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Speaker 1: Colin Coward Podcast. A very eventful week. I talk about

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Speaker 1: one of the craziest travel experiences, in fact, the craziest

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Speaker 1: why it gets complicated. Marcus Thompson of The Athletic on

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Speaker 1: his instant reaction to Game four, the series now tied

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Speaker 1: it to a piece and why the Sons could have

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Speaker 1: daughter about six months ago said Dad, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time off this summer. I'm taking the

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Speaker 1: I Jackson's my son. He's fifteen, Olivia's twenty, And they said,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Hole Wyoming. It's a ski town, very nice, beautiful state,

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Speaker 1: sparsely populated. Biggest town near Jackson Hole, Wyoming is Jackson, Wyoming,

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Speaker 1: and it's tiny, kind of a cowboy town. Fun though,

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Speaker 1: So we booked the flight and we have an amazing time.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you ever go to Jackson Hole, Wyoming,

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Speaker 1: the hotel I stayed at had an astronomer, the only

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Speaker 1: was Ryan Hennessy. Look him up, astronomer in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: We go up the mountain at ten o'clock at night

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Speaker 1: the flight's supposed to leave it too, which is in

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Speaker 1: not an elitist. So then they board us about two hours,

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Speaker 1: And after being on the plane about twenty minutes, the

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Speaker 1: from me, mister regular guy. I'm like, whatever, look at

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Speaker 1: my kids. That's life. It's not the first time we

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Speaker 1: inside information on the aviation industry when you get cross

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Speaker 1: we're on the plane for about a half hour. Not

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Speaker 1: Great night's sleep, great people. We're all drained, wet, gross.

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Speaker 1: guy like that. Let's bring in John Middlecoff, former NFL scout.

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Speaker 1: He is the host of the Three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are going to Um, I'm not gonna I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to give it away, but we're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: big news with John Middlecoff soon. I'm gonna leave it

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Speaker 1: at that. You know, in terms of going into predictions.

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Speaker 1: The other thing, I'll throw this out to you because

429
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Speaker 1: of your Bay Area knowledge. I had the Raiders at

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Speaker 1: seven and ten and there was there was two sticking

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Speaker 1: points for me. One, I think they have for the

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Speaker 1: last three years reached in the draft. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're very good at it. Secondly, I think their offensive

434
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Speaker 1: line now is becoming more dependent on Richie Incognito in

435
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Speaker 1: his late thirties. Trent Brown is gone, Gabe Jackson's gone,

436
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Speaker 1: and the other thing is, I think it's not a

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Speaker 1: line of bullshit, but I think I think Gruden's kind

438
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Speaker 1: of highly energized, highly optimistic worldview. I think some players

439
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: are going to start tuning him out. Where do you

440
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: see the Raiders this year? Yeah, I think the AFC

441
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: is loaded first and foremost. You know, it took eleven

442
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: wins to get in the playoffs last year. The Raiders

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00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: who actually at one point in time, I think we're

444
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: six and three and it looked like they had a chance.

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Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs last year by three games three.

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Speaker 1: That's a large margin. And they have the Chiefs in

447
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: their division, which they actually played pretty well, but I

448
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: mean the Chiefs were way better. And then if the

449
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: Chargers coach is just solid, there's more talent there. I

450
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: also think, like you said, they could take a little

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Speaker 1: bit of step back on offense because their offensive line

452
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Speaker 1: and their defense. They're drafting that they're Mike Mayock. We

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Speaker 1: followed his career for a decade plus or whatever on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network, and he always had these He had Khalil

455
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: Mack over Clowney. He was like always like football guys

456
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: swore by him. Yeah, and then he gets with Gruden,

457
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: and now he's taken. If he would have had in

458
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Speaker 1: his ranking some of the guys he took, it would

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Speaker 1: have been the biggest story for you, guys like me

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00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: and you in March, right, we've been talking about what

461
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: this doesn't make any sense. He has this player and

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Speaker 1: then it's Cruden. I mean, that's what happens when you

463
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Speaker 1: give a guy one hundred million dollars. He's a terrible

464
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Speaker 1: personnel guy. I think it's proven. He's pretty good on offense,

465
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: he knows nothing about defense. He took a decade away

466
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: his hand Pickuy had a fire mid season last year.

467
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: He brings in Gus Bradley. So now they're pivoting on

468
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Speaker 1: players that they already had invested in the last several years,

469
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Speaker 1: who weren't that good anyway. But you've invested high picks

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Speaker 1: in these guys, so they're kind of spending a neutral.

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Speaker 1: When the AFC Cleveland got their act together, now Baltimore's

472
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Speaker 1: a powerhouse. The Chargers might have a star quarterback, the

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Speaker 1: culture rolling right. The AFC East could be really good.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are good, the Dolphins are good. If the

475
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Speaker 1: Patriots just kind of gets solid, it's just going to

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Speaker 1: be very, very difficult for them, and they do. The

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Speaker 1: crazy part is if we were like, wow, they just

478
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Speaker 1: haven't figured out the quarterback. Their quarterback has actually been

479
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Speaker 1: pretty solid. Yeah, you know, who can't when you have

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Speaker 1: a solid quarterback. If your coach is making ten million dollars,

481
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: you should be. If they missed the playoffs, you're four

482
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Speaker 1: miss I mean that's pretty nuts. John, it's been you

483
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: nailed it. I mean you said you don't take that

484
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: long away and come back in an industry like this,

485
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: and it clearly yeah, it can't be done. I mean

486
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: the two industries that we talk about a lot, technology

487
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: and the NFL. I think they're really hard into strees

488
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: to leave and then for ten years and come back.

489
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: They're very fluid, fast changing, often pivoting industries. And you

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Speaker 1: know something else about Gruden and I like John, but

491
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: you know Chris Ballard. I'm a friend of Chris Ballard

492
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: and Tom tallesco the Chargers JAM and the Colts GAM

493
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Speaker 1: and they both have the same personality. They're stoic, they're

494
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Speaker 1: very bottom line, they're not emotional. I think when you

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Speaker 1: get into personnel, John, and you're a former NFL scout,

496
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Speaker 1: you really there is value and not being highly emotional.

497
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: You cannot fall in love with players. You can fall

498
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: in love with traits, you can't fall in love with players.

499
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Speaker 1: John falls in love with players well then falls out

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Speaker 1: of love right really fast. And I think that the

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00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: way you describe those two guys. And I know Andy

502
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: has Veach now, but Andy's a lot like that too,

503
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and I think Veach has kind of taken on that personality.

504
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: With the Chiefs. They are you know, if the guy's

505
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: not working out, they'll pivot, but they don't get tied

506
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Speaker 1: to a guy that they have to have. They can

507
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: move or Gruden, I have to have this guy, well, John,

508
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: instead of taking him at seventeen, you can get this

509
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: guy in the middle of the second round. To me,

510
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: the draft is one big market place. It's not just

511
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: knowing like how good the player is. You have to

512
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: know what his price is going to be. You know,

513
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: you wouldn't pay five million dollars for a million dollar home.

514
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: And that's where the best general managers know, the Ballards,

515
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: the Beaches, the John Schneiders know that they can trade

516
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: back and get a guy. That's why everyone freaks out.

517
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: It's not that these guys are terrible players, but you

518
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: didn't need to take them there. You could have taken

519
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: them two rounds later and taken another guy and still

520
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: got the player. And then if that guy doesn't become good,

521
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: you're kicking yourself. And it's happened to them now countless times.

522
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: The guys they pass on because of the guy they

523
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: have to have, because of course, John, I gotta have

524
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: this guy. And then two years later, when he can't play,

525
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: he's freaking out and firing people. So I bring on

526
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: my friend, Marcus Thompson, the athletic. So my opening takeaway, Marcus,

527
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Chris Paul when well rested looks just absolutely fantastic. But

528
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Chris Paul later in a series when he doesn't have

529
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: big rest, I thought Chris looked so tired and so

530
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: worn out tonight. And I thought to myself, if I'm Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching that game thinking I'm not just signing Chris

532
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Speaker 1: Paul to a three year deal. What did you make

533
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: of Chris Paul's performance. Let's start with that, it's Russ.

534
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Speaker 1: It's just you know, that's fifteen turnovers in three games.

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Speaker 1: This is very un Chris Paul. Like I do think

536
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: he looks thirty six years old. I do think we're

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00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: seeing Chris Paul, you know, some of the issues we've

538
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: had seeing him sustain for a long series. I mean,

539
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: this might be three more games, right, he might have

540
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: to knuckle it up for three more games. He's got

541
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to play better, he's got to bounce back. He's doing

542
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: pretty good a kind of orchestrating things. He's still the

543
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: concert him at floor in general. The problem is they're

544
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: set up for him to be more than that. He

545
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: can't be out there just okay, here you go, book,

546
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: here you go eight, and you kind of need Chris

547
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: Paul to get you twenty five, right, So I think

548
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: it's surprising to see him turn the ball over like this,

549
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: But also they got to figure out a counter because

550
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what Mike Budenholzer was doing game one,

551
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: but game two he said, hey, Drew, I want you

552
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Speaker 1: and Chris Paul, and I want you to just harass

553
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: him and I want you to stay with him. And

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00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: it's been a problem for Chris Paul. It's been a

555
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: big problem. And if they don't figure that out, they

556
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: this could go down as the latest and a list

557
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: of disappointing ends for Chris Paul. Well. On Holiday's thirty

558
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: pounds heavier. I mean, Drew didn't shoot the ball particularly well.

559
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny, like they need Middleton to

560
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: be a shot maker. They need Honest to give him thirty.

561
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: They don't need Drew Holiday. I mean, they've got some depth,

562
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: they got an eight man rotation. They don't need Holiday

563
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: to be a great offensive player. I thought tonight, I

564
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: thought he kind of pushed Chris around, forced him off,

565
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, forced him to the side he's not comfortable with.

566
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: And I sat there and I watched Drew Holliday, and

567
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need his points. Tonight. I thought

568
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was a huge factor on

569
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: the defensive end. You know, he's a funny player that

570
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: we've if you've watched, if you watched the league like

571
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: we do, he's a very very good player. He just

572
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: hasn't you know, he doesn't get on TV a lot.

573
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: This is a high profile series for him. Now people

574
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: are pushing back going. You know, everybody tells me that

575
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: Drew Holiday is underrated. Now he's overrated, because I hear

576
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: how often he's underrated. But I thought tonight you could

577
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: make an argument tonight he was as valuable as anybody

578
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: on the floor except Chris Middleton. But I'm still on

579
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: the Drew Holidays underrated bandwagon. Don't don't kick me off yet.

580
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm still with it. I'm still feeling like I'm still

581
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: feeling like Drew, Like we gotta respect Drew's name and

582
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: his game because look, I mean, I'm being a little

583
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: facetious here, but yeah, Drew Drew has stunk it up

584
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: on offense more than you thought. You know, yeah, you

585
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: know some people are calling him Drew Bledsoe, right, like,

586
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: but man, it's hard. It's hard to do what he's doing.

587
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: It's hard to like, this is Chris Paul we're talking about.

588
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: This isn't Patrick Beverley, right, This isn't like you know,

589
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: Monte Morris, right, this is Chris Paul. This is one

590
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: of the all time greats, and his assignment is to

591
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: make his life miserable and make him less than the

592
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: player he was. So you just you just need this, right,

593
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: you need him to do that. And he's done it

594
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant, like, he's done it, like you pick

595
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: the player right the series, He's done it. So I

596
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: think it's actually incredible, and they do need his offense.

597
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: But if they could get something from pat Cottonton and

598
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: brook Lopez, that's right, that's right, right, Like, but if

599
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: pat Cottonton is airball and threes, then you kind of

600
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: need Drew. I feel like if Drew's hidden shots, you

601
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: can't beat Milwaukee, right, but it Drew and Middleton or

602
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: hidden shots with Yanni's being y honest, you're not beating Milwaukee.

603
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: But the reason you could beat Milwaukee is because those

604
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: dudes all three of the shots all the time. Right.

605
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, the job he's doing on Chris Paul, you

606
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: know what it reminds me of, you know what, Collin

607
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know how this is gonna shake out

608
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: in finals MVP. I don't think we're gonna put Drew

609
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: and there, but this reminds me of Lebron being guarded

610
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: by Igodollar twenty fifteen. And he didn't stop Lebron, but

611
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: he just made his life so difficult that over time

612
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: it had this cumulative effect. Right. Yes, And obviously Chris

613
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Paul is not putting up the numbers that Lebron was

614
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: putting them back then, Like it's you know, you look

615
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: at some of those Bron numbers is like forty point

616
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: triple doubles, and it's like, how we praising the igodollar?

617
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: You know, but he got his percentage down. He made

618
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: him work and by the end of the series, Brin

619
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: was looking around at Matthew Della Withdova and then I'm like, yo,

620
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: can I can I get some kind of help? I

621
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: feel like Drew is that figure on this team where

622
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: he's like, look, I'm just gonna take the best well

623
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: the head of the snake, and I'm going to make

624
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: this dude not once to be here right like, I'm

625
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna make it miserable. And that for me, that's a

626
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: pretty significant seat at this level. So you know, I

627
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: still like Phoenix to win this series. It feels like

628
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: I picked Phoenix in six. I'll pick them in seven.

629
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Speaker 1: They finished the season and the series at home. I

630
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: do think, you know, they prefer an up tempo and

631
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: they're not getting it as often as they'd like. Booker

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Speaker 1: was phenomenal tonight. I mean, the call at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game we can argue about, but you know,

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Speaker 1: come on, it's the intensity in the last six to

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00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: eight minutes of that game. We just got to get

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00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: over it. That's the reality of it, you're gonna, stars

637
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: are gonna they don't. Referees don't want to foul out stars.

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00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that was my take off. So we get

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00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: swallow it, right, like if you got run a pandemonium

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Speaker 1: in the streets. But I do look at Phoenix, and

641
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: here's the upside. Chris Paul was a complete non factor.

642
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: In fact, was fairly miserable, and that game came down

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Speaker 1: to the last minute and a half. Like I think,

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00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: if I walk out of here, you know, if I

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00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: walk out of here and I'm Phoenix and two of

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00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: the next three at home, I still like Phoenix. Your thoughts,

647
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, like these aren't I mean Game three,

648
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, Milwaukee ran away, but you know this was

649
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: a survival right here, Like that's right. A couple plays

650
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: go a different different way. You know, Jannis didn't get

651
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: that block right, Like you're talking about some different So

652
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they're out of the woods. All they

653
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: did was hold served. They have to win in Phoenix.

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00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna do that. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: They gotta win in Phoenix. Phoenix is incredible at home

656
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: because in Phoenix, like but kill Bridges becomes an All

657
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: Star Yeah, right, like like Cam Johnson never misses, right,

658
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with Jake like in Phoenix. These dudes

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: are nuts that they're so high out saying they play

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00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: at the pace you were talking about. Well, Marcus, they're

661
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: so young. Young teams play great at home. But but

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00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: look college, this is what this is where if I'm

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, I have some hope. These dudes have never

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00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: felt this before, this pressure they're about to feel for

665
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: the next two days before a game. They've never been

666
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: in a game five in the finals with everything on

667
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: the line. They've never done that. Remember that? Remember that?

668
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Remember the Clippers close out game at home and they stunk,

669
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: was so tight. I'm just I'm just like, we don't

670
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: know how they will respond, right, Uh. You figure Chris

671
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: Paul will bounce back. The dude is too good. Book

672
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be booked, right, we know he's gonna be

673
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: um Aiden has been one of the most consistent players.

674
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: It comes down to Michael Bridge. Well, it comes out

675
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: of Chris Paul not looking like he looks at night, Right,

676
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: But do you throw in it's the Michael Bridges, It's

677
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: the Cam Johnson, Right, it's there. It's the campaigns. Phoenix

678
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: has this like conveyor belt of really good role players.

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00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I wonder how they are feeling right now? How are

680
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: those shots now that this series two two and this

681
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: game five and it's time, right? I mean, how will

682
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: Yann's spare at the free throw line? Right like now? Now?

683
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: We got a series Colin that was about to go down,

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00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: And if I'm Milwaukee, I'm saying I don't. I don't

685
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: know if these dudes are cut like that. They haven't

686
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: been through this. Uh they are. They aren't even supposed

687
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: to be here yet, right, They've got to skip the step,

688
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: So maybe they aren't ready, but I wouldn't put money

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00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: on it, because Phoenix is really good at home. That

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Speaker 1: wraps it up for the week. We're heading into another

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