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Speaker 1: never told your prediction, but iHeart radio, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you're choosing

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Speaker 1: to drink or whatever you're doing, please do so responsibly. Samantha,

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Speaker 1: what are you sitting on?

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Speaker 2: I just have a good old cold water.

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Speaker 1: O Y nice. I have a light beer because my refrigerator,

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Speaker 1: once again, it is a disaster. I need to clear

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Speaker 2: I'm desperate every time.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, And a part of this is

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Speaker 1: I am about to go back to the beach, and

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Speaker 1: so a wht of this is left over from the beach,

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Speaker 2: Like it's only right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take it with me, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's like a boulder. It's like building up. It's

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Speaker 1: I am preparing to go to the beach. So we're

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Speaker 1: recording a lot today. This is an actual Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: that I've had on the docket for a while but

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Speaker 1: kept getting delayed. And it's just a brief update on

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Speaker 1: my fan fiction. And yeah, my experience has been uh

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Speaker 1: I will say, speaking of the beach, good friend of

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Speaker 1: mine Katie did find my username. Yeah, she found it.

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Speaker 1: She looked everything up and then she came to me

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Speaker 1: later when she was a little tipsy and said, look,

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Speaker 2: I was like, you're most like both like vindicated but okay, embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: It was funny because she she just got it in

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Speaker 1: but she would not let it go. And I would say,

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Speaker 2: For sure, darning it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this, not that she would

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Speaker 1: talking about the ways people can stalk you, and I

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Speaker 1: But I did have a moment and I thought about that,

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Speaker 2: Talk about of the most talking episode. Yes, I am

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Speaker 1: I know I have another friend who knows my fan

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Speaker 1: Sometimes my whole weekend is based on I just want

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Speaker 2: Because you can.

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Speaker 1: Sign up to get updates whenever anybody you know post something,

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