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Speaker 2: a week off, last week off, Jason Frankly, Probably at

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Speaker 2: least through football, maybe March madness and beyond. I do

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Speaker 2: it every time. I already know the answer. How to

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Speaker 2: go with Arnie Spanner last week?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, so it could have been worse.

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Speaker 2: He didn't force you into retirement quitting.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, Arnie is a unique animal. He sure,

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Speaker 1: he really really is. And I will say this like

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Speaker 1: it can be a challenge because you don't know where

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Speaker 1: he's going to go next. You don't know where his

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Speaker 1: take is going to be. Absolutely, but you also look

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Speaker 1: up a lot of the time you realize four hours

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Speaker 1: pass is pretty quickly working with him, Like that's one

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Speaker 1: thing I noticed last week. It's like also show was

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Speaker 1: over and four hours can sometimes feel like a dragon

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Speaker 1: doesn't when I'm doing it with you. But it I've

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Speaker 1: done a lot of radio and there have been times

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Speaker 1: where it feels like it's really long work with Arnie.

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Speaker 1: Like I just looked up when we were done. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a bad feeling to have in

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Speaker 1: this business to just kind of we just went through

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Speaker 1: four hours of radio and we talked a bunch of stuff,

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Speaker 1: and now we're finished, and you know, I'm walking away

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Speaker 1: still thinking that I want good things to happen for

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Speaker 1: Arnie and his life. So again, it could have been worse.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say, as somebody who hosted in this

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Speaker 2: time slot for many years with Arnie Spanier, I actually

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I tease him, I poke him

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Speaker 2: when I'm on air. There's actually one listener that thinks

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Speaker 2: that Arnie doesn't like me poking at him and is like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where Torres gets off talking Arnie like this,

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Speaker 2: because yeah, I call him old, and I call him

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Speaker 2: SEENI all those things you call Arnie. De Sager's over

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Speaker 2: there smirking, you know exactly what I'm talking about. We

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Speaker 2: play the cats sound for Arnie. So anyway, uh now,

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Speaker 2: he's a great guy. And uh again, I don't plan

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Speaker 2: on being out anytime soon, but I always know this

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Speaker 2: with an entertaining voice to say the least when I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: But it's good to be back. And Jason, you got

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Speaker 2: what this sound needs to be never heard from again.

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Speaker 1: Just by the way, by the way, last week, he said, C. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is a bust. Is done. Sure. He also said

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has done like he he came out at

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Speaker 1: the gates. Oh yeah, not just hot takes, but putting

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Speaker 1: people in halls of fame, retirement, his careers, everything.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy that belongs to the retirement home and

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Speaker 2: he's putting everybody else. I've told this story many times,

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Speaker 2: and I promise because there's actually a lot of preseason

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Speaker 2: football to get to tonight and just football in general.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it was the year, first of all,

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Speaker 2: last year, he I don't even know, but but the year,

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Speaker 2: if you remember two seasons ago, it was the day.

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Speaker 2: It was the Saturday after Thanksgiving. I think you were

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Speaker 2: unavailable to work. It was the first year that we

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Speaker 2: two great months of wall to wall college football. We

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Speaker 2: obviously do NFL. We will be back in this time

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Speaker 2: slot this coming fall to react to all things college football.

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Speaker 2: Great year, great season, final weekend of the regular season

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Speaker 2: for the first time in forever, Michigan beats Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's easy now Michigan's picked to win

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Speaker 2: nobody thought Michigan was gonna do it because that hadn't

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Speaker 2: done it in like fifteen years. And Hardball gets his

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Speaker 2: Before I can even get the first sentence out, Arnie's like,

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Speaker 2: let me tell you why Ohio State needs to make

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Speaker 2: But then two, I was like, can we Marrys spend like, like,

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Speaker 2: Michigan hasn't meet in Ohio State in like twenty five

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Speaker 2: working with Arnie. He will obviously be back on twenty

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Speaker 2: he filled in for me, Jason, I really do when

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Speaker 2: building today and see NFL football. Baby. That is right.

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Speaker 2: It is back seven preseason games tonight, Jason, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I just want to kind of talk about a few

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Speaker 2: different things that we saw today and over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of days and early it's frankly, let's just be blue.

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Speaker 2: It's a reason to talk football. We understand that at

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Speaker 2: most of the marquee players playing in these preseason games.

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Speaker 2: We're not seeing most of the big stars. And really,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the behind the scenes work, it's the practices.

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Speaker 2: It's the joint scrimmages, which is where whoever the Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: the Matt Staffords, etc. Are getting reps. But a few

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Speaker 2: things stood out to me today. One kind of the

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Speaker 2: juxtaposition of just how few guys play because Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: He did throw fifteen passes. He looked awesome. But I

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Speaker 2: know that Andy Reid has kind of made a history

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Speaker 2: interesting juxtaposition. I think I said that word correctly with

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Speaker 2: an Indianapolis Colts game where Anthony Richardson, a starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: that you and I have discussed since Week one of

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Speaker 2: now it's obviously the conversation about him being the starter.

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Speaker 2: Why I bring it up, Jason, I know we live

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Speaker 2: in a world where most guys, most star players, do

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Speaker 2: not get big time reps, if any reps, during preseason games.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised to see that, at least

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Speaker 2: as of right now, Anthony Richardson has not played for

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Speaker 2: he is going to. Are you surprised, Jason, that the

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Speaker 1: I'm stunned, actually what you said about Mahomes. I've read

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Speaker 1: during the preseason every year because he says he wants

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Speaker 1: to get hit. He won't to get hit hit hard,

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Speaker 1: Actually that they're on the right track, that the pacings right,

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Speaker 1: all of that. I like that mentality. Anthony Richardson. When

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Speaker 1: he injured or what precautionary reasons? What's going on here? No,

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Speaker 1: they just they named him the starter already for Week

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Speaker 1: star treatment. Didn't play a single snap in this game,

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Speaker 1: and he's not a star, Aaron, Nope, Like I was

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Speaker 1: reading Jordan Diianni at CBS Sports, and I thought he

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Speaker 1: four career games at Florida. Doesn't he need these reps? Heck, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he needs these reps. That's what I don't get. Like,

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Speaker 1: all right, so he's a starter, great, Well, he needs

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Speaker 1: the one thing that we knew we talked to Bertie

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Speaker 1: Because there's a boom potential here, but there's a lot

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Speaker 1: You've got to bring him along gradually, you've got to

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Speaker 1: let him take his lumps he's got to learn. He

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Speaker 1: to me, is just all right, So you guys just

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Speaker 1: I need game reps, I need your coach, I need

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Speaker 1: game more because I'm still very, very young. All of that,

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Speaker 1: doing alls concerts. I'm like, dude, the guy you just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I think there are trends that start

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Speaker 2: out with the best of intentions. Giving example, load management

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Speaker 2: we all get while it's started. San Antonio spurs older players,

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Speaker 2: limit travel, limit reps for when you get to that

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Speaker 2: point of Tim Duncan, Mono Genobli all that their careers

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Speaker 2: at a certain point, like hey, it really is about April,

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Speaker 2: But then load management evolves, and it evolves, and it evolves,

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Speaker 2: and it becomes the thing that you and I despise,

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Speaker 2: which is, oh, it's Tuesday in November, but Kawhi doesn't

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Speaker 2: he's injury prone.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Some maybe it's a bad exam point. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: make this whole thing of really limiting the body reps

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Speaker 2: and the body shots during the preseason. It did start

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Speaker 2: out with the best of intentions, and I totally get it,

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Speaker 2: and I get to your point, the veteran guys, the

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Speaker 2: quote unquote star treatment that you mention, I get not

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Speaker 2: playing running backs. I get not playing star receivers, having

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Speaker 2: much of what they mean to their teams. At the

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Speaker 2: same time, though, I do think it can go too

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Speaker 1: Aaron of some young receivers kind of coming into their

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Speaker 1: own late in the year. Aaron Rodgers all of a

429
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Speaker 1: sudden kind of felt like, all right, maybe I can

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Speaker 1: win with these guys, and so he kind of upped

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Speaker 1: his play late in the year. So Jordan Love's coming in,

432
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Speaker 1: and we've heard all the right things being said, Oh,

433
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Speaker 1: this guy's great and all this kind of stuff during

434
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Speaker 1: the preseason. Of course, that's what his teammates are gonna say,

435
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Speaker 1: is what his coach is gonna say. I want to

436
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Speaker 1: see when the rubber meets the road on that first

437
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Speaker 1: Sunday what he looks like. But I'm much more interested

438
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Speaker 1: in him because I'm not sure I'm I'm not totally

439
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: bored by the Patriots, but I'm pretty close. Like this

440
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Speaker 1: is just not a team that I feel like is

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Speaker 1: gonna be relevant to talk about much this year.

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Speaker 2: No, I it's interesting. I don't like really see the

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Speaker 2: scenario where where the Patriots are are anything other than

444
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Speaker 2: what we expect them to be, right Like, there are

445
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: always these teams that come out of nowhere, and this

446
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: team's better and who knew this guy? And how about

447
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Speaker 2: that guy in this whatever the Patriots, Like you said,

448
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Speaker 2: I because I go back to even two years ago, right,

449
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Speaker 2: because last year, we know the deal. They didn't have

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Speaker 2: a real offensive coordinator. It was Matt Patricia, it was

451
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Speaker 2: Joe Judge, it was whatever. But here's the thing, you

452
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Speaker 2: go back two years Yes, the Patriots made the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but it was clear even in that run that Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick had no trust in him and that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: wasn't gonna let him loose even when he had a

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Speaker 2: real offensive coordinator. And Josh McDaniels, I mean we all

457
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Speaker 2: remember that, you know, that famous Monday night game or

458
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Speaker 2: what was it three total passes that Mac Jones threw

459
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Speaker 2: in the Yeah, that bad weather and the bad weather,

460
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Speaker 2: and it was it was an unbelievable like feat to

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Speaker 2: win that game. But as the season war on, you

462
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Speaker 2: could just tell Belichick didn't have confidence. And whether McDaniels

463
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Speaker 2: didn't have confidence too, or whether Belichick just just didn't

464
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Speaker 2: want to let them loose, whatever it was, it was

465
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Speaker 2: clear that there was a ceiling on what they were

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Speaker 2: going to allow him to do. So I just bring

467
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Speaker 2: it up because with the Patriots, it just feels like, look,

468
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Speaker 2: you know, if things break right and maybe the Dolphins

469
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Speaker 2: aren't quite as good as we think, and you split

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Speaker 2: with the Jets, and you know, maybe you get a

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Speaker 2: couple wins here and there that nobody thinks and okay,

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Speaker 2: could I see the nine and eight and you're in

473
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Speaker 2: contention for a wild card berth. Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's gonna look different than we expect. I think

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Speaker 2: they're going to be who we are. It's just as

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Speaker 2: of who they're going to be, who we think they're

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Speaker 2: going to be, it's just what the actual ceiling is

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Speaker 2: if they play like that, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's right. I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Of all the football teams you watch on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to be one of them. They're

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Speaker 1: just gonna look like kind of a football team. There's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be anything particularly flashy about them. They're a

484
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Speaker 1: team that I think the ceiling for them, if everything

485
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Speaker 1: goes right, like you said, is maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: over five hundred. They get into the playoffs and then

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Speaker 1: they get bow raised and go home, like I just

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Speaker 1: I think, And there's a lot of teams and look,

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Speaker 1: there's no slight in making the playoffs. I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 1: that that's just a total failure of a year. But

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Speaker 1: it just kind of there's It definitely doles my interest

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Speaker 1: in paying attention to what the Patriots are doing, especially

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Speaker 1: considering there's so many fascinating things happening for all the

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Speaker 1: three other teams in that same division. We have come

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Speaker 1: to a place where the Patriots really are just kind

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Speaker 1: of null and void in my mind.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what you mentioned. One of the

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Speaker 2: other teams in that division they played tonight shaky start

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Speaker 2: for their quarterback. We'll discuss that next but for the

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Speaker 2: first time, let's toss it over the news desk this

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Speaker 2: evening time for Steve to say.

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Speaker 5: Hello, gentlemen, you mentioned the name Stetson Bennett this hour,

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Speaker 5: I will repeat what I heard at his opener for

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Speaker 5: the Rams last weekend. I looked it up and it's

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Speaker 5: actually true. Stetson Bennett and Sam Darnold are about the

506
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Speaker 5: same age.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you remember I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: heard this story, but the iconic Oklahoma Georgia Rose Bowl Game,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Stetson time. Stetson Bennett was the Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: of the Scout team, which was Kirby Smart's like second

511
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Speaker 2: year so so he he ran the whole gamut with

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Speaker 2: Kirby Smart from almost won the Big One too. Definitely

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Speaker 2: can't win the Big One to won two of the

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Speaker 2: big ones that.

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Speaker 1: He was long.

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Speaker 2: He was around for that long.

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Speaker 1: Who question is he gonna have a better potential NFL

518
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Speaker 1: career than Baker Mayfield. Yeah, after being his like I

519
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Speaker 1: don't know, doppel ganger on the scout team. Now he

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Speaker 1: has his chance potentially to have a better career because

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Speaker 1: it feels like it might be over for.

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Speaker 2: Baker, I think so.

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Speaker 5: So Yeah, that was also you referenced the Sony Michelle

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Speaker 5: game and he's now retired.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great call.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Stetson Bennett turns twenty six this season. Sam

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Speaker 5: Samtaro just turned twenty six this summer.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Julia Rodriguez, Mariners All Star, is all of twenty two

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Speaker 5: years old. He is on fire this week Gentlemen. Seattle

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Speaker 5: won it's fifth straight tonight ten three at Houston. Rodriguez

533
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Speaker 5: had his fourth straight four hit game, went four for

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Speaker 5: six in the last four games. He's seventeen for twenty

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Speaker 5: two at the plate and five steals in the last

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Speaker 5: four games. Needless to say, we haven't seen this go

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Speaker 5: on in our lifetimes. In fact, I think they said

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Speaker 5: since nineteen oh one, this hasn't happened. Seventeen total hit

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Speaker 5: seventeen of twenty two. Yes, it's just silly. What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Including the four for six in this game Tonight. Another

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Speaker 5: Seattle win, and the Mariners are still a half game

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Speaker 5: ahead of Toronto for the last ALE wildcard spot. Toronto

543
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: won its game four to three at Cincinnati. Milwaukee dominated

544
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: at Texas on FS one today six to one. The

545
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 5: Rangers offense went four for thirty two and struck out

546
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 5: eighteen times. Cleveland and Minnesota each lost at home twins.

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Speaker 5: First place in the Al Central still five games ahead

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Speaker 5: of the Guardians. The Mets pee Alonso hit a long

549
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 5: home run is thirty eighth. Mets won thirteen to two

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Speaker 5: at Saint Louis. The Alonzo home run went over four

551
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty feet, and the Braves magical season continues

552
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: a fifth straight win, beating the Giant six ' five

553
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Speaker 5: with a two run homer in the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: eighth by Eddie Rosario, who went four for four. Philadelphia

555
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 5: won twelve three and a comeback at Washington. Boston handed

556
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 5: the Yankees a seventh straight loss, eight to one, Cubs

557
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Speaker 5: over Kansas City six ' four Cody Bellinger two home runs,

558
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Speaker 5: four RBIs. Mookie Betts has two home runs for the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers tonight. This is the second of a double header.

560
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Speaker 5: La leads the Marlins three to one in the seventh.

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Speaker 5: Dodgers already won the opener three to one with their

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Speaker 5: three runs bottom of the eighth inning. Tampa Bay is

563
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Speaker 5: in a double header in Anaheim. Angels took the first

564
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Speaker 5: today seven to six, but the Rays lead tonight six

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Speaker 5: nothing over the Angels bottom of the fifth inning, And

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Speaker 5: a doubleheader in San Diego. The Diamondbacks took the opener

567
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Speaker 5: six to four. Diamondbacks bottom of the six lead the

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Speaker 5: nightcat for to one over San Diego. Why, first off,

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Speaker 5: are the three Southern California MLB teams all at home

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Speaker 5: at the same time. That's rare enough. Next question, why

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Speaker 5: do they all have doubleheaders today? Because all of their

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Speaker 5: games for tomorrow are rescheduled due to the tropical storm

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Speaker 5: that's going to land. Here was ninety degrees plus yesterday

574
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Speaker 5: and still in the eighties today. The forecast I saw

575
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Speaker 5: was about eighty degrees tomorrow. Wind and squalls. I have

576
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Speaker 5: never seen that wording in a Los Angeles forecast in

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Speaker 5: my life. But it's due to raid all day and

578
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Speaker 5: night Sunday, and the football game is still on at

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Speaker 5: the Rams Stadium where Stetson Bennett won his championship last season.

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00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: It's gonna be Chargers hosting the Saints, and in that

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Speaker 5: very stadium right now is one of the late games

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Speaker 5: the NFL exhibition. What's halftime in LA and the Raiders

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Speaker 5: lead the Rams twenty to ten an interception return for

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Speaker 5: a touchdown for e each side. And we brought it

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Speaker 5: up earlier at that Georgia TCU final to end the

586
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Speaker 5: college football season. It was at the Ram Stadium, and yes,

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Speaker 5: there was a rainstorm, yes outside that game that night,

588
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Speaker 5: in addition to all the points inside that night, and

589
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Speaker 5: the Ram Stadium, although it has the translucent roof over

590
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Speaker 5: the field, it's completely open air beyond each end zone,

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Speaker 5: and so people were actually getting wet with the sideways

592
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Speaker 5: rain coming through, and more to the point, that cement

593
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Speaker 5: plaza they've got behind the seating area was all getting

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Speaker 5: wet and there were falls and injuries. So we'll see

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Speaker 5: about tomorrow night during the tropical storm back to you.

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Speaker 2: Two Fox Sports radio soldiers named Dan Byer and Ertaurus

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Speaker 2: sitting in the last row of media availability thereat time class. Well,

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Speaker 2: we got pelted in the first half. We went to

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Speaker 2: the booth at halftime, the witch you mccaull it, the

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Speaker 2: press box did not make it out for the second half.

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Speaker 2: We watched the rest on circuit TV like everybody else,

602
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, a smirch buyer.

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Speaker 5: I think Defense didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: They barely made it out for the first time.

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Speaker 1: They make it off the bus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was seven to seven at one point,

607
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: and then it was like thirty one to seven at

608
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Speaker 2: halftime or something, and then it just got worse from there.

609
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Speaker 2: So bad game. Rainstorm going on during that one, and

610
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: a lot of crazy weather expected.

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Speaker 5: And maybe they'll actually put those things down on the

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Speaker 5: spent like some people put in their showers.

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Speaker 1: So you just as super ducks on the ground.

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Speaker 5: You think of that.

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Speaker 2: Well, last thing, and I know this in the grand

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Speaker 2: scheme isn't that important, but you know, when you build

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Speaker 2: these stadiums, it's a multipurpose stadium, right, so you do

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Speaker 2: it for whatever. Taylor Swift, I mean Taylor swift, a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, a Final four, whatever, Final four can never

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Speaker 2: be played at SOFI Stadium because they decided to keep

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Speaker 2: it open air. And it's like a cool geographic or

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: geographic architectural thing it is, but kind of limits some

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Speaker 2: of the things you can do. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they care that you're right.

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Speaker 5: You're right with the outdoors, because remember when Steve Nash

626
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 5: was playing Phoenix had an exhibition game at the Tennis

627
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 5: Stadium mount in Paul Strings and it was affecting some

628
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: of the outside shots. Sons, Oh, that Suns team's always

629
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 5: shooting threes, but it was windy out in the desert

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Speaker 5: and it would affect your shot.

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Speaker 2: I was at the the Aircraft Carrier game this year

632
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Speaker 2: Michigan State and Kinzaga, and the players were literally like, yeah,

633
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 2: I was seeing my shot go up and then it

634
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: was like a golf slice to the left or right.

635
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: It was just just dying.

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Speaker 5: In addition to the sun before the sun went down,

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Speaker 5: that's right.

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00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So there was a little bit of a

639
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: glare and then the wood got a little bit out

640
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Speaker 2: of control. But I'll tell you what Fox Sports Radio

641
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Speaker 2: air towards Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the

642
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Speaker 2: Tyreck dot com studios. We just talked Mac Jones and

643
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots. When we come back, we'll discuss another AFC quarterback.

644
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Speaker 2: Not a great night tonight, Does it mean anything? That's next?

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Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about the Mac Jones Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love showdown here in the preseason. By the way, for

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Speaker 2: people who are driving around eleven preseason games tonight, I

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Speaker 2: think I said there were seven seven currently going on

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Speaker 2: eleven total. We've just been kind of ripping around the

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Speaker 2: big stories of the nights. Just mentioned Mac Jones and

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Another AFC East team was on

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Speaker 2: the field. The Miami Dolphins played the Houston Texans earlier

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Speaker 2: in the day and Tua did take the field as

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Speaker 2: the team starting quarterback. Here is what his first past

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Speaker 2: today sounded like.

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Speaker 1: First half of the Miami seventeen. Tua fakes to give

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Speaker 1: steps to his left, throws down field. It's picked off

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Speaker 1: right away across the fifteen, ted five and down inside

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Speaker 1: the six yard line. Paraman with the pick to start

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Speaker 1: the party.

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Speaker 2: So that was, I believe courtesy of the Dolphins radio network.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. I'll get that right by the end of

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Speaker 2: the segment, but uh, Tua. The first pass of the

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Speaker 2: game was interception returned pretty much into the opposing team's

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Speaker 2: red zone really quick. You know, I'll say this is

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Speaker 2: when you said last segment that the Patriots are probably

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Speaker 2: very likely going to finish in last place in that division.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. I do think though,

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Speaker 2: that there is kind of like this sort of big

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Speaker 2: assumption that the Miami Dolphins are just going to be

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Speaker 2: really good and then it's a question of whether they

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Speaker 2: can break through. And I get it. Last year obviously

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Speaker 2: they were able to make the playoffs, and you know whatever,

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Speaker 2: I get it too. It gets hurt late, they stumble

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Speaker 2: down the stretch, but they still make the playoffs. I

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Speaker 2: know they have the talent. I know all the skill

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Speaker 2: position guys are there, but tuas to we don't know

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Speaker 2: if we can trust him. And I'm just they're the team.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, Jason, I'm just not sold. I think

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Speaker 2: everyone has penciled them in as the second or third

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Speaker 2: best team in that division and probably in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I am not there yet because as much as I

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Speaker 2: love too, as much as I'm moving for him, I

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Speaker 2: just don't trust.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm with you on that part. I even

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Speaker 1: think of backup with that talent though, looking at that

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Speaker 1: against I mean, how is New England going to score

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Speaker 1: a lot of points? How are they going to score regularly?

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Speaker 1: I just think it's going to be so hard for

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Speaker 1: them to generate offense consistently throughout the course of the

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Speaker 1: season that I still could see even if Tua missed

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Speaker 1: a month, that Miami still ends up with a better

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Speaker 1: record than they do now. Maybe not, potentially not. I

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Speaker 1: think it is very likely that Tua gets banged up

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Speaker 1: again during the air hope not. But this was my

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Speaker 1: concern with him coming out of Alabama. I said this

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Speaker 1: to Arnie last week. If a guy can't finish his

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Speaker 1: last two years at Alabama without injuries in the SEC schedule,

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Speaker 1: how is he going to survive with a worse offensive

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Speaker 1: line in the pros? And the offensive line's gotten better

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years for Miami, but it's

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Speaker 1: still not knockout. He was playing with dudes that were

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Speaker 1: going to play on Sunday in front of him all

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Speaker 1: over the place at Alabama and he was still getting hurt.

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Speaker 1: So that always bothered me. So yeah, I certainly do

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Speaker 1: not trust his health. I've heard about, Oh, he should

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Speaker 1: be healthy this year and all this Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: until he gets popped wrong and can't get up from

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Speaker 1: it again, and I'm praying. Of course, worst case scenario

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Speaker 1: is a concussion. Obviously we don't need that, but I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see him get hurt at all. But

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely there's a lot of questions in that division.

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Speaker 1: They're just are like and we have kind of round

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Speaker 1: about over the last month or so, or during the

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Speaker 1: off season for sure, talked about all of them, Tua

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Speaker 1: and Miami. What is this Jets thing going to actually

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Speaker 1: look like when they're you know, playing in their first

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Speaker 1: five games are tough, Like, what happens if it doesn't

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Speaker 1: start out well? What happens with Aaron Rodgers, who said

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Speaker 1: a lot of the right things during the off season,

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Speaker 1: but what changes at that point in time? New England

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Speaker 1: we kind of have discussed tonight. And then there's Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: who you know, most power rankings still have them top

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Speaker 1: five in the league, not being seen the way they

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Speaker 1: were last year, but their off season has been anything

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Speaker 1: but smooth. And this is kind of the year where

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Speaker 1: all right, if you're gonna get it done, now's the year,

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Speaker 1: Like this is the year to step up and get

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Speaker 1: it done, and it just feels like most people have

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Speaker 1: penciled in the Chiefs and the Bengals as the two

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Speaker 1: teams that will dominate the AFC this year, and the

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Speaker 1: Bills were in that conversation at the top of it

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Speaker 1: last year. So I just that division is going to

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Speaker 1: be really interesting to watch, just because there is a

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Speaker 1: reason to doubt every single team in the division really quickly?

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Speaker 2: Is there? I mentioned the Miami Dolphins being the team that, like,

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Speaker 2: I think everyone just has them pegged for a certain thing,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not sold that they're there yet. Is there

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Speaker 2: one team for you? And I know I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: throwing a curveball at you here, but is there one

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Speaker 2: team that you're like everybody feels a certain way, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just not sure in the division or period, any anywhere, Yeah, anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still think the Chargers are going to

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Speaker 1: be getting a lot of love, and I've got I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to see that. Sure, I want to see

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Speaker 1: what Kellen Moore means to them. But I still don't

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Speaker 1: think Staley. I think I think Staley. If Staley can

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Speaker 1: be talked out of holding a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet and

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Speaker 1: making all his decisions on that and then being baffled

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Speaker 1: when the percentages in front of him don't play out

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Speaker 1: in real life. Then yeah, because we know what Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert can be. But this is definitely one of those

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Speaker 1: years where I'm gonna need to see that for the

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Speaker 1: whole year. Even if they look good for the first

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Speaker 1: half of the season, I'm gonna need to see that

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Speaker 1: one for the entire year. The other one that I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of wavering on, well, I still think people

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Speaker 1: are overvaluing the Cowboys again because they're the Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: want to see Brock party in year two. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: the other one for me is I really like San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: They've got all the tools. But did everybody totally miss

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Speaker 1: on him that badly in the draft or was there

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Speaker 1: something about last season that's not gonna be duplicated this

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Speaker 1: time around. That's the other one for me.

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Speaker 2: And he's coming off elbow surgery, right like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's easy to just sit there and say, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's Kyle Shanahan and it's a I get

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Speaker 2: it as a major surgery to not have much time

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Speaker 2: in the pre in the preseason, in the offseason. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Air tors, Jason Martin coming up switch the NBA.

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Speaker 2: James Harden, what are you doing next? Welcome man, everybody

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Speaker 2: our two Fox Sports Radio tours and Martin. We are

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Speaker 2: taking you up until two am Eastern time, and we

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Speaker 2: should be, all right, Jason. So in our one, we

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Speaker 2: talked a lot of NFL as the sager just said,

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Speaker 2: eleven total preseason games on Saturday. We'll get back to

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Speaker 2: some reaction because there was some interesting stuff that happened today.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes did play, Anthony Richardson didn't. We didn't even

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Speaker 2: talk about the fact that Trey Lance did not see

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Speaker 2: snaps early in the game, while both brock Perty and

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold did for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: So we will get back to some NFL stuff here momentarily,

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Speaker 2: but I kind of want to whip around some other

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Speaker 2: sports and I do. I think it's worth at least

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Speaker 2: addressing the big story in the NBA from this week,

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Speaker 2: so everybody knows and the story is a few days old,

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Speaker 2: but it is still again I believe, important enough for

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Speaker 2: us to talk about here on a Saturday. It involves

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Speaker 2: the always disgruntled James Harden. So prior to this week,

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Speaker 2: when we last saw James Harden, he was once again

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Speaker 2: choking in Game seven of A Playoffs, then immediately throwing

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Speaker 2: his coach under the bus. Doc Rivers end up getting fired,

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Speaker 2: and later on we find out throughout the summer that

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Speaker 2: James Harden wants a trade out of Philadelphia. Again, just

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Speaker 2: a totally shocking, unexpected turn that James Harden isn't happy

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Speaker 2: in his current locale. Well, right before you and Arnie

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Speaker 2: came on air last Saturday, I saw this story even

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Speaker 2: while I was traveling. Uh, there's really no trademarket for

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Speaker 2: James Harden, certainly not to places that he actually wants

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Speaker 2: to go. He wants to go to the Clippers. The

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Speaker 2: problem is Clippers kind of know that he's out of

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Speaker 2: shape and often disgruntled and whatever. And essentially Daryl Morey

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Speaker 2: has basically drawn the line in the sand and said,

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Speaker 2: unless we get equal value for James Harden, we're not

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Speaker 2: trading him, and we expect James Harden at training camp

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Speaker 2: to start things off here in a couple weeks in

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Speaker 2: the end of September. I bring it up to say

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Speaker 2: James Harden was quiet until earlier this week during an

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Speaker 2: appearance in China. Here is the first of several things

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Speaker 2: he had to say this week.

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Speaker 4: Is a liar and I would never be a part

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Speaker 4: of an organizations war.

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Speaker 3: Darryl Mooory is a liar.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would never be a part of an

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Speaker 2: organization he's a part of. So that was in case

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Speaker 2: people couldn't hear it. Now you've probably heard the sound

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Speaker 2: throughout the day. James Harden, speaking publicly, said Darryl Morey

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Speaker 2: is a liar. I will never play for him again.

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Speaker 2: James Harden then followed up in a separate interview on

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Speaker 2: yesterday with this, do.

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Speaker 1: You have an open line of communication with the seventy

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Speaker 1: six ers and how much patience do you need to

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Speaker 1: have to let this play out. I'm just I'm been

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Speaker 1: patient all the summer. So for me, it's just focus

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Speaker 1: on what I can control, and that's you know, working out,

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Speaker 1: standing in shape and getting ready for good season. Too

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Speaker 1: late to repair the relationship, I think.

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Speaker 2: So that was James Harden again speaking about the relationship

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Speaker 2: with Daryl Morey and the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. Jason,

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Speaker 2: I know you and already pro we touched on this

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Speaker 2: a little bit last week, but there are new twists

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Speaker 2: since last week. So what are your thoughts? I think

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Speaker 2: I know where you stand, but I'll toss it over

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Speaker 2: to you. What are your thoughts on this latest twist?

858
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Speaker 1: It'd be cool if I never had to hear another

859
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: James Harden's story again. It's sad because he has been

860
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: a great player, and he's been really fun to watch,

861
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: especially at his best when he was in Houston and

862
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: even early when he was in Oklahoma City. But this

863
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: version of Harden is the version of Harden that we've

864
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: seen at some point everywhere he's been. And the problem

865
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: with all of this, Aaron is the reason he's upset

866
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: with Maury is because the seventy six Ers aren't offering

867
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: him a long term max contract. For what reason? James,

868
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: would anyone offer you a long term max contract? Not

869
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: this past year, but the year prior it looked like

870
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: you were done, and then this past year in the

871
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: games that mattered most for your team in terms of

872
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: advancing in the playoffs. You were not there for them.

873
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: You shot the ball horrendously and we can place a

874
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: lot of blame on him be too, no question about it.

875
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: But you're not an asset anymore that's going to get

876
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: back what maybe you're worth to the Sixers. In the

877
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: Sixers mind, in Morey's mind, it's like, all right, well,

878
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Harden is going to be this for our team. Here's

879
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: what he's been so far. I know what he's capable of.

880
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: If he gives us three good games a week, that's

881
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: going to put us in a good spot or whatever.

882
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the mental gymnastics are, but

883
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: there's something to that degree. Maybe the Clippers would want him,

884
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: but the Clippers aren't going to give up their entire

885
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: nucleus or just acquiesced to whatever. Kawhi Lend and Paul George,

886
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: maybe you want just to make it happen and then

887
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: still not be very good. And you've already got you know,

888
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: you certainly haven't a loof personality already with the Clippers,

889
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: So why would you want to add this to that?

890
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: At the point where Harden is not what he once

891
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: was he might give you thirty one night, but then

892
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: the next five games he might give you thirty combined.

893
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: I just hardens the way that Harden operates is just

894
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: constantly walking around like he's a victim. He was a

895
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: victim in Brooklyn, he was a victim at the end

896
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: in Houston. He's a victim right now. He's a victim.

897
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I will never play for Darryl Moray again. And I

898
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned this yet, and I don't think I have

899
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: to say this in much depth because anyone that has

900
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: paid attention to geopolitics over the last half decade particularly,

901
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: we'll already understand this. James Harden being in China speaking

902
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: about Darryl Morey, let's just say, Aaron, those are treacherous

903
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: waters to be waiting in, and they're also very questionable

904
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: waters to be waiting in. I at an Adida's event,

905
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: did you feel the need to do this in that country,

906
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: considering the climate today and considering the person of which

907
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: you were speaking.

908
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, I think that's a bad look.

909
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's a horrible look.

910
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: It's a horrible look. I undersold that a little bit,

911
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: but I mean you could I'm not enough of a politics, Like,

912
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's hyperbole to say, like you could

913
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: be putting Darryl Moury's livelihood on the line, not only

914
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: his career but but his safety. Like there's just a

915
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: lot at play after what Darryl Moury said, you know

916
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: about free Hong Kong and on social media whatever, to

917
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: make that comment about him in that country, I guess

918
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: what I would just say about the comments themselves. It's

919
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: just you know, like I know, it feels like every

920
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: time we talk about one of these guys, it's the

921
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: same thing over and over. But it's like the same

922
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: with Kyrie. It's like, dude, I am just so over James,

923
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: and I think I'm more over James Harden than I

924
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: am Kyrie, because like Kyrie, I think is a little

925
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: bit self aware of how we really feel about him.

926
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: And I think Kyrie is at the point where he

927
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: doesn't care. I'm gonna be Kyrie, I'm gonna be different.

928
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: You don't like me, that's fine, deal with it. James Harden,

929
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: I still think thinks that we all think, if that

930
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: makes sense. It's a lot of thinking, but something James

931
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Harden doesn't do often. But neither here nor there like,

932
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: I still think in his heart of hearts that he

933
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: believes that we all think that he's one of the

934
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: two to three best players on the planet and he

935
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: should just be allowed to do anything he wants at

936
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: any given time. Well he's not. I don't believe he's

937
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: even one of the two best players on the Philadelphia

938
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 2: seventy six ers. If you're thinking, exactly if I had

939
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: to bet my future, if I was Daryl Morey, obviously

940
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: you keep the MVP, And I believe in the next

941
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: five years of Tyree's MAXI significantly more than I do

942
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: James Harden, and I just go back to what you said,

943
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: always thinking he's a victim, but more importantly thinking that

944
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: he's still the MVP. This is the guy that the

945
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: last time that we saw him take the court in

946
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: Game seven of an Eastern Conference semifinals. Sooner I'm talking

947
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: about the finals, talking about the Eastern Conference Semifinals, a

948
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: win or go home situation. We know how the playoffs work,

949
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: especially in a game seven. This was a guy in

950
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: James Harden that in that game seven, when you're the

951
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: superstar that is supposed to rise to the occasion and

952
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: be great, same game, by the way that Jason Tatum,

953
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: who is a superstar, had fifty one points James Harden

954
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: in forty one minutes, three of eleven, one of five

955
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: from three, seven assists, five turnovers. And so if he

956
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: was still the guy that was averaging thirty four eight

957
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: and eight and was bringing at an MVP level every night,

958
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: it'd be one thing. I wouldn't like it, but I'd say, Okay,

959
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: he deserves the leverage because he's playing at an MVP level.

960
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: But to be a guy that plays that bad in

961
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: that crucial of a game at a point in your

962
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: career that you are just so lacking self awareness and

963
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: you don't impact winning. He hasn't made it out of

964
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: the second round of the playoffs in half a decade.

965
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: He then proceeds to throw his coach under the bus,

966
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: the GM, who has had his back from day one.

967
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: I just think the guy is just a despicable loser.

968
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: I've said it on air. I think he's a freaking loser.

969
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 2: Doesn't impact winning, comes in out of shape, never happy,

970
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: never happy, no matter who his teammates are, the guy

971
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: is a loser. I just I don't know. I'm just

972
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: so over the guy. I'm just so over.

973
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said a lot of this in the past,

974
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: so it's gonna sound like I literally just put on

975
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: my first album again. But he's not somebody that I

976
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: believe you will win a championship if he's on your roster.

977
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: He's someone where I actually am gonna have to say

978
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: and win a title before the next year I would say,

979
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: all right, maybe they can win, Like he's gonna have

980
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: to actually do it for me to believe that it's

981
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: even possible. At this point in time, he's thirty four

982
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: years old. The difference between him and Kyrie, to your point,

983
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: they're both obnoxious, super obnoxious, and not people I would

984
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: want to deal with if I was an NBA front

985
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: office guy. But if Kyrie is dialed in and wants to,

986
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: he can straight up ball every night. Now that's a

987
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: big if because there are knights where he's not dialed in,

988
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: or if he's not happy or this and that. But

989
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: he's capable of balling out every single night and being

990
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: a star. If James Harden wanted to do that every night,

991
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 1: now he can't. In my opinion, at thirty four, he's

992
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: lost some of his consistency. He's and he was never

993
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: good defensively anyway. But he's not a guy who I

994
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: think physically can dominate on a night to night basis.

995
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: He's somebody where he's gonna give you two good games

996
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: out of seven or something like that. Kyrie could give

997
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: you seven out of seven. I think if he's dialed

998
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: in and wanted to, that's the difference. And we've already

999
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: we've always said everybody in sports knows this. If you're good,

1000
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: if you're super valuable, you can get away with a

1001
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: lot more. And and so Harden's argument here, he's upset.

1002
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: He's like, they said they would work with me on

1003
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: a trade. Well they probably did, Like I'm sure Maury

1004
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: was going to acquiesce to what you wanted. James. Problem is,

1005
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: you're just not that valuable anymore. You're just not And

1006
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: it seems like everybody is aware of that, but you

1007
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: and you're frustrated because you're coming to grips with the

1008
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: fact that your best days are over and that you're

1009
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: not the guy that everybody's going to bend over and

1010
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, bend the knee for at this point in

1011
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: time and just say yes, my king, please come. That's

1012
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: not the way this works. There are a ton of

1013
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: dudes at this point in the league more valuable than you,

1014
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: better than you, and certainly better teammates and are going

1015
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: to make for better chemistry than you. You bring baggage

1016
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: and inconsistency. Who in the world is going to pay

1017
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: max value for that, including the team that you currently

1018
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: play for. If you want to play, show up and play.

1019
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: If you don't go away at this point in time,

1020
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: I could care less.

1021
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: No, I agree, and last little thought, because we got

1022
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: plenty more to get to throughout the night. But to

1023
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: your point, like you can demand a trade, there has

1024
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: to be a market for you. Yeah, and when you

1025
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: make it clear. First of all, you have burn bridges

1026
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: in a couple places already, and you've made it clear

1027
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: you really don't want to go to one or two places,

1028
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: like you know. I get the comparison to Dame Lillard,

1029
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: but I still think Dame Lillard can impact winning at

1030
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: a really high level. Yes, and he's worth trading for

1031
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: if you're the Miami Heat, if you're the Los Angeles Clippers.

1032
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you said. Yes, you kick the tires,

1033
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: Yes you consider it, Yes you think of the pros

1034
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: and cons of putting him with two guys and Paul

1035
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: George and Kawhi Leonard that you kind of never know

1036
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get from a night to night basis

1037
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: just like him, but you don't give up whatever few

1038
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: assets you have left to It isn't like a move

1039
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: that you have to make if you're the Los Angeles Clippers.

1040
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: It is not the same as Dame Lollard in the

1041
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: Miami Heat. I saw people saying that so much over

1042
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: the last three or four days. It's a completely different deal.

1043
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't understand that, including James.

1044
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, look, it's like DeAndre Hopkins being compared

1045
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown in a lot of ways, Like DeAndre

1046
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: Hopkins can still help you win football games in my opinion,

1047
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: and doesn't bring the same baggage, right. Like, It's not

1048
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: like people said Damian Loward's a bad teammate or anything else.

1049
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: Damian Loward just kind of wants to go somewhere and

1050
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: have a chance to win. Yep. And Okay, you know

1051
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people have done that. I mean a

1052
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: lot of people have won championships making that decision. But

1053
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: James Harden is the guy where it's like, if I

1054
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: bring you in at this point in time, I know

1055
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: what the attitude's gonna be. Yep, I see the A

1056
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: and there's not that much of a market for it

1057
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: because most people have already kind of readlined and said no,

1058
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: like they crossed you off the list. They're like, no,

1059
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,479
Speaker 1: this is not a guy we want to bring into

1060
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: our organization because the cons now outweigh the pros, and

1061
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: that that that just ends up playing you out to

1062
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: where you don't have that many places to go, and

1063
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: you can be upset that you're not getting the destinations

1064
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: that you want to go to, but that's because nobody

1065
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: can offer them value that's better than well, we might

1066
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: as well just keep him around because we're getting garbage

1067
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Speaker 1: in return, and that just that that doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: from a business standpoint. Darryl Moray doesn't Oh James Harden anything.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing that I think a lot

1070
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 2: of these guys that demand trades like again, to to

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Speaker 2: the point that we both made Anthony Davis demands a trade, Well,

1072
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 2: the Lakers really want them, and they're gonna do whatever,

1073
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: and so eventually the trade is gonna get done. You

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Speaker 2: know Whoever, I'm just trying to think of who else

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Speaker 2: is demanded trades in recent years and kind of got

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Speaker 2: in their ways. It's like, yeah, because that guy has

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Speaker 2: a ton of value and that team really wants him. Well, durrant, durrant, Yeah,

1078
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Speaker 2: like you know whatever, You get the point. It's frustrating,

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Speaker 2: and as I've said a few times, I think the

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Speaker 2: most frustrating thing for me as a consumer, I don't

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Speaker 2: believe that James Harden understands like James Harden doesn't get

1082
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: any of this, and James Harden still thinks he's that

1083
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: MVP level guy. What did I just say, the biggest

1084
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: game of the year last year nine points And I

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00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: don't blame a single person, single team even for having

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00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 2: zero interest in bringing him in. Fox Sports Radio Aeron

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Speaker 2: Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna talk a little college football and

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio every Setday and Sunday morning three hours before

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Speaker 2: On Saturdays, Brian No, former Penn State All American Rich

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Speaker 2: We'll walk you up right through college football kickoff and

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Speaker 2: on NFL Sundays, Brian No, eight year NFL VET Jeff

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Speaker 2: you right up to the early NFL kickoffs. You can

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Speaker 2: listen to countdown to kickoff weekend mornings right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. As I mentioned

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Speaker 2: a week from today we have college football, would be

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Speaker 2: remiss if Jason and I then give you the biggest

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Speaker 2: storylines that you need to know. We're gonna cover a

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Speaker 2: lot of ground. Get your notepads in your notebooks. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot to discuss. That's next. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Eric Torres Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: the break, play and get your freak on. We get

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Speaker 2: my freak on. Watch a college football next weekend, Jason.

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00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, week's our time.

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00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: It's our time for people who are new to us

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00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: and what we do. Obviously, we will be doing a

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: lot of college football here over the next three four months.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, we get the privilege of talking about

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00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: a lot of different things in this time slot. But

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: there is nothing like a big college football Saturday, in

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Speaker 2: a big college football Saturday night. And although Week one

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00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: is still two saturdays away, Week zero actually kicks off

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Speaker 2: next Saturday. Just a handful of games, most notably Notre

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: Dame will play Navy and of course US. He will

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00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: play on the PAC twelve network, so no one will

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Speaker 2: see it. But apparently they're actually playing a game, you know,

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Speaker 2: of some sort next week. That again, we will have

1130
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: to call Ernie Spaniard for updates for since he's the

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00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: only person I know that has the PAC twelve network.

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: I do remember, Oh yeah, that's right, okay.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm very close in PAC twelve country over here

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: The bigger question is just what's what's going to become

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Speaker 2: of the PAC twelve network in a year or two, Like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's another food

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Speaker 1: channel out there. There's probably another culinary network. Maybe Guy

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00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Fieri actually wants to start his own.

1140
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Speaker 2: He should channel. He's got enough content, He's got enough,

1141
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: He's got more content than the PAC twelve starting in

1142
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: a you know, July one of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That was a good reason to have Arnie on last

1144
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: week too, and to be with him as I was

1145
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Speaker 1: able to actually just ask him because like, Dute're an

1146
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Arizona guy, what do you think? Like, how do you

1147
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: feel about this? And there's definitely it's just kind of

1148
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: a feeling of it's a bummer for a lot of people.

1149
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: It just is and it does feel like college football

1150
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: the way we knew it. We're still going to watch

1151
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: the games and enjoy it. But what made college football

1152
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: novel and unique, the traditions and all of that kind

1153
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: of thing, A lot of that's just going to be lost.

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: It really is at this point becoming another professional sport.

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Speaker 1: And at some point we had John Morosi actually on Sunday,

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: I was in with Steve Hartman last week and we

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: had John Rosi come on it, and he point blank

1158
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: said the same things, like, eventually college football is going

1159
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: to break off and it's going to be individual, and

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: then the other sports are going to go back to

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01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: being more regional. And I think there's a very good

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: possibility that happens, because if it doesn't, a lot of

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Speaker 1: those sports are not going to exist anymore, and that's

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: going to be a problem. And I think that's going

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01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: to raise enough of a ruckus to where college football

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01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: is just going to become a business of its own.

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Speaker 2: So all of that is just one thousand percent on point.

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01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: I actually about a week and a half ago, maybe

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: it was after the last time we did a show,

1170
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 2: but Chip Kelly did it of you somewhere. I thought

1171
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: he brought up the best point. He said, Notre Dame

1172
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: is independent in football, and they're in a conference for

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Speaker 2: everything else that geographically makes sense for them, and it's

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Speaker 2: pretty relatively good competition relative to all these sports that

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Speaker 2: they play. He said, we should just all be independent

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Speaker 2: in football and figure it out from there and whatever,

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Speaker 2: and there's obviously more coming. I think that's the part

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: that I think is what's kind of frustrating to me.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think what's really frustrating, and I

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01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: want to get some of the positives of college football,

1181
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: but you know, I think what's frustrating to me is

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01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: the idea that you know, that we put these things

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: in place to kind of maintain the way it could be. Right, So, like,

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: we have a twelve team playoff next year with six

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: automatic bids, with the thought process being okay, well we

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01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: have five power fives and that will help protect the

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Speaker 2: pac twelve. And it's still kind of ended up the

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Speaker 2: way that it did. And oh, by the way, you

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01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 2: know the acc we know the reports that Florida State

1190
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: wants out, and so it's just cash. I'll tell you what, Jason,

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01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: I do want to get to some of the positives

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: of college football, because there's an awful lot. But rather

1193
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: than jumping right into it, how about we toss it

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: over the news desk, give it to de Seger. I

1195
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: think again, we'll talk some mainstream, you know, big time

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Speaker 2: college football going in the season Saga fours years.

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Speaker 5: Hello again, gentlemen, and you mentioned you are in Nashville.

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Speaker 5: We will get to the Titans game in just a moment.

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Speaker 5: But Lionel Messi was in Nashville tonight for the Major

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 5: League Soccer Tournament final, the New League's Cup. It was tied,

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 5: went to penalty kicks, and believe it or not, at

1202
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 5: ten to nine, Nashville's last kick is stop Miami League's

1203
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 5: Cup champs. Leonel Messi, to say the least, making a difference.

1204
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 5: He joins an inter Miami team that was dead last

1205
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 5: in the MLS to Eastern Conference in the regular season

1206
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: in fact five and fourteen with three ties. What's their record?

1207
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Speaker 5: And here he comes just in time to enter this

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Speaker 5: tournament and they run to a title. And he's having

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Speaker 5: a blast in the unit United States. And Giannis Atenecumpo,

1210
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Speaker 5: NBA superstar, was there on the field before the game

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 5: in Nashville, minority owner of Nashville's soccer club, and he

1212
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 5: was taking some kicks, bearing a shot from distance at

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Speaker 5: one point and doing the Cristiano Ronaldo goal celebration. Apparently

1214
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Speaker 5: his dad was a pro soccer player in Nigeria. But

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 5: AP also says other minority owners of this soccer club

1216
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 5: in Nashville include Derrick Henry and Reese Witherspoon. As for

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01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 5: the many NFL exhibitions, tonight. We'll get more in just

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: over from an an hour from now. In lots of details,

1219
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 5: but among the ones that have gone final recently, Tennessee

1220
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 5: wins at Minnesota twenty four to sixteen, Vikings zero to

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Speaker 5: two in the preseason for the Titans, Tonight rushed for

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Speaker 5: two hundred eighty one yards. I don't recall seeing Derrick

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Speaker 5: Henry on the field, and they still rush for two

1224
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 5: hundred eighty one yards. Quarterback Malik Willis eleven carries ninety

1225
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Speaker 5: one yards rushing. Kansas City played four quarterbacks, including starter

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes. Chiefs had five hundred and four yards of

1227
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Speaker 5: offense thirty eight ten the final at Arizona. Mahomes a

1228
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 5: touchdown pass ten of fifteen one hundred five yards, Shane

1229
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: Buschell ten of ten passing one hundred five yards and

1230
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 5: a touchdown run. Blaine Gabbard had two touchdown passes. He

1231
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 5: was seven of eight one hundred twenty yards. New England

1232
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 5: won its game at Green Bay twenty one seventeen. However,

1233
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 5: that game was called after an injury with about ten

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01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 5: minutes to go. New England defensive back Isaiah Bolden was

1235
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 5: knocked out in a collision was stretchered off to a

1236
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 5: local hospital for tests and observation. He is said to

1237
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 5: have feelings in his extremities Indianapolis and Tampa Bay with wins.

1238
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh was up twenty seven nothing after three quarters and

1239
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 5: beat Buffalo twenty seven to fifteen, four turnovers for Matt

1240
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 5: Barkley of the Bills. Victories on the road for Miami

1241
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 5: and Jacksonville among the games that are going early fourth

1242
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 5: quarter in LA. The Raiders lead the Rams twenty seven

1243
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 5: to seventeen, Stetson Bennett one hundred and forty two yards,

1244
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 5: passing one interception final seconds before halftime at Seattle. At

1245
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 5: Seahawks seventeen to seven over Dallas, Gino Smith started five

1246
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 5: of six forty six yards. To Major League Baseball, the

1247
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 5: Dodgers swept a double header from Miami, winning three to

1248
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 5: one today with three runs bottom of the eighth, and

1249
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 5: winning three to one tonight. Mookie Bets hit two solo homers.

1250
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 5: Attendance fifty three thousand, a sellout. It was Lebron James

1251
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 5: Bobblehead night at Dodger Stadium, and Mooki saluted Lebron up

1252
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 5: in the club level after his first home run doubleheader

1253
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 5: in San Diego. Arizona took the first game six to four,

1254
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 5: and Arizona's winning the nightcap eight to one over the

1255
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 5: Padres in the top of the ninth, going for a sweep.

1256
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 5: Angels took the opener of their doubleheader at Anaheim seven

1257
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: to six against Tampa Bay. But the Rays are leading

1258
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 5: fifteen to one over the Angels in the top of

1259
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 5: the eighth and bases loaded one out looking for more.

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01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 5: That's hardly over. The three Southern California ball clubs, in

1261
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 5: case you didn't hear, each had their games for tomorrow

1262
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 5: rescheduled due to a tropical storm. Right so they each

1263
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 5: have Saturday doubleheaders. Boston sent the Yankees to a seventh

1264
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 5: straight loss eight to one. Braves won their fifth in

1265
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 5: a row, and Seattle won it's fifth straight. All Star

1266
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 5: Julio Rodriguez went four for six, his fourth straight four

1267
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 5: hit game. Back to you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: To Sega, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday eron Torres,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot Com studios,

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Speaker 2: dot com. Jason, you know, we just talked a little

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Speaker 2: bit about some of the negative of college football and

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Speaker 2: college sports in general the last couple weeks. With the

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Speaker 2: breakup almost certainly of the Pac twelve conference, we now

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Speaker 2: have eight of the twelve officially going to other conferences

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Speaker 2: next year. We'll see where the next four land. But

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Speaker 2: I do want to talk positives because again, we will

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Speaker 2: have games next week and I do think this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a really fun season in my mind. You know,

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Speaker 2: you look at the biggest complaint about college football the

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Speaker 2: last seven, eight, nine years is it's been too top heavy. Right, Well,

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Speaker 2: Michigan was picked to win the Big Ten. Clemson, you know,

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Speaker 2: has as much of a challenge atop the ACC as

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Speaker 2: they have had in a while. Alabama, most some people

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Speaker 2: don't even think they're the best team in the West,

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Speaker 2: let alone certainly the best team in the SEC, as

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Speaker 2: Georgia was picked by the media to win that league.

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Speaker 2: Not surprisingly. If I tell you, give me the one

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Speaker 2: story that you are most intrigued by coming into the season,

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Speaker 2: what would it be?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I mean, what Georgia could potentially

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Speaker 1: do is big time, and they continue to lose people

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Speaker 1: when they continue to get them back. And we've seen

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Speaker 1: football factories kind of evolve, and we've seen this kind

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Speaker 1: of thing before. I think that two coaches that were

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Speaker 1: at each other's throats last year and what those two

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Speaker 1: football teams do this year is maybe my most intriguing thing.

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Speaker 1: And I man, there's so many that I could go

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Speaker 1: with here, but for me, it's Alabama and A and M.

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01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: I want to know what Alabama's got this year, especially

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Speaker 1: compared to what we saw last year. Are they falling

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Speaker 1: further behind Georgia and are they now in danger of

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Speaker 1: falling behind somebody else within the same conference? And then

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Speaker 1: A and M? How is this going to work with Petrino?

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: And is Jimbo Fisher going to survive this? Are they

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Speaker 1: actually going to come out and perform the way A

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Speaker 1: and M fans hoped they would when they handed him

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Speaker 1: all that cash or is this going to go up

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: in flames? I think outside of just like individual stuff

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Speaker 1: like Heisman performances and you know, some other things, and

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Speaker 1: maybe even the Northwestern situation and things like that. I

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: think that's the most fascinating thing to me is Jimbo

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: and Nick Saban, two Titanic names, but Jimbo was really

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: an approve it year and Nick Saban's kind of at

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: a crossroads where we're gonna see how much longer he

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: feels like doing this. Not like they're gonna push him

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Speaker 1: out the door if they have another three last year

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Speaker 1: or something like that, but how much longer is he

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Speaker 1: gonna want to do this the way it's being constructed

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Speaker 1: and what the future of college football looks like.

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Speaker 2: Saban and Obama are always a topic, but it's really

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Speaker 2: interesting to me because like it can go one of

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Speaker 2: two ways. It can either continue to trend in the

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Speaker 2: wrong direction. But I do think there's a scenario and

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Speaker 2: it speaks to what Nick Saban did this offseason. He

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01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: has a new offensive coordinator, he has a new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: To your credit, you were on the Bill O'Brien, there's

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: something you just never liked the guy. I never try,

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: never personal, but you just didn't like who he was

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: and what he was about. And it took me a

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Speaker 2: little bit longer. But that offense was a mess last

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: year and the defense was a mess last year, and

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Speaker 2: he got back to the basics. They're gonna run the ball,

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna play defense, they're gonna be funded meal, and

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna put as much on the quarterback. It's

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: not gonna be on Bryce Young to save them every

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01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: single game like last year. And so I'm fascinating from them.

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Speaker 2: With Texas, A and M it goes absolutely, without question,

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: fascinating deal there one because Bobby Petrino is into call

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: plays two just if it if it goes bad again,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's gonna be obviously unprecedented in

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: terms of, you know, in terms of in terms of

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Speaker 2: what happens with Jimbo Fisher, in terms of the money

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Speaker 2: that he would have to be paid to not be

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Speaker 2: the head coach. And I do think that if you

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Speaker 2: go five and seven again with the roster that they have,

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Speaker 2: there are zero percent chances back next year for mine. Jason.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you one really quick, and then we'll come

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Speaker 2: back and we'll do more. You you mentioned two teams,

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Speaker 2: so I'll mention two Texas and Oklahoma yea, And I'll

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Speaker 2: just try to make this quick and toss it over

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 2: This isn't what's going on in the Pac twelve where

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Speaker 2: everybody's going their separate ways after this year. This is

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: Texas and Oklahoma leaving the Big Twelve for dead and

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve figuring out away without them, There's gonna

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: be hostile road environments. You know, as an exam you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to go. You know, Texas is gonna have

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Speaker 2: to go to some of these schools that they have

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Speaker 2: played for one hundred years that they are now leaving behind.

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Speaker 2: You have Oklahoma's gonna have to play at BYU, which

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Speaker 2: is now part of the Big Twelve in late November

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Speaker 2: when it could be twenty degrees outside. So there's just

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of hatred. It is

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Speaker 2: not the same as the Pac twelve. But then also

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Speaker 2: these are both teams that like they kind of have

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Speaker 2: to build some momentum going into the SEC and on

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Speaker 2: top of that, coaches that kind of need to be good. Yep,

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Speaker 2: sark Is in year three Venables had the worst season

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Speaker 2: basically of this century at Oklahoma. So floor is yours.

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Speaker 2: I went a little bit long there, but those two

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Speaker 2: and everything that is at stake is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: That look, that was the other one that was really

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: front of mine, Texas in particular, but adding Oklahoma to

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Speaker 1: the mix, both of them need to feel something positive

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Speaker 1: for their fan bases going into what they're going into

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Speaker 1: in the SEC. And I think that one storyline that

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Speaker 1: is going to be worth watching if it goes mediocre

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01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: or worse, especially in both those places. Really, but it

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01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: is possible, Aaron, and take this one into break. It

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: is possible that Oklahoma and Texas could start out in

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference with brand new head coaches, both of

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Speaker 1: them because Sarkisian can't afford to do this again. He

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Speaker 1: just can't, like this is this is the year where

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Speaker 1: it's got to turn around. It's not it's no longer funny.

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Speaker 1: It can't be a it can't be a punch line.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't know if venables can survive, you know,

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01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: a seven win year or something like that. Like things

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: have to look different because there's too many hot young

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: coaches out there who could be plucked, especially in this

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: world where there are a lot of teams that are

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Speaker 1: gonna and a lot of schools that are just not

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna be very relevant anymore because of the realignment that

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna make it even harder to hold on to

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: jobs in the short term. So I think that's a

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Speaker 1: good one. I'll tell you what. We'll come back with

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Speaker 1: more reaction. I want I have a couple thoughts on

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: that text. Oklahoma, what you said.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to some other college football stuff. We will

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Speaker 2: have games next Saturday. Cannot believe we are here. More

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Speaker 2: college football coming up. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: Before the break, we were talking college football a week

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: from today, week zero, just kind of rip it through

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: some of the biggest storylines in the sport. Jason and

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01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,919
Speaker 2: I talking about Texas and Oklahoma heading into their last years.

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: Jason brought up right before the break, if it goes sideways,

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01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: both those schools could, in theory be looking for a

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Speaker 2: new head coach heading into their first year in the

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: SEC Texas entering year three under Steve Sarksian Oklahoma coming

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Speaker 2: off a six and seven season under Brent Venables. I'll

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 2: say this, Jason, and I think I said this a

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, so it might I might have mentioned

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Speaker 2: this already, but I know it's just a there's two variables.

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01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 2: I understand we always over hyped Texas, and I understand

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: the idea that they actually are on paper the most

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: talented team in the Big Twelve, and in theory, when

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: you're the most talented team in a conference, you're probably

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Speaker 2: going to be picked to win it. With that said,

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Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised only because TCU won the

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: KA thing last year almost, you know, frankly almost won

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01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 2: a national championship, was one game away from winning a

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: national championship, Kansas State whatever. I guess the point I'm

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: trying to make, I just felt like we were at

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Speaker 2: the point where we were done giving Texas to benefit

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 2: of doubt. And then I'll take it a step further.

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Speaker 2: Steve Sarkishan I brought this up a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: He's never won more than eight regular season games in

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Speaker 2: a year. I think this is year ten for him

1439
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: as a head coach maybe year nine has never won

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: more than nine games total, including postseason bowl games. I

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01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: just bring it up to say, I get that it

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01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: is a natural reflection or reaction. I should say to

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: just assume, well, Texas has more talent, so we have

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01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: to put them at the top of the standings. I

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01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 2: was sort of like stunned that they were again picked

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: to win this conference.

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, and it will. This is rench repeat. It's

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: still Texas getting the benefit of being Texas. And it

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01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: gets back to my lament that these preseason polls gotta

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01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: go because it's going to create artificial hurdle for some

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: schools to have to climb that others don't have to.

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01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 1: Like there are some that don't have to leap frog anything,

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: and then there are others where things have to break

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: their way and they have to do these things to

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: prove themselves because they weren't deemed to be as good

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: to begin the year. I do think when I look

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: at Kansas State and TCU, if you get the Coach's

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01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,959
Speaker 1: poll and the top twenty five, they're flipped. They're sixteen

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: and seventeen respectively, one on top of the other in

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: each one. Like I know TCU lost Douggan and they

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01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: lost Johnson. I mean they lost some they lost a

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: lot of their raw offense. And maybe it's just we

1463
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: need to see this again. And the last impression we

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01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: saw at TCU was fraud because of what happened niggat Georgia.

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01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: Fair or unfair, that's that was the last impression that

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: we had. But there's nothing to indicate that Texas should

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: be good based on as you mentioned Sarkesian's coaching record.

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: There's plenty to like about yours. There's plenty to like

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: about the guys that they have on the field, But

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: until I see them put it together, I have a

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: hard time looking at them and saying, yeah, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be better than Utah? Are you kidding me? Like they're

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01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: ranked ahead of Utah. I know this is a different

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: scenario here, but Utah being fourteenth in Texas being eleventh

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01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: and twelfth maybe on talent, but is that all we're

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01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: looking at, Like it doesn't seem like it should be.

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: It seems like other things should be factored in here.

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: And I look at some of the schools that are

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Speaker 1: beneath them, It's like, well, I trust their coaches more

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01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: like would I be shocked if Old Miss had a

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01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: better year than Texas. No, not, really would I be

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: shocked certainly if Kansas City or TCU had a better

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: season than Texas. Absolutely not. There's a poll that's got Tennessee,

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: but I mean ap to twenty five has Tennessee below Texas.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say I think Hypel's probably gonna have a

1486
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: better year than sarkisian Is based on just the eye test.

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01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: I know Texas gets the benefit of the doubt, but

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01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: that's a that's an indictment on the pole as a whole,

1489
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 1: and at this point, I think Texas is a school

1490
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: that needs to have to leap frog people to earn

1491
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: its respect as opposed to be being given it just

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: because of the name on the front of the jersey.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you another one. How about this, we were

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01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: talking about the last year of Texas and Oklahoma in

1495
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. How about former Big twelve and future

1496
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: Big twelve school Colorado. Jason tweeted in as a Colorado fan,

1497
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time I was this excited

1498
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: for a football season. It may all come to an

1499
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: end September second, but coach Prime has his Louis of course,

1500
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: that's the reference to his opening press conference, packed up,

1501
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: and I am all in on him. I'll say that

1502
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: I think that's just as interesting of a story as

1503
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: anything in college football. You know, there's people that are like,

1504
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 2: think that they're going to be incredible, but could they overchief?

1505
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 2: Could they underachieve? The cool thing is we'll get to

1506
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 2: see it early, Jason. They open on Fox and back

1507
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 2: to back weeks at TCU in week one, hosting Nebraska

1508
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 2: in week two. We're going to find out really quickly

1509
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: what to expect from coach Prime and his team.

1510
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, quickly, exly. I know we got the top of

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01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: the hour, But that comment, I can't believe. I actually

1512
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: kind of forgot that. I mean, I've been thinking about

1513
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: coach Prime a lot during the offseasons.

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01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: Been quiet the last couple weeks. Since that's true, Yeah.

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01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: That's true. I just I can't wait to see it.

1516
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what it looks like. I

1517
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: can't tell you what I think it's gonna be because

1518
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: I just have no idea, especially in year one, but

1519
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: I am fascinated to watch it, no question about it.

1520
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 1: That's gonna be must sy stuff.

1521
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about it when he got hired,

1522
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: but anybody who thinks it's just for show. Very successful

1523
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: at Jackson State, brings his son Shador with him, who's

1524
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 2: the legitimate NFL draft prospect. They did good in the portal,

1525
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 2: but when you're turning over literally ninety percent of your roster,

1526
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: it's hard to know exactly what to expect from coach

1527
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 2: Prime Dion Sanders in Colorado, but I am fascinated again

1528
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: their opener against TCU Big noon kickoff two weeks from today,

1529
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: Jason Week two against Nebraska and again week zero next week.

1530
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aer tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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01:19:55,240 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 2: the ti Raq dot com studios, eleven NFL game on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to react to you

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Speaker 2: games today as we record here or chat here a

1544
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: little bit after midnight Eastern Vegas versus the Rams is

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 2: set to go final under a minute to go, as

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Speaker 2: de Segre just told you, Vegas up thirty four seventeen,

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01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboy in Seattle, Seahawks playing a late one in Seattle.

1548
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: Seattle up seventeen to fourteen. In total, eleven games today, Jason,

1549
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: And here's the bottom line. I just want to rip

1550
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: through a few of them. Don't want to spend a

1551
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: ton of time. We all know that the preseason every

1552
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: single year seemingly becomes less meaningless. But on a night

1553
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: like tonight, where two thirds of the league was on

1554
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: the field, and different teams take different approaches to who's

1555
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: playing and how often they're playing and all that, there

1556
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: was some stuff to take out. And I want to

1557
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: start with the Indianapolis Colts, which maybe the first time

1558
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: that's ever been set on Fox Sports Radio since the

1559
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: day Andrew Luck retired. But I want to start with

1560
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts because it's a very interesting deal with them.

1561
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: Is that we live in this world where we understand

1562
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: again the preseason less and less important as years go on.

1563
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: But why the Colts are so interesting to me this

1564
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: evening is because of the fact that they chose to

1565
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: sit Anthony Richardson their starting quarterback. Now, in it of itself,

1566
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: that's not that shocking. Starting quarterbacks are sit pretty regularly

1567
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: in the preseason Matthew Stafford. I saw him in a

1568
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: T shirt about two minutes ago in this Rams game.

1569
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: But it's also interesting from a different perspective is that

1570
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: last night, number one pick in the draft, Bryce Young,

1571
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: or rookie quarterback, was taking snaps with the first team

1572
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: for the Carolina Panthers tonight in a loss to the

1573
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Houston Texans. Number two overall pick CJ. Stroud

1574
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:39,919
Speaker 2: was taking snaps under center for the Houston Texas. Patrick Mahomes,

1575
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 2: by the way, took play through fifteen passes today. Jordan Love,

1576
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback that needs reps, got them tonight as

1577
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: the starter for the Green Bay Packers. I guess I

1578
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: am a little shock, Jason that Anthony Richardson, who has

1579
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 2: not even figuratively but literally some of the least experience

1580
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: ever for a early round, first round quarterback that is

1581
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: now going to be given the keys to the team

1582
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: in Week one. Kind of shocked that he didn't take

1583
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: the field tonight.

1584
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: Chase. Yeah, so my Again, when I first saw it,

1585
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: I was watching the game, like, where is the wise

1586
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: Minshew in there? Maybe he's gonna come in after Minshew

1587
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: even though he was named the starter a few days ago,

1588
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: or maybe he's hurt, Like I don't really understand past

1589
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: that what's going on. I will say that the Indie Star,

1590
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: the I Guess publication of record Indianapolis, has put out

1591
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: a report of the last little bit saying, look, he

1592
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: had hand old seventy plus first team snaps against the

1593
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: Bears on Wednesday and Thursday. So because of that, they

1594
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: held him out of this game, and the fact that

1595
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Richardson was a rookie didn't change the decision making process.

1596
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,480
Speaker 1: So we got a ton of snaps in the joint practices.

1597
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: You will hear from a number of players, and I've

1598
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: heard from many that the joint practices are much more

1599
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: valuable than the preseason game. And I said to you earlier, Look,

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01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: if that's the case, if Anthony Richardson, if a guy

1601
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: like him in his first year, somebody that had a

1602
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: fifty five percent completion percentage in thirteen games. The fifty

1603
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: five percent completion percentage is the lowest for a first

1604
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: round quarterback since Jake Locker in twenty eleven, and the

1605
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: thirteen starts is the lowest end years and years and

1606
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: years for a first round draft pick much longer than

1607
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. You look at all of that. If that

1608
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,440
Speaker 1: guy can't benefit from preseason reps, then cancel the preseason.

1609
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: Just do the joint practices, and let's stop this now.

1610
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: I know while we're doing this, we're not doing it

1611
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: because it's great for the guys on the field. We're

1612
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: doing it because it's great for the venues and these

1613
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: organizations to have, you know, season ticket holders forced to

1614
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: also have to buy these tickets, sit in these seats,

1615
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: go to these games. All of that. There's revenue to

1616
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 1: be made here, there's an entertainment product, even if the

1617
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: entertainment is not that great during the preseason. But if

1618
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: Richardson can't benefit from being in there when we know

1619
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: how badly he needs live reps because he's as raw

1620
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: as raw gets for a first round prospect at this point,

1621
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: and somebody who's the potential is through the roof. But

1622
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: you got to realize that, and to realize that, Aaron,

1623
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: you got to be out there. You got to be

1624
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: taking those lumps. You got to be acclimating to the

1625
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: NFL speed, to the NFL game, acclimating just to your

1626
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: own head coach and how he's calling plays and game situations,

1627
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: all of those kinds of things. If he can't benefit,

1628
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: then the preseason is officially useless when it comes to

1629
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: these games, and it needs to be put out to pasture.

1630
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: I agree, and I get the value of the joint

1631
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: practice behind the scenes. I really do understand that. I

1632
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: also do think there is something to be said for

1633
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: stepping out, you know, in the arena in front of

1634
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: sixty seventy eighty ninety thousand people. However many it is,

1635
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: some in your jersey, some in the opposing jury and

1636
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: live game reps with guys coming at you in opposing uniforms.

1637
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: I was surprised that he did not start and did

1638
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: not did not play. Let me put it that way.

1639
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 2: Even if it's a series or two, you know that again,

1640
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: if Patrick Mahomes can do it, if whoever fill in

1641
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: the blank, whatever, Jordan Love had to do it today.

1642
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: Whatever I do think it is a little bit of

1643
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: a missed opportunity from the from the Indianapolis Colts. I

1644
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: know Shane Steichen's one of the young guys. He's an

1645
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: offensive guy. I get it. I think they made a

1646
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 2: mistake not playing him at all really quickly. Want to

1647
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: go through some other stuff, Jason. You know one one

1648
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 2: thing we did not talk about earlier in the show,

1649
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: but the San Francisco forty nine ers took the field

1650
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: today and in their first preseason game, there was no

1651
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Brock party, but tonight there was Brock perty got meaningful

1652
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: snaps early in the game and then he was followed

1653
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: by Sam Arnold, who threw fourteen passes eleven to fourteen

1654
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 2: for one hundred nine yards in one touchdown. I bring

1655
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: it up because the third guy off the bench that

1656
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: didn't get in the game until the second half is

1657
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 2: the former number three overall pick in Trey Lance. I'll

1658
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: just ask you, you know, we get Brock Birdy, mister

1659
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 2: irrelevant did was was phenomenal, like like two parts. It

1660
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,839
Speaker 2: feels like it's probably time to give up on Trey Lance.

1661
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: As the San Francisco forty nine Ers quarterback, a guy

1662
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 2: that was drafted a year after him seems to have

1663
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 2: a stranglehold on this thing if you know, he recovers

1664
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: from surgery and all that. But if you're now the

1665
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 2: third stringer and you can't work under Kyle Shanahan, one

1666
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: of the most gifted guys at figuring it out with

1667
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 2: different quarterbacks, I don't I don't want to give up

1668
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 2: on a guy that has like one start that went

1669
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 2: for like a half last year before he got hurt.

1670
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 2: But it kind of feels like if it's not gonna

1671
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: work under this situation, it's hard for me to see, like, oh,

1672
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't work out, so let's send them to wherever

1673
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: next year and it's magically gonna work if he gets

1674
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: another opportunity. How worried should we be about just Trey

1675
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: Lance the dude?

1676
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly as a football player in his future,

1677
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: it's time to sound the alarms. And we talked about

1678
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: this prior to that draft, and this is not and

1679
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,799
Speaker 1: I told you so in any way, I just didn't

1680
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: get it.

1681
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: Me too.

1682
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why we were talking about Trey Lance

1683
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: the way we were. And I don't mean you and me.

1684
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean the country, the NFL experts, the scouts. I

1685
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: don't know how many of them I talk to and

1686
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: to lead up to his rookie season, and I would

1687
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: just say, is Trey Lance really that good?

1688
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 6: Like?

1689
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: What are you basing it on? Oh man, He's gonna

1690
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: be incredible. He's the one that I really really buy

1691
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: into here based on what like, he didn't play a

1692
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: whole lot COVID happened, he didn't have much experience, and

1693
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: then he came into the NFL, and it's just like,

1694
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you can feel so comfortable about

1695
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Trey Lance in this spot. Now. I don't mean the

1696
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, I mean everybody that seemingly covered the league.

1697
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: Just they just kept saying Trey Lance was going to

1698
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: be special, and it just never made sense to me.

1699
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: And it still doesn't. And I hate that. I wanted

1700
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: them to be right, because I wanted to see what

1701
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: they saw. But I've been out on this from the beginning,

1702
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: and in terms of Trey Lance's future, you can't look

1703
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: at it and feel particularly good about it, especially considering

1704
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: what you just said. Dude. I mean, Kyle Shanahan has

1705
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: won with everybody at quarterback anybody, dudes that are playing tonight.

1706
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Nick Mallins is playing tonight. He won with Nick Maullins. Yeah,

1707
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: he's one with like crazy guys at quarterback, just names

1708
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: that you just would never think of. But nothing ever

1709
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: happened with Trey Lance. Not to mention he was hurt

1710
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: almost immediate, didn't get that much action. And then you

1711
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: said the guy that was drafted the year after him, Yeah,

1712
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: he was drafted. That guy was sitting there with the

1713
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: final pick YEP in the NFL draft. Everybody else. No,

1714
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how many quarterbacks were taken before him,

1715
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: and he was just there and they took him at

1716
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: the last pick, and he took the job from the

1717
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: guy that you took where you took him. You they

1718
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: moved up in the draft to take Trey Lance. And

1719
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: I have said a lot of positive things about Kyle Shanahan,

1720
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: deservedly so he's earned them, but this this is a

1721
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: bit of a stain on him and on John Lynch.

1722
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be all right, and I think

1723
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: that party's gonna be okay, But the Lance thing, I

1724
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: don't see this working. I don't think a change of

1725
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: scenery is gonna change I just think they missed, And

1726
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: by they, I mean a whole heck of a lot

1727
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: of people inside that building but also outside of it

1728
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: to talk about and covered this for a cover, this

1729
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: league for a living. A whole lot of people missed it.

1730
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: And I just kind of sit back and I was

1731
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: just like, I wanted to see what you saw. Yeah,

1732
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: and I still haven't seen it, and I'm not sure

1733
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: you did either.

1734
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Well, it's so funny, right, And this doesn't have to

1735
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: do necessarily with tonight, but you know, we're kind of

1736
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 2: recapping eleven games throughout the night. But let me just

1737
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: say this I hear all the time. Oh, it's just

1738
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: it's evaluating quarterbacks is just impossible. And like I do

1739
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: think to a large degree, there is some variable of

1740
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 2: that nobody could have expected, as you said, the guy

1741
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 2: that was sitting there in the last pick of the

1742
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: draft to go whatever, six seven and zero last year

1743
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 2: leading into the NFC Championship game.

1744
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

1745
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 2: At the same time, I do think that we do

1746
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: overthink it quite a bit with some of these guys,

1747
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: and we've been over all of it, so I don't

1748
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: need to relitigate everything. But Zach Wilson, his year first

1749
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: of all, undersized, played at a school where he had

1750
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 2: one good year, the final year when he lay zero

1751
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: Power Conference teams. I'm sorry, but you can understand why

1752
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: that was a whiff. Trey Lance did not play for

1753
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 2: a year and a half because his entire season got canceled.

1754
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Not his fault, but again, all of the things you

1755
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: laid out, Anthony Richardson. Maybe it's gonna work and we

1756
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: all root for him. He's also, as you said, one

1757
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: of the statistically worst quarterbacks to ever be taken as

1758
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 2: high in the draft as he was. Whatever the stat was,

1759
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: he said, a lowest completion percentage for a first rounder

1760
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 2: since Jake Locker in twenty eleven. So yes, and oh,

1761
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: by the way, there's the opposite two, Trevor Lawrence. It's

1762
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 2: really hard to see him missing. Joe Burrow. It's really

1763
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 2: hard to see him missing. You know, we do this thing.

1764
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: Oh you just you never know what these guys it's like, No,

1765
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: sometimes you actually do kind of know. And whether it's

1766
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: the group think echo chamber, whether it's you think you're

1767
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: the smartest person in the room, whatever it is, I

1768
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 2: don't even know where I'm trying to go with this.

1769
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 2: Jason and I'm not saying that anybody bats a thousand

1770
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: on this stuff, but like this idea that, oh, it's

1771
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 2: just so hard to evaluate quarterbacks. No, I don't know.

1772
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 2: How about the small guy that played against bad competition.

1773
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna bet on that guy. And the guy

1774
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 2: that didn't play for a year and a half, and

1775
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: when he did, he played against lower level competition. It's

1776
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: probably going to take him a while to figure it

1777
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 2: out if he ever does period.

1778
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, if this has been a four year starter,

1779
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: three year starter exactly and all that, and he played

1780
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: all those games, I might have felt differently and we

1781
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: probably would have heard about him a lot sooner. But

1782
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: when people started talking about Trey Lance, I admit, look,

1783
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of college football. I care about

1784
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: this a lot. We both do. I know who that

1785
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: dude was. I had no idea, And it's just but

1786
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't that you didn't know at all, But it

1787
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: was like, why are we talking about him in the

1788
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: top five? What are we doing? Where did this come from?

1789
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: And I felt the same way about Zach Wilson. We

1790
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 1: knew who Zack Wilson was, but when I watched him,

1791
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: I didn't see the number two pick in the draft

1792
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: at all, and well, he hasn't performed like that. When

1793
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: it came to Lance, it just seemed to be a

1794
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: chorus of wait until this guy changes the NFL. And man,

1795
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to see it because it sounded really exciting.

1796
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: It sounded like a movie. I wanted to go pay

1797
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: and get a ticket to and go watch, and it

1798
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: felt like it was going to be sold out, so

1799
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I'd better get there early. But I wanted to sit

1800
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: back and watch it, and it just didn't. It just

1801
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: wasn't there and it still isn't there. And even the

1802
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: stuff that you've heard, like over the last couple of

1803
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: seasons from camp about just stuff would leak out where

1804
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: it's just why did this get out? And who who

1805
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: put this out? Because it doesn't sound very good and

1806
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: it just again, I just don't think it's going to work.

1807
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: I don't think this is one of those oh well,

1808
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: he's going to end up in a great spot in

1809
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: this next team. I just don't see it. I think

1810
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: that this guy got hyped to the moon. He made

1811
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: a decision that we all would have made in the moment,

1812
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: but he wasn't ready and he's never going to have

1813
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: the chance to be what maybe he could have been.

1814
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea, because he wasn't. He didn't play

1815
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: enough football before the NFL to actually have a chance

1816
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: to really ever do anything in the NFL.

1817
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 2: This might be an exercise for like next you know, July,

1818
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 2: when we have nothing to do. I would love to

1819
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 2: go through all thirty two NFL starting quarterbacks and basically

1820
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 2: figure out how many guys are just aren't who we

1821
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 2: thought they were coming in. There are a few, There

1822
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 2: are a few. Dak Is obviously one. Jalen Hurts is one,

1823
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: and credit to those guys for proving us all wrong.

1824
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 2: There also are a lot of guys, like I said,

1825
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 2: like a Trey Lance, like a Zach Wilson, like a

1826
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Love who is kind of on the clock. And oh,

1827
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 2: by the way, even like a Mac Jones. We all

1828
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 2: kind of we're all like, oh, evaluating quarterbacks is so hard.

1829
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: It's like, no, Mac Jones is probably a guy that's

1830
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 2: he'll be good, but you know the ceiling is pretty low,

1831
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: but he won't be terrible. It's like most of these

1832
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 2: guys are kind of who we expect them to be

1833
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 2: if you don't overthink it.

1834
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: So fun.

1835
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Speaker 2: Rant On, you know the idea that quarterback evaluation is

1836
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Speaker 2: just it's rocket science. I'm sorry, it's not. We don't

1837
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Speaker 2: on in sports right now that neither you nor I

1865
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Speaker 2: saw coming. But we went a little bit long that

1866
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,000
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1867
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1868
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:01,880
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1869
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 2: about that. Say your four as yours, my friend, guys.

1870
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: I'll get to football in a moment.

1871
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 5: We have talked about how incredible this week at the

1872
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 5: plate Julio Rodriguez Mariners All Star has been. This stat

1873
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 5: from MLB Spanish language reporter Hector Gomez in the last

1874
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,759
Speaker 5: four games. Julio Rodriguez has seventeen hits in the last

1875
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 5: four games. The Yankees as a team have seventeen hits

1876
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 5: on Boeve. That's how good he has been.

1877
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Now.

1878
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 5: There is one late game among the many NFL exhibitions

1879
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,440
Speaker 5: tonight at Seattle. It's early fourth quarter and the Seahawks

1880
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 5: are leading the Dallas Cowboys seventeen to fourteen. But the Cowboys'

1881
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:41,440
Speaker 5: third round linebacker Demarvin Overshawn was hurt tonight a reported

1882
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 5: ACL injury, but they're having an MRI. Meanwhile, Las Vegas

1883
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 5: two and zero in the games that don't count. They

1884
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 5: beat the Rams, who are zero to two, thirty four

1885
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 5: to seventeen, the final Raiders at over three hundred and

1886
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 5: forty yards passing in that same stadium. Tomorrow night in

1887
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 5: LA the Chargers still due to host New Orleans, even

1888
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 5: though they had joint practices on Thursday, Friday already in

1889
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 5: southern California, so many starters might be sitting anyway. But

1890
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 5: tropical storm going to be arriving in southern California in

1891
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 5: the morning rain through Monday morning. In fact, Sunday seven

1892
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 5: pm Eastern time is the kickoff rain and twenty mile

1893
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 5: an hour winds due to be outside the stadium. Currently,

1894
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 5: it is still Hurricane Hillary that's approaching California. It's about

1895
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 5: five hundred miles south of San Diego. It has weakened

1896
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 5: to a Category one hurricane. But the floodwatches are in

1897
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 5: effect in southern California, in Arizona and certainly southern Nevada

1898
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 5: is looking at this Already evacuation orders listed for parts

1899
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 5: of San Bernardino County in southern California. So that's the

1900
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 5: backdrop to tomorrow night's exhibition. We had a night full

1901
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 5: of NFL exhibitions and we will get details through all

1902
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 5: of them, time permitting, in about fifteen minutes. A lot

1903
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 5: to get to. We have talked a lot on Saturday

1904
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 5: nights about the great season of the Braves. MVP candidate

1905
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 5: Ronald Acunya and twenty eighth homer of the season tonight,

1906
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 5: batting over three point thirty. This year, Braves have won

1907
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 5: five in a row. They beat San Francisco on a

1908
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 5: late homer six to five. MLB dot Com pointed out

1909
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 5: that Acunya has a chance to be in the exclusive

1910
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 5: forty forty club this year. That is forty homers and

1911
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 5: forty stolen bases in the same season. He's leading the

1912
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 5: majors in stolen bases with fifty five at the moment,

1913
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 5: so actually he's on pace for over thirty homers and

1914
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 5: over seventy steals. That combination has never happened in Major

1915
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,839
Speaker 5: League history. The Dodgers, in advance of the Storm tomorrow,

1916
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 5: played a doubleheader today and sweat Miami three to one

1917
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 5: in the opener with three runs bottom of the eighth

1918
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 5: and three to one in the nightcap, two solo homers

1919
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 5: for Mookie Betts. Arizona played two in San Diego in

1920
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 5: advance of the Storm. No game there tomorrow, six '

1921
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 5: four in the opener, and then Arizona completed this sweep

1922
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 5: with an eight to one final beating you darbish in

1923
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 5: the nightcap. And in Anaheim, the Angels and Rays split

1924
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 5: two seven to six Angels in the opener, but it

1925
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 5: was eighteen to four Tampa Bay winning the nightcaps. So

1926
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 5: the Yankees and Angels are each eight games back at

1927
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 5: the final Al Wildcard. I think we can officially write

1928
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 5: down in pen that the Angels and Yankees are not

1929
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 5: going to the playoffs. Yankees lost their seventh game in

1930
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 5: a row. Boston has absolutely owned them this year. Beat

1931
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 5: them up on FS one today eight to one, and

1932
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 5: the loss was to Garrett Cole. He lasted four innings,

1933
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 5: allowed a grand slam and a two run homer.

1934
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve the Saga,

1935
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Tours Jason Martin

1936
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. So said

1937
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 2: earlier a phenomenon going on in sports right now that I,

1938
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 2: frankly Jason just did not see coming. And I'll say this,

1939
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of backstory, but this past week

1940
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough to travel, get away, spend some

1941
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 2: time with my family, all that good stuff. Hope everybody

1942
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 2: has had a chance to spend time with their loved

1943
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 2: ones these last couple You know, whatever point I'm trying

1944
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 2: to make as I'm traveling in airports in the hotel,

1945
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: I think it was what Tuesday, Wednesday night, whatever it was,

1946
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: the MLS is going on with Messi's team Inner Miami,

1947
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: who de Segre talked about earlier in the show. I

1948
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 2: bring it up because as that game was going on,

1949
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 2: I'm walking around the hotel and keep in mind, unfortunately

1950
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 2: the hotel bar could not get the game. People were

1951
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 2: not happy because they wanted to watch MESSI but obviously

1952
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 2: the Apple TVD or whatever. But even just in the

1953
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: hotel saw two, three, four messy jerseys, those pink ones,

1954
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 2: the new ones all that. I gotta be honest. And

1955
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: by the way, I was watching tonight when he was

1956
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:46,839
Speaker 2: playing in your hometown of Nashville, and when he scored

1957
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 2: that goal, there was a lot of Nashville yellow, but

1958
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: there was a lot of pink in there as well.

1959
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 2: I am blown away. Like we have had older superstars

1960
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 2: come in to this league before, most notably the owner

1961
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 2: of the Miami squad, David Beckham. We have been told

1962
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 2: for years that certain things are going to change the

1963
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 2: MLS and perception of soccer in general in the United States.

1964
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: I am stunned at how big this messy thing has gotten,

1965
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 2: how much it means to so many people, and the

1966
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 2: fact that it has made as big of an impact

1967
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: as it is. There isn't very much in sports these days, Jason,

1968
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 2: that shocks me. I'll be blunt, I was wrong on

1969
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 2: this one. This one has been stunning to me.

1970
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I tend to agree because we talked about

1971
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: it before the show, and you kind of brought it

1972
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 1: up and I thought the same thing, Like when it happened,

1973
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: it was just this is a this is what the

1974
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: David Beckham thing could have been in terms of if

1975
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't like kind of the victory tour for Beckham,

1976
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't coming in to be still one of

1977
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: the great players in the world. He was kind of

1978
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: already he had already been there and done that. He

1979
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: was coming here and he was still going to be

1980
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:00,560
Speaker 1: good for the league, but it isn't going to be

1981
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: the same. We knew what MESSI was, and we talked

1982
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 1: about how many followers he had on social media and

1983
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: how crazy it was that he was at a publix

1984
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: and you know, all of that kind of thing. But

1985
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 1: the way the country has responded to this has led

1986
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 1: me to kind of look at it and just say,

1987
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: all right, so what can soccer be? Because I've always

1988
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: been kind of the guy that says, nah, when every

1989
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: four years soccer is about to overtake this sport of

1990
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: that sport and become super important to the mass public.

1991
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't mean to the big soccer heads, but I

1992
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 1: mean actually pulling in new fans and of course, now

1993
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: in Nashville, we have Nashville SC which is where that

1994
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: matchup took place earlier tonight, and the support here is

1995
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: great and those games are sold out most of the time.

1996
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,480
Speaker 1: It's a great experience. It's a state of the art facility,

1997
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: it's the right size. There's a lot of Nashville SC

1998
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: stuff on the roads, on people's cars on a regular

1999
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: basis all the time. I got a couple of magnets

2000
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: on my refrigerator. Matter of fact, I think the question

2001
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: is this, we can now look at this and say,

2002
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,520
Speaker 1: this is a huge success for Miami, for the MLS,

2003
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: for the sport as a whole, especially here in America. Now,

2004
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: what do you do to capitalize on this more? Because yeah,

2005
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: you have messy but now what like, what do you

2006
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: do with that? Do you have a league or do

2007
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 1: you have a player? You have a couple of markets

2008
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: that care about their teams locally, but how do you

2009
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: grow it from there? And it has to be if

2010
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 1: this could lead to other folks coming over, that could

2011
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 1: be a start. The other thing that happens is when

2012
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: you have someone that's transcendent. If the league around it

2013
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: is competitive, you've got a messy but if you've got

2014
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: some other guys that could be burgeoning stars that people

2015
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: don't know about in the country. If you're watching for Messi,

2016
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: but hey man, that guy's pretty good. It all kind

2017
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: of works in tandem. There's a synergy to it. WWE

2018
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: reference would be right now. They're doing incredible business. The

2019
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns bloodline storyline over the last three years has

2020
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 1: brought people in to watch that storyline. And while they've

2021
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: been watching that storyline and been transfixed by that soap opera,

2022
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: they've caught onto the brilliance of La Knight or Seth Rollins,

2023
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 1: or guys that maybe they thought were a certain level

2024
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 1: of star, but they had they were, you know, laps fans.

2025
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: They had gone away for a couple of years, and

2026
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 1: now they've come back and those guys are becoming household names,

2027
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 1: and some of the newer guys are becoming household names,

2028
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, everybody is kind of rising together.

2029
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 1: So my question is, okay, total success, right now, what

2030
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: do you do with this to actually create something lasting?

2031
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: Because eventually Messi's not going to be there? What do

2032
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: you do while he's here?

2033
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 2: Well, two quick thoughts, and I do want to bring

2034
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,560
Speaker 2: in Chris here momentarily because Chris is our side, me too,

2035
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: but that was my exact thought. You said something early

2036
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 2: on in that and I don't even necessarily remember what

2037
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 2: it was, but I remember thinking, is this a moment

2038
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: for the MLS? Like is this an MLS thing? Or

2039
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 2: is it a messy thing?

2040
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 5: Like?

2041
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 2: Is it just a thing where we are watching because

2042
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 2: of this one guy? And when this one guy leaves,

2043
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 2: it's back to the drawing boarder, back to whatever. My

2044
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 2: only real thought on this is that I would say this,

2045
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, how do you elevate others? And I

2046
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: was thinking about this today, really thinking about again being

2047
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: at that hotel bar, seeing two three people walking around

2048
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 2: in a messy jersey. My father in law mad that

2049
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 2: he can't watch the game. We find somebody with a

2050
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 2: computer so that he can watch it. Somebody in the

2051
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 2: lobby was watching on a computer, and we asked if

2052
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 2: my father in law could join him, because everybody wanted

2053
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 2: to watch the game. This is what I was thinking, though.

2054
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 2: The only comparison I can make to this that I

2055
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 2: remember from my childhood, and I want to tell I

2056
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 2: want you to tell me really quick, Jason, if you

2057
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 2: think this is hyperbole. When I was a kid, basically

2058
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 2: everybody had their team with their favorite player in the NBA,

2059
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: but they were also Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan fans.

2060
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Like this was early on in the Jordan phenomenon, but

2061
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 2: like everybody loved Michael Jordan. And we've talked Michael Jordan

2062
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 2: plenty the last couple of years with the Last Dance,

2063
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 2: but like he was so popular and it was like, Okay,

2064
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 2: you were a whatever, a Sonics fan. Maybe that's a

2065
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: bad example because they played in the finals, but you

2066
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: were a Spurs fan and you love David Robinson, but

2067
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 2: you also you also had that Chicago Bulls shirt with

2068
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 2: you had the Michael Jordan jersey, or you watch Jordan.

2069
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I just remember as a kid, just everybody

2070
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: loved Michael Jordan. It was almost like you had your

2071
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,839
Speaker 2: favorite team, but you also had Jordan and the Bulls.

2072
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 2: That's what I feel like with Messi. Like you said

2073
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 2: local fans whatever, but there were a lot of people

2074
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 2: in Nashville that showed up specifically to watch MESSI team,

2075
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 2: oh no doubt. And so that's the comparison to me

2076
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 2: is like I just remember, like everybody had their team

2077
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 2: but they also kind of followed and sort of rooted

2078
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 2: for the Bulls. Does that seem fair or is that

2079
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 2: overly hyperbolic on my part?

2080
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: No, I think that is fair. I think that either

2081
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: they rooted for the Bulls or they rooted against them

2082
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: for some reason, but the Bulls brought in their attention

2083
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: either way, like it didn't matter. There are some look,

2084
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: I actually think that is somewhat true for like the

2085
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys or something like there's a reason why they

2086
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: called them America's team, right, Like, I mean, I'm a

2087
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 1: Broncos fan, but nobody ad met when the.

2088
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys really hates like Inner Milant or Inner Miami. They

2089
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 2: just what that's I mean, yeah, that's true.

2090
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just talking about the audience, the number

2091
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: that's being brought in. But yeah, you're right, like like right,

2092
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: there's a huge contingent. Like I told you of Nashville

2093
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 1: SC fans. Here, we know what Seattle is, and we

2094
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 1: know some of these markets Atlanta and things that have

2095
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: done so well with MLS. I won't lie. If you

2096
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: can get a ticket to go see MESSI while also

2097
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: seeing your favorite team, that's pretty phenomenal. Like here's a

2098
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: good example of it Angels playing the Braves. I'm a

2099
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: Braves fan, and Braves obviously are awesome. If I get

2100
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 1: a chance to see Otani, that's perfect. Like it's it's

2101
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 1: kind of similar in that way. There's not really a

2102
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: reason to hate show Hey Otani. There's not anybody out

2103
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 1: there that's going to hate on them or on him specifically.

2104
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: The chance to see that is special, and so maybe

2105
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm more app to even get a ticket and make

2106
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 1: a drive because I get two birds with one stone here.

2107
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 1: If you're a soccer fan and you get to see Messy,

2108
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 1: but even if you're not a soccer fan, you eventually

2109
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 1: get to tell somebody in your family, your kids, your grandkids,

2110
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:38,879
Speaker 1: I saw him in person.

2111
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 2: Well yeah, the last thing I made the mistake of

2112
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 2: not drawing the analogy together, because the point I was

2113
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 2: trying to make with Michael Jordan that I never made,

2114
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 2: shame on me, was that I do think he elevated

2115
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 2: the entire sport, brought people in that woon'tn't normally watch,

2116
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 2: and then you fall in love with the Reggie Miller,

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Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, whomever, perfet really quick. We got about a minute.

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Speaker 2: But you're mister soccer, is this as surprising soccer? Are you? Like, like,

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Speaker 2: are you surprised? Are you not surprised? What do you

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Speaker 2: make of the Messi ex I'm not surprised by Messi.

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Speaker 2: I think this conversation is really fascinating. I agree with

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Speaker 2: I agree with Jason that this is very much a

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Speaker 2: Jordan effect. The problem where.

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Speaker 7: Jason, that was my point with both of you on

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Speaker 7: that point. But like I think where it starts to

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Speaker 7: fray is that unlike the NBA, the MLS isn't the

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Speaker 7: only league in the world, and by all means they're

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Speaker 7: not even the biggest, not by a long shot. I

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Speaker 7: know Lionel Messi one of his comments this week was

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Speaker 7: that he thinks that before the World Cup comes here

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six, that MLS can catch up with

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Speaker 7: the European leagues, you know, the Premier League in England,

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Speaker 7: La Liga in Spain, Bundesliga in Germany. But I think

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Speaker 7: to do that you can't just have Messi. You have

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Speaker 7: to go these leagues, have to go and invest and

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Speaker 7: start targeting young stars that are right now playing in Europe,

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01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 7: like Earling Hall and to Erasmus Hoylands probably not going

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Speaker 7: to get imbape. He's got his site set on Real Madrid.

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Speaker 7: But like those are big names, names you've seen play

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Speaker 7: in the FIFA World Cup. You want those names over here,

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Speaker 7: Marcus Rashford, Harry Kane, these are guys you could go after,

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Speaker 7: because I think what Messi has done is that he's

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Speaker 7: proven that this isn't a retirement league. This isn't a

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Speaker 7: league where you go and get one last contract that

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01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 7: you can come over here, enjoy life in America and

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Speaker 7: steal the spotlight with a lot of these teams. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 7: right now, there's one problem for MLS and that they

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Speaker 7: have a salary cap. They have a salary cap. They

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Speaker 7: have rules that designate three players that are not part

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Speaker 7: of their salary cap. But if you want to be

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Speaker 7: serious about soccer and bringing those stars over, you're going

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Speaker 7: to have to spend to compete with Manchester City and

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Speaker 7: Bayern Munich and Real Madrid who have very, very very

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Speaker 7: deep pocketbooks. But I think it can be done. But

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Speaker 7: what you've got right now with Messi is a spark

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Speaker 7: of lightning and you just need to keep fanning those

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Speaker 7: wins right now, because I think it is different right now.

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Speaker 7: I last year there was already more average attendance in

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Speaker 7: MLS than in NBA games. Now there's more NBA games total,

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Speaker 7: but like you're still looking at and even Atlanta United

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Speaker 7: have average like thirty thousand people per match. You can capture.

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Speaker 2: Thus, Yeah, the last thought is that I do think

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Speaker 2: there is something to that, and something I've said for

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Speaker 2: years is the reason I don't think the MLS will

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Speaker 2: ever get as big as people think. Americans want to

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Speaker 2: see the best in whatever they do. We'll me be

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Speaker 2: number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well look here there're one other quick thing. I know,

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Speaker 1: we got to get a break, and we got Saga

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Speaker 1: and everything. But here's the difference. When you took me

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Speaker 1: the Jordan analogy. There was a sport before Jordan. There

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Speaker 1: was a basketball in this country before Jordan. That was

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Speaker 1: super relevant.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You had a Wilt, you had Algim Baylor, you had

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Speaker 1: all these guys that had come before. You had Bill Russell,

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Speaker 1: you had John Halichak, you had all these guys in soccer.

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Speaker 1: For the vast majority of the sports watching public, you

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Speaker 1: didn't have a sport. You haven't had a sport yet,

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01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: so there's nothing else to look back on. There was

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Speaker 1: already added equity built into the fact that basketball existed

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Speaker 1: prior to Michael Jordan. You brought in a new audience.

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Speaker 1: But in this it's almost like this is a d

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01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: zero with Messi here, What do you do from here?

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01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Because everything that came before this just feels like the

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Speaker 1: forward to the actual book. If indeed you're going to

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Speaker 1: try and make this into something.

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Speaker 2: Now, it makes perfect sense and it will be interesting

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Speaker 2: to see. Do they have a dynamic, you know, once

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Speaker 2: in a generation superstar or do can they build off it?

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01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 2: Do they have a league when Messi ends up?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Stepping aside Fox Sports Radio erintors Jason Martin, as we

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Speaker 2: just said, uh, twelve forty five Eastern every Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: we do bring into Sager. He's coming up next and

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Speaker 2: he's got a lot on a busy weekend in sports

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Speaker 2: and some games that won't be played tomorrow. We explain

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Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: as we do every Sunday morning late Saturday, depending on

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Speaker 2: where you are. News Desk to Saga extended update. The

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Speaker 2: floor is.

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Speaker 1: Yours, guys.

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Speaker 5: We have an update from the New England Patriots on

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Speaker 5: their injury to the young quarterback Isaiah Bolden tonight. He

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Speaker 5: will be held overnight at a local hospital in Green

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01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 5: Bay for observation and they will update his condition in

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Speaker 5: the morning. This exhibition at Green Bay was called after

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Speaker 5: the injury. With about ten minutes to go, the New

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Speaker 5: England defensive back Bolden was knocked out in a collision

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01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 5: and eventually stretchered off. New England won the game for

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01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 5: what it's worth twenty one seventeen quarterback Bailey Zappi one

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01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 5: touchdown pass, one touchdown run, Mac Jones, one fumble, Jordan

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Speaker 5: Love in Green Bay one touchdown pass. He was five

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01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 5: of eight eighty four yards passing, but the Packers committed

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01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 5: eleven penalties. The late game has about seven minutes to

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Speaker 5: go at Seattle. They've had a safety, so Seahawks twenty

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Speaker 5: two fourteen over the Dallas Cowboys now Cooper Russia touchdown

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Speaker 5: pass Will Greer an interception thrown for the Cowboys. Drew Lock,

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Speaker 5: one of three quarterbacks to get action for Seattle Tonight,

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Speaker 5: starter Gino Smith five of six forty six yards drew

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Speaker 5: Lock five of six one hundred and nineteen yards two

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Speaker 5: in ol Las, Vegas won at Zho to two Rams.

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Speaker 5: In La thirty four to seventeen, Jimmy Garoppolo led a

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Speaker 5: touchdown drive on the opening drive. He went four for

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Speaker 5: four thirty nine yards. In fact, the Raiders as a

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Speaker 5: team three hundred and forty two yards passing Rams. Rookie

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Speaker 5: quarterback Stetson Bennett one interception and one touchdown run. In

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Speaker 5: San Francisco, the rookie kicker has been a story. The

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Speaker 5: home team gotta win over Denver tonight twenty one to

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Speaker 5: twenty because of a thirty two yard field goal on

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Speaker 5: the final play by rookie draft choice Jake Moody from Michigan.

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Speaker 5: He had missed an extra points earlier in the game.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback Rock Party of the forty nine ers, started after

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01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 5: offseason elbow surgery. He went four for five on the

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Speaker 5: opening drive sixty five yards passing, but Sam Darnold and

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Speaker 5: Trey Lance each had a touchdown pass, but each one

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Speaker 5: interception as well at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 5: Key to this exhibition final is that Denver was tackled

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01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 5: after a fifty yard catch and run, tackled at the

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Speaker 5: one and couldn't get up there to spike the ball

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Speaker 5: in time, and got no points at the end of

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Speaker 5: the half. Denver winds up losing by one. Kansas City

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Speaker 5: dominated at Arizona thirty eight to ten. The Chiefs offense

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Speaker 5: had over five hundred yards five touchdowns. Casey about nine

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Speaker 5: yards per play tonight, and Patrick Mahomes started had a

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Speaker 5: touchdown pass. He was ten for fifteen one hundred five yards.

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Speaker 5: We mentioned the rushing earlier. For Tennessee. They got a

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Speaker 5: win at zero to two Minnesota twenty four to sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Titans over two hundred eighty yards on the ground. Quarterback

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Speaker 5: Malik Willis will eleven carries and ninety one yards. Tampa

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Speaker 5: Bay won at the Jets thirteen to six. Kyle Traska

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Speaker 5: the Bucks for twenty eight passing two hundred and eighteen

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01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 5: yards in a touchdown. Bucks quarterback John Woolford left with

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 5: a neck intry. Jets committed three turnovers, had just six

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Speaker 5: points in defeat Indianapolis over Chicago twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Bears did lead seventeen to seven in this one. Early

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter, Nathan Peterman had a thirty five yard touchdown pass,

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Speaker 5: but for the Colts a TD pass for Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 5: He was thirteen of fifteen one hundred and seven yards

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Speaker 5: and quarterback Sam Ellinger on the ground eight carries for

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Speaker 5: the colt sixty yards rushing and a TD. Pittsburgh led

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Speaker 5: Buffalo twenty seven nothing after three quarters. Pittsburgh now two

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Speaker 5: to zero after the win of twenty seven fifteen. Matt

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Speaker 5: Barkley for the Bills tonight through three interceptions and then

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01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 5: had a fumble on four straight possessions, plus Buffalo committed

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Speaker 5: thirteen penalties. For the Steelers, Jalen Warren a sixty two

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Speaker 5: yard touchdown run that was on his only carry, Kenny

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01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 5: Pickett a touchdown path to pass. Friarmouth also wins on

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Speaker 5: the road for Jacksonville and from Miami. Dolphins won twenty

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Speaker 5: eight three at Houston, but Dolphins third round running back

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Speaker 5: Devon ah A left with a shoulder injury. MRI tomorrow.

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01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 5: No baseball in Southern California tomorrow due to the impending storm,

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01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 5: so doubleheaders and the Dodgers swept Miami, Arizona swept at

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Speaker 5: San Diego, Angels split two games with Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve de Sager, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres, Jason Martin taking you up

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Speaker 2: until two a m. Eastern time. We got one hour

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01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 2: left and we got a lot of ground to cover.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle will join us, but also we will revisit

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Speaker 2: the big story from the NBA, James Harden, what's next

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Speaker 2: with him? The Sixers, Daryl Morey and Moore? That's next?

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports thirty Welcome in everybody, our four Aeron Torres

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Speaker 2: and Jason Martin here on Fox Sports Radio. We're taking

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Speaker 2: you up until two am Eastern time. Bernie Fratto follows us,

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Speaker 2: and as always a about twenty minutes from now we

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Speaker 2: will hear from Bernie. Should have some good stuff on

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Speaker 2: the Jim Harbaugh News that we haven't really talked about tonight.

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Speaker 2: I know Jason and Arnie hit it last week while

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Speaker 2: I was gone. Bernie Fratto about twenty minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: a little earlier in the show, we did talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about James Harden and the busy week that

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Speaker 2: was for James Harden in China. Chris and Pat in

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Speaker 2: the back. If you don't mind, can we I forgot

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Speaker 2: to tell you we're gonna We're gonna talk a little

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Speaker 2: James Harden here. But it's been a busy week for

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Speaker 2: James Harden and so and so what I want to

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Speaker 2: do every I think everybody knows the story. But as

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Speaker 2: a quick background, went into the offseason, frustrate raided Uh

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Speaker 2: opted into the contract, which he thought would make it

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Speaker 2: easier for him to be traded. Unfortunately, right before the

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Speaker 2: show last week that Jason and Arnie did, we found

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Speaker 2: out that there really is no trade market for Jason,

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Speaker 2: for Chason Martin, for James Harden. Uh. There's a huge

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Speaker 2: trade market for Jason Martin. He's a great radio host.

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Speaker 2: But James Harden, on the other hand, he's white.

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Speaker 1: I killed James Harden.

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Speaker 2: Wow. That from Wow, that was me, I know, context,

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Speaker 2: just out of context. J Mart Chris, play that one

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Speaker 2: more time. I killed James Harden.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's incredible. I mean I just saw

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Speaker 2: him in China like four or five days ago. I

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Speaker 2: thought he was fine. So James Harden wants to be traded.

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Speaker 2: There is no market for an out of shape, whiney guy.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't help winning. But James Harden was asked about

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02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 2: the situation in China. Here's what he had to say

2327
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 2: about Daryl Morey.

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02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 6: Arl Moray, he is a liar and I would never

2329
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 6: get more an organization.

2330
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:13,839
Speaker 3: Darryl Moury is a liar and I would never be part.

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02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 1: Of an organization.

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02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 2: So first off, Jason, we'll play a second bite in

2333
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:24,760
Speaker 2: a second. But that sounded so scripted. It was like

2334
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 2: it was like watching just really bad acting. I mean,

2335
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 2: it's clear he wants to be traded. It's clear he

2336
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 2: knew he was in China. It's clear that he knows

2337
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 2: the background of Daryl Moury in China. The things that

2338
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 2: he said about Hong Kong a few years ago, he

2339
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 2: didn't even say, he just tweeted him. That's so lame

2340
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 2: and so pathetic. It's just I mean, I don't know

2341
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 2: what to say about James Harden that we haven't at

2342
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 2: this point, but even just that first SoundBite, I will

2343
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,200
Speaker 2: never play for him again.

2344
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 7: Uh.

2345
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:57,160
Speaker 2: Just just such a bad look for a guy that

2346
02:02:57,240 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 2: has had quite a few bad looks here over the

2347
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 2: last three four years.

2348
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it in the second hour, and

2349
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 1: we both kind of have been on the same page

2350
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,200
Speaker 1: about hardness since the day we started doing this show.

2351
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: And this just isn't surprising because it's just the newest

2352
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 1: version of I'm a victim and let me also show

2353
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: everything that I can that would make me even less

2354
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 1: valuable to another team, like, oh, we're going to bring

2355
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,400
Speaker 1: this in. This is the chemistry that we want to

2356
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: bring in. I mentioned the geopolitics of it as well

2357
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 1: earlier because it was in China and it was Darryl

2358
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: Morey in the same thing. So Brian win ESPN. I

2359
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 1: was looking at him trying to kind of parse through

2360
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 1: and what exactly was James Harden trying to say and

2361
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: what was he trying to create by his comments, And

2362
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 1: he said that there was that this was surgical, that

2363
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: it was a parting shot at the end of this

2364
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 1: Q and A. And the first thing he mentions is

2365
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 1: it played to the audience more. He's seen as a

2366
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: villain to many in China for his twenty nineteen social

2367
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: media posts of an image supporting protesters in Hong Kong,

2368
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 1: and indeed the crowd cheered, I could stop right there

2369
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: and tell you that ain't somebody I want on my

2370
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:18,120
Speaker 1: roster that right there, being in China and doing that

2371
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: and invoking this guy in this moment, to me, that

2372
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 1: kind of tells you all you need to know about

2373
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 1: James Harden in terms of what you would be bringing

2374
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: into your organization and the potential pitfalls of it. We

2375
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: already talked about earlier. He's thirty four, He's not who

2376
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 1: he once was. He can't get away with all the

2377
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 1: cons that you have to attach to his name because

2378
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 1: the pros aren't as deep as they once were. He's

2379
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 1: not going to give you the consistent, night after night

2380
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: output that dictates what he thinks he is still worth.

2381
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: And all of this began because he wanted a long

2382
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: term max contract extension with Houston or with Philadelphia, and

2383
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 1: they weren't willing to do that. Who would be who

2384
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:05,720
Speaker 1: is paying a long term MAX contract extension to a

2385
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: thirty four year old James Harden who crumbled again in

2386
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: Game seven in the Eastern Conference Semis after doing it

2387
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: two years ago and doing it pretty much throughout his

2388
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: entire career. Like, I just don't understand the logic here.

2389
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 1: Either he's completely just blind to the scenario around him,

2390
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 1: or or he's just disingenuous. But either way, I just don't.

2391
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: There's never a story about James Harden that comes out

2392
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:37,960
Speaker 1: that reflects well on him, and it usually also brings

2393
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: down the organization he is with at the time.

2394
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because even last offseason there was a

2395
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 2: story of oh, he took all, he took less money

2396
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 2: for the good of the seventy six ers, and you

2397
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 2: felt like there was an ulterior motive even then, like

2398
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 2: maybe I'm maybe I'm using revisionist history and it's easy

2399
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:56,080
Speaker 2: to say now I felt like, Okay, this guy has

2400
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 2: been about the bag every single step of the way.

2401
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,640
Speaker 2: He's been about Frank, like he's been about the wrong things,

2402
02:06:01,720 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 2: Like he's been about himself. He's been about nightlife, he's

2403
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 2: been about strip clubs. He's done like like I think

2404
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 2: you can even just go back to like, how did

2405
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 2: he leave Houston? He literally broke COVID protocols, showed up

2406
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 2: out of shape. I just I'm not when I say this,

2407
02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't mean it in the way that people think,

2408
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 2: like I don't think he's a good person, Like I

2409
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 2: don't think he's a like I don't think he's a

2410
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 2: bad person, like he's evil or anything. But I just

2411
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 2: think he's just so out of touch with to me

2412
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 2: that the thing mostly is our perception of him is

2413
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: that I do think he has a complete lack of

2414
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 2: self warness. When you ask, like, who's trading for James Harden,

2415
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 2: I think James Harden thinks there is a long list

2416
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 2: of teams that wants him, most notably the Los Angeles Clippers.

2417
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 2: Like it is kind of amazing to me when that

2418
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 2: story first broke that, oh, you know, the the Los

2419
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 2: Angeles Clippers. Dah da dah It's like I sat there

2420
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:02,560
Speaker 2: and said, like, I sort of kind of get why

2421
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 2: they would want him, but I also kind of don't

2422
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 2: because they have two guys that are kind of in

2423
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 2: and out of the lineup, and you know, Harden plays

2424
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 2: every night, So I shouldn't say it out of the lineup.

2425
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 2: But Kawhi's kind of moody. You never know what you're

2426
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 2: gonna get. Paul George's injury prone. You bring back Westbrook

2427
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 2: and the thing you say about Westbrook, does he play

2428
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 2: out of control of times? Whatever? Yeah, but he plays

2429
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 2: really hard and he's a great teammate, and he such

2430
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 2: has such a desire to win. Now he's stubborn and

2431
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:33,880
Speaker 2: he wants to do it his way. Whatever. I just

2432
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 2: bring it up to say, like Harden, I don't know,

2433
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know where I'm going with this. I

2434
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 2: just I'm just so over the act. I'm so over

2435
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 2: the victimhood. And I've said it a million times, but

2436
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 2: this guy has been given everything. He's been given multiple

2437
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 2: superstar teammates dating back to the Rockets, when he hand

2438
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 2: picked Dwight Howard, he hand picked Chris Paul, he hand

2439
02:07:56,320 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 2: picked Russell Westbrook. The gms have been over back Where's

2440
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:03,840
Speaker 2: for him, most notably Daryl Morey. He hand picks his

2441
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 2: trade spot to Brooklyn. Brooklyn gives up its entire future

2442
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 2: to get him. I'm just so over this guy. And

2443
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 2: then to pull this stunt at the time that he did,

2444
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:16,560
Speaker 2: at the place that he did for the reasons that

2445
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 2: he did, Jason, which I think you bring up. It's

2446
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 2: a very good point. It's just such a bad look

2447
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 2: across the board and just makes him such a I

2448
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 2: hope the Philadelphia seventy six ers stand their ground. I

2449
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 2: don't care if I don't see this guy on the

2450
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:29,760
Speaker 2: court anytime.

2451
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: So this is really interesting. I was looking further into

2452
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: the wind horse piece and he asked a question that

2453
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 1: I didn't really care about the answer to quite frankly,

2454
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: because I didn't even take it seriously. But he says

2455
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 1: what dishrdened believe Darryl Moury was lying about, and he

2456
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: goes deeper into it, which is something we haven't really

2457
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: talked about. And he says, look, if it was just

2458
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, he opted in and then they take him

2459
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 1: off the market seven weeks before the start of camp,

2460
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,840
Speaker 1: that's going to upset you. It's about something with the

2461
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:03,600
Speaker 1: current contract complexities arise. This is something I don't think

2462
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about, and I really haven't heard very much

2463
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 1: anywhere last summer. Win Oors writes cries across the league

2464
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 1: of foul play hard and agrees to that short deal.

2465
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 1: We talked about it, right fourteen million dollar pay cut

2466
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 1: in time for the savings to be used on two

2467
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 1: players who were his best friends, PJ. Tucker and Daniel

2468
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 1: House Junior. The NBA investigated seventy six er skilty tampering.

2469
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 1: In the case of Tucker, they lost two second round

2470
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 1: draft picks. No wrongdoing found around Harden's related paycut. This

2471
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 1: is where it gets interesting. He says. What is uncertain

2472
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 1: is whether Harden's threat Monday was simply that he'd hold

2473
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,480
Speaker 1: out a training camp without a trade, or if it

2474
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 1: held deeper, meaning that he would expose the perceived lie

2475
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get what he wants, meaning he knows

2476
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 1: that there was tampering, and he knows that there was

2477
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 1: something underhanded about his pay cut, and he'll expose that publicly,

2478
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 1: And he's effectively telling morey, don't test me. That's interesting.

2479
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 1: I had not seen that until I read this article.

2480
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:06,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that doesn't reflect real well

2481
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 1: on James Harden either, Like that's just yet another deal

2482
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 1: where why do you want that in your organization? If

2483
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 1: you're anybody else in the NBA, somebody that would even

2484
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 1: be willing to do something that would be put in

2485
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:22,920
Speaker 1: an article by a pretty well respected NBA reporter and

2486
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:26,400
Speaker 1: writer and somebody that's plugged into the league. You want

2487
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 1: to bring that into your organization. On top of it

2488
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 1: that kind of potential back door shenanigans and all this.

2489
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:38,040
Speaker 1: There's nothing about the James Harden experience in twenty twenty

2490
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: three that any contender should want to sign up for

2491
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 1: because it just the potential pitfalls are numerous.

2492
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 2: Well, and it just goes back something I said earlier,

2493
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 2: And for those of us who have been with us

2494
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:54,320
Speaker 2: for all four hours, I appreciate it. I also apologize

2495
02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 2: for being repetitive, but I've seen so many people, Oh,

2496
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:59,160
Speaker 2: this is just like Damian Lillard. He only wants to

2497
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 2: go one place, But Damian Lillard actually impacts winning. And

2498
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat are trying to do everything they can

2499
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 2: without breaking up a core that they believe can win

2500
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 2: a championship with Damian Lillard. Like like, the Heat haven't

2501
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:15,480
Speaker 2: made this trade because the pieces that they need with

2502
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard to win at the highest level they don't

2503
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 2: want to trade. The Clippers don't want to give up

2504
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 2: pretty much anything because he doesn't add that much fun.

2505
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,000
Speaker 2: Let me let me just ask you one simple question

2506
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:28,800
Speaker 2: and I'll put this to bed, I promise. Okay. I

2507
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:32,000
Speaker 2: mentioned this a minute ago. Russell Westbrook is currently with

2508
02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:35,280
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Clippers. He has his limitations. He's not

2509
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 2: a great three point shooter. We know all that. But

2510
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the one thing I have never questioned

2511
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 2: is Russell Westbrook, excuse me, his heart and his willingness

2512
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 2: to win. And so my question is, Jason, if you

2513
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 2: could only have one of the two right now, James

2514
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:55,280
Speaker 2: Harden and Russell Westbrook, who would you prefer? And maybe

2515
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 2: it's James Harden, but I'm curious, you can only have

2516
02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 2: one of the two for the twenty twenty three twenty

2517
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 2: twenty five four season, who would it be? Chrith that is,

2518
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 2: I'll just say, I'd rather have Westbrook. I'd rather have

2519
02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 2: Westbrook's attitude. That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying is.

2520
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the biggest value of all right now. The

2521
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:15,760
Speaker 1: basketball skills of both are not what they once were.

2522
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:19,400
Speaker 1: We know that, we know that there are problems with both.

2523
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 1: There have been some chemistry issues here and there and

2524
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. But definitely the heart of

2525
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:28,600
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook's never been questioned. And just the fact that

2526
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 1: he goes out there a million miles an hour every

2527
02:12:30,840 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 1: time and gives you everything he has. That's something that

2528
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 1: I absolutely not only question, but I'm pretty sure I

2529
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 1: can confirm, is the case that James Harden does not

2530
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 1: have that skill set.

2531
02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:45,280
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook's heart has never been questioned. James Harden's heart

2532
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:47,480
Speaker 2: is all we question. I'll leave it at that. Fox

2533
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fratto Show, but he joins us. Now Burn what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 8: You know, guys, there are those that might think that

2562
02:14:39,200 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 8: preseason football is insignificant. And I know Stetson Bennett has

2563
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 8: been talked about quite a bit, but there was a

2564
02:14:45,680 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 8: story last week involving Bennett and as far as what

2565
02:14:50,240 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 8: happened being insignificant, don't tell that to cgo Koya. Cgokoya

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Speaker 8: is a Nigerian athlete who signed with the Chargers last offseason.

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Speaker 8: He's only twenty one years. He's only started training in

2568
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 8: football two years ago. He's never played a single organized

2569
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 8: game in Pop Warner High School, club college, certainly not

2570
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:13,160
Speaker 8: the National Football League. But last year or checked that

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02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:15,320
Speaker 8: last Saturday, he got on the field.

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Speaker 3: And sapped.

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02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:21,280
Speaker 8: Stats in Ben in his first ever football game on

2574
02:15:21,400 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 8: any level after learning the game just two years ago

2575
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 8: as part of the thing called the International Player Pathway

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02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 8: that was started by Ocuman. Your so, the long and

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02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:32,080
Speaker 8: the short of it is, even in preseason football, there

2578
02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:33,320
Speaker 8: are always unique stories.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you know. You mentioned things that

2580
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:40,760
Speaker 2: happened last Saturday. I was outburned. But right before Jason

2581
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:45,000
Speaker 2: and Arnie went on air, there were reports of something

2582
02:15:45,040 --> 02:15:47,480
Speaker 2: that you told us two weeks before, and it involved

2583
02:15:47,560 --> 02:15:50,120
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan Wolverines. The reports that I

2584
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:53,320
Speaker 2: saw first came from Yahoo and it was basically that

2585
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 2: the four game suspension that had been reported about two

2586
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:00,200
Speaker 2: three weeks ago around Big ten media days. It's not

2587
02:16:00,200 --> 02:16:03,040
Speaker 2: going to be satisfactory to the NCAAA. That was not

2588
02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:05,960
Speaker 2: news to me because you've told us that on these airwaves.

2589
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:08,320
Speaker 2: I know it's about a week old, but I know

2590
02:16:08,360 --> 02:16:11,920
Speaker 2: there's been some new updates privately behind the scenes that

2591
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:14,160
Speaker 2: you might be privy to. Not sure how much you

2592
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 2: could share, but what he tells about the relationship with

2593
02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 2: Harbaugh and Michigan.

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Speaker 8: So you set that up well, and we talked about

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Speaker 8: this a month ago, just because they had agreed on

2596
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:25,880
Speaker 8: a four game suspension. I'd been told the NCAA wanted six.

2597
02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 8: So when it got to the NCAA Committee on Infractions

2598
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 8: they call it the COI, they have a chance to

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Speaker 8: review it and rule on it and reject it, which

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02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 8: is exactly what they did. They don't like what's happened here.

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Speaker 8: They do not feel Harball was truthful. Our ball was obstinate.

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Speaker 8: So Tuesday, Jim Harbaugh had a press conference, had nothing

2603
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Speaker 8: to do with this. He wouldn't talk about it. But

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Speaker 8: I was able to talk to a couple of my

2605
02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 8: moles Tuesday who had one off conversations to the side.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, one of my questions was because

2607
02:16:58,040 --> 02:17:01,720
Speaker 8: I mentioned to you guys, Mike McDonald, the defensive coordinator

2608
02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:04,040
Speaker 8: at the time in Michigan, is now with the Baltimore Ravens,

2609
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:06,120
Speaker 8: got a show cause penalty. And I'm going, well, this

2610
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:09,039
Speaker 8: must be serious. Why did he get a show calls penalty? Well,

2611
02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:11,880
Speaker 8: I found out he stiff armed the NCAA, didn't return

2612
02:17:11,959 --> 02:17:14,400
Speaker 8: any of their calls, any other letters, any of their inquirers,

2613
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 8: completely blocked him out, so they just gave him a

2614
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:18,160
Speaker 8: show cost penalty.

2615
02:17:18,400 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 3: But this is Harbaugh's official position.

2616
02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 8: Off the record, I'll say allegedly, you know, so, I

2617
02:17:23,240 --> 02:17:25,920
Speaker 8: don't get in trouble, but this is a good source.

2618
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:27,320
Speaker 3: Harball's pissed.

2619
02:17:27,320 --> 02:17:30,320
Speaker 8: He goes, you know, with all the stuff going on

2620
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:34,120
Speaker 8: in the NCAA, nil spinning out of control, you're worried

2621
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:37,400
Speaker 8: about this. It's like one of the reasons. And he

2622
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:39,879
Speaker 8: got very santimony. Is one of the reasons Michigan doesn't

2623
02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:42,560
Speaker 8: win national championships is because we don't cheat. We played

2624
02:17:42,560 --> 02:17:44,800
Speaker 8: by the rules. You guys should have a bigger fish

2625
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:47,680
Speaker 8: to fry. Why me, what the hell you worried about

2626
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:51,000
Speaker 8: me for? And he's madder than ever. Here's where the

2627
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:53,240
Speaker 8: story starts to get interesting. This is getting kicked down

2628
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:56,680
Speaker 8: the road until twenty twenty four. Well, as we've talked

2629
02:17:56,680 --> 02:18:00,280
Speaker 8: about before, Jim Harbaugh's buyout is a whopping too point

2630
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 8: two million, and it drops to seventy seven hundred and

2631
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:07,560
Speaker 8: fifty thousand the following year. Privately, his people are saying, Hey,

2632
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:11,080
Speaker 8: Sean Payton's fifty nine years old, look what he got

2633
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:14,600
Speaker 8: jam Bob Boss fifty nine years old. We believe he's

2634
02:18:14,720 --> 02:18:19,160
Speaker 8: as accomplished as Sean Payton or more. For multiple reasons,

2635
02:18:19,480 --> 02:18:22,039
Speaker 8: this could get very interesting. The rumors will start up

2636
02:18:22,360 --> 02:18:25,880
Speaker 8: in January Harball back to the NFL and he might

2637
02:18:25,959 --> 02:18:27,880
Speaker 8: just give the NCAA the middle finger. Then it would

2638
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:30,120
Speaker 8: leave the NCAA to do with Michigan and what penalties

2639
02:18:30,520 --> 02:18:33,160
Speaker 8: they might have. So this story is not done.

2640
02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot to come there, that's obvious. Burn One

2641
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:40,640
Speaker 1: question that Aaron asked me very early in the show,

2642
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:42,760
Speaker 1: I note we'll be able to ask it over and

2643
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:44,800
Speaker 1: over during the course of the NFL season. I'm just

2644
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:46,680
Speaker 1: curious where you are right now, with a couple of

2645
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:50,720
Speaker 1: weeks before Week one. What's a team where you're hearing

2646
02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:53,400
Speaker 1: a lot of hype but you flat out are just

2647
02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:56,199
Speaker 1: not on board. You're gonna need to see more something

2648
02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 1: to that degree where you're just not so sure that

2649
02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:00,720
Speaker 1: the general can sensus is accurate.

2650
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Speaker 8: Well, it has to be the Jets, There's no question.

2651
02:19:04,480 --> 02:19:08,720
Speaker 8: On paper they check a lot of boxes. But as

2652
02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:10,640
Speaker 8: will be the case when they get on the field

2653
02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:13,000
Speaker 8: the first month, there's no I believe it's going to

2654
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 8: take minimum month for that offense to gel. Their offensive

2655
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:20,959
Speaker 8: line issues clearly are an issue. They're in a very

2656
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:22,959
Speaker 8: very tough division and if you look at their first

2657
02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:26,439
Speaker 8: six weeks, not a fun gauntlet.

2658
02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 3: Right.

2659
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 8: So I'm not in on the Jets. I'm not out

2660
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 8: on the Jets either. I am curious because I think

2661
02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:36,760
Speaker 8: it could go one of two ways. Now, they may

2662
02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:38,640
Speaker 8: end up, well, they may end up you know, ten

2663
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:41,640
Speaker 8: and seven something along those lines, getting the playoffs. But

2664
02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 8: the angle I'm looking at Jason and Aaron is how

2665
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:48,879
Speaker 8: will they react if they start out two and four

2666
02:19:48,959 --> 02:19:51,080
Speaker 8: or something like that. I know it's a big if, right,

2667
02:19:51,080 --> 02:19:53,720
Speaker 8: you don't like to create problems don't exist yet try

2668
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:57,400
Speaker 8: to solve them, But how will the dynamic of disorganization

2669
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:01,720
Speaker 8: present and reveal itself. The Aaron Rodgers dynamic and his

2670
02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:05,440
Speaker 8: relationship in the locker room if they start out two

2671
02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:09,040
Speaker 8: and four. Conversely, I'm very much in on the Detroit Lions.

2672
02:20:09,080 --> 02:20:11,400
Speaker 8: I think this is a very good football team, and

2673
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:14,560
Speaker 8: everybody neatly ignores and forgets that when they were one

2674
02:20:14,600 --> 02:20:20,280
Speaker 8: and six last year, they fired their defensive backs coach.

2675
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:23,400
Speaker 8: They were running a scheme that lacked communication. There were

2676
02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:25,200
Speaker 8: a lot of blown assignments. There was kind of a

2677
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 8: high risk carb reward scheme. They went with a more

2678
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:30,879
Speaker 8: basic assignment sound scheme and they went eight and two

2679
02:20:30,879 --> 02:20:34,360
Speaker 8: down the stretch. So the Lions offense is very good,

2680
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:36,320
Speaker 8: but it was their defense that enabled them to go

2681
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:38,279
Speaker 8: eight and two last year when they changed their scheme.

2682
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:40,320
Speaker 8: I'm in on the Lions. I think they're ten and

2683
02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:41,480
Speaker 8: seven and we'll go from there.

2684
02:20:42,080 --> 02:20:45,000
Speaker 2: Burn I see the same question about college. Give me

2685
02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,280
Speaker 2: a team that you're either much higher on or much

2686
02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:49,240
Speaker 2: lower on than the general public.

2687
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,400
Speaker 8: Much higher on our house state than the general public.

2688
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:54,320
Speaker 8: I think they're very much flying under the radar. They're

2689
02:20:54,320 --> 02:20:59,440
Speaker 8: absolutely loaded. I'm not buying Texas at all. If I had,

2690
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:01,120
Speaker 8: if I had, I have to hear Texas. You know,

2691
02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:02,800
Speaker 8: if I had a nickel for every time I heard

2692
02:21:02,879 --> 02:21:05,520
Speaker 8: Texas is back, I'd have my own private jet with

2693
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:08,520
Speaker 8: twenty four hour access. I don't believe in in Steve

2694
02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:10,760
Speaker 8: Sarkisian at all. And we'll find out when they go

2695
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 8: to Bama. That'll be an acid test. And now they're

2696
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 8: on USC either. They came out of the gate huge

2697
02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:18,760
Speaker 8: last year. They're gonna have a prolific offense. I don't

2698
02:21:18,760 --> 02:21:21,200
Speaker 8: know if that defense can stop a parade. So there

2699
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:23,920
Speaker 8: are a lot of questions up and down, you know,

2700
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:27,280
Speaker 8: all around college football. But those are three Marquet programs

2701
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:30,160
Speaker 8: that are you know, preennially, you know, in the news,

2702
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:31,600
Speaker 8: and that's how I feel about them.

2703
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:33,760
Speaker 1: Bertie, I know we didn't get to it last week.

2704
02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:34,840
Speaker 1: I know it was one of the things that you

2705
02:21:34,879 --> 02:21:36,680
Speaker 1: said you wanted to get to and I think we

2706
02:21:36,760 --> 02:21:39,320
Speaker 1: ended up talking about Dungee and doing some other stuff.

2707
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 1: But ye, MLB is getting innovative. What are they looking

2708
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:46,039
Speaker 1: at from an idea perspective? I know you had something

2709
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:46,320
Speaker 1: on that.

2710
02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 8: Yes, there is a really cool at least I think

2711
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:53,199
Speaker 8: it's cool idea that's being disgusted at very high levels,

2712
02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:54,920
Speaker 8: but it's not seeping out in the media. And I

2713
02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:57,879
Speaker 8: kind of like to get your guys opinion started very innocently,

2714
02:21:57,920 --> 02:22:00,200
Speaker 8: you know they don't have old timers games anymore. And

2715
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:02,040
Speaker 8: the home run derby's kind of played. It's kind of

2716
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:05,240
Speaker 8: like the slam dunk contest had enough of it. Well,

2717
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:08,640
Speaker 8: this started very innocently right before the home run derby

2718
02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:13,000
Speaker 8: last July, Ken Griffy Junior bumped into Albert Pools in

2719
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:16,960
Speaker 8: the hallway and Pool has said you in the contest tonight. Ken,

2720
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:20,199
Speaker 8: he says, I will, if you will, and Pools looked

2721
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 8: at him like, well, you're a little old, aren't you.

2722
02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:24,760
Speaker 8: Griffy goes hey, I could do it, man. And by

2723
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 8: the way, he had a situation during the Olympics or

2724
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:31,119
Speaker 8: the World Cup, or whichever it.

2725
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Speaker 3: Was, the team.

2726
02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:35,560
Speaker 8: The team dared Ken Griffy Junior to get into the

2727
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:37,920
Speaker 8: batting box batter's box if you get home run, and

2728
02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:40,400
Speaker 8: he did right. So anyway, all of a sudden, this

2729
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:44,480
Speaker 8: idea spawned from nothing. Why not a legend's home run

2730
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 8: derby at the All Star Game. And when word got out,

2731
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:49,440
Speaker 8: Jim Tolemy raised its hand and says, I won in.

2732
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:53,680
Speaker 8: David Ortiz said I won in. Albert Poole says, Pool said,

2733
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:55,440
Speaker 8: I'll do it. Ken Griffrey Junior said, I'll do it.

2734
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:59,320
Speaker 8: Then all of a sudden, Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, Jason Giambi,

2735
02:22:59,400 --> 02:23:02,600
Speaker 8: Mark McGuire, all these guys said they're interested, and then

2736
02:23:02,879 --> 02:23:06,400
Speaker 8: the idea spun from there. For instance, the All Star

2737
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:09,440
Speaker 8: Game is in Texas next year? Might you invite Adrian

2738
02:23:09,480 --> 02:23:13,120
Speaker 8: Beltre It's in Philadelphia in twenty twenty six. Once you

2739
02:23:13,160 --> 02:23:15,800
Speaker 8: invite you know, Ryan Howard, and then when you get

2740
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:19,280
Speaker 8: to Chicago next year, how about Sammy Sosa.

2741
02:23:19,360 --> 02:23:22,680
Speaker 3: So this is an idea that's being talked about. Personally,

2742
02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:25,840
Speaker 3: I would like it. It's gotten some push back.

2743
02:23:26,200 --> 02:23:28,280
Speaker 8: It's you know, people on one hundred percent on board,

2744
02:23:28,280 --> 02:23:30,039
Speaker 8: but a lot of players are. I think you would

2745
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:32,080
Speaker 8: be novel and I think it's got a chance of happening.

2746
02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 2: Two quick thoughts on that one. If we do a

2747
02:23:35,720 --> 02:23:39,959
Speaker 2: Legends Homer on Derby, steroids are not only encouraged but required.

2748
02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:43,560
Speaker 2: I think we should go reverse on the steroids to Bernie.

2749
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:46,120
Speaker 2: To your thought about USC, how about this. Have you

2750
02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:49,640
Speaker 2: seen the back half of their schedule? It is at

2751
02:23:49,879 --> 02:23:56,279
Speaker 2: final six games at Notre Dame, Utah, at home Cal Washington,

2752
02:23:56,680 --> 02:23:58,640
Speaker 2: at Oregon UCLA.

2753
02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:00,680
Speaker 8: You know the good news there they don't have to

2754
02:24:00,680 --> 02:24:03,600
Speaker 8: play Tulane yeah, no, just soon.

2755
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:07,560
Speaker 2: Well how about this, four teams in the top twenty

2756
02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:10,320
Speaker 2: of the first AP poll, two of them on the road,

2757
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:13,879
Speaker 2: plus UCLA, which basically it could have been any last year.

2758
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:15,720
Speaker 2: I just bring it up to say this was before

2759
02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:18,160
Speaker 2: the entire PAC twelve fell apart. But when I saw

2760
02:24:18,200 --> 02:24:19,600
Speaker 2: that schedule, I was like, there was no way the

2761
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:22,080
Speaker 2: PAC twelve wants USC winning it, and what we thought

2762
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:24,720
Speaker 2: was USC's final year had no idea that it was

2763
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:25,280
Speaker 2: everybody else.

2764
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:29,199
Speaker 8: Well, you know it's interesting, guys, Well, last thing. USC

2765
02:24:29,320 --> 02:24:31,959
Speaker 8: remains the darling of the conference from the standpoint of

2766
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:34,800
Speaker 8: their marquee value in their history. But why doesn't Utah

2767
02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:36,920
Speaker 8: get love? Haven't they won the conference too on the

2768
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:40,400
Speaker 8: last three years? I think, you know, it would not

2769
02:24:40,560 --> 02:24:43,800
Speaker 8: surprise me if USC does not have a great year.

2770
02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:46,360
Speaker 3: We'll just see what that means. Let's let it play out.

2771
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:49,400
Speaker 2: Like I said, four teams in the AP top twenty

2772
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:52,879
Speaker 2: in their final six games, So something to keep in mind.

2773
02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:55,440
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle of the Bernie Fratto Show, you can hear

2774
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:56,920
Speaker 2: him at the top of the hour. We're gonna be

2775
02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,360
Speaker 2: talking a lot of NFL college football and much more.

2776
02:24:59,720 --> 02:25:02,720
Speaker 2: Bar Man, we appreciate your time, and we'll be doing

2777
02:25:02,760 --> 02:25:03,320
Speaker 2: it again soon.

2778
02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:05,480
Speaker 3: Man. Thank you, joy your Sunday guys.

2779
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:08,360
Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fratto up the Bernie Frattles Show. We'll

2780
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:11,680
Speaker 2: come back react to some of what Bernie Fratto said

2781
02:25:11,920 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 2: before we do. Let's toss it over the news desk

2782
02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:17,720
Speaker 2: final time this evening, Steve de Seger, what is trending,

2783
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 2: my friend? We'll start with.

2784
02:25:19,640 --> 02:25:23,160
Speaker 5: The NFL exhibitions guys. AP has printed out so far

2785
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:27,240
Speaker 5: this preseason. The three highest passer ratings this is minimum

2786
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:31,520
Speaker 5: twenty pass attempts. There's Raiders, Aidan O'Connell, then the Colts

2787
02:25:31,560 --> 02:25:35,000
Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew number three this preseason drew lock of the

2788
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:38,720
Speaker 5: Seahawks in Seattle tonight. Locke was five for six passing

2789
02:25:38,760 --> 02:25:42,279
Speaker 5: one hundred and nineteen yards and the Seahawks beat Dallas

2790
02:25:42,320 --> 02:25:45,440
Speaker 5: twenty two to fourteen. Vegas beat the Rams in La

2791
02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:48,960
Speaker 5: thirty four to seventeen. Jimmy Garoppolo led a touchdown drive

2792
02:25:49,080 --> 02:25:52,400
Speaker 5: on the opening drive, four for four passing thirty nine yards.

2793
02:25:52,600 --> 02:25:55,640
Speaker 5: Sunday night in the Sane Stadium, the Chargers are due

2794
02:25:55,640 --> 02:25:58,760
Speaker 5: to host New Orleans. With the tropical storm outside.

2795
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:00,119
Speaker 1: San Francisco beat.

2796
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:02,520
Speaker 5: Enver twenty one twenty on a thirty two yard field

2797
02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:05,800
Speaker 5: goal on the final play from rookie draft choice Jake Moody,

2798
02:26:06,040 --> 02:26:09,720
Speaker 5: who had missed an extra point earlier. Patrick Mahomes started

2799
02:26:09,720 --> 02:26:12,440
Speaker 5: for the Chiefs, had a touchdown pass in Kansas City's

2800
02:26:12,480 --> 02:26:15,760
Speaker 5: easy win at Arizona thirty eight to ten. Chiefs offense

2801
02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:18,920
Speaker 5: had over five hundred yards. Road wins for Tennessee and

2802
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:22,840
Speaker 5: New England. Road wins for Jacksonville and Miami. Dolphins won

2803
02:26:22,840 --> 02:26:25,520
Speaker 5: at Houston twenty eight to three. Rookie quarterback c J.

2804
02:26:25,720 --> 02:26:29,440
Speaker 5: Strouds sixty yards, passing seven of twelve. Texans running back

2805
02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:33,200
Speaker 5: Damian Pierce six carries just fifteen yards. Miami had over

2806
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:36,480
Speaker 5: two hundred yards rushing Savon ACKMD almost one hundred on

2807
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:39,600
Speaker 5: him by himself, but Dolphins third round running back Devon A.

2808
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:44,360
Speaker 5: Chane left with a shoulder injury MRI Tomorrow. New England

2809
02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 5: won at Green Bay twenty one seventeen. That game was

2810
02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:50,200
Speaker 5: called after an injury with about ten minutes left. New

2811
02:26:50,240 --> 02:26:53,720
Speaker 5: England defensive back Isaiah Bolden was knocked out in a collision,

2812
02:26:53,760 --> 02:26:56,680
Speaker 5: eventually stretchered off. He'll be in a hospital overnight. Does

2813
02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:59,560
Speaker 5: have feeling in the extremities Tampa Bay and the Colt

2814
02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:02,240
Speaker 5: Sage and Pittsburgh was up twenty seven to nothing on

2815
02:27:02,280 --> 02:27:05,720
Speaker 5: Buffalo after three quarters beat him twenty seven to fifteen.

2816
02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:09,959
Speaker 5: The Bill's Matt Barkley on four straight possessions through three

2817
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:13,440
Speaker 5: interceptions and had a fumble. The Women's World Cup final

2818
02:27:13,480 --> 02:27:16,600
Speaker 5: is early Sunday morning, England against Spain from Sydney on

2819
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:20,160
Speaker 5: Fox TV six am Eastern Time on Sunday. Sweden won

2820
02:27:20,200 --> 02:27:23,520
Speaker 5: today's third place game two nothing at Australia. Sweden was

2821
02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:25,520
Speaker 5: the only nation to finish in the top three in

2822
02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:28,480
Speaker 5: each of the last three big events. Second at the

2823
02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:31,840
Speaker 5: Last Olympics, third at the last World Cup four years ago,

2824
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:35,119
Speaker 5: second at the Rio Olympics before that third place Today.

2825
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 5: USA basketball finishes its exhibition schedule tomorrow on Fox TV

2826
02:27:39,440 --> 02:27:42,600
Speaker 5: against Germany noon Eastern time. The Feeble World Cup starts

2827
02:27:42,600 --> 02:27:45,200
Speaker 5: in a week in Asia. Yesterday, the US won its

2828
02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 5: exhibition against Grease Eeason Lee Anthony Edwards at twenty one

2829
02:27:48,360 --> 02:27:51,560
Speaker 5: points in seventeen minutes. Scotty Scheffler is tied for the

2830
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:54,840
Speaker 5: one stroke lead at the BMW Roy McElroy three back.

2831
02:27:54,879 --> 02:27:58,520
Speaker 5: As the golf playoffs, Can sinew Baltimore in ten innings.

2832
02:27:58,520 --> 02:28:00,959
Speaker 5: The Orioles won again, seven to two in Oakland. The

2833
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:04,760
Speaker 5: a's record now thirty four and eighty nine. The o'ser

2834
02:28:04,840 --> 02:28:06,720
Speaker 5: first in the AL East two and a half games

2835
02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:10,039
Speaker 5: over Tampa Bay, which split a doubleheader in Anaheim, Tampa

2836
02:28:10,040 --> 02:28:13,680
Speaker 5: Bay winning the nightcap eighteen to four. And yes, as

2837
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:16,480
Speaker 5: we've been saying, the three Southern California ball clubs each

2838
02:28:16,520 --> 02:28:19,640
Speaker 5: had their games for tomorrow rescheduled due to the tropical

2839
02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:23,200
Speaker 5: storm that's coming, so they each had Saturday doubleheaders. Arizona

2840
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:26,560
Speaker 5: swept too at San Diego. The Dodgers swept two from Miami.

2841
02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:30,119
Speaker 5: Mookie Bets hit two solo homers in the nightcap. Boston

2842
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:33,039
Speaker 5: sent the Yankees to a seventh straight loss. Road wins

2843
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:36,480
Speaker 5: for Milwaukee and Toronto. Atlanta won its fifth straight game,

2844
02:28:37,360 --> 02:28:39,760
Speaker 5: and Seattle has won five in a row, a ten

2845
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 5: to three win at Houston. And it's just amazing what

2846
02:28:44,879 --> 02:28:49,200
Speaker 5: Julio Rodriguez, Mariners All Star is doing. Four for six tonight,

2847
02:28:50,200 --> 02:28:53,640
Speaker 5: seventeen hits total in his last four games, seventeen for

2848
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:57,160
Speaker 5: twenty two at the plate. He also has five steals

2849
02:28:57,160 --> 02:28:59,280
Speaker 5: in the last four games. He's over thirty steals for

2850
02:28:59,320 --> 02:29:03,439
Speaker 5: the season. But the item from the longtime baseball researcher

2851
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:06,240
Speaker 5: Sarah Langs is that before tonight it was a pretty

2852
02:29:06,280 --> 02:29:08,960
Speaker 5: short list and it included Ty Cobb of guys who

2853
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:12,680
Speaker 5: in a four game span had at least five steals,

2854
02:29:12,840 --> 02:29:15,200
Speaker 5: and it was thirteen hits was the most. This is

2855
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:19,520
Speaker 5: five steals and seventeen hits for Julio Rodriguez just in

2856
02:29:19,600 --> 02:29:21,199
Speaker 5: the last four game spect.

2857
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:25,600
Speaker 2: You, thank you very much, Steve Disaga, Fox Sports Radio,

2858
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:30,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting live from

2859
02:29:30,320 --> 02:29:33,279
Speaker 2: your tirec dot Com studios to Saga will be back tomorrow.

2860
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:36,840
Speaker 2: He will not be back to Chargers still have a

2861
02:29:36,879 --> 02:29:40,480
Speaker 2: game as of right now. Everyone knows justin Herbert Steve

2862
02:29:40,520 --> 02:29:43,599
Speaker 2: de Sager. They go hand in hand at Sofi Stadium

2863
02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:45,679
Speaker 2: whenever the Chargers are playing.

2864
02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:48,600
Speaker 5: So getting there earlier than normal tomorrow, let's just say that.

2865
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:50,959
Speaker 2: Well, save travels. I'm supposed to fly tomorrow, so wish

2866
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:53,360
Speaker 2: me a little good luck on that. Wow, we'll see

2867
02:29:53,400 --> 02:29:56,760
Speaker 2: if I get out. But anyway, Jason, real quick, before

2868
02:29:56,760 --> 02:29:59,800
Speaker 2: we get to break what you make of Bernie Fratto.

2869
02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to call it. It's his proposal because

2870
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:05,039
Speaker 2: he obviously has it well sourced from somebody that it's

2871
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:10,080
Speaker 2: a thing the Legends Home Run Derby for people who

2872
02:30:10,160 --> 02:30:12,680
Speaker 2: just miss Bernie Fratto essentially saying, I don't know if

2873
02:30:12,680 --> 02:30:15,160
Speaker 2: it would replace the Home Run Derby, but it would

2874
02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:18,160
Speaker 2: be an extra event at All Star Weekend. Bring back

2875
02:30:18,240 --> 02:30:21,000
Speaker 2: Ken Griffey Junior, Albert Poohols, maybe a Prince Field Or's

2876
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:23,840
Speaker 2: somebody like that, and allow them to compete in Home

2877
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:24,520
Speaker 2: Run Derby.

2878
02:30:25,879 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 1: I like that that makes sense, right, I mean, I

2879
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:33,200
Speaker 1: think there's you just want to see. I mean, it's

2880
02:30:33,240 --> 02:30:35,640
Speaker 1: an exhibition anyway. It doesn't mean anything like it's I

2881
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:37,600
Speaker 1: mean it can, I guess, and it can be an

2882
02:30:37,600 --> 02:30:41,680
Speaker 1: exciting thing. But I would probably argue that if you

2883
02:30:41,720 --> 02:30:45,240
Speaker 1: can put in names to have some recognition and just

2884
02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:47,240
Speaker 1: create more fun out if you look at it as

2885
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:50,200
Speaker 1: an entertainment product first and foremost, as you should. I

2886
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:52,439
Speaker 1: like that idea. As a matter of fact.

2887
02:30:52,520 --> 02:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had not heard that. I mean, Bernie made

2888
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 2: it sound like it was something that kind of emerged

2889
02:30:56,800 --> 02:31:00,840
Speaker 2: over this past All Star Weekend with you know again,

2890
02:31:00,879 --> 02:31:03,040
Speaker 2: with King Griffey Junior and Albert poolhost kind of first

2891
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:05,840
Speaker 2: discussing it kind of in a lobby way out there

2892
02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:09,160
Speaker 2: in Seattle. But something I don't know, I think i'd

2893
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:12,280
Speaker 2: probably watch it. I don't know that it's like top

2894
02:31:12,320 --> 02:31:14,840
Speaker 2: of the priority list, but early July, not much going

2895
02:31:14,879 --> 02:31:16,720
Speaker 2: on in sports, I would probably check it out. So

2896
02:31:17,160 --> 02:31:19,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Era towards Jason mart we have one

2897
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:24,000
Speaker 2: segment left. How about this, Jason, For the first time

2898
02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:29,200
Speaker 2: since February, we have meaningful college football to preview for

2899
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:32,199
Speaker 2: next weekend. That's next, Fox Sports Radio.

2900
02:31:36,120 --> 02:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes keeping his feet moving, holding it now fires for

2901
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:45,800
Speaker 1: the Zee Lake pot touchdown Cans City. Justin Watson as

2902
02:31:45,959 --> 02:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Mahomes that Patton to just paralleled run to the line

2903
02:31:48,920 --> 02:31:51,360
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and getting open in the red zone.

2904
02:31:51,440 --> 02:31:55,120
Speaker 2: Justin Watson wanted to give Patrick Mahomes a little bit

2905
02:31:55,120 --> 02:31:57,840
Speaker 2: of credit for actually showing up and playing in the preseason,

2906
02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:00,960
Speaker 2: unlike so many of these other guys. And that was

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02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:04,000
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Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. That call courtesy of Chiefs Radio Network. Jason,

2912
02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:27,200
Speaker 2: we are a week away from regular season football, meaning

2913
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:30,800
Speaker 2: for football for the first time since February unless you

2914
02:32:30,840 --> 02:32:35,040
Speaker 2: include the USFL and XFL in that mix. I want

2915
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:40,039
Speaker 2: to talk a little college football. Week zero is coming up, Chris.

2916
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:41,720
Speaker 2: Why don't you give us a little music? Put us

2917
02:32:41,720 --> 02:32:43,120
Speaker 2: in the mood here, Just give us some kind of

2918
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:46,640
Speaker 2: football music. We got football to talk about, Chris. Come on,

2919
02:32:46,760 --> 02:32:50,560
Speaker 2: let's go focus. It's game week, Chris.

2920
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Come on.

2921
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Notre Dame playing Navy in Dublin. I'll say this, Jay,

2922
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:00,960
Speaker 2: we don't have to do the whole point spread thing.

2923
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:05,080
Speaker 2: It's a twenty point point spread. Notre Dame really interesting

2924
02:33:05,720 --> 02:33:09,120
Speaker 2: in year two under Marcus Freeman. Also remember, for those

2925
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:11,160
Speaker 2: of you who don't follow college football on a day

2926
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:16,800
Speaker 2: to day basis Sam Hartman, who has thrown for I'm

2927
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:20,240
Speaker 2: not great at math here just under eighty touchdowns in

2928
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:24,320
Speaker 2: the last two years, seventy seven tds over the last

2929
02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:28,520
Speaker 2: two years at Wake Forest is at Notre Dame. Jason,

2930
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:31,280
Speaker 2: I'll say this, they took a little step back last

2931
02:33:31,360 --> 02:33:34,600
Speaker 2: year under Marcus Freeman, but that was to be expected

2932
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:38,200
Speaker 2: with the coaching change. They've always been able to run

2933
02:33:38,240 --> 02:33:42,240
Speaker 2: the ball. They've always played defense. If they get like

2934
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:46,760
Speaker 2: a minus quarterback play, they're all of a sudden a

2935
02:33:46,879 --> 02:33:48,039
Speaker 2: really interesting team.

2936
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Jays Oh, I agree. I mean that's the thing that's

2937
02:33:50,440 --> 02:33:54,000
Speaker 1: been missing for a while now. Really, I mean, I

2938
02:33:54,040 --> 02:33:56,800
Speaker 1: and Book played pretty well, but there were some limitations there.

2939
02:33:57,280 --> 02:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman has a really nice resume from what he

2940
02:33:59,720 --> 02:34:01,800
Speaker 1: did for Dave Closson a wake for us. Now, is

2941
02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:04,320
Speaker 1: it gonna be able to duplicate that in a different system.

2942
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:09,640
Speaker 1: We'll see. But you're right. If he is able to

2943
02:34:09,920 --> 02:34:13,160
Speaker 1: bring the level of quarterback play up at Notre Dame

2944
02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:15,840
Speaker 1: where they seem to have so many other things going

2945
02:34:15,879 --> 02:34:17,960
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And I still really like Marcus

2946
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:20,560
Speaker 1: Freeman a lot. I mean, they started out real bad,

2947
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:24,640
Speaker 1: but they improved, and clearly I think he improved along

2948
02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:27,040
Speaker 1: the way during the season. If Hartman can come in

2949
02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:29,520
Speaker 1: and add to that mixture, you're right. I think they

2950
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:32,360
Speaker 1: could be a very intriguing team and not somebody you

2951
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:34,400
Speaker 1: want to see in the back half of the season.

2952
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:39,160
Speaker 2: Playing Notre Dame again, playing in Week zero next week

2953
02:34:39,160 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 2: against Navy again. You're not picking Navy in any way,

2954
02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 2: shape or for I mean, it's a triple option team.

2955
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Speaker 2: It gets weird sometimes, but you're not You don't think, No,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I just I don't think Notre Dame's gonna

2957
02:34:53,280 --> 02:34:54,360
Speaker 2: drop this kind of game.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, and it's Week zero, and weird things happen

2959
02:34:57,560 --> 02:34:59,840
Speaker 1: early on in college football to a couple of different

2960
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:02,040
Speaker 1: team games. I just don't. I don't see Notre Dame

2961
02:35:02,080 --> 02:35:03,120
Speaker 1: being caught flat footed.

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02:35:03,920 --> 02:35:09,279
Speaker 2: Last year, USC in their opener under Lincoln Riley sixty

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02:35:09,520 --> 02:35:15,840
Speaker 2: six total points, two touchdown passes for Caleb Williams, four

2964
02:35:16,160 --> 02:35:18,840
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns, and oh, by the way, a couple defensive

2965
02:35:18,959 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 2: touchdowns as well. USC opens next week against San Jose

2966
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:26,880
Speaker 2: State on the PAC twelve network at eight eastern, five Pacific.

2967
02:35:27,400 --> 02:35:29,760
Speaker 2: Jason Martin will be giving us a play by play

2968
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:32,680
Speaker 2: because none of us get the PAC twelve network. Do

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02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:35,240
Speaker 2: they top the sixty six that they put up in

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Speaker 2: Week one last year?

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Speaker 1: Jason, Well, I can guarantee you Caleb Williams have more

2972
02:35:38,840 --> 02:35:42,320
Speaker 1: than two touchdowns, no question about that. I tend to

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02:35:42,320 --> 02:35:46,400
Speaker 1: think they might. I mean, it is Trojan Spartans. Oh,

2974
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:50,720
Speaker 1: but is San Jose State Spartans. Yeah? I think they're

2975
02:35:50,720 --> 02:35:53,000
Speaker 1: going to hit the seventy mark. I do I don't

2976
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:55,720
Speaker 1: see any reason to doubt it. I don't see San

2977
02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Jose State having much of an answer for them at all.

2978
02:35:58,240 --> 02:35:59,920
Speaker 1: If they want to just walk up and down the field.

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02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:02,320
Speaker 1: The only reason they won't do it is just because

2980
02:36:02,360 --> 02:36:04,960
Speaker 1: it'll be so over and so done that there'll be

2981
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:05,760
Speaker 1: no need.

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Speaker 2: First time pretty much. Ever, by the way, I think

2983
02:36:08,320 --> 02:36:11,480
Speaker 2: they win by a million. I think Caleb Williams plays well.

2984
02:36:11,920 --> 02:36:15,879
Speaker 2: I think they get him out early. Like I said

2985
02:36:15,920 --> 02:36:18,119
Speaker 2: a minute ago, that the front half of the schedule

2986
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:21,440
Speaker 2: is very manageable, So I don't think it's like a

2987
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:23,920
Speaker 2: It's not like it's like Alabama that in week two

2988
02:36:23,920 --> 02:36:27,200
Speaker 2: has Texas. But I think they cruise in this one.

2989
02:36:27,520 --> 02:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Only other Power five team playing next week. Jason in

2990
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:35,560
Speaker 2: your Hometown The Doors Vanderbilt commodorece maybe the first time

2991
02:36:35,600 --> 02:36:38,600
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's ever been mentioned on these airwaves, but they host

2992
02:36:38,680 --> 02:36:41,360
Speaker 2: to why He's seven thirty Eastern SEC Network. First of all,

2993
02:36:41,520 --> 02:36:43,240
Speaker 2: what's going on with the stadium? Are they playing at

2994
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:46,119
Speaker 2: a high school stadium this year? Is this something that's happening?

2995
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:46,879
Speaker 2: Did I miss this?

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02:36:47,800 --> 02:36:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look into it. I mean, there's

2997
02:36:50,160 --> 02:36:53,320
Speaker 1: there's something about this stadium that's been there and been

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02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:56,200
Speaker 1: talked about for such a long period of time around

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Speaker 1: the spot. I mean, it's it's it's been let's just

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02:36:59,800 --> 02:37:03,560
Speaker 1: say it's been discussed big time. There is construction, but

3001
02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:07,320
Speaker 1: it's Vanderbilt. I don't think that the locale and what

3002
02:37:07,360 --> 02:37:09,440
Speaker 1: they're doing is going to affect what they're gonna do

3003
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:14,400
Speaker 1: on the field. I think they will beat Hawaii and

3004
02:37:14,440 --> 02:37:16,200
Speaker 1: we'll see what they do this year. It's second year

3005
02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:20,600
Speaker 1: for Clarkly, what's it gonna look like. You know, they're

3006
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:24,120
Speaker 1: adding a video board here, they're doing some different things.

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Speaker 1: There is a playable field according to the Tennessee and

3008
02:37:27,560 --> 02:37:31,760
Speaker 1: here in Nashville they used it for a scrimmage. You know,

3009
02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:35,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot there. But the previous capacity was forty

3010
02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:38,280
Speaker 1: a little over forty. This one's twenty eight to five

3011
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:42,119
Speaker 1: for this year, which actually might be a better environment

3012
02:37:42,200 --> 02:37:45,000
Speaker 1: quite frankly, because it's gonna kind of put everybody closer.

3013
02:37:45,200 --> 02:37:46,800
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have all the empty seats in the

3014
02:37:46,840 --> 02:37:49,600
Speaker 1: empty space and things of that nature. So it's probably

3015
02:37:49,640 --> 02:37:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be okay, But it's Vanderbilt football.

3016
02:37:52,320 --> 02:37:55,640
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Like the high point's gonna

3017
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:57,520
Speaker 1: be five wins if things go really well.

3018
02:37:57,959 --> 02:38:01,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of wins, it's not off, then I'm gonna demand

3019
02:38:01,120 --> 02:38:06,240
Speaker 2: that you preview a preseason game. But on Monday Night Football,

3020
02:38:06,320 --> 02:38:10,080
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens are trying to win.

3021
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Their twee win this again, fifth.

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02:38:12,200 --> 02:38:16,200
Speaker 2: Straight, twenty five straight. That's unheard of. They're the two

3023
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:19,640
Speaker 2: thousand and eight New England Patriots of the preseason. Jason,

3024
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:23,400
Speaker 2: they never lose. Can they keep the streak going against

3025
02:38:23,440 --> 02:38:27,640
Speaker 2: the Commanders who obviously named Sam Howell? They're starting quarterback

3026
02:38:27,680 --> 02:38:30,040
Speaker 2: this week. Let me say this, Jason, really quick. I

3027
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:32,560
Speaker 2: am so happy that I missed the week where I

3028
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:35,720
Speaker 2: had to have an Eric b enemy take about well.

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02:38:35,840 --> 02:38:38,600
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera said this, but then he apologized that he

3030
02:38:38,680 --> 02:38:41,560
Speaker 2: meant that. Glad I missed that whole news cycle on

3031
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:43,640
Speaker 2: this show last week. I'm sure you had already covered it.

3032
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Do the Ravens win a twenty fifth straight preseason game

3033
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:50,520
Speaker 2: on Monday Night?

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02:38:55,040 --> 02:39:00,680
Speaker 1: No, Oh, Upset, It's gotta come to an end. Our

3035
02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:02,240
Speaker 1: nightmare has to come to an end.

3036
02:39:03,680 --> 02:39:05,879
Speaker 2: All great things must come to an end, including the

3037
02:39:05,879 --> 02:39:07,800
Speaker 2: greatest preseason streak ever. We got to get out of

3038
02:39:07,800 --> 02:39:09,640
Speaker 2: here one. Thank the crew. Chris Purfeed on the board,

3039
02:39:09,680 --> 02:39:12,440
Speaker 2: producer pat Steve De Saga from my partner Jason Martin.

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02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm here Torres. Make sure to download the podcast available

3041
02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:20,039
Speaker 2: as soon as the show is over wherever you get

3042
02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 2: your podcasts. Speaking of the show being over with us done,

3043
02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:28,160
Speaker 2: it's time for Bernie Fratto. He's next Fox Sports Radio.