey, let's make it very black or white,
Speaker 4: so the.
Speaker 1: Guys can play fast. They don't have to think a lot.
Speaker 4: And when if you if you're playing fast and aggressive,
Speaker 4: that's when the good things happen.
Speaker 1: On defense.
Speaker 2: Let's look at offenses. Well, that's something we've been talking
Speaker 2: about one heartbeat. We talked to the offensive line yesterday.
Speaker 2: Obviously not too physical at this time of practice because
Speaker 2: they're still in OTAs, but Mitch Morris, the new center
Speaker 2: for this team, talked about kind of getting on the
Speaker 2: same page with everyone in the group.
Speaker 8: Some of the best offensive lines I've seen have been physical, yes,
Speaker 8: but they've all worked in unison together, so it'll all
Speaker 8: be kind of working as I don't know, one heart beats,
Speaker 8: kind of thrown around a bit, but all having the
Speaker 8: same one heart beat and kind of working together. And
Speaker 8: that's what the great thing about it, too is we're
Speaker 8: going to figure out how to do that.
Speaker 7: Brian.
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about this offensive line and the
Speaker 2: changes they need to make. This is a crucial time
Speaker 2: of year. Kind of get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 5: It is, and he talks about the one heartbeat. He
Speaker 5: is the heartbeat, he's the center, and bringing him in
Speaker 5: to try to make things more productive in the middle
Speaker 5: than they were last year, Bucky, but also to get
Speaker 5: everybody communicating. And the offense finds an interesting group because
Speaker 5: you know, Anton Harrison is going to be one starter.
Speaker 9: What are you gonna do at left tackle? I mean,
Speaker 9: Walker Little is a.
Speaker 5: Guy who's been getting accolades this spring for the way
Speaker 5: that he's approached his job. Cam Robinson's been a long
Speaker 5: time starter out there. You got a lot of pieces
Speaker 5: the Tyler Shantley moved to bring him back. Maybe it's
Speaker 5: a flag, Maybe it's not that they don't know that
Speaker 5: they have great depth.
Speaker 4: Reguard Well, I mean, I mean, I think what you're
Speaker 4: trying to do is you're trying to have enough depth that, like,
Speaker 4: given the injury situation last year that you had, you
Speaker 4: want to.
Speaker 1: Make sure that you have enough guys that can play
Speaker 1: at a high level.
Speaker 4: I think what's interesting in both parts we talked about
Speaker 4: defense and offense, the communication is critical. The communication of
Speaker 4: the offensive line will certainly help because you have everyone back,
Speaker 4: and that position is a function of all guys being
Speaker 4: on the same page, all five guys understanding what the
Speaker 4: people beside them are doing.
Speaker 1: And when you have an opportunity to have Cam Robinson.
Speaker 4: Back, you think Ezra Cleveland coming back, Mitch Morris being
Speaker 4: a veteran center who's used to making all the calls
Speaker 4: and adjustments, Brandon Sheriffin, and Anton Harrison.
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to have a really good group
Speaker 1: and the solid up front.
Speaker 4: Then the offense has a chance to realize some of
Speaker 4: the potential that we thought we would see last season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're back to having good depth to
Speaker 6: tackle man. Cam Robbins's gonna start. You wouldn't bring him
Speaker 6: back not to start. I think the key with Mitch Morse,
Speaker 6: the theme all off season and listening to Doug talk
Speaker 6: about the free agents is guys who have been there
Speaker 6: in one. This is not a knock on Luke Fordner,
Speaker 6: He's a second or thirty year guy beyond anything physically.
Speaker 6: Mitch Morse is the guy in the center of the
Speaker 6: line who has been there in one sort of personifies
Speaker 6: that for the offensive line and maybe the whole offense.
Speaker 2: Setting the tone for sure. Our final big thing today
Speaker 2: is going to be contract talks. Doug Peterson weighed in
Speaker 2: on whether or not he's hoping Trevor gets his extension
Speaker 2: done sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: Obviously the sooner you get it done, right, it's just behind.
Speaker 5: Everybody and now we focus on football, and so that's
Speaker 5: not lingering, and that's.
Speaker 1: Not out there. You know, I know Trent his agent.
Speaker 8: Excuse me, they've continued to talk and we'll talk and
Speaker 8: they're working hard and tirelessly, and and you know, I.
Speaker 1: Just got to got to coach Trevor and coach football,
Speaker 1: and hopefully he gets done with.
Speaker 7: John.
Speaker 2: I know we talk about this contract pretty much every
Speaker 2: single week, but we got a little more out of
Speaker 2: Doug than we normally do. I'm sure he would like
Speaker 2: things done sooner than later, just so he stops getting
Speaker 2: asked about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think he's okay with being asked
Speaker 6: about He gets it. He's a quarterback. He knows the drill.
Speaker 6: I think the feeling I have, and I think, Brian,
Speaker 6: you agree, it's going to get done for the season.
Speaker 6: History tells us Joe Burrow Mahomes the big quarterback deals
Speaker 6: sometime in the summer of the third off season, when
Speaker 6: they're eligible, they get done.
Speaker 7: Why isn't it done now? Because it's a mega deal.
Speaker 6: It's complicated, and there's all sorts of things that you
Speaker 6: have to make fit under the cap, not just for
Speaker 6: this year, not just for next year, but in the future.
Speaker 6: Ye were of building your CAP's house, the foundation house
Speaker 6: with Treylor Lawrence, and he gets done. I keep getting
Speaker 6: emails well that they better not make Trevor the highest pace.
Speaker 7: Well, better buckle up. It's not right.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 5: Look, everything I keep hearing is is that it's not
Speaker 5: quite done, but imminent.
Speaker 9: It's not the right word.
Speaker 5: But don't be surprised if they've got it ready to
Speaker 5: go any day or when training camp begins, it's obviously
Speaker 5: something they put a lot of work into.
Speaker 6: At this point, Brian, there's no hurry on that, and
Speaker 6: that's why it takes a while to get done.
Speaker 7: There's no reason to rush it.
Speaker 9: Well, they should golf ride. Your golf's done.
Speaker 5: And the only one that bucket that I think is
Speaker 5: still out there that might be of interest to them
Speaker 5: as two of and his deal, and he's reported to
Speaker 5: OTAs he was not in the initial stages of the
Speaker 5: off season program in Miami, but he's one of those
Speaker 5: guys who was drafted a year in front of Trevor,
Speaker 5: and maybe they're waiting just to see where that goes,
Speaker 5: to see how that impacts the market. Because there is
Speaker 5: no pressure on them to get this done at any
Speaker 5: particular date. They've still got the fifth year option. If
Speaker 5: it stretches into the season, they've got.
Speaker 6: Time and the gap set buck I mean, yeah, they
Speaker 6: have time.
Speaker 4: But let's just know that the market only goes up,
Speaker 4: it doesn't come up. Yeah, and the sooner they can
Speaker 4: get it done, the better it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Economically.
Speaker 4: Down the road, Well, we do know the deal is
Speaker 4: probably gonna come in at well over fifty million annually.
Speaker 4: That's just gonna be the going rate for the quarterback.
Speaker 4: When you think about Jerry Goff getting fifty three to
Speaker 4: a tongue of our lawyer's going to be in their range,
Speaker 4: and that is going to kind of set the parameters
Speaker 4: of the deal that Trevor Science. In a perfect world,
Speaker 4: you would like to get it done before to a
Speaker 4: Science is because whatever Tua gets, he's going to want
Speaker 4: a little more over top.
Speaker 1: So hopefully they can get this done.
Speaker 4: But Jaguars fans have to get comfortable with the fact
Speaker 4: that you're gonna have the phisitey million dollar quarterback and
Speaker 4: how that's going to change the way that you build
Speaker 4: out the rest of your team.
Speaker 5: That's an interesting point because from this point forward, now
Speaker 5: your draft picks become much more important. The Jaguars have
Speaker 5: never had that mega cap hit from a quarterback that
Speaker 5: restricts what they do in free agency. It means you've
Speaker 5: got to be much more effective, much better at drafting
Speaker 5: and developing guys, because this guy now is going to
Speaker 5: be ten, twelve, fourteen percent.
Speaker 1: Of your cap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it changes the dynamic and the team building structure,
Speaker 4: but you're still gonna be able to be active in
Speaker 4: free agency. It's just you're gonna have just a handful
Speaker 4: of guys making a lot of money, and then you've
Speaker 4: got to have a lot of.
Speaker 1: Young players on cheap contracts making the rest of them
Speaker 1: my draft and develop, draft and develop.
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Speaker 10: Injuries are more mentally challenging than anything. It's just your
Speaker 10: mental but it could kind of callas your mind into
Speaker 10: you know, putting yourselves in uncomfortable situations and push them through.
Speaker 10: Like I said, adversity. But I'm just excited. Got a
Speaker 10: chip on my shoulder, just uh, you're ready to wake
Speaker 10: some people back up and you know, remind them that
Speaker 10: type of player that I am and will supportingly just
Speaker 10: have a positive impact on this team and help us
Speaker 10: get to.
Speaker 9: Where we want to be.
Speaker 2: That's Christian Kirk, Welcome back to jag Zam. He's working
Speaker 2: his way back. He had that groin injury. People were
Speaker 2: hopeful if they made the playoffs he would be able
Speaker 2: to come back and play. Obviously he wasn't able to
Speaker 2: do that because we didn't make the playoffs. But he
Speaker 2: was just talking a little bit about kind of rehabing
Speaker 2: and what that process is like. Obviously he feels a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on himself seeing the way the team
Speaker 2: ended the season and he wasn't able to be a
Speaker 2: part of that. Just getting back on track, especially when
Speaker 2: you haven't played football in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 4: It's tough coming back because as confident as you are
Speaker 4: as a player, you've done this for a long time,
Speaker 4: you still have those doubts when you're hurting and you
Speaker 4: set out with a significant injury like he has. But
Speaker 4: I think it's also trying to find the rhythm, like
Speaker 4: his rhythm with Trevor, his rhythm with Evan Ingram, and
Speaker 4: how all the pieces of the puzzle fit in the
Speaker 4: passing game. And there's been some conversation like he's kind
Speaker 4: of been dismissed by outsiders in terms of like can
Speaker 4: he'd be the number one receiver in this passing game?
Speaker 4: Him had every even kind of co sharing that role
Speaker 4: so well. He has a lot to prove. He has
Speaker 4: a lot that he wants to prove to the outside public,
Speaker 4: but more importantly to his teammates, that he can't carry
Speaker 4: the load as the lever suit.
Speaker 5: I wonder if people appreciate how consistent he is right
Speaker 5: the way that he spoke right there is the way
Speaker 5: that he speaks after win, after a loss, after a
Speaker 5: good game, after a bad game. He's just a constant
Speaker 5: but professional, and not having him on the field in
Speaker 5: the huddle didn't help anybody late last year, let alone,
Speaker 5: is production what he means. He's such a professional, He's
Speaker 5: worth every penny of what the Jaguars paid for. The
Speaker 5: type of player in person he is in that locker room.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think because we talk about these things so much, We.
Speaker 7: Tweet about him so much, Bucky and I would do.
Speaker 6: I had a lot of podcasts here in a few minutes,
Speaker 6: and everybody gets locked into verbiage these days. Is he
Speaker 6: a number one receiver? Is he an alpha? Is he
Speaker 6: a WR one?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 6: I don't know what Christian Kirk's WR number is, but
Speaker 6: I know he's got to be on the field, and
Speaker 6: I know that without him the offense is not the same.
Speaker 6: So is he a WR one is that even necessary.
Speaker 6: I know, I don't want to watch this team play
Speaker 6: very much if he's not on the field anymore.
Speaker 4: I will say this, like going back to last year,
Speaker 4: Doug talked about the wide receivers in the passing game
Speaker 4: and he said, this is a passing game that doesn't
Speaker 4: necessarily need a defined number one that if the quarterback
Speaker 4: plays at a high level, you can get away with
Speaker 4: winning with.
Speaker 1: A bunch of B plus receivers on the perimeter.
Speaker 4: And that's not to say that you don't have a
Speaker 4: dominant guy, but if you have very good wide receivers
Speaker 4: on the perimeter, you can make it happen. I think
Speaker 4: the thing that is apparent everyone that is on the
Speaker 4: field on the outside, they need to be high IQ
Speaker 4: guys who can be consistent, like you talked about, know
Speaker 4: exactly where the line up to do some of the
Speaker 4: interchangeability that we've seen in the past. Those things have
Speaker 4: to be a part of the equation. Christian Kirk is
Speaker 4: one of the guys that can do all of those things,
Speaker 4: which is why he's so.
Speaker 2: Critical to the offense exciting and hopefully we saw two
Speaker 2: seasons ago they were able to do that with a
Speaker 2: different kind of wide receiver group, so maybe they'll try
Speaker 2: to employ some of that this season as well. I
Speaker 2: do want to talk about the schedule that came out
Speaker 2: last Wednesday. I think everybody's kind of familiar with that,
Speaker 2: but maybe gold are some of the big games, because
Speaker 2: there's at least two very tough stretches that I think
Speaker 2: we both pointed kind of to start and then about
Speaker 2: midway through. So let's start off with those first four games,
Speaker 2: because that's quite the gauntlet right out of the gate. Brian,
Speaker 2: I know you think that game against Miami is gonna
Speaker 2: be really a big tone setter for them.
Speaker 5: Well, it is because we've been talking so much and
Speaker 5: we'll continue to about Ryan Nielsen's defense in the way
Speaker 5: that they have fortified it up front to get after
Speaker 5: the passer, and how they hope that these corners can
Speaker 5: play that press style. Bucky, You're going against the number
Speaker 5: one passing team in the league last year and the
Speaker 5: biggest down the field threats. I mean, I understand justin
Speaker 5: Jefferson and what he means and the guy in Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: but Tyreek Hill changes the dynamic just by being on
Speaker 5: the field.
Speaker 1: What a test for your defense in Week one I mean,
Speaker 1: here's test. I mean you talk about the best pass
Speaker 1: catch in the group that we will see.
Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about not only Tyreek Hill, but
Speaker 4: Javin Waddall.
Speaker 1: Combined.
Speaker 4: Those guys combined for eighty seven players of over twenty yards.
Speaker 1: So he's didn't bring obj in.
Speaker 4: As the wide receiver. You're hoping that your third corner
Speaker 4: can match up. They can create a lot of problems
Speaker 4: with their speed and quickness, and so it's going to
Speaker 4: be really not about the secondary. It's gonna be about
Speaker 4: the pass rush up front. Can they affect a quarterback?
Speaker 4: Can they change the time into the passen?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the pass rush is gonna be absolutely kiy.
Speaker 6: I've got a lot of questions about, well, are they
Speaker 6: gonna be on the same page going into Miami. I
Speaker 6: think it's fair to expect some mental breakdowns in that
Speaker 6: game because it's your first time playing against each playing
Speaker 6: with each other.
Speaker 7: The way to cover that is to get it for
Speaker 7: the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Another big one in those first five games is gonna
Speaker 2: be Monday Night football at Buffalo. There's two primetime games
Speaker 2: for the Jags this year, but they're both on the road. John,
Speaker 2: when you look at a road game in Buffalo. I mean,
Speaker 2: Buffalo has had a lot of changes in the offseason.
Speaker 2: Is this a game where maybe they could try to
Speaker 2: steal a win in primetime?
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think they'll talk about it in those turns.
Speaker 6: They've beaten the Bills two times in a row. Absolutely,
Speaker 6: I think the Bills will be talking about trying to
Speaker 6: get that fixed. Look Buffalo, you can say they're in transition,
Speaker 6: but they've got a quarterback who can break tackles when
Speaker 6: five guys are on them.
Speaker 7: So he's a special guy.
Speaker 6: They believe that he's Mahomes Burrow, that guy that they
Speaker 6: can make changes around him. And they're still elite. So
Speaker 6: I don't expect the Buffalo game to be easy.
Speaker 7: We'll talk about it more. It's my game to watch
Speaker 7: on the schedule.
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting because of the environment for a
Speaker 5: young team, right for Doug's team that's trying to get
Speaker 5: itself on track early Buffalo on Monday Night. Thankfully it's
Speaker 5: in September and not in late December. But Buffalo, Bucky
Speaker 5: Monday Night. You played there, you understand, I mean that
Speaker 5: place just it comes apart at the seams on Monday
Speaker 5: Night football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I actually think it's a great opportunity for
Speaker 4: the Jaguars kind of permitted themselves. Like those first two games,
Speaker 4: you kind of get the Kings out. You talk about
Speaker 4: Miami in Cleveland, but going on the role playing Buffalo
Speaker 4: on a Monday night in front of like a primetime
Speaker 4: audience that is going to be a huge with the
Speaker 4: Texans the next week. It's an opportunity for them to
Speaker 4: kind of make a statement, and they're taking games some
Speaker 4: confidence from knocking off the Buffalo Bills on the road.
Speaker 1: I think it spoke speaks well Boats well for their
Speaker 1: confidence going into the game against the Texas.
Speaker 2: After that tough stretch to start, they head out back
Speaker 2: to London. They're gonna do two games again in London
Speaker 2: this year. They'll play that away game at Tottenham first,
Speaker 2: that's gonna be against the Bears, and then they'll play
Speaker 2: the Patriots at Wembley. I think after they went to
Speaker 2: and Oh last year pretty much confirmed they were gonna
Speaker 2: get another two games over there this year. And then
Speaker 2: they come back and it's a little bit it's not
Speaker 2: easy after that because you've got the Packers right out
Speaker 2: of the gate here and then you head on the
Speaker 2: road and Sunday night football. You're taking on the Eagles.
Speaker 2: That makes those London games really important.
Speaker 4: Budget, Yeah, really important, and in fact, I think internally
Speaker 4: maybe you feel like.
Speaker 1: It's a competitive advantage.
Speaker 4: They head back to back London games, and so that's
Speaker 4: an opportunity to gain too on the division rivals. When
Speaker 4: you come back and you play two playoff teams. You
Speaker 4: played the Green Bay Packers in the phild Apia Eagles.
Speaker 4: The Packers game to be tough because the Packers are
Speaker 4: should be a team that's continued to be on the rise.
Speaker 4: But the Philadelphia game, to me is a measuring stick
Speaker 4: game because this is a team that on paper looks
Speaker 4: like a Super Bowl contender. The last time we went
Speaker 4: to Philadelphia. Look, we jumped out on them, but we
Speaker 4: didn't finish the game correct.
Speaker 1: Way. If you're able to play.
Speaker 4: Well against the Phillyeppie Eagles, I think it sets the
Speaker 4: table for you to go on a run heading down
Speaker 4: a stretch.
Speaker 9: How good is Jordan Love?
Speaker 5: Because if he is as good as we saw in
Speaker 5: the game of Dallas in the playoffs, then has there
Speaker 5: ever been a three quarterback stretch in NFL history?
Speaker 9: Like far of Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love Now, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, now you just haven't done it.
Speaker 4: And as part of their organizational philosophy to always be
Speaker 4: on the hunt for the quarterback, even when they have
Speaker 4: a quarterback in place and it's worked well for them,
Speaker 4: they'd have a slow cook method when it comes to
Speaker 4: putting the.
Speaker 1: Quarterback out there.
Speaker 4: And so it's work, but it's something that would be
Speaker 4: a great test for the look. We'll talk about the
Speaker 4: secondary and what the defense is going to be. It
Speaker 4: seems like a lot of the onus on the Jaguars
Speaker 4: hopes on the defense this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a brutal stretch because you talk about making
Speaker 6: a run after this, well, Green Bay, Philadelphia and you
Speaker 6: have Minnesota and Detroit. Yeah, I think you want to
Speaker 6: tread water and get through that and then hope to
Speaker 6: make a run.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking at. There is a late by.
Speaker 2: We know Doug Peterson likes a later bye, but maybe
Speaker 2: not necessarily this late. It's gonna be Week twelve this year.
Speaker 2: So as we mentioned Minnesota then Detroit, that's a game
Speaker 2: that I'm looking at that could be. You know, if
Speaker 2: you want to head into the by kind of in
Speaker 2: the mix still and you get blown out by the
Speaker 2: lines right before the buy. That's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 2: So you want to come out and hopefully get a
Speaker 2: win in that game so you can go into the
Speaker 2: buy at a decent spot.
Speaker 7: And then all the.
Speaker 2: Division games because you only had two earlier in the season,
Speaker 2: and then you got all of them backed up into
Speaker 2: the end of the season, so that makes them very important.
Speaker 6: I hope they're eleven or oh going into the buy right,
Speaker 6: So people's his schedule came out? Oh, John, you're two
Speaker 6: nati about the schedule. I'm not named about the schedule.
Speaker 6: I just I just look at it, and there are
Speaker 6: some tough stretches. No matter how good you are, it's
Speaker 6: gonna be tough to run the table. First four games
Speaker 6: and these other four games. To me, realistically, you go
Speaker 6: into the buy and if you're within a game two games,
Speaker 6: this schedule sets up where you can.
Speaker 7: Start reeling people in because you play them.
Speaker 6: Look, if there are two games up, which I hope
Speaker 6: they are, then this schedule is a chance to put
Speaker 6: everybody away. But the fact this schedule is like this,
Speaker 6: it keeps you in it. If these stretches are as
Speaker 6: tough as we think, we all think they are.
Speaker 5: I just always go back when people start saying how
Speaker 5: tough the schedule is. You just don't know where people
Speaker 5: are going to be injury wise. Right, as a reminder,
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety nine, the New York Jets were the
Speaker 5: favorite to win the AFC. They had Vinni Testaverdi coach
Speaker 5: by Bill Parcells had just lost to Denver, and John
Speaker 5: Elway had retired, and then Vinnie pops his ac our
Speaker 5: part of the Achilles on the third or fourth play
Speaker 5: of the season and they finished sixth and ten. Right,
Speaker 5: So you can look at the schedule and you can say, well,
Speaker 5: that's a really tough stretch.
Speaker 9: You don't know.
Speaker 5: You can't tell in November and December exactly where it
Speaker 5: is because you don't know how healthy you're going to
Speaker 5: be and how healthy the other team is going to be.
Speaker 4: In a perfect world, most coaches will tell the team,
Speaker 4: if we can just go three and one each quarter,
Speaker 4: that'll put us in a situation to not only get
Speaker 4: into the playoffs, but it puts your clothes to being
Speaker 4: able to compete for the number one seed. So if
Speaker 4: we think about those stretches that are tough, if you
Speaker 4: go three and one, two and two, and then down
Speaker 4: the stretch those last six games where you feel like
Speaker 4: you should be able to win because you have two
Speaker 4: games against Tennessee Arrival, then the rest of the two
Speaker 4: other division games, and then you have the Jets and
Speaker 4: the Raiders. That should set you up to really get
Speaker 4: hot playing your best football down the stretch.
Speaker 1: And so it's a marathon, not a sprint.
Speaker 4: No matter how it starts, there's still going to be
Speaker 4: plenty of time to make it up for it at.
Speaker 1: The end of the year.
Speaker 2: As we look at that home stretch you mentioned Jets
Speaker 2: at Raiders, Titans and Colts. Obviously depends where they are,
Speaker 2: and you know, if they're out of all it's not great,
Speaker 2: it's good, then it's great, But always on the road
Speaker 2: at the end there at Indianapolis. That'll be depending TVD
Speaker 2: on the time and everything, whether it be primetime or not,
Speaker 2: depending on what that game means at that point. But
Speaker 2: as we mentioned, four of the six divisional games are
Speaker 2: right in the last you know, six weeks there. As
Speaker 2: we look ahead, I think we're going to discuss a
Speaker 2: little more schedule, but also Bucky's with us today, which
Speaker 2: we love, so we're gonna go over some fan questions
Speaker 2: with you, Bucky. Look, we know all the details, so thanks.
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Speaker 2: here on jag zam, we went over that schedule that's
Speaker 2: been out for about a week and it looks pretty challenging,
Speaker 2: but we're excited to get football underway for sure. Normally
Speaker 2: we do our fan questions with John Oser, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give John a break this week and we have
Speaker 2: buckying House. We're gonna get Bucky's thoughts on some things
Speaker 2: a little bit different perspective, so we always like to
Speaker 2: check in with Bucky. So, first off, we've been talking
Speaker 2: about Brian Thomas Junior, what he brings to the offense.
Speaker 2: We saw him out there and OTAs with Trevor yesterday.
Speaker 2: What are some realistic expectations for him in this first season.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a huge difference maker, even.
Speaker 4: As an inexperienced player playing on the perimeter with Trevor,
Speaker 4: he changes the dynamic in terms of being a deep
Speaker 4: ball threat, and this team for so long as had
Speaker 4: to play half court basketball where they're playing everything in
Speaker 4: that ten to fifteen yard box where they don't push
Speaker 4: the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: He gives them a guy that can stretch the field.
Speaker 4: He and gave Davis should allow the Jaguars to take
Speaker 4: the top off the defense. So I think it makes
Speaker 4: it more productive for Christian Kirk as an ingram, but
Speaker 4: I would anticipate him having maybe five or six touchdowns
Speaker 4: on the perimeter. But I think the thing to watch
Speaker 4: with him yards per catch average.
Speaker 1: If he's averaging sixteen.
Speaker 4: Plus yards per catch, then that means he's having enough
Speaker 4: big players to really sharesch the field and make defenses
Speaker 4: pay him, pay more attention to him.
Speaker 2: Do you think there'll be a big learning curve for
Speaker 2: him or do you think he'll be able to pick
Speaker 2: things up pretty quickly at this level.
Speaker 4: When I talk to people at LSU, they tell about
Speaker 4: he's one of the more gifted players that have come
Speaker 4: through there, and they said the difference between he and
Speaker 4: the neighbors my Elik neighbors had more of a dog
Speaker 4: competitive and mentality. But it was easy for Brian Thomas
Speaker 4: and so I anticipate that they'll put him in a
Speaker 4: situation where you have success, probably not ask him to
Speaker 4: do a lot early, kind of put him in one
Speaker 4: position and let him just grow from there.
Speaker 1: I think they'll find a way to get him up
Speaker 1: and going quickly.
Speaker 5: Is he good enough that sometime in his career it
Speaker 5: will be easy for him at this level?
Speaker 4: I mean, he looks really talented when you watch him
Speaker 4: bounce around on the turf. I mean it, like seventeen
Speaker 4: touchdowns at LSU is not easy to do when you
Speaker 4: have someone who's also a number.
Speaker 1: One pick on the other side.
Speaker 4: Like that speaks volumes to his ability to go get
Speaker 4: it and very much like the guy that Trevor played
Speaker 4: with at Clemson, T Higgins. We haven't seen that kind
Speaker 4: of receiver here, A big stretch receiver that has the
Speaker 4: speed to take the top off but also can be
Speaker 4: a factor in the red zone.
Speaker 1: He's something that we haven't had. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: think of a receiver that we've had.
Speaker 4: I know Alan Robinson was a bigger receiver, but not
Speaker 4: as fast, but it's been a while since.
Speaker 1: I can't think of a Jaguars receiver.
Speaker 5: We only got to have with Frichard Williams, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean eighty two is the only guy did Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean like that's it and I don't want to
Speaker 4: put those expectations on them, but we really haven't seen
Speaker 4: one like that.
Speaker 6: So whatever numbers he puts up, uh, people are gonna
Speaker 6: lock in on the numbers. I think, no matter what,
Speaker 6: his floor for this team this season is the thread
Speaker 6: of him, defenses are gonna have to pay attention and
Speaker 6: or he's gonna score touchdowns. So he'd be taking away
Speaker 6: numbers wise, but he's gonna be one of a handful
Speaker 6: of guys.
Speaker 7: That you have to pay attention to.
Speaker 2: Defensively open it up for everybody else. Our second fan
Speaker 2: question for you, Bucky. We've been talking a lot about
Speaker 2: the offensive line in the off season. That was something
Speaker 2: that needs to be addressed. Do you feel the team
Speaker 2: has done enough to address the offensive line issues from
Speaker 2: last year the TBD?
Speaker 4: We don't know what I'm doing in the bads on
Speaker 4: like it sounds great now that you know you bring
Speaker 4: Mitch Moore say in at center. He's a veteran guy,
Speaker 4: Kim Robinson comes back and all those things, but health
Speaker 4: and durability, I mean that that's an issue like, if
Speaker 4: they're healthy and available, it's going.
Speaker 1: To be great because when we say, hey, they.
Speaker 4: Just trusted that the veteran guys came back and they're
Speaker 4: gonna play at a high level. But if it does,
Speaker 4: you didn't addres him with a high pick. You just
Speaker 4: want to antw with Brandon Share the right guard. You
Speaker 4: just wonder, Okay, what can we get from him because
Speaker 4: he has to play well because right now some would
Speaker 4: say that he might be the weaker link on this office.
Speaker 5: Want to be very played with that ankle for most
Speaker 5: of the year last year, and you needed him. You
Speaker 5: didn't have any depth whatsoever for that side. So hopefully
Speaker 5: Morse and Cleveland are strong enough that you know he
Speaker 5: is able to stay healthy and have a very productive
Speaker 5: year inside well.
Speaker 7: Things people are questioning are fair questions.
Speaker 6: Brandon Sheriff has been a wonderful player in the league.
Speaker 6: Injuries have kept him from being one hundred percent his
Speaker 6: two years here. He's in his tenth year. Cam Robinson
Speaker 6: has been out swaths of time the last two years,
Speaker 6: and then Mitch Morris is a tenth year guy. To me,
Speaker 6: I think the line looks fantastic on paper. My only
Speaker 6: concern is you've got ten year guy, ten year guy
Speaker 6: in cam three of those five spots. Can this grew
Speaker 6: play what you know, get through the season missing ten
Speaker 6: total games, which would have you it'd be a pretty
Speaker 6: high participation rate. If they can do that, it's a
Speaker 6: good line. If not all of a sudden death becomes
Speaker 6: a factor.
Speaker 9: They've addressed it in the short term for sure.
Speaker 5: Long term, obviously, they passed in the first round on
Speaker 5: a tackle in a year that they have two tackles
Speaker 5: going into the final year of their contract, So it's
Speaker 5: gonna be an issue next year as well.
Speaker 9: Whether they got it done for this year or not,
Speaker 9: we'll see in training camp.
Speaker 2: Were you surprised they didn't allocate any of the draft
Speaker 2: picks going to the offensive line or just knowing what
Speaker 2: was available this year.
Speaker 4: So if you didn't address it in the first round,
Speaker 4: it was a huge gap turning of those guys. So
Speaker 4: if you didn't take it early, then it becomes a problem.
Speaker 4: And look, you decide you want to go and get
Speaker 4: the playmaker, and so you believe that to help the
Speaker 4: quarterback more. It's the perimeter player more so than protecting them.
Speaker 4: So it just puts more pressure on Trevors Lawrence to
Speaker 4: be able to get the ball out of his hands quickly,
Speaker 4: and if he does, the offensive line looks traight. So
Speaker 4: we've seen quarterbacks play with suspect offensive lines and have success,
Speaker 4: But it's more on the quarterback being able to get
Speaker 4: it out of his hands and make the right.
Speaker 1: Decision for sure.
Speaker 2: Our final fan question today is kind of a little
Speaker 2: bit because we know you do a deep dive into
Speaker 2: all of these players. Are there any standouts among the
Speaker 2: undrafted free agents or maybe the low round picks that
Speaker 2: you've got your eye on.
Speaker 4: Oh, I would say Joshua se is the guy that
Speaker 4: kind of stands out. And the only reason is we're
Speaker 4: talking about the perimeter players and bigger players and can
Speaker 4: we find someone that can expand the strikes on for
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. But Joshua Siefer certainly can do that. Then
Speaker 4: six y three, he's bigg and when you watch them
Speaker 4: move around, he catches the ball very naturally easy catcher.
Speaker 4: And I just think about the depth and at one
Speaker 4: point last year the Tampa Bay game and just who
Speaker 4: you were trying out there because the receivers are hurt.
Speaker 4: Can you find someone that can make contributions right away.
Speaker 1: That is a quick.
Speaker 4: Learner that can just learn off minimum reps, meaning if
Speaker 4: early in the season he's not in the rotation, but
Speaker 4: he's on the practice field and just kind of getting
Speaker 4: his opportunities there.
Speaker 1: But then you move him up, can he make it
Speaker 1: happen without it being too much for him?
Speaker 4: So you're hoping that Siphus can find a way to
Speaker 4: make a roster and then eventually become a contributor.
Speaker 5: What would be the difference betwen him and Elijah Cooks
Speaker 5: who was in that position last year.
Speaker 1: Nah, there's no instance. It just kind of comes out.
Speaker 4: It comes down to production and production in the preseason
Speaker 4: and training camp. Elijah coach costs the balls at the
Speaker 4: end of the year, certainly has the size that you're
Speaker 4: looking for. But now it's about he when we get
Speaker 4: into a competitive environment and everyone knows that we have
Speaker 4: a handful of guys playing for two spots, who is
Speaker 4: consistent because that's the thing that we've talked about, consistency,
Speaker 4: not only in production, but in knowing what you're supposed
Speaker 4: to do, when you're supposed to do it, and how
Speaker 4: you're supposed to do it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bucky for your wisdom. We love that, we
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Coming up after the break, we're gonna see
Speaker 2: a teas for the latest episode of The Hunts. Will
Speaker 2: stick with us.
Speaker 9: It's a hard business and you're gonna be right, you're
Speaker 9: gonna be wrong every season.
Speaker 1: We are responsible for evaluating every single player.
Speaker 9: You have to take a hard look at at at
Speaker 9: the good and bad.
Speaker 8: You know, you're.
Speaker 4: Always looking for leaders, You're always looking for winners, steals.
Speaker 5: This guy make us faster, It doesn't make us tougher,
Speaker 5: doesn't make us a smarter football teams.
Speaker 4: Each person takes the information that they've had available to
Speaker 4: them and they come with an opinion.
Speaker 9: If you're working in unison, the better you're.
Speaker 1: Going to be.
Speaker 9: It's a pressure field situation.
Speaker 1: If you're not taking a serious why shouldn't take you serious?
Speaker 1: You know you're a scout for football, but you're also
Speaker 1: a scouting a person.
Speaker 9: The draft is our super Bowl. Right the board is
Speaker 9: starting to fall.
Speaker 5: It's either fall in your rear, it's not.
Speaker 1: I always think that's gone.
Speaker 9: You know, sometimes just finding the dance partners.
Speaker 1: Definitely, you can't win every trade.
Speaker 9: It isn't always about the points that still.
Speaker 2: Want the player or not.
Speaker 1: You called it In.
Speaker 2: That new episode of The Hunt's coming out tonight at seven.
Speaker 2: It's all about the pre draft process, everything that goes
Speaker 2: into that, and of course the draft that came out
Speaker 2: as well and the results of that. So a lot
Speaker 2: of behind the scenes action, a lot of detail. It
Speaker 2: will be a good episode to check out for sure.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you joining us here on DAGs am As.
Speaker 2: We'll check in with you again next week as OTAs continue,
Speaker 2: and Bucky, thank.
Speaker 1: You for joining us.
Speaker 4: No, I love it, We do.
Speaker 2: Love Oka great for we learn a lot. Bye, guys,
Speaker 2: thank you