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Speaker 2: Hinchtager's manager with us right now, Ajinski, why don't you

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Speaker 2: tell him what's been going on at the winter meetings

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Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear him? No, you can't hear him. He

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Speaker 3: wants to know.

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Speaker 4: I want you to tell him what's been going on,

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Speaker 4: like you want me want to tell him?

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Speaker 5: Well, I said that the Guardians traded for show, Hey,

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Speaker 5: Mookie and Freddie in the last hour, and schoobl went

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Speaker 5: to the Dodgers, and then Carpenter, green Dingler Torkelsen went

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Speaker 6: I don't like any part of I don't like any

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Speaker 6: part of your fantasy.

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Speaker 5: The other thing I'll say about Hinch, all the managers

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Speaker 5: we've had on and all the managers we talked to,

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Speaker 5: I think you're the one.

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Speaker 3: Guy that enjoys us.

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Speaker 6: It's which part to all the media and all the

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Speaker 6: people your people?

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Speaker 7: Ah not when not when you're gonna trade like all

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Speaker 7: my whole team, and like everybody wants to ask me

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Speaker 7: questions about about Schoobl, But I I I do like

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Speaker 7: the industry togetherness at an event, like it's like my

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Speaker 7: favorite times at this event is like last night with

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Speaker 7: like eight managers, you know, around a round table, just

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Speaker 7: kind of catching up and small fraternity of of guys

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Speaker 7: who have the same job, And I like that part

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Speaker 7: of it. Walking through the lobby of this place is

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Speaker 7: a is an experience in itself. But I guess I've

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Speaker 7: a lot of different people. The quick hello is is great.

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Speaker 7: The camaraderie with the managers is great. You come on

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Speaker 7: shows like this and you trade my entire roster, I'm

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Speaker 7: not great at all.

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Speaker 4: We have a nicer person than to ask you a question.

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Speaker 8: Did you invite Blake Terra to that little roundtable or

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Speaker 8: is he not? Does he not count yet because he's

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Speaker 8: not a big league manager.

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Speaker 7: You know, I haven't met him yet. He wasn't there

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Speaker 7: last night. We we will definitely see him. We have

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Speaker 7: some some a manager meeting tomorrow where we're gonna sort

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Speaker 7: of unveil everybody around the around the table. But if

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Speaker 7: I see him, I'd love to talk to him. Don't

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Speaker 7: backgnize if he looks like one of the kids looking

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Speaker 6: And you know what's funny is feel in these jobs.

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Speaker 6: And I know you guys probably feel old as the

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Speaker 7: Is is I was that guy like fifteen years ago

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Speaker 7: and it's like Bobby Cox, Tito Gaston, Tony LaRussa, uh,

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Speaker 7: Dusty Baker, and I'm like, I look twelve compared to

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Speaker 3: We just had Torion.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and he he asked us about Utera and

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting here talking to him and I'm like, he

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Speaker 5: could be my son.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel that old, but when I look at him,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, it's I mean, he's got a challenge ahead

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Speaker 7: of himself, just in terms of, like, you know, the

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Speaker 7: the knowing what to do. The baseball part will be

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Speaker 7: really easy. It's all this extra stuff that I think

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Speaker 7: you learn over the years, the communication up to the

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Speaker 7: the challenges ahead. But if if they didn't believe in him,

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Speaker 7: they wouldn't have picked them. And I think he's I'm

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Speaker 7: curious to get to know him because I want to

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Speaker 7: looking forward to Albi in this role. Albi's never done it,

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Speaker 7: He's been in baseball forever. I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 7: That's gonna be awesome, and we have a new a

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Speaker 7: new group joining this small fraternity. And once you're in,

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Speaker 7: you're in, and I and I think you'll have a

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Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead, Kratzy.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, I was just gonna say, do you think

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Speaker 8: remember hearing some of your stories that you told me

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think the value is separating support

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Speaker 7: with directives that they're very different. Like you need support

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Speaker 7: you're trying to combine that with a lot of things.

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Speaker 7: If you're getting directives that you that that you're getting

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're just going right into it. I did your

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Speaker 5: series against Seattle. We're standing in the clubhouse in Seattle

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Speaker 5: with Scott Harris, me and you. Scott Harris, I think

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Speaker 5: we you know, standing there, Trek Scuobel walks by. And

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Speaker 5: what I say to What did I ask Scott Harris when.

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Speaker 6: School you basically tried to broker a deal?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I said, when are you going to sign this guy?

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Speaker 1: So when is the.

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Speaker 3: Deal going to get done? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: That is that mean?

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Speaker 6: That's the beauty of man.

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Speaker 7: It's not my job, but I I I don't know

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Speaker 7: what's going to happen. I know that I have the

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Speaker 7: easiest job in baseball, Like I pitched this dude, like

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Speaker 7: it's super simple for me, and so I want to

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Speaker 7: think about that, he's got a chance to three peat

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Speaker 7: as the cy Young Award winner that you're not gonna

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Speaker 7: can in that moment. You know, I'm notn't sure if

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Speaker 6: But it's it's a it again. It's it's a good problem,

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Speaker 7: You know why all this noise is around tered Schooble.

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Speaker 7: He's the best, Like, he is the best guy that

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Speaker 7: free agent after this season. Murph's all over me.

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Speaker 2: I know, Well, Murph's like commentating on our show from

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Speaker 6: Murph's just pissed that we beat.

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Speaker 7: We used to beat them all over the field at

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Speaker 7: a sudden trying to take out Milwaukee, which is a

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Speaker 6: Stanford, Arizona State. Super simple, just go in, go beat.

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Speaker 7: A little more difficult now that he's he's got to rank.

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Speaker 7: We're an acc powerhouse right now.

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Speaker 2: You can ask you a question, so you've Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: an experienced manager. I think that you probably have more

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Speaker 4: There's like ten new managers or something.

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Speaker 2: Right, They're not going to barge into the front office

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think it's simple.

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Speaker 7: I think we're trying to win the World Series, like

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Speaker 7: we've worked hard to go from like ten plus years

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Speaker 7: And so for me, like keep it super simple, of

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Speaker 7: Series and do everything you can to add to that.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: I have some experience in this of of big platform

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Speaker 6: His position to be in.

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Speaker 7: But they those like that what Garrett did, and the

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Speaker 7: And so you just stay positive along that way until

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Speaker 7: Is way more important than getting caught up in like

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Speaker 7: what if or oh my god, this rumor or oh

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Speaker 6: Every team wants him, Every team should want him.

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Speaker 7: He's the best pitcher in baseball, and there there are

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Speaker 8: But you have him right now. So what piece are

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Speaker 8: What pushes you to that to that World Series? This year?

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Speaker 7: So, we had a top ten offense in baseball for

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Speaker 6: We struggled. I think we finished eleventh, So I.

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Speaker 7: Think part of that is the growth of our young

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Speaker 7: emerging young players you guys are gonna have on your show,

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Speaker 7: and you guys are going to love these guys. They're

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Speaker 8: You can always use some extra people helping these guys

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Speaker 8: Alex Bregman. You talked to him last year about trying,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when you chase something for an entire offseason and

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Speaker 6: He only picks his favorite.

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Speaker 7: You know, you get asked a lot of questions about

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Speaker 8: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: What do you minute?

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Speaker 6: What Trek scoobl is I young? What like?

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Speaker 7: all about which is postseason baseball. I have a frost

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Speaker 6: In the big leagues.

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Speaker 7: That's valuable and that that experience should pay dividends when

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I have two quite quick questions for you. One,

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a great assumption that I'm over it as

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Speaker 7: I haven't seen Dan Wilson yet, but I don't even

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Speaker 7: You know, are there so many times like we're running

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Speaker 8: Did you did you see what Doc did with Yamamoto

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Speaker 7: You would look at your guys and have a full

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Speaker 3: And so good good can we put you? Can we

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like, he could have gone twenty more pitches.

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Speaker 5: Like you just said, yeah, when he has that dump,

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Speaker 7: because no matter what, I've.

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00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 5: Never seen a manager and I've told you is give

443
00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 5: me more answers for every scenario before the Game's like

444
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 5: when you have the manager meeting, he explains everything, and no,

445
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 5: you can't use it on the air, but he gives

446
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 5: you stuff and you're like, man, he just dude has

447
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 5: thought about things that I would never think about crafts,

448
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 5: Like he's thinking about if alien lands and the right field,

449
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 5: how he's gonna make him be the right fielder and

450
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 5: we're gonna Revilely green his center and we're gonna do this,

451
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what that never happens, But at least

452
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 5: he thought about it.

453
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 7: The thing that's interesting about those decisions is I don't

454
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 7: know how much how impactful it was for him knowing

455
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 7: going into that last inning, did that help him punch

456
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 7: out everybody? Like, Hey, I know I'm done and I'm

457
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 7: emptying my tank emotionally and physically. I don't know, And

458
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 7: I don't know what would have happened if we send

459
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 7: him back out, you know, I mean, I think the

460
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 7: questions would have been, you know, if he leaves with

461
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 7: the guys on base and somebody cashes in his runs,

462
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 7: It's like Hejay, he had the emotional outburst. He was gassed,

463
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 7: he was done, he's pissed all these in you didn't

464
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 7: protect your horse, Like that's just the nature of managing

465
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 7: man That's what all these the new managers are going

466
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 7: to learn, Like it doesn't matter. Are really what your

467
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 7: process did. The results are really what a lot of

468
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 7: judgment comes by. I have to work on a lot,

469
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 7: a lot more information than than the emotion of wanting more.

470
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 6: From a picture.

471
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 3: And it's tough.

472
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's that's why we you know, that's

473
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 7: why we get shown on your broadcast. Like every time

474
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 7: something stressful happens, you guys turn right to me.

475
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 6: Well, of course, look at that face. It's made for television.

476
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: It's what the people want. It's just what the people want.

477
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: But hey, we can go all day and this good

478
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: to see you, dude. You really appreciate the time. As always,

479
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: we'll talk there in the season. Enjoy the holidays. Hey,

480
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 2: manager's meeting. He's coming in hot right now. Mark's chasing

481
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: the Sorry, we're gonna talk to Walt Wise, who I love.

482
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: We were, you know, talking about the move when it happened,

483
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: when you were announced as manager. We're super pumped about it,

484
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: as I know you're looking forward to get back getting

485
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: back in that seat, and you would have just wrote

486
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: it out with with snip for a while. But you're like, hey,

487
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm ready, So congratulations, great to see you.

488
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 4: What do you got for us?

489
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 9: You know, process to move fast, and you know, Alex

490
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 9: called me, told me I got the job, and you know,

491
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 9: twenty four hours later, less than that, I was I

492
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 9: was at a press conference in Atlanta. So you know,

493
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 9: it's it slowed down a little bit. Now we're just

494
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 9: trying to make our team better. You know, when Alex

495
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 9: never stops trying to do that. So he's doing it

496
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 9: as we speak. But uh, and I'm excited, man, excited

497
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 9: to get a chance to do it with this club,

498
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 9: you know, and for the people I work with.

499
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: Did you say, why did it take so long? It

500
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 2: took him like a month at public? Oh, you know what,

501
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: we just want to make sure we got it right.

502
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, you had the right guy.

503
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 9: But it'll be honest, it probably it works better for me.

504
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 9: You know, if they didn't just hand me the job.

505
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 9: The first time we lose the series, they're going to say,

506
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 9: why the hell did they do it? A manager search?

507
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 9: You know, so you know what the process worked out? Well,

508
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, you're in limbo for a little while,

509
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 9: and but uh, but in the end, I think it

510
00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 9: was it was the best best case.

511
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 8: Well, you're still happy he took the job. I mean,

512
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 8: all these meetings, you haven't.

513
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 3: Even had a hard time to get cratsy.

514
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 5: I don't think he wants You're still happy you took

515
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 5: the job because you got all these meetings and you're

516
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 5: the guy in charge.

517
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: Basically what he's asking.

518
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I hear you, cratsy. No, it's all good, man,

519
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 9: That's what you sign up for, you know. That's what

520
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 9: I keep telling myself anytimes something annoys me. I say, hey, man,

521
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 9: you signed up for this, so it's all good.

522
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 3: But how do how does Alex keep everything so quiet?

523
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's unbelievable.

524
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 5: Nobody even knows who the cares.

525
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know who interviewed.

526
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 5: You got the tightest ship he does, and all of

527
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 5: a sudden, everyone's like, what yeah, which is awesome, But

528
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 5: oh yeah, he he operates underground.

529
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 9: Man, you got a really really small inner circle, you know,

530
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 9: and so he doesn't share a lot of information and

531
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 9: he likes it that way and he's good at it.

532
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: But uh, he's.

533
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 9: Pretty relentless, you know, you just never see him working. Yeah,

534
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 9: he's you know, he's underground.

535
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 8: Isn't that? Isn't that who you Isn't that who you

536
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 8: want to work for? Though? Isn't that? Isn't that who

537
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 8: you want to work for? Is that somebody that you're

538
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 8: sitting there going, you know what?

539
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: I don't think you can hear you keep going, crats

540
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell them.

541
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 8: Okay, just that it's somebody that you want to work for,

542
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 8: somebody that's tight knit and only puts people around them

543
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 8: that are trustworthy, people that are keeping I know everyone's

544
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 8: seeing it as keeping secrets, but it's Isn't that who

545
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 8: you want to work for? Not somebody who's like, oh

546
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 8: look who I'm interviewing? Look at us?

547
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know you're you're right, cratsy. I mean there's

548
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 9: something to be said about it. And you got to

549
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 9: earn his trust too, you know, when here he shares

550
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 9: information with you. Of course, I'm the manager. I mean

551
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 9: that's that's that's a partnership now. But typically you know,

552
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 9: with Alex, you got to earn his trust man for

553
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 9: him to share information with you, And yeah, you don't

554
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 9: want your stuff floating around to you know the world,

555
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 9: I mean, all all your information some sad media folk.

556
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

557
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly right for you guys, it's not great, but

558
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 9: well you know, he he he uh. I like the

559
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 9: way he operates, man, and he never stops working.

560
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: All right.

561
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: I got two questions for you before you before we

562
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 5: let you go, so we know you got to go

563
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 5: somewhere else. One have you threatened to beat up a

564
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 5: player yet a bench? People that don't know this man

565
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 5: is like a seventeen time black belder.

566
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 9: And all kinds of I'm an old man, a j oh,

567
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 9: stop it these players.

568
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: True, that's true, that's true. That's why it's strong, and

569
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: he will beat your ass. But my other thing is

570
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 3: this is one of the things that I want to know.

571
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: Everyone Braves fans will say, oh, it's just snicker It's

572
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: just Snicker Park two right now.

573
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 3: I love Brian Sticker. I was there when he took over.

574
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 3: What's your difference in managing?

575
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 9: Yeah?

576
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: And look, I get it.

577
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 9: I've had to answer this question a lot, and I

578
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 9: I understand it. I'll ask people, you know, are you

579
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 9: just like the people you work with?

580
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: You know?

581
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 9: I mean, and when you when you when you think

582
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 9: about it, I mean, it's it's kind of absurd.

583
00:25:59,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: Now.

584
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 9: I love Snitt and I'm I'm so grateful to Snit.

585
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be here without him. He brought me back

586
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 9: into a Braves uniform. I learned a lot from him,

587
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 9: just like I learned from all the other managers I've

588
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 9: been around. You know, I started with LaRussa and ending

589
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 9: with Bobby Cox and and the managers in between and

590
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 9: and ending up with Snit. But my personality is different.

591
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 9: My leadership style is going to be different. You know,

592
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 9: it's a different voice. So yeah, it's kind of a

593
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 9: lazy take you to be honest with you, you know,

594
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 9: but I get it, you know, because I've been there

595
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 9: for the last eight years. What's going to change. But

596
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 9: I haven't been in that leadership uh position in the

597
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 9: last eight years, so it's been a very different role.

598
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 9: I've been in a supporting role, So you know, I

599
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 9: love Snitt, But yeah, if if if he was, if

600
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 9: he was taking over from me, I would expect him

601
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 9: to say the same things.

602
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: Well said, wow, great to see you, and congratulations, appreciate it, bro,

603
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: thank you guys.

604
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 4: Talk in the season. Actually, we'll see in spring. Training.

605
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you need a backup bullpen coach. You can

606
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: call me.

607
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 9: You ready man, back up bread day. You don't want

608
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 9: to do You're having fun doing this, but you know what, you.

609
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: Don't want to go training and then he's out.

610
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: Especially, just think training was a disney where it used

611
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: to be that great. I could just travel over.

612
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: New Nationals manager Blake Viutera is here with us at

613
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: the winter meetings. Blake, great to meet you in person.

614
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the gig. How's life lately?

615
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: Thank you? Life's good. Life's good. Uh, sleep not so much,

616
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: but other than that, everything's good.

617
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

618
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: What are you up to when you first just get

619
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: a role like this and it's with an organization that

620
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: now is a new front office, what's your day to day?

621
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: Like?

622
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: A lot of the day to day lately has been

623
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: trying to take care of the five week old baby,

624
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: So that's that's a little different. No, but it's been good.

625
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: Just I mean hiring the staff obviously first and foremost,

626
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: which you know, is a beast of a process when

627
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: you're hiring a twelve person staff and interviewing a lot

628
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: of different people, and yeah, trying to get everybody get

629
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: to know everybody in the organization. A lot of that.

630
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: What what what do you have? What's your uh role

631
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: in the high process? I know you're in the interviews.

632
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: Do you go to Paul Tivoni, who we had on

633
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 5: yesterday and say I like this person or I want

634
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 5: this person, or I want I like this guy, or

635
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 5: does he come to you and say, hey, I've got

636
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: a guy that I really like?

637
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: So how does that process work?

638
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 5: And how do you do you have like a roll

639
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: a decks of people that you go through or your

640
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 5: contact on your phone and say, oh, this person this

641
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: person was a combination.

642
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Of yeah, it's a little bit of both. So it

643
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: was Paul and then our AGM group basically the five

644
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: of us involved in in the interview process, and a

645
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: lot of it was like they might have a few names.

646
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: I had a few names, Paul had a couple of names,

647
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like and we kind of like start from there and

648
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: then when we narrated it down to a certain amount,

649
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: we'd all talk to the person and at the end

650
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: we'd get together and if they really like somebody, they'd

651
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Blake, like, what do you go with

652
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: this one?

653
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

654
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. If I really like somebody I'd go

655
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: to them. Hey, you guys feel good about it. So

656
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: it's just a collaborative process.

657
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 8: What are you looking for? What's the what are the

658
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 8: character traits or experience level the whole year it's going

659
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 8: to be talked about for you, is experience When you

660
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 8: bring in a guy like Randy Nor tons of big

661
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 8: league experience, is that something that is intimidating, Okay, he's

662
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 8: got a lot of big lead experience. Or is it

663
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 8: like I'm leaning on a guy like that, and is

664
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 8: that the character traits that you're looking for in guys

665
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 8: that are gonna fill out your staff.

666
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what we're looking for first and foremost,

667
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: just like you hear Paul talk a lot about it

668
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: in terms of relationships alignment, I want to make sure

669
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: we're bringing in people first that that care about player development.

670
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: We have a young roster, really young roster, and I

671
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: think one thing that stood out the most when talking

672
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: to every single one of our players individually was just

673
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: like they just feel like there's another gear they can

674
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: get to. They're like, we're not finished products by any means. Yes,

675
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: we're in the big leagues, but it's not like roll

676
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: the balls out there and go get them. They're like,

677
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: we have another another gear we need to get to.

678
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: We want to be pushed. We want a staff that

679
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: is gonna is gonna, you know, bring us out early

680
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: every day and show us where we can be better

681
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: and how we're gonna get there and things of that nature.

682
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: So when you're looking at building out of staff, that

683
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: was that was first and foremost, making sure somebody with

684
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: a player development background, and then obviously, you know, hiring

685
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: and Michael John's our bench coach, Like I wanted to

686
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: hire somebody I could fill my blind spots. Guy that's

687
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: he's been in the minor leagues a long time, in

688
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: the big leagues of the race for the last couple

689
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: of years. So not really a recipe in terms of

690
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: age old versus young, just more about getting good people.

691
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: And they cracked the code to a j. Do you

692
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 2: know what it was for hitting coaches specifically, hire someone

693
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: coming from the Twins, Dave hitting whisper.

694
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: And trying to figure where you're going with this guy.

695
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I'm going, So you just hide around,

696
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: let you pronounce his name because I'm still learning it.

697
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: But tell us about how that all went down.

698
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt BORGSCHALTI Yeah, had known Mat a little bit

699
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: back when he was with Baltimore. So he originally started

700
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: with the Twins, worked up their minor league system, and

701
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: then joined the Orioles right at the time where a

702
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: lot of that young group was coming up with you know,

703
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: with Adlee and Jackson and a lot of a lot

704
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: of those young guys that are now more established guys

705
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: with the Orioles and did a really good job over

706
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: there and then went to Minnesota. Uh, Rocko hired him

707
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: this past year, and then obviously, you know, things changed

708
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and they kind of started from trash with

709
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: the with the new staff. But yeah, to your point,

710
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: if we get another one like that, we'd be pretty happy.

711
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 8: You talked about early work. Big leaguers like aj Perzinski

712
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 8: do not want to see their name on early work

713
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 8: list because he has a routine. Guys have routines. How

714
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 8: do you guys have a young staff teach them, hey,

715
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 8: you got to work, but make it that it's their

716
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 8: routine and not okay up to ten. I'm in early

717
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 8: work with Michael John. I'm in. I'm in you know, outfield,

718
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 8: I'm I'm in base running. How do you make it

719
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 8: their routine because if you're told to do something, you

720
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 8: don't learn Jack, if you're asked to do something, you excel.

721
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 8: And guys like James would they're they're sponges. They want this,

722
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 8: they want to get all this information.

723
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, you're spot on, You're one hundred percent right.

724
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: A lot of it's gonna be leaning on the players

725
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: and showing them kind of like where we see them

726
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: right now, where we think they can get to and

727
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: letting them kind of lead the process. Like if they

728
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: want to buy into this, they want to they want

729
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: to do it, Like it's gonna have to be driven

730
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: by them at the end of the day. Like as

731
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: a staff, we can't tell players what to do every day.

732
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Like they need to be self motivated to an extent,

733
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: and they need to be the ones, Hey, let's go

734
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: out there for earlier. Let's just let's get some ground balls.

735
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: Then let's go hit a little bit extra, let's do this,

736
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: let's do that. Like hopefully we're creating a culture where

737
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: where that kind of becomes the norm. And just in

738
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these conversations with the players so far,

739
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: it seems like that's what they want.

740
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: What do the Rays do so well because everybody wants

741
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: to be the Rais and you came through the We've

742
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: been in with the Raids for a long time, and

743
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 5: now here you are, you get to build your own staff.

744
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: You kind of get to build your own team. What

745
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: do the Rays do?

746
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: Because because every Marlin's Peter Bendix raised even the Dodgers.

747
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: Friedman came from the Rays. Heinin bloom is now the

748
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 5: Cardinals from the Rays, right everyone. Derek Shelton was a

749
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: raised guy. Right now he's a manager of the Twins.

750
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: Rocco was a raised guy. He's a manager of the Twins.

751
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: What did the Rays do that's so special? Please tell

752
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: me their secret?

753
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: I personally think it's the culture. I think like just

754
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable place to work, like you come into.

755
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: Starting from where from Stu Sternberg is no longer the

756
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: owner to Ander to Kevin Cash all the way down.

757
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Stu started that and then obviously, you know,

758
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Andrew Friedman is now with the Dodgers, and then Eric

759
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: Neander were fully bought into it, and you know, you

760
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: know Stu was like his saying was, uh, you know,

761
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: break windows, just don't burn the house down. So he's

762
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: like he wanted us to try things, he wanted us

763
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: to fail, he wanted us to be innovative. He was like,

764
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: look like, you're only gonna get better if you If

765
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: you try some things and learn what doesn't work, you're

766
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: probably gonna fail more often than you than you don't.

767
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: But try some things and don't be afraid to do

768
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: so it's just it. It made it a really fun

769
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: culture to be a part of, and staff loved coming

770
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: to work every day, and it kind of bled into

771
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: the players where they were like, this is awesome, Like

772
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: they enjoyed coming to work every day, they knew the

773
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: staff cared about them as people. And I think when

774
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: you create an environment where like just players and staff

775
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: love to be there, like you get your best work.

776
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: And I think we were able to tap into some

777
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool things with different players and obviously different staff

778
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: members too, that you see with other organizations throughout the game.

779
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 8: I was, I was part of fourteen different organizations, nine

780
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 8: in the big leagues, just bounced around everywhere. I saw

781
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 8: the Rays for about six weeks, and I completely agree

782
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 8: with what you said. But because I heard Kevin Cash

783
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 8: say we're gonna try this, like somebody from the front

784
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 8: office said this. One of our coaches said this, We're

785
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 8: gonna try it, but they have a lot more leeway.

786
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 8: Do you feel like you're the same leeway in Washington.

787
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 8: I'm not saying you're going to a huge market, but

788
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 8: I'm saying, do you have that same leeway where it's like, Blake,

789
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 8: that was a dumb idea, but we're okay with it.

790
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 8: We tried it, move on or is it Blake putered?

791
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 8: Did that get him out of here? You know what

792
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 8: I mean? Because you see Washington and the ownership firing

793
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 8: a lot of people year in and year out, from

794
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 8: a staff to managers, to pitching coaches to all that stuff.

795
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Yeah, you're exactly right. And I think that

796
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: was one thing that's probably the first thing I brought

797
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: up during the interview process with with Altibony. It was

798
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: just like, hey, like, the Raised culture is unbelievable. My

799
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: wife and I just really enjoyed our time there. It

800
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: felt like family. It was a place we love to be.

801
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: So I told Paul, I'm like, hey, if I'm like

802
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: that's something that's really important to me and if I

803
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: want to make this change to a new organization, to

804
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: the race for eleven years and a lot of people

805
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: are there, are there a long time because of that,

806
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: and Paul, you know, he made sure to let me

807
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: know that, hey, you're gonna be able to do that here.

808
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: That's that's part of what the reason why he wanted

809
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: to come over there is just the people and the

810
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: culture ownership made him feel like this was something that

811
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 1: they're they're buying into and they're believing in. And Paul

812
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: reiterated the same, that's just to myself. So we'll see

813
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: when we get when we get there and the season

814
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: gets rolling, But as far as I'm aware, like that's

815
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: kind of how we're gonna run.

816
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: When you and Paul sat down, did you say everybody

817
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 5: has to be under the age of forty every every

818
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: person that works in the organization has to be under

819
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 5: forty years old.

820
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: That was the rule, wasn't I think?

821
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean that's when you look at your stuff.

822
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 5: I guess Randy Nor is older than forty, but everyone

823
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: else is like thirty, You're thirty three, yeah, yeah, and

824
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 5: Paul is thirty five, thirty five. So did you guys

825
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 5: really have a conversation about we want just the youngest

826
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: staff ever assembled? And we're gonna have so much energy

827
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: that no one can stop us.

828
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: No, you're probably think online, but we didn't. No, it's

829
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: it just ended up happening that way. And I really

830
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: it was like every higher it was. You know, we

831
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: had a handful of names for each each role, and

832
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: we talked to each of them, and it was at

833
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day it was like, yeah, another

834
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: young guy. Like we didn't plan on it, but we

835
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: understand kind of what we're walking into and we wanted

836
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: to make one hundred percent certain that, like this was

837
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: the best person for the job, regardless of age. But yeah,

838
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: it's it's been a the young staff that's coming together,

839
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: all right.

840
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: I asked Paul Taboni about not knowing people because he

841
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 8: wasn't with the ORG and all that stuff, and how

842
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 8: you move forward CJ. Abrams, we've seen, you know, maybe

843
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 8: some disciplinary things from the old staff from that with

844
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 8: when he since he's been with the Nationals. You know,

845
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 8: a young guy who has a lot of potential, how

846
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 8: do you approach that without being like, well, actually I

847
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 8: was reading because he doesn't you don't know him, he

848
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 8: doesn't know you. How do you approach a guy like

849
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 8: that who clearly has to be a huge corner piece

850
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 8: of your team and is completely different than James Wood,

851
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 8: who is this lockstep, super locked in kind of player,

852
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 8: and CJ. Abrams is a little bit different than that.

853
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 8: And you can't come to the table with a predisposed idea.

854
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 8: So how do you handle that situation?

855
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean CJ. I think first off, like just

856
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: reaching out to CJ as soon as I got the job,

857
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: that was something he told me he is super appreciative of.

858
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: And you know he's in Atlanta training right now, and

859
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: and he he knows he's a big part of this

860
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: and telling him that, like, hey, man, like you're gonna

861
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: be a leader on this team. You're gonna be a

862
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: big part of the success we have a lot of

863
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be based off of of how you go

864
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: about your business, how you how you help us win,

865
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: how you help our younger players continue to get better.

866
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of players on this team

867
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: that look up the CJ Abrams and want to be

868
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: c J Abrams. And I went to launch a Mackenzie

869
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: last week and you know, he told me he's, like

870
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: CJ is one of the leaders of this team. You know, obviously,

871
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: you know, you know what you mentioned. But he's young,

872
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: and he's a really really good player, and he's somebody

873
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: that we see being a huge piece of this thing

874
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: going forward. And I've enjoyed getting to know the person

875
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and it sounds like he he is

876
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: really excited about what we're building.

877
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 5: Okay, does I mean Mackenzie Gordon, c J Rims are

878
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: getting traded then if he's gonna be a big part

879
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 5: of going.

880
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

881
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: No, I think Paul told you guys like Paul called

882
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: MC and told him about the rumors.

883
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: He was great conversation.

884
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: But Kenzie brought that up in lunch. I just wanted

885
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: to get to know Mackenzie. I wanted to get to

886
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: know kind of how we can do a better job,

887
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: what he doesn't like about the Nationals, like what we

888
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: can fix. I'm trying to kind of understand. I get

889
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: a look under the hood from all these players and

890
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: get their perspective of like what we need to do better.

891
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: But no, he mentioned he was like dude, first off,

892
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: like Paul called me and told me this, and he

893
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: was like that was unbelievable. I just appreciate he's like

894
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: he didn't tell me I'm getting traded, but he you know,

895
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: he mentioned what was going on. He's like, I just

896
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: appreciate the him being up front about it.

897
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: I love that.

898
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: I love that you're pointing our meeting when telling all

899
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: the players, because that doesn't mean a lot to the

900
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: players when the new managers.

901
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 3: The front office weak except him.

902
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 5: But you got a new catcher for Yeah, you have

903
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: a catcher in Kiber Ruiz who signed to a long

904
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: term deal. Now with one of them gonna get you're

905
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 5: not trading for Are you gonna do a time.

906
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: Split deep kind of thing?

907
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna, you know, because that's gonna

908
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if that if it's Paul or you

909
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: that's gonna have to make that decision. But you know, Ruiz,

910
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 5: when he's health, he's used to playing. Andy Ford wants

911
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: to come over and play. And Harry Ford I called

912
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 5: him Henry Ford.

913
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: Harry Harry Ford.

914
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is his favorite player.

915
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: But I know, I but how do you manage that?

916
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: How do you manage a young guy who you need

917
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: to play to get better?

918
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 5: Because he was mind cal Rawley in Seattle and he's like, well,

919
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: he just signed a long term, Bill had sixty homers.

920
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna play and then he gets traded to

921
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 5: a team, your team. Then how does it catch already

922
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 5: signed to a long term deal, how do you manage

923
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: the playing time?

924
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with a catching position, as you know,

925
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, but you really can't

926
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: have a fine right, you can't have enough, and it's

927
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: really hard to find good catching. So it's it's a

928
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: good problem that we're looking forward to solving together as

929
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: a group. And I think coming into spring training, I mean,

930
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: we we love Keebert, we love we love Harry, obviously,

931
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: we love our catching group. I've got a chance to

932
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: talk to each of them, and we're gonna have a

933
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: good competition in spring training. These guys are gonna come

934
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: in and and come in and compete against one another

935
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: and work and kind of show what this thing's gonna

936
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: look like based off their own their own thing.

937
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: Go for Scotti might follow up, I got I gotta

938
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: follow up on this.

939
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: So with Ruiz, public metrics not good for him on defense?

940
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: Have you spoken to him about it? Like, have you

941
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: connected with him yet?

942
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: And if not, is that something that you can talk

943
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: to a player about over an offseason.

944
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 4: Hey, this is a new regime coming in.

945
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: How can we provide, like you said, better resources for

946
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: you to thrive on that side.

947
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you nailed it. That's exactly right. And you know,

948
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: we hired Bobby Wilson as our catching coach, who comes

949
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: over from Texas, did a heck of a job with

950
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: Jonaheim amongst others, Very highly respected in terms of what

951
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: he can do helping defensive catchers. And you know, he

952
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: already has like a page long of each of our

953
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: catchers and what he's gonna do to help each of

954
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: them and what they can do better at and it's

955
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: pretty in depth. It blew me away. And he's already

956
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: met with some of our catchers in West Palm Beach

957
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: and he's talked to Keeper on the phone. He's reached

958
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: out to Harry, like all these guys, Riley Drew likes,

959
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: he's talked to each one of them, so have I.

960
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I'm just really happy that we're able to

961
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: get Bobby.

962
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 8: What are you most nervous about when you got the

963
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 8: big league job? When they said besides the fact that

964
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 8: you had a baby on the way, that probably made

965
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 8: you more nervous than anything, but when you when they

966
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 8: said you're gonna be the manager of the Washington Nationals,

967
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 8: did you sit there and go, Holy crap, I've never

968
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 8: been what. I don't even know where the manager's offices are.

969
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 8: I don't even like know where anything is in these

970
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 8: big league state Like, is there one thing that you

971
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 8: were like, this might be a little bit of a

972
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 8: learning curve.

973
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there was one thing. But I mean

974
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: i'd be lying if I told you like, oh, yeah,

975
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: here you go, this is gonna be a cake walk.

976
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: Just don't do this. I'm gonna give you this advice.

977
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 5: Don't walk out and ask for the lefty with your

978
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 5: right arm, because it's happened to guys and they get

979
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 5: so just if you have to put like rn L

980
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: on your arm so when you walk out to the

981
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: mound you know which one to to call it.

982
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: Just don't do that and everything else will take care

983
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: of it.

984
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: So that might be the one thing I didn't think

985
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: about that. Oh no, I think yeah. I mean to

986
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: your point, like it's all gonna be new, right, It's

987
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: something that I haven't done before. I haven't managed the

988
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: big leagues before. And you know, I'd be lying if

989
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: I told you like this is all it's all figured out, Like, No,

990
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn along the way and surround myself with

991
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: the staff that's gonna help me along the way and

992
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: cover my blind spots was the biggest thing. And just

993
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: looking forward to the new challenge and working with all

994
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: these guys.

995
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: All right, I want to finish with scenario here. I

996
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: work with AJ every day. He is a presence. He

997
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: can be a ballbuster. I know how he was as

998
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: a player too, Right, if you had an AJ, right,

999
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: and there's got to be somebody on the squad that

1000
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: at least has a semblance of an AJ trait? What

1001
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: do you do to kind of talk him into saying, Hey,

1002
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: I know I haven't done this yet. I see the

1003
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: age number on the resume, But here's why I'm the guy,

1004
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: and I need you to trust me and work with

1005
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: me here.

1006
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1007
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I think goes back to building a relationship first, like

1008
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: meeting them where they're at, Like understanding who they are

1009
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: as a person, Understanding like what they want right, Like

1010
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: what do they see? Like is it they want to,

1011
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, make sure they get better? Is it how

1012
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: much they want to win, how much they want their

1013
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: teammates to get better, like understand like what's most important

1014
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: to them, kind of what has not been good in

1015
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: their eyes the last couple of years. And make sure

1016
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: they understand, like, hey, like you're being heard, like you're

1017
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: a big piece of this thing if we're gonna go forward,

1018
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: like you need to be a big piece of this clubhouse,

1019
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: a peak piece of this culture. Yeah, make sure they understand, like, hey,

1020
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a big part of this thing moving forward.

1021
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to ask this, what are the Gnats

1022
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 3: gonna sign somebody?

1023
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: Because you didn't ask Paul.

1024
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: I never give me an answer.

1025
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 4: So they're doing trades.

1026
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 3: But but my thing.

1027
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 5: Is like, so I go back because I was with

1028
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: my last years with the Braves fifteen sixteen.

1029
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: They bring in Jason Worth and then they go on

1030
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: and win the World Series in.

1031
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: Nineteen right, And I for two years, two off seasons,

1032
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: I've been saying, this is the year where the Nats

1033
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 5: are gonna sign somebody to start the Jason Worris cycle again.

1034
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: Because you had Gore, and you have Abrams, and you

1035
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 5: have Wood and you have we haven't even talked about.

1036
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: Dylan Cruz, right, but you have all these guys. So

1037
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm like they need some help, So when are they

1038
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: gonna do that? And then every off season I'm like, oh,

1039
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: they didn't do it.

1040
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 5: Well, now here's your chance. So maybe you need to

1041
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 5: ask the ownership. He's can I have some money to

1042
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: sign some Paul money, you know, because like I think,

1043
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: I know how good the Washington Nationals fan base and

1044
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: the organization and NAT's Park can be when they're.

1045
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: Good, and I want to see that again.

1046
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that place is awesome. I was blown away behind

1047
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: nice the area is, how much, how nice the stadium is,

1048
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: and then.

1049
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: When they're good, they are good.

1050
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited about that. And no, I can't speak

1051
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: to pass off seasons. I can only speak to this one.

1052
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: And it's something that Paul and I have talked a

1053
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: lot about and continue to talk through, and you know,

1054
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: we'll be we'll be open minded to what's out there

1055
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: and kind of talk through like what this vision looks

1056
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: like the next next few years. And yeah, I.

1057
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: Asked Paul, because I said, Paul, are you a one

1058
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 5: year guy? You look out so how many years do

1059
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: you try to look out in the future.

1060
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to tomorrow. First.

1061
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 3: You do through this, you have a five week old,

1062
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: so I understand that's fair. That's fair.

1063
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: No, I think when you look at it, like, you know,

1064
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: just talking with our staff, we got the Squeaky wagon.

1065
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: Going, so we'll get that forty.

1066
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: Obviously.

1067
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: You know, the Squeakies.

1068
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 8: Really happy with the group we.

1069
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: Have right now, like our I really like our lineup.

1070
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: I like our pitching led by McKenzie, and I think

1071
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: we're building something that we hopefully is sustainable for a

1072
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: long time. We're not just talking about twenty twenty six

1073
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: or the twenty twenty seven year being our best one,

1074
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: Like we want to be really good for you know, five, seven, eight,

1075
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: nine years down down the road.

1076
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: Hey, well, awesome to have you on here. Okay, you

1077
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 4: got one work ahead.

1078
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 8: What is the over under on amount of games before

1079
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 8: you get thrown out? Because your temperament on here, your

1080
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 8: temperament is you know, you seem like you're real chill,

1081
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 8: cool and everything. You got to get in somebody's face,

1082
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 8: but you gotta do it for real. Is it gonna

1083
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 8: be in the first month? Are you gonna wait it

1084
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 8: out a little bit? How's it gonna how's it gonna work?

1085
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 8: Do you want to set the line? I want you

1086
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 8: to set the line, all right, I.

1087
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: Think it kind of depends on how it goes.

1088
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: What can you argue about these days?

1089
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 5: You can't argument I was gonna say that, Yeah, there's

1090
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 5: not much. You were in the minor league, so you

1091
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: had a BS.

1092
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1093
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 5: You can't even argue balls and strikes anymore? Right, so

1094
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 5: what can you argue? Let's see boring? Now she is boring.

1095
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: I need fights. I need managers kicking dirt with Loopanella style.

1096
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because everything's challenged too. What's the first

1097
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: manager ejection gonna be.

1098
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: The line?

1099
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Next year?

1100
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 4: Lines? Those are still not reviewable, right.

1101
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: The line like the far and FEWL line.

1102
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: I guess I'm just trying to come up with something.

1103
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1104
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why balls and strikes no, because

1105
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the players.

1106
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: Well I guess if you're out of challenges.

1107
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess if someone your nine hole hitter, goes

1108
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 5: like this and James Wood comes up and goes.

1109
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm fucking go back, like watch the challenge once.

1110
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 4: Before, Right, he's got a good comeback like I've been right.

1111
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1112
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that would be interesting.

1113
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I'm putting it pretty high.

1114
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 8: Never getting thrown out, that's boring.

1115
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen. He will get thrown out. He

1116
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: will find a way.

1117
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: I prom I'm gonna happen for you, Chrassy.

1118
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: Thank you well, Blake, great to have you here.

1119
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: Congrats on the gig.

1120
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: We're excited to see what she brings to the table

1121
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: for the NATSI season.

1122
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: It will be there exactly, guys,