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Speaker 1: more with the Great Kerry Champion on today's episode. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jerry got mad, Musty's chick story.

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Speaker 1: Driving spinning Katie number eight, Gene.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Secure the Celtics or NBA champions over the

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Speaker 2: what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Why is it sometimes Jabari? Why can't he just be

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Speaker 2: Hey, you are doing the Lord's work right from the start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't keep him off, you know, but uh, now,

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Speaker 1: Jabari is always here in spirit. He's always like dropping in.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, we you people hear his words every episode,

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Speaker 3: Heany You're welcome. You paid me to say that. Let

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Speaker 1: But how are you doing? It's so great to have you.

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Speaker 3: I know why you're thinking that, and that's a very

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Speaker 3: fair question to ask. In fact, it's a great question

434
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Speaker 3: to ask. I'm sure that there are people who feel

435
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: that way because someone's always hungrier, someone's always ready to

436
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 3: take it from you. Yeah, but experience in this league

437
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: is so invaluable. So I see everybody get ahead of

438
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 3: themselves and think they're at the head of the class,

439
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: and then they learn when they're playing with the big boys,

440
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, okay, this is a you just see it.

441
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 3: You see that, you see them change overnight. So I

442
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: don't know. I can't. I can't say that, but it's

443
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: not a bad question to ask, it's a fair question

444
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: to ask. I just can't say that with one hundred

445
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 3: percent confidence because I feel like the Lakers might still

446
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 3: try to have some tricks of their sleeves. I feel

447
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: like lebron Is has been able to do some things

448
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: behind the scenes that we don't know. I think that's

449
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: another reason why people get mad at him because he

450
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: has so much power, and right players that we've ever

451
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 3: seen in real time have his power displayed in real time,

452
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: like we haven't. That's that whole thing. I'm sure Jordan

453
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: was doing it, just in different ways, but we didn't

454
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: have social media and we weren't really aware of it.

455
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 3: It was just a special thing that we thought he was.

456
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Speaker 3: But I have never I've never seen the way somebody

457
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: can move the game pieces the way that Lebron does,

458
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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know.

459
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Speaker 1: By the way, like in the broad Sweep of History,

460
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: if like that was their last great hurrah, it was

461
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: like a really cool like it makes it like an

462
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: even cooler story. They're like, yeah, they just like pulled

463
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: it together and like won the gold medal, like despite

464
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: the fact that they were at a point in their

465
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Speaker 1: career that nobody wanted to admit at the time they

466
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: were and they were like, we're just going to defy

467
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: that and.

468
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Speaker 3: Say, no matter what, you can't you can't put anything.

469
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Speaker 3: After we just watched that, You're like, wait, so they

470
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: just did that. Can we actually say it's a wrap

471
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Speaker 3: for them because they surely don't believe it, Like the

472
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: Magic'll be like put on my small shorts, I can

473
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: still get.

474
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Speaker 2: Do you remember when Jordan when it was when they

475
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Speaker 2: were celebrating the seventy fifth and as soon as Magic

476
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: walked in the room, Jordan said, you right there, I

477
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: got to do you know, let's go one on on

478
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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, they never stopped thinking that.

479
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: Magic to this day says that that that they that

480
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors imitated the Lakers. They were built

481
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Speaker 3: off the showtime Lakers. He was like, I would still

482
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: take them. Now, let's see because we did it like

483
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: they I'm like, okay, listen, I'm I'm not mad. You

484
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: can't that they didn't do it. So yeah, no, I

485
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's a fair. That would

486
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: be great if that was their last who were off

487
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: and story when we write this, when we look back

488
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Speaker 3: on this, when the movie is done, when whatever thirty

489
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: for thirty is done and Lebron is sipping Lobos tequila

490
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: and telling his version of the story and they're like

491
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: to say that, He's like, sure, we.

492
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Speaker 1: Can't do you I'm sorry, do you not know that

493
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm Lebron James, Sure.

494
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Speaker 2: Did you see?

495
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: And then then the cigar of course, like emulating everything

496
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Speaker 3: Jordan did.

497
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: Still dressing like it was thirty years ago, wearing boot

498
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: cut jeans for some reason.

499
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Speaker 2: Boy, is that is that not in anymore?

500
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: No, they were just so high.

501
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, they were really high, were doing yeah

502
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: to shut I think, you know, to each of your

503
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: points to be like, you see what we saw in

504
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: the Olympics, And that's what that's what makes them so tempting.

505
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: That's what makes their teams think, I mean, can we

506
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Speaker 2: string it out over the course of eighty two just

507
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: to get them to the to the sixteen tournament? Because like,

508
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Speaker 2: if you're asking me, do I have faith in this

509
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: Lakers team over the course of eighty two versus do

510
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: I have faith in them over the course of sixteen,

511
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: it's a completely different answer. But they're not they're not

512
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: built for the long haul. But if you get you know,

513
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: if there's a sprint, hey, you know what, I'll take

514
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: my chances.

515
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Speaker 3: When Lebron at x X years old, when they went

516
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: to the Western Conference finals, I thought to myself, it

517
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: was horrid. It was horrid. But when they beat the

518
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 3: gold and says, I was like, oh, this is uh

519
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: like to see that to me? Uh And he still

520
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: wasn't at his best, but it was still something unbelievable.

521
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: It almost felt the Western Conference finals for me felt

522
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: like the NBA finals Like that felt like the finals

523
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: for me in terms of watching those two teams, how

524
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: great they were. Now he did what he could do.

525
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: He got jump, they got jump, they gotta beat down.

526
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Speaker 3: They met him in alley with bats. He couldn't do it.

527
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: He couldn't do You can only do what you can

528
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 3: do enough. But it was still to me, you know,

529
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Speaker 3: when we look back on it, I think we will say, no,

530
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: he really was chosen one. Like nobody else could really

531
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: pull that off. I could. And the way Steph is

532
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: and how what and Steth being a superstar and stuff

533
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: is so humble, so so amazing, it's like and he's

534
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: just like even but ready. So it makes it hard

535
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: for people not to think they can't be a superstar

536
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: and be like Steph, Like I think Steph could. I

537
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: really think Steph has some stuff left in a tank.

538
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: He really does, I hope.

539
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Speaker 1: So I agree. All right, how about the Grizzlies now

540
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: a two seed? This was a lot of people's sleeper

541
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Speaker 1: pick coming in to the season, got off to like

542
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: a not rocky start, but you know, they were like

543
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: a few games over five hundred, and then they've reeled

544
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: off a bunch in a row and just have had

545
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: a really nice run. Now, now the two seed Triple

546
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: J's averaging twenty two six two blocks, one point four steals,

547
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: shooting a career high fifty one point seven from the floor.

548
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Seven guys are averaging double figures, and another two are

549
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: just are like smart is at nine point six, Hut

550
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: at nine point four. So it's base like nine guys

551
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: averaging double figures, which like most people don't have like

552
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: a nine man rotation. Like that's that's wild.

553
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Well that's a difference from last year, right, because didn't

554
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: they have the least points last year? Didn't they average

555
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: the least points last year? I think they were. I

556
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: was reading that they were averaged that entire team had

557
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: like maybe one hundred and nine per game. I think

558
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: they they've turned it around. I don't That's what I

559
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: was reading an athletic earlier. Yeah, I've always liked the

560
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: Grizzlies sans Dylan and he sands now, but I've always

561
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 3: liked the Grizzlies. I've always thought they were special. I

562
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: always think that the regular season a twenty one games in,

563
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: and this is like twenty twenty one game that I

564
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: just I'm going to say, I'm excited about everything that

565
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: I'm seeing, but when it matters, it matters, right, we're

566
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: coming back. All Star breaks does have the same conversation

567
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: after All Star break, let's see where we are, Like,

568
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: that's when you know who came to play, because if

569
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: there are all sorts of things that happen, like I

570
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: think that they are going to do well. I think

571
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: Ja has a lot to prove. I think a lot

572
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: of media nonsense that he had to deal with and

573
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 3: answers and questions and whatever he was dealing with. He's quiet.

574
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's figured it out, but he's quiet,

575
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: and that's all that matters. And the attention is on

576
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: the court, and I feel like he's leading in a

577
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: way that is like we just killed a ball. He

578
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: said backwards dunk the other day. I do that all

579
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: the time.

580
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it.

581
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to talk about that backwards dunt.

582
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: First of all, he said last week he wasn't trying

583
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: to dunk as much anymore, okay, and then proceeded to

584
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: pull off one of my favorite dunks I've ever seen

585
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: him do. A lot of people were comparing it to

586
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Vince Carter. So he went up and then basically it

587
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: was a double pump. But the double pump is usually

588
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: a stylistic flourish, but he was doing it to literally

589
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: fake people out. Like again, it reminded me of the

590
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: I think I spent twenty minutes talking about that game

591
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: where he had those two reverse three sixty layups earlier

592
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: this season, and neither of them were like to be fancy.

593
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: It was he was moving his body in a way

594
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: to functionally like give himself the best chance of making

595
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: it like and that's what this feels like. He went up,

596
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: everybody jumped with him, and then he just like ducked

597
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: under them and dunked it over his head because he

598
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: can fly, I think, is what. Yeah. Yeah, And it

599
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: was on the Celtics, which makes me happy.

600
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: Makes you even more happy. He's he's sick. There is

601
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: that to watch him, but he's You're just like, wait,

602
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: how does that happen? Who does that? And the instinct,

603
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: his instinct I would be okay, So I'm going to

604
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: go to what I arguably the most athletic player that

605
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: we have in the league right now. Like they used

606
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: to say that about in football. They would say that

607
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: about Aaron Rodgers when he was in his heyday. He's

608
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: the most athletic quarterback you've ever seen, just the moves

609
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: that he does, just his instinct how he moves and

610
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: he turns. And I feel that same way about joh

611
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: like watching him and before Joah there was Russell. Russell

612
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: was so athletic, like he could just do stuff. I

613
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: remember Jordan here comes to my official brag telling me

614
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: at All Star we year at the Jordan party that

615
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: he would pay money out of his pocket to watch

616
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: for so Wilson, excuse me, Westbrook, I always do that.

617
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: Wesn He was like because he's so athletic, and that

618
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: was just one of the things that he was so

619
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: impressed by. His athleticism. John is unbelievable. That literally the

620
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: duck and then the go up and then it was

621
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: just like a light He really wasn't trying to dunk.

622
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: I agree with him. It's just like a just a

623
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 3: light littleish. It's something to do.

624
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: Dunking apparently hurts, Like that's what that's also from that

625
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: Netflix series. Anthony AMers was like, yeah, I don't like

626
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: to dunk. It hurts, but it's also like people, It

627
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: gets people up. It gets you guys excited, So I'll

628
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: keep doing it.

629
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can't say Vince. Vince is sick as

630
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: you will know, like Vince was. Remember he was posting

631
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: dunking at forty plus years old, still does every now

632
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: and again.

633
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that was funny. Vin. What was Vince saying

634
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: the other day? He came on the show, Vince Vince

635
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: is a friend, and yeah, yeah, we love Vince on

636
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: this show. All right. Dallas has one seven straight nine

637
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: out of ten. I don't know what it is about

638
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: me that I'm just like, never excited when Dallas is

639
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: doing well, no good reason. People of Dallas don't get

640
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: mad at me because I have no good reason. I

641
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: think it goes back to the Kennedy assassination. I just

642
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: don't like your city. But no, that's not fair. It's

643
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: also I don't get excited about Luca for no good reason.

644
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I just don't. But seventh straight nine of ten, Lucas

645
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: putting up twenty nine to eight and eight, Kyrie twenty

646
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: four to five and five. Kyrie is still one of

647
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: the most exciting people to watch with a basketball in

648
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: his hand. And then Clay has been like, you know,

649
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: he has his quiet nights here and there, but thirteen

650
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: and four, steady off the bench? Or is he is

651
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: he starting?

652
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: No, he's starting?

653
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, steady not off the bench. And then they're

654
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: fourth and offensive efficiency and eighth and defensive efficiency. So

655
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: they're they're just solid. They're going to be there.

656
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they are. They're solid. They're like, I'm

657
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: not that exciting. That is exactly how you feel about them.

658
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be surprised if they really put it

659
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: all together and made it to really became like last

660
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: man standing, Like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that.

661
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: That wouldn't surprise me. I think just because like the

662
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: history of that team, they know how to do it.

663
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: Luca probably doesn't excite you. He gets it done. Okay

664
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: and Joke remind me of each other, but Jokich more so.

665
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to switch topics. But the way they

666
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: play the game is very different from how I grew

667
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: up watching the gameplay, so it takes a little bit

668
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: of that lesser away and the excitement. So that is

669
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: probably why it feels very demure. It feels very laid back.

670
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, your is in this season. It's like the websterere

671
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: word at the year. Maybe we should be happy that

672
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: they play so demurely. Yeah. I also, you know what,

673
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm also you know, as a as somebody who roots

674
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: against the Celtics more than I root for any team.

675
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm also I think I have like it in my

676
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: memory that they just like didn't look like the head

677
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: of realistic shot against the Celtics. So I don't want

678
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: them to be who the Celtics face in the finals

679
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: necessarily because I don't feel like they've changed enough to

680
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: provide a serious challenge. But I could be wrong. Maybe

681
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's just another year.

682
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm I'm inherently the Celtics. So we get

683
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: bashed Boston all day on this podcast.

684
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: I love that. That's what we do here.

685
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: That's the alternative name for the show.

686
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: Yes. Also yeah, so I just and I will say this,

687
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: I wouldn't when they and they'll probably go and win it.

688
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: It's hard to create a dynasty. It's hard to win.

689
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: Back to back. It's hard to win back to back

690
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: to back like what we have seen the Celtics do

691
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: and yesteryear, the Lakers, or even the Warriors for that matter.

692
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: It's just not common. I just don't. I don't. I'm not.

693
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm not a believer yet so a hater. So you

694
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: take that for you want to take it.

695
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

696
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: It's fair.

697
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the Calves have the best chance of

698
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: knocking them off is just like not even letting them get.

699
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: To the That's that's right. I mean, look, the Sixers,

700
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: what do we are?

701
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Really good? H So I don't know if you saw,

702
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: but they, uh they're five and five and I am

703
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: bragging they're five and five are the last time and

704
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm bragging about that. I don't know. I could see

705
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: them like start putting some wins together now that em

706
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: beat his back and you know he put up thirty

707
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: one last night. It's again, it's been like the same

708
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: way that I was saying Orlando, I check, and it's

709
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: like they won again like that. That is not what

710
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: I expected, like given who is healthy, like they they

711
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: keep winning the Sixers the exact opposite. I'm just like

712
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: again to the Pistons, like you know, like it's.

713
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: It's okay, this is it enough?

714
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? But I mean they've they've had a couple

715
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: of wins to some teams that they should have beat,

716
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: and it does feel like they'll eventually start playing better,

717
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: like all their individual parts have had good games at

718
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: this point. They just need to. And I would be

719
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: surprised if Nick Nurse just like suddenly was a bad coach, like, uh,

720
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he had a great playoffs

721
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: last year. But like I I think they'll be probably

722
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: all right, and they'll be in the mix at not

723
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: like for the top of the East, but I think

724
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: they'll probably I think they'll be in the mix.

725
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't know because I was I was trusting, so

726
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: I don't know I could. That is an enigma that

727
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: team in itself. Yet again I'm waiting for the deep,

728
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: deep secret story to be told, like in itself, like

729
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: it's you're like, wait, what happened? There was this meme

730
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: going around and I'm sorry because I'm going to say it.

731
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: There was this meme going around. It was a picture

732
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: of Joel Embiid and it said, if we get in

733
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: an argument and I send you this it means I'm

734
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: not getting involved.

735
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: That's about right. I'm that is about.

736
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: Right crying and I was just like, I'm not getting

737
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: involved at all, and it was so accurate, but I

738
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: was I don't know what's going on. I have no concept,

739
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: and I don't know why there's always so much going

740
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: on out off the court. I just it just seems

741
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: fascinating to me. And I'm like, why do we should

742
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: know this? This is too much for me to know.

743
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: It's not my business.

744
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, speaking of crying, let's take a quick break.

745
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that, and then we're going to

746
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: come back and finish out by talking about Jokic and

747
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: picking a game of the week and doing the rapid

748
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: fire round of question and we'll be right. And we're

749
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: back and I'm actually kind of dehydrated. I just cried

750
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: so hard. I was usually like, yeah, I feel like

751
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: I just ran five miles.

752
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: Like that's who I hate when it happens.

753
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: It was good though, It feels good, you know. Just

754
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: need to replenish, need some gatorade. All right, we want

755
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: to talk about Jokic. The team not as good as

756
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: years past, he is maybe better than years past. After

757
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: winning three or four MVP awards. He recently dropped forty eight,

758
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: fourteen and eight assists on the Hawks. Let me just

759
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: go through. He is averaging thirty two point three points,

760
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: career high, second in the league, thirteen point six rebounds

761
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: second best of his career, first in the league, ten

762
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: point two assists career high, second in the league, and

763
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: shooting fifty percent from three with four point four attempts,

764
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: which are both career highs. This is.

765
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: What that's a great question. This is what?

766
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: What? Like, he's almost he's almost leading the league in scoring,

767
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: and then he's like, was last time we had somebody

768
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: to lead the league in all three categories?

769
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Has anybody will did?

770
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: They will lead the league and assists one of the

771
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: seasons he.

772
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: Definitely led the league in assists one season. But I

773
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: don't know if he also like as a bit right,

774
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: let's see, he was like this would be funny, right,

775
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: basically yeah, he basically said like, Okay, I'll do it.

776
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Let's just assume it hasn't been done. And for somebody

777
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: to be doing it at a time when there's more

778
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: talent in the league, there's more better players in the

779
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: league than we've ever seen, is just completely unfathomable. So

780
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: we were talking about this and then Jabbari said, they'll

781
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: be there in the end. They'll be like a top

782
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: three in the West by the end of the year. Sure,

783
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: I don't think that.

784
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: Oh what do you think.

785
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be like six through ten

786
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: in the West level. I don't think they have enough,

787
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: even with him playing this out of his mind. Like

788
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: remember how they were a few years back when like

789
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray was injured all the time like that. That's

790
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of how they feel again to me, Like, I

791
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: feel like that's where they're gonna end up again.

792
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: I like to preface every statement before I because I

793
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: speak with a little bit of bitterness. The way they

794
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: beat down my leg. You're so bad.

795
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody liked that. Nobody liked that.

796
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: I want to say, I agree with you. But there's

797
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: something about and I don't know if it's contagious, but

798
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: we'll see. It is so hard, got it so hard

799
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: so early to make predictions. But the way he plays basketball,

800
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: to me, it's a job. He plays it, of course,

801
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: it's a job. What do you mean, Carrie. He plays

802
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: like he is painting a house, Like I have to

803
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: the house must be painted by the end of the day,

804
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: and it has to get done otherwise I won't get paid.

805
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: And for him to be leading in all of those

806
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: categories is just that everyday blue collar worker mentality of

807
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: this is what I have to do to get this win.

808
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: This is what I have to do because this is

809
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: my job. And there's something so very admirable about that.

810
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: Remember when he was like, there's a parade, I got

811
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 3: to get back home.

812
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: He's so like his whole body like saying like serious.

813
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: He saw his shoulders drop when they told him he

814
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: had to be at the championship parade.

815
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: Anything like talking to like one of the coaches or

816
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: somebody's like when when is it serious? But we just

817
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: did it. We won, we did we did it, we celebrated,

818
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 3: we had the champagne. So I almost feel like that's

819
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: a little contagious and people can't can't help but respect that,

820
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: especially when he gets down to time to get down

821
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: to it.

822
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: But we'll see, yeah, yeah, that's fair. I don't think

823
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: he's gone anywhere. I just I don't know that the

824
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: team is yeah.

825
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: You hear to say that or the other day. I

826
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: don't know if it was today or the other day

827
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: he said, he said, where I come from, when you

828
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: don't play well, your patient looks the same. Yeah, let's

829
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: just start doing that. Could you imagine players not getting

830
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: that same check that they're used to getting if they

831
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: don't play well the anarchy? That what happened, But it

832
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: might work. Who knows they need to Maybe they need

833
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: to make some new rules. I don't know.

834
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 2: I think Boumani had the best response to that with

835
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: he just quotes we did and said, this is America, Jack,

836
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: We're not doing that. We're not going for that over here.

837
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: We don't do that here. What we are spoiled and privileged?

838
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: What do you say?

839
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: What happening? But quickly on that I was mentioning I

840
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: was talking about it with Jack before the show, and

841
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: I said, there just feels to be like an inevitability

842
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: about him where and that I think that lends himself

843
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: to the point that you just made where it may

844
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: not look flashy, it may not be as esthetically pleasing

845
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 2: as other players, but he's gonna get the job done.

846
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, you just feel like no, at

847
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 2: the end, he's gonna finish.

848
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: That's it and and so and that's what it's gonna

849
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: be and if you like it, you like it, and if

850
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: you don't, you don't like Sorry, what else to tell you?

851
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: It's like being chased by Michael Myers and a Halloween movie.

852
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: I am going to get you, are not going to

853
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: or I'm still going to survive even if I don't

854
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: get you. I trust me. It's going to be a

855
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: part four, five, six, and seven. But we'll see. I mean, gosh,

856
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: so early, so.

857
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: Early, all right, Uh, I think it's time for the

858
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: rabbit Fire Round of questioning. Carry this is the fastest

859
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: segment in podcasting. We're gonna ask you a series of questions.

860
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: You're just gonna give us the first thought that crosses

861
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: your mind. Sometimes I'm known to dawdle, dilly and dally

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Speaker 1: a bit, and you just have to ignore that and

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Speaker 1: you know, push through as as we ask you these questions. Brian, Brian,

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Speaker 1: would you start the clock?

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Speaker 2: Please wait a second? Or why are we breaking tradition here?

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Speaker 3: Brian start the clock. That's the tradition that we're breaking.

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Speaker 1: I have to yell at Brian to get the rabbit

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Speaker 1: Fire round question. Oh, thank you, Brian, I love you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jabari, I want you to start I got you.

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Speaker 2: So it's almost as though Carrie, you had a look

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Speaker 2: at our doc uh briar to just about ten minutes

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Speaker 2: ago you basically asked this question. So I will ask

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Speaker 2: you now solely as an athlete and dunker. Pick one

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Speaker 2: Jah Prime Russ. You know, just those suit Jah or

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Speaker 2: Prime Russ, Oh, Crime Russ. Okay, wow, okay, there was there.

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Speaker 2: There was a there was a force there that you

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Speaker 2: just didn't see from a six to three guy.

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Speaker 3: And it was a story. Each didn't have a story.

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00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: It was there was so much more behind us because

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00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: he never talked, y'all. Remember he didn't say anything. He

881
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: was just like he had to do. The only time

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00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: we heard from when he was dunking and when he

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Speaker 3: was being interviewed, it was just like yeah, no, okay,

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00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm like this and let him dunk

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00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: then let it. So I was like, so I wanted

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Speaker 3: to see I didn't need you to end in the dancing.

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Speaker 3: So he needs two versions and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go prime Rus. I just have to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He was basically, hey, look I dunked for you,

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Speaker 2: I dance for you. What more do you want?

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Speaker 3: What more do you need.

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Speaker 1: Exactly the amount of energy that was expended, like just

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Speaker 1: on one trip up the court with him, was like

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Speaker 1: like I feel like that was the highest amount of

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Speaker 1: energy expended and he just had it, you know, he

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Speaker 1: had it to go like he could do that. But

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Speaker 1: I understand why he was not. He did not have

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Speaker 1: energy for people's bad questions at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: All right, you can recommend one burger spot from La

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Speaker 1: to someone who's in town for a Lakers game. We

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Speaker 1: go on in and out, we go on, fat Burger,

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00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: we go on Tommy's what are we thinking, Michael, fatburger,

903
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: fat Burger. I need to start with fatburger. Michelberger, absolutely due,

904
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Speaker 1: what's the order of Fetberger?

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Speaker 3: I would just get the original, But if you're watching

906
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: your way, you can get the original skinny and it's

907
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: not as bad. But the reason why because there is

908
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: something about just straight up some relish, some secret sauce, separate,

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00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: not together, right because they mixed them together. Separate down together, mustard, ketchup, mail, pickles, onions,

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00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 3: what all of it? Give it all?

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00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: I need a fat burger. I'm I'm see the trouble

912
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Speaker 2: is I'm stuck here in Tucson about ninety nine miles

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Speaker 2: from one right now, So yeah, here we are.

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Speaker 1: It's just like you shared a terminal diagnosis with Carrie

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Speaker 1: Oh noon. Oh sorry, all love to the great city

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Speaker 1: of Tucson.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, of course all of you can't get

918
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Speaker 3: to Fatburger that was Maybe should build one.

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00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Here we are, okay, Hey, they got them in Mexico,

920
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm told by Brian the editor, and you can eat.

921
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: I get crazy, but you did add chili to it.

922
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: If that's her thing, you can get real slappy with it,

923
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: like it just really is a hallmark. I love some

924
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: in and out, in and out as quick as trendy

925
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: lines are long, everybody. Don't get me wrong. Love love

926
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: love loves in and out. But you want old school representation,

927
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: you need you need a fat.

928
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Speaker 2: Burg there it is all right, one more for you.

929
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: Your team as a final possession is down too in

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00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: a Game seven of the finals, for which player from

931
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: throughout your franchise history do you want with the ball

932
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: in his hands?

933
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Speaker 3: You know I'm gonna say something and I'll probably regret it. Oh,

934
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: there were moments, there's key moments that I will I

935
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Speaker 3: shall never forget, and I'm not gonna say magic. I'm

936
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: not gonna say Kobe, not even gonna say Kaream. But

937
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: when we needed a three, Derek Fisher there.

938
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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what.

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00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: Wow.

940
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: I did not expect that answer.

941
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: And I know he's a controversial set on the plate,

942
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: but for some not for me, d Use to get

943
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: it done like he was. He was always clutch. Always

944
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: we needed three, and he was there. We're down to three,

945
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: game winner two.

946
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Thousand and nine Finals against some magic you know, in

947
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: that comeback at the end of that, I think it

948
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: was game four who knocked down the big three. That

949
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Speaker 2: was d Fish.

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00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Thank shot Bob too. But I'm gonna go with you

951
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Speaker 3: friend of show.

952
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, my good friend Robert Dorry. All right, sorry, we're

953
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: just double. We're just getting the score in from the judges.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that was one. You got every single one

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00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: of those right, Those were the correct answers. Carrie Champion,

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00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining Miles and Jack and

957
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: sometimes Jabari got mat Boosti's where can people find you?

958
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff.

959
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: Carrie Champion. My name on Instagram, not so much on

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00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: Twitter anymore threads. You can also follow me on YouTube.

961
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: Got a YouTube channel. It's all good. I put all

962
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: my stuff up and follow me Instagram. I give you everything,

963
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: all the things and my podcast. Of course, of course

964
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: you gotta listen to it. So go to iHeart and

965
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: listen where you get all your favorite podcasts and I'm there.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a really good one art basel athlete podcast with

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00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: some athletes were that are into art. Now you know

969
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: the world's intersect. So it's good.

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Speaker 1: All right, well amazing, Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you give us a follow on Twitter. I'm

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Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien and Jack ob One on Blue Sky,

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Speaker 1: Miles of zat Miles of Gray on both and Jabari

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Speaker 1: where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: Jabari A. Davis on Twitter? It is still Twitter forever

976
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: going down with the ship. But also Blue Sky is

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Speaker 2: where I do most of my actions now, so Jabari

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Speaker 2: Davis ndia.

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Speaker 1: You can also follow hashtag mat Boosties for show links updates.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to join the conversation on our discord, which

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00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: you can also find the link for when you search

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Speaker 1: hashtag Matt Boosties. And that is another one in the books.

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Speaker 1: We did episode what was this jar? Episode episode three?

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Speaker 1: They said we wouldn't make it and we really did

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Speaker 1: it swish from Way Downtown. We'll be back next week

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Speaker 1: with more Matt boosties. Woul kill them by five