1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Making America great Again. Welcome 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens and I am joined build 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: up some heroes, Mark Sessler, then Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: See you know what you got right for? What's up? Boys? 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: I know West isn't here today. Uh, And you're sitting 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: to my left, which is thrown off the whole chemistry. 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: It's in the balance here right now. I'm not one 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: of those versatile players that can play any position. I'm 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: gonna be terrible today because it is odd and I'm 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: so used to seeing Greg in the distance over in 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: the corner, and now he's looking over my shoulders. So 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: are you're feeling some pressure? No, I'm like you. I'm 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: not versatile and you can't move me around and when 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: other people move around, I start to crumble. So we 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: are listen. That's what makes us so great, our lack 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: of versatility. Yes, this is the Sunday recap show, our 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: flagship show of the regular season Around the NFL Podcast, 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: where we're gonna break down fourteen games that we watched today. Right, 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: is that the right number? Right now? That Big Son 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: another home run Mark. I wanted before we get into 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: anything touch based with you. Uh. You you know we 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: do the NFL Game Day Blitz on NFL now every Sunday. 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: You were bumped today. Uh. They rolled in Larry King 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: uh and and put him propped him up on the 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: on the couch and he spoke instead of you. Was 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: this a career at low point? It was? It was concerning. 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: But if you know, fifty years from now I bumped 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: someone to be on television, I would consider it revenge. 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: That would be five decades now, because that's how old 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: he is. Well, but Larry King is a TV legend. 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: You can't feel bad about getting bummed for Larry King. 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: You know he did he did the dab, which you know, 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: enough of the enough of the dab at this point, 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: and they put that thing on NFL network from Game 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Day Blitz. That wasn't happening. If Cessler goes on there instead, 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: how do you know Mark could have come on and 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: set something wild. I never would have done the dab 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: to start with. Okay, I think that's fair. Yes, there 40 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: is a lot to get to today. Uh, and another 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: a day where you know, now we're in the middle 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: of this, this playoff push. A lot of things going 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: on right now, a lot of big injuries to talk 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: about coming up. Steelers Bengals we're gonna talk about and 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: the injury that could change the a f C. We're 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: gonna have two phoners to use little industry lingo are 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: old friends Connor or our new Jersey correspondent, and of 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: course Kevin Patrick coming at you. It's been a couple 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: of weeks since we had Kevin, so we gotta get 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: him on talk some games that they watched, and uh, 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: finally Sunday Night football, we go live from the Throne 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: of Ease in Houston where the Pats and Texans squared off. 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: Greg always upset when they flex the Pats. The Sunday nights, 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: you don't get to give the game the attention you 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: feel a dessert. Well, plus the shipping costs for the 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Throne to get it down there to Houston and listen 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: not on your time though, so not a major concernat 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: listen to Greg. By the way, everything and we'll get 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: to this, but everything that could break thrown a vise 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: way did here we go again, well, over and over again. 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean for eight months we've said, what were the 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Patriots would do they go twelve and four, roll right 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and go to the super Bowl. Yeah, 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: because because the season's over now, Well, if I've learned anything, 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: we should make a long term judgment based on one 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: week's event. No, no, it's not one week. It's fifteen 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: years and at this point we know what's going to happen. 68 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: The season just plays out as a sad procession of 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: known events and we just sit by and watch and 70 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: commentate on it. Well, he's right, say save it for 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots. And of course before we get to the 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: first game. This is our Sunday show, which means you 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: could watch this on YouTube or NFL now, but of 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: course you could also listen to it. You probably are 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: right now if you're hearing that would make sense? Comment maybe, 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: maybe some smarter comments on the old YouTube. It's not 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: asked too much. You get great comments on iTunes. Let's 78 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: get some better ones. An comments section is basically a 79 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: cess pool, assess pool of humanity. I find um. But 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: if our listeners, who are all smart people, want to 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: get involved, got speed, Let's get to the games. Let's 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: start in the a f C North and what was 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: a showdown or what we thought was going to be 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: a showdown, and I thought the football world we got 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: cheated in this one because a worst case scenario played 86 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: out for the Bengals, who lost Andy Dalton to a 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: potentially season ending thumb injury, then got beaten their building 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: by the Steelers thirty three to twenty greg The Bengals 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: are still tenant three, still of the inside track in 90 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the a f C North title, but this is a 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: disaster for a Super Bowl contender. Imagine at the beginning 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: of the season feeling like Andy Dalton is so good, 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: he's so valuable, that the team's Super Bowl chances are 94 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: all gonna go up and smoke just because he's injured. 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: But that's what it felt like today. What a costly 96 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: play that he got injured on. He got injured on 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: an interception, so he hurts system the Steelers could off 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: end up being a big play in a game that 99 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: was a little tighter than the score and a J. 100 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: McCarron comes in. Now, I thought Ada McCarron showed some things. 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: He made four or five really good throws, he had 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: to pick six that hurd him. He had another interception 103 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: at a key point of the game, so that you've 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: got to cut that down obviously, but thirty two passes 105 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: two yards. I watched that game and I thought they 106 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: can win games with a J. McCarron against the bad teams. 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: So if there's any chance that Andy Dalton could get 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: back for the playoffs, I think McCarron can get them 109 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: there with the division title. Well, and they play the 110 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: forty Niners and Ravens, but in between that is a 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Broncos game that the Steelers also played Denver. And it's 112 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: crazy to think, after the way that the Bengals have 113 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: performed this season at a peak level far beyond what 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: any of us possibly thought they could do, that Pittsburgh 115 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: could still win this division well, but only because the 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: quarterback just broke its thumb. I mean, it's the worst 117 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: possible luck for the Bengals and a franchise that deserves better. 118 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: They've had bad luck for years upon years, and for 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: this to happen, I don't know. It's just like, you know, 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: West talks about how this season has been a real 121 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: bummer with all these injuries, and this is just another one. 122 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: Dalton was gonna be one of the really fun subplots 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and maybe he comes back. Who knows, but he he 124 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: was gonna be one of the really fun subplots of January. 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Now that's a good chance that that's just not gonna happen. 126 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think this is the best Bengals 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: team since the eighties, without a doubt, maybe even maybe 128 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: even better than that second Bengals team that made the 129 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in terms of a complete game. And you 130 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: saw it today because even though they were down early, 131 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: they were down seven nothing when Dalton threw that interception, 132 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: it ends up being thirteen nothing. This didn't look like 133 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: two uneven teams. Even with McCarron on the field. The 134 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Bengals had more total yards then the Steelers in this game. 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: They moved the ball up and down, The defense did 136 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: a pretty good job against Pittsburgh only had three fifty yards. 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: They've been lighting it up. D'Angelo Williams held for seventy 138 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: six yards. They kept plays in front of him. But 139 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers made all the big plays when they needed to. 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say the Steelers were held in check. 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: When they gotta turnover, they converted it quickly. They had 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: a comfort able lead, and I think they played it 143 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: a little safer, maybe because McCarron was in the game. Yeah, 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we see no evidence of Pittsburgh slowing down 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: on offense at all, despite losing Levy on Bell. D'Angelo 146 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Williams has stepped right in their passing games. Insane was 147 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: since he did they have to change the scheme or 148 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: the playbook with McCarron in there. Well, he they were 149 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: trailing by two scores. Most of it. They couldn't really 150 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: run the ball. They were in sixteen times for sixty 151 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: four yards. They fell behind so quickly because Ben Roethlisberger 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: was aggressive. I mean, to me, one of the key players. 153 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: The game is third and one on the first drive 154 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: and he goes down the field thirty one yards. That 155 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: just sets the Tony hits another third and ten later 156 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: that drive. The Steelers gave up some chunk plays to 157 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I don't think they changed what they did 158 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: because McCarron was aggressive. I mean, he had a bomb 159 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: to a J. Green, He had a couple of nice 160 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: yard throws up the seams. He didn't look that bad. 161 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I watched that and thought, well, maybe maybe they have 162 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: a chance. And he's certainly company. He referenced himself potentially 163 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: is stepping in the way that Tom Brady did back 164 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: in that I saw that's gonna be a thing where 165 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: he gets head for that. But I don't think that's fair. No, 166 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: he didn't mean it as in a bragging way. No. 167 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Once I was gonna get he's gonna get b No. 168 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I think what he was saying was I'm better than 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I'm gonna win the Super Bowl. I'm a 170 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: J mccaren. Have you seen my wife, I'd be you know, 171 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: i'd be confident to have You've seen my tattoos, my 172 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: absurd chess tattoos. I'm looking forward this week to the 173 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: hot takes like, well, this guy's got the tattoos, not 174 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: like a franchise quarterback, you know, like Colin Kaepernick took 175 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: back to day. I mean, this guy is not a 176 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: true friend tattoos. Did the Steelers win the a C 177 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: North No, because the Bengals are still two games up, 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: and that's only with three to play. The Steelers still 179 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: have to go win in Denver. They gotta win against 180 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: Denver rather in Pittsburgh. That's a tough game. The Bengals. 181 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: All they have to do is beat the Ravens and 182 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: the Browns as you say, and they might just have 183 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: to win one of those games. And I think, like, 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: like I said, what we saw today, there was talent 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: up and down this team on defense. I think they 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: can do it against the battle like that. You're all 187 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: in on a J mccarrolly, I'm at all Harry in 188 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the water here by the Jay mccaren deally playing New 189 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: England in the playoffs, I think he likes the idea 190 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: of that. That sounds good. But Pittsburgh has a chance 191 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: now to win the division. Uh, And it's just getting 192 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: harder and harder to imagine them not making a wild card. 193 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: But that next game against the Broncos is tough. Then 194 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: they lost Tyler and Eifford to a concussion as well, 195 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: So we don't know what's going on. A lot of 196 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: bad news in Cincinnati. It's it sucks. It's especially for 197 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: a fan base that were they on the fan Pan ranking, yes, 198 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: and for I mean, and this is another if if 199 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: if this plays out, and there are some reports that 200 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Dalton won't return, that's not been confirmed by our guys, 201 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: and we think that's up in the air right now. 202 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: If he doesn't play again this season, I mean, that 203 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: goes down as one of the more painful things to happen. 204 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: And then remember the last time they had a great 205 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: team was two thousand five when Crossed the Palmer blew 206 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: out his knee by the first drive of a playoff 207 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: game against the Steelers when these two teams played. Remember 208 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: last year Levy on Bell and A. J. Green got 209 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: injured the second time that the Steelers and Bengals play 210 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: and neither one of them ended up playing in the 211 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: playoffs because of that. There's just some bad food moving 212 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: on elsewhere in the a f C. Khalil Mack, Ladies 213 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Khalil Mack had a superstar coming out party 214 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: in Denver. He piled up five sacks of Broncos Wiler 215 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: and the Raiders is upset fifteen twelve win over the Broncos. 216 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: Mac put the clown suit on poor Michael Schofield, tying 217 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: a team record for sacks in one game. How he 218 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: long was the previous guy the Broncos. The Broncos Meanwhile, 219 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: they may have just kicked away home field advantage in 220 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Stunning turn of events in this game. And 221 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: and the thing that was the craziest about a lot 222 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: of crazy things in this game and Mac was a 223 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: game record Um, which was really interesting to see. He 224 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: now leads the NFL and sacks, or at least that 225 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: game ended, he had fourteen, putting him ahead of watt. 226 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Um was that this was totally artist. At halftime was 227 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: two and twenty four yards for the Broncos negative twelve 228 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: what for the Raiders at the half. That's got to 229 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: be the only time all year that a team had 230 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: negative yardage at the half. And the difference was the 231 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Broncos kept kicking field goals in the first half, got 232 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: four field goals from Bandon Brendan McManus, so it was 233 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: twelve nothing. The Raiders get back into the game with 234 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown of the first drive of the third quarter, 235 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: and then it becomes kind of a rock fight. Eventually 236 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: they were. The Raiders recover a fumble on a muff 237 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: punt by Emmanuel Sanders, they score the go ahead touchdown 238 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: to go fifteen twelve. They trade miss field goals and 239 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: that's it. That's all she wrote, Mac did the rest 240 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: give it to Greg because Greg predicted this win last week. 241 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't think this is only headlines from the future. 242 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: That counts is this is how you would have. I'm 243 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: not sure this is how you would said it would 244 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: play out, though, where I was gonna say they'll get 245 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: out gained by a couple of hundred yards. It'll be 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: the craziest game you've ever seen. That's how he would. 247 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean from what a little I saw this Denver game. 248 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: They could not c J Anderson not on the field, 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: could not run the ball. And if you're brock Osweller, 250 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't blame the game on brock Osweiler when you 251 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: were getting you know, zero protection. But you can't put 252 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: it all on him when you can't run the ball. 253 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: If you're Gary Kubiak in that offense, No, but he missed. 254 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: They all had a partner. Damarius Thomas said, one of 255 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the worst games by a superstar receiver all season since 256 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: he had one two weeks. That's true too. He had 257 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: a couple of drops. Uh. He had a fumble in 258 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: the game. He had a drop that killed a fourth 259 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: quarter drive. He really struggled. Brock Osweiler also had a 260 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: wide open touchdown at one point, I believe at the 261 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: end of the first half, missed that throw. They had 262 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot of unforced airs. And then you think back 263 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: to last week against San Diego when they only scored 264 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: ten points on offense, and you really kind of think 265 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: about this Brock Osweiler run, and they've run the ball better, 266 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: but that's kind of stopped now that at least did 267 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: today against the Raiders. You know, they didn't move the 268 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: ball for three quarters against the Patriots. He's really put 269 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: together a couple of good quarters here and there, and 270 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: not saying, uh, they're a bad team or anything, but 271 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: the offense is better. With broadcast Sweller, it's not been great. Well. 272 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: He miss throws in every game, but I think that's 273 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: to be expected of a guy has just been thrusted 274 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: in the position. I don't want to hear the nonsense 275 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: about putting Peyton Manning back in there, because what would 276 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning have done? Danny, It's no, that's not gonna happen. 277 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean Oswayler wasn't perfect, especially in the second half, 278 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: but that was really a function. The meltdown was a 279 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: function of, uh, just their inability to run the ball. 280 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: And to Marius Thomas, yeah, he had a terrible game. 281 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean he had he had a bad drop, he 282 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: lost a fumble and the Vernon Davis who was found 283 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: a way to have a role in this offense. One 284 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: of the key players in this game. Uh in the 285 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he was wide open on fourth down, probably 286 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: would have been a twenty yard game, would have put 287 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: them in Oakland territory, down three with about four minutes 288 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: to play. He just drops it. I mean, this is 289 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: the type of stuff that cannot happen, especially when he 290 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: got a young quarterback. You can't you can't let him 291 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: down like that. So Oslaer wasn't perfect, but he was 292 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: not to blame. Peyton Manning would not have done any 293 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: better than this. And they they still you know, they 294 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: lose control of the potential number one seed in the 295 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: a f C, which is big, but they still know 296 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: they have Bengals. You know, coming into Denver, you've got 297 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: a big Pittsburgh game coming up. The problem is they 298 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: had that schedule where they knew they had two really 299 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: tough games. You figured you would take care of business 300 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: and the other two. Now it gets complicated. I mean, 301 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: you have to play two good teams in a row. 302 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: In terms of the Steelers and the Bengals, you don't 303 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: want to fall out of that by spot. And for 304 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders, they stay in the mix at six and seven. 305 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: No one thinks they're going to the playoffs, but I 306 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: just think that they're stacking up these field good moments. 307 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: Cars had plenty of them. And now for Khalil Mack, 308 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: who was number one on our making the Leap list 309 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: before the season. We weren't exactly out on a limb 310 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: with Cleo mac He was a great last year, but 311 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: our point was he was going to go from great 312 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: to a superstar to one of the best players in 313 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the league. And I think he's done. I mean from 314 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: premier run stuffer to someone that had another element to 315 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: his game and he's done more than that. But what 316 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: about Marquette King Uh, Markette the punter had the best 317 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: game by a punter in the history of professional football. 318 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: No really, He punted ten times in this game. He 319 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: put five of those inside the twenty. He hung one 320 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: way up at the end of the game of fifty 321 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: five yard or that led to Emmanuel Sanders the muff 322 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: that's set up the game winning touchdown. He also put 323 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: a punt inside the five yard line that led to 324 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: a Khalil Max strip in the end zone for a safety. 325 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: He put Listen, this was Khalil Max Special day. But 326 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: the Hunter, Mark King, I mean, you gotta be special 327 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: to get into this show as a punter, so we 328 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: gotta think of something good to talk about on the 329 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Raiders when it's amazing they win a game where Latavious 330 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: Murray has one point seven yards per carry and their 331 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: three leading receivers all under fifty yards Michael Rivera, Clive Walford, 332 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and Seth Roberts. So they don't get anything out of 333 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: their big names and they still find a way to win. 334 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Endeavor this This Denver teams, I mean, this Oakland team 335 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: has been a lot of fun. Mark Cooper has hit 336 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: a wall. Uh in the past three weeks now, I 337 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: think he has ten catches on twenty targets no touchdowns. Uh, 338 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: there's long Kalil Mac life is good. Broncos fans are 339 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: probably feeling pretty low to right now to have this 340 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: type of game, and yet I still think this is 341 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: a team. I think this a f C as a 342 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: whole is a lot closer top to bottom, and I'm 343 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: including the Patriots in that than the NFC. Like the 344 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: three best teams in the league might be in the 345 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: NFC right now, and you look at some of these 346 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: good wild card teams in the a f C. Look 347 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: at the Broncos and Bengals have their troubles, even the 348 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Patriots have injury troubles, and I think like anything can 349 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: happen in this AFC playoffs. Let's move on to Kansas 350 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: City where the Chiefs. They didn't get a strong game 351 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: from their offense on Sunday, but the defense was good 352 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: enough to carry the day. It was a ten three 353 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: win over the Chargers. Linebacker d Ford had seven tackles 354 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: and three sacks. Monster Day. It's still Khalil mac day, though, 355 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, uh, and the Chiefs made a goal. 356 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: The Chiefs made a goal line stand in the final seconds. 357 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Seven straight wins. They're eight and five and they hold 358 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: one of the wild cards spots. The Chiefs, listen, this 359 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: is what I'm watching as a Jets fan. You're in 360 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: it hoping the Chargers can steal at the end. They 361 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: almost they almost did, and I got a feeling with Greg. 362 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: You and I talked about this downstairs. If they punch 363 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: it in, and they nearly did on the last play 364 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: of the game, I think they go for two. They're 365 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: just get out of there, get out of town. With 366 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: an eleven and ten win, and all of a sudden, 367 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are in trouble in the a f C. Well, 368 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta convert that to those two points. 369 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: And there's you know, not a lot of reason to 370 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: believe that Melvin Gordon is gonna run that ball. And 371 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: he had thirty five yards on fourteen carries. And this 372 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: is the third time now in four weeks that Philip 373 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: Rivers uh and his team has only scored three points 374 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: and that offensive line has killed him. But you, you 375 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: guys pick on my QB in deex Sometimes it's time 376 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: to start moving Philip Rivers down the list, whether it's 377 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: his fault or not. I mean, he's throwing the ball 378 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: to his two tight ends and Danny Woodhead. At this point, 379 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of vertical elements to that offense, 380 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: and there's just I mean, if you're Philip Rivers, he 381 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: played the game with the flu He did the best 382 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: he could. But you you thought that you brought in 383 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the next Ladanyan Thomlinson or a real game changing running back. 384 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: That's not been the case. Everything that this it's weird 385 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: to see what's happened with San Diego over the last 386 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: two years. Mike McCoy looked like a guy on the 387 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: Rises coach. Now, I gotta wonder if even keeps his job. 388 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: Probably doesn't. I think this is a reminder. I think 389 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: he keeps well. We'll see. They need to kept the 390 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: GM and they came in together. They have a close relationship. 391 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: We'll see. But this is a game that should make 392 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Steelers and Jets fans feel like, Okay, this Chiefs team 393 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: is good, but they're not unbeatable good. They have to 394 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: win ten straight to win out, which is just such 395 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: an impossible thing to do. They do have easy matchups 396 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks with at Ravens uh than 397 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: home for the Browns and the Raiders. The Raiders is 398 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: certainly not a simple game for them. And I don't 399 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: think this Chief's team is so good that they can 400 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: just count on winning any game that they just show 401 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: up for other than the last seven. By the way, 402 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin not that not that it was all about 403 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin today, but we've made fun of that contract 404 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: when they gave it to him, that superstar. He has 405 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: been worth that money. He's six or sixty eight today, 406 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: But on day when you're not really throwing the ball 407 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: that much, and just to have that competent of a 408 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: number one receiver. He's had a really good season and 409 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: now joining us on the line. He is uh, you know, 410 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: live from a haunted mansion in a rural New Jersey. 411 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: He pays a mortgage. He is Connor or welcome back 412 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: to be around the NFL podcast. Connor, what's happening, guys, 413 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: what's up? Good to hear your voice as always a 414 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: member of the family, around the NFL family. I'm just 415 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna take one guest, Connor. You're you're playing Madden right now? 416 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh you know it. I mean you know, like like 417 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: you said, there's uh, a lot of goings on. You know, 418 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: a GM never sleeps, so yeah we will. We're gonna 419 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: have to have you on maybe whether it's this week 420 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: or soon down the line, Uh, to get an update 421 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: on your franchise. Of course, you are in the process 422 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: of uprooting within your maddened world. You're uprooting the Patriots 423 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: and maybe relocating them to perhaps even a different country, 424 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: building around Griff Whalen as your franchise player. All stuff 425 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: that's that's going on right now. We'll get to that 426 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: down the line. But right now, let's talk about the 427 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: game you watched, uh and covered four round the NFL 428 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday. It was the Carolina Panthers, who are still perfect. 429 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: Cam Newton and company clinched a first round by in 430 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs, a thirty eight to zip wipe out of 431 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: the d o A Atlanta Falcons. What a joke. The 432 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: Falcons are, by the way, get it together and the 433 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: Panthers are now thirteen and oh Connor was this is 434 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: one side? And is the final score indicates? Yeah? I 435 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: mean it was the most effortless when that that I've 436 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: ever seen. I mean, Cam Newton was was converting second 437 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: in twenties with just a flick of a risk. There 438 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: was no one within ten yards of greig Olds. I 439 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: think that was on the first or second drive. And uh, 440 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: you know the Falcons were just they were done at halftime, 441 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: and I mean they could have canceled the rest of 442 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: the game. Forget about. They did it. By the way, 443 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: the Falcons pulled off the impossible. They started five and 444 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: oh and by Christmas Eve, we won't even think of 445 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: them anymore. They've managed to become irrelevant in a shorter 446 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: period of time than you could have ever thought possible 447 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: when you win your first five games. Yeah, And and 448 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: it was weird. I mean, you know, there was a 449 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: moment and and even kind of the analysts noted it 450 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: during the game where you know, they were down twenty 451 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: one nothing and they're about to get the ball, and like, 452 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, dan Quinn just called like a meeting, like 453 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: almost an entire team meeting on the sidelines, like guys, 454 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: could we please just you know, can we please just 455 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: stop this for like one second? Like four touchdown somewhat competent. 456 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: I mean, there was like a level of panic, like, 457 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: holy crap, this is way harder than I thought it was, 458 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, And and I I feel like they're really 459 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: in the thick of some ugliness right now. It's amazing that, 460 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: you know, going into the season, there's a great debate 461 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: like who's the best quarterback in this this division? Is 462 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: that Matt Ryan is a Cam Newton? Is it Drew Brees? 463 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: And you look at where Matt Ryan is right now 464 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: and where Cam Newton is right now. Kim Newton only 465 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: had to throw twenty one passes to have two dred 466 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: and sixty five yards and three touchdowns. That is efficient. 467 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: I always see people use the word officiing when they're 468 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: just lousy. Oh he was efficient fifth scene for fifty 469 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: five yards and they won. Now that that was efficient. 470 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Every other throw he has is deep down the field 471 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: to ted Din for a touchdown, and we're making excuses 472 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: by the way from Matt Ryan at this point. I 473 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: know he doesn't have the same players around him this year, 474 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: but he's having a bad year and the greg's QB 475 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: and I should reflect that. I think that Matt Ryan 476 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: right now is sort of at like pre Kevin Gilbride firing, 477 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: like Eli Manning, just desparations flailing at this point, you know, 478 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: like he's just sort of like whatever, I mean, this 479 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: isn't working out this year. We're just gonna love. I 480 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: love any called Connor callbacks to his beat and his 481 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: his previous light. Before we let you go, Connor, I 482 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: do want to mention and bring bring to light, you 483 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: know something that might be a little bit embarrassing, but 484 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: it's important just in terms of us being open and 485 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: with our listenership. You who have we do our picks 486 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: obviously every week, and uh Panthers have won all thirteen 487 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: of their games. You have picked against the Panthers A 488 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: even out of thirteen weeks. Uh, this season, this is 489 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: absolute madness. And when is it gonna end? I don't know. 490 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean next week you got the crafty Giants coming 491 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: to town and uh, you know, I just don't know. 492 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean the Giants almost upended the undefeated Patriots before 493 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: they come. Hey, picking the Giants too, this is a 494 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: bonus baby pick this weekend. I'm taking it to vague. 495 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: Third is this was the worst possible pick you could 496 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: have ever made is picking the Falcons in this game 497 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: and they lose their It's the worst pick because our 498 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: group is in battle with another editorial group in the building, 499 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: and Connors picks are attached to our group effort, and 500 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: he is an anchor taking our ship. I did some 501 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: math too, and if Connor would just pick like a 502 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: normal human being, you would essentially be tied with Mark 503 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: and I picking about six of the games correct. Instead, 504 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: he is he is the anchor or maybe the iceberg 505 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: and where the Titanic? Anyway, Well, all right, you know 506 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: next week I'll just I'll cut all the dandwiches off 507 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: my little boring life started start making him because they're 508 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: going sixteen and now they're not losing to the lousy 509 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Giants or the Falcons or the Bucks. They're going sixty 510 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: and now it's it's it's such a great story. Um, 511 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: all right, Connor, we'll let you go. You've got a 512 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: mortgage to pay and a house to defend from goblin. 513 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: So uh, we'll catch up to you a little bit 514 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: later and talk to some madden. Right, all right, good night, guys, 515 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: Connor is out the door. Let's move on, uh and 516 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: talk another NFC battle here, this between the Dallas Cowboys 517 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: and Green Bay Packers that Lambeau Of course, the Packers 518 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: haven't been the Packers at home this season even you know, 519 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: some buzz ing around the NFL post about, uh, it's 520 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: not cold enough at Lambeau Field. Is that hurting their 521 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: home field advantage? Anyway? Forget all that. The Green Bay 522 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Packers are alone once again in first place in the 523 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: NFC North following seven win over the Cowboys. Uh. This 524 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: is Mike McCarthy's first game back as the play call or. 525 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: He took that that gig back, and the Packers leaned 526 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: on James Starks and Eddie Lacey who all had very 527 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: nice days in the win. Mark, are the Packers back? Well, 528 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, after the first half, I was ready to 529 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: say yes McCarthy. Mike McCarthy takes back the controls, calls 530 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the plays and they looked outrageous early on, but it 531 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: started to crumble a little bit for a large period 532 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: of the second half where they punted four straight times. 533 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: The Packers still really struggled to convert third and short, 534 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: and it really was the ground game. I think it 535 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: was the commitment to the ground game two and thirty 536 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: yards rushing their most and eleven seasons. That was the 537 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: difference today. They were extremely balanced. I think McCarthy's goal was, hey, 538 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: we can't fix this offense in one game, but we 539 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: can be balanced. And there has been a lot of 540 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: faith in Eddie Lacy the last week or two with McCarthy, 541 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: and he let him go crazy, and it was Starks 542 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: as well, complimenting them. And then on the flip side 543 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: of the ball, you're dealing with Matt Castle, who has 544 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: never looked worse. I mean, this was a Matt Castle 545 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: basement game where when they needed him to throw third 546 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: and seven, he throws it for five yards, third and 547 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: eleven he throws it for seven. He cannot find anyone 548 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: beyond the sticks and really was the defense shutting down 549 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: Dallas in the second half that allowed Green Bay in 550 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: the end to just heat up, used the ground game 551 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: and punished Dallas late. Packers get eighty one plays in 552 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: this game, which is a ton, and they wore the 553 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: Cowboys down. You're right, it was only fourteen to seven 554 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: there in the fourth quarter. It looked like the Cowboys 555 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: were in this game, and they got the ball a 556 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: couple of times where you know, they could have driven 557 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: and tried to score the game in the fourth quarter, 558 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: and then there was one, you know, the touchdown drive 559 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: where Eddie Lacy and Stark started to get it going. 560 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: It really was their defense because they gave him so 561 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: many chances. If Cowboys had been moving the ball at 562 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: all throughout the day, we might be talking like, Okay, 563 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: this Packers team didn't really look that different on offense today, 564 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: but they got the job done. But the defense has 565 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: been good this year in spurts, and so if you 566 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: need a defense to win a game for you, it's 567 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: not so bad. It was a terrible game for Dez 568 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Bryant to go completely to sleep, and I blame that 569 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: on Castle as well. At the same time, the Sam 570 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: Shields goes out and Damarius Randall, green Bay's number one 571 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: first round cornerback, had to come in. And at that 572 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: point des Brian had one catch for nine yards. He 573 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: finished the game with one catch, three terrible drops. And 574 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: it's not all is out there. He's not fully healthy. 575 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: We know that. But it is a Matt Castle issue 576 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: and you're being too hard on that. Castle. By the way, 577 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: did you watch this car I'm saying you're you're taking 578 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: a Cowboys offense that does not have a running game. 579 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Has Jason Witten? He was running around like a mummy 580 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: at this point, he can't move anymore. Des Briant clearly 581 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: isn't right. They don't really have a second receiver to 582 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: lean on. This offense isn't that good. So asking Matt 583 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: Castle to raise them beyond beyond mediocrity is asking all 584 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: hold on his way. Let me just finish. What were 585 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: they doing when Tony Romo is playing? Not much nothing, 586 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: when Brandon Weeden was playing it might not be. What 587 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: I say is they did get a running game today, 588 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean very flat and it was. It wasn't a lot, 589 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: but Darren McFadden put them down at the goal line 590 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: with a chance to score and Castle throws an end 591 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: zone pick that went off his hands the game. I'm 592 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: not I I know who Matt Castle is. It's not 593 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: a shock that he's up and down each game. But 594 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: this is a quarterback that looked as dysfunctional as Brandon 595 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: Weed never did. And that was the whole point. Oh, 596 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: he's he's gives us a solid veteran presence. Well, the 597 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: same thing the Bill said. And he's just not that 598 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: player Ryan fitzpat. He's also thirty five or thirty six 599 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: years old. There's you know, maybe maybe like players like 600 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady don't age that much, but it's like he's 601 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: been in the league a long time. You're right, it's 602 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: time to time to get rid of Matt Castle. But 603 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: that Castle was just supposed to get them to Tony Romo. 604 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: The fact that he's had to come back in is 605 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: just almost asking a lot. It's it's just cruel and 606 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: at least I like there's a I like all the 607 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: Castle sympathy in here. I just think that he he 608 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: is not healthy. That's a very guy that's not good 609 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: for not being good. We already knew this. Well, here's 610 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the thing, we don't have to talk about him anymore. 611 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: I know he's on NFL Network as a supporting actor 612 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: against the Jets this week, but there four four nine, 613 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: So NFL Network producers, you can stop talking about the Cowboys. 614 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: You can stop jamming them into every discussion. They're no 615 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: longer in the NFC East. We got the Packers. They're 616 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: a l team and they're in this game, and they're 617 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: looking like the most like you know, they're looking like 618 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: an NFC North type of champion. Do we jam Dallison 619 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: to NFL Network shows? Oh? Yeah, are you kidding me? 620 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: He's like, let's talk about them. Let's reporters. They're single 621 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: handedly dooming his career one word at a time. Right now, 622 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: all right, let's move on to Russell Wilson. Man, he 623 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: is continuing a dominant run of play right now. He's 624 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: he threw five touchdown passes against a decimated Ravens team. 625 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, but still end of the day, thirty 626 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: five seven win for the Seahawks. There's suddenly eight and 627 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: five looking very much like the Seahawks that have dominated 628 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: football for the past two years. Mark, is there anyone 629 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: on the planet playing football better than Russell Wilson? You 630 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: know you're beating up on Matt Castle. Now let's talk 631 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: about a good quarterback. Thank you. Well, it's much more 632 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: enjoyable to talk about Russell Wilson. I mean, we just 633 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: talked with Connor about the way that Cam Newton sort 634 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: of effortlessly is at the top of his game. I 635 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: feel the same way about Wilson. And it didn't just 636 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: start this week. He's got a four game run with 637 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: sixteen touchdown zero picks, and it really it comes down 638 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: to what he's doing play by play. There was an 639 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: early touchdown past to Tyler Lockett that was just beautiful. 640 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: A read surveys the field throws a beautiful past, something 641 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: that you know, some people wonder if Russell Wilson a 642 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: year ago, two years ago is capable of that kind 643 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: of development. We're seeing it. The one big thing for 644 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: me because listen, they blew the Ravens out today. There 645 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: was no question two quarters and he was gonna win 646 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: this thing. But Thomas Rawls goes out with a season 647 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: ending an injury. And you know, even in one quarter, 648 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: it was in the first drive for them that he 649 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: had forty four yards. Looked like he was on his 650 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: way to another monster game on the ground, and now 651 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: you're maybe waiting for Lynch to get back before the playoffs. 652 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: No guarantee of that. Uh. Dawn Harris and Fred Jackson 653 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: on the ground looked absolutely miserable. So you've got to 654 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: reorganize that part of your offense. And that's a big 655 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: loss for them. No matter how Will Wilson's playing. That's 656 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: amazing to me how well Tyler Lockett is playing. Tyler 657 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: Locket is now one of the only two players in 658 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: NFL history as rookies to have five receiving touchdowns a 659 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: kick return TV and a punt return t D. And 660 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: his receiving skills are no joke. They have been coming 661 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: up in the last four weeks and we've been waiting 662 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: for them to develop a young, you know, vertical type 663 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: of receiver and they now have one they haven't and 664 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: Daniel like this, I won't go to town on Jimmy 665 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: Clauson because he actually this game is not on him. 666 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: They did what they could, but they're so depleted that 667 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: when they announced their offensive lineup, which I don't know 668 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: why they went with offense before the game, and you know, 669 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: the last guy, the fires burning and all the flags 670 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: are waving. It's supposed to be the guy that you 671 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: center your entire organization. It's Marshall Yonda and he proceeds 672 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: to help block what two yards in the first quarter. 673 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: They have nobody left. He's the only good player in 674 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: the team. They've got no one left. And we saw 675 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: a graphic if you're watching on YouTube, Doug Baldwin and 676 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett two of the top Fantasy scorers, which which 677 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: is amazing. They're gonna have to be more of a 678 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: pass first team. I know Marshall Lynch will come back 679 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: at some point, but you can't count on him to 680 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: just carry the load. And in the meantime, you gotta 681 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: win some games. It's gonna be all Russell Wilson. Meanwhile, 682 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking I was looking at the box score during 683 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: the game here, and I feel like this is very fitting. 684 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: If you look right now, Seattle, it's got all their 685 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: stats on the website and it just says no Baltimore passing, 686 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: no Baltimore rust. It doesn't matter. They're not they're not humans, 687 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: they're not dot Com. Well, it's it generates in the 688 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: same place. Keep it under the table, all right. I 689 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: won't tell anyone anything else on this game. Guest. Seattle 690 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: is in that five seed now, so they don't they 691 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: don't really have to worry about other teams. You know, 692 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: they still have to go to Arizona. But if they 693 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: go to the NFC East winner, which is how it 694 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: would set up, I love it. Forget about what a 695 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: great way to get rid of the NFC East from 696 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: our lives lives is for the Seahawks to go into 697 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: the meadow Lands or the Link or Landover and just 698 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: absolutely drop a bomb. And and whether it's Arizona or Carolina, 699 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: that is the last team you want coming in on 700 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: divisional weekend, especially if if you do have that NFC schaming, 701 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: maybe you don't have Marson Lynch, but you give another 702 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: week to get healthy, because that that is the issue 703 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: for me. They are they are one. They want to 704 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: be a run first team and they can't right now. 705 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: Moving on the New York Jets. There you go, boys 706 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: taking care of business at the Meadowlands on Sunday. They 707 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: jumped out to a twenty seven nothing halftime lead and 708 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: cruise to a thirty to eight win over the listless 709 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Typoons. You know, I'll tell you something about the Titoons. Uh, 710 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: you wanna talk about a team that sucked this room in. 711 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: We thought that they had turned the corner. They thought, oh, 712 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: they got the quarterback and they have some frisky pieces around. 713 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: This team stinks and they didn't even they didn'tven look 714 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: like they wanted to be there by the second quarter 715 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: of this game. Guys making business decisions on tackles. Uh. 716 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: It seems to be some loafing from my opinion, from 717 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: my advantage point. Uh. And I think that Listen, is 718 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: there any way to fire an interim coach? No, you don't. 719 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: You just go through the season and you start over. 720 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting there. But the Jets, they did what they 721 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: needed to do. And this is why I'm starting to 722 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: get excited. And this is why, again, Greg, you were 723 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: wrong with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I hope to see this rectified 724 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: in the QB inx he has in the last three games, 725 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: He's got nine touchdowns, no no interceptions, passer rating over 726 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: one hundred. This was supposed to be the time of 727 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: the season that Ryan Fitzpatrick came down to earth in 728 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: the past where he starts playing poor and sinks his team. 729 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: But it's the actual opposite where he's been up and 730 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: down this season. With some highs and lows. He's played 731 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: really smart, good football. He's on pace to throw for 732 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: over four thousand yards more than thirty touchdowns. And in 733 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker you have and you can 734 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: make the argument, obviously, uh that Pittsburgh probably has a 735 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: better one two punch, but there aren't many that are 736 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: better than Decker and Marshall. Right now, they both had 737 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: touchdowns again in this game, and they're both on pace 738 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: for a thousand yards. Uh. Well, Marshall's already over it. 739 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: He's on pace for romift hundred double dig of touchdowns. 740 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: That's a real one to punch. When Chris Ivory's right, 741 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: this offense is good. It's the top ten offense. Let 742 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: me ask you something, because I think we can look 743 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: at the Jets now and say that they've done enough 744 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: to be they'll be there in the final week in 745 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: the contention for the playoffs. It's a tough situation. Got Steelers, 746 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: they'll get they'll get to the final week. You've got 747 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Patriots, and Bills left in your schedule. They 748 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: can win two of those because the Bills feel like 749 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: a lost team to me on some level. But do 750 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: you see them as a team that can actually do 751 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: some damage in the playoffs. I think they could hang 752 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: with any team in the a f C. I really do. 753 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think there's anything especially now the 754 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: Bengals have been compromised. Denver you know, isn't dominating anyone 755 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: right now. The Jets always play the Patriots tight. The 756 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna be tough for anyone, but I I 757 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: think the Jets, uh could definitely at least hang with them. 758 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: I think the Jets would be a tough out in 759 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um so, yeah, I think they're dangerous if 760 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: they get there, but the path is still hard. Chris 761 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: Ivory is playing well. You mentioned Patrick. I think, yeah, 762 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: you guys talk about being too hard on someone. I 763 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: don't think Chris I ever really ever looked that different 764 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: this season. I really think it was a string of 765 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: games where the offensive line wasn't playing as well and 766 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: they played some better teams, and he's been running with 767 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of juice. You're right, Fitzpatrick was coming off 768 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: I think his best game of the year against the Giants. 769 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: They really dominated that game. I think we're unlucky that 770 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: they were down in it, and the Jets are a 771 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: complete team. I mean you mentioned Decker and Marshall. They 772 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: have more touchdowns than any Jets receiving tandem in Jets history. 773 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a nice team. Uh. And 774 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: they're eight and five and most years ten or eleven wins. 775 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: That's gonna get you right in. But you mentioned it 776 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, and we'll talk about them coming. I mean, 777 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: we talked about them already. And then the Steelers they're 778 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: gonna they might have to win out to get in, 779 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: which is very different. That's asking a lot, especially when 780 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots under schedule. And I think even though you're 781 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: right Mark about the Bills being a team that's deeply inconsistent. 782 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: Knowing Rex, he'll have them pumped up in Orchard Park 783 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: in week seventeen if it's a win and go home 784 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: for the Jets scenario. So I think that could be 785 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: a tough game too. So the Jets have a very 786 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: tough road. It would have been really nice of the 787 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: charges could have knocked off the the Chiefs today. It 788 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: did not happen, But listen, what else can hask our 789 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: first three game winning streak since two thousand and eleven, 790 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: The eight and five. The team was four and twelve 791 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: last year. No one gave him a shot. You did, 792 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: you said top ten? I didn't. I don't win ten games. 793 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: I thought they had the pieces and it's really it's 794 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: worked out, but not in the way I thought it would. 795 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: I never thought this was gonna be a team with 796 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: a good offense like this is a good offense, Tan Gailey. 797 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: They have that new Coordinator of the Year award. He's 798 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: got to be in the mix, and he had Max. 799 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: I mean, there's they have some talent, but he's doing 800 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: a great Yeah. I mean you look at you know, 801 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: Ivory in Marshall and Fitzpatrick. These guys hadn't played together 802 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: last year at one point, so they're coming together at 803 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: the right time. And the last six quarters for Fitzpatrick 804 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: had been outrageous. The end of that Giants game out 805 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: of his mind. He deserves a lot of credit. Hey 806 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 1: the man, I'm not talking. Although you should pay hands, 807 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: pay me, but pay pay Mohammed Wilkers into Big Mo 808 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: three sacks. He has twelve on the year, just one 809 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: half sacks. I have uh an old jet whose name 810 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm blanking on Shawan Ellis who at twelve and a 811 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: half and two thousand three. So he's starting to get 812 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: into some hollow territory and Jets his three pay him 813 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: get it done. The Rives contract could hurt them though, 814 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: with this stuff. As good as Seldon Richardson and you 815 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: know expected Lennon Williams there, you know, they were kind 816 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: of the new exciting guys. I mean, he's the best 817 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: player on the defensive line. He's a beast best player 818 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: on the defense. But Ryan Fitzpatrick is the team m 819 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: v P. Greg And that's why give it to Marshall, 820 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: a top ten offense quarterback. You gotta put him higher 821 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: in your QB. Just do. Let's go, Jets rest to 822 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: the podcast in thirty five minutes. Just keep it. I 823 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: like that. I like, don't worry, Mark, We'll get to 824 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: your Browns. I'm not asking to not asking to get 825 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: to the you know what you can number one. I'm 826 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: we're happy for you, Dan. You don't have to have 827 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: this streak of aggression about the Jets were actually feeling 828 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: good for you, Like, I don't think you are feeling 829 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: good for me. You really don't know. I don't I 830 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: actually texted Damn two days ago to say how great 831 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: I thought they played against the Giants. When I say 832 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: I think, I think the brown then we'll get to 833 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: the Browns. Them winning puts you in a better headspace. 834 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: When it comes to the Jets doing well, it means 835 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: nothing for you. I'm actually we'll gettingly happy for my friend. 836 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: But it's gonna take weeks for for the ice to 837 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: melt around Dan on this one. All right, here we go, 838 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: moving on. The Jacksonville Jaguars have never scored fifty points 839 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: in the regular season, well at least until Sunday. Blake 840 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: Bortles through three touchdowns and the Jaguars scored a touchdown 841 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: in every second half position possession, a fifty one sixteen 842 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: win over the Colts, A fifty burger. The cults get 843 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: dropped on him. Forty burger in the second half alone. Absolutely. 844 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: Jacksonville actually trailed at halftime in this game, and they 845 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: were getting booed by the home crowd at ever Bank Field, 846 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: which is a weird place. Then they outscored the Colt 847 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: three in the last two quarters. The Jaguars alive still 848 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: with the pulse. They're called stink. They have a pulse. 849 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean they're one game out right now. If they 850 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: had just won that game against Indianapolis the first time around, 851 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: which I covered, I remember it well, where they lost 852 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: by three and a million things went against them and Matt. 853 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: It was the first time we saw Matt hasselback. They 854 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: would they would be in first in this division instead 855 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: there one game back. And if nothing else, they have 856 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: some identity, and it's part of the identity is they're 857 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: one of the worst defense in the league. But the 858 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: other part of the identity is they're fun to watch 859 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: and Allen Robinson and Blake Bortles, and they can put 860 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: up points in a Horry Hurry thirty nine points that 861 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: last week, fifty one this week. Yeah, we've seen spurts 862 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: of this with Jacksonville and it's not consistent and that's 863 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: the issue. But if you if you want an argument 864 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: to keep the GM, who found all these parts in 865 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: David Caldwell and the coach question, Now I absolutely would 866 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think you blow the machine up at 867 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: this point. There's too many signs of growth here, especially 868 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: on offense. Well, they hit on the quarterback that was 869 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: they were they they liked Blake Bortles last year. They 870 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: went and they got him, I believe with a third 871 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: overall pick and now in year two his progression he's ahead. 872 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: I know we've been I don't know, maybe a little 873 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: hard on boils of time when he's had some lapses 874 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: in play. But when you look at the numbers, thirty touchdowns, 875 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: nine interceptions, he's gonna throw for well over four thousand yards. 876 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: He is a guy in year two that's ahead of pace, 877 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: and you think about what this team can be if 878 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: he continues to progress. I mean, they listen, things are 879 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: looking up now in Jackson. This has been a lousy 880 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: division for a while. But between Mariota, Boardles and Andrew Luck, 881 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: when he gets healthy and I think returns to form, 882 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: it's suddenly a fun division moving forward. The question is 883 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: who's gonna win this division this year? And now you 884 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: know the Matt Hasselbeck thing as falling apart, and they're 885 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: hoping Andrew Luck is back next week. They played the 886 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: text of that by the way you did. But enough 887 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: of this, the Matt Hasselbeck glory boy train, it's about 888 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: about to fall off. Excellent area man predicts forty year 889 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: old under no, no, no hassleback will be fine. No, 890 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: I was saying, I was just giving him credit for 891 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: what he did, and no matter what happens, he has 892 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: had a wildly successful season to go to manage to 893 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: win these games. But you can't count on him to 894 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: win games for you or any quarterback behind what this 895 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: line is doing. The terrible offensive line. You know, Frank Gore, 896 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: he's beat up. This is one of the more depressing 897 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: teams to watch right now. And I there's no way 898 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: to imagine that they're gonna go on a run. And 899 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm Jim Mercy, I'm like a little 900 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: nervous about even putting uh Andrew Luck back in the 901 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: lineup behind this line to take another beating. I think 902 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: this is a team in a lot of trouble. The 903 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars to me, are way more compelling team right now 904 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: by far. Then and then the Colts are, which was 905 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: not the way this was supposed to be. Uh so 906 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: everything is going well with the Jaggers. One thing, you know, 907 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: this new extra point rule. Poor Jason Myers. No one 908 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: this flies under the radarchsist in Jacksonville. Their kickers missed 909 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: seven extra points this season. It won't be the kicker 910 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: get a new kicker. Well. On the CBS telecast, it 911 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: was explained that Gus Bradley had not gotten rid of 912 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: Myers because he felt it was too far into the 913 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: season to get rid of a kicker, which makes no sense. 914 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: So it's like, instead of yeah, a new guy that 915 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: can make to integrate him into the locker room, that 916 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: takes months, Yeah exactly. I mean, no one's gonna talk 917 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: to him anyways. We all spent the off season. I 918 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: think we all that the extra point rule didn't go 919 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: far enough, but it certainly seems to have because even 920 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: Sebastian Janikowski's missing extra points. I mean, we're coming off 921 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: a week where a ton of guys missed it last 922 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: But here's the problem, because they did because they went 923 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: half measure on it. We're seeing a ton of missed 924 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: extra points. How exciting is that? But people aren't going 925 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,959 Speaker 1: for two. I gotta put it on the one yard line. 926 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: Well that's a cultural thing too, and the in the 927 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: better coaches like the Steelers are doing it. The Steelers 928 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: have gone through to a ton, I mean a ton 929 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: compared to other teams. Then practically no one else who 930 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: wins mark who wins the a f C South, Well, 931 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: who do I want to win it? Who? Who wins it? Well, 932 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: I I go Texans because when I watched the Texans 933 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: versus the Cults, even though you know the Texans are 934 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: the most creative team on offense and they've got the 935 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: most disruptive defense of the group, I don't know. I mean, 936 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: barring an implosion, which is totally possible, Texans most likely 937 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: the Texans Andlts winner from next week in Indiapolis wins division. 938 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: We like Jacksonville. But the winner of that Colts game 939 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: gets to seven wins into Jacksonville. Is then that you know, 940 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: at the very least two wins behind that team. It 941 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: comes down to that Colts Texans game, and man Chuck 942 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: o'gon is not saving his job. Doesn't matter what happens, 943 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: they have to win two playoff games for even for 944 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: him to have a chance. So the Jets one, uh, 945 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: the Steelers won the Chiefs one. So the Bills they 946 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: needed to win to kind of stay afloat, but they 947 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: did not. The Eagles are remained just good enough to 948 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: hang around the top the NFC East. Sam Bradford through 949 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and the Bills, who saw their their their 950 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: playoff hopes now virtually evaporate with this loss. Greg Lashawn 951 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: McCoy's revenge game did not go to plan, did it. 952 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: It did not, and it ended in such fitting fashion. 953 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: Leshawn McCoy jogging off the field without shaking anyone's hands 954 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: or anything, with twelve seconds left, runs back into the 955 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: locker room, was seen by reporters, uh slamming his helmet 956 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: against the wall, yelling the F word Rex Ryan. Meanwhile, 957 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: after the game, immediately, uh, you know, he just goes 958 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: in full Rex Ryan mode. Let's take a listen. This 959 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: one's tough because I thought we were the better team today, 960 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: but obviously we got beat. We got ourselves to blame. 961 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: You can't have that many penalties, obviously in and snowbrainer 962 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: once jump offsides a zillion times, and we gotta I 963 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know how many holding calls, but it looked like 964 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: it was a record out there. You know how it 965 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: affects us? You know, Uh, we're gonna be sick, I 966 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: can tell you that much. If this, uh this cost us, 967 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: which it probably will. I almost thought of the Jets 968 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: press conference where he said that they were out of it, 969 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: like he was almost trying to do that again. Well, 970 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: if this hurts us, like it probably will, like he 971 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: was almost trying to get that going again, and just 972 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: for him to say that they're the better team after 973 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: another one of these tough losses, it's just too much. 974 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't miss this, Rex, Ryan, I mean, this is 975 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: not this is familiar ground. If you were a follower 976 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 1: of Rex in New York, uh, you know, the team 977 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: getting out playing their opponent but losing narrowly, penalties killing them. 978 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's familiar well, and and as was as 979 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: was written in the post by Greg that so many 980 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: of the penalties are not coming because of great effort 981 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: on defense during a play. It's happening pre snap, which 982 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: is the stuff that coaching should fix. And this has 983 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: been the most consistent thing about an inconsistent team is 984 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: hurting themselves game after game. If you if you even 985 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: had them as an average team when it came to flags, 986 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: I think they have two more wins at this point. 987 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: They have outgained their opponent in six of their seven losses, 988 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: which is a totally ridiculous stat And I know why 989 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: Rex felt like they were the better team today because 990 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: the running game was solid. Lashawn McCoy really was the 991 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: best running back in this game by far. He goes 992 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: over a hundred yards from scrimmage despite having some place 993 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: taken back by penalty. His offensive line was not good. 994 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: That's where Philadelphia did look good. Fletcher Cox was great, 995 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: but Tyrod Taylor I think played well for three quarters. 996 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: They pretty much did what they wanted to offensively. But 997 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles give them credit. Sam Bradford is playing the 998 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: best he's played all year, made some big plays down 999 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: the field. They were aggressive in the Bill's mistakes and 1000 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: their game management, and just at the end, for instance, 1001 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: there's one of those pre snap penalties changes it from 1002 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: a third and two or a third and three rather 1003 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: to a third and eight, so they have to go 1004 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: deep the next play in Tyrod Taylor throws an interception 1005 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: in the game. Game all by the way, we did 1006 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: get uh. We did catch up to Lashawn McCoy after 1007 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: the game. Actually a lot of people, you know, they 1008 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: were not able to get him, did catch up with him. Brandy, 1009 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: can we play that little it's not there? But Howling coyote? 1010 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: Is that him? That that I don't want to hear about. 1011 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: Shawn McCoy A bad another bad week in a bad season. 1012 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 1: He's playing well enough, He's still Leshawn McCoy as a player. 1013 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 1: But you know, I read a profile believe was tye 1014 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: are done for the Buffalo News this morning and her 1015 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: partner that I believe was meant to give, uh, you know, 1016 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: a more human face, Lashawn McCoy. I just came out 1017 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: of it thinking he's, you know, kind of like a 1018 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: selfish dude and not particularly a pleasant person to be around. 1019 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: And what what he did today, it's just not a 1020 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: good look. It's like, come on, Not to pound on 1021 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: the point, but part of the problem is Rex Ryan, 1022 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: who players like him because he doesn't, you know, prevent 1023 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: them from talking and creating bullet board bolt and board material. 1024 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: But a perfect week when this was season on the 1025 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: line to not have your running back mouth off seven 1026 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: days in a row before the game, and maybe it 1027 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: has no matter on it, but the fact that this 1028 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: became about one guy versus the entire Buffalo Bills is 1029 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: not good. It's not a good look for Rex Ryan. 1030 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says. So they're two back 1031 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: in the wild card of three teams, which means they 1032 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: are out of it. But the Eagles are right in 1033 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: it now at six and seven tie to top the 1034 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: NFC East. Will see if the Giants, uh, you know, 1035 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: tie them on Monday night. But Sam Bradford, if nothing else, 1036 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: I think played probably the best game of the year. 1037 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't perfect and there's an interception. Uh. 1038 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: They're splitting the carries now three ways between Sprawles, Matthews 1039 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: and DeMarco Murray, which is a good sign. Zach Ertz, 1040 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: who also had a costly drop, actually made a big play. 1041 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 1: They hit a couple plays down the field and Nelson 1042 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: Aghil Nelson Agholar sighting just I don't think they're a 1043 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: good team, but they're at least looking a little more 1044 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: like an eight and eight type of team that might 1045 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: sneak away with this division. We'll see, all right, next 1046 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: levelt's move on. It's get another friend of ours on 1047 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: the phone. He's based out of Chicago. It's amazing that 1048 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: he's even time to watch games because his body is 1049 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: a temple and he works to make it that way. 1050 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: He is Kevin patcha come on at you going on? 1051 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: Fellas well? What's up, buddy? How's everything going? Oh it's 1052 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: going great. The one one time once I get to 1053 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: hear your voice stand, it just makes my day. Well, 1054 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're doing your favor here because we could 1055 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: have you on to talk about your lions, but instead 1056 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the game of the day the Redskins. Okay, 1057 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't the game of the day, but there were 1058 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs in this Redskins Bears. 1059 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: What was your big takeaways? Well, by the way, what 1060 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: is Greg? Greg doing the setup? What's now? Just when 1061 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: I started talking and here's the here's this because we've 1062 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: got to know what the score was. We have a 1063 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: system here, Greg, people have a whole thing AT's home. 1064 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: You can see you move to the left, and it 1065 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it changes the show. I started talking and 1066 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: then I was going to ask him a question. We're 1067 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: just yeah, I think that you know, Dan's role as 1068 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: the host typically lays these up, but Greg is my boss, 1069 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: So you know, Greg, whatever you need to do to 1070 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: get your point across eyes side with Robbie Gold missed 1071 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: the potential game tying field goal in the final minutes. 1072 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: The difference one lost for the Bears to the Redskins, 1073 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: who are back in the mix in the NFC right 1074 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,959 Speaker 1: in the middle of things. Uh with everyone else losing 1075 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: at all times. NFC East go ahead, Sorry, patro Oh 1076 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 1: don't know Worries. I thought it was really a perfect 1077 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 1: ending to it, the midfield bow, because it's kind of 1078 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: like Greg said, it was back and forth. At one 1079 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: point Washington was up four keeen nothing, two separate fourteen 1080 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: point leads, and Chicago came back, and I just thought 1081 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: the main peplay for me was that Jordan Reid was unstoppable. 1082 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: They no Bears linebacters could stick with them out of 1083 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: his cut team open all day, and when he got 1084 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: into the second game of running over depensive backs, it 1085 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: was really an impressive performance to get a hundred twenty 1086 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown and should have had two touchdowns. 1087 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: He didn't drop a ball, he had nine nine touches 1088 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,479 Speaker 1: on nine targets. It was just phenomenal. He's the reason 1089 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: they won that game. The rest of it was typical 1090 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: typical Redskins. Like fIF team played drive to open the game. 1091 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: They had a bunch of three ounces in the middle 1092 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: of the game, and they had a long drive to 1093 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: start second half where they scored a touchdown. But in 1094 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: the middle it was just long drive, short passes, some 1095 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: Kirk cousins and then they had bogged down. This is 1096 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: Jordan Reid was the only consistent factor in the game. 1097 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: This is the Jordan Read by the way, that was 1098 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: on our making the list, making the leap list last year. 1099 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: I think everyone saw his ability to be this guy. 1100 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: So for him to turn into this player, that's certainly 1101 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: somebody to build around in Washington. And they have a 1102 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: road to win. This is the first time they've done 1103 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: it all year, you know, I know there was uh, 1104 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: there was some luck at the end that both went 1105 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: the Redskins way. You have Gold missing the kick for 1106 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: the second straight week. I mean, the Robbers could have 1107 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: a winning record possibly if Gold had hit these kicks 1108 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: instead there five and eight, and then you had another 1109 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: play that was deflected up in the air on a 1110 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: cousin's pass and then the Redskins catch it for a 1111 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: big play. But sometimes you need some breaks, and they 1112 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 1: just needed to win, you know, one or two of 1113 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: these road games. And I really think now that that 1114 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: Redskins Eagles game is the one to watch the kind 1115 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: of decide that the vision do you, Kevin, do you 1116 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: like watching nfc S football teams? Not? How about the Bears? 1117 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: You're like the Bears beat writer right now? Yeah, the Bears. 1118 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: The Bears are kind of a really boring team to watch. Frankly, 1119 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: They're big plays mainly come on Alstan Jeffrey heaves from 1120 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler, which was today when somehow the Redskins forgot 1121 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: to cover fifty yards. But for the Bears, They're often 1122 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: was pretty non existent. Matt and and Langford couldn't really 1123 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: get going. The The Redskins d front was dominant. They 1124 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: dominated the offensive line of the Bears all all games. 1125 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: Color was under the immense pressure. He had to scramble 1126 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot, and he was just playing sandlot ball and 1127 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: was just chucked it up and hope. It was pretty 1128 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: much their offense for most of it. Kirk Cousins led 1129 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: him back in the game with one of the worst 1130 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: picks ever early in early in the second half, and 1131 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: that's what got the Bears right back in the game. 1132 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't for that pick at the Way twenty yard 1133 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: line that he should never have thrown. The Redskins should 1134 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: have walked away with it, just because their fronts played 1135 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: better on both sides of the ball. Before we let 1136 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 1: you go, Mr Patrick, and thank you for an accurate 1137 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: summation of that game. I just I don't know where 1138 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: you were exactly when Aaron Rodgers connected on that help? 1139 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, not because I'm you know, like reveling in it, 1140 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: but I'm curious one of the more crushing losses in 1141 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: lines history. Where were you tell us I was sitting 1142 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: on my couch because I was at six am the 1143 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: next day? Um reaction was that happened? Of course it happened. 1144 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: Of course after the face mask you knew was gonna happen. 1145 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: Come on, it's the line everybody knew. I was actually 1146 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: not too upset about it because it means the end 1147 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: of Jim Caldwell, So I was worried about it. They 1148 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 1: might stick with him if he had a huge hot streak. 1149 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I'm actually it actually might work out 1150 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: for the best. So you're telling me if I go 1151 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: into your apartment in Chicago and the couch which is 1152 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: to the right of your entire home equipment workout center 1153 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: that overlooks the city, there's not gonna be a huge 1154 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: hole over the couch that you punched the wall. You're 1155 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: being honest with us here. If I'm going to punch 1156 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: a wall, it's not over a loss for a four 1157 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: win team, that's for sure. I understand that thought process. Um, 1158 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, always good to hear from you. Uh, your 1159 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 1: voice sounds great. I'm sure your body looks better. I'm 1160 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: working on it, Dan, just for you. All right, there 1161 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: goes Kevin patra H, the other member of the round 1162 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: the NFL team. Uh. Family is how I like to 1163 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: look at him? Maybe that's just me? No, well that's fair, 1164 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: he of face. Not the only run you got, Colleen 1165 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: Wolf Well, I don't listen when I say family talking 1166 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 1: about the writing fraternity of around the NFL. Let's move on, 1167 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: uh to another game. Listen, Mark, it's time. Now, it's time. 1168 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 1: The show begins for Mark Cessler. Because Johnny Manzel made 1169 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 1: the most of his belated starting opportunity, threw a touchdown pass, 1170 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: kept the sticks moving all afternoon. Ten for the Browns 1171 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 1: over the Niners. Mr Cessler, this is a nice start 1172 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: to Manzell's Cleveland audition. But let me ask you a question. 1173 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: Are you a little unhappy if they won this game? 1174 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: Because you're thinking big picture and draft day. I'm not 1175 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: talking about the Costner film, No, Because I think if 1176 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: you're if you're a team like Cleveland, you need to 1177 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: have something one or two things to go into the 1178 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: off season to plan around and have some hope, and 1179 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: Manzell look at he again showed that he can play. 1180 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: I mean it was it wasn't perfect. He had one 1181 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: terrible pick, but he also did a nice job with 1182 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,479 Speaker 1: the rest of his thirty one attempts. He moved the ball, 1183 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: found open receivers, and they for the first time all season, 1184 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: their run game was absolutely dominant. I mean, they blew 1185 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: up for two hundred plus yards. And this is the 1186 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: team that was advertised to Browns fans all off season, 1187 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: and I think it actually only puts more weight and 1188 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: pressure on Petton because finally with man'zell back out there, 1189 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 1: you have to go back to his last win against 1190 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: the Titans in Week two, that they've gone through this 1191 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, parade with all these other quarterbacks, and the 1192 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: argument was why not just put Manzel out there earlier? 1193 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: And you have to wonder if you wasted two months 1194 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: of his development because he's still making mistakes and that 1195 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: he probably would have gotten over if he had played 1196 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: all his game. Partly his fault, I mean it's partly 1197 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: his fault. It's partly his fault, but it's it's just 1198 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: the way they went into the season and he burned 1199 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: their trust in the off season. I just I look 1200 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 1: at it like this is almost a lost year that 1201 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: maybe in this last month you asked me, do I 1202 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: want to see this happening if you're if you're in 1203 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland and you're rooting for this team to grow, Yes, 1204 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 1: you want to see a quarterback development no matter where 1205 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: you are, because forget the draft. You can you know 1206 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: they've been getting first round high first round picks for 1207 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: a decade plus and it's not it's changed nothing. Well, 1208 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: they also he also had the benefit of the run 1209 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: game and the defense that they haven't had all year, 1210 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: and the benefit of playing the team that's ranked dead 1211 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: last in Football Outsiders metrics with It's It's Browns and 1212 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: where the two teams at the bottom, and the Browns 1213 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: were dominant in this game. But I but I agree. 1214 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you lose the development necessarily if he 1215 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: if he steps up and has a good month, that's 1216 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna make a big difference in how they look at 1217 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: the off season. So it can't just be this one week. 1218 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: We'll see the next three weeks. Yeah, And I think 1219 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: it'll be telling to find out when Cleveland plays Seattle 1220 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: next week where they really are because they punished Blaine 1221 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: Gabber nine sacks. This is a team that only had 1222 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: seventeen sacks coming into the year. So I don't want 1223 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: to say it was flukey, but it was just that 1224 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: they Greg's right, they were paying in a terrible basement 1225 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: feeding team and so Cleveland, yeah, you're bet you're better 1226 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: than the Niners potentially. I don't know where that leaves 1227 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: you ultimately. Oh man, we're looking at the upcoming schedule. 1228 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: It might leave you with three tough games here this 1229 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: at Seahawks, at Chiefs versus Steelers. It doesn't get any 1230 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: tougher than that for the for the Browns, so they 1231 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: have their work cut out. There's not a win there. 1232 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Blaine Gabber. By the way, when you 1233 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: get sacked nine times, you wonder if the you know, 1234 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: if it's gonna get jittery in the pocket and maybe 1235 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: come it will start seeing that Jacksonville Jaguars blame because 1236 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: that's a tough beating to take in a game. You're right, 1237 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, in the reports going in, couldn't have been 1238 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: worse for the Browns because Ian Rappaport noted that and listen, 1239 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: this has not been a secret for a long time, 1240 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: but the coaching staff and the front officer at odds, 1241 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: they don't like the players the front office picked. The 1242 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: front office doesn't think the players are being coached well. 1243 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: So it seems as though it changes and maybe deep 1244 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: cutting changes are imminent. Once again, I think we'll find 1245 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,919 Speaker 1: out more about that this week. Alright, anything else, Mark 1246 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: not really right? Well, then let's move on. Drew Brees 1247 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: through a pair of touchdown passes to Markus Colston. Marcus Colston, 1248 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: welcome back to relevance. And the New Orleans Saints stopped 1249 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: a four game losing streakin over the Bucks. Uh. Greg, 1250 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: just when we were starting to buy in on Tampa. 1251 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: There's a team that could be a sneaky playoff group here. 1252 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: They lay an egg against the Saints, probably blow up 1253 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: their season. Yeah, it's disappointing because they're gonna be on 1254 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football this week against the Rams. And we 1255 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: were enjoying this Bucks team as a relevant UH squad 1256 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: and gave that game a little relevance. And in reality, 1257 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: the Vikings are now two games up on this Bucks 1258 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: team there in the sixth spot, and it's hard to 1259 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: imagine anything but the current six combination of teams in 1260 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: the NFC. But making the playoffs, I mean you just 1261 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: have to figure the Vikings and the Packers are getting 1262 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 1: in and really, uh, the NFC East is the one 1263 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: thing up for grabs, and it can't be too surprised 1264 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks haven't been dominant throughout this streaks that they 1265 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: end up splitting, uh, the season series, even vision rival, 1266 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: even the games that they're winning. These these are games 1267 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: where they're just pulling them out there. They're either like 1268 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: the best bad team or the worst good team. They're 1269 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, they're that in that place. But that's fine 1270 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: for this year. If they can win seven games and 1271 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Winston makes progress there, this is a good year for them. 1272 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: It's a great year just because of Jamis Winston. Yeah, 1273 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean people had Tampa earmarked going right back for 1274 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: another number one pick, and you know, there was very 1275 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: little to hang your hat on, and everyone thought maybe 1276 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith could be you know, out of there, if 1277 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: not the end of the year before that even and 1278 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: so I think it's forget the playoffs. You're not gonna 1279 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: go make a big run in the NFC, even if 1280 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: you snuck in. Is the number six team probably, but 1281 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: you've got a lot to build around, and what can 1282 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: a bad team ask for more than that? You know 1283 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: what's interesting too? On the other side, Drew Brees is 1284 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: having kind of a weird season where there are weeks 1285 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,439 Speaker 1: when he looks like old Drew Brees, and then there's 1286 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 1: weeks when he looks like old Drew Brees, and I 1287 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: think that he's going to be somebody on a States 1288 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: team that's rebuilding, and you think maybe something can happen 1289 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: somewhere else. It's hard to if you, let's say, we'll 1290 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: use I don't We'll use the Browns as an example. 1291 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: If you're the Browns, uh are you getting? Are you 1292 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna make a hard play for Drew Brees and think 1293 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: he's still gonna be Drew Brees? You know well shown 1294 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: at the times, including today, it's a great question. How 1295 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: about a hard play for the combination of Sean Payton 1296 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Brees? Right, because Breeze is one of the highest 1297 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: paid quarterbacks in the league, and if Sean Payton is 1298 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: not going to be there next year, then you start 1299 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: to worry how good is Drew Brees gonna be. We're 1300 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,479 Speaker 1: just raining down on the parade of a rare st twin. 1301 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, everything about this was weird. C J. Spiller 1302 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: is still in the NFL and he had three carries 1303 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: in a game where Tim Hightower had twenty eight and 1304 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: c J. Spiller is not gonna be on that team 1305 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: from it, But that's insane. Tim hi Terrell was literally 1306 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: not in the NFL for four years. I don't I 1307 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 1: don't want to hear. I don't want to see one 1308 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: more story come out in any of these beats or 1309 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: on the Around the NFL page about how c J. 1310 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Spiller is about to finally step into a bigger role, 1311 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: because I saw it popping cropping up again this week 1312 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: when Thomas went to I R, it's not gonna happen. Yeah, well, 1313 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: mark Ingram they do not like him in the scheme obviously, 1314 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's not healthy or he's not himself. It's just 1315 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: not happened. Six touches, nine yards and I couldn't agree more. 1316 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna have a bigger role and that's going to 1317 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: be in another city next season. And and what does 1318 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Marcus Colston have to do to get his name pronounced 1319 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: right by Dan Hansis Players in the Hall of fame 1320 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position, Marcus Colston has more receptions 1321 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: than fourteen of them. That is a Peter King stat 1322 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: from this week. That just shows how the NFL has changed. 1323 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: But this has been a great player, an all time 1324 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: great Saint. Well has he done it in unremarkable fashion 1325 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: then to the average non Saints focused Yeah, you know 1326 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of m A r q u E s. 1327 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Marquise Coston outside with Dan on that one. This is 1328 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: probably his last season with the same. On the subject 1329 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 1: of names, got a ball, he's helling no touchdown. Oh, 1330 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: we didn't even remember Jay Mate quids in, I just 1331 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: wish man scavenger hunt coming up all over town. It's mega, man, 1332 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: it's mega. Oh yeah, we'll go to the Booze to celebrate. 1333 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Johnny come with no John You stay home, bro, stay home, mate, 1334 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Not good for you to come with Gary Gary quids 1335 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: in bondage. He's going out, man. I mean you leave 1336 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: us speechless with these, with these Gary Barnage narratives. Gary's 1337 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: just got such a good feel of the lexicon quids 1338 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: in Mate, got legless at the Booze, John Mazel, you 1339 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: don't come dangerous joint. I get a lot of tweets, 1340 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people, A lot of people like it. 1341 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: In the UK, some people find it offensive, which I 1342 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: find interesting. I don't find that shocking. I apologize to 1343 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: those to find a defensive I will never stop keeping 1344 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: a real over here. Yes you are finally, Todd Gurley 1345 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: slump is over all right. The rookie and for a 1346 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards, scored two touchdowns, both in the 1347 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: second half, and the Rams snapped a long losing streak 1348 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: five games with a win over the Lions on Sunday, Mark, 1349 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I assume the Lions remain in a vegetative state after 1350 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: what happened last Thursday night. It's hard to win with 1351 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: limited brain activity, I would think, yeah, I mean it's 1352 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: a fair comment. And you know, it's hard to comment 1353 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: on this game because it's two teams going nowhere this season. 1354 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: And if anything, maybe the hope most hopeful aspect was 1355 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: after Frank's Signetti was you know, as you said, turning 1356 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: his badge and his gun. The Rams offense a little 1357 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: bit more dynamic. I don't want to actually that's not 1358 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: the right word, but maybe a little bit less d o, 1359 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 1: A a little bit less of a corpse. This week. Well, 1360 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: they went over three hundred yards, but it was in 1361 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 1: the Jeff Fisher dream fashion. Two D and three on 1362 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: the ground. Hundred forty were from Todd Gurley who broke 1363 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,479 Speaker 1: it open, and that this is just what Jeff Fisher's dreamed. 1364 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: This is what he thought this team could be, which 1365 01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: is take a lead with the run and kind of 1366 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: just stipe for the other team. But it's a dreadful 1367 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: five and eight team. Um Frank Signetti, Yes, he turned 1368 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: in his badge and his gun, but as we hinted 1369 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: at last week, doesn't mean he's no longer fighting crime. 1370 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. Well, I think you're right. 1371 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: We don't even say another word about that or this game. 1372 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: That's it. Why don't we talk about a little Sunday 1373 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: night football action. The New England Patriots are going back 1374 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Greg, congratulations, seventh straight playoff birth. They 1375 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: moved into the a f c S Tops about the 1376 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 1: number one seed because everyone else that they needed to 1377 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 1: lose lost, and then they took care of business six 1378 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 1: a largely forgettable Sunday night game for Chris and Al 1379 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: and the team over at NBC, But doesn't matter to 1380 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Because he got what he wanted and a 1381 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: little banged up Greg Pats are a little banged up, 1382 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: but Brady connected with gronkind of touchdown. Gronk looked healthy. 1383 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: This team is, all of a sudden, after you know, 1384 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 1: some hand ringing over the last couple of weeks, exactly 1385 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: where they need to be. They are, and they have 1386 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: a defense that's playing exceptionally well. And you mentioned the injuries, 1387 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 1: which are a big concern, but I think the effective 1388 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: play of the defense is really my take away. First 1389 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: of all, just seeing Gronk back out there and looking 1390 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: like Gronk, even though he didn't play every snap, he 1391 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: looked good. That's a major plus. But this is the 1392 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 1: best defense I think they've had some two thousand four. 1393 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: I might have made that same statement last year. I 1394 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: think they're both true. This is a better defense that 1395 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: you can take all these injuries, and Jibaal Sheard chips 1396 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: steps up, and Dominick easily steps up, and then he 1397 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: gets hurt, and then Malcolm Brown and Malcolm Butler of 1398 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 1: course is playing well, and they just keep coming at 1399 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: you and waves in the front seven, and they're not 1400 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna shut down a great offense like a Steelers, for instance. 1401 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: But when they play some of these bad teams, they 1402 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: can actually have a shutdown type of game and that 1403 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: hasn't really been the case for the Patriots in a 1404 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: long time. And of course it must be said, and 1405 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: in addition to both the Bengals and Steelers losing J. J. 1406 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Watt busses Ham three days before this game, him was 1407 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: not effective. He had three tackles, no sacks, so he 1408 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: wasn't the same guy. But I will give credit, like 1409 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: you said, with the defense of the Patriots, which is 1410 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: very good. Uh DeAndre Hopkins. No one's been able to 1411 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 1: stop him all year. Three catchers or fifty two yards, 1412 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: and forty of those came in garbage time. So they 1413 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: were able to shut down the most explosive, explosive football 1414 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver in football this season and let the offense 1415 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 1: to the rest and they didn't have to do much well. 1416 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: This combination of Logan Ryan and Devin mccordy or whoever 1417 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: they want to put with Logan Ryan, Patrick Chung, they've 1418 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 1: been doing that each week, shutting down opposing number one receivers. 1419 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: That that puts Logan Ryan and the Pro Football Focus rankings, 1420 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: he's the top five cornerback, which doesn't seem right to me. 1421 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Part of the reason that is is because they put 1422 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: mccority behind him. Now, mccordy got hurt in this game easily. 1423 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Who's been playing while got hurt in this game? La 1424 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt, who is the only decent running back they 1425 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: have left of of what I think is probably their 1426 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: worst running games since about two thousand nine, two thousand eight. Uh, 1427 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: he got hurt in this game and left, So then 1428 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: you're just stuck with James White. They could have scored 1429 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,439 Speaker 1: more points in this game if they haven't running games. 1430 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Freeney gets hurt in this game. Who has had 1431 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: to start lately, So it's a lot of a lot 1432 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 1: of injuries piloting. Let's look at this what this game 1433 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 1: really was. It was New England's former offensive and defensive 1434 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: coordinator with Brian Hoyer the backup quarterback. At that's your 1435 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: team going up against the Master and Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. 1436 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,679 Speaker 1: There's nothing that Houston could do here that isn't already 1437 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: completely known to the New England in its show Tonight. Anybody, 1438 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: unless you're a Texans homer, anybody that picked against the 1439 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Patriots in this game, needs to get their head checked. Unfortunately, 1440 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: speaking of getting your head checked, Brian Hoyer suffered a 1441 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 1: possible concussion this game. T J. Yates was back in 1442 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: the game, uh near the end, So we'll see what 1443 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 1: that means for the Texans. And you know, they're now 1444 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: six and seven, which keeps them right, They're still in 1445 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: the mix. You get the Colts next week, so it 1446 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: could be t J. Yates versus Hasselbeck for the South 1447 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 1: title if Andrew Luck doesn't come back and Hoyer is out. 1448 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Can we just take all of the ACT and all 1449 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: of the NFCY East and have them playing like a 1450 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: really low stakes tournament of some kind. I love that, 1451 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: And then the rest of like the grown up teams 1452 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: at the adult table can play real give them their 1453 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: own soccer stuff like this. Can't we just they have 1454 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 1: like other turns they can relegate teams. I mean, the 1455 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Texans had seven first downs in this game. Seven first 1456 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 1: down That might be the least of any teams a year. 1457 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,719 Speaker 1: And we're two weeks away from talking about the Texans 1458 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: as this you know, you know, dominant defense that's coming together. 1459 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: It show goes to show you that there's only a 1460 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 1: couple of teams in the NFL that you can count 1461 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,599 Speaker 1: on week to week, and the Texans are not one 1462 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: of those teams at this point. Instead, they are vying 1463 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: for the title of the worst division in football. If 1464 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,480 Speaker 1: you're not the NFC's what a competition A sexy competition 1465 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: at any levels. I think Josh McDaniels had a really 1466 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: good game. I mean, this is a Patriots team that 1467 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 1: had been struggling a little bit on offense. It seemed 1468 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 1: like he just had the Texans number. Everything that he 1469 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: was calling was looking good. Now we're getting into the 1470 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: Greg you know, gushing. Yeah. Here here it comes coming 1471 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: into the room, floating a young cherub boy with angel wings. 1472 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:08,719 Speaker 1: Here's the harp the left latest, a big long bushel 1473 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: of grapes that Greg will have one grape after the 1474 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: next put into his mouth to be nourished. And it's 1475 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 1: grape season. All the timing is perfectly, Greg stuffing his 1476 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: face with great Sessler asked me like, oh, do you 1477 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: think you take, you know, too much grief for being 1478 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: a Patriots fate and this whole little bit that you 1479 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 1: guys do, it's all that's sane, is like your team 1480 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: is so amazing. The only thing we can come up 1481 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: with is to make fun of how good they are. 1482 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 1: That sounds like a compliment. Greg as likable as ever 1483 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 1: right now. I really enjoy the way you're taking that. Yes, 1484 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 1: we were jealous of what you have. I do get 1485 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: a lot of comments on the Jessel Nick podcast Rosenthal 1486 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: and Justin Nick Vanity Project, which you can subs that 1487 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 1: spot out to the end of the show. I do 1488 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,799 Speaker 1: get a lot of comments on Twitter, which is worrisome. 1489 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: You're much more likable in this podcast. I didn't really 1490 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: like you on the A t L. Guess that I'm 1491 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 1: not worried. I've gotten that many times. I like you 1492 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 1: way more now. You guys want to discuss a little word. 1493 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 1: That almost tempts me to check out that podcast. I 1494 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: haven't gotten around to it yet. If they could pull 1495 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 1: that off, it must be doing. Listen to them, and 1496 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that you guys, you get enjoyed each other's company, 1497 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: So maybe you find him more likable than the rest 1498 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: of the cast. Oh, Anthony is my best friend. He's 1499 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,760 Speaker 1: a superstar in the comedy world. We get along so well. 1500 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 1: I think it's because he knows about his college atmosphere, 1501 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,520 Speaker 1: and then everyone learns about what Greg did in College's 1502 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: point that might be way out of this. This clearly 1503 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 1: was not a great Sunday night football game, but it's 1504 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 1: better to keep it mysterious to the listeners. Brandon, Yeah, 1505 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: that that is a that is a podcast that exists. 1506 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 1: That that's my plug. That's all I need. It's on 1507 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: once a week, right, I don't need it from you. 1508 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: It's heavily edited. That's true. That's the way to prop 1509 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: up your boss. Dad. Yeah, how many stitchers, by the way, 1510 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the stitcher we don't we riches, you know on our 1511 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 1: mantel in East coast somewhere outside of Philadelphia. That's the 1512 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: last thing that one. Cessler. Yeah, where have you? Where 1513 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: were you on the awful announcing top ten list? Your podcast? 1514 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad that this podcast, the flagship program of NFL 1515 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: dot com and the podcast Empire, was on the lists. 1516 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,600 Speaker 1: A real quick favorite podcast at NFL dot com, My 1517 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 1: favorite podcast. Okay, that was a test. It was a 1518 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: test late night grilling if you will, Yes, all right, 1519 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 1: that is uh yeah, that's a Sunday night game and 1520 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 1: that is the recap of all the Sunday action. Uh. 1521 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: We will be back on Tuesday. I believe our good 1522 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 1: friend Connie fox Um will be with us as well 1523 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and we will recap the final game of 1524 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Week fourteen, which is Greg Giants Giants Stop. Oh, that's 1525 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 1: a good one, Cork, Jay Gruden or John Gruden. Uh 1526 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll look well look ahead to what because 1527 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 1: he's six and seven and in first place because he's 1528 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 1: with lousy teams like the Giants. Well that's very fair. 1529 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:15,640 Speaker 1: But until then, this is Dan Hanzels signing off for 1530 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: Quiet Storm the Boss branded Behind the Glass till Tuesday. Hey, 1531 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: what's up everybody? D J Bucky here from Move the Sticks, 1532 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Big Move the six episode for you to check out 1533 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 1: this week, Bucky, what do they have? We're gonna break 1534 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 1: down the positions and the way that you should rank 1535 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 1: him if you're building a franchise. We also take a 1536 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 1: look at some scouting notes and get some user feedback. Yeah, 1537 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 1: lots of lots of topics of cover. You can check 1538 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 1: that out Move the Sticks podcast and quick shout out 1539 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: to the boys from around the NFL. Congratulations on being 1540 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,760 Speaker 1: on that list of top podcast for the year. We 1541 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 1: give you guys a hard time, but we do love you, 1542 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: and congratulations of that Award Very cool,