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Speaker 1: Last year, in the tenth game of the season, Drew

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Speaker 1: seven regular season starts, Chrisman averaged forty seven point eight

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Speaker 1: average and eleventh in net average, and those stats were

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Speaker 1: very similar to Kevin Huber's best seasons in Cincinnati, but

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Speaker 1: Drew did not punt as well in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: now we'll be involved in a training camp battle to

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Speaker 1: Brad Robbins. Drew's found a unique way to stay in

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Speaker 1: shape for the competition, and I discussed it with him

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Speaker 1: this week. Drew, for those who have not seen your

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Speaker 1: social media posts, explain what you've been doing in your

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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to put it in just a

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Speaker 2: the first time, it's a lot to take in, and

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Speaker 2: the moment it's transformed into something then I really didn't

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Speaker 3: The cheap, slash frugal side of me just.

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Speaker 2: Would not be willing to dish out that kind of

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Speaker 2: why Instagram or algorithm guys must have heard what I

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Speaker 2: And then obviously it's turned into a little bit more

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Speaker 1: So if there's anybody out there that doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the workout aspect of this. Cincinnati is

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Speaker 2: I have learned to stay downtown. Even downtown can get

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Speaker 2: I first started off around you see, the campus, and

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Speaker 2: I can ride for more hours and and make more

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Speaker 1: Has there been a Mount Adams delivery there has?

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Speaker 2: Usually typically if I get one of those, I uh

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Speaker 1: that you alluded to. You make money as a door

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Speaker 1: dash delivery person, but you have elected to plow that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, And like I said, I started this officer

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Speaker 3: I mean, some people do this for a living.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I started noticing the account got, you know,

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Speaker 2: But also there was something I noticed was, you know,

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Speaker 2: going to Chipotle and taking order to some skyrise building

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Speaker 2: Really, So I thought, yeah, there'd be no better use

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Speaker 2: So it's really awesome what it's turned into. And certainly

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of guys in this locker

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Speaker 1: Burrow's slogan for his foundation is everyone has a responsibility

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Speaker 3: Oh? For sure.

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Speaker 2: I think just with this platform in general that we have,

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's almost a disservice if you don't,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think I really realized that last season.

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Speaker 2: And so that was just something I was like, maybe

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Speaker 3: And certainly doing this.

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Speaker 2: I am as happy as I have been, for sure.

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Speaker 1: So the videos that you've been sharing on social media

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Speaker 3: I try my best to keep entertaining.

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Speaker 1: So are you a big cyclist? Have you always written

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Speaker 2: So in college we would do my wife and I

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Speaker 2: Leg workout and and so I don't know if I'd

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Speaker 3: But uh, so far, so far, it was so good.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's called a handle on

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Speaker 1: door dash, but your name or your handle is Drew C.

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Speaker 1: And your first name is spelled d r u E,

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Speaker 1: So it's a little bit unusual. Has anybody recognized you

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Speaker 1: So all right, final question. We talked about two of

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Speaker 1: July is coming up. You'll be working in the fireworks store, correct.

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Speaker 3: My dad planned it out perfectly, So.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to put in a plug. Name and location

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Speaker 1: Very well put. Thank you for so much for your

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Speaker 1: What stands out to you when you come to Cincinnati?

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Speaker 4: How authentic everybody is and that they don't take themselves

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Speaker 4: It is though, it's a different team with with unique personalities,

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes got all upset about Burrowhead, Like,

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Speaker 1: All right, So you mentioned Burrowhead, Mike Hilton famously calling

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Speaker 1: Well, there's one final chapter to this topic, and that

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Speaker 4: than me. I feel like, this, what year did you

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Speaker 4: start covering I don't want to say year old, and

436
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Speaker 4: then you know, proceed to show how old do you are?

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Speaker 1: I think that was accurate. So I graduated from our

438
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Speaker 1: alma mater, Syracuse in nineteen eighty five, so I was

439
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Speaker 1: covering the Buffalo Bills mostly shortly after that for a

440
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Speaker 1: TV station in Syracuse.

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Speaker 4: So even I feel like even in the eighties, most

442
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Speaker 4: of the nineties, maybe even early two thousand's, this was

443
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Speaker 4: a little more normal I get. I guess kind of

444
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Speaker 4: pre social media. Social media is maybe sanitized the coverage

445
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Speaker 4: of pro football more than anything. But I think that

446
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Speaker 4: when made sports great, would makes sports great over the year,

447
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 4: our rivalries and players john back and forth, and it's

448
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna be settled on the field. But you can

449
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 4: have all the theatrics, and you can have all these opinions,

450
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Speaker 4: and you can have you know, Pat Who in the

451
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Speaker 4: middle of you know, the dead part of the NFL calendar.

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Speaker 4: It's great. I think it's just good. I don't know

453
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Speaker 4: how anybody could get upset or look down upon Jamar

454
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Speaker 4: Chase Poort a little gasoline under the fire. Because these

455
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 4: two teams aren't going anywhere. Because these two quarterbacks aren't

456
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Speaker 4: going anywhere, you might as well have fun with it,

457
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Speaker 4: lean into it. I got to think back to the

458
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Speaker 4: Lakers and the Celtics. I was born in eighty seven,

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Speaker 4: so I didn't I didn't live it in real time. Sorry, Dan,

460
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: to watch those documentaries and just anything that you can

461
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Speaker 4: devour on YouTube, just how much those two teams hated

462
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Speaker 4: each other, loathed each other. I mean, you had those

463
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Speaker 4: rivalries and in all of sports, and you don't really

464
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Speaker 4: get it. You definitely don't get it in the NBA.

465
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Speaker 4: I mean, these players are all just kind of mercenaries.

466
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Speaker 4: They use their destination on a year to year basis,

467
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Speaker 4: so there really isn't any loyalty and you don't really

468
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Speaker 4: have right I mean, I mean, Kevin Durant owned the

469
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Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors, and now Chris Paul went to the

470
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Speaker 4: Golden Like there are players who have been opinionated about

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Speaker 4: certain teams and then they just join that team, where

472
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Speaker 4: in football, at least guys do stay on their team

473
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Speaker 4: for an extended period of time or ten two so

474
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Speaker 4: you have a chance at a real rivalry. But Also

475
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Speaker 4: in football, unlike the NBA, you don't get such authenticity

476
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Speaker 4: out of the participants, right. It's it's individualism is a

477
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Speaker 4: little more controlled. You know, they have helmets on on

478
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Speaker 4: the field, but can see their faces and the and

479
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Speaker 4: the heat of the moment as much like we do NBA.

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Speaker 4: And so anytime players start drawing back and forth and

481
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Speaker 4: leaning into, uh, you know, the hatred of an opponent,

482
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Speaker 4: I think that's I think it's good. It's it's entertaining.

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Speaker 4: But guess what, It's a violent game, the most violent

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Speaker 4: team sport on Earth. And I say that in the

485
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Speaker 4: best possible way. That's why we love football. So guys

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Speaker 4: should just say what's on their minds. It's emotional.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Rivalries are good. We're chatting with Tyler

488
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Speaker 1: Dunn from golongtd dot com. He is also the author

489
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Speaker 1: of the book Blood and Guts How Tight Ends Save Football.

490
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Speaker 1: We're about a month away from the start of training

491
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Speaker 1: camps around the NFL. Where do you think the Bengals

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Speaker 1: stack up with teams like the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Bills,

493
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, whichever powerhouse you have at the

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Speaker 1: top of your list.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're obviously right there. As long as Joe

496
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Speaker 4: Burrow's healthy, they'll always be right there. And I guess

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Speaker 4: it's really simplized, a simplified way to put it, but

498
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Speaker 4: he is unbelievable. I'm sure that you've struggled to find

499
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Speaker 4: new superlatives and new ways to describe what makes them special.

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Speaker 4: But I'd really thought that last season, what he was

501
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Speaker 4: able to do and being patient was such a big

502
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Speaker 4: step for his personal growth. The teams dared him to

503
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Speaker 4: check the ball down, dared the Bengals to run, dared

504
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Speaker 4: them to go eight, nine, ten plays on their way

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Speaker 4: to the end zone. And a lot of these quarterbacks

506
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Speaker 4: get antsy. A lot of the best ever get antsy.

507
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes gets antsy, and they want to force that

508
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Speaker 4: ball into that tight window. And you know, Kurt Warner

509
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Speaker 4: pointed this play out to me and I didn't even

510
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Speaker 4: realize it, but one of Patrick Mahomes's best highlights from

511
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Speaker 4: this past season was that little flip he had. I

512
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Speaker 4: think it was Jack mckinn. He kind of rolls right

513
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Speaker 4: and he was like a push flip. It was crazy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's the only person on the planet that

515
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Speaker 4: can make that play. But Kurt Warner said, Look, if

516
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Speaker 4: you watch that play, you know from above he has

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Speaker 4: a receiver wide open on the other side side of

518
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Speaker 4: the field. If he just plants that back foot sees

519
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Speaker 4: it gets rid of it, Boom, it's a completion. It's

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Speaker 4: within the rhythm of the offense. No quarterback in football

521
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Speaker 4: plays within the rhythm of an offense better than Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: And I think for him to play as patiently and

523
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Speaker 4: deliberately as he did last season was a step and

524
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Speaker 4: in year three that you just don't really see at

525
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Speaker 4: the most quarterbacks. And I'll tell you this, Dana drew

526
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Speaker 4: the envy of the Buffalo Bills. I'm going to dive

527
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Speaker 4: into this conversation, but I had Isaiah McKenzie on a

528
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Speaker 4: Happy Hour a Here at Go Along did a show

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Speaker 4: with him the last two seasons when he was a

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Speaker 4: member of the Bills now with the Indianapolis Colts. But

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Speaker 4: he was as candid as I've heard anybody on the

532
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Speaker 4: Bills about that playoff loss and what went down, and

533
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Speaker 4: again back to social media, and you know what we

534
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Speaker 4: hate about all of that In twenty twenty three, I

535
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Speaker 4: can't even blame Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd and the

536
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Speaker 4: Bengals for getting pissed off at Isaiah. And you know,

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Speaker 4: he had the comment it would have been a different

538
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Speaker 4: game in a dome. He didn't say they'd win, he

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Speaker 4: decided it would be a different game. I think it

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Speaker 4: was interpreted by the Bengals as like a slight as

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Speaker 4: a dig at Cincinnati. He was digging the Bills if

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Speaker 4: you listened to him in full. He was really criticizing

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Speaker 4: Ken Dorsey's offense in Buffalo in the fact that it's

544
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Speaker 4: just too boom or bust. It was like, if the

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Speaker 4: big plays were hitting, it was great. He wants to

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Speaker 4: take those shots. But Isaiah's like, I'm looking at Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow and the Bengals and you know, guys are running six, seven,

548
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Speaker 4: eight yards turned around and it's quick. But he completed

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Speaker 4: passes to like seven or eight different receivers in the

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Speaker 4: first quarter alone, and he says, we should have been

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Speaker 4: doing that, and the Bills weren't. They had these long,

552
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Speaker 4: developing plays. They were trying to hit the deep shot

553
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Speaker 4: and they could do it. They weren't built to play

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Speaker 4: in the snow, which is crazy. It's not what the

555
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: snow sneaks up on you in Western New York because

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Speaker 4: you know, Dan, it's not like all of a sudden,

557
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Speaker 4: there's a blizzard. Oh my god, what happened? It's snowing.

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Speaker 4: But they weren't. They had no running game without Brian Dable,

559
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Speaker 4: They really had no short passing game. Isaiah mackenzie was

560
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Speaker 4: gonna be the slot receiver their version of Coleby Bes

561
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Speaker 4: left and didn't even really use him as a slot receiver,

562
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Speaker 4: and it was a mess. The Bengals were more equipped

563
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Speaker 4: to win that game because of their passing game the

564
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Speaker 4: way it was structured, but they was physically tougher, mentally tougher,

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Speaker 4: and that game fell over from the word go a

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Speaker 4: lot like the tomorrow Hamma game felt, honestly. I mean,

567
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Speaker 4: I think that would have probably been a Cincinnati blew

568
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Speaker 4: out as well. So I think there's a huge divide

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Speaker 4: between these two teams. I mean, maybe Buffalo closed it.

570
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Speaker 4: I think they made a lot of really good decisions

571
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Speaker 4: this offseason. They work in the fringes of free agency,

572
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Speaker 4: but man, between the digs drama, Dorsey need to figure

573
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Speaker 4: things out the fact that Cincinnati hasn't had to make

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Speaker 4: those really hard financial decisions quite yet. I still like

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati a little bit more than Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought up Isaiah McKenzie's comments because

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of Bengals fans heard just the

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Speaker 1: following that somebody on the Bills blamed the loss on

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Speaker 1: the snow without knowing any of the context. And some

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Speaker 1: people have said, well, what did they think that the

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Speaker 1: Bengals uniforms blended in with a snow or something like that,

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Speaker 1: because the Bengals were wearing white. But the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is Isaiah McKenzie on your podcast basically said

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Speaker 1: the snow was a problem for Buffalo because they were

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball too far down the field and the

586
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Speaker 1: receivers are having trouble with the timing of the routes

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Speaker 1: because of the bad footing, etc. That was basically the

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Speaker 1: gist of it.

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Speaker 4: Right totally, And he's right. It would have been a

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Speaker 4: different game on a fast track in a dome, completely

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Speaker 4: eliminating weather from the equation. I think Cincinnati still wins.

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Speaker 4: And I bet you if you were too back Isaiah

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Speaker 4: into a corner, he'd probably admit the Cincinnati still wins

594
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: that game, but it is a different game. And I

595
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: think that you know, the Bengals shouldn't really take offence

596
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: because he's really criticizing the Bills and the structure of

597
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Speaker 4: their offense and the fact that they were just too finase.

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Speaker 4: He kind of said what a lot of people on

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Speaker 4: that team are thinking, but can't say. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: a member of the Colts now, so he's speaking a

601
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Speaker 4: little more freely. But he kind of chuckled and said, look,

602
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Speaker 4: we don't We did not have a running game. We

603
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Speaker 4: had nothing. So you know, when teams sit back on

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Speaker 4: the Bills like they did the Bengals, it's not like

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Speaker 4: they can just hand the ball off to a Joe

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Speaker 4: Mixon or anybody back there and win five yards at

607
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: a time that the line wasn't really built that way,

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Speaker 4: the play calling wasn't structured that way. And it's Cincinnati

609
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Speaker 4: absolutely clobbered the Bills. I mean, that was gosh, it's

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Speaker 4: you know, we'll look back at that game, Dan, We'll

611
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Speaker 4: see the box score and some of the stats. It's

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Speaker 4: not going to do it justice. I mean, they really

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Speaker 4: did embarrass the Bills in their own stadium.

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of offseason moves, the Bengals have at least

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Speaker 1: on paper, significantly upgraded their offensive line with the addition

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Speaker 1: of Orlando Brown Junior, the best free agent offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: that was on the market. Were you shocked by that move?

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Speaker 1: I think many people here in Cincinnati, myself included, didn't

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Speaker 1: see it coming.

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Speaker 4: It was one of those rare moves in free agency

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Speaker 4: where you almost remember where you were when it happened.

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Speaker 4: When it did kind of break Twitter, I was just

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Speaker 4: I was like laying in bed doing what a lot

624
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: of us do, just kind of half asleep and half

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Speaker 4: awake and scroll doom scrolling. I'm like, what the he?

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Speaker 4: How did Cincinnati got Orlando Brown? I think I assume

627
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati was in a similar position as Buffalo. I get

628
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Speaker 4: may maybe not quite yet, but they weren't in a

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Speaker 4: position to spend I guess subconsciously, I'm thinking, you gotta

630
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Speaker 4: hang up for Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, do your best

631
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Speaker 4: to keep Tea Higgins. They just didn't seem to be

632
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Speaker 4: a team to be in the market for the best

633
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Speaker 4: offensive tackle out there. For whatever reason, Orlando Brown just

634
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Speaker 4: didn't get what Orlando Brown thought he was going to

635
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Speaker 4: that first wave, and you have to credit the Bengals

636
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Speaker 4: in their front office for just being patient. This is

637
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: what the best teams do like, they don't panic, they

638
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: don't do anything rash those first twenty four to forty

639
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Speaker 4: eight hours. They kind of let the silly money just

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Speaker 4: get spent. And I say that hesitantly because like the

641
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars spent like crazy a year ago and it

642
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: worked out, and then two years ago, Cincinnati spent like

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Speaker 4: crazy and it worked out. So I'm not the kind

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Speaker 4: of guy that just blast teams for spending a lot

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Speaker 4: of money, because if you've got a really good quarterback

646
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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence Joe Burrow, and you've got money to spend,

647
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: you better spend it because that's that can be what

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: elevates you. And now these two teams they might be

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Speaker 4: playing in the AFC Championship Game. So that being said, though,

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Speaker 4: where Cincinnati was that it just made sense to kind

651
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Speaker 4: of let a lot of that money fly. And they're

652
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Speaker 4: probably looking at it like a lot of us, thinking,

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Speaker 4: how in the hell is Orlando Brown not signing a

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Speaker 4: contract with anybody. The Chiefs were probably even surprised they

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Speaker 4: went ahead and got a different tackle because I assumed

656
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Speaker 4: they didn't think they could keep Orlando Brown, but to

657
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Speaker 4: steal him from Kansas City is such a coup. I'm

658
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Speaker 4: not telling your viewers and listeners anything. They don't know

659
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Speaker 4: what the last two seasons ended for the Bengals because

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Speaker 4: of a key pass protection moment where they weren't able

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Speaker 4: to give Joe Burrow that extra split second. And that's

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Speaker 4: where Burrow is different.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if he has just a little bit more time,

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Speaker 5: the way he reads the field is so unlike anybody

665
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Speaker 5: in football Mahomes, Alan, Lawrence deck Lamar, throw anybody out there,

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: Nobody reads the field better than this guy. But he

668
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Speaker 4: just it's scary to think we could do with just

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Speaker 4: a little bit more time. And if you can just

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Speaker 4: hold up on the edges one on one without chippin' Wethough,

671
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Speaker 4: I'm sure they would love to chip on a certain

672
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Speaker 4: play from that AFC Championship game. But if you can

673
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Speaker 4: hold up without chipping, then you've got more receivers out

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Speaker 4: there to let him go to work. So it's huge.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly, I'm not going to sit here

676
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Speaker 4: and act like I'm this offensive line guru. I haven't

677
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Speaker 4: been grinding the Orlando Brown film, but at any time

678
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: I've seen him, even back to the Baltimore days. I mean,

679
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: he's a mountain of a man. It's hard to believe

680
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Speaker 4: that there can be somebody this big on a football field,

681
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Speaker 4: but he bends and he moves pretty well. I mean,

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Speaker 4: what do you think, Dan?

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Speaker 1: You know, some people say that he's not one of

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Speaker 1: the best tackles in the NFL. Maybe he's a little

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Speaker 1: bit overrated, or he would have been better on the

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Speaker 1: right side than the left. So what, He's a four

687
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Speaker 1: time Pro bowler, he's proven he's durable. The worst case scenario,

688
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Speaker 1: and this is the absolute worst case scenario, is that

689
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Speaker 1: he's top half in the league, which is a significant

690
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Speaker 1: upgrade and plenty good enough. I'm a subscriber to the

691
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Speaker 1: theory that your offensive line has to be solid at

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Speaker 1: every position. You don't necessarily have to have Anthony Munos

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Speaker 1: at one of your tackle spots. You just can't have

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Speaker 1: anybody that kills you. And with Orlando Brown at twenty

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Speaker 1: six years old, at six eight, three hundred and sixty pounds,

696
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Speaker 1: great attitude, great worth at work, ethic, it's a total

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Speaker 1: no brainer. And throw in the fact that they got

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Speaker 1: him for the exact same dollar amount that the Falcons

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Speaker 1: are paying Jesse Bates, so they lost to safety and

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Speaker 1: added a four time Pro Bowl left tackle who's twenty

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Speaker 1: six years old at the exact same price. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's not one of the top five. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I personally think he's probably, you know, at least top ten,

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Speaker 1: certainly top fifteen, and that's a big upgrade for the

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Speaker 1: next four years.

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Speaker 4: You just put it so perfectly too. I think this

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Speaker 4: is what the best teams do as well as they

708
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Speaker 4: think a year ahead. They're not going to come out

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Speaker 4: and say, well, we're going to lose Jesse Bates, so

710
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Speaker 4: we're drafting these players. They planned for this all and

711
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Speaker 4: now they finally address what ailed this team, the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to imagine and that they I'm thinking back

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Speaker 4: to two years ago that they got to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Of that line especially, it's unbelievable. I mean, quit in Spain. Hey,

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Speaker 4: it's it's hard to knock anybody in the NFL. It's

716
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Speaker 4: the best of the best. But here in Buffalo is

717
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Speaker 4: like they couldn't wait to get rid of the guy,

718
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Speaker 4: and he's out there in a Super Bowl trying to

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Speaker 4: block Aaron Donald. For them to even get to that

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Speaker 4: point says a lot about Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm with you. Just find the five best

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Speaker 4: guys up front wherever they are. If you can get

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Speaker 4: five guys you can depend on and there's no weak link,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: And hope you can get to the AFC Championship Game

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Speaker 1: without losing three starters in three consecutive games at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. Has happened in the Bengals last year.

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Speaker 4: Also, Irv Smith is I mean, he's really good. I

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Speaker 4: know he's had injuries on that. That's another spot where

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Speaker 4: they kind of you know that you lose a quality

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Speaker 4: guy in Hayden Hurst who's jumping over He's still jumping

732
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Speaker 4: over people in Orchard Park probably, but they pivoted so

733
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Speaker 4: well to somebody. Obviously he's got the he's got the

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Speaker 4: bloodlines his dad. I believe he was a tight end

735
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Speaker 4: for the Saints through the nineties. He can he can

736
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Speaker 4: block better than most. But another receiving option who's absolutely

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Speaker 4: an NFL starter at a at a premium price.

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Speaker 1: Our guest is Tyler Dunn from golongtv dot com, author

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Speaker 1: in podcast or I'm going to hit you now with

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Speaker 1: some hot button NFL topics and get your opinion on these.

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Speaker 1: You have been critical on golongtd dot com of Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's gonna work out with the Jets?

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Speaker 4: No? I do not. I think that well number one

744
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 4: Father Time is undefeated and the best of the very best,

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Speaker 4: inevitably this side of Tom Brady. Right, tom Brady has

746
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: kind of warped reality a little bit with his avocado

747
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: ice cream and Alex Guerrero and who else knows what

748
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Speaker 4: he's doing. I'm just I can't get past the hairline,

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Speaker 4: Like couple of ball guys here, what is he? He

750
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: did something, there's some voodoo at play. I don't know what.

751
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: He started losing his hair and then all of a

752
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: sudden he's got a full head of hair for the

753
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Speaker 4: rest of his career. So we can't compare Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: to anybody because he's not normal, And don't I don't

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00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: think Aaron Rodgers is unique abnormal in that category. It's

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Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, Philip Rivers, Eli,

757
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Speaker 4: Ben Roethlisberger, everybody. When they get to thirty eight, thirty nine,

758
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Speaker 4: forty and you have the season that you saw out

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Speaker 4: of Aaron Rodgers last year. It doesn't just redirect and

760
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: shoot back up very rarely does it because he didn't

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Speaker 4: see the field that well. There were open receivers, he

762
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Speaker 4: just didn't hit him. He wasn't running Matt Lafleur's offense

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00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: play in and play out. There was a point last

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Speaker 4: season when they lost to the Jets, Commanders and the Giants.

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Speaker 4: I think I have the order wrong there. For those

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Speaker 4: three back to back to back losses, that's where green

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00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: Bay season really went downhill. I want to say he

768
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Speaker 4: had like one hundred and ten dropbacks and Aaron Jones

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Speaker 4: and aj Dillon combined for like fifty carries. So they

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Speaker 4: got away from the strength of the team. And that's

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. He's got the autonomy at the line of

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Speaker 4: scrimmage to change whatever play he wants, and rightfully so

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Speaker 4: he's seen everything. But that really only works if you've

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Speaker 4: got Davante Adams out there and thousands upon thousands of

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Speaker 4: reps baked in. I mean, and it took time. It

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Speaker 4: takes a long time to get on Aaron Rodgers intellectual level.

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Speaker 4: It took Jordan Nelson a while, Randall Cobb awhile Davante

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Speaker 4: Adams was written off as a bust in Year two,

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Speaker 4: Terrible Year two, a lot of drops, and then all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers has went in two MVPs

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Speaker 4: with him, So I can't see him just going to

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Speaker 4: another team with new players. Maybe he has pissed off,

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Speaker 4: goes full heel. He's already been taking shots green Bay

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Speaker 4: at every opportunity, trying to rewrite history the best he can.

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Speaker 4: As we all know, if you start lying, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to keep track of your lies. And I feel like

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Speaker 4: that's how Aaron Rodgers is trying to paint his exit

788
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Speaker 4: from green Bay, and green Bay is just sitting there like, okay,

789
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Speaker 4: whatever Aaron. Like they don't want to talk about the

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Speaker 4: Crazy X like many of us do, not, like we

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Speaker 4: don't want to relive that dark time in our lives.

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Speaker 4: Or they're just like, get out of here. We're moving

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Speaker 4: on to Jordan Love. So we're never really going to

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00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: hear their side of the story, not at length, but

795
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Speaker 4: everything we do know because Aaron just keeps going on

796
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Speaker 4: and on about the packer's not facetiming him when he

797
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: had one bar. But oh yeah, they tried to reach out.

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Speaker 4: It's it's at some point he'll do what he did

799
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Speaker 4: last year and throw teammates under the bus. He goes

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Speaker 4: on McAfee and says, if you don't know what you're

801
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: doing out there, you should be playing. Well, you're a player,

802
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Speaker 4: you're a quarterback. I mean should that apply to yourself. Then,

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Speaker 4: when you're not open receivers and you're losing and you're

804
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: not performing, I can't see the sending well. I really,

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Speaker 4: especially in that division where the Bills are still really talented.

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00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: Miami's loading up for a Super Bowl run. I Vic

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Speaker 4: Vangio is arguably the best defensive mind the side of Belichick.

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Speaker 4: I mean top three, and they have Jayalen Ramsey who's

809
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: pretty good, and the Patriots. They're s the Patriots. I

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Speaker 4: mean that defense is is loaded. They're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I could easily see the Jets finishing dead last in

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Speaker 4: this division, which great, you know, Woody Joe Robert. Was

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Speaker 4: it really worth it? I mean, Zach Wilson was that

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Speaker 4: much of a disaster that they were so desperate to

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Speaker 4: do anything in their power. But I still think there

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Speaker 4: could have been a better option out their form. I

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Speaker 4: don't make a play for Lamar Jackson. Jackson or hunt

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Speaker 4: on this season, Troad drafted quarterback next to or any anything,

819
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Speaker 4: but this it's I don't think it's going to end well.

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Speaker 4: And if he wins MVP and they make the playoffs

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Speaker 4: and they go in to the Super Bowl, run have

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Speaker 4: me back on and I'll apologize to all your viewers.

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Speaker 1: All right, High button topic number two. Will Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: returned to being one of the NFL's best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: his second year in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Love what Cleveland did, meet and potatoes off season. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Dalvin Tomlinson, Juan Thornhill, even trading for Elijah Moore from

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Speaker 4: the Jets. One of the best offensive lines in football.

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Speaker 4: Nick Chubb is exceptional. I don't know, though. It was

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Speaker 4: really bad. And obviously we're just talking football here, there's

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Speaker 4: all the other stuff when it comes to Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 4: But the rust was even worse than I think we

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: all thought it never he never really got better as

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Speaker 4: the games continued. So maybe with a full off season

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Speaker 4: it'll be better than he was last year. But I

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Speaker 4: don't know the Deshaun Watson from early in his career

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Speaker 4: that just kind of danced and branched and improvised and

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00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: did whatever he wanted. I don't know if we're going

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Speaker 4: to see that player again again, because look at the division,

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00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, I think we'll have him figured out. Baltimore's

841
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: only going to be better, and Lamar's not going anywhere,

842
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Speaker 4: and obviously Cincinnati is going to win the next ten

843
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 4: super Bowls. Because I'm on your show again, it's like

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Speaker 4: a similar to the Jets. It's like you got this

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Speaker 4: quarterback and you gave up so much for them. I mean,

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Speaker 4: in the Browns case, your soul two hundred and thirty

847
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Speaker 4: guaranteed three first round picks and for what, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: a lot of really good people there in terms of

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Speaker 4: the front office. I think Andrew Barry, Glenn Cook. They've

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00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: got smart football people running the show, and I love

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Speaker 4: what they did this offseason. Then you take a step

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00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: back and you look at the division, it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: I don't really know who they overtake here.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're in the Buffalo area. Is the Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs situation a minor blip or a major problem in Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: Great question. I cannot speak with total conviction one way

857
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: or another, which tends to make me want to say

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00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: it is it is a major problem because if it

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Speaker 4: was just a blip, we don't know anything. Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 4: who's always protecting the players at press conference, I shouldn't say, oh, we'

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Speaker 4: see Shuldin protect him after thirteen seconds. I should say

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Speaker 4: who never says a hell of a lot of anything

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Speaker 4: at press conferences, especially when it comes to specifics of

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Speaker 4: his players. Made a point to say he was very concerned,

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Speaker 4: and it was clear he had just gotten out of

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Speaker 4: a meeting with Stefan Diggs. Players see Diggs leave the building.

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Speaker 4: He's gone. Something was said, He's mad about something. This

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Speaker 4: is an extension from the Cincinnati playoff loss when he's

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Speaker 4: in Josh Allen's space and he had to be coaxed

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Speaker 4: back into the locker room to hear Sean mcdermot's speech

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Speaker 4: by Duke Johnson, a practice squad running back, had to

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Speaker 4: convince him to get back in there. You would think

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Speaker 4: that what the four months in between, they would figure

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Speaker 4: it out whatever was wrong. They just would sing Kumbaya

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Speaker 4: and and and and work out their issues. But those

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Speaker 4: issues still exist. They're not going to go way between

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Speaker 4: now in training camp. If they didn't go away between

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Speaker 4: the divisional playoff round and Mini camp.

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Speaker 3: So is it?

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Speaker 4: You know, you hear so many different things. I've heard

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Speaker 4: many theories stand like he's he's mad at Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: because their relationship soured. He's he's mad because he's just

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Speaker 4: not getting the ball in these critical playoff moments, mad

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Speaker 4: about his contract, mad that the seasons keep ending in

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Speaker 4: this horrible, tragic fashion. I don't know what's true, but

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Speaker 4: it's probably a little bit of everything. And I think

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Speaker 4: that there is a disconnect with him and Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 4: I think that's obvious. But I do think that the

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Speaker 4: Bills knew what they signed up for. Like he wanted

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Speaker 4: to get the hell out of Minnesota rightfully, so he

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Speaker 4: didn't like where the offense was going with Zimmer kind

892
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Speaker 4: of bringing it back to the nineties. He felt it

893
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Speaker 4: was a little archaic. Wasn't taking advantage of a skill set?

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Speaker 4: Gets to Buffalo and you know the risk that you're

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Speaker 4: taking on. But in my opinions, it's worth the risk.

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Speaker 4: Because everybody I've talked to, whether it was Chadhall who's

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Speaker 4: no longer here, who knows Maybe that's another reason he's upset.

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Speaker 4: The wide receivers coach Isaiah McKenzie. Players on both sides

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Speaker 4: of the ball. They say, like Diggs is the one

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Speaker 4: who really kind of changed the atmosphere at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 4: You know, this was a team that did make the

902
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Speaker 4: playoffs for seventeen years, they've they've never really had a

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Speaker 4: upper echelon, alpha dog, maniacal competitor like Stefan Diggs. He

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Speaker 4: is as insane of a competitor, intensive a competitors you're

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Speaker 4: gonna find in football. And that's gonna come with a

906
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Speaker 4: lot of baggage. It's gonna come with what we see

907
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Speaker 4: the offseason and him clashing with the head coach and

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Speaker 4: getting in Allen's face and all of that. But I

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Speaker 4: think if you're the Bills, you just you just have

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Speaker 4: to accept it. You don't have to embrace it, but

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Speaker 4: you have to accept it because the alternative isn't that pretty.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can get much if you traded

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Speaker 4: him at this point, at his age. The other receivers

914
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Speaker 4: are good, not special. For better or worse. You better

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Speaker 4: figure it out, Buffalo, because you need him if you

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Speaker 4: want to keep pace with Cincinnati, with Kansas City, even

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: My guest has been Tyler Dunn. The website is golongtd

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Speaker 1: dot com. I have a very happy subscriber for folks

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Speaker 4: No doubt. I just feel like your listeners, all the

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Speaker 4: fans across the country are the ones pouring their hard

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Speaker 4: you pour not just money, but your heart and soul

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Speaker 4: into the sport. So I just feel like with where

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Speaker 4: a lot of sports media is, it's gone toward the

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Speaker 4: So when I launched Go Along three years ago, it

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Speaker 4: learn something. It's gonna help explain the sport or a

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Speaker 4: particular player that you think you know a little bit

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Speaker 4: just you know, special personalities like those in Cincinnati being

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Speaker 4: willing to sit down and open up. So I'm very

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Speaker 4: fortunate you know that so many of those players with

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Speaker 4: the Bengals are willing to kind of go down that road,

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Speaker 4: and they don't just want to few a few cliches

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Speaker 4: and and kind of go along their merry way. They're

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Speaker 4: like a DJ Reader was unbelievable last year. It was

945
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Speaker 4: so cool getting to know him. But they want to

946
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Speaker 4: sit down and explain their lives makes them tick. And hey,

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Speaker 4: if that's what if folks want to do and take

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Speaker 4: their brains back a little bit right in the social

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Speaker 4: media world. Hopefully we can keep this thing going. So

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Speaker 4: there for training camp.

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Speaker 5: Yea