WEBVTT - Ep. 72: Is a Trevor Lawrence Extension Imminent? | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:18.200 Welcome to Jacksam. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.000 I'm Kindannie Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.160 me today. We also have a special guests because Okah 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.280 kicked off yesterday. Football is back here in Jacksonville and 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.160 we're excited to get to talk a little bit football 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.760 as to get ready for the upcoming season. Big thing 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.800 number one, no depth chart. We talked to defensive coordinator 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.360 Ryan Nielsen yesterday as he implements his new defense. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:38.080 He said he's. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.839 Really looking at each individual player and not trying to 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.519 pigeonhole them into any one position. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.680 We're still in that process of moving guys around. The 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.120 more you can do, you know, and I think you 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:50.680 can play a lot of years in this league if 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.080 you can do more jobs. And so we don't want 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:54.880 to just pigeonhole guys right now. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.160 And hey, this is this. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.000 But now there are certain guys on our defense that 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.920 you know are going to play a certain position. You know, 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.160 Davon Hamilton, he's gonna play defensive tackle. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:04.000 We know that, right. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.280 But some of these guys that can play two or 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.039 three positions, we're gonna put him at these different positions 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.400 and in these OTAs. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.959 It's a great opportunity to see what guys can do. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.560 Now's the time to start implementing all that new defense, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.840 get everybody comfortable with it. Time to welcome in our 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.119 guest as well. Bucky Brooks is with us today. Bucky, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.560 what's this new defense gonna look like? 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.640 Well, look, I mean I think so so I used 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.120 to be here. Uh look, I think the defense is 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.759 gonna be dynamic, it's gonna be hybrid, but it's gonna 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.360 be very very simple for the players to kind of 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:40.160 get used to. When you talk to the players after practice, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.720 they talked about simple they've made, how the coach have 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.080 done a really good job of clearing everything up. When 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.760 you talk to Ryan Neilson, he talked about kind of 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.080 playing musical chairs, having multiple guys learn multiple spots until 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.160 everyone gets comfortable, and then putting the best eleven out there. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.080 I thought it was very apparent during practice. They moved 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.680 around fast, they understood what to do, and there was 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.920 very clear sense of what everyone was doing. And I 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.160 think that is an upgrade over what was happening in 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:04.720 previous years. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.440 About you use the word clear and said that they understood. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.760 My impression of Ryan Nielsen is is that there's no 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.679 ambiguity at all. He's a great communicator. And when he 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.400 stood in front of us yesterday and explained why and 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.640 how things were going to be done in OTAs and 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.240 then how it would be different in the training camp 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.519 and how it would evolve, I mean he led a 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.079 very clear picture. So for a new system that will 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.120 require some new players to figure it all out, I 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.200 give these guys a great opportunity because I thought Ryan 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.640 Nielsen did an excellent job of explaining it. And if 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.760 he can explain it to the media, and he can 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.840 certainly get the point across to his players. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.120 Yeah, I think the fascinating storyline of OTAs and in 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.959 a training camp is going to be exactly where guys 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.440 line up and fans have been writing me for months 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.239 how's this going to look? And I've been leaning on 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.279 Bucky because he keeps saying, Look, it is not necessarily 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.200 going to be a four to three defense. I think 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.280 Ryan Nielsen got into that a little bit yesterday. Uh, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.639 And I think we're gonna see as the next few 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:10.639 weeks play out that it is more of a hybrid. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.600 Then maybe the term hybrid has been used a lot 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.080 with defenses the NFL. I think Jaguars fans are about 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.280 to see it. But you know it's number one in 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:21.720 the depth chart. That mustache, Oh that is. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.680 Number one starter quality. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.120 Devon Hamilton plays tackle, that mustache plays right next to it. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.880 R real quick like, And in talking to Andre Cisco 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.840 after practice, he just talked about just the clarity and 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.240 I I really wanna hammer that because he just talked 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.600 about how and talking to Chris Shard and just how 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.680 clear it is what everyone is going to be asked 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:41.960 to do. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.400 Felt like maybe there was. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.280 A little great area last year and when you're uncertain 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.280 you can't play fast, it appears that everyone is like 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.080 dialed into Hey, let's make it very black or white, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:52.480 so the. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.480 Guys can play fast. They don't have to think a lot. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.600 And when if you if you're playing fast and aggressive, 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:57.480 that's when the good things happen. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:58.080 On defense. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.040 Let's look at offenses. Well, that's something we've been talking 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.840 about one heartbeat. We talked to the offensive line yesterday. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.640 Obviously not too physical at this time of practice because 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.840 they're still in OTAs, but Mitch Morris, the new center 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:11.960 for this team, talked about kind of getting on the 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.440 same page with everyone in the group. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.320 Some of the best offensive lines I've seen have been physical, yes, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.800 but they've all worked in unison together, so it'll all 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.120 be kind of working as I don't know, one heart beats, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.919 kind of thrown around a bit, but all having the 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:30.160 same one heart beat and kind of working together. And 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.400 that's what the great thing about it, too is we're 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.240 going to figure out how to do that. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:34.479 Brian. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.440 We talked a lot about this offensive line and the 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.400 changes they need to make. This is a crucial time 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.800 of year. Kind of get everybody on the same page. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.960 It is, and he talks about the one heartbeat. He 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.280 is the heartbeat, he's the center, and bringing him in 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.479 to try to make things more productive in the middle 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.599 than they were last year, Bucky, but also to get 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.479 everybody communicating. And the offense finds an interesting group because 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.359 you know, Anton Harrison is going to be one starter. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.200 What are you gonna do at left tackle? I mean, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:03.240 Walker Little is a. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.719 Guy who's been getting accolades this spring for the way 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.599 that he's approached his job. Cam Robinson's been a long 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.080 time starter out there. You got a lot of pieces 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.880 the Tyler Shantley moved to bring him back. Maybe it's 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.760 a flag, Maybe it's not that they don't know that 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.560 they have great depth. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.680 Reguard Well, I mean, I mean, I think what you're 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.800 trying to do is you're trying to have enough depth that, like, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.240 given the injury situation last year that you had, you 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:26.520 want to. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.160 Make sure that you have enough guys that can play 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:29.000 at a high level. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.520 I think what's interesting in both parts we talked about 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.000 defense and offense, the communication is critical. The communication of 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.520 the offensive line will certainly help because you have everyone back, 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.840 and that position is a function of all guys being 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.200 on the same page, all five guys understanding what the 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.040 people beside them are doing. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.360 And when you have an opportunity to have Cam Robinson. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.560 Back, you think Ezra Cleveland coming back, Mitch Morris being 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.000 a veteran center who's used to making all the calls 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.520 and adjustments, Brandon Sheriffin, and Anton Harrison. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.400 You have an opportunity to have a really good group 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.159 and the solid up front. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.120 Then the offense has a chance to realize some of 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.279 the potential that we thought we would see last season. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.359 Yeah, I think you're back to having good depth to 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.840 tackle man. Cam Robbins's gonna start. You wouldn't bring him 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.720 back not to start. I think the key with Mitch Morse, 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.360 the theme all off season and listening to Doug talk 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.640 about the free agents is guys who have been there 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.000 in one. This is not a knock on Luke Fordner, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.280 He's a second or thirty year guy beyond anything physically. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.880 Mitch Morse is the guy in the center of the 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.720 line who has been there in one sort of personifies 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.760 that for the offensive line and maybe the whole offense. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.680 Setting the tone for sure. Our final big thing today 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.560 is going to be contract talks. Doug Peterson weighed in 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.680 on whether or not he's hoping Trevor gets his extension 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.200 done sooner rather than later. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.280 Obviously the sooner you get it done, right, it's just behind. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.560 Everybody and now we focus on football, and so that's 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:55.599 not lingering, and that's. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.640 Not out there. You know, I know Trent his agent. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.720 Excuse me, they've continued to talk and we'll talk and 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:07.360 they're working hard and tirelessly, and and you know, I. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.400 Just got to got to coach Trevor and coach football, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.280 and hopefully he gets done with. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:14.240 John. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.040 I know we talk about this contract pretty much every 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.680 single week, but we got a little more out of 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.000 Doug than we normally do. I'm sure he would like 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.120 things done sooner than later, just so he stops getting 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:22.680 asked about it. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.480 Yeah, I mean, I think he's okay with being asked 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:30.800 about He gets it. He's a quarterback. He knows the drill. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.400 I think the feeling I have, and I think, Brian, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.920 you agree, it's going to get done for the season. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:43.880 History tells us Joe Burrow Mahomes the big quarterback deals 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.120 sometime in the summer of the third off season, when 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.600 they're eligible, they get done. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.320 Why isn't it done now? Because it's a mega deal. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.480 It's complicated, and there's all sorts of things that you 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.320 have to make fit under the cap, not just for 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.720 this year, not just for next year, but in the future. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.200 Ye were of building your CAP's house, the foundation house 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:08.040 with Treylor Lawrence, and he gets done. I keep getting 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.520 emails well that they better not make Trevor the highest pace. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.920 Well, better buckle up. It's not right. 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:14.200 Hey. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.200 Look, everything I keep hearing is is that it's not 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.160 quite done, but imminent. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:19.360 It's not the right word. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.680 But don't be surprised if they've got it ready to 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.280 go any day or when training camp begins, it's obviously 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.600 something they put a lot of work into. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.080 At this point, Brian, there's no hurry on that, and 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.920 that's why it takes a while to get done. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.120 There's no reason to rush it. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.440 Well, they should golf ride. Your golf's done. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.520 And the only one that bucket that I think is 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.720 still out there that might be of interest to them 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.920 as two of and his deal, and he's reported to 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.040 OTAs he was not in the initial stages of the 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.000 off season program in Miami, but he's one of those 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.960 guys who was drafted a year in front of Trevor, 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.640 and maybe they're waiting just to see where that goes, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.960 to see how that impacts the market. Because there is 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.360 no pressure on them to get this done at any 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.280 particular date. They've still got the fifth year option. If 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.760 it stretches into the season, they've got. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.880 Time and the gap set buck I mean, yeah, they 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:07.400 have time. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.880 But let's just know that the market only goes up, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.160 it doesn't come up. Yeah, and the sooner they can 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.280 get it done, the better it's gonna be. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:14.079 Economically. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.160 Down the road, Well, we do know the deal is 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.000 probably gonna come in at well over fifty million annually. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.120 That's just gonna be the going rate for the quarterback. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.360 When you think about Jerry Goff getting fifty three to 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.520 a tongue of our lawyer's going to be in their range, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.439 and that is going to kind of set the parameters 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.560 of the deal that Trevor Science. In a perfect world, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.480 you would like to get it done before to a 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.400 Science is because whatever Tua gets, he's going to want 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:35.680 a little more over top. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.240 So hopefully they can get this done. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.559 But Jaguars fans have to get comfortable with the fact 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.720 that you're gonna have the phisitey million dollar quarterback and 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.280 how that's going to change the way that you build 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:44.120 out the rest of your team. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.360 That's an interesting point because from this point forward, now 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.360 your draft picks become much more important. The Jaguars have 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.080 never had that mega cap hit from a quarterback that 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.760 restricts what they do in free agency. It means you've 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.600 got to be much more effective, much better at drafting 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.120 and developing guys, because this guy now is going to 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.520 be ten, twelve, fourteen percent. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:04.720 Of your cap. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.720 Yeah, it changes the dynamic and the team building structure, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.160 but you're still gonna be able to be active in 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.199 free agency. It's just you're gonna have just a handful 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.000 of guys making a lot of money, and then you've 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:14.719 got to have a lot of. 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.240 Young players on cheap contracts making the rest of them 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.480 my draft and develop, draft and develop. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.959 Stay with us here on jags Am. Coming up. The 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.960 schedule came out last Wednesday. We're gonna go over some 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:31.720 of the big games on the schedule. Move the freight, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.600 Move the freight, Magellan Transportation. Go to the coolest office 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.880 space in Jacksonville. You can apply online at www dot 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:42.199 Magellan Logistics dot com. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.360 Injuries are more mentally challenging than anything. It's just your 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.880 mental but it could kind of callas your mind into 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.240 you know, putting yourselves in uncomfortable situations and push them through. 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.760 Like I said, adversity. But I'm just excited. Got a 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.640 chip on my shoulder, just uh, you're ready to wake 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.920 some people back up and you know, remind them that 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.760 type of player that I am and will supportingly just 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.960 have a positive impact on this team and help us 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:05.280 get to. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:05.880 Where we want to be. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.640 That's Christian Kirk, Welcome back to jag Zam. He's working 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760 his way back. He had that groin injury. People were 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.160 hopeful if they made the playoffs he would be able 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.280 to come back and play. Obviously he wasn't able to 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.240 do that because we didn't make the playoffs. But he 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.240 was just talking a little bit about kind of rehabing 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.559 and what that process is like. Obviously he feels a 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.480 lot of pressure on himself seeing the way the team 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.240 ended the season and he wasn't able to be a 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.480 part of that. Just getting back on track, especially when 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:31.720 you haven't played football in a while. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:32.880 Yeah, it's tough. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.760 It's tough coming back because as confident as you are 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.520 as a player, you've done this for a long time, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.839 you still have those doubts when you're hurting and you 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.640 set out with a significant injury like he has. But 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.600 I think it's also trying to find the rhythm, like 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.280 his rhythm with Trevor, his rhythm with Evan Ingram, and 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:48.760 how all the pieces of the puzzle fit in the 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.280 passing game. And there's been some conversation like he's kind 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.400 of been dismissed by outsiders in terms of like can 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.160 he'd be the number one receiver in this passing game? 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.719 Him had every even kind of co sharing that role 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.480 so well. He has a lot to prove. He has 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.360 a lot that he wants to prove to the outside public, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.200 but more importantly to his teammates, that he can't carry 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.079 the load as the lever suit. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.840 I wonder if people appreciate how consistent he is right 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.319 the way that he spoke right there is the way 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.320 that he speaks after win, after a loss, after a 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.600 good game, after a bad game. He's just a constant 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.600 but professional, and not having him on the field in 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.880 the huddle didn't help anybody late last year, let alone, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.839 is production what he means. He's such a professional, He's 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.720 worth every penny of what the Jaguars paid for. The 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.800 type of player in person he is in that locker room. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:36.600 Yeah, I think because we talk about these things so much, We. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.439 Tweet about him so much, Bucky and I would do. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.880 I had a lot of podcasts here in a few minutes, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.440 and everybody gets locked into verbiage these days. Is he 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.000 a number one receiver? Is he an alpha? Is he 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:50.280 a WR one? 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:51.240 Look? 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.120 I don't know what Christian Kirk's WR number is, but 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.760 I know he's got to be on the field, and 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.559 I know that without him the offense is not the same. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:05.040 So is he a WR one is that even necessary. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.080 I know, I don't want to watch this team play 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:08.559 very much if he's not on the field anymore. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.600 I will say this, like going back to last year, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.600 Doug talked about the wide receivers in the passing game 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.160 and he said, this is a passing game that doesn't 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.960 necessarily need a defined number one that if the quarterback 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.640 plays at a high level, you can get away with 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.319 winning with. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.559 A bunch of B plus receivers on the perimeter. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:24.840 And that's not to say that you don't have a 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.480 dominant guy, but if you have very good wide receivers 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.280 on the perimeter, you can make it happen. I think 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.640 the thing that is apparent everyone that is on the 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.959 field on the outside, they need to be high IQ 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.320 guys who can be consistent, like you talked about, know 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.200 exactly where the line up to do some of the 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.520 interchangeability that we've seen in the past. Those things have 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.400 to be a part of the equation. Christian Kirk is 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.360 one of the guys that can do all of those things, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:46.319 which is why he's so. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.559 Critical to the offense exciting and hopefully we saw two 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.560 seasons ago they were able to do that with a 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.520 different kind of wide receiver group, so maybe they'll try 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.520 to employ some of that this season as well. I 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.960 do want to talk about the schedule that came out 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.240 last Wednesday. I think everybody's kind of familiar with that, 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.240 but maybe gold are some of the big games, because 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.360 there's at least two very tough stretches that I think 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.680 we both pointed kind of to start and then about 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.600 midway through. So let's start off with those first four games, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.760 because that's quite the gauntlet right out of the gate. Brian, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.080 I know you think that game against Miami is gonna 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.240 be really a big tone setter for them. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.000 Well, it is because we've been talking so much and 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.880 we'll continue to about Ryan Nielsen's defense in the way 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.160 that they have fortified it up front to get after 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.560 the passer, and how they hope that these corners can 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.360 play that press style. Bucky, You're going against the number 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.000 one passing team in the league last year and the 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.160 biggest down the field threats. I mean, I understand justin 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.120 Jefferson and what he means and the guy in Cincinnati, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.160 but Tyreek Hill changes the dynamic just by being on 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:42.640 the field. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.480 What a test for your defense in Week one I mean, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.800 here's test. I mean you talk about the best pass 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.640 catch in the group that we will see. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.080 I mean you're talking about not only Tyreek Hill, but 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:52.840 Javin Waddall. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:53.400 Combined. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.479 Those guys combined for eighty seven players of over twenty yards. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.480 So he's didn't bring obj in. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.680 As the wide receiver. You're hoping that your third corner 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.480 can match up. They can create a lot of problems 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.920 with their speed and quickness, and so it's going to 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.560 be really not about the secondary. It's gonna be about 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.600 the pass rush up front. Can they affect a quarterback? 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.120 Can they change the time into the passen? 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.360 Yeah, I think the pass rush is gonna be absolutely kiy. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.560 I've got a lot of questions about, well, are they 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:25.080 gonna be on the same page going into Miami. I 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.200 think it's fair to expect some mental breakdowns in that 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.120 game because it's your first time playing against each playing 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:31.720 with each other. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.560 The way to cover that is to get it for 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:36.080 the quarterback. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.600 Another big one in those first five games is gonna 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.440 be Monday Night football at Buffalo. There's two primetime games 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.760 for the Jags this year, but they're both on the road. John, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.360 when you look at a road game in Buffalo. I mean, 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.360 Buffalo has had a lot of changes in the offseason. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.560 Is this a game where maybe they could try to 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:51.720 steal a win in primetime? 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.160 Well, I don't think they'll talk about it in those turns. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.360 They've beaten the Bills two times in a row. Absolutely, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.640 I think the Bills will be talking about trying to 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:07.800 get that fixed. Look Buffalo, you can say they're in transition, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.240 but they've got a quarterback who can break tackles when 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:12.200 five guys are on them. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.080 So he's a special guy. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:19.360 They believe that he's Mahomes Burrow, that guy that they 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.240 can make changes around him. And they're still elite. So 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.360 I don't expect the Buffalo game to be easy. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.000 We'll talk about it more. It's my game to watch 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:28.560 on the schedule. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.960 I think it's interesting because of the environment for a 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.640 young team, right for Doug's team that's trying to get 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:38.000 itself on track early Buffalo on Monday Night. Thankfully it's 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.520 in September and not in late December. But Buffalo, Bucky 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.640 Monday Night. You played there, you understand, I mean that 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.760 place just it comes apart at the seams on Monday 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:46.360 Night football. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.640 Yeah, but I actually think it's a great opportunity for 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.240 the Jaguars kind of permitted themselves. Like those first two games, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.800 you kind of get the Kings out. You talk about 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.280 Miami in Cleveland, but going on the role playing Buffalo 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.440 on a Monday night in front of like a primetime 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.520 audience that is going to be a huge with the 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.440 Texans the next week. It's an opportunity for them to 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.280