1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't think guys care about the boobs, right, like 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: like size small to big, Like. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: That's literally all I fucking have. Okay, by the way, 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: just talking about the nothing. Okay, so you just fucking 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: hype up the boobs and say I love your boobs. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: I think the boobs are prime and better than ever. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Let's just wait. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I want to I want to do 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: something because usually we do affirmation on our show. Can 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: you affirm Adam some things that you love about him? 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: His physical his physical appearance. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: M h. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: M hm. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm Neil. 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: Happy Wednesday. 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday, guys. 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 5: You guys were in New York City still and we 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 5: have some og guests with us. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 4: It's been a fucking minute. 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 5: We're just gonna get straight into it because I'm tired 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 5: of hearing you guys complain on YouTube that we don't 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: introduce our guests fast enough. And secondly, I'm just so 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: fucking excited to have you guys, because I'm drunk now 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 5: thanks to you from our last episode. This Month's Guide 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: This month, this month's name is a Good Mom's Guide 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: to Everything and my Bad Choice of the day is 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: getting drunk before recording with you. So I haven't really 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 5: eate like earlier. We were on the Today Show and 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: I think Miela went to go eat. 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: I did not. 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: I just went back to bed and laid down. And 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: all I had was pistachiossos in your room too. I 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 5: bought them downstairs in the hotel lobby. And so I've 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 5: I've had pistachios and tequila today and I've already cried 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: on your episode. 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to really try. I don't know, maybe I'll 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: cry to what I knows. 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 5: I'm really feeling in my feelings, but like I got 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: to get some shit off my chest. But I'm just 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: really excited to introduce marriage and Martini's Danielle and Adam 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: back to the show. The last time we were on 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 5: our show was. 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: Did we do it? Did we do a? 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: No? 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: We only did one episode, but it was just yours. 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: Yeah there you haven't yeah, Adam, there, I forgot we 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 6: did that episode. 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: You weren't there. 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: Did cheated on you, Adam? 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: But I went to l A with you. 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Right after that New York and we met up and 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: did it an episode, but you weren't there. 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 5: But the last time you guys were on our show 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 5: was the first year of podcasting for us, and it's 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 5: been a minute, and you guys trusted us. 57 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: You came to a stranger's home in the valley and. 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we let you get us wasted in your not 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: knowing where we. 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: Were was a line for my lime Tree mixed. 61 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: Two runs to the store for a full size bottle 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: was a Tito's like a five hour span. We had 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: a great time, though, Yeah, we did. 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I remember about that night 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: was the Lime Tree. 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 5: So do we have like professional cameras for this because 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 5: we're like, this is I don't know, but I remember 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 5: like it was like it was like the most high 69 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 5: end video of production we've ever done at that point. 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we all spoken to one Yetti mic. 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is the most accurate. 72 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: All speaking into one mic. 73 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: All I got is one mic. 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: You guys don't still use Yetti's, right, Yeah. 75 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: Graduated to shore mics. We haven't shout out to David. 76 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: He's upgraded our life and we have our Now we 77 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: have a podcast studio in La that we all have 78 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: individual mics, but we're actually sitting in our homegirls studio 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 5: right now. Shout out to Mandy and her studio, Full 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: Court Studios in Brooklyn for graciously letting us use her place. 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: But no, we've we've advanced our our technologicals podcasting experience. 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: They got to our community for like sticking in there 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: because some. 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: Real rough episodes. 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, people start listening to ours from the first one 86 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: and we'll message us and be like I started listening 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: to at the beginning and I'm like, and you're still here. 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 89 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't even thank you. We didn't know. 90 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 6: Bitch bought us a mic. Like a few episodes in 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 6: she bought us I don't know. 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: I think the first episode we thought it was going 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: to be a test, so there was no mic. Within 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: the second episode, we ordered some mics from Amazon, and 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: then Nisha bought us the Yetti that we'd. 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: Use for many years. 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: Okay, but I mean garage Band was doing what it 98 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: needed to do. 99 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you want to hear the message. 100 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 6: I think we even gave up on sometimes the mikes 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: weren't working, so we just like fuck it. 102 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: A lot of shit wasn't working, and here our kids 103 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: in the background, and we were stalking people through other 104 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: other podcast Ever. 105 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: Re recorded an episode, because in the beginning, we would 106 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: record an episode and be like, we're not releasing that 107 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: ship heard it. I think our first episode we recorded 108 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: like four times. 109 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: That is the first one. 110 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that's the beauty of our podcast. We 111 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: literally thought no one was listening and we literally didn't care. Actually, 112 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: our first episode was supposed to be a test, but 113 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: it was an hour and a half long, and we 114 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: were like, I'm not about to do this shit again. 115 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: I have kids. 116 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: I was like, okare just put this one on. 117 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: This one seems good. Yeah, we did it, and then 118 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: after that like we've literally like I want to say, 119 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: zero point five percent. 120 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 5: The only time we've ever semi recorded an episode was 121 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 5: because maybe the mic failed and then we had to 122 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: go back and try to reimagine what we spoke about. 123 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: Or the guests had a problem, and even then we're like. 124 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 5: I don't know, have you ever had any guests that 125 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 5: were like, can I hear the episode? 126 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: Can you take this out? Actually, just last week, you 127 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: do an episode, can we record it? 128 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: No? 129 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: We do not let you. We said, look, while we're recording, 130 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: if you hear if we say something, or you say 131 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: something that you don't like, do. 132 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: You make them sign things? Because I was like, make 133 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: these host signes. 134 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: We did a podcast one not professional. 135 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: You're more professional than us because you're the first people 136 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: who like gave us your like press kid, You're like, yeah, 137 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: look at it. Like literally, Danielle was like all arms, 138 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: like she's like, what do you need? I can Dale, 139 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 3: I would still be of course, and in our eyes 140 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: we were just like like we didn't know shit, and 141 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: we're like, Danielle, help us. 142 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: You know, the podcasting. 143 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 5: Space surprisingly, I mean maybe not surprisingly because of you know, 144 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: our friendship and how how it happened, but it really 145 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: like solidified or reinvigorated my trust in women. I have 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 5: had such amazing interactions with women in the podcasting space, 147 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: so many helpful people along the way that have supported 148 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 5: our journey without wanting anything in return, including the person's 149 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 5: who studio I'm in at this moment and it's been amazing, 150 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 5: and you are one of those women. So thank you, 151 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 5: like very very early on too. 152 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: That's the only way to get it done. 153 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 154 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, what the fuck am I. 155 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 4: The body language is speaking? 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: I could be a prop. 157 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: I can just show you think about Adam is that 158 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: he's so like I have to say, you know how 159 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: many husbands would be like like when I asked him 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: about the podcast and starting the podcast, I would say 161 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: probably ninety eight maybe ninety nine percent of husbands would 162 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: be like are you fucking crazy? Right? But like, I 163 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: am so lucky and it has like if you if 164 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: your partner asks you to do something that seems crazy 165 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: but yet not crazy and like we're going to go 166 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: to jail kind of way, but in a crazy like 167 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: if this works, it will be fucking awesome and even 168 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, we'll enjoy it so much. Say 169 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: yes because him saying yes to our podcast saved our 170 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: entire relationship. Had he said no that night, we would 171 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: be divorced right now. 172 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: Not that was your solution. 173 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: And he didn't know, not because I say he didn't, 174 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Not because I would have said not. Because if I 175 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: had said no, we would be divorced, just because whatever. 176 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Since I said yes, what it's led to no? 177 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: He do you know? 178 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: That night? It would have been like, Okay, he absolutely 179 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: doesn't trust me. He doesn't want to tell our story. 180 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: He wants to just suppress it. I can't do that. 181 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: Well, That's why I love you guys. You guys are 182 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: like the married version of us, Like, because you guys 183 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: have been so transparent about your relationship and just the 184 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: ebbs and flows, the roommate phase, the lover phase, the 185 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 5: betrayal phase, the rebuilding phase, that I don't know what 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: the fuck we're doing phase. 187 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 6: You know. 188 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: And I think we have a lot of married people 189 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: that listen that I think, when I know, resonate with 190 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: that and are problem maybe in the thick of one 191 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: of those phases right now and wondering like should I 192 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: just leave this person? And like, you know, me and 193 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: Mila are not we're not real versed in marriage. We're 194 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: not We're like babies in relationships, essentially healthy ones at least, 195 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: And I think you guys are really a testament to, 196 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: you know, what it looks like to really ride the 197 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: wave of a relationship, because you know, people will look 198 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 5: at our show and say, oh, we're advocates from we 199 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 5: break up marriages, and we're like, if it doesn't serve. 200 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: You, fucking leave, And then I agree with that too, 201 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: and there is. 202 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 5: An element of that, but I also know that relationships 203 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 5: take work and like that it's not always going to 204 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 5: be perfect. But it's like who you want to be 205 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 5: imperfectly perfect with and like, who is it worth? 206 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: Who is it worth it? 207 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: It seems like you guys have found the worth the 208 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 5: worthiness in each other. 209 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean not only doing this podcast, I 210 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: almost feel like I'm in a woman's world, you know, 211 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: like I'm out here to save relationship, not safe, to 212 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: better relationship. 213 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 6: As Captain sabahoship, just to let. 214 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: You know that we're in it. You know, this is 215 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: our issues. People say, Hey, look, we're in the same situation. 216 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm in this world of women, you know, with the 217 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: interviews that we do. But what I found is I 218 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: get messages from men who are saying, hey, my wife 219 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: is saying, you know, I'm upset with her because of 220 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the same reasons women complain about their husbands or boyfriends 221 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. So we're finding doing this we're kind of 222 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: all intermeshed this in these problems together. Men have the 223 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: same issues that women do too, you know women, you know, 224 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I want to act the same as you know men 225 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: in these uncomfortable relationships, and you know, doing and saying things, 226 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: you know whatever, I'm just saying. Men are reaching out 227 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: to me saying they're having these issues too, you know, 228 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: And thanking me for being out there doing this because 229 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: it's not just women. You know, it's not just women 230 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: having issues of course. 231 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: You know, well, I think the problem is is that 232 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: we all have issues, But I mean men have a 233 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: much less open space to communicate their feelings and be 234 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: vulnerable open ladies. 235 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Well, guys don't go out with their guy friends and 236 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: be like, oh, hey, I'm upset because my wife, you know, 237 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: said so you know, we don't do that where I 238 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: think women get together and you know their stories are 239 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, bitch about their husbands or boyfriends or you know, 240 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: guys don't do that as far as I know, because 241 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: we don't have an outlet. 242 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: It's considered, it's considered like female behavior. 243 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 4: This is not gonna be popular amongst the women. I'm 244 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 4: just gonna go ahead and. 245 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: Say, well, I think that like men, they don't worry 246 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: as much as women, right, And I think that there's 247 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: a reason why men I this is. Don't quote me, 248 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: but I really think that men look younger than women 249 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 5: becallo they do hello because they literally just don't give 250 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: a fuck, like they they give a fuck, but they 251 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: give less a fuck than we do. They have like 252 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: almost no concept of time, and age well, which which 253 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 5: which then like they're not men are like not like, damn, 254 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 5: I'm turning forty five. 255 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: Like women are women exactly? There isn't so there's there is. 256 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 5: Yes, So there's this whole other thing happening in the 257 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 5: background called the patriarchy that we as women are you know, 258 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: have been, you know, conditioned to feed into. But I 259 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 5: think that because men are men just don't have the 260 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: same worries and so they I feel like, actually, I 261 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 5: think women do live longer, but. 262 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: The patriarchy makes men look younger. 263 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I'll share a story with you the vanity. 264 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 3: It's true when society is that against you, you're like, oh, 265 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: like walking on sunshine. But when you're constantly worried about 266 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: being a good mom or being a good wife, or 267 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: being like beautiful enough, is your body good enough? Or 268 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: is your pussy good enough? Or you have too many 269 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: just like too many dicks, or you said it online 270 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: like yeah, your face starts to like stress out. 271 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: The wrinkles come from my gray hairs that I have 272 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: a mask over the last five years. 273 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: It's true. I'll share a story with you that is 274 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: very interesting. So we did these whole we just series 275 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: about body image, right, because you know, in the last 276 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: couple of years, I gained a lot of weight, and 277 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: I was sort of trying to sit with it, right, 278 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: I was sort of trying to like be okay with 279 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: it because I was just fucking tired of I mean, 280 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: first of all, the amount of money I waste on 281 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: diets and this and that, and you know, our life 282 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: was like a little stressful, and and our marriage is 283 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: very root in fun, right, Like we love to go 284 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: out and drink and eat, like that's our thing. And 285 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: you know, I have to sort of say to myself, Okay, 286 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I can't go out and drink and 287 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: eat and not gain weight. But at the same time, 288 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: I want to go out and drink and eat and 289 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: have a great time with my husband because that's like 290 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: our favorite thing to do. 291 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: Right. 292 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: So there were all these things that were happening in 293 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: my life that I was like, I have to sort 294 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: of either relinquish the I gained all this weight, or 295 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to like go back to the 296 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: drawing board and be like, Okay, I'm going to figure 297 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: out how to lose the forty pounds, right, Like, those 298 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: are my two options. What am I doing? Am I 299 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: telling my husband. 300 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: No more fun? 301 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: We're not Yeah, we're not right. And that's sort of 302 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: what my my metabolism is. If you want to be thin, 303 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: no more fun, right your meal, prepping on Sundays for 304 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: the week, and you're you know, doing all these things right. 305 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: And Adam is the type of thing where you know, 306 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: same thing. I get messages all the time that you know, 307 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: I see in the comments, Oh are you his mom 308 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: or whatever? Like I see that shit in the comments. Look, 309 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: look when you have a relationship podcast and everything. Look, 310 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: our reviews, as much as most of them are glowing 311 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: and wonderful, the ones that aren't are she's the bitch 312 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: or she's the never is it about him? You know? 313 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: So so why would it be right? He's perfect, so 314 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, in my mind it's intimidating. 315 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: And when he drinks and eats asshole, well that's it. 316 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: So so you know, in my mind, I'm always like, okay, 317 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: so he is. You know, he's always been a very 318 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: good looking guy. It was always sort of like when 319 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: we got married, I had a great body and I 320 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: was you know, and I still love my body, I 321 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: really do. It's more like when I leave the house 322 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, what is everybody else? I love 323 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: my like I love everything about it, and I love 324 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: our relationship and the fun that we have. So, you know, 325 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: it's been a journey of am I going to accept 326 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: this or am I going to fight against it? And 327 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: so we did a bunch of body image episodes, which 328 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: actually wound up being like our most downloaded episodes ever. Wow. 329 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: And I did one myself first, being like, look, this 330 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: is my you know, so the perfect body has been 331 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: you know, like the mechanical rabbit going around the track, 332 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: and I have been, you know, the greyhounds constantly trying 333 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: to fucking catch that rabbit and I have never caught 334 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: it and I probably never will. And I'm fucking done, 335 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: you know, I'm done. And so when we did the 336 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: first body I asked him to listen to that. I 337 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: was like, you need to listen to this because that 338 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: is always on my mind, right, just like most women, 339 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: what are they thinking? Is he looking at my stomach? 340 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: What happens when he feels my stomach? What happens when 341 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm on top? What's happening? You know? Like which position 342 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: do I look best in? 343 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: You know? 344 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: All that stuff that's always on my mind, you know, 345 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: and like I love sex with us, I love our 346 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: sex life, and I want it to be good for 347 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: him too. So we so we did a body We 348 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: did two body Image episodes together, back to back, and 349 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: the first or second, I don't remember which one, I 350 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: said to him, so how do you feel? You know, 351 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: because he's not the most vocal guy in bed. This 352 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: is something that we've established on the podcast. If you listen, like, 353 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: he's not you know, I love dirty talk. He's not 354 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: talk now. 355 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 5: He tried. 356 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: He tried times. Yeah what. 357 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, he tries. So I said to him, 358 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: I want to know right now, what are you thinking 359 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: when I am on top or I am you know, 360 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: my stomach is you know, I've had three babies, three 361 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: c sections, four pregnancies, we had a miscarriage, all the things. 362 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: And he said, are you kidding me? I'm so busy 363 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: worrying about my own insecurities that I'm not even thinking 364 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: about yours. And I was floored. I mean when I 365 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: say floored, I never in a million years would have 366 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: thought that, right, Because the thing is always Adam's so 367 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: good looking. He looks so young, he looks so much 368 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: younger than you blah blah. So in my mind, as always, 369 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: if I compliment him, I am drawing attention to my 370 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: own negative problem areas and making him feel better about himself. 371 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: And maybe he's going to be like, wait a minute, 372 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm so much better looking than her, Maybe I should 373 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: be going off and getting myself something else. So so 374 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm always saying to him, you don't compliment me enough, 375 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: But I'm saying to myself, don't compliment him, because he's 376 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: gonna then notice that, notice how heavy you are in 377 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: all of these things. And when he said that to me, 378 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: when I tell you in that conversation, it changed everything. 379 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: But the problem is that ninety nine percent of couples 380 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: don't have that conversation. 381 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 6: They don't have a conversation, and I think also they 382 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 6: might not even believe their partner. 383 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Well, so what happened was during the conversation I said, 384 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: during this whole thing that we were just talking about, 385 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: if somebody says to me, hey, you look skinny, that 386 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: would be saying the same thing as someone saying to 387 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: you did you gain weight? You know? Or somebody says 388 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: to me, have you lost weight since I last saw you? 389 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: It would be hey, did you gain weight since I last, Like, 390 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: that's the same to me. I I this metabolism, which 391 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: is just fucking crazy. All right, Everybody who's like, you know, 392 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: playing this little small violin for me, go fuck yourselves, 393 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: because I feel the same way as if somebody calls 394 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: you fat, Like that's the same thing to me. 395 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: I can right, right, But no one cares about skinny 396 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: people's problems. 397 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: But we feel the same. But but it's the same. 398 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: It's the guy. It's different. It's different, right, Like you 399 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: don't want to you don't want. 400 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: To be by and it's a very insecure feeling. It's like, oh, 401 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: am I too skinny? Is my penis too small? 402 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: Like? 403 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: Am I? 404 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: All the things during sex that they also like, am 405 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I too? You know? It's it's the same insecurities as 406 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: a woman who has either gained weight and feels that 407 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: she's too fat? What is he thinking about me? Where 408 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: I'm thinking the opposite about myself? 409 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: Am I? 410 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: Just? 411 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: You know all those things? And I've had people reach 412 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: out to me, women who said I listened to the 413 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: episode and their husband said, hey, you know what, I 414 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: feel like I'm too fat compared to you When we 415 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: go out, I don't feel good going out, like just 416 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: having the conversation that women never thought their husbands were 417 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: feeling that way, and because they listened to me saying 418 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: what I was saying, they're saying whether it's the same 419 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: or the opposite or somewhere in between. At least they're 420 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: talking and saying those things where women weren't thinking. Guys 421 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: have these feelings with these point of views or these. 422 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: These ideas about their bodies. Yeah, you know, we assume 423 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: you look better than me. So I'm not going to 424 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 3: bring it up because I look insecure and then I 425 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 3: and then I feel like and then I'm chasing. 426 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: Like you know, the dad bad is like that was a. 427 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Thing that's gone, Like I don't know. 428 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: Even like like look at George Clooney Salt and Pepper, 429 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: like it's right, the older he. 430 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Gets the fine look wonderful. Women have to color their 431 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: hair all the things that are really hard. 432 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: But a lot of guys lose their hair. That's not 433 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, it became a thing for a 434 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: while and then it's not, and then it is, and 435 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: then it's not. Like nobody wants to lose their hair. 436 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: Liked, but you can't compare, Like, no, I think women 437 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: are way under a microscope. I think way more. 438 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of like women going gray, right, Like the 439 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: same thing for guys who lose their hair, right Like, 440 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like now women who go gray. It's 441 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: kind of like a cool trending thing. 442 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: They're trying, but it's not nearly as easy as a guy. 443 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: So go ten years ago with guys who were bald, 444 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: who are trying to make it a cral thing because 445 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: there's cool guys out there on on camera who look 446 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: amazing bald, but we all don't write. 447 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: Like, Okay, you don't know because you haven't had to do. 448 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: That, and that's you're not going to the bald gods. 449 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: Don't you look great? 450 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: You guys both like, oh my god, I'm so hoping 451 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: for him to be bald. I will shine his head. 452 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: You want you like bald guys or No, I just 453 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: want him to feel what I feel, to. 454 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: Feel the pain. 455 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I still love to at about him, Ibby, I 456 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 6: still love. 457 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: Him and be attracted to him and everything. I just 458 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 2: want him to like understand a little bit of what 459 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: the pressure. 460 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: No, for sure, I think this is a really a 461 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 3: really good conversation, and I really admire you for being 462 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: honest about it, and thank you, and and I'm. 463 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: Grateful for. 464 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: Else. 465 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for you guys for like showing up, you know, 466 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: euthentically and saying like I do think the hair thing 467 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: is a big thing for men like wait is for 468 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 3: women the end. You know, I just thought about this 469 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: part in our book well where I talk about this 470 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: guy who I had sex with for the first time 471 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: after like from one one of my first experiences after 472 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: like breaking up my baby daddy, and he took his 473 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: hat off and he was balding, and I talked shit 474 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: in the book and now I feel really guilty. But 475 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: he was, he was, he was super He's still super fine. 476 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: He's a super fine guy. And all he needed to 477 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: do was just let the hair go, and he did. 478 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: But you know, all that to say is that like 479 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: body dysmorphia and like, you know, just having ideas about 480 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: our bodies. You know, me and Erica had this conversation 481 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: this week and it's not it wasn't pertaining to bodies, 482 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 3: but it was pertaining to things that happen. And then 483 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: it's not the thing that happens, but it's the thoughts 484 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: that we have after that. Fuck us you know, like 485 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: even with like you know, even with you guys who 486 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: you're married for so many years, you have three kids, 487 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: and you're saying, you know, I'm thinking about this, and 488 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: then he finally tells you and he's not thinking about 489 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: none of that shit. But in your mind, you've made 490 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 3: the main thing is this narrative, and now it's fucking 491 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: you up. You can't even get into the set, that's right. 492 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: But meanwhile he's he's he's experiencing the same thing, and 493 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: you guys are not communicating it, and so it's it's 494 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: it's you know, keeping you guys from each other. 495 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 4: And even with me and Erica, you. 496 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: Know, like things will come up and I'm like, I'll 497 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: make up something in my mind and it's not real. 498 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: And it's like we have to be better at recognizing when. 499 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: These these these. 500 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: Negative thoughts start to perpetuate our entire thought process and 501 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: start to perpetuate like how we think about ourselves and 502 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 3: our self confidence. And like, you know, obviously men don't 503 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: carry babies or give birth, and they don't have they 504 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 3: don't experience as much pressure from society to look a 505 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: certain way because they're a little bit more acceptable after 506 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: a certain age or you know, like men are more 507 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: desirable at an older age. You're like, oh, he's a 508 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: zach Man. 509 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: It's a gut. It's not that, it's not right, it's 510 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 4: not a thing. 511 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: I say that to me in the beginning of a relationship. 512 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: But he's not the same person at all that he 513 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: was then. But you know, his dad always had a big, 514 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: a big belly, and he I remember him saying to 515 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: me when I was you know, twenty look twenty two 516 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: and one hundred and fifteen pounds, right like him saying 517 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: to me like, oh, it's okay for my dad because 518 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: he's you know, and he again at the time, I 519 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh fuck, what am I getting myself into? 520 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: And he's not. 521 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: He's uh why because you were thinking he's gonna have 522 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: that belly. 523 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: Gotta give a shit about the belly. I was thinking, 524 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: he's he's so concentrated on how people look and everything, 525 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: which which has always been And I was like that too, 526 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: very much. But at the same time, you know, my 527 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: body is our journey. You know, my body is our journey. 528 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: I mean we have had you know, first of all, 529 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: we've had you know, like I said, I had four pregnancies, 530 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: three kids. I had one miscarriage. I had horrible, horrible 531 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: per needle, you know, a qte OCD, which is almost 532 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: killed me. I had. You know, we've had I had 533 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: terrible postpartum, we've had financial like all our stuff that 534 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: comes out with him, maybe with stuff that he's done, 535 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: escapism and drinking and gambling and all this stuff has 536 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: come out for me with my body and you know, 537 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: and our journey is beautiful. You know, I love our journey. 538 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do it and I'm gonna fucking cry. 539 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't, you know. I love our journey. I love 540 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: I do. I love our journey, but it's I do. 541 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: But it is as a woman hard to you know, 542 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: have that journey and be told you're not supposed to 543 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: look like that, so you know, it is it's a 544 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: struggle because I don't want anybody else to feel like that, 545 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: and yet I feel like that, you know. So that's 546 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: been a really hard thing. 547 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 4: But I mean I resonate with that. I talk about 548 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: that in the book. 549 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 5: And you know, I've had body issues since I was 550 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: a young girl, just based in acting growing up in 551 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 5: LA comparing myself being the only black girl in my class, 552 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 5: having a mature body early while other girls didn't, and 553 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 5: I feeling totally out of place, and then getting pregnant, 554 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 5: gaining set twenty pounds in my pregnancy. You know the 555 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: story of me and Mila. You know, I saw on Instagram. 556 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 5: I saw her in her little string fucking bikini with 557 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: her bottle, like her little glasses champagne. And I was 558 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: triggered as fuck because I was like looking at myself. 559 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: People kept asking me if I was having twins, and 560 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 5: she had popped out a baby and had a six pack, 561 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: and I was like, fuck her. And I'd also seen 562 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 5: some other Instagram models that were like being glorified for 563 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 5: having like this snapback situation, and then when I had 564 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 5: my baby, and I still struggle even now till this day, 565 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 5: and people might look at me and look at my 566 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 5: Instagram be like, oh, she's such a beautiful girl, Like 567 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 5: what is she talking about? And it's like everyone has 568 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 5: their own private struggles of what their expectation of what 569 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: they're supposed to look like, what they think is beautiful, 570 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 5: what they hope that, what they think their partner thinks 571 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: is beautiful, what they see their partner look at and glorify. 572 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: Oh my God, look at that's like that's my favorite celebrity. 573 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: Oh that's this or listen't she gorgeous? And then you 574 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 5: look in the mirror and you're like, I don't look 575 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 5: like that. Does my partner think I'm attractive? 576 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 6: Like? 577 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: And then on top of that, like aging know me 578 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 5: and me lass started I like that's been a thing 579 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 5: for me now, like lately, in the last the last 580 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 5: few like a year or two, like and you know, 581 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: and again like I'm thirty five turning thirty six this year. 582 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: I know maybe to you, I'm like a baby and 583 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: when i'm you know, forty five, I'm a look at 584 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: a thirty five or look at myself and be like, but. 585 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up. 586 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 5: But you know, I look in them, I'm looking at 587 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 5: I literally I'm looking at the beginning of our podcast 588 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: and now and I'm like I'm noticing things. 589 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, huh yeah, if I do that too. 590 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: Face is looking a little different, that line, those lines 591 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: are getting a little deeper. 592 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like, oh that belly that like used to 593 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: snap back, how used to? 594 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: It's the skin is loose forever now, bitch, And like 595 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 5: it's just it's trick to be a woman and for 596 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 5: our bodies to kind of be kind of on the 597 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: chopping block is triggering as fuck. Yeah, you know, and 598 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: you know even for us. 599 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 4: And we have daughters, and we have daughters and you know, and. 600 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: This is not I just want to interrupt again, this 601 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: is not a woman issue. This is not female. No. 602 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Maybe years ago there was expectations for women against men. 603 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: I think that's changing and more men are coming out 604 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: different though. 605 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: They are physical, but they're not they're little like, okay, 606 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: like your hairline. I'm not worried about my hairline most women. 607 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 5: There are women of course that a fitting hair right, 608 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 5: right women. But I think that like the things that 609 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 5: men worry about are like dick size, which they are 610 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 5: totally out of they can't do anything about right well, 611 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 5: which is also traumati which is really triggering and traumatizing 612 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 5: because women we have also perpetuated this big dick like 613 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: what we want, this big dick type of thing where 614 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 5: men are like, well, this is what I got. 615 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, what are we supposed to do? I can't 616 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: work out or. 617 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: Put a little sea cup in our titty a little. 618 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't care about size, by the way, 619 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: just saying I'm just saying I don't think guys care 620 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: about the boobs right, like like size small to big, 621 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Like I know there's there's guys who can you know, 622 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: there's what's it called whatever? 623 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: Because that's literally all I have. 624 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: Okay, great these days, by the way, just. 625 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: Talking about nothing. Okay, So you guys just fucking hype 626 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: up the booms and say I love your boob. 627 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I think the boobs are prime and better than ever. 628 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Let's just wait, you know, I. 629 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: Want to I want to do something because usually we 630 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: do affirmation on our show, and I just because you 631 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: guys just said that, and because you said that, you 632 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: realize that you're not as good as giving and this 633 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: is I'm only doing this because I'm I'm not good 634 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: at this girl. But like because you're you're you sometimes 635 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: don't give Adam affirmations because you're whatever your yourtional things are. 636 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: Can you affirm Adam some things that you love about him, 637 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: his physical his physical appearance. 638 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: Please go ahead. Would like me to end up my shirt. 639 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: I would like you to say, that's gonna be the 640 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: first one take it off. Sometimes he gets out of 641 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: the shower in the morning, well usually I'm up in 642 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: the morning before him. Because I have to take our 643 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: daughter to her school's fucking far away. So but when 644 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: he does get up and shower before I do, and 645 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: he gets out and he has his shirt off and 646 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: he's in his little you know what do they call 647 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: the boy? Oh my god, he walks by me, I'm like, 648 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: fucking damn. But I'm also like, I wish I could 649 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: like walk out my broad underwear and be like that. 650 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: But i do think, like when you walk by me 651 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: in the morning and you're in your like you know, 652 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: just short off or whatever, I'm like, goddamn, like for sure. 653 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: And always when he walks in after coming home from work, 654 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: maybe it's because I'm so happy to see him or whatever. 655 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Are you We won't get into that kid keep going compliment. 656 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm tired. 657 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 4: I'm tired. 658 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: But so basically you have to walk down sort of 659 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: a hallway to get to the family room, where I'm 660 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: usually like laying down under a blank. 661 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 6: And I'm always like like, that's my fucking husband, Like 662 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 6: holy shit, you know, like I'm like every single day, 663 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 6: you know, like I missed him so much when he's 664 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 6: gone during the day, like our business is in the 665 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 6: sense that like when he's you know, there's a lot 666 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: of times where he'll take off from his actual work 667 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 6: job and we you know, we do work. 668 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: At home and stuff like that, and on those days, 669 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't ever want him to go back. 670 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: You know. It reminds me of like I went to 671 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: NYU here in the city and he would come every 672 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: weekend to visit me or during the week or whatever, 673 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: and on Sundays I would cry my eyes out when 674 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: he went back home. And I still have that same feeling. Granted, 675 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: there were a good ten years in there where I 676 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: was like, I don't fuck it, I don't no, like no, like, 677 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: let's you know, there was definitely. 678 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Ten years three right, beautiful. 679 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: Right, let's average it five years like inner first, not 680 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: chronological like here and there where I was like, but 681 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: now where our relationship is is like when he walks in, 682 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's my husband and I love him so much, 683 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: you know. But but yeah, so those those types of 684 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: things where I just I mean, he needs new jeans 685 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: and stuff, like we need to go shopping. These are 686 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: They're awful, these horrible? 687 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: These are great. 688 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: You have like a cameltone vagina. 689 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: That's how I like them. 690 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: We're going shopping. 691 00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: Jeans are out shout out for the women and men. 692 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Land, Yes, I And you know, when he's on 693 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: top of me and I feel him and stuff, I'm like, 694 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: my I fucking love him. But you know, it's all 695 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: comes with the opposite of I hope he's feeling. 696 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: The same way. 697 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: It's hard to do, yeah, So you know, it all 698 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: comes with a you know, being told, like like I 699 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: said on our social media and stuff. Look, they're thousands 700 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: and thousands of people in our audience to our team 701 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: Danielle right, who are like, not that I want to 702 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: do teams against each other or whatever, who have listened 703 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: to our episodes and are like, my god, you're so 704 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: beautiful this and that, and I hope he knows and 705 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: if he doesn't want you all, have you with this 706 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: and that. You know, like our audience is fantastic and amazing, 707 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: But there's also always that part of you, you know, 708 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: like like, there's this a woman the other day I 709 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: posted a picture and like up side by side of 710 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: me like when I was younger now, and she's like, 711 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: I liked you so much better when like you look 712 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: so good when you eyebrows, And I'm like, do I 713 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: not wrong? I'm like, Okay, I that wasn't even on 714 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: my radio. Yeah, so you know, so it's it's hard, 715 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 2: but you know, but I do think that there's something 716 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: to be said for like the fact that we have 717 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: that conversation that we had in that in that episode, 718 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: as much as it's still work in progress for sure, 719 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: and I think it'll always be a work in progress 720 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 2: for me. Changed everything. And you know, that's like why 721 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: we wrote the Date Night Questions book is because people 722 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: always say to us, like, how do you get to 723 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: this point or whatever, and we're like, here are the 724 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: questions we asked each other, Here's the conversation you need 725 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: to have. And I would say ninety five percent of 726 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: couples never have these conversations, right. 727 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: Like, nor would we have if we hadn't started this, 728 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: right like, we would never have had these discussions or 729 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: talked about all of this stuff with that. 730 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: Right Yeah, and at the beginning of our relationship. Honestly, 731 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: he probably it probably would have been problematic for him 732 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: if I was forty pounds more, right, Like, He's changed 733 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: as the humans ina with He's evolved as a human. 734 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: So you know, so the thing is that I started as. 735 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: A neanderthal, and then I grew to like you know. 736 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right right, So you know, so people also 737 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: need to understand that just as in any relationship or 738 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: your own you know, like you guys said, you're not 739 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: the same people you were five years ago when you 740 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: came on our podcast, We're not the same people we 741 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: were five years ago in our relationship. So that check in, 742 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 2: you know that that Okay, maybe what he thought twenty 743 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: years ago or fifteen years ago or ten years ago 744 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: isn't the same thing that and I'm still basing it 745 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: on thinking he's the same. 746 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 5: Person was holding you to this unrealistic body standard that 747 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 5: he doesn't even he's not even considering anymore. 748 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: Even the person that he was but that he's no 749 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: longer is not giving him credit for the growth and 750 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 3: the evolution that he's done. 751 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 2: And that's it's so important to ask each other these questions, 752 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: because you know, I like the person he is now 753 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 2: so much more than the person who I'm married. 754 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 5: You know, I want to ask Adam to do the 755 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 5: same what I want. I would I would like she 756 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 5: gave you some affirmation. 757 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: Take my top off. 758 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 4: If I share it, we can blow. 759 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 2: Them out, all right? 760 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: For me? Please be specific. What's the question? 761 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 5: Well, I would like just as she gave you some 762 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: positive affirmations about yourself, what are some positive affirmations that 763 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 5: you can give? 764 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: Okay, can I recall hold on, we're recording a podcast. 765 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 6: It's going to be. 766 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: Just as he was, Just as she was saying, by 767 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: the way, with taking her top off, because that's what 768 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: it should happen for us all to understand what I'm 769 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: talking about. The boobs transformation from beginning to now is 770 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: the most incredible transformation of boobs I've ever seen it. 771 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, gain forty pounds in you can't find 772 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: whatever it is. It worked, But the. 773 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: Confidence that she's found in herself who she is today 774 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: is so much more attractive than who she was twenty 775 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: years ago, when she was I don't know how many 776 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: pounds skinner. I'm not gonna ask, and I'm not even 777 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna get involved with that, but the confidence is so 778 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: much more attractive, and the boobs are too, that all 779 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: of that being together makes her so much more attractive 780 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: to me now than who she was, whether it was skinnier, 781 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: whether it was she was less confident, better eyebrows, she 782 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: had eyebrows. 783 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: But. 784 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: It's it's all about how she feels about herself that 785 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: makes it so much more. 786 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 787 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: So I love physical attraction. Of course, who doesn't. She 788 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: has it, but now that she thinks she has it, 789 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: that makes it that much more attractive to me. 790 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 5: So do you think that that is something that most 791 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 5: that women need to understand? Do you think that that 792 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 5: is like kind of the key that women miss out 793 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 5: on when with their partners? 794 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: And yes? 795 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 4: In general? 796 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: Now, look are there people out there that are just 797 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: there for physical attraction and whatever they want it to 798 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: be is what? Do they want Skinny women? Yes? Do 799 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: they want heavy women? Yes, Like everybody wants a certain 800 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: thing and that's okay. But I think for the most part, 801 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: I would think they're thinking the way that I'm thinking. Right, 802 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: If they're confident in themselves the way they are, that's 803 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: so much more attractive than just the physical aspect of 804 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: what attraction is. 805 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: I feel like your confidence gives your physical appearance like 806 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 3: a boost. Yes, it's not. It translates to physically physically, 807 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 808 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 5: It's like even if you almost embody exactly what it 809 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 5: is that you feel that you that you that you 810 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 5: are aspiring to have Yeah, when you. 811 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: Carry yourself in the way that you are, in the 812 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: way that you feel. 813 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 2: People see that. 814 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: People see that projection versus people seeing something. But whatever, 815 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 3: Like if you're insecure about this, insecure about that. And 816 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: like even for Eric and I, like we have totally 817 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: different body types. You know, we're both beautiful women, but 818 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: we have we're totally we are We're totally different women, 819 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 3: you know, like short hair, big hair, like light skin, 820 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: brown skin like thick skinny, big boobs, little boobs, Like 821 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: we are totally different women. And I think you know, 822 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 3: and we come from totally different places and not like 823 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: like geographically, but like I think there are Like even 824 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 3: in this relationship that's not marriage, it's required that we 825 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 3: be secure in ourselves because it's easy for some like 826 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 3: someone to say one thing about her or me and 827 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh shit, like by the weaklink, cute one. 828 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 4: Like the thing. 829 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: Is that you know, ironically what you just said. Like 830 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: as different as you both are, I feel exactly the 831 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: same about both of you. I have the same interpretation 832 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: of both of you. Like the attractiveness of both of 833 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: you is the same because. 834 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: They're both powerful. 835 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: Because yes, you're both powerful women. You're both extremely different, 836 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: but you're comfortable with who you are. So that's just 837 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: like a hotness like scale for me. That's just on 838 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: level for this, exactly the same for both. 839 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, no, keep going. No, I was just 840 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: going to say, you know, I'm raising two boys, right, 841 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 2: so it's. 842 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: Me too, by the way, just putting that out. 843 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 4: Sorry, you're there, right, Yeah. 844 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm there too sometimes. 845 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 2: Right, So I am very I'm always very cognizant of 846 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: the fact that I'm raising two boys, right, I'm raising 847 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: two boys with humans of the world who I want 848 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: to be very good male humans and be very respectful 849 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: of women everything, and and and and so a little 850 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: bit as much as Adam said what he just said, 851 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: and I haven't heard him ever say that before, I 852 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: would encourage him to say that in front of our 853 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: boys and number one and our daughter, you know. 854 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 4: Because the things he's spoken to you. 855 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying right when he just said before. And 856 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: I'm grateful to both of you for saying that to him, 857 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 2: because you know, not a lot of times come up 858 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 2: where you say that to your partner. 859 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, just so you know, I never even told you, 860 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: not never this happened yesterday, so I didn't have a 861 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: chance to tell you this. I was taking our middle son, 862 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: who is fifteen, to the bus stop, so we had 863 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: literally two minutes before the bus came, of. 864 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: Course, because he's never fucking ready for the bus. 865 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: And he says to me in the car waiting for 866 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: the bus, why do hot girls like assholes? 867 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: Ah? 868 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, because he's a very sweet boy, very very emotional. 869 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 4: Speak dumb son. 870 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I had literally like thirty seconds to answer 871 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: this question, which was not fair because I have so 872 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: much to say and I didn't know what to say 873 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: within thirty seconds. 874 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: And I got to continue the conversation later. 875 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: On thousand percent. Yeah, but with having you know, thirty 876 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: seconds to talk and my mind going you know, millionize 877 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: a second, I was just like, well, why do you 878 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: like the hot girls? What is it about what makes 879 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: them hot? That makes them hot? 880 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 2: Right? 881 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: You don't have and then the bus came. 882 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing. So I when my so, 883 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 2: my my son, my fifteen year old son, my eleven 884 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: year old son is not there yet. He doesn't even 885 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: give fut girls. Who knows if we ever will. But 886 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: our fifteen year old son is very very into girls. Yeah, 887 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: I mean he is like very into girls. So, and 888 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: you know my daughter who has you know, friends and stuff, 889 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: or who will have crushes on girls because she's you know, 890 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: a lesbian. My my fifteen year old son will be like, oh, 891 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 2: is she hot? That's always his question is is she hot? 892 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 2: So I am notorious in Ian's with his friends of 893 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: I have a rule. I don't ever say they're not 894 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 2: allowed to listen to any kind of music or anything, 895 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: but I will push that fucking button and turn it 896 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 2: off and be like, why do we never say this 897 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 2: in real life? Why do we never? Why is this 898 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: never you know. 899 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 4: Realistic right? 900 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: Why are we never allowed to disrespect and like this? 901 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 2: Why are you not allowed to say that word? Why 902 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: are you So I'm notorious in the fact that, like 903 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 2: his friends know, like I don't really want to take 904 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: a long car ride with your mom. 905 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 4: You're in real time checking the fuck I'm in. 906 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 2: Real time checking. So a lot of parents have a rule, 907 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: You're not allowed to listen to this kind of music. 908 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 2: That's not my rule. My rule is I am I am. 909 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 2: I am allowed to push that fucking button anytime and 910 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: be like, which makes. 911 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 4: Gonyeah. 912 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: They don't ever want me to drive them anywhere. 913 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 3: It's a podcaster, right. 914 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: So, so my my son, my fifteen year old son, 915 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: who actually is a really good looking boy, he really is, 916 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: and and you know, and we'll probably have a lot 917 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 2: of relationships or whatever. He'll often say like is she hot? So, 918 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, recently I started to I said, okay, let's stop. 919 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 920 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does that mean to you? 921 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: Is she hot? Are you talking about physical are you 922 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: talking about confidence? Because let me tell you right now, 923 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: if you're talking about physical features, we have a lot 924 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 2: of talking to do. 925 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know, as a fifteen year old boy, that's 926 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: what it means. She is like hot physically? 927 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 2: Okay, But I want him to understand this. 928 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 5: Where has he adopted his definition of hot? Like that's right, 929 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 5: what was the prototype? 930 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 2: Mee? 931 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,959 Speaker 4: What was the girl? Who is the girl? 932 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: Is it? 933 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: So? 934 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So he has a girl who he has had 935 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 2: a huge crush on since the beginning of the year, 936 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 2: beautiful girl, you know whatever. She doesn't like him back, 937 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,959 Speaker 2: and and you know, and she's he's wasted a lot 938 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: of time really liking her and everything. And she's very 939 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: pretty and everything. She's very pretty, but I want him 940 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: to understand that, you know, the confidence, the the you know. 941 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: I want him to have somebody who like he is 942 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: a huge lover of animals. He's a huge lover of music. 943 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: He's a huge lover of Okay, does she even like 944 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: the same music if? Does she have the same appreciation 945 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: Does she have the same appreciation of appreciation of rescuing 946 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: animals that you do? Does she have like I do 947 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: not want to put a boy out into the world 948 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 2: who is going to assess a woman? And you think 949 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: about social media? Right Facebook? Facebook was founded on assessing women. 950 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg and his you know entourage founded Facebook on. 951 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: As a college kid. 952 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 2: But does this make it okay? 953 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's okay, but there's a progression. Now 954 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: I can just speak to myself as. 955 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 2: Telling them not to do it. Who's there? Well, no, 956 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: I just totally disagree. 957 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: I think as a progression of a boy turning into 958 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: a man. At some point, you're not there at college because. 959 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: No one's telling you to be there. Had I never 960 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: told you to be there, you would never be there. 961 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 2: What Had I never told you that this is not 962 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 2: okay to be way to be about judging women, then 963 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 2: you would never be there. Someone has to be there 964 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: to tell them this is not the way to do it. 965 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: And a lot of times, no, I think it's okay. 966 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 4: I think I think it's a special case. 967 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 5: I think no, Mark Zuckerberg didn't know he was going 968 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 5: to be fucking Facebook, and he was just like a smart, genius. 969 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 6: Little girl, like anybody. 970 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 2: But should anybody, and then it kind of happened. 971 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: Listen. I think there's girls who are the same. I 972 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: think there's boys who are the same in that retrospect, right. 973 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 2: But this is my boy. I think that I think 974 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: this is my boy. 975 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 3: I think that what Danielle is trying to say is that, granted, 976 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 3: teenage boys are definitely looking for the hot women and 977 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 3: what they're primarily attracted to, because that's what it means 978 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: when hormones are raging. Hence the same thing for women. 979 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 3: I was a raging hormone teenager. However, I think what 980 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 3: she's saying is that, especially if she feels like her 981 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,919 Speaker 3: was sponsibility as a woman as right as the mom, 982 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 3: especially knowing how how delayed that realization can be from 983 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 3: her own experience and just from living in society, is that. 984 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 4: She wants her son to know for. 985 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 2: Yes, let me plant these seas. I have a huge responsibility. 986 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: What what why? What are your value is? 987 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: Which is which is when I had thirty seconds to 988 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: respond to yesterday morning. 989 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 2: But yet, Step, you're not in the car with him 990 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 2: nearly as much as I am. I get that. I'm 991 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 2: not blaming you. I'm just saying that I need to 992 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 2: utilize that time as being like, Okay, I don't want 993 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: to be the mom who's like, let's listen to a 994 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 2: clean version. Okay. 995 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: I think it's more important for me to have the 996 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: responsibility than you because I spent the time, well it 997 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: started yesterday for thirty seconds, which I've learned something by 998 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: him asking me for the first time, which I can 999 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: now think about and make time to talk to him 1000 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 1: about what took me from that point to the point 1001 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: that I'm at now. 1002 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 2: But don't you want to don't you want to tell 1003 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: him to be at the point you're at now sooner 1004 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: than he is going to think he needs to. 1005 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,959 Speaker 1: Figure things out on his own. I think that's healthy. 1006 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 4: I don't agree, and. 1007 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: With knowing some things along. 1008 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 5: The way, I'm gonna say you guys are obviously way 1009 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 5: more experienced parents than I am way far ahead. But 1010 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 5: as I'm listening to you, guys, and I'm thinking about 1011 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 5: myself as your son's age, which is like you know, 1012 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 5: probably about twenty years ago, thinking about if my mom 1013 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 5: came to me and said these things to me, would 1014 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 5: I listen if my mom if like, it's important that 1015 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 5: he gets said, it's important that they get said. 1016 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: And this is this is the mother's fear. 1017 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 2: I feel you. 1018 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 6: I do because as a mom, like I'm putting me 1019 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 6: out into the world, there's a mama bear mentality, especially 1020 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 6: as a mom of a boy, where you're like, I 1021 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 6: as my duty as a woman to send you out here, 1022 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 6: because you're going to be out here fucking women. Not 1023 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 6: for lack of a better just say I like having sex. 1024 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 6: I mean like sucking them, fucking them over right, if you. 1025 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: Encountered ultimate ultimately, and they'll get fucked up even more as. 1026 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 4: But ultimately, guys, free will. They're gonna do what the 1027 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 4: fuck they want. 1028 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 5: But all we can do is say it a hundred 1029 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 5: times and hopefully some part of it sticks might be 1030 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 5: the whole. 1031 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 2: Thing in a better situation, if we say it, then 1032 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 2: we don't. We have to say it right. The conversation 1033 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: could say it. 1034 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 5: But like, each of your roles are so fucking crucial 1035 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 5: because he wants to know from his dad who maybe 1036 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 5: you were the hot dad, You were the hot he wore, 1037 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 5: were the hot you were the hot kid, You were 1038 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 5: the hot guy. So your son is asking you, why 1039 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 5: do fucking girls like the hot guy? 1040 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 4: Dad? Can you give me some advice? 1041 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 5: And you're as a dad to have this responsibility to 1042 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 5: give him thirty seconds of advice that's going to impact 1043 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 5: his life forever, hopefully, and then we'll have another conversation 1044 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 5: that bitch. 1045 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 4: Is not going to be to me only, but. 1046 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 2: God, damn, you're so hot and I'm his mom, then 1047 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 2: maybe my son will be like, oh that's hot, like and. 1048 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 4: Experience. 1049 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: No, but no, that's not what I do think. 1050 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 3: No, I really, really really do think that it is 1051 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 3: important Adam and Danielle that even if you're starting now 1052 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: and your parents like, what the fuck I think that happened? 1053 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: Sorry? 1054 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 3: Now, I think it's super important that you guys praise 1055 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 3: each other out loud and be affectionate out loud. I 1056 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 3: think you should smack her ass. I think you should 1057 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 3: kiss her. I think you say, damn, you look good. 1058 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 3: Today and even even for them to be like shut 1059 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 3: the fuck up or whatever they say. I think that 1060 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 3: is super, super super important. 1061 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: And we do that. Our kids are constantly saying, oh, 1062 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: that's gross. 1063 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 2: We don't compliment each other, understand. 1064 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: Now nobody, but but if we're either snuggling on the 1065 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: couch or a kiss or a hug or whatever, it's like, 1066 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: why do you guys love each other so much? Or 1067 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: why do you like there's a constant did it work out? 1068 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: If you ask our children do your parents love each other? 1069 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: They would say one hundred percent, yes, yeah, h do 1070 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: they do? They love each other. 1071 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 4: But that an accomplishment. 1072 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: But that is an accomplishment. And I know, I'm so 1073 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 3: happy you guys are here. Like especially this month is 1074 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 3: like we are we put this book out. This book 1075 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 3: has a lot. This book is like literally broke up 1076 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 3: in three parts. It's like before children, after Daddy and 1077 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: the revelation, right and like one of our one of 1078 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 3: my fears for us as a brand, and like not 1079 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 3: my fears not go fuck, but like I didn't want 1080 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 3: people to think that we were like a man hating 1081 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 3: like baby Daddy hating, like anti relationship duo, you know, 1082 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 3: and like I think you know, black women specifically and 1083 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 3: women in general get that title because it's like we're 1084 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 3: too independent or we don't need it. And it's like, 1085 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 3: let me be clear, these two bitches want to be 1086 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: cared for. 1087 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: You your wives right right. We your wives to each other. 1088 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 3: I cook for her, We care for each other like 1089 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 3: we ribe each other's head if a bitch has a headache, 1090 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 3: like we are soft women. And I'm really I'm really 1091 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 3: glad to like have you guys back in this moment, 1092 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 3: just because I really want to make it clear that this, 1093 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 3: like this book is for even women who are married 1094 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: and like that you have different stages in your relationship 1095 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 3: and it's not like it's not about like having a 1096 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 3: problem letting somebody go and it's but it really is 1097 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 3: about and the whole really book is about. It's like, 1098 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 3: not only did I have a kid with somebody, but 1099 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 3: I was so committed to being loved publicly in front 1100 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 3: of my child in a certain way that if the 1101 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 3: person that I gave birth to with for you the 1102 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 3: products that are like you're the product of these two people, 1103 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 3: and if if it didn't look like this, then it 1104 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 3: had to be done, like it had to be dead, 1105 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 3: but that this is the love that I would like 1106 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 3: my child to see, because this is the love that 1107 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 3: I would like you to subscribe to you as you 1108 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 3: are on your journey. And you know, a woman could 1109 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 3: be hot and the guy could be It doesn't matter 1110 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 3: who it is. If it's a woman, if it's a male, 1111 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 3: if they're hot, but just understanding at its core that like, 1112 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 3: people are not always going to be hot. I'm not 1113 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 3: always pretty, all right, you know what I'm saying. 1114 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, and your personalit's getting change too, but also. 1115 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 5: The passion behind you guys both care so deeply about 1116 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 5: how this situation manifests through your son. 1117 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is the gift of the marriage too, 1118 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 4: is that you have a position about it. 1119 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 5: Some people it's like figure it out, okay, whatever, Yeah, 1120 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 5: there's only one Like, what a blessing that your son 1121 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 5: has both people that you care so fucking much and 1122 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 5: you care too, but you're also like you have different 1123 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,439 Speaker 5: perspectives but ultimately the same goal. 1124 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, ultimately outcome and that's all that's always kind of 1125 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 6: it's a different path. 1126 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 4: That is literally like, yeah, the journey of man and woman. 1127 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 5: It's like I think we all do generally want the 1128 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 5: same outcome, which is love, which is support, which is acceptance, 1129 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 5: which is safety. But the journey there often looks so 1130 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 5: fucking different that it seems like crazy. Sometimes you're like, 1131 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 5: I don't fucking know you well are you? 1132 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 2: Also? One of the amazing things about Adam I have 1133 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 2: to say as a man as a man, is that 1134 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 2: we have three extremely different children. I mean when I 1135 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 2: say extremely different children, like you know, extremely different, like 1136 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't even know how something fucking happened with the 1137 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 2: sperms and the or whatever. They're all amazing. But we 1138 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 2: have honored each of them in their own way and 1139 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 2: and very much been like this is their needs and 1140 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 2: and Adam as a man has never ever been like 1141 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 2: I need my boy to be you like this masculine whatever, 1142 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 2: like he has very much. 1143 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: They've all taken after me. Why would I not nourish 1144 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: each child in the well, No, that was true. I 1145 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: mean me as a lesbian like me not I you know, 1146 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 1: into music, right, he. 1147 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: Has your you're all me okay, but but we have 1148 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 2: from we were on the gamut of you know, being 1149 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 2: Mia being obviously like a huge activist and whatever, and 1150 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: Ian being his like you know, masculine metrosexual self and Jonah, 1151 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 2: we have a college fund for him. That's all. I get. 1152 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 4: Sad. 1153 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 2: But but but but I think if you relinquished that 1154 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: like what it's supposed to be, right, Like like when 1155 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 2: I you know, when when Mia came out to Adam, 1156 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 2: it was like the most beautiful thing, it really was. 1157 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 4: It was like the most she was. 1158 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 2: There was no nerves, there was know, like when she 1159 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 2: said to him, like, you know, I knew forever that 1160 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 2: she was lesbian, and when she came out to him, 1161 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 2: there was no like although I know he thinks to 1162 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 2: himself like, oh, you know, I wanted to walk her 1163 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: down the and she still won't be able to walk 1164 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 2: her down the aisle and whatever. But but to give 1165 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 2: the kids that gift of you know, whatever you are, 1166 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 2: you are And that is really what he has done 1167 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 2: as a man like he is really and that and 1168 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 2: we talked about physical things. That is the sexiest thing 1169 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 2: about him is that were there our three kids. He 1170 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 2: has done I'm gonna cry too, yeah important, yeah, and 1171 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 2: we've yeah, yeah, that's right. And I try. 1172 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: Look, I try to be like I've been through a 1173 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: lot of shit myself, right, Like I've been there, I've 1174 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: experienced all the different things, and I I understand there's 1175 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: different all the different things that my kids could be, 1176 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: right and except of whatever they're going, we weren't. 1177 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 2: It was very much accepted by our parents for who 1178 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 2: we were. Yeah, I am now you are now by 1179 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 2: my parents. What we're more accepted now because for what Well, 1180 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: because we're for my parents. Our podcast is successful, so 1181 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 2: it's acceptable now. No, they were very they were, they 1182 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: were in it from the beginning. But yeah, but I 1183 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 2: think that you know, there's a worthiness that that happened. 1184 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that makes sense. 1185 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for your parents too. Yeah, we're still working on it. 1186 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 1: We're still working on it. 1187 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, so, I you know, I I 1188 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: feel like that was a really big deal. You know, 1189 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 2: when when you decide to have kids together, you talk 1190 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: a lot about the toddler years and everything, and you 1191 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 2: know who's going to get up in the middle of 1192 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: the night and this and that, and there's this whole 1193 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 2: more important aspect missing, right, which is what kind of 1194 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 2: humans are we going to raise? And I think that's 1195 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: what Adam and I have concentrated on. Maybe not from 1196 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 2: the beginning, no at all. 1197 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: Right, Right, that's evolved, right, that's evolved, and. 1198 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 2: It's very much been like what kind of humans we 1199 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 2: want to put out into the world. And we have 1200 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 2: raised advocates, we've raised you know, like allies. We have 1201 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: raised really really good human beings. I'm very proud of 1202 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: the humans we've raised, and that's been really our number 1203 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 2: one priority together and you know, so that to me 1204 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 2: is the partnership of parenthood, right, like we have done. 1205 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of the humans that we have raised. 1206 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 2: I really am. And you know, and when I say, like, 1207 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 2: I stop and I ask them about the music and 1208 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 2: everything like that, like a lot of it is you 1209 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: know a little bit like you know, a lot of 1210 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: parents that I know don't allow certain music in their homes, 1211 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 2: don't allow certain movies or and we've never been those people. 1212 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 2: We're always like like we love you know, like raunchy 1213 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 2: this and raunchy that or whatever. But the conversation that 1214 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 2: surrounds it is what is important, right Like, Okay, this 1215 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 2: is great, this is fun, this is great music. You know, 1216 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 2: why are we why are we not taking it literally? 1217 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 2: Why are we not saying this or that? And I 1218 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 2: think together we've been a really good team with that. 1219 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 2: So you know, so that has really been like I 1220 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 2: feel like, as much as I feel like I love 1221 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 2: our podcast so much and everything, and I think we're 1222 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 2: teaching a lot of parents about how to do things 1223 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 2: your own way, I feel like as parents, I think 1224 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 2: raising our kids has sort of been like our a 1225 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 2: gift to the world. Like I think we're really raising 1226 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 2: good humans. 1227 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 5: I'm like, watching you guys is really inspirational to me 1228 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 5: because I don't think I have a lot of examples 1229 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 5: of successful marriages in my. 1230 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 4: Life, and like I don't. I don't even mean I'm 1231 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 4: not even talking about my imediate friend. 1232 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 5: I mean as like even like my parents, like grandparents, 1233 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 5: everyone that I know that is close to me has 1234 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 5: been ended up in divorce, right, And so like seeing 1235 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 5: a relationship work through these things, your children being essentially 1236 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 5: expressions of your relationship in ways, and like this this 1237 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 5: soul shifting project that you guys get to work on 1238 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 5: together to you know, conspire and create. And granted they have, 1239 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 5: like we side, free will and they're going to be 1240 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 5: who the fuck they are, but they these these things 1241 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 5: that come from us, that sprout from goals, and they 1242 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 5: are like these gifts we get to leave along the way, 1243 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 5: as are we of you know the people before us, 1244 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 5: and you know the mothers and fathers before us. But 1245 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 5: it's like this project that you guys get to work 1246 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,919 Speaker 5: on this lifetime and life is short, and you guys 1247 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 5: get to do this thing together, and you know, and 1248 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 5: figuring out what is it that we like, what is 1249 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 5: that we want to do together, How do we want 1250 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 5: to spend our time, how do we want to raise 1251 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 5: our kids? 1252 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 4: What is the goal? You know, it's not always going 1253 01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 4: to be perfect. We're not always going to agree with 1254 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 4: what is the goal? 1255 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we never knew what our goal was until 1256 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: we realize what our goal was, which is to put 1257 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: good people onto this planet, which is our children, and 1258 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: how to do it properly. And look, we can only 1259 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: do what we can do. We can do everything that 1260 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: we think is the right thing to do, and then 1261 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: they're out there on their own. 1262 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1263 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 3: I always say that my motherhood is the best job 1264 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 3: because I can create one less asshole in the world. 1265 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Right, I feel that very much. 1266 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like we are putting some assholes out 1267 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: into the world to us, but not of course. 1268 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 3: And also I want you to encourage you guys and 1269 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 3: remind you guys to the same grace and space and 1270 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 3: save space and affirmative love that you give your children, 1271 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 3: that you offer to yourselves and to each other, because 1272 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 3: sometimes it's like we limitlessly love our kids unconditionally. We 1273 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 3: give them free rein to express and say and fall 1274 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 3: down and get up and get up and get up, 1275 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 3: and we give them the words. 1276 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 4: And ask these questions like why do I consider that hot? 1277 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 4: Why do you consider that? 1278 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 2: Ask yourself please please? And kids music off and be 1279 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 2: like why what is this? But I mean saying no, no, 1280 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: we're not allowed to listen, but. 1281 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 5: Even asking ourselves as adults those exact questions, right right, 1282 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 5: like why do I what do I consider hot? 1283 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 4: Why do I feel like my body isn't enough? What 1284 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 4: are these questions? 1285 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Like? 1286 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 4: Just like your son is asking like is she hot? Yes, 1287 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 4: you're asking yourself like am I fat? What does that mean? 1288 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Right? 1289 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 2: Am I hot? What does that mean? This is my journey? 1290 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 3: And I'm hot because I'm I'm raising three kids. 1291 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm getting a business. 1292 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 3: I've built a business, right you know, because I told 1293 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 3: my husband to jump on board and I saved our 1294 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 3: marriage because I was willing to be vulnerable. 1295 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 4: That's right. 1296 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 1: And stuff means nothing to a fifteen year old. But 1297 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like to try to pass along iur journey 1298 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 1: and what we think is hot. Now, how do you 1299 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: relate that to a teenager? 1300 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, we're more also saying like whatever part of ourselves 1301 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 3: and from each other our kids. 1302 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think also, you know, not blaming 1303 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Adam and not blaming me, but the fact that like 1304 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 2: we could both do a much better job of affirming 1305 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 2: each other in front of our kids. I think we 1306 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: can both and you fucking too, but I think we 1307 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 2: could both do a much better job of that, And 1308 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 2: especially as our bodies change and we age and everything, 1309 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 2: the more you know, we show our kids, that all 1310 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 2: of our kids that you know that that you're not 1311 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 2: just doing it for your partner, which should be enough anyway, 1312 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 2: but you're doing it in the sense of like changing 1313 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 2: bodies and changing humans is a natural progression and it 1314 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 2: is thing beautiful and it means that we're still here 1315 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 2: and we've served worry. 1316 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 4: About We all just have to worry about that, right concept. 1317 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Right, and those affirmations like would change. 1318 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 5: I always show up physically on this world, and that's 1319 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 5: sort of just existing and enjoying the short time we 1320 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 5: have here. 1321 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 4: That's right. 1322 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 5: Well, that leads me to today's affirmation. You guys, I 1323 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 5: just thumbed through our book, A Good Mom's Guide to 1324 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 5: Making Bad Choices, which is available everywhere, and you should 1325 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 5: have it. You don't have it, go get it right 1326 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 5: the fuck now. And we have affirmations in every chapter. 1327 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 5: Mela shares one. I share one, just so you know. 1328 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 5: In each chapter it's each of our voices really walking 1329 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 5: you through where we're at in this particular part of 1330 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 5: our journey. I think this is just that, oh we 1331 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 5: have this is my affirmation, and this isn't the chapter. 1332 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 5: Fuck I'm expecting, and I'm gonna just breed you just 1333 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 5: the brief description of what the chapters about, because we 1334 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 5: haven't really done that, so fuck I'm expecting. Pregnancy can 1335 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 5: be triggering, beautiful, and isolating confusing right The shifts in 1336 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 5: your body, identity, and friendships can feel overwhelming. On the 1337 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 5: other hand, the life growing inside of you plant seeds 1338 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 5: of self advocacy and intuition that you may not have 1339 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 5: experienced before. Pregnancy is a very real understanding that nothing 1340 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 5: will ever be the same again. Affirmation so true. My 1341 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 5: body has been given the incredible gift to be a 1342 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 5: vessel for life. I joyfully accept the challenges and changes 1343 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 5: that come with this soul shifting privilege. 1344 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 4: So just a reminder that, like we have this privilege. 1345 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 5: Whether you carry or not, whether you are the deliverer 1346 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 5: or not, of like the soul shifting privilege we have 1347 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 5: with our kids, right, which is why we take it 1348 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 5: so fucking seriously. 1349 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 6: It's personal as fuck, right, So there's that, And then 1350 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 6: also we are the vessels of life. 1351 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 5: You've carried four children, You've had four children, Like, I 1352 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,479 Speaker 5: love what you said about my body is our journey, yeah, 1353 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 5: you know, and I think that when you start really 1354 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 5: like reimagining your body in that way, it kind of 1355 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 5: shifts how you view it and perceive it and respect 1356 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 5: it and deserves fucking respect. 1357 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 4: That's right, you know. 1358 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 2: And our our episodes on that they were on the 1359 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: top fifty charts for like weeks and weeks. I think 1360 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 2: it's like episodes like two seventeen to eighteen, two nineteen. 1361 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly, but they I mean, we've gotten 1362 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 2: more messages about those episodes than people everyone can relate 1363 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 2: to that, that's right. And I think also the fact 1364 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 2: that like we all hold on to these these ideas 1365 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 2: of what our partner thinks, and we don't release them 1366 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 2: because you know, it's not comfortable to talk about. And 1367 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 2: I hold on to them for years. I still hold 1368 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 2: on to them. I still need that that, you know, 1369 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: like those affirmations like you said, this for me is 1370 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 2: like I'm ready to go home and have sex because 1371 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 2: he like you. 1372 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Know you much. 1373 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 4: So welcome. 1374 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Seriously, Like I think that that's not something you do 1375 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,439 Speaker 2: just hear once, right, you need to hear it again 1376 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 2: and again and again. 1377 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 1: And it's so much easier than you think it's going 1378 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: to be. Like I've I said before where there has 1379 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: been more. Now we're saying your builders. You know, hey, listen, 1380 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: you know when we go out, I feel that because 1381 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 1: you're not and you look so beautiful. Like it's they've 1382 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: never said that before, but they listened to our episode 1383 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they were just able to 1384 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: say it because. 1385 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 2: So much and it's so easy to do. And our book, 1386 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 2: The Day and Night Questions also has a lot of 1387 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 2: topics on that. We have a like a things you 1388 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 2: want your partner to know, so something you've never said 1389 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 2: to them before or they'd never said to you before 1390 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 2: and you can communicate for the first time ever without 1391 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 2: having you know, the stress of like, oh my god, 1392 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 2: what are they going to think? 1393 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 6: Like? 1394 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 2: It's a very gentle way to talk about it. So 1395 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 2: we we recommend also the date night questions to do that. 1396 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 3: And speaking of date night questions, we're gonna do our 1397 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 3: tearro and they we're gonna wrap up and usually we 1398 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 3: have I forgot the deck at the hotel room because because, 1399 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 3: But today's taro was ten of cups and the ten 1400 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 3: of Cups represents happiness, joy, content, and emotional satisfaction in 1401 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 3: your family, relationship, or companion. This is where all your dreams, 1402 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 3: needs and wishes have been fulfilled and you feel a 1403 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 3: complete sense of satisfaction. This card is most associated with 1404 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 3: a sense of happily ever after, of family, of lasting 1405 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 3: harmony and peace and I love reading This card shows 1406 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 3: something romantic, real and genuine that has a strong potential 1407 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 3: for something that will last. It deserves all of your 1408 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 3: effort to make it come true. The ten of Cups 1409 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,799 Speaker 3: could also indicate a family holiday where you can relax, 1410 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 3: the retreat and spend time with yourself. It's as family members, 1411 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 3: but I have to switch it up. 1412 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:52,719 Speaker 4: It's not perfect, but it's happily. 1413 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 3: It's forever and look just like a couple on two kids, 1414 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 3: like looking really gleefully into the sunlight. 1415 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 4: So I love this for you. 1416 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the people where they can find you. We're 1417 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 3: so happy to have you on again. We're so grateful. 1418 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 3: We always learned so much for you from you. Damn, 1419 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 3: I'm drunk. 1420 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Marriage and Martina. Marriage and Martinis. 1421 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 4: The name, it's not a cute name. 1422 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,559 Speaker 2: It's podcast the Truth Serum. 1423 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 3: Yes, they're like you can take little bottles on the 1424 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 3: airplane and trust me it works. 1425 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yes, we have all the so so 1426 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 2: we're Marriage of Martini's on Instagram. We have a really 1427 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 2: fun Instagram account Marriage of Martinis. Or if you go 1428 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 2: to marriage to Martinis dot com you can get our 1429 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 2: dat night questions. Also our famous like world famous now 1430 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 2: body image episodes. We also have a guide to that 1431 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 2: which is called let Yourself Go. If you want to 1432 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 2: go and purchase that and have a little like, you know, 1433 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,599 Speaker 2: time with yourself for your partner or whatever and talk about, 1434 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 2: you know, how you're feeling about your body image and 1435 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,879 Speaker 2: your journey and everything. 1436 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: And she was just asking me where that. 1437 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 4: Existed business. You're gonna be a page. 1438 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,759 Speaker 2: I was going through my journey. 1439 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: I'm sold. 1440 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 2: When I was going through my journey of my body 1441 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 2: image thing, I I wrote this journal and I wrote 1442 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,719 Speaker 2: questions for people, and you know a lot of people 1443 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 2: feel the same way that I do. That. Look, you know, 1444 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 2: regardless of your size or whatever, we're all going through 1445 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 2: some kind of physical journey. And it was really about 1446 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 2: honoring that journey and whatever it is, and understanding that 1447 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 2: your sexiness comes from that journey. And I truly believe that. 1448 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 2: And it's to the point where I had said to 1449 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 2: Adam in the episode, even if you can't honor that journey, 1450 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 2: if you don't understand that journey, then I need to 1451 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 2: move on. And I truly believe that because I think 1452 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:12,600 Speaker 2: you said pack your bag. But seriously, you know, I 1453 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 2: think that that is very true. You know, you, like 1454 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 2: we're all talking about, you have one life and you have. 1455 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 4: One body, and the it is real, and that's aging 1456 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 4: process is real. Changes happen. 1457 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 5: You can't stop it. I don't give a fuck what 1458 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,560 Speaker 5: you do, what kind of doctor you have. That is 1459 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 5: the one thing you can't You're not You're gonna die 1460 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 5: and you will age. Those are the Those are the 1461 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 5: two truths if you if you live this life to 1462 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 5: the end. 1463 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 2: And to compare our bodies and our journeys to our partners, 1464 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, if they're not having children, and if they're not, 1465 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 2: it's it's it's completely unfair. And and I have made 1466 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 2: so much peace with myself about my body to the 1467 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: point where I always say, like, I stand in front 1468 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 2: of a mirror after my shower and I'm like, yeah, 1469 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 2: you feel like you're sexy. And then I go out 1470 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,679 Speaker 2: into the world and I'm like, WHOA, what is everybody 1471 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,759 Speaker 2: else thinking? And and that is my my biggest challenge, 1472 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 2: you know, is not what I think about myself, because 1473 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 2: when I'm in my room thinking about myself, it's much 1474 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 2: different than when I go into the world. But I'm 1475 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 2: trying to hold on to what I think about myself 1476 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 2: and hold on to the fact that I have a 1477 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 2: husband who you know, I know appreciates our journey and 1478 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 2: loves our journey. So we're working on it and yours. 1479 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 3: You guys get a lot. You guys walk around like 1480 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 3: naked at him more him, you should like walk around 1481 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 3: the panties in the room. 1482 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,560 Speaker 2: Kids don't fit we have teenage. 1483 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 4: And walk around underwear in front of your kids. 1484 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 2: Have you have you. 1485 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 4: A speedo yet? 1486 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 1: No? Wait, start over? 1487 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 2: But honestly, like teenagers, people are like, I want to 1488 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,800 Speaker 2: do all the things. You don't realize how hard is 1489 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 2: to have a sex life with teenagers business. 1490 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 4: Dogs and they actually they know that, they know the signs. 1491 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you just locked your door. 1492 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 4: They're suspicious. 1493 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Well, they ask you if you're having sex. 1494 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: They're the worst cock seven living in our house besides us. Yes, 1495 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: there's our house. 1496 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 2: Of course, when we were younger, who is that me? 1497 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: And start over? 1498 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, so so when we were younger, yeah, okay. 1499 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 4: On that note, you will have to listen to that 1500 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 4: horror on Patreon. Should go to patre dot combat anywhere 1501 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 4: else anything else that we need to people need to 1502 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 4: know that. 1503 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 2: People. 1504 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 5: You need to go get the date Night Questions experience 1505 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 5: Tonight with Danielle's body image. 1506 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 2: If you go on our e books. It's only in 1507 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 2: any book. Right now. We have a parent in Questions 1508 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 2: book coming out soon which is all the parents in Questions. 1509 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,759 Speaker 2: You should have been asked but you weren't. 1510 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's like our book. Literally, what the fuck. 1511 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 6: No one asked, no one, No one thought about these 1512 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,680 Speaker 6: questions for us. Right, if I have the questions, I 1513 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 6: probably still won't let them come in me. 1514 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a very unconventional parenting way, which can 1515 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 2: be documented in all the truancy your letters we've gotten 1516 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 2: for our kids. 1517 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: And you better talk about how fucking much the kids 1518 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 1: love us because of that in that book. 1519 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,719 Speaker 2: No, our kids love our podcasts. They love uh yeah, they. 1520 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Love our unconventional parenting. 1521 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 2: Of course they do. They state not so much. 1522 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,879 Speaker 4: They're going to be amazing humans and adults. 1523 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1524 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,719 Speaker 2: I do believe that. I do. I really do believe 1525 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:50,799 Speaker 2: that we've already raised Our kids are already like huge 1526 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 2: like allies and advocates, and they they write postcards and 1527 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 2: they do all the things. 1528 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go. 1529 01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 4: We're good. 1530 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 2: I'm molested, she's right about her, she's too drunk. 1531 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 1: Let's she needs food. 1532 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 5: You guys will leave all of the information this episode description. 1533 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 5: Make sure you go check out marriage and Martini's on 1534 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,799 Speaker 5: all podcast platforms. Check out our friends Danielle and Adam. 1535 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 5: They're the bomb or the Ship. Thank you guys for training. 1536 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 4: Back on you guys, We love you. 1537 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 5: Make sure you go rate and review this episode. If 1538 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 5: you're not subscribed to YouTube, go ahead, what the fuck 1539 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 5: are you doing? Put the subscribe watch watch us in 1540 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 5: all of our glory here and what else? 1541 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 3: Check out the Good Vibratory, it's coming up. If you 1542 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 3: haven't booked a summer vacation, now is the time you 1543 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 3: need to be cared for. 1544 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 2: You need a break, And I'm going to I'm going 1545 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 2: to Pete. 1546 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 3: We're making Daniel come. And if you haven't yet, to 1547 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 3: Master in the Bathroom. If you haven't bought the book yet, 1548 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 3: grab a Good Mom's Guide to Making Bad Choices and 1549 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 3: we love you. 1550 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 4: We'll see you next week. Bye bye. 1551 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Solo record 1552 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 6: Las